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Battery Life Thread!

Hey guys. Battery life honestly, is the most important thing when owning a smartphone. Everyone gets different battery life apparently. Some are great!! Some are.. well..
Anyways, my whole point of making this thread is so that we can discuss our various battery lifes. See who has the best. Who has the worst. And why we have such differences! Maybe we can make solutions and we can all have great battery life.
Please include what ROM your running, what kernel, if your overclocked, and little things you might find suitable to add.
For example this is for me:
I'm running Acer liquid ROM 1.1 with pershoots latest .32 kernel. I can get maybe 8 hours out of my battery with extreme mild use. I'm currently trying to recalibrate my battery with the help of bongz ( thank you so much!) I have my screen usually dim, nothing syncing from what I know of, bluetooth never on, gps never on, wifi only at home.
Sent from my Rooted God-like HTC Vision running Liquid Metal.

I'm running GingerVillan 1.5.
Battery life on standby is great - probably around 1-2% an hour. However, when I start using the phone, that drains QUICK. Generally I get around 12-14 hours out of a full charge with mild usage, including Phone Calls, Texts, 1-2 rounds of Words with friends, etc. WiFi is always off, bluetooth is off, GPS on. Stock kernel, newest radio near as I remember. Facebook and Google are the only two accounts.
I previously had a Vibrant that seemingly got better life - with mild use I could easily get 18-20 hours. However, having a keyboard and working GPS is worth the charge every night. The G2 could have gotten a couple hundred more mAh battery, if you ask me.

im running cm7 nightlies
my battery life is pretty good when not on. maybe 1% every 2-3 hours when off and in my pocket(set to absolute minimum via setcpu). with mild to extreme use i get ok battery life of about 4 hrs (starting at 80% usualy). im overcloacked to 1.8ghz ut have it set via setcpu to max out at 1.1ghz. i have gps always off, wifi always off, brighness to auto, and bluetooth off.

themeltingclock said:
I'm running GingerVillan 1.5.
Battery life on standby is great - probably around 1-2% an hour. However, when I start using the phone, that drains QUICK. Generally I get around 12-14 hours out of a full charge with mild usage, including Phone Calls, Texts, 1-2 rounds of Words with friends, etc. WiFi is always off, bluetooth is off, GPS on. Stock kernel, newest radio near as I remember. Facebook and Google are the only two accounts.
I previously had a Vibrant that seemingly got better life - with mild use I could easily get 18-20 hours. However, having a keyboard and working GPS is worth the charge every night. The G2 could have gotten a couple hundred more mAh battery, if you ask me.
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Hm, I might consider upgrading radios. A lot of people are getting great battery life because of it.. will se.
I have never got more than 8 hours with my vision ever. Maybe because I have the old radio?
Sent from my Rooted God-like HTC Vision running Liquid Metal.

Hey,
I think there are too many variables at play here for this to be any use, but here is what I am running.
ROM: Virtuous 1.0.1, OCed to 1GHz using Virtuous Standard 2.1.2 Kernel
Radio: 12.18b.60.140eP_26.03.02.26_M
Build: 1.85
Brightness: Auto
Sync: Google, Facebook, Weather
Wifi: On at home, school; Off all other times
BT: OFF
Data: Always ON
Usage per day: 50-100 texts, 3-5 voice calls, 1-3hours of data/games
Current battery level including standby time and usage time is 57% after 6h 50m.
Good luck on the analysis!

stumpyz9 said:
im running cm7 nightlies
my battery life is pretty good when not on. maybe 1% every 2-3 hours when off and in my pocket(set to absolute minimum via setcpu). with mild to extreme use i get ok battery life of about 4 hrs (starting at 80% usualy). im overcloacked to 1.8ghz ut have it set via setcpu to max out at 1.1ghz. i have gps always off, wifi always off, brighness to auto, and bluetooth off.
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Your oc'd that high lol? WHY?
Sent from my Rooted God-like HTC Vision running Liquid Metal.

Sorry, but battery life threads/posts are always such a joke. So many things effect the battery life that it really isn't as easy as just posting your ROM and Kernel and call it a day. Every single setting in your settings menu, every app you run or have installed, screen on/awake time, BT/GPS/wifi/3g/4g connections, and even just general areas that you use your phone pertaining to their signal strength can effect what your battery life is. Unfortunately, there really is no way to figure out what the "best" battery lives are. It really takes your personal preferences and some of your own tinkering in order to get your configuration just right. You can go into any given custom ROM thread and find someone claiming 30hrs of battery life.
Sorry to be a downer. I (personally) just get really tired of people posting battery life screen shots because there are an extreme number of variables that affect it. I think it gives people false hope of looking to switch to a completely new ROM or change huge numbers of things and expecting to double their battery life.

martonikaj said:
Sorry, but battery life threads/posts are always such a joke. So many things effect the battery life that it really isn't as easy as just posting your ROM and Kernel and call it a day. Every single setting in your settings menu, every app you run or have installed, screen on/awake time, BT/GPS/wifi/3g/4g connections, and even just general areas that you use your phone pertaining to their signal strength can effect what your battery life is. Unfortunately, there really is no way to figure out what the "best" battery lives are. It really takes your personal preferences and some of your own tinkering in order to get your configuration just right. You can go into any given custom ROM thread and find someone claiming 30hrs of battery life.
Sorry to be a downer. I (personally) just get really tired of people posting battery life screen shots because there are an extreme number of variables that affect it. I think it gives people false hope of looking to switch to a completely new ROM or change huge numbers of things and expecting to double their battery life.
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Well said and true that.

CM7 nightlies, new radio (forget which one), after 19 hours still at 74%. Mild usage, few texts, twitter, email, updating apps, etc. And I always use wifi whenever possible, and then edge only when I'm out or not in a wifi area.

cm7 latest nightly #14 , latest radio , pershoot's kernel i can go 4,5 hours screen time on , no problem with constant edge connection on..extremely happy..
oh.. oc @ 1ghz no profiles

quierotacobell said:
CM7 nightlies, new radio (forget which one), after 19 hours still at 74%. Mild usage, few texts, twitter, email, updating apps, etc. And I always use wifi whenever possible, and then edge only when I'm out or not in a wifi area.
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Can you go to about phone and check your radio?
Fellas hear this, with 2G constantly on only, the radio is using 47 percent of the battery. Do you guys find this normal at ALL? I'm running CM7 now with latest pershoot kernel and this damned .27 Radio which I am seriously considering removing for good.
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Shaquiel Harris said:
Can you go to about phone and check your radio?
Fellas hear this, with 2G constantly on only, the radio is using 47 percent of the battery. Do you guys find this normal at ALL? I'm running CM7 now with latest pershoot kernel and this damned .27 Radio which I am seriously considering removing for good.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA Premium App
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12.28h.60.140fU_26.06.02.27_M
It's that Hutch one from Australia or something. This one here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959488

I just noticed that the battery life of my DesireZ is greatly dependant on where I am.... I have vacation now and I was mostly at home for the past three days the battery was still about 40% charged this morning so after 2 full days with moderate use, reading an Ebook, playing a game, wifi constantly on, exchange mail on Push and Gmail on push, with standard rom.
when I am at school the battery is often almost empty at about 5 pm...
maybe because of the bad coverage at school?

I don't know if anyone else really noticed, I seen it mentioned in another thread but not enough, if you don't use the wifi calling app, DELETE IT! I have noticed much better performance and battery life after getting of that ****
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Can some one tell me their usage with 4g on all day and moderate use?
Ive begun to get lazy turning 4g off so lately im getting 10-14 hours usage before the battery is dead not using wifi at all ( work days no wifi at work). moderate use maybe 20 mins calling 20-30 text up to 45 min facebooking. nothing too much,
On nightly #29 no pershoot since i am lazy to update to newest nightly and newest pershoot only works after #30 and overclocked to 1.2ghz

I still don't get why people care about battery so much with g2. I got 2 extra battery and an external wall charger all for 10 bucks on ebay. why not use android to its full potential without ever worrying about battery for $10?

westchester1940 said:
I still don't get why people care about battery so much with g2. I got 2 extra battery and an external wall charger all for 10 bucks on ebay. why not use android to its full potential without ever worrying about battery for $10?
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It's a hassle to take off the case (in my case an Otterbox) every time to swap the battery out. Added with the looser hinge, you might accidentally snap something that you don't want to. Would rather have one big battery than multiple smaller ones.

Understood. I don't ever use protection covers. Didnt even know tHere are the kind of cases not interfering with keyboard pullout...
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I want the Mugen battery, my G2 has been quite crap battery life for the past while, I wonder how much this one will help

No complaints here.
Just thought I would throw down my stats as well:
I can usually eke out a good two or three days from my G2. Some things of note: I'm on Wi-Fi with UMA at home, T-Mobile's home network (EDGE) when I'm in the town in which I live, but as soon as I leave town and head towards my place of work, I roam on EDGE all night (with roaming data always turned on) until I get back home. I don't think I've even seen the 3G or H indicators light up on this thing. Got to love the rural life. I leave Wi-Fi always on, in case I find new networks, I leave GPS always enabled, since it really only activates on Google's home page anyways, I use the 30% brightness setting that is the default 'low' setting via the HTC brightness widget, and Auto-Sync is always enabled (Facebook, HTC (weather once per hour), Google). I use the default 1 minute screen timeout, and I use the lockscreen that comes with Poweramp (which I use to listen to music on my drive to and from work via an FM transmitter.)
The capture below shows 2d 14h 2m 30s since being unplugged, at 7% remaining. I use Virtuous 1.0.1 with the stock HTC kernel and the stock T-MoUS radio. I am also using the stock HTC battery that the phone shipped with. I don't feel the need to overclock, as my last phone was a BB Pearl, so this thing is light years faster already.
The only time I really eat up my battery is when I play Wordsmith, because I'm always staring at the lit screen trying to make fancy words.
And while you're right, there are way too many variables when it comes to battery life and usage and signal strength and what have you, it amazes me just the same that others are fine with 8 hours of battery life and choose to carry around extra batteries. Sure, you have a mobile Linux box in your pocket (awesome!), but that's also why I keep a desktop PC at home. To each their own, though, no harm no foul.
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Android OS battery usage shenanigans (Yes again)

So I've played a bit of Sherlock Holmes over the last 2 days trying to monitor the AOS bug and how exactly it affects everybody.
First of all let's start with a graph:
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First of all we can divide the whole time-line in 3 parts:
T1) From beginning to the second bar of phone usage
T2) From T1 to the infliction point
T3) From T2 to the end
In T1 I had the phone as such as I always had it for several days and nothing special to report there, AOS was taking up up to 3h of CPU time during that 9h period.
Between T1 and T2, I upgraded ROM from Cognition 1.20 to 1.30, and left home (You can see where Wifi is not on) and got back several hours later. Now this is the most important part as what I've noticed over times and times again, the AOS bug doesn't come up when there is no Wifi or Internet connectivity, fine and dandy as long as I'm not home (I also had no 3G for that period), as expected. AOS gains just 1-2 max. minutes per hour in terms of CPU time. At the middle of T2 I get back home, turn on Wifi and so on.
Now what blows me away is that AOS continues to just use little CPU time for about 7 hours at which I'm home. Everything works fine, I have not changed anything to grant any difference in usage.
Now sometime in the night I use check on the battery again, as I've done over time the whole day to keep an eye on the usage, and this time, AOS goes nuts as you can see in the drop in battery level after that "infliction" point. AOS was at a little over 4 hours and something at that point, and one hour later it was basically at 5 hours. I said **** it and went to bed.
After waking up and noticing my battery level dropped about 15%, I checked up on AOS and what do you know, it's at 7-8h CPU time now.
In the morning I chatted for a bit and some light browsing, I let it plugged in for a bit and that was it. At the end of the graph AOS is at 9 hours of CPU time.
To the point:
The Android OS drain is real and kicking, and it makes no sense what so ever. There is no correlation to the usage of the phone. I found no correlation to the applications I'm using. Apparently there's not even a correlation to if you have Wifi on or not, since it worked fine for me for a while.
And its effect on battery usage is also pretty much real: As you can see I marked the average drain curves over the 3 periods and you can see clearly the similarity in usage between when the AOS bug is alive and when not, a 26° curve vs. a 16° curve. So what it means that flat-line idle usage is increased 40% by this one bug only. [And before anybody tries to reply on the degree of the curves, it's only relative to my usage in the screen-shot and irrelevant for anybody else.]
I even plotted a curve over the whole time too see what it would have been if AOS usage were to be sane. Result: At the end I'd be somewhere around 60-55% instead of the 25% I am now. Of course what I did is not accurate at all but even if I'm as much as 10% off it's still a huge difference and you can see the point.
Some remaining remarks:
People say it does not matter that if your phone is idling or not being much in use, having a high AOS % is normal since it needs to sum up to 100% and that's why it happens. Get your head out of your asses and think for a moment. Firstly, of course does AOS % go down when you're heavily using the phone, because when you're actually using the phone you're using more power than AOS would ever be capable of draining when it's in Deep Sleep. Secondly, when idle and in Deep Sleep, nothing other than Phone Idle, Cell Standby, Wifi, and Android System (Under which everything that runs in the background is packed) should be using anything. A percentage is calculated from absolute values, and when it's high, its not for nothing.
As for what I'm actually running on the phone: Nothing other than Skype and Trillian, and I've already checked that those have no effect on AOS usage at all. I have no widgets other than the clock in the lock-screen. I removed all of the Samsung apps and most of the services. I have no push email or anything related running. I disabled all syncing. If I would go even more bare than now I'd be losing usability. I've tested this with a dozen different Kernels and ROMs and it's not related to any of those. (SpeedMod Kernel makes AOS not appear anymore because I believe it disables the monitoring capability of the system to actually record the usage, battery life does not change, but I've yet to do a extended test so don't take my word on it)
Well that's all for it now. I just wanted to do this rant since I felt like throwing the phone against the wall last night when it suddenly ate up 5% battery inside of an hour. So annoying when everything else in the phone is perfect.

First, that's a fantastic bit of predictive analysis you worked up. I'm guessing you do a lot of number crunching in your day job.
I posted the following in another battery life thread. I'll post it here too. Do you disagree with my theory about the lack of a common denominator pretty much guaranteeing there will be no common solution?
Consider this:
1) Every phone leaves the factory configured exactly the same way.
2) People connect to different carriers ranging from large/advanced to small/outdated.
3) People use different routers to connect to Wi-Fi and spend varying amounts of time connected.
4) People use stock ROM's and cooked ROM's
5) Some people use CPU tools, memory managers, task killers, battery monitors, and some don't.
6) People use different e-mail clients, e-mail providers, different sync settings and send/receive different volumes of e-mail.
7) People use social apps differently with different sync settings.
8) No two phones have the exact same set of apps loaded on them.
9) People use their phones differently with different amounts of talk time, display time-on, CPU usage, and downloading time.
10) People use different SD cards.
Now, with all of that said, you tell me how any discussion on this forum is going to come up with a single "Holy Grail" solution to better battery life? If there's no common problem how on earth can there be a common solution? If everyone on the forum was getting ****ty battery life I'd say there's a chance of a common issue. That's not the case. And the never ending circuitous conversations about battery life that take place are inane because there is no common base to build a meaningful discussion on.

Funny my AOS never had to go greater than 10%, checked with my neighbour too. we got the same phone on the same day.

BarryH_GEG said:
First, that's a fantastic bit of predictive analysis you worked up. I'm guessing you do a lot of number crunching in your day job.
I posted the following in another battery life thread. I'll post it here too. Do you disagree with my theory about the lack of a common denominator pretty much guaranteeing there will be no common solution?
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Now, with all of that said, you tell me how any discussion on this forum is going to come up with a single "Holy Grail" solution to better battery life? If there's no common problem how on earth can there be a common solution? If everyone on the forum was getting ****ty battery life I'd say there's a chance of a common issue. That's not the case. And the never ending circuitous conversations about battery life that take place are inane because there is no common base to build a meaningful discussion on.
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Well I don't know the context of that post you wrote but you're diversifying the problem too much if you bring up all those points. My point and this thread is about the lone AOS eating up battery life and having such an impact. That's why I had almost nothing else running on the phone as to try to isolate it as much as possible and actually bringing up the common denominator.
For me half of those points don't even matter, and at the end of the day the most-common denominator is a) Gingerbread b) Samsung drivers. I'm pretty new to the Android ecosystem as I didn't have any before my SGS2, so I don't know that much about other phones but one buddy of mine has a Desire HD and has the same problem with high AOS usage, so that logically would mean it's a Gingerbread issue. I have not heard of it on anything running Froyo or earlier.
Fact is people who post on those threads about battery life and having AOS showing up at such a high percentage, yet accept it and even say it has amazing battery life are disillusioned as it could be even much better if this one thing alone were to disappear and go away. Anything else using up battery in your list is what I would call actual usage of battery life, as all those things listed have some kind of measurable effect in usability and bring something to the table, as opposed to this, and that's why we call it drain or waste of battery.
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Funny my AOS never had to go greater than 10%, checked with my neighbour too. we got the same phone on the same day.
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Exactly people like you is what blow my mind. What I've noticed that when not using Wifi or 3G (And after my testing I'm not so sure about 3G anymore) the AOS usage is very low, so maybe you're falling into that category of people?

Thanks to the first 2 posters for their analysis in particular the OP,i think most people who on here who have a GS2 share your frustration, i have noticed that the leaked 2.3.4 update which was said to solve the AOS problem has failed to do so, well not exactly the AOS has gone down slightly but is certainly still a big issue for lots of people.
Like the OP ive tried to do some tests and try out various things but im still as much in the dark about what really causes this excessive battery drain,i too run Cognition ROM but it appears every ROM whether it be stock or custom suffers from this AOS drainage, ive not come across many who haven't experienced some sort of excessive drain with AOS.
I am going to look into this Kernel that the OP mentioned and give it a go, nothing to lose, wasn't there a big thread on this forum relating to AOS too, hopefully someone will come up with a viable solution sooner rather than later so we can all have better battery life on our GS2.

vaust said:
Funny my AOS never had to go greater than 10%, checked with my neighbour too. we got the same phone on the same day.
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same here mine is 4%, 12m OS time out of 10hrs battery

AndreiLux said:
Exactly people like you is what blow my mind. What I've noticed that when not using Wifi or 3G (And after my testing I'm not so sure about 3G anymore) the AOS usage is very low, so maybe you're falling into that category of people?
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I'm another one of them, although I think in my case it may be because my usage of the phone is so high the Android OS is mostly hidden under the overwhelming weight of Display

Logi_Ca1 said:
I'm another one of them, although I think in my case it may be because my usage of the phone is so high the Android OS is mostly hidden under the overwhelming weight of Display
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That's why we need to stop using % to compare it and actually share the CPU runtime of the package, so in that way we can actually compare apples to apples. And it would be helpful to know how you've been using your connectivity in relation to that, as again, I repeat myself, it doesn't seem to happen when not connected to anything.

Thank you for the anaylsis. My findings mirror your own. Android OS bug runs rampant on wifi. However, on 3G or HSDPA, it inflicts much less damage, so I keep the phone on 3G or nodata mode unless I want to download something big.
What's sad is, I have tried every kernel, every ROM here, including truly alternative things like Cyanogen nightlies. This bug is always there. So I think it lies in Samsung's drivers package, which is common on every kernel. Until Samsung rewrites the drivers, especially the WiFi driver, we'll never get rid of this.

Disgrace
The fact is AOS bug is there, all time, sometime it's very prominent and sometimes not, doesn't really matter if there is any connectivity or not. Versatile bug to a versatile OS I guess. Don't like it.
Regards.

This bug is getting really frustrating so I wouldn't mind ranting a bit about it.
This is my battery stats yesterday and the only thing I did was a couple of minutes of web browsing. (I'm using stock GB 2.3.3 KE7)

Not sure what to make of mine, i cant really tell if i have the bug or not

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Not sure what to make of mine, i cant really tell if i have the bug or not
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You don't. 12m over 10h30 and with Wifi on all the time is excellent...
Can you please share what you did to your ROM / versions and what settings you are using?

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You don't. 12m over 10h30 and with Wifi on all the time is excellent...
Can you please share what you did to your ROM / versions and what settings you are using?
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Villain 2.1 (kg2 base), Ninphetamine-2.0.1 kernel, kg3 modem.

Well, from my testing Android OS bug is most likely related to wi-fi, at least on my phone. The whole story is this. Used my phone for about 3 weeks without ever connecting to a wi-fi network. Everything was fine Android OS never showed more than 7 % up to 10 %, phone being idle or in constant usage. Connected to the same wi-fi network for about 2 weeks Android OS stayed the same, nothing unusual. Finally arrived to my home place and connected my phone to my personal wi-fi router and fun began, Android OS started reaching even 50 % while being idle and up to 25 % when using the phone. So in my opinion it must be related to routers' brand/class. I gotta mention i had the same apps installed in my phone for the whole time, stock android 2.3.3, no root. That's my story. Believe it or not , it's up to you. It might be related to tons of other things, but that's my personal experience.

Sp1tfire said:
Well, from my testing Android OS bug is most likely related to wi-fi, at least on my phone. The whole story is this. Used my phone for about 3 weeks without ever connecting to a wi-fi network. Everything was fine Android OS never showed more than 7 % up to 10 %, phone being idle or in constant usage. Connected to the same wi-fi network for about 2 weeks Android OS stayed the same, nothing unusual. Finally arrived to my home place and connected my phone to my personal wi-fi router and fun began, Android OS started reaching even 50 % while being idle and up to 25 % when using the phone. So in my opinion it must be related to routers' brand/class. I gotta mention i had the same apps installed in my phone for the whole time, stock android 2.3.3, no root. That's my story. Believe it or not , it's up to you. It might be related to tons of other things, but that's my personal experience.
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I just tried this via tethering my router via my laptop and using that as the access point via Connectify. Didn't change anything.

AndreiLux said:
I just tried this via tethering my router via my laptop and using that as the access point via Connectify. Didn't change anything.
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Wish i knew what kind of router was used in the wi-fi connection that i connected to first time. Obviously Android OS went nuts after connecting to my personal router. Will try and see how the phone runs when i connect to the router at my office, cause it's a different brand. The only difference i can think of is on the first wi-fi network i was connecting 3-4 hours a day, while at home i'm always connected to my router, 12 hours a day average. Wonder if Android OS would decrease % if i use wi-fi connection less.

Even when it is the router - it could be fixed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15968355&postcount=1286
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Great study. I would like to add that the Android OS process could be including anything non-app related. So if you have the market doing a background check to see if the apps are updated, then that could be showing under Android OS since the actual market app itself is not running. Same goes for your mail apps etc. I suspect that as long as there is background sync or notifications happening without the app in question running, then Android OS goes up.
Here is mine from last night before bed until now (10:19am). Running stock KG3 2.3.4 with CF-Root KG3 kernel. Don't mind the battery spikes and drops, I just cleared the battery stats last night.

Here's mine.
It was used heavily from 1 am to 3 am, with Dolphin HD and music playback. Then I was asleep from 3 am to 11 am, with the app "Sleep like a droid" on. It's an app that monitors your movement using the accelerometer to determine what phase of sleep you are in and thus the best time for the alarm to sound.
Wi-fi is on all the way.
Not sure if I suffer from the bug. AOS usage is little over 12%, although CPU time itself seems to be low.
ROM: Lite'ning 4.1
Kernel: Ninphetamine-2.0.2
Hope this helps!

About the battery consumption

Hello, I am a happy owner of the DHD.
It 'a great phone, but as you know, the only drawback is battery life.
I've tried several (few) ROM so far, and one with which I am slightly better is the RCMIX.
Now with this post does not go into details about what set, how to optimize (Sync off, energy saving displays, etc. ...) but I ask all your experience based on the ROM that you have installed:
1 - how to use the terminal?
2 - how long you last on a full charge and use it to do?
3 - What kind of ROM you use?
Thanks to all. I think it will be useful for someone like me, prefer a long battery life rather than three thousand graphicals functions

cubases said:
1 - how to use the terminal?
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what !?!? which terminal do u mean ?
cubases said:
2 - how long you last on a full charge and use it to do?
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With normal usage (some SMS, about 30 minutes surfing and emailing during the day, 30 minutes music listening and wifi turned on all day) my Phone lives mostly a full working day. When i come home from work (mostly 8 to 9 hours) i still have 20 % left...
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3 - What kind of ROM you use?
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I'm using RCmix3D Runny 1.3 with Revolution Theme . My phone is overclocked with setCPU to 1,45GHz and the Batterylife is optimized with a good profile set from setCPU (downclocking when display is off...and so on...)

m0rbus said:
what !?!? which terminal do u mean ?
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Sorry... it mean: phone.... smartphone

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Batterylife is optimized with a good profile set from setCPU
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sorry but.. batterylife is an app?

Battery life... it's been quite heavily documented on the DHD fora, but here we go:
1500mah is not enough for a huge screen, especially if you want to use the phone's capabilities. The versatility of this phone means you'll want to be browsing, doing emails, playing processor heavy games etc. Each to his own
So, limit the stuff you sync (mail/facebook, news, weather), or at least reduce the frequency. These things cause "partial wake locks", which stop the phone falling into a deep sleep, after which battery consumption is minimal. Watch out for wifi settings too. Search for BetterBatteryStats (by chamonix) on the Android Apps section of the xda forum for much more detail, and tips.
You should be able to get to the end of the day with a good ROM (eg Leedroid/Revolution - they are very popular, but the threads are immense, which makes looking for information difficult). These ROMs have over/underclocking built in (governors), and you can also undervolt (theoretically reduces consumption too).
Limit transitions, be reasonable with screen brightness etc.
And if all else fails, and you use the phone intensively and can't get to the end of the day, you could invest in a power pack (search Amazon for the New Trent 5000mah power pack, which costs less than €30)

my DHD lasts around 4 hrs continuous screen on, much longer screen off. IMO, LM based roms have the best battery life.
But you could always get cheap $3 batteries for the Desire HD off ebay.

Battery life on my DHD was very bad before i rooted it. I am now running RCMix3D Runny V1.3 and my battery has lasted over 30 hours with alot of use.

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sorry but.. batterylife is an app?
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lol no....Battery life means how long the battery lasts... thats all. No app.

whistle81 said:
Battery life on my DHD was very bad before i rooted it. I am now running RCMix3D Runny V1.3 and my battery has lasted over 30 hours with alot of use.
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indeed! I can not believe it!... with a lot of use....????!!!!!!!
Your kernel? Radio? Ril?

with m0rbus called "normal usage" my phone lasts around 48h. using my rom and lordmod 7.2 cfs and my personal governor/undervolt settings.
edit: though this result is not really specific to MY miui rom. one should be able to achieve these results with that kernel and settings on every aosp rom.
edit2: with "my normal usage" it last around 24-30h. this includes gameing, emailing, testing settings for developing my rom, rebooting etc.

I've used alot of roms most of the sense ones seem to use about the same battery life better than stock (they get me through work stock needed charged at lunch) but for a week now I've been using miui I've been home about an hour played about 15 min of angry birds, watched a few min on youtube and surfed on xda for a bit and I just over 40% i think that's pretty good going.
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cubases said:
Hello, I am a happy owner of the DHD.
It 'a great phone, but as you know, the only drawback is battery life.
I've tried several (few) ROM so far, and one with which I am slightly better is the RCMIX.
Now with this post does not go into details about what set, how to optimize (Sync off, energy saving displays, etc. ...) but I ask all your experience based on the ROM that you have installed:
1 - how to use the terminal?
2 - how long you last on a full charge and use it to do?
3 - What kind of ROM you use?
Thanks to all. I think it will be useful for someone like me, prefer a long battery life rather than three thousand graphicals functions
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Hi, I upgrade the ROM from the group Android Revolution, and my internet I put on 2G and work with WI-FI, GPS and SYNC ON. My battery life is working about 1,5 day.
Before I upgrade I use a Super-Wire patch from ARHD, I think this patch get this performace.
PS.: Sorry My English. I´m Brazilian.

I dunno guys.. I think all that is your subjective feeling and that ROM has no effect whatsoever on battery. Maybe small, but unnoticable. You never do things exactly the same or have battery charged exactly the same. In order to prove ROM has effect on battery usage you would have to make lab tests, i.e. make conditions the same. Moreover, if you look at the statistics of battery usage, it is clear that the most battery goes on SCREEN. And then GPS. Everything else is just a couple of %. All the talk of turning off wifi/3G to conserve power is simply not true. Just look at the statistics! Wifi takes like 2-3% of the power used, tops! The screen with it's 40%-70% is the problem, and there is no way to reduce that...

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The screen with it's 40%-70% is the problem, and there is no way to reduce that...
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exactly....

You could always try to lower auto brightness levels by way of a flashable patch. I found that after doing this the screen was only using between 30-40% of the battery. Even so, it is the screen that always uses the majority of the battery. All the tips regarding decreasing battery by switching off syncing, wifi, widgets, etc are in my opinion a bit misleading. If you have a good radio and corresponding RIL then this will vastly reduce battery consumption whilst still being able to sync emails, widgets, etc with the wifi on. I recommend Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 and it's matching HTC-RIL 2.2.0160HM. I'm currently on Orange in the UK and this combo works best for me across several different ROMs.

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You could always try to lower auto brightness levels by way of a flashable patch.
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where could I found it?
If you have a good radio and corresponding RIL then this will vastly reduce battery consumption whilst still being able to sync emails, widgets, etc with the wifi on. I recommend Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 and it's matching HTC-RIL 2.2.0160HM. I'm currently on Orange in the UK and this combo works best for me across several different ROMs.
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I have the same your radio/ril.

cubases said:
where could I found it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034743
Also, dependant on what ROM you're using you might find it within the development section post relating to your ROM. I'm using Virtuous Unity 2.37 and within the post there's a flashable lower auto brightness patch.
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I dunno guys.. I think all that is your subjective feeling and that ROM has no effect whatsoever on battery. Maybe small, but unnoticable. You never do things exactly the same or have battery charged exactly the same. In order to prove ROM has effect on battery usage you would have to make lab tests, i.e. make conditions the same. Moreover, if you look at the statistics of battery usage, it is clear that the most battery goes on SCREEN. And then GPS. Everything else is just a couple of %. All the talk of turning off wifi/3G to conserve power is simply not true. Just look at the statistics! Wifi takes like 2-3% of the power used, tops! The screen with it's 40%-70% is the problem, and there is no way to reduce that...
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Yes and no.
If you are using the device, you can limit transitions, underclock the processor (via a custom ROM), flash a patch to modify the brightness as mentioned below. That definitely will help reduce consumption while in use.
However, and this is not collected in the Battery Usage option in Settings, Partial Wakelocks are the main contributor to battery consumption. When the phone is inactive, it should be asleep as much as possible - applications like Phone, Mail, Latitude, alarms etc wake it up for either scheduled or ad-hoc events. If you install BetterBatteryStats you will see which processes are keeping your phone awake & hence in a higher state of battery consumption.
Oh, do NOT buy cheap ebay batteries. They lie about their capacity. The only battery which offers more capacity than the OEM one, is Mugen (search in the Accessories forum), it's 1500mah. That extra power could make the difference in making it to the end of the day, but it costs about $45 I think.

You think this behaviour is normal?
Keep in mind that my DHD are this morning on the deck, and only hotspot is active (with whom I connect from the notebook) and sync only 2 emails to connect every 15 minutes each
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Probably do you think may be due to the fact that until now has always been on the deck in charge?

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...Partial Wakelocks are the main contributor to battery consumption. When the phone is inactive, it should be asleep as much as possible - applications like Phone, Mail, Latitude, alarms etc wake it up for either scheduled or ad-hoc events.
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If I charge the phone before going to sleep to 100% and leave it on, in the morning the battery it at like 60-70% which IMHO is really too much. I have sync set to between 1-2 hour intervals depending on service, but over night I set phone data to OFF so it shouldn't matter, should it? Then why such consumption? I understand it over the day when I use it, but at night the display is off, data is off so what could cause this? It can't be syncing since the data is off....

Idle Battery Drain

So I was posting some info in another thread but I figured I would make my own thread for it. It seems like the power consumption at idle might be the cause for the "not as good as expected" battery life. For example my G3 will sit off the charger for 4 hours without being used and still be at 100%, the Turbo loses 6% in that time. The G3 has a 3000mAH Battery and I could easily get 24h of off the charger time on the G3. My question is what is killing the battery on the Turbo??? Its kinda hard to look over the battery stats when there is no root. Anyone have any input?

I think it's because of the wifi. I too have experienced crazy idle drain compared to my G2 and it's really making me regret getting this phone. It seems like they just slapped the kitkat ROM together and didn't really care to test it very well because Lollipop is coming out so soon.

It's definitely draining at idle more than usual or should be, I agree. I don't think it is WiFi related though, or at least not enough to be the main problem. I could be wrong of course. I have also not experience any WiFi or Bluetooth issues whatsoever and I use a Moto 360 all day, every day.
I am currently on my 4th charge cycle since acquiring the 64GB BN model. It's been powered on for 7h 32m and I'm sitting at 78% with 1hr 18m SoT. That's with heavy usage and taking quite a bit of pictures & video during this mornings product demo presentations at work.
Hardly anything for me personally to complain about. I'm sure they will optimize it. I'm almost certain than Android L 5.0 will make this phone a true beast.
Time will tell.

are you leaving gps or high accuracy location settings on?

I have the same issue as the OP. My G3 lost very little battery life when idling. I've attempted shutting down email accounts, turning off location and selectively removing apps in hopes of determining the cause of the drain...without success. This could be a deal breaker if we don't get some type of root exploit soon.

Well this sucks. I was going to get the Turbo but now I'm going to wait and see what happens with this drain issue. Maybe 5.0 will fix it.

I have been using the same settings that I did on my G3, Auto brightness, Location OFF and Auto Sync. Glad I'm not the only one noticing it too, I think its all in the build of Kit Kat they put on this phone, hopefully L comes out soon.

timjp692 said:
So I was posting some info in another thread but I figured I would make my own thread for it. It seems like the power consumption at idle might be the cause for the "not as good as expected" battery life. For example my G3 will sit off the charger for 4 hours without being used and still be at 100%, the Turbo loses 6% in that time. The G3 has a 3000mAH Battery and I could easily get 24h of off the charger time on the G3. My question is what is killing the battery on the Turbo??? Its kinda hard to look over the battery stats when there is no root. Anyone have any input?
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How about you start by posting screenshots of your battery stats from System...Battery
I don't have any issues whatsoever.

Well once I figure out how to do that I will post it, but in the mean time what phone were you coming from? A few people have agreed in this post that the battery life is worse @ idle then the G3 so its not just me.
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Well once I figure out how to do that I will post it, but in the mean time what phone were you coming from? A few people have agreed in this post that the battery life is worse @ idle then the G3 so its not just me.
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Well G3 could be out of box, not trying to argue wanted to understand what your problem was. If you press the graph you'll see more details on what is using batteries (awake vs screen on, cell signal etc) and more in Android System if you go into that screen.
Overall what your getting .. 1-2% is not a big deal to me and beauty of the massive battery is you don't have to worry about but if really wanted to you could improve by turning off stuff you don't need or even automating it.
FWIW I'm coming from a GS3 with a tiny battery but even that phone lasted 5 days idling with the right setting for my use case (cell radio off / WiFi on). With Turbo just disabled some apps I didn't need and don't even think about it any more. I do have complaints about the Turbo but battery is definitely not one of them.

I'm interested in this as well. I bought my turbo yesterday evening and it had a pretty good charge (>80%) out of the box. I played with it for much of the evening and copied ~8gb of data to the phone via wifi. When I went to bed battery was at 60%, when I woke up it was 46%. I noticed that my third biggest battery use is command center, so I disabled auto-location in that app. I'm hoping to have better results on my first full charge.

Yeah I agree, but its literally the same settings I ran of my G3. I think I'm just gonna return it between the weak wifi and cell signal, and the camera it's just not worth it if the battery life isn't better then my G3

I've been posting in the other battery life thread... but to summarize, I'm going to be doing some thorough testing over the next 24/48 hours (currently ongoing).
I have already noticed significant improvements in my battery life. Has mentioned in the other thread. I'll be making a detailed post on Friday evening with my results.
I may also, from time to time post some of my progress, as I already have an understanding as to one of the issues involved with the so called "idle drain" everyone is referring to, and it is NOT WiFi.
Keep your eyes on that thread here.

Thanks, I'm pretty good with understanding wake locks, I just don't know where to start without root since most the stats in BB require it. I'm intrested to see what you come up with. I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.

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I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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Is there a hard date for the nexus?
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Andromjb said:
I've been posting in the other battery life thread... but to summarize, I'm going to be doing some thorough testing over the next 24/48 hours (currently ongoing).
I have already noticed significant improvements in my battery life. Has mentioned in the other thread. I'll be making a detailed post on Friday evening with my results.
I may also, from time to time post some of my progress, as I already have an understanding as to one of the issues involved with the so called "idle drain" everyone is referring to.
Keep your eyes on that thread here.
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Very interested in what you come up with, thanks!

timjp692 said:
Thanks, I'm pretty good with understanding wake locks, I just don't know where to start without root since most the stats in BB require it. I'm intrested to see what you come up with. I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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Well you are limited with what you can do but I already gave you a start in my post, maybe you missed it. The only insight you will have without root (for tools like Better Battery Stats) is looking into all the info you can get out of Settings..Battery. There you can see wake locks vs screen on time and other stats like cell signal / wifi status etc. Then you can also dive into your biggest usage, for you it looks like it is Android System. They will list system services that are classified here. For example, you'll see the moto features are part of this. If you don't want to dig you can wait for Andromjb's updates
Overall I wouldn't base your decision to return the Turbo based on the battery -- base it on your other problems it sounds like you're having with wifi signal etc. That sounds like reason enough for a return. If you're ok with the larger size of the Nexus 6 then to me it's a no brainer to go with that instead of Droid Turbo since they are almost identical in terms of hardware.

For those that are getting battery drain, did you disable all of the verizon apps? There are some 20+ apps that are constantly running in the background and will drain your battery(even after i did a factory reset, these apps were sending data despite me never having opened them). Disable those, restart, then see if things change over the next cycle. I got 2d9hr31m and 4hr23 min of SOT(minimal usage) and was at 13%; this was on the first charge.

Could this drain be due to some of the sensors used for notifications. Doesn't the turbo have the feature where you stick your hand over it and it shows the notifications? If this is the case, wouldn't those sensors have to stay on?

Yeah I have 27 apps disabled and it really didn't make a difference for me like it has in the past, their must be something killing the battery on this 30m of screen time and I'm at 79% shouldn't be happening.

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Yeah I have 27 apps disabled and it really didn't make a difference for me like it has in the past, their must be something killing the battery on this 30m of screen time and I'm at 79% shouldn't be happening.
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Thats actually really interesting. I haven't been experiencing anything like that. Perhaps try doing a factory reset then disabling them again. That's the only thing I did differently. Perhaps it's just a bad device? I'm already at 2hrs screen time, heavy downloading(off line apps), and have been on battery for 1d8hr- still at 45%. Is there anything in the battery stats? Wake locks perhaps?

Everyone roll your eyes: another battery question.

So, it seems like my battery isn't quite behaving itself. I've turned of Moto Display, underclock GPU to 300mhz, and switched to 1080p instead of 1440p, used Amplify to control wakelocks and Greenify to hibernate things that like to run in the background. I have never gotten more than about 1hr30min of screen time. My phone stays relatively cool unless I'm playing a lot of games or watching a lot of videos on YouTube. I have a handful of xposed plugins (Amplify, GravityBox, Greenify, NougatNavigation Bar (I like the solid icons rather than the lines that comes with stock N) and Status Bar Cleanup).
Anyone think I should get a new battery? Not under warranty, so I can't do anything via that route.
Also, is eBay a good enough place to find a replacement battery as long as I make sure it's not a counterfeit?
Thanks everyone for any help.

Can you be more specific what you mean by your battery not behaving itself? Random shut down or at any particular battery level? Sudden drop off battery percentage ofb10% or more shortly after charger disconnect? Has the unusual battery occurred after any specific updates to any of your apps? Have you tried a factory reset (I know it's painful but it does help on occasion)? Just throwing it out there.

Moppusan said:
So, it seems like my battery isn't quite behaving itself. I've turned of Moto Display, underclock GPU to 300mhz, and switched to 1080p instead of 1440p,
It doesn't make difference - restore default,
used Amplify to control wakelocks and Greenify to hibernate things that like to run in the background.
Doesn't work good on Nougat - you can use "background permission setter" app & "link2sd" for disable some apps
I have never gotten more than about 1hr30min of screen
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Standard is ~3-4 hours of SOT with any rom or kernel.
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Look into this thread:
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Standard is ~3-4 hours of SOT with any rom or kernel.
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I rarely ever got 3 hours... GSAM's average SOT over time was about 2h 20m... Although I did have occasional instances with 4 hours (on WiFi, reading, at night, very low drainage usage). Not really the point though
Should you replace the battery, well, from what you say it sounds like it is due... The real problem is getting a quality replacement. You can find a ton of them on eBay or other online markets, but most users here will tell you that you can't get an OEM battery any more no matter what the seller says, they just don't exist, and most of the ones that state "new" are just knock-offs or batteries for other devices that are re-purposed (and often of lower capacity). There is a serious market for cell phone batteries, and there are lots of counterfeits out and just out-right lies there, so the real problem is getting a good replacement battery. It is literally luck...
Remember, this device is 2.5 years old... Meaning most batteries for it were likely made prior to that. Although I paint a gloomy picture (it is a bit gloomy) there has to be some decent ones out there, but expect to pay $20+ and it will still be a crap shoot. Remember that when replacing the battery in this device, it isn't the easiest so do your homework. You will likely want a new back cover assembly (door and adhesive) as well because a good majority of the time they get destroyed when performing the operation.
Oh, and before you go down this road I suggest wiping your device... everything... and set it back up with the absolute bare minimum stuff (don't install anything if possible) for a couple days and retest your SOT. Not saying that's the case here, but Nougat's battery/app management is pretty good and we have seen more and more tales of things like Greenify/Amplify and other tweaks for helping battery life having the opposite effect, with some people noting the more they try to tweak it the worse it gets. Just a thought...

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Can you be more specific what you mean by your battery not behaving itself? Random shut down or at any particular battery level? Sudden drop off battery percentage ofb10% or more shortly after charger disconnect? Has the unusual battery occurred after any specific updates to any of your apps? Have you tried a factory reset (I know it's painful but it does help on occasion)? Just throwing it out there.
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Quite a few times my battery would drop ~5-6% just after I remove it from the charger (regular USB power, not the turbo charger). I have tried a factory once and I let the battery do the "break in" period just to see if the battery was calibrated or not. So far it seems it is calibrated...I've also tried draining the battery until it my it shuts off, then using the turbo charger and letting it sit for like ~8 hours (I forget where I saw that specific bit of advice. It was in response to someone else posting...I don't even remember where. Possibly XDA, not 100% sure).
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I found my capacity to be 3034mAh...which is....quite odd. My battery isn't even fully charged.
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I rarely ever got 3 hours... GSAM's average SOT over time was about 2h 20m... Although I did have occasional instances with 4 hours (on WiFi, reading, at night, very low drainage usage). Not really the point though
Should you replace the battery, well, from what you say it sounds like it is due... The real problem is getting a quality replacement. You can find a ton of them on eBay or other online markets, but most users here will tell you that you can't get an OEM battery any more no matter what the seller says, they just don't exist, and most of the ones that state "new" are just knock-offs or batteries for other devices that are re-purposed (and often of lower capacity). There is a serious market for cell phone batteries, and there are lots of counterfeits out and just out-right lies there, so the real problem is getting a good replacement battery. It is literally luck...
Remember, this device is 2.5 years old... Meaning most batteries for it were likely made prior to that. Although I paint a gloomy picture (it is a bit gloomy) there has to be some decent ones out there, but expect to pay $20+ and it will still be a crap shoot. Remember that when replacing the battery in this device, it isn't the easiest so do your homework. You will likely want a new back cover assembly (door and adhesive) as well because a good majority of the time they get destroyed when performing the operation.
Oh, and before you go down this road I suggest wiping your device... everything... and set it back up with the absolute bare minimum stuff (don't install anything if possible) for a couple days and retest your SOT. Not saying that's the case here, but Nougat's battery/app management is pretty good and we have seen more and more tales of things like Greenify/Amplify and other tweaks for helping battery life having the opposite effect, with some people noting the more they try to tweak it the worse it gets. Just a thought...
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I actually tried to replace the battery once and I did such a terrible job that I ruined the contact points on the ribbon that connects to the main board. I wish I could get a new phone (like a Pixel 2) but I have nowhere near enough income or funds set aside for that. Maybe later this year...hopefully...and not necessarily a Pixel 2 but something that runs very close to stock AOSP. I would definitely miss the 2 front facing speakers on anything else. I saw ZTE Axon 7 and the Razer phone has them too...but no idea how close they are to stock AOSP. Maybe I'll take the plunge into flashing the stock Nougat images and let it be naked for a few days. That sure would be annoying...but if it helps my MXPE survive in good shape until I can afford another phone I'm all in.
Thanks everyone for the help! I'll look into my options and hopefully I can get a bit more time out of this phone until I can afford a newer one that doesn't have the stupid Snapdragon 808. I shake my fist at thee, battery hog!

I'm on Nougat stock and I keep getting battery down at 25-35% regularely. I can see that when I put phone in charge after it shuts down percentage charge numbers start where power down happened at 25-35% Tried a battery calibrate weeks ago with a play store app. At first looked like it got fixed but just for a day or so and back with same problem. Also SoT is terrible, getting max 1h and if i do a heavy use even less and I dont even use social media at all. No idea if its a dead battery or software problem seeing I was on custom rom before i reverted back on stock nougat. Waiting for a decent Nougat modem stock Rom to try it once again to see if a difference or not.

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I'm on Nougat stock and I keep getting battery down at 25-35% regularely. I can see that when I put phone in charge after it shuts down percentage charge numbers start where power down happened at 25-35% Tried a battery calibrate weeks ago with a play store app. At first looked like it got fixed but just for a day or so and back with same problem. Also SoT is terrible, getting max 1h and if i do a heavy use even less and I dont even use social media at all. No idea if its a dead battery or software problem seeing I was on custom rom before i reverted back on stock nougat. Waiting for a decent Nougat modem stock Rom to try it once again to see if a difference or not.
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"Battery calibration" apps don't work... The proper way to "recalibrate" a battery in modern Moto devices is https://motorola-global-en-uk.custh...moto-g4-g4-plus/topic/battery/battery-reset/1
Honestly, if this does nothing, try a cache wipe, and if that doesn't help do a factory reset. If that fails as well, then the battery is likely beyond it's useful life (becoming more and more common lately) and will need to be replaced if you can find a quality replacement. There is no "trick" to getting the battery back.
It seems these batteries were engineered for 18-24 months of life and that is about it, as most modern devices themselves are only intended for a max of 24 months of usable life anyway... They sure seem to drop off significantly in charge capacity after that point.

Try this app? AccuBattery
After a couple of charge cycles it shows my battery at 89% of max. My manufacture date is 11-16-2016, so just over a year old. Of course, the battery could have been made before then by some months, I don't know.
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