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Strange Battery Issue

I've had my phone for about a week now(att unrooted) and experienced something very strange this morning. I fully charged the phone at around 5:30 last night and used he phone very moderately. At around 11:30 pm uploaded 3 photos on my google drive and the battery was 80-90%. Woke up this morning and the battery was dead. This is totally out of the ordinary because I never experienced this before even with my old and buggy captivate. Keep in mind that I was on wifi and the phone is not yet rooted. Has anyone else noticed anything like this?

That is strange. Honestly, I dunno what could cause it besides some random app that you installed.

i say download a battery calibrator and then go from there

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i say download a battery calibrator and then go from there
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Battery Calibrator won't do anything.
Install Better Battery Stats, and when your phone turns on after plugging it in, see what was using the most power. It won't work for the first time but will work in the future.

Even better uninstall ****ty apps and disable notifications on this like word with friends, scramble with friends, etc. Go into app manager and disable everything you don't use. Report back in a week.
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I've had the phone for 5 days and gone through maybe 8 batt cycles. I'm not getting more than 2hrs screen time on any cycle. This is stupidly horrible battery life. There has got to be something severely wrong. I don't do much with the phone. I can't even with less than 2hrs to work with. Overnight batt loss is maybe 8%.
Any help is ENORMOUSLY appreciated.
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I was able to reproduce something similar. I opened up market\play to do a few updates and once the update process started, I put the phone down on my desk. Updates installed and the screen remained turned on. Now, I don't remember the exact steps or what other apps were running in the background. All I know is that the screen remained on for a few minutes until I manually turned it off.
This could very well be a bug in Samsung's face\image recognition software that handles smart stay. It might be a bug in google play, a faulty app or a combination of things... Because the battery on this phone is actually quite amazing. I unplugged my phone this morning, went to work, updated a bunch of apps, saved local maps to google maps, hung out on facebook, surfed the web... and after 10.5 hours, I still have more than 50% battery left.
That's a good indication that what I'm experiencing is a software glitch of some kind that if left un-attended, could completely drain your battery.

Try turning battery saver on and check pretty much everything in there. Disable smart stay. Manually turn off your screen when you're not using it. Turn off GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi when you're not using it. Some downloads hang in the Play store if you "update all"... cancel these and download them one at a time. Do not just assume it all went to plan.
These tips on combination with my first post should help. You should get 4 hours of screen time with some phone calls in a single charge. I find certain apps like Scramble with friends chug charge faster than things like reading xda. Chrome for instance on the PC is less battery friendly and more resources intensive than IE. Perhaps the same is true for the mobile version.
There are way too many variables for us to pick out what your underlying issue may be. Start eliminating things and we'll keep throwing out new ideas. Good luck!
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My phones battery increased off of the charger. Anyone else having this happen? It jumped from 77 to 78 so idk what's going on.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...ii-cell-standby-power-drain-issue-identified/

I just posted a pretty good size list of apps that can be disabled. That helps save battery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740228

I have managed to narrow it down.
- I had 2 updates in market. I pressed update all.
- screen turned off when the first update was almost done.
- I pressed the power key and entered my pass to turn the screen on and left the phone on my desk.
- I kept seeing the smart stay icon, but the screen remained on.
- I moved phone without touching the screen...no change.
- held my hand over the camera at a distance of a few inches and the screen finally dimmed out.
This happened while google play had focus. This is a bug in smart stay or google play.

Somethings definitely up, this battery life is as bad if not worse than my epic 4g.
Did notice one thing... I cleared memory and it said 51 applications closed.... I don't even think i have that many applications on the phone!
Memory eats up a lot of power.

itisagoodname said:
Somethings definitely up, this battery life is as bad if not worse than my epic 4g.
Did notice one thing... I cleared memory and it said 51 applications closed.... I don't even think i have that many applications on the phone!
Memory eats up a lot of power.
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You're the second person I found that has the same problem as me! I can't even get 2hrs screen time through my day to day. The same day to day that my atrix was giving me 3.5hrs on.
I feel better knowing that I'm not doing something wrong, but could the phone just have that horrible of battery life and all these reports are a fanboi lie with review articles just copying each other?

I'm so glad im not the only one experiencing all of this! Lol, i upgraded from my mytouch 4G, i DID notice smart stay would come on at random times, sometimes when i wasnt even looking at my phone lol, disabled it & disabled a whole bunch of other crap & like many others & i dont get 4 hours screen time, more like 2 which sucks, id also like to have my data on all the time (but im forced to turn it off to save battery ), im rooted & ive uninstalled w.e crap i didnt need/want or felt it was just running for no reason. I'm doing the exact same battery steps i did with my mytouch & its sad =/ i was hoping i wouldnt have to do half of the ones im doing now, i LOVE my S3 but samsung needs to figure out wth is goin on & same with the guy who talked about if the articles r lying) i saw one on tech radar yesterday on battery life on the S3, they r either lying or they got a good phone in a good batch, smh, also experience my screen flickers from time to time while texting (i always close background processes) i notice blotches on the screen while texting at night or in the dark also, again i love my phone but u know, id love to have my data on constantly to check things quick without my battery going down drastically when i barely even touch it =/

I too have strange battery life. I usually leave my phone charging over night. When I unplug the battery in the morning, I lose about 10% every hour. However, when I get to around 80%, I recharge it again and it loses battery at a MUCH slower rate. Around 2% every hour on stand by. I'm not sure why this happens, but it does.
Also, there are some instances when I pick up the phone and it's pretty warm. Even though it's been sitting idle for about 20 min. Then there are times when I pick it up and it's normal room temperature. This leads me to believe that there are some processes going on while my phone is idle. I'm trying to find out what apps are causing this, as I believe it is causing my battery to drain while idle. It's very inconsistent, which is making it hard to track down. I don't even have a lot of apps installed. Most of it is actually the bloatware that came with my phone
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JayFReaZy said:
I too have strange battery life. I usually leave my phone charging over night. When I unplug the battery in the morning, I lose about 10% every hour. However, when I get to around 80%, I recharge it again and it loses battery at a MUCH slower rate. Around 2% every hour on stand by. I'm not sure why this happens, but it does.
Also, there are some instances when I pick up the phone and it's pretty warm. Even though it's been sitting idle for about 20 min. Then there are times when I pick it up and it's normal room temperature. This leads me to believe that there are some processes going on while my phone is idle. I'm trying to find out what apps are causing this, as I believe it is causing my battery to drain while idle. It's very inconsistent, which is making it hard to track down. I don't even have a lot of apps installed. Most of it is actually the bloatware that came with my phone
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I am starting to think it's ATT's LTE connection. I randomly have days where my battery won't make it until 5 pm without really using it very often. Other days, the phone goes all day with 4 hours plus of screen time no problem. On the really bad days, the phone will stay warm despite me closing every app with task manager. I am now experimenting with turning off mobile data (not a permanent solution), and the phone is cool to the touch again. It may be that the phone is burning up the battery in areas where the LTE connection is weak.

Pivo99 said:
My phones battery increased off of the charger. Anyone else having this happen? It jumped from 77 to 78 so idk what's going on.
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Mine did this as well I think it went up 3-4%.

Battery saving tips

I am gonna copy paste a thread I made for the t989 s2. It's all universal advice.
Yes... Root is required for a lot of this.
A nandroid backup first is a good idea.
Lots of this is common knowledge, but maybe not to some newer Android users.... So here it is.
About the only moto x specific thing I can add is freeze all that motorola stuff. Even the com.motorola stuff. If you really want active display.... Keep it, I did. I went a few days without touch less control and now it's back on. Gonna see if my battery gets effected. If you're not sure what some of this com. Motorola stuff is, you can google it.
So.....2 things I personally think work best to solve battery draining issues.
1. GSAM from playstore. It will tell you what apps are draining your battery...the top of the app list will be your main culprits. Then you need to find out why? You can check what apps are waking your phone and for how long. Gsam can tell you a lot if you play around with it and see what it can show you.
2. Cpuspy, also from play store. A simple yet easy way to see if your phone is deep sleeping. Deep sleep should pretty much be your total up time....minus screen on time. Roughly. If it isn't, or you have no deep sleep time.....back to gsam to find out why.
Once you narrow down the app culprits ....then you can search on why.
One last huge thing I personally have done for a long time now....reboot after you unplug from charger. Every single time. This used to be a fix for not getting deep sleep....and I think it still is a good practice. (This doesn't really seem necessary on my X)
That's it. 2 apps and you can post your battery draining questions with a lot more info than simply saying..."hey....my battery life sucks."
Cause 9.5 times out of 10.....it has nothing to do with the rom you are using. Usually anyway.
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A couple other things.
Comparing our total battery time with each other is pointless and meaningless. You can drain your phone from 100 to zero in 3 hours playing certain games, or it can last 30 hours cause you barely touched it. The only reasonable comparison is screen on time. Period. Tho it can alter greatly as well. 3 hours screen time on a 3d game, or 7 hours watching movies. 5 or more mostly texting and browsing......but still, its a better way to compare.
Gps is a battery destroyer. Some people leave it on...and certain apps will use it whenever you open them.
Screen brightness is a huge factor.
Task killers usually do more harm than good. Personally I only use greenify, and only for apps I know drain batteries a lot. Like maps. If maps is part of the rom....I convert it to a user app with titanium backup and greenify it. Canada's weather network app is a battery hog. Greenify. Basically anything that tops my list with more than 10 percent in gsam gets greenified. My wife used to use Facebook app....I got her using the browser. The app sucked her battery and data sometimes. No....no notification now, but she's on it a lot....her eyeballs are her notification. 
Juice defender....great for very light users....a battery waster for medium to heavy users. Turning wifi and data on and off 200 times a day will kill more battery than it saves. Ever see the amount of times juice defender wakes your phone? LOL. I got as high as 1000 before I deleted it. Gsam told me that!
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Here's the link to my S2 thread if anyone wants to read the discussions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461864
And this screen shot is my credentials. Lol
I have always got good battery life on any phone or rom... Cause it's my number one concern and all my attention goes to good battery life before anything else. It's also why I got the moto x over the G2..... I saw the battery life that some Moto X users were getting and it is right up there with average G2 battery life times. And I think the moto x is the better built phone.
Good luck!!
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kj2112 said:
Here's the link to my S2 thread if anyone wants to read the discussions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461864
And this screen shot is my credentials. Lol
I have always got good battery life on any phone or rom... Cause it's my number one concern and all my attention goes to good battery life before anything else. It's also why I got the moto x over the G2..... I saw the battery life that some Moto X users were getting and it is right up there with average G2 battery life times. And I think the moto x is the better built phone.
Good luck!!
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are you on jellybean?

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are you on jellybean?
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Yup, 4.2.2 stock
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GSAM won't work on 4.4 without a helper app, which requires root. Android removed the ability to see battery stats without root. I love GSAM and installed the root helper.
As for location services, I use App Ops (and now App Opps X that I'm rooted) to remove the location privileges for certain apps as I do leave my GPS enabled at all times and monitor what apps actually use it. I'm fine with ones that poll it like once an hour or something, but I had an app that used about 45 minutes of GPS lock when I hadn't even run the app since reboot. I disabled location access for that app with App Ops and it's fine now.
I also have a root app called Disable Service which lets you stop services for a given user or system app.
All of these things I described do require root. Although App Ops can be used without root, it can do more with it.

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Gps is a battery destroyer. Some people leave it on...and certain apps will use it whenever you open them.
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I leave high accuracy GPS on all the time, and have done so with all phones I've had with that option. I checked battery life with it enabled and with GPS off unless needed, and there was no appreciable change in battery life by turning GPS off. I haven't tested this on newer phones, but it was this way with my Fascinate. Considering Android does much better with managing sensors now, hardware has improved greatly, and the Fascinate was one of the worse phones for GPS ever, if a battery issue was going to happen, that was the phone to have it with.

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I leave high accuracy GPS on all the time, and have done so with all phones I've had with that option. I checked battery life with it enabled and with GPS off unless needed, and there was no appreciable change in battery life by turning GPS off. I haven't tested this on newer phones, but it was this way with my Fascinate. Considering Android does much better with managing sensors now, hardware has improved greatly, and the Fascinate was one of the worse phones for GPS ever, if a battery issue was going to happen, that was the phone to have it with.
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I also leave my GPS toggled "on" all the time (I use Power Control widget). It is actually only in use when it shows the GPS icon in the notification area, and I only look into it when it's on and I'm not using a location based app. If I find a problem I remove that app or disable the location services as mentioned in my previous post in this thread.
No real difference for me on battery life either, unless there is an offending app going crazy.

I'm willing to bet that on 4.4 with Google apps being even more integrated in the OS... That location services will shave at least some noticeable Battery life. Maybe not with an app as mentioned above, where you have control over what used gps. I'm on 4.2.2, but I'd be curious to see screen shots on 4.4...or even 4.2.2, of a full battery cycle with location services on.... And one off.
I know on my s2, if I forgot and left Gps on a while, it would eat my battery at least a 3rd quicker. Perhaps I had an app that abused gps, but it was pretty ugly anyway. Lol
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Oh.... I guess without gsam... Screen shot won't be as useful. Lol
Another reason I'm sticking with 4.2.2.
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Turn off "scanning allows available while wifi is off", its under WiFi advance settings, scans for WiFi even if your WiFi is off, I don't know who and why that is even a setting but it is
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battery saver tips
kj2112 said:
I am gonna copy paste a thread I made for the t989 s2. It's all universal advice.
Yes... Root is required for a lot of this.
A nandroid backup first is a good idea.
Lots of this is common knowledge, but maybe not to some newer Android users.... So here it is.
About the only moto x specific thing I can add is freeze all that motorola stuff. Even the com.motorola stuff. If you really want active display.... Keep it, I did. I went a few days without touch less control and now it's back on. Gonna see if my battery gets effected. Of your not sure what some of this com. Motorola stuff is, you can google it.
So.....2 things I personally think work best to solve battery draining issues.
1. GSAM from playstore. It will tell you what apps are draining your battery...the top of the app list will be your main culprits. Then you need to find out why? You can check what apps are waking your phone and for how long. Gsam can tell you a lot if you play around with it and see what it can show you.
2. Cpuspy, also from play store. A simple yet easy way to see if your phone is deep sleeping. Deep sleep should pretty much be your total up time....minus screen on time. Roughly. If it isn't, or you have no deep sleep time.....back to gsam to find out why.
Once you narrow down the app culprits ....then you can search on why.
One last huge thing I personally have done for a long time now....reboot after you unplug from charger. Every single time. This used to be a fix for not getting deep sleep....and I think it still is a good practice.
That's it. 2 apps and you can post your battery draining questions with a lot more info than simply saying..."hey....my battery life sucks."
Cause 9.5 times out of 10.....it has nothing to do with the rom you are using. Usually anyway.
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Thanks for the info... I will try this one...
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CPU spy shows only 13% deep sleeping.
I don't have root. How can I hunt down where the battery goes? Thanks

redhonker said:
CPU spy shows only 13% deep sleeping.
I don't have root. How can I hunt down where the battery goes? Thanks
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Are you on 4.2.2. If so... Gsam will tell you.
Apparently if your on 4.4....you have to be rooted.
Kinda seems google is slowly trying to be like iPhone... And not let you do stuff unless you are rooted. Lol
But you should be around or over 80 percent deep sleep. If not.... You have an issue. And 13 percent.... You have a big issue.
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The best battery tip would be to download GravityBox and enabling "Solid Black Display". Being that the screen is AMOLED, you're saving loads of battery without sacrificing anything.

flashallthetime said:
Turn off "scanning allows available while wifi is off", its under WiFi advance settings, scans for WiFi even if your WiFi is off, I don't know who and why that is even a setting but it is
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If you read the differences between 4.3 and 4.4, you'll notice what it is for. Google implemented the change to improve location accuracy with minimal effects on the battery. From my experience, while it looks like wifi is on all the time, it doesn't really do anything to battery life, but vastly improves location accuracy and lock time. So far, I've done next to nothing suggested in this thread, and I'm still coming home from work with about the same battery % remaining as I did on my Note 2. The best part is that my phone is probably doing more to affect battery life, but actually using less.

One thing I didn't say in my opening posts was that if someone is having trouble with battery life.... Do all this stuff... Then one at a time bring back things you miss... If one of them impacts your battery more than you care for.... You'll know what app or feature it is.
Everyone has different battery expectations and needs.... Some of my suggestions may seem too extreme for some people, or not at all for others.
I do everything I posted. I personally want every extra minute of screen time I can get.... But that's just me. Everyone has their own needs. I still enjoy my phone immensely... And use the functions I want for myself.... And see 5 to 6 hour screen times every charge. If some of my cuts are too much for some... That's totally understandable.
Btw.... I don't care for touch less control.... But with it on.... I pretty much lose one hour screen time. Luckily it's not a feature I care about... So it's off. Just an FYI.
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kj2112 said:
Are you on 4.2.2. If so... Gsam will tell you.
Apparently if your on 4.4....you have to be rooted.
Kinda seems google is slowly trying to be like iPhone... And not let you do stuff unless you are rooted. Lol
But you should be around or over 80 percent deep sleep. If not.... You have an issue. And 13 percent.... You have a big issue.
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Yeah, I am on 4.4, not rooted.
59% at 384 MHz
What are the Motorola services that I should disable?
I've gone through Apps Ops and disabled wake-lock on almost all apps. Any other ways to find out what's behind the scene?
Thanks

Battery Woes - Help and ideas welcomed!!!

So I have had my S5 for a week now and my batt life is aweful. Yet I hear everyone saying its awesome...
Here is my setup. Nova Launcher, Wifi always on, but disable scanning and set it to only keep on while sleep if plugged in. Bluetooth always on, I use it 3 hours a day. So need it....
GPS always on, High accuracy...
Brightness in the middle and set to auto.
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rmd0311 said:
So I have had my S5 for a week now and my batt life is aweful. Yet I hear everyone saying its awesome...
Here is my setup. Nova Launcher, Wifi always on, but disable scanning and set it to only keep on while sleep if plugged in. Bluetooth always on, I use it 3 hours a day. So need it....
GPS always on, High accuracy...
Brightness in the middle and set to auto.
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I disabled print services and my battery life improved.
Settings > printing > turn both off.
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What's your screen time
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What's your screen time
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15 seconds.
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15 seconds, changed at 88% today.
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That's it. Just 15 seconds. Something is running on three background or you have a DOA device
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There's something wrong with the camera on these phones. After I open up the camera or snapchat, my battery drains fast. The phone doesn't go into deep sleep after closing camera apps. I restart my phone multiple times per day, but my battery drains at 2-4%/hrs with a couple hours screen on per day.
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There's something wrong with the camera on these phones. After I open up the camera or snapchat, my battery drains fast. The phone doesn't go into deep sleep after closing camera apps. I restart my phone multiple times per day, but my battery drains at 2-4%/hrs with a couple hours screen on per day.
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What's your total usage for the day
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Don't get me wrong. 16 hours is great compared to other phones in the past. Tomorrow I will try setting gps to power saver and only changing to high accuracy when needed.
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What's your total usage for the day
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Last 100-8% took 40 hours with almost 5 hours screen time. Neither power save modes were on. I had WiFi 70% of the time, with a decent 4G signal otherwise. This is 2-3 times what I get if I use my camera without restarting my phone.
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This should be posted in q&a not general
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I have a similar set up as you. I keep BT always on and GPS always on w/ high accuracy, turning BT off doesn't do much to the battery life imo.
The absolutely biggest difference for me was to go into location settings and hit Google Location Reporting and turn off location reporting and history. Also turn off geo-tag for the camera, and locations setting on FB.

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What's your screen time
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I'm sorry I thought you were asking how long I had my time out for. Re reading now I see you were asking about. How long the screen was on. End of day was like 3 hours.
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I have GPS on accuracy and use Firefox. I watch YouTube videos and all that. Sounds like a major issue.
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I have GPS on accuracy and use Firefox. I watch YouTube videos and all that. Sounds like a major issue.
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Did you make any changes at all?

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Did you make any changes at all?
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I did disable every Verizon / pre-installed application I could. I keep brightness at auto. I keep wifi off at all times because I have unlimited data. Stock on this phone is pretty impressive.
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Maybe I am nuts... But does the charging cable matter... I'm not using the OEM one, never bother to take it out of the box... Using a basic microusb cable from my previous phone that was already there. Maybe that sounds crazy...

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Maybe I am nuts... But does the charging cable matter... I'm not using the OEM one, never bother to take it out of the box... Using a basic microusb cable from my previous phone that was already there. Maybe that sounds crazy...
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It shouldn't matter. For what its worth, I'm not seeing anywhere close to what others have posted in terms of battery longevity. I use bluetooth for everything. Car stereo, bathroom speaker, gym headphones, etc. Wifi is always on, but connected 80% of the time. GPS rarely on. Screen time doesn't push past 2 hours and I can BARELY get about 1 day of battery life. I do use the stock charging cable, but I use others as well.
It seems like a big variance, even with drastic use differences.

xgerryx said:
It shouldn't matter. For what its worth, I'm not seeing anywhere close to what others have posted in terms of battery longevity. I use bluetooth for everything. Car stereo, bathroom speaker, gym headphones, etc. Wifi is always on, but connected 80% of the time. GPS rarely on. Screen time doesn't push past 2 hours and I can BARELY get about 1 day of battery life. I do use the stock charging cable, but I use others as well.
It seems like a big variance, even with drastic use differences.
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Battery life is ok for me I guess. It gets me through a day. I am not impressed by the battery life at all, probably because I was spoiled with my old MAXX. I still expected at least a few more hours but something in the background sucks battery. When root comes, I'm sure battery life will improve a bunch. Its also not that big of a deal because the back is removable. What stinks is this is my battery life with power saving enabled for over 1/2 of the day. I really do not understand how people were getting over 10 hours of screen time and this day and a half battery life. The only way I get that is if I charge it before bed and count those 12 hours towards my battery life and I still wouldn't break 24 hours.
Maybe I'm missing something?
GPS is battery saving, print services are disabled, screen timeout at 15 seconds, screen is at auto brightness with adapt display, power saving enabled most of the time, wifi and 4g bounce between whichever is better, network mode is LTE/CDMA and I have disabled a ton of bloat. Maybe its because I have ART enabled.
Definitely not impressed by battery life but I am a heavy user and I love that you can swap batteries.

What does 'power saving mode' do? I can clearly see what 'ultra power saving mode does', but I was wondering if anyone knew what regular power saving mode does? I tried searching the Q&A forum but didn't find much and Googling it just led me to a bunch of pages touting the ultra power saving mode. Thanks in advance!

Idle Battery Drain

So I was posting some info in another thread but I figured I would make my own thread for it. It seems like the power consumption at idle might be the cause for the "not as good as expected" battery life. For example my G3 will sit off the charger for 4 hours without being used and still be at 100%, the Turbo loses 6% in that time. The G3 has a 3000mAH Battery and I could easily get 24h of off the charger time on the G3. My question is what is killing the battery on the Turbo??? Its kinda hard to look over the battery stats when there is no root. Anyone have any input?

I think it's because of the wifi. I too have experienced crazy idle drain compared to my G2 and it's really making me regret getting this phone. It seems like they just slapped the kitkat ROM together and didn't really care to test it very well because Lollipop is coming out so soon.

It's definitely draining at idle more than usual or should be, I agree. I don't think it is WiFi related though, or at least not enough to be the main problem. I could be wrong of course. I have also not experience any WiFi or Bluetooth issues whatsoever and I use a Moto 360 all day, every day.
I am currently on my 4th charge cycle since acquiring the 64GB BN model. It's been powered on for 7h 32m and I'm sitting at 78% with 1hr 18m SoT. That's with heavy usage and taking quite a bit of pictures & video during this mornings product demo presentations at work.
Hardly anything for me personally to complain about. I'm sure they will optimize it. I'm almost certain than Android L 5.0 will make this phone a true beast.
Time will tell.

are you leaving gps or high accuracy location settings on?

I have the same issue as the OP. My G3 lost very little battery life when idling. I've attempted shutting down email accounts, turning off location and selectively removing apps in hopes of determining the cause of the drain...without success. This could be a deal breaker if we don't get some type of root exploit soon.

Well this sucks. I was going to get the Turbo but now I'm going to wait and see what happens with this drain issue. Maybe 5.0 will fix it.

I have been using the same settings that I did on my G3, Auto brightness, Location OFF and Auto Sync. Glad I'm not the only one noticing it too, I think its all in the build of Kit Kat they put on this phone, hopefully L comes out soon.

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So I was posting some info in another thread but I figured I would make my own thread for it. It seems like the power consumption at idle might be the cause for the "not as good as expected" battery life. For example my G3 will sit off the charger for 4 hours without being used and still be at 100%, the Turbo loses 6% in that time. The G3 has a 3000mAH Battery and I could easily get 24h of off the charger time on the G3. My question is what is killing the battery on the Turbo??? Its kinda hard to look over the battery stats when there is no root. Anyone have any input?
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How about you start by posting screenshots of your battery stats from System...Battery
I don't have any issues whatsoever.

Well once I figure out how to do that I will post it, but in the mean time what phone were you coming from? A few people have agreed in this post that the battery life is worse @ idle then the G3 so its not just me.
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Well once I figure out how to do that I will post it, but in the mean time what phone were you coming from? A few people have agreed in this post that the battery life is worse @ idle then the G3 so its not just me.
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Well G3 could be out of box, not trying to argue wanted to understand what your problem was. If you press the graph you'll see more details on what is using batteries (awake vs screen on, cell signal etc) and more in Android System if you go into that screen.
Overall what your getting .. 1-2% is not a big deal to me and beauty of the massive battery is you don't have to worry about but if really wanted to you could improve by turning off stuff you don't need or even automating it.
FWIW I'm coming from a GS3 with a tiny battery but even that phone lasted 5 days idling with the right setting for my use case (cell radio off / WiFi on). With Turbo just disabled some apps I didn't need and don't even think about it any more. I do have complaints about the Turbo but battery is definitely not one of them.

I'm interested in this as well. I bought my turbo yesterday evening and it had a pretty good charge (>80%) out of the box. I played with it for much of the evening and copied ~8gb of data to the phone via wifi. When I went to bed battery was at 60%, when I woke up it was 46%. I noticed that my third biggest battery use is command center, so I disabled auto-location in that app. I'm hoping to have better results on my first full charge.

Yeah I agree, but its literally the same settings I ran of my G3. I think I'm just gonna return it between the weak wifi and cell signal, and the camera it's just not worth it if the battery life isn't better then my G3

I've been posting in the other battery life thread... but to summarize, I'm going to be doing some thorough testing over the next 24/48 hours (currently ongoing).
I have already noticed significant improvements in my battery life. Has mentioned in the other thread. I'll be making a detailed post on Friday evening with my results.
I may also, from time to time post some of my progress, as I already have an understanding as to one of the issues involved with the so called "idle drain" everyone is referring to, and it is NOT WiFi.
Keep your eyes on that thread here.

Thanks, I'm pretty good with understanding wake locks, I just don't know where to start without root since most the stats in BB require it. I'm intrested to see what you come up with. I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.

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I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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Is there a hard date for the nexus?
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I've been posting in the other battery life thread... but to summarize, I'm going to be doing some thorough testing over the next 24/48 hours (currently ongoing).
I have already noticed significant improvements in my battery life. Has mentioned in the other thread. I'll be making a detailed post on Friday evening with my results.
I may also, from time to time post some of my progress, as I already have an understanding as to one of the issues involved with the so called "idle drain" everyone is referring to.
Keep your eyes on that thread here.
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Very interested in what you come up with, thanks!

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Thanks, I'm pretty good with understanding wake locks, I just don't know where to start without root since most the stats in BB require it. I'm intrested to see what you come up with. I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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Well you are limited with what you can do but I already gave you a start in my post, maybe you missed it. The only insight you will have without root (for tools like Better Battery Stats) is looking into all the info you can get out of Settings..Battery. There you can see wake locks vs screen on time and other stats like cell signal / wifi status etc. Then you can also dive into your biggest usage, for you it looks like it is Android System. They will list system services that are classified here. For example, you'll see the moto features are part of this. If you don't want to dig you can wait for Andromjb's updates
Overall I wouldn't base your decision to return the Turbo based on the battery -- base it on your other problems it sounds like you're having with wifi signal etc. That sounds like reason enough for a return. If you're ok with the larger size of the Nexus 6 then to me it's a no brainer to go with that instead of Droid Turbo since they are almost identical in terms of hardware.

For those that are getting battery drain, did you disable all of the verizon apps? There are some 20+ apps that are constantly running in the background and will drain your battery(even after i did a factory reset, these apps were sending data despite me never having opened them). Disable those, restart, then see if things change over the next cycle. I got 2d9hr31m and 4hr23 min of SOT(minimal usage) and was at 13%; this was on the first charge.

Could this drain be due to some of the sensors used for notifications. Doesn't the turbo have the feature where you stick your hand over it and it shows the notifications? If this is the case, wouldn't those sensors have to stay on?

Yeah I have 27 apps disabled and it really didn't make a difference for me like it has in the past, their must be something killing the battery on this 30m of screen time and I'm at 79% shouldn't be happening.

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Yeah I have 27 apps disabled and it really didn't make a difference for me like it has in the past, their must be something killing the battery on this 30m of screen time and I'm at 79% shouldn't be happening.
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Thats actually really interesting. I haven't been experiencing anything like that. Perhaps try doing a factory reset then disabling them again. That's the only thing I did differently. Perhaps it's just a bad device? I'm already at 2hrs screen time, heavy downloading(off line apps), and have been on battery for 1d8hr- still at 45%. Is there anything in the battery stats? Wake locks perhaps?

Battery Life on Recent Nougat OTA

Question.. How is everyone else's battery life been so far on Android N? Mine has been atrocious and it's mainly due to Bluetooth. I did a clean install by flashing the recent google image (MTC20F) in ADB then enrolling my Nexus in the beta program and getting the N OTA. I charged my phone to 100% then left for the gym around 5am, got home at 7:40am and my battery is down to 46% from just listening to Pandora, Spotify via bluetooth. Here are some screenshots.. I was getting significantly better battery life on Pure Nexus Rom.. Also, I am stock and not rooted or using any custom tweaks. It's 100% Stock
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Question.. How is everyone else's battery life been so far on Android N? Mine has been atrocious and it's mainly due to Bluetooth. I did a clean install by flashing the recent google image (MTC20F) in ADB then enrolling my Nexus in the beta program and getting the N OTA. I charged my phone to 100% then left for the gym around 5am, got home at 7:40am and my battery is down to 46% from just listening to Pandora, Spotify via bluetooth. Here are some screenshots.. I was getting significantly better battery life on Pure Nexus Rom..
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Try installing the EX kernel and disabling touchboost under the CPU settings. I get ~40 hours battery life with normal usage. If you tweaked the settings i am sure you would get 2 days easy.

First cycle is today. Doing good...
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Mine is doing the exact same thing as the op's. Bluetooth is just killing the battery too but I am on stock, not rooted or anything. I went from 89% to 26% in a span of 3 hours with Bluetooth and Spotify on in my car and at the gym. I have taken out almost all 3rd party apps, which seems to have helped but this morning as the Bluetooth was on (for Spotify and Waze) during my commute to work, it went right down to 75% from 100% in a span of 45 minutes and that's with the screen OFF. On Android M, the most it had gone down to was to 88%. 75% is ridiculous.
With Bluetooth off, the phone seems to be doing OK ? Android OS and Android System are eating up the battery.
I will do the factory reset tonight and hope for the best but this is the worst battery life I've ever seen on my phone.

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First cycle is today. Doing good... View attachment 3853114
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Great.... So N does not fix whatever the hell bug started in MM with Android system and os.
That's not good news..
Thanks for reports though.
Keep them coming.

meboy said:
Great.... So N does not fix whatever the hell bug started in MM with Android system and os.
That's not good news..
Thanks for reports though.
Keep them coming.
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What issue?
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What issue?
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There is a thread for just about every phone that has MM.
Look around for Android System and Android OS.
Not in LP.

I don't know what Bluetooth and android system/os issues you are mentioning, but I did a clean stock restore with factory images from Pure Nexus then took the OTA through system update, all was good, did a factory data reset, pushed twrp 3.0.2-1 then then supersu 2.76 and took most of the Google stuff I don't use out.
No issues what's so ever. Battery is great. I'm losing about 10% battery for every 45-50 min sot. And the new doze is working flawlessly. I lost 1% battery overnight in 7.5 hours. Yesterday Gsam battery monitor showed my phone was in light or deep doze in 7:20 out over 9.5 hours of charge with 2 hours sot.
I'm only rooted with some debloat and TiBu and battery apps gsam and wakelock detector

It's not BT guys. It's your music streaming. Bet if you moved to an app that uses on board music and tested it you would find you have better battery life.

I'm stock and not rooted with any mods.. Just find it weird.. On PN Rom my battery life was fantastic with Elemental X Kernel..
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Mine is doing the exact same thing as the op's. Bluetooth is just killing the battery too but I am on stock, not rooted or anything. I went from 89% to 26% in a span of 3 hours with Bluetooth and Spotify on in my car and at the gym. I have taken out almost all 3rd party apps, which seems to have helped but this morning as the Bluetooth was on (for Spotify and Waze) during my commute to work, it went right down to 75% from 100% in a span of 45 minutes and that's with the screen OFF. On Android M, the most it had gone down to was to 88%. 75% is ridiculous.
With Bluetooth off, the phone seems to be doing OK ? Android OS and Android System are eating up the battery.
I will do the factory reset tonight and hope for the best but this is the worst battery life I've ever seen on my phone.
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I went back to all stock and non rooted.. Wanted to just try N pure without any mods but I guess that might have to change.
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Try installing the EX kernel and disabling touchboost under the CPU settings. I get ~40 hours battery life with normal usage. If you tweaked the settings i am sure you would get 2 days easy.
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I don't think that's the issue seeing as how you can download your spotify playlist to your phone which I do.. Not to mention in my screenshot, Spotify wasn't the root of the issue, the Bluetooth was at 20%.. Nothing else was close..
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It's not BT guys. It's your music streaming. Bet if you moved to an app that uses on board music and tested it you would find you have better battery life.
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XavierD8188 said:
I don't think that's the issue seeing as how you can download your spotify playlist to your phone which I do.. Not to mention in my screenshot, Spotify wasn't the root of the issue, the Bluetooth was at 20%.. Nothing else was close..
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Look at the cell connection. There are 2 major factors normally to battery drain. 1. SOT and 2. Cell connectivity. As an example. It doesnt matter how big of a battery I use or the device. I can easily kill the battery on any phone within 4 hours without even touching it due to cell signal.

Normally I would agree with you but in the screenshots I posted (not sure why they're so small), my SOT was only 16 mins and my LTE connection was at full strength. I never had these issues when I was using Pure Nexus Rom and I was using that ROM since October of last year with the same exact setup and haven't moved from my current apt.. Literally haven't done anything differently from that Rom to Nougat and for some reason, bluetooth is killing my battery. In the pics I posted where it shows what's eating battery, it was at 20% and the next thing was 9%.. Spotify was at 3% and Pandora was around 3%..
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Look at the cell connection. There are 2 major factors normally to battery drain. 1. SOT and 2. Cell connectivity. As an example. It doesnt matter how big of a battery I use or the device. I can easily kill the battery on any phone within 4 hours without even touching it due to cell signal.
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Normally I would agree with you but in the screenshots I posted (not sure why they're so small), my SOT was only 16 mins and my LTE connection was at full strength. I never had these issues when I was using Pure Nexus Rom and I was using that ROM since October of last year with the same exact setup and haven't moved from my current apt.. Literally haven't done anything differently from that Rom to Nougat and for some reason, bluetooth is killing my battery. In the pics I posted where it shows what's eating battery, it was at 20% and the next thing was 9%.. Spotify was at 3% and Pandora was around 3%..
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Custom roms change how things work like that. Like I noticed on a few roms they will throttle the data when the device is off.
Those stats really are kinda misleading. What ever you use the most will always be at top. No matter how much it uses. As an example. for 30 min say you use youtube the most and the next 30 you use spotify the most. You will see them swap off when you look at what is draining your battery.
Also you have to remember that with the new update many things have changed system wide. If it were me. I would pull a logcat. I dont have the official yet for my nexus 6 so still on the developer preview and I run BT all day long using power amp and it bearly touches the battery. Mind you that could just be issue with the 7.0 update which is why they are already working on 7.1 to be released in a few weeks.

Very good point.. I'll continue to monitor it over the next few days, if all else fails I will just go back to a custom rom and wait for 7.1... Thanks for the info
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Custom roms change how things work like that. Like I noticed on a few roms they will throttle the data when the device is off.
Those stats really are kinda misleading. What ever you use the most will always be at top. No matter how much it uses. As an example. for 30 min say you use youtube the most and the next 30 you use spotify the most. You will see them swap off when you look at what is draining your battery.
Also you have to remember that with the new update many things have changed system wide. If it were me. I would pull a logcat. I dont have the official yet for my nexus 6 so still on the developer preview and I run BT all day long using power amp and it bearly touches the battery. Mind you that could just be issue with the 7.0 update which is why they are already working on 7.1 to be released in a few weeks.
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Very good point.. I'll continue to monitor it over the next few days, if all else fails I will just go back to a custom rom and wait for 7.1... Thanks for the info
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Here is my current SS. Yes it is only a couple of hours but I connect my BT headset the min I wake up and it stays on all day long.

That's how mine was when I was using a custom rom.. Never saw Bluetooth on there before and I used it often as well.. Not sure what the issue is.. It's really weird
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Here is my current SS. Yes it is only a couple of hours but I connect my BT headset the min I wake up and it stays on all day long. View attachment 3854298
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That's how mine was when I was using a custom rom.. Never saw Bluetooth on there before and I used it often as well.. Not sure what the issue is.. It's really weird
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Grab a logcat. Did you take an OTA or do a full complete redo for the update? I am shooting in the dark myself really. Just suggesting what I would do. I also dont use streaming music apps. I keep all my music on device for many reasons.

I did a factory reset. Thought it fixed my Bluetooth drain as I had Spotify on and Waze while connected to my car this morning. Usually by the time I get to work after 45-50 minutes, I'd be down to 88% from 100% (with a few 3rd party apps installed). Thought it was fixed as I only went down to 96% for the duration of my commute (with minimal 3rd party apps installed).
However, the Bluetooth drain showed up again when I connected my Bluetooth headphones for use in the gym. The drain was not as drastic as I reported earlier. However, it still took up a nice chunk and Bluetooth again is sitting at the top of my battery usage list along with Android System and Android OS. The phone is at least acceptable now but I have no idea why it is draining as quickly now when it never used to do this before when I was on Android M. It's not like I changed my routine or usage habits.
Also, I am on stock, not rooted or anything so really not sure what is going on. Maybe I will just wait for a patch or something.