I am gonna copy paste a thread I made for the t989 s2. It's all universal advice.
Yes... Root is required for a lot of this.
A nandroid backup first is a good idea.
Lots of this is common knowledge, but maybe not to some newer Android users.... So here it is.
About the only moto x specific thing I can add is freeze all that motorola stuff. Even the com.motorola stuff. If you really want active display.... Keep it, I did. I went a few days without touch less control and now it's back on. Gonna see if my battery gets effected. If you're not sure what some of this com. Motorola stuff is, you can google it.
So.....2 things I personally think work best to solve battery draining issues.
1. GSAM from playstore. It will tell you what apps are draining your battery...the top of the app list will be your main culprits. Then you need to find out why? You can check what apps are waking your phone and for how long. Gsam can tell you a lot if you play around with it and see what it can show you.
2. Cpuspy, also from play store. A simple yet easy way to see if your phone is deep sleeping. Deep sleep should pretty much be your total up time....minus screen on time. Roughly. If it isn't, or you have no deep sleep time.....back to gsam to find out why.
Once you narrow down the app culprits ....then you can search on why.
One last huge thing I personally have done for a long time now....reboot after you unplug from charger. Every single time. This used to be a fix for not getting deep sleep....and I think it still is a good practice. (This doesn't really seem necessary on my X)
That's it. 2 apps and you can post your battery draining questions with a lot more info than simply saying..."hey....my battery life sucks."
Cause 9.5 times out of 10.....it has nothing to do with the rom you are using. Usually anyway.
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A couple other things.
Comparing our total battery time with each other is pointless and meaningless. You can drain your phone from 100 to zero in 3 hours playing certain games, or it can last 30 hours cause you barely touched it. The only reasonable comparison is screen on time. Period. Tho it can alter greatly as well. 3 hours screen time on a 3d game, or 7 hours watching movies. 5 or more mostly texting and browsing......but still, its a better way to compare.
Gps is a battery destroyer. Some people leave it on...and certain apps will use it whenever you open them.
Screen brightness is a huge factor.
Task killers usually do more harm than good. Personally I only use greenify, and only for apps I know drain batteries a lot. Like maps. If maps is part of the rom....I convert it to a user app with titanium backup and greenify it. Canada's weather network app is a battery hog. Greenify. Basically anything that tops my list with more than 10 percent in gsam gets greenified. My wife used to use Facebook app....I got her using the browser. The app sucked her battery and data sometimes. No....no notification now, but she's on it a lot....her eyeballs are her notification. 
Juice defender....great for very light users....a battery waster for medium to heavy users. Turning wifi and data on and off 200 times a day will kill more battery than it saves. Ever see the amount of times juice defender wakes your phone? LOL. I got as high as 1000 before I deleted it. Gsam told me that!
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Here's the link to my S2 thread if anyone wants to read the discussions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461864
And this screen shot is my credentials. Lol
I have always got good battery life on any phone or rom... Cause it's my number one concern and all my attention goes to good battery life before anything else. It's also why I got the moto x over the G2..... I saw the battery life that some Moto X users were getting and it is right up there with average G2 battery life times. And I think the moto x is the better built phone.
Good luck!!
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kj2112 said:
Here's the link to my S2 thread if anyone wants to read the discussions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461864
And this screen shot is my credentials. Lol
I have always got good battery life on any phone or rom... Cause it's my number one concern and all my attention goes to good battery life before anything else. It's also why I got the moto x over the G2..... I saw the battery life that some Moto X users were getting and it is right up there with average G2 battery life times. And I think the moto x is the better built phone.
Good luck!!
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are you on jellybean?
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Yup, 4.2.2 stock
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GSAM won't work on 4.4 without a helper app, which requires root. Android removed the ability to see battery stats without root. I love GSAM and installed the root helper.
As for location services, I use App Ops (and now App Opps X that I'm rooted) to remove the location privileges for certain apps as I do leave my GPS enabled at all times and monitor what apps actually use it. I'm fine with ones that poll it like once an hour or something, but I had an app that used about 45 minutes of GPS lock when I hadn't even run the app since reboot. I disabled location access for that app with App Ops and it's fine now.
I also have a root app called Disable Service which lets you stop services for a given user or system app.
All of these things I described do require root. Although App Ops can be used without root, it can do more with it.
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Gps is a battery destroyer. Some people leave it on...and certain apps will use it whenever you open them.
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I leave high accuracy GPS on all the time, and have done so with all phones I've had with that option. I checked battery life with it enabled and with GPS off unless needed, and there was no appreciable change in battery life by turning GPS off. I haven't tested this on newer phones, but it was this way with my Fascinate. Considering Android does much better with managing sensors now, hardware has improved greatly, and the Fascinate was one of the worse phones for GPS ever, if a battery issue was going to happen, that was the phone to have it with.
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I leave high accuracy GPS on all the time, and have done so with all phones I've had with that option. I checked battery life with it enabled and with GPS off unless needed, and there was no appreciable change in battery life by turning GPS off. I haven't tested this on newer phones, but it was this way with my Fascinate. Considering Android does much better with managing sensors now, hardware has improved greatly, and the Fascinate was one of the worse phones for GPS ever, if a battery issue was going to happen, that was the phone to have it with.
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I also leave my GPS toggled "on" all the time (I use Power Control widget). It is actually only in use when it shows the GPS icon in the notification area, and I only look into it when it's on and I'm not using a location based app. If I find a problem I remove that app or disable the location services as mentioned in my previous post in this thread.
No real difference for me on battery life either, unless there is an offending app going crazy.
I'm willing to bet that on 4.4 with Google apps being even more integrated in the OS... That location services will shave at least some noticeable Battery life. Maybe not with an app as mentioned above, where you have control over what used gps. I'm on 4.2.2, but I'd be curious to see screen shots on 4.4...or even 4.2.2, of a full battery cycle with location services on.... And one off.
I know on my s2, if I forgot and left Gps on a while, it would eat my battery at least a 3rd quicker. Perhaps I had an app that abused gps, but it was pretty ugly anyway. Lol
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Oh.... I guess without gsam... Screen shot won't be as useful. Lol
Another reason I'm sticking with 4.2.2.
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Turn off "scanning allows available while wifi is off", its under WiFi advance settings, scans for WiFi even if your WiFi is off, I don't know who and why that is even a setting but it is
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kj2112 said:
I am gonna copy paste a thread I made for the t989 s2. It's all universal advice.
Yes... Root is required for a lot of this.
A nandroid backup first is a good idea.
Lots of this is common knowledge, but maybe not to some newer Android users.... So here it is.
About the only moto x specific thing I can add is freeze all that motorola stuff. Even the com.motorola stuff. If you really want active display.... Keep it, I did. I went a few days without touch less control and now it's back on. Gonna see if my battery gets effected. Of your not sure what some of this com. Motorola stuff is, you can google it.
So.....2 things I personally think work best to solve battery draining issues.
1. GSAM from playstore. It will tell you what apps are draining your battery...the top of the app list will be your main culprits. Then you need to find out why? You can check what apps are waking your phone and for how long. Gsam can tell you a lot if you play around with it and see what it can show you.
2. Cpuspy, also from play store. A simple yet easy way to see if your phone is deep sleeping. Deep sleep should pretty much be your total up time....minus screen on time. Roughly. If it isn't, or you have no deep sleep time.....back to gsam to find out why.
Once you narrow down the app culprits ....then you can search on why.
One last huge thing I personally have done for a long time now....reboot after you unplug from charger. Every single time. This used to be a fix for not getting deep sleep....and I think it still is a good practice.
That's it. 2 apps and you can post your battery draining questions with a lot more info than simply saying..."hey....my battery life sucks."
Cause 9.5 times out of 10.....it has nothing to do with the rom you are using. Usually anyway.
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Thanks for the info... I will try this one...
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CPU spy shows only 13% deep sleeping.
I don't have root. How can I hunt down where the battery goes? Thanks
redhonker said:
CPU spy shows only 13% deep sleeping.
I don't have root. How can I hunt down where the battery goes? Thanks
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Are you on 4.2.2. If so... Gsam will tell you.
Apparently if your on 4.4....you have to be rooted.
Kinda seems google is slowly trying to be like iPhone... And not let you do stuff unless you are rooted. Lol
But you should be around or over 80 percent deep sleep. If not.... You have an issue. And 13 percent.... You have a big issue.
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The best battery tip would be to download GravityBox and enabling "Solid Black Display". Being that the screen is AMOLED, you're saving loads of battery without sacrificing anything.
flashallthetime said:
Turn off "scanning allows available while wifi is off", its under WiFi advance settings, scans for WiFi even if your WiFi is off, I don't know who and why that is even a setting but it is
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If you read the differences between 4.3 and 4.4, you'll notice what it is for. Google implemented the change to improve location accuracy with minimal effects on the battery. From my experience, while it looks like wifi is on all the time, it doesn't really do anything to battery life, but vastly improves location accuracy and lock time. So far, I've done next to nothing suggested in this thread, and I'm still coming home from work with about the same battery % remaining as I did on my Note 2. The best part is that my phone is probably doing more to affect battery life, but actually using less.
One thing I didn't say in my opening posts was that if someone is having trouble with battery life.... Do all this stuff... Then one at a time bring back things you miss... If one of them impacts your battery more than you care for.... You'll know what app or feature it is.
Everyone has different battery expectations and needs.... Some of my suggestions may seem too extreme for some people, or not at all for others.
I do everything I posted. I personally want every extra minute of screen time I can get.... But that's just me. Everyone has their own needs. I still enjoy my phone immensely... And use the functions I want for myself.... And see 5 to 6 hour screen times every charge. If some of my cuts are too much for some... That's totally understandable.
Btw.... I don't care for touch less control.... But with it on.... I pretty much lose one hour screen time. Luckily it's not a feature I care about... So it's off. Just an FYI.
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kj2112 said:
Are you on 4.2.2. If so... Gsam will tell you.
Apparently if your on 4.4....you have to be rooted.
Kinda seems google is slowly trying to be like iPhone... And not let you do stuff unless you are rooted. Lol
But you should be around or over 80 percent deep sleep. If not.... You have an issue. And 13 percent.... You have a big issue.
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Yeah, I am on 4.4, not rooted.
59% at 384 MHz
What are the Motorola services that I should disable?
I've gone through Apps Ops and disabled wake-lock on almost all apps. Any other ways to find out what's behind the scene?
Thanks
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Ive spent the last few days fiddling and testing stuff to increase battery life. Here is what i have learnt...
(Im running R2BA026)
Firstly, personally i do not want to lose any functionality/performance in order to gain battery life. I think that if you are going to spend the money to get a phone with awesome hardware it should be able to run at full whack.
This guide will not be useful to all, but hopefully it will be handy to those in my situation.
This is a guide for what i have found to be the best compromise between battery life and user experience, with the emphasis being on user experience.
My specific goals are:
- I do not want to lose any performance i.e cause any slowdown/choppiness.
- I am only looking for a 24h battery life as i can charge every night.
- I want to be able to use my phone without worrying about battery. Specifically I never want to think "i shouldnt do that it might run down my battery". I should be able to use all the features on my phone without questioning if i can afford to.
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In my experience using a task killer resulted in only minimal gains to battery life but it meant that opening up apps could be a lot slower and apps could be choppy just after opening them.
Additionally the idea of setCPU is a good one however when coming out of sleep or opening an app it takes a little while to get back up to speed. This also causes choppiness. Personally I find lag/choppiness a real pet peeve, it irritates me alot, so I do not use setCPU either. It is true that with careful set up the lag can be minimised but then the battery life gains are also minimal, so I choose to keep full performance and dispense with setCPU. Bear in mind that the hardware platform is already very efficient and well optimised so a software solution will pretty much be a straight trade of performance for battery life.
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With those two common options out of the way, what else can be done to save juice?
Well generally the biggest consumer of energy is the screen. The simplest option is just to turn it down to minimum brightness, but in my opinion that is not a good solution, its too nice a screen to have dimmed all the time. Thankfully the auto-brightness does a pretty good job of keeping the back light at a good level. It can be a bit disconcerting if you enable it when using full brightness as the drop can seem somewhat dramatic but don't let that put you off, give at 1/2 a day or so and you wont even notice.
Other easy but important things you can do are turning the screen timeout to minimum and always turning off the screen (power button) as soon as you are finished. They are tiny changes but really do make a big difference.
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Onto wifi...
I think there may be a bug with the firmware because if I disable wifi I get a HUGE increase in battery life when Im at home. I have good 3g coverage here and a 3GB allowance so I only need to turn on wifi when Im browsing the web or market, seeing as it takes seconds with the widget this option suits me fine.
I suspect that when the phone is connected to wifi it doesn't sleep properly so drains very fast.
Only turning on wifi when i want it made by far the biggest difference to me, and as it doesn't affect my user experience in any appreciable way I am happy to do it.
I think its a good idea to mention app/widget updates and refreshes here, personally i have all my widgets and apps set to refresh only once a day, that suits me fine because I can refresh them all manually very easily if I want to to be absolutely up to date and I'm not a twitter or facebook addict Most of my widgets are news/article based so once a day is perfect.
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GPS, again this is rather obvious, if you don't use it, turn it off. Personally i use latitude so I have it turned on all the time. Android seems very good about only using it when it is needed and the phone seems to get a fix very quickly so in reality it doesn't spend much of the day being active.
Same goes for bluetooth, although I don't use it so it stays off.
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Nothing i have said here is particularly revelatory mostly common sense but I have always had battery issues often with the battery lasting ~12 hours before asking to be charged.
Updating to 026 made a big difference and following these rules means my battery drains on average 2-2.5% an hour under normal use.
Normal use for me:
-Wifi Off
-GPS on (With latitude widget)
-Gtalk always running
-3 news widgets + timescape
-frequent texting
-moderate calls
-frequent fiddling
The phone is very very snappy, everything apart from timescape opens as near to instant as makes no odds, the phone is a pleasure to use. My battery life has comfortably doubled without the use of any apps or any loss of performance.
Mission Accomplished
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Cheers for that. Very interesting .
I definitely agree about the task killer apps, the OS does a perfect job at running itself!
One question, Am i correct in presuming you have 3g always running? Network mode set to GSM/WCDMA preferred? Ive been afraid to do this as i have it in my head that 3g eats up my battery for fun! I'll have to try it out.
Thanks again!
I bought an extended battery for my X10 the sloping sides stop it looking like a brick. The G1 always looked like a brick with an extended battery but the X10 sloping sides do serve a purpose.
helliewm said:
I bought an extended battery for my X10 the sloping sides stop it looking like a brick. The G1 always looked like a brick with an extended battery but the X10 sloping sides do serve a purpose.
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Cheers for that. Very interesting .
I definitely agree about the task killer apps, the OS does a perfect job at running itself!
One question, Am i correct in presuming you have 3g always running? Network mode set to GSM/WCDMA preferred? Ive been afraid to do this as i have it in my head that 3g eats up my battery for fun! I'll have to try it out.
Thanks again!
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Yep, thats correct With the 3g on it seems to stay in 2g when sleeping then switch to 3g when you wake it, you can see the change in the status bar about a second after waking. Pure speculation though ...
Well, let us know how you get on with 3g active all the time
helliewm said:
I bought an extended battery for my X10 the sloping sides stop it looking like a brick. The G1 always looked like a brick with an extended battery but the X10 sloping sides do serve a purpose.
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I love how slim the x10 is, that combined with the fact that the 3rd party backs are ugly and can be poor fitting mean an extended battery isnt really an option for me, whatever suits though ^^
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Nice one where i can get one.
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I certainly plan on getting a pair of bluetooth headphones, will be interesting to see how they affect battery life...
TechGuru_x10 said:
Nice one where i can get one.
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It's from Sanyo. It's being released in Japan in October, but, I'm sure it will come out internationally as well.
James thanks u were helpful
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Some additional tips based on my personal experience:
-Using a third-party task launcher helps too. Some may not agree, but it works for me.
-Use a third-party digital clock widget instead of the stock one. Again, YMMV.
-Use a third-party(AGAIN!) MP3 player instead of Mediascape. I'm using Meridian, and notice an increase in battery life when playing MP3s.
I like having some control so I run task killer but there's no auto-kill enabled and if I know the phone is just going to turn it back on in 5min, I don't bother killing those apps. Maybe I should just remove it altogether, but it seems convenient to be able to kill an app at will (I do it with windows sometimes).
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-Use a third-party digital clock widget instead of the stock one. Again, YMMV.
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I think the reason why you find that the stock one drains your battery is due to the "use network provided values" being checked in the date and time settings.
Interesting article. I am running 024 and my battery is life is poor. I managed to get seven hours use yesterday after a full charge. My usage throughout the day wasn't anything too crazy. Where I work I get only a standard signal (no 3G). I seem to get a better battery life.
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I agree battery life is horrible. It makes me really miss my blackberry.
Even when battery life is low, charging it takes FOREVER, not to mention if you plug it in and play with it at the same time, it charges even slower.
My Blackberry Tour charged fully in what seemed like 45 mins from less than 10% batt life. I know they are different phones, but it just really sucks to me.
I'm debating going back to a blackberry now. The X10 and other android phones (and Iphone), are more toys than anything else.
/end rant.
hehe sorry
Thats odd, my phone charges pretty damn fast, just a few days ago i was pleasantly surprised that it charged from completely empty (id forgotten to charge it) to ~80% in less than an hour.
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Even when battery life is low, charging it takes FOREVER, not to mention if you plug it in and play with it at the same time, it charges even slower.
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Hmm, mine charges from <10% to 100% within 1 - 2 hours.
Make sure you are charging by AC, charging by USB does indeed take forever.
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Hmm, mine charges from <10% to 100% within 1 - 2 hours.
Make sure you are charging by AC, charging by USB does indeed take forever.
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Yeah I agree by USB takes forever.
JamesBarnes said:
Additionally the idea of setCPU is a good one however when coming out of sleep or opening an app it takes a little while to get back up to speed. This also causes choppiness. Personally I find lag/choppiness a real pet peeve, it irritates me alot, so I do not use setCPU either. It is true that with careful set up the lag can be minimised but then the battery life gains are also minimal, so I choose to keep full performance and dispense with setCPU. Bear in mind that the hardware platform is already very efficient and well optimised so a software solution will pretty much be a straight trade of performance for battery life.
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Quite interesting for me, I decided to add some statistical experiment about it.
Under my situation and environment. (I won't go in detail, sorry about that)
With SetCPU were 2.32% per hour without any usage.
W/O SetCPU were 3.18% per hour without any usage.
or approximately 7% maximum saving per day time. (for me)
My SetCPU only effected sleep state.
Not a big deal but still significant different, but it could survive for whole day anyhow.
I'm more interested about Killing app. I might try after this as I see many argument about it.
Cebees said:
Quite interesting for me, I decided to add some statistical experiment about it.
Under my situation and environment. (I won't go in detail, sorry about that)
With SetCPU were 2.32% per hour without any usage.
W/O SetCPU were 3.18% per hour without any usage.
or approximately 7% maximum saving per day time. (for me)
My SetCPU only effected sleep state.
Not a big deal but still significant different, but it could survive for whole day anyhow.
I'm more interested about Killing app. I might try after this as I see many argument about it.
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Ohh figures, good stuff! Always better to have some numbers to work with.
Do you not find that for a few seconds after waking up the phone gets choppy?
I would definitely be interested in seeing the stats with a task killer
Do you guys leave internet/gps on or something? I get 3 hours/percent on idle.
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Ohh figures, good stuff! Always better to have some numbers to work with.
Do you not find that for a few seconds after waking up the phone gets choppy?
I would definitely be interested in seeing the stats with a task killer
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Yup, with SetCPU for sleep state, it was 'choppy' for a few sec, mostly effect lock screen and screen switching.
I've had my phone for about a week now(att unrooted) and experienced something very strange this morning. I fully charged the phone at around 5:30 last night and used he phone very moderately. At around 11:30 pm uploaded 3 photos on my google drive and the battery was 80-90%. Woke up this morning and the battery was dead. This is totally out of the ordinary because I never experienced this before even with my old and buggy captivate. Keep in mind that I was on wifi and the phone is not yet rooted. Has anyone else noticed anything like this?
That is strange. Honestly, I dunno what could cause it besides some random app that you installed.
i say download a battery calibrator and then go from there
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i say download a battery calibrator and then go from there
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Battery Calibrator won't do anything.
Install Better Battery Stats, and when your phone turns on after plugging it in, see what was using the most power. It won't work for the first time but will work in the future.
Even better uninstall ****ty apps and disable notifications on this like word with friends, scramble with friends, etc. Go into app manager and disable everything you don't use. Report back in a week.
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I've had the phone for 5 days and gone through maybe 8 batt cycles. I'm not getting more than 2hrs screen time on any cycle. This is stupidly horrible battery life. There has got to be something severely wrong. I don't do much with the phone. I can't even with less than 2hrs to work with. Overnight batt loss is maybe 8%.
Any help is ENORMOUSLY appreciated.
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I was able to reproduce something similar. I opened up market\play to do a few updates and once the update process started, I put the phone down on my desk. Updates installed and the screen remained turned on. Now, I don't remember the exact steps or what other apps were running in the background. All I know is that the screen remained on for a few minutes until I manually turned it off.
This could very well be a bug in Samsung's face\image recognition software that handles smart stay. It might be a bug in google play, a faulty app or a combination of things... Because the battery on this phone is actually quite amazing. I unplugged my phone this morning, went to work, updated a bunch of apps, saved local maps to google maps, hung out on facebook, surfed the web... and after 10.5 hours, I still have more than 50% battery left.
That's a good indication that what I'm experiencing is a software glitch of some kind that if left un-attended, could completely drain your battery.
Try turning battery saver on and check pretty much everything in there. Disable smart stay. Manually turn off your screen when you're not using it. Turn off GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi when you're not using it. Some downloads hang in the Play store if you "update all"... cancel these and download them one at a time. Do not just assume it all went to plan.
These tips on combination with my first post should help. You should get 4 hours of screen time with some phone calls in a single charge. I find certain apps like Scramble with friends chug charge faster than things like reading xda. Chrome for instance on the PC is less battery friendly and more resources intensive than IE. Perhaps the same is true for the mobile version.
There are way too many variables for us to pick out what your underlying issue may be. Start eliminating things and we'll keep throwing out new ideas. Good luck!
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My phones battery increased off of the charger. Anyone else having this happen? It jumped from 77 to 78 so idk what's going on.
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I just posted a pretty good size list of apps that can be disabled. That helps save battery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740228
I have managed to narrow it down.
- I had 2 updates in market. I pressed update all.
- screen turned off when the first update was almost done.
- I pressed the power key and entered my pass to turn the screen on and left the phone on my desk.
- I kept seeing the smart stay icon, but the screen remained on.
- I moved phone without touching the screen...no change.
- held my hand over the camera at a distance of a few inches and the screen finally dimmed out.
This happened while google play had focus. This is a bug in smart stay or google play.
Somethings definitely up, this battery life is as bad if not worse than my epic 4g.
Did notice one thing... I cleared memory and it said 51 applications closed.... I don't even think i have that many applications on the phone!
Memory eats up a lot of power.
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Somethings definitely up, this battery life is as bad if not worse than my epic 4g.
Did notice one thing... I cleared memory and it said 51 applications closed.... I don't even think i have that many applications on the phone!
Memory eats up a lot of power.
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You're the second person I found that has the same problem as me! I can't even get 2hrs screen time through my day to day. The same day to day that my atrix was giving me 3.5hrs on.
I feel better knowing that I'm not doing something wrong, but could the phone just have that horrible of battery life and all these reports are a fanboi lie with review articles just copying each other?
I'm so glad im not the only one experiencing all of this! Lol, i upgraded from my mytouch 4G, i DID notice smart stay would come on at random times, sometimes when i wasnt even looking at my phone lol, disabled it & disabled a whole bunch of other crap & like many others & i dont get 4 hours screen time, more like 2 which sucks, id also like to have my data on all the time (but im forced to turn it off to save battery ), im rooted & ive uninstalled w.e crap i didnt need/want or felt it was just running for no reason. I'm doing the exact same battery steps i did with my mytouch & its sad =/ i was hoping i wouldnt have to do half of the ones im doing now, i LOVE my S3 but samsung needs to figure out wth is goin on & same with the guy who talked about if the articles r lying) i saw one on tech radar yesterday on battery life on the S3, they r either lying or they got a good phone in a good batch, smh, also experience my screen flickers from time to time while texting (i always close background processes) i notice blotches on the screen while texting at night or in the dark also, again i love my phone but u know, id love to have my data on constantly to check things quick without my battery going down drastically when i barely even touch it =/
I too have strange battery life. I usually leave my phone charging over night. When I unplug the battery in the morning, I lose about 10% every hour. However, when I get to around 80%, I recharge it again and it loses battery at a MUCH slower rate. Around 2% every hour on stand by. I'm not sure why this happens, but it does.
Also, there are some instances when I pick up the phone and it's pretty warm. Even though it's been sitting idle for about 20 min. Then there are times when I pick it up and it's normal room temperature. This leads me to believe that there are some processes going on while my phone is idle. I'm trying to find out what apps are causing this, as I believe it is causing my battery to drain while idle. It's very inconsistent, which is making it hard to track down. I don't even have a lot of apps installed. Most of it is actually the bloatware that came with my phone
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I too have strange battery life. I usually leave my phone charging over night. When I unplug the battery in the morning, I lose about 10% every hour. However, when I get to around 80%, I recharge it again and it loses battery at a MUCH slower rate. Around 2% every hour on stand by. I'm not sure why this happens, but it does.
Also, there are some instances when I pick up the phone and it's pretty warm. Even though it's been sitting idle for about 20 min. Then there are times when I pick it up and it's normal room temperature. This leads me to believe that there are some processes going on while my phone is idle. I'm trying to find out what apps are causing this, as I believe it is causing my battery to drain while idle. It's very inconsistent, which is making it hard to track down. I don't even have a lot of apps installed. Most of it is actually the bloatware that came with my phone
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I am starting to think it's ATT's LTE connection. I randomly have days where my battery won't make it until 5 pm without really using it very often. Other days, the phone goes all day with 4 hours plus of screen time no problem. On the really bad days, the phone will stay warm despite me closing every app with task manager. I am now experimenting with turning off mobile data (not a permanent solution), and the phone is cool to the touch again. It may be that the phone is burning up the battery in areas where the LTE connection is weak.
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My phones battery increased off of the charger. Anyone else having this happen? It jumped from 77 to 78 so idk what's going on.
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Mine did this as well I think it went up 3-4%.
Have no idea what I'm doing wrong
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All I've been doing us browsing Twitter, Instagram, and Google plus. I have no exchange accounts. Location on battery saving.
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My battery life is more or less the same. There's even less I can see without battery stats on KitKat. Try turning location off completely.
@MajorTankz I feel like it's the Signals. Cause when I'm at home, the battery lasts much longer.
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Looks like the signal to me, the decline seems consistent with WiFi to cellular/low signal back to Wi-Fi. Are you in an LTE area? I find that dropping to 3g in areas that I have poor LTE signal helps when I'm getting this type of drain
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Looks like the signal to me, the decline seems consistent with WiFi to cellular/low signal back to Wi-Fi. Are you in an LTE area? I find that dropping to 3g in areas that I have poor LTE signal helps when I'm getting this type of drain
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im in school, and im usually on 3G with 2 bars. its pretty bad.
8 hours, and still at 50% ?
doesnt seem that bad.
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8 hours, and still at 50% ?
doesnt seem that bad.
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but Im only at 1 hour SOT. for some reason, that doesnt seem right
Try some of this, or all. Half of it requires root tho.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561392
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But yeah... Almost 8 hours with only an hour and a bit of screen time isn't ideal. I think allot of the motorola stuff is making your Android OS as high as it is. I've got mine down to about a 13 to 16 percent average by the end of my charge.
And if your screen is 50 percent with an hour time In 8 hours, you must be running it pretty bright.
Some people don't want to do the cutbacks I do, which is great.... But it will effect your battery for sure.
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Try some of this, or all. Half of it requires root tho.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561392
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But yeah... Almost 8 hours with only an hour and a bit of screen time isn't ideal. I think allot of the motorola stuff is making your Android OS as high as it is. I've got mine down to about a 13 to 16 percent average by the end of my charge.
And if your screen is 50 percent with an hour time In 8 hours, you must be running it pretty bright.
Some people don't want to do the cutbacks I do, which is great.... But it will effect your battery for sure.
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Ok thanks, I'll try some of these, and Im usually on Auto Brightness.
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Ok thanks, I'll try some of these, and Im usually on Auto Brightness.
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If you're rooted.... Try xposed, with gravity box module. There's an option to swipe along status bar to change brightness... Really handy and you can keep it as low as you can handle. Will save allot of screen juice.
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If you're rooted.... Try xposed, with gravity box module. There's an option to swipe along status bar to change brightness... Really handy and you can keep it as low as you can handle. Will save allot of screen juice.
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Not rooted yet. Im waiting for 4.4 for sprint to come, I will ota to that and then root.
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Ok thanks, I'll try some of these, and Im usually on Auto Brightness.
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Auto-brightness drains the battery faster. It will cause the phone to poll the light sensor (frequently) and then constantly raise/lower the brightness of the screen. Odds are, you need it adjusted once and set there. Manual brightness doesn't need to poll the sensor or worry about what brightness level to adjust to.
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Auto-brightness drains the battery faster. It will cause the phone to poll the light sensor (frequently) and then constantly raise/lower the brightness of the screen. Odds are, you need it adjusted once and set there. Manual brightness doesn't need to poll the sensor or worry about what brightness level to adjust to.
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I changed to manual brightness. turned it to about 25%
The biggest transitional obstacle for me to overcome switching from the Note 3 was battery life. I got simply insane battery life with the Note 3 (around 8hrs SOT consistently) so I expected to be extremely disappointed with the battery life that I would get out of the Moto X. Much to my suprise this Moto X actually gets decent battery life. Honestly, in comparison to any other device other than the N3 it gets downright awesome battery life. I can't complain at all about my daily usage stats. I don't at all feel like my phone is on a leash. I can comfortably just use my device for 8-9:30hrs under heavy use and get 4-5hrs SOT. I'm sure if I adjusted my usage I could get even better battery life but due to my work I have to be on the phone constantly.
I have read some other posts with people saying that the battery life isn't good but I can only assume that they must have some app not functioning properly. Maybe something else is going on due to rooting or even exchange accounts or poor signal strength. I'm not really sure as I can't trouble shoot it myself. I was initially having issues after the Kit Kat update so I performed a few FDR in Recovery and all my issues are fixed. Even better, my battery life is even better now than it was prior to the update.
The other major difference this time around (I've gone into Recovery to FDR my MX twice now) is that I decided to not to use ART and I stuck with Dalvik this go round and it's made a substantial difference regarding battery life. I'll give it a few more days to see how it goes. After I get a good idea of how it performs I'll switch over to ART to see how it performs.
Keep in mind that none of my battery tests are scientific. This is all real world tests and first hand experiences. I just figured this may help someone or even ease a potential Moto X buyers mind a little.
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Moderate use, little use, more moderate use...lasted this long without a charge. Have been trying to drain all the way and charge all the way up almost every time to try and calibrate it correctly.
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Ok thanks, I'll try some of these, and Im usually on Auto Brightness.
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Maybe the setting just use battery saver
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Moderate use, little use, more moderate use...lasted this long without a charge. Have been trying to drain all the way and charge all the way up almost every time to try and calibrate it correctly.
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You should not ever let your battery drain all the way. Lithium Ion batteries can't be calibrated the way Ni-Ca (Nickel Cadmium) batteries used to be able to. In fact draining a lithium ion battery makes your battery health worse and can lower battery life over time if you continually do this. Best to keep it above 20% if possible.
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You should not ever let your battery drain all the way. Lithium Ion batteries can't be calibrated the way Ni-Ca (Nickel Cadmium) batteries used to be able to. In fact draining a lithium ion battery makes your battery health worse and can lower battery life over time if you continually do this. Best to keep it above 20% if possible.
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All this time, I thought you need to drain the battery before charging it again..thanks for the info..
after updating to 4.4 my battery is absolutely terrible. 4.2... id get 4hours screen on time at minimum... holding for 30+ hours total. 4.4.... i'm seeing maybe 2 hours screen on time... holding for les than 20hours total.
wiped... did factory reset... no change. considering going back to 4.2.
So I was posting some info in another thread but I figured I would make my own thread for it. It seems like the power consumption at idle might be the cause for the "not as good as expected" battery life. For example my G3 will sit off the charger for 4 hours without being used and still be at 100%, the Turbo loses 6% in that time. The G3 has a 3000mAH Battery and I could easily get 24h of off the charger time on the G3. My question is what is killing the battery on the Turbo??? Its kinda hard to look over the battery stats when there is no root. Anyone have any input?
I think it's because of the wifi. I too have experienced crazy idle drain compared to my G2 and it's really making me regret getting this phone. It seems like they just slapped the kitkat ROM together and didn't really care to test it very well because Lollipop is coming out so soon.
It's definitely draining at idle more than usual or should be, I agree. I don't think it is WiFi related though, or at least not enough to be the main problem. I could be wrong of course. I have also not experience any WiFi or Bluetooth issues whatsoever and I use a Moto 360 all day, every day.
I am currently on my 4th charge cycle since acquiring the 64GB BN model. It's been powered on for 7h 32m and I'm sitting at 78% with 1hr 18m SoT. That's with heavy usage and taking quite a bit of pictures & video during this mornings product demo presentations at work.
Hardly anything for me personally to complain about. I'm sure they will optimize it. I'm almost certain than Android L 5.0 will make this phone a true beast.
Time will tell.
are you leaving gps or high accuracy location settings on?
I have the same issue as the OP. My G3 lost very little battery life when idling. I've attempted shutting down email accounts, turning off location and selectively removing apps in hopes of determining the cause of the drain...without success. This could be a deal breaker if we don't get some type of root exploit soon.
Well this sucks. I was going to get the Turbo but now I'm going to wait and see what happens with this drain issue. Maybe 5.0 will fix it.
I have been using the same settings that I did on my G3, Auto brightness, Location OFF and Auto Sync. Glad I'm not the only one noticing it too, I think its all in the build of Kit Kat they put on this phone, hopefully L comes out soon.
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So I was posting some info in another thread but I figured I would make my own thread for it. It seems like the power consumption at idle might be the cause for the "not as good as expected" battery life. For example my G3 will sit off the charger for 4 hours without being used and still be at 100%, the Turbo loses 6% in that time. The G3 has a 3000mAH Battery and I could easily get 24h of off the charger time on the G3. My question is what is killing the battery on the Turbo??? Its kinda hard to look over the battery stats when there is no root. Anyone have any input?
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How about you start by posting screenshots of your battery stats from System...Battery
I don't have any issues whatsoever.
Well once I figure out how to do that I will post it, but in the mean time what phone were you coming from? A few people have agreed in this post that the battery life is worse @ idle then the G3 so its not just me.
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Well once I figure out how to do that I will post it, but in the mean time what phone were you coming from? A few people have agreed in this post that the battery life is worse @ idle then the G3 so its not just me.
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Well G3 could be out of box, not trying to argue wanted to understand what your problem was. If you press the graph you'll see more details on what is using batteries (awake vs screen on, cell signal etc) and more in Android System if you go into that screen.
Overall what your getting .. 1-2% is not a big deal to me and beauty of the massive battery is you don't have to worry about but if really wanted to you could improve by turning off stuff you don't need or even automating it.
FWIW I'm coming from a GS3 with a tiny battery but even that phone lasted 5 days idling with the right setting for my use case (cell radio off / WiFi on). With Turbo just disabled some apps I didn't need and don't even think about it any more. I do have complaints about the Turbo but battery is definitely not one of them.
I'm interested in this as well. I bought my turbo yesterday evening and it had a pretty good charge (>80%) out of the box. I played with it for much of the evening and copied ~8gb of data to the phone via wifi. When I went to bed battery was at 60%, when I woke up it was 46%. I noticed that my third biggest battery use is command center, so I disabled auto-location in that app. I'm hoping to have better results on my first full charge.
Yeah I agree, but its literally the same settings I ran of my G3. I think I'm just gonna return it between the weak wifi and cell signal, and the camera it's just not worth it if the battery life isn't better then my G3
I've been posting in the other battery life thread... but to summarize, I'm going to be doing some thorough testing over the next 24/48 hours (currently ongoing).
I have already noticed significant improvements in my battery life. Has mentioned in the other thread. I'll be making a detailed post on Friday evening with my results.
I may also, from time to time post some of my progress, as I already have an understanding as to one of the issues involved with the so called "idle drain" everyone is referring to, and it is NOT WiFi.
Keep your eyes on that thread here.
Thanks, I'm pretty good with understanding wake locks, I just don't know where to start without root since most the stats in BB require it. I'm intrested to see what you come up with. I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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Is there a hard date for the nexus?
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I've been posting in the other battery life thread... but to summarize, I'm going to be doing some thorough testing over the next 24/48 hours (currently ongoing).
I have already noticed significant improvements in my battery life. Has mentioned in the other thread. I'll be making a detailed post on Friday evening with my results.
I may also, from time to time post some of my progress, as I already have an understanding as to one of the issues involved with the so called "idle drain" everyone is referring to.
Keep your eyes on that thread here.
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Very interested in what you come up with, thanks!
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Thanks, I'm pretty good with understanding wake locks, I just don't know where to start without root since most the stats in BB require it. I'm intrested to see what you come up with. I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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Well you are limited with what you can do but I already gave you a start in my post, maybe you missed it. The only insight you will have without root (for tools like Better Battery Stats) is looking into all the info you can get out of Settings..Battery. There you can see wake locks vs screen on time and other stats like cell signal / wifi status etc. Then you can also dive into your biggest usage, for you it looks like it is Android System. They will list system services that are classified here. For example, you'll see the moto features are part of this. If you don't want to dig you can wait for Andromjb's updates
Overall I wouldn't base your decision to return the Turbo based on the battery -- base it on your other problems it sounds like you're having with wifi signal etc. That sounds like reason enough for a return. If you're ok with the larger size of the Nexus 6 then to me it's a no brainer to go with that instead of Droid Turbo since they are almost identical in terms of hardware.
For those that are getting battery drain, did you disable all of the verizon apps? There are some 20+ apps that are constantly running in the background and will drain your battery(even after i did a factory reset, these apps were sending data despite me never having opened them). Disable those, restart, then see if things change over the next cycle. I got 2d9hr31m and 4hr23 min of SOT(minimal usage) and was at 13%; this was on the first charge.
Could this drain be due to some of the sensors used for notifications. Doesn't the turbo have the feature where you stick your hand over it and it shows the notifications? If this is the case, wouldn't those sensors have to stay on?
Yeah I have 27 apps disabled and it really didn't make a difference for me like it has in the past, their must be something killing the battery on this 30m of screen time and I'm at 79% shouldn't be happening.
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Yeah I have 27 apps disabled and it really didn't make a difference for me like it has in the past, their must be something killing the battery on this 30m of screen time and I'm at 79% shouldn't be happening.
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Thats actually really interesting. I haven't been experiencing anything like that. Perhaps try doing a factory reset then disabling them again. That's the only thing I did differently. Perhaps it's just a bad device? I'm already at 2hrs screen time, heavy downloading(off line apps), and have been on battery for 1d8hr- still at 45%. Is there anything in the battery stats? Wake locks perhaps?
So I have noticed over the past few weeks that my Bluetooth is the biggest user of power on my phone. Today I haven't gone anywhere or connected to Bluetooth at all. Last night I transferred some pictures using Bluetooth, but that only took a few minutes. I am attaching a screen shot of the Bluetooth usage and one of my SOT. SOT is nearly two hours yet its used less battery. Can anyone explain this? Is anyone else seeing similar usage on their device? Thanks.
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I'm having the same issue.
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I'm having the same issue.
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Interesting. Lets see if anyone else chimes in on this one. Mine is very consistently using the most power of anything on my phone. Almost like its always searching for BT connections or something. I would really like to hear what others are experiencing with BT power usage. Just put mine on the charger and it had used 851 mAh and was 21% of my batteries drain. The only usage it got today was during a trip out much earlier today when it was connected to my vehicles BT for phone calls only, no media streaming. Total driving was about 50 minutes.
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So I have noticed over the past few weeks that my Bluetooth is the biggest user of power on my phone. Today I haven't gone anywhere or connected to Bluetooth at all. Last night I transferred some pictures using Bluetooth, but that only took a few minutes. I am attaching a screen shot of the Bluetooth usage and one of my SOT. SOT is nearly two hours yet its used less battery. Can anyone explain this? Is anyone else seeing similar usage on their device? Thanks.View attachment 3594090View attachment 3594091
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I have this problem as well. There is a thread about it in the Nexus 6p forum and another on Reddit. Most of them are blaming the GasBuddy app, but I don't use that app so I'm not convinced that it is just app related. I only keep Bluetooth on in the car or when I'm wearing my 360 but it shoots to the top of my battery stats when I do.
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I have this problem as well. There is a thread about it in the Nexus 6p forum and another on Reddit. Most of them are blaming the GasBuddy app, but I don't use that app so I'm not convinced that it is just app related. I only keep Bluetooth on in the car or when I'm wearing my 360 but it shoots to the top of my battery stats when I do.
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Wow that's really interesting since I have the Gas Buddy app installed. Gonna remove it and see what happens. Thanks for the input, and I'll report back later today on my findings.
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Wow that's really interesting since I have the Gas Buddy app installed. Gonna remove it and see what happens. Thanks for the input, and I'll report back later today on my findings.
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No joy, Gas Buddy app is not causing the issue on my phone. Bluetooth is still using the most battery. Furthermore the battery life seems to be terrible in general. Went to bed with a full charge and woke up and phone was down to 90%. To me that seems like way too much drain with MM and the supposed doze feature. Not so sure about this build of MM on the Moto X Pure, it doesn't seem that Motorola did their homework properly before releasing this update. Still would like to hear from more people and if they are having this issue as well.
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No joy, Gas Buddy app is not causing the issue on my phone. Bluetooth is still using the most battery. Furthermore the battery life seems to be terrible in general. Went to bed with a full charge and woke up and phone was down to 90%. To me that seems like way too much drain with MM and the supposed doze feature. Not so sure about this build of MM on the Moto X Pure, it doesn't seem that Motorola did their homework properly before releasing this update. Still would like to hear from more people and if they are having this issue as well.
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Try better battery stats. It'll tell you very very specifically what's sucking your juice the most.
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Try better battery stats. It'll tell you very very specifically what's sucking your juice the most.
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So I bought the app but I'm going to need a little help in figuring out how it is supposed to help me, or what I should be looking for exactly to narrow down the massive Bluetooth drain. I see there are tons of settings and I'm sure there is a tutorial somewhere, but if you could point me in the right direction that would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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So I bought the app but I'm going to need a little help in figuring out how it is supposed to help me, or what I should be looking for exactly to narrow down the massive Bluetooth drain. I see there are tons of settings and I'm sure there is a tutorial somewhere, but if you could point me in the right direction that would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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Charge up one night, and then unplug and use the phone normally the next day. As you near 20% battery, go to BBS and check the different pages (switched with the top dropdown menu). Focus on partial wakelocks, kernel wakelocks, and alarms. If some app or services pops out to you and looks like an obvious drain, try removing it and seeing if you drain is resolved. Otherwise, post screenshots and let's see if I or anyone else here can figure out what's taking so much battery through bluetooth.
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So I have noticed over the past few weeks that my Bluetooth is the biggest user of power on my phone. Today I haven't gone anywhere or connected to Bluetooth at all. Last night I transferred some pictures using Bluetooth, but that only took a few minutes. I am attaching a screen shot of the Bluetooth usage and one of my SOT. SOT is nearly two hours yet its used less battery. Can anyone explain this? Is anyone else seeing similar usage on their device? Thanks.View attachment 3594090View attachment 3594091
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This is what i'm seeing on my end and I never turn off BT using my moto 360(daily), car's BT(daily), and LG BT headset(most days). Stock rooted here.
UPDATE: Forgot to mention that I'm using Greenify with aggressive doze plus shallow hibernation and Naptime with aggressive doze enabled.
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This is what i'm seeing on my end and I never turn off BT using my moto 360(daily), car's BT(daily), and LG BT headset(most days). Stock rooted here.
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That looks total normal. I'm about to post mine again here in a moment but you will see my BT usage is way more than that. I only took a 15 minute drive today so that should be the only BT usage that occurred. But even when I was sleeping last night the phone drained 10%, that can't be right. As soon as I woke up I looked at the battery stat's and wouldn't you know BT was at the top! Something is not right. I might try a reset to see if that fixes it. Before doing that I was trying to get others to weigh in and see if they are seeing the same things. Thanks.
mademan420 said:
This is what i'm seeing on my end and I never turn off BT using my moto 360(daily), car's BT(daily), and LG BT headset(most days). Stock rooted here.
UPDATE: Forgot to mention that I'm using Greenify with aggressive doze plus shallow hibernation and Naptime with aggressive doze enabled.
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Here is my new screen shots. If someone notices something glaringly bad, let me know. Thanks.
robn30 said:
Here is my new screen shots. If someone notices something glaringly bad, let me know. Thanks.
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Have you tried deleting any BT pairings then repairing them
mademan420 said:
Have you tried deleting any BT pairings then repairing them
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I just deleted two of the 3 pairings I had. Don't want to delete my vehicle pairing so I left that one. I'm going to charge the phone and see what I get through the end of work tomorrow. My phone will be used minimally the rest of this evening and I can't take it into my building at work so it will sit in the car for 8 hours. So the only BT usage will be the 20 minute drive to work in the morning. We will see what happens. Thanks for the input and if anyone sees anything wrong with the screen shots I posted, let me know.
I see it says no signal, no data connection 100%. That'll definitely kill your battery trying to get service. Now in other scree shots it seems you have plenty of wifi and cell, so why does BBS think you're out of range?? Interesting.
Also, weather bug seems to be very very high usage. Try uninstalling it. I know that Google Play services location scanning sometimes utilizes Bluetooth to try to determine location. That might be the major drain since WeatherBug is always checking for location.
robn30 said:
Here is my new screen shots. If someone notices something glaringly bad, let me know. Thanks.
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eregev said:
I see it says no signal, no data connection 100%. That'll definitely kill your battery trying to get service. Now in other scree shots it seems you have plenty of wifi and cell, so why does BBS think you're out of range?? Interesting.
Also, weather bug seems to be very very high usage. Try uninstalling it. I know that Google Play services location scanning sometimes utilizes Bluetooth to try to determine location. That might be the major drain since WeatherBug is always checking for location.
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I was thinking the No Signal thing might have been because I was on WiFi. Although I know my cell signal is still active just not the LTE data connection. I noticed it to but just didn't know how to correctly analyze it properly. I guess I will check in again tomorrow and report my results. If it's still bad I think I will do a factory reset and install only the essential app's to start and then the others to see if it's an app that is causing the problem. Could be quite a painstaking process.
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I was thinking the No Signal thing might have been because I was on WiFi. Although I know my cell signal is still active just not the LTE data connection. I noticed it to but just didn't know how to correctly analyze it properly. I guess I will check in again tomorrow and report my results. If it's still bad I think I will do a factory reset and install only the essential app's to start and then the others to see if it's an app that is causing the problem. Could be quite a painstaking process.
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Ahh, the LTE/WIFI thing makes a lot of sense: I agree with your assumption. I really think that weatherbug should be eliminated for your test tomorrow. Best case it's the culprit, worst case you're still going to wipe/add apps one by one as your next step.
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Ahh, the LTE/WIFI thing makes a lot of sense: I agree with your assumption. I really think that weatherbug should be eliminated for your test tomorrow. Best case it's the culprit, worst case you're still going to wipe/add apps one by one as your next step.
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So here are my results from the last 21+ hours. I have not used the phone much at all. I think one call has been placed during this time period. My SOT is minimal but still after deleting two of my three paired Bluetooth devices, things are looking much better. Still a fair amount of Bluetooth usage but not 20% like before. I think it may have been my computer that was causing the problem. Phone might have been continually trying to negotiate a connection with it even though I wasn't transferring files or anything. Here are the screen shots.
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So here are my results from the last 21+ hours. I have not used the phone much at all. I think one call has been placed during this time period. My SOT is minimal but still after deleting two of my three paired Bluetooth devices, things are looking much better. Still a fair amount of Bluetooth usage but not 20% like before. I think it may have been my computer that was causing the problem. Phone might have been continually trying to negotiate a connection with it even though I wasn't transferring files or anything. Here are the screen shots.
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Well, that's a dramatic difference. Didn't know you had it paired to a computer. I don't know about Mac, but windows has historically always tried staying connected to my phone just in case I wanted to us it as a modem. It also didn't use any low power Bluetooth like the 360 does. I agree, I think the pc was your battery thief.
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Well, that's a dramatic difference. Didn't know you had it paired to a computer. I don't know about Mac, but windows has historically always tried staying connected to my phone just in case I wanted to us it as a modem. It also didn't use any low power Bluetooth like the 360 does. I agree, I think the pc was your battery thief.
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I think it certainly wasn't helping the situation that's for sure. I am still seeing quite a large battery drain from Bluetooth. I am still on the charge from nearly two days ago but the BT is still number 2 on the usage list. So I must have an app that is doing something. Is there an easy way that I could track down that app? I hate to perform a factory reset and have to re-setup my phone all over again. Here the few screen shots I took earlier. Shows my BT usage compared to SOT over nearly 2 days on a single charge.