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So you can say not to install KNOX when prompted?

I've seen people mention that they are prompted to install KNOX. Is this true? Can you say no and go on without it? Will that hold any advantage later when it comes to the boot loader and custom roms (specifically AT&T and other locked versions). Thanks.

Yup, I want to know that too.

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I had asked designgears about this a couple days ago and he replied with this:
You are right about what Knox is, it is a container. Saying no on startup simply turns it off in the OS, no flags are changed. If you flash a custom kernel or recovery, the flags will be tripped, also flashing an old official firmware will trip them.
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So you won't trip the efuse by saying no to KNOX, but you won't have access to the container. Whether you can re-enable or allow it later on, I don't know, but I'd imagine you could.

skadude66 said:
I had asked designgears about this a couple days ago and he replied with this:
So you won't trip the efuse by saying no to KNOX, but you won't have access to the container. Whether you can re-enable or allow it later on, I don't know, but I'd imagine you could.
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Thanks for the information. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Honestly, I wish we had a choice in the matter. Still, it's not as bad as Apple (yet). Can't wait to see KNOXBreaks. Call it Gold Thief?

trimalchioinwestegg said:
Thanks for the information. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Honestly, I wish we had a choice in the matter. Still, it's not as bad as Apple (yet). Can't wait to see KNOXBreaks. Call it Gold Thief?
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It's really just the e-fuse that is frustrating to me. I think there's always a possibility of people finding a way to reset the fuse, only time will tell.

Yes, you can, I never install it as I no need it.

Does this mean if I never install it, I can root my phone and then succesfully NOT trip any flags if I need to unroot it later for any warranty work?
Thanks for anyone that can clarify this simple question for me!

eskasi said:
Does this mean if I never install it, I can root my phone and then succesfully NOT trip any flags if I need to unroot it later for any warranty work?
Thanks for anyone that can clarify this simple question for me!
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Yes and no. From what I've understood, you can deny KNOX, but flashing any custom firmware or root files will still trip the flag, but some devs might be able to circumvent that. We'll have to wait and see!
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skadude66 said:
Yes and no. From what I've understood, you can deny KNOX, but flashing any custom firmware or root files will still trip the flag, but some devs might be able to circumvent that. We'll have to wait and see!
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G damn handset manufacturers and their locked down ****e. I'd love to see a Raspberry Pi style phone. Open, decent specs and very easy to develop for and mod.

There seems to be a number of components to Knox aswell. On my phone I did not install it however there was still a Knox process running in the background and idling at about 10% CPU!
I have since rooted my phone and frozen all Knox components and the idle CPU usage looks much better

Is anyone gonna make a ROM for this

Is anyone gonna make a ROM seriously, this sucks. Why is no one interested in this thing, it sucks

tonytownsend said:
Is anyone gonna make a ROM seriously, this sucks. Why is no one interested in this thing, it sucks
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my guess is the whole knox thing kinda turned everyone off to rooting. i agree though, it does suck.

The worst part is that I'm in love with this pen, and don't know if I could give it up, but Damn this sucks having no roms, and not just no roms, but seemingly no one hardly at all interested in ANY kind of dev work hardly....total crap

lol I'm still waiting for a 0x0 root for the P600, I'm pretty sure the chances of this happening are slim to none at this point, but I'll wait it out for a few months. Not a fan of voiding the warranty for a 600 dollar piece of hardware.

C2Q said:
lol I'm still waiting for a 0x0 root for the P600, I'm pretty sure the chances of this happening are slim to none at this point, but I'll wait it out for a few months. Not a fan of voiding the warranty for a 600 dollar piece of hardware.
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I would think it's just one published kernel exploit away. My interpretation of the Knox Warranty piece is it gets flagged when you flash improperly signed files. Finding an exploit that is done while running Android may not set the warranty flag.

I see a lot of threads now are offering money to someone who makes a rom, perhaps those interested could pledge something(including me) which might sway someone to making something...... just a thought

I rooted and don't really give a crap about tripping Knox.
I've made ROMs in the past, but I need the source files. Right now I'm waiting for either Samsung or someone else to publish the files for MK1 and I might do something with that.

custom roms
The creator of the Android Revolution roms (android-revolution-hd.blogspot.de) Mike1986 is currently running a pledgie to buy a Note 10.1 2014. If your interested in supporting, the Link is on his Facebook page.

Who cares about a KNOX free root it trips KNOX no matter what if you have a custom recovery. Plus I dont care about warranty. I have never had to return anything due to warranty. I have had 4 iPhones,4 androids, 2 ipads and I figure if its not messed up in the first 30 day then nothing will happen and if it does it will happen past the one year warranty.

Plus it sucks everyone raised money for BEAN and he bolted that was pretty uncool.

Gitbrew has had luck with the PS4, we have a p600 en route.

DudeDelu said:
The creator of the Android Revolution roms (android-revolution-hd.blogspot.de) Mike1986 is currently running a pledgie to buy a Note 10.1 2014. If your interested in supporting, the Link is on his Facebook page.
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Ahh. He is promising for this tablet. Maybe we should do a pledge thread and all add a bit of money in and aim towards p600 for obvious reasons. He could preduce something better than me and probably most people in this forum.

tonytownsend said:
Who cares about a KNOX free root it trips KNOX no matter what if you have a custom recovery. Plus I dont care about warranty. I have never had to return anything due to warranty. I have had 4 iPhones,4 androids, 2 ipads and I figure if its not messed up in the first 30 day then nothing will happen and if it does it will happen past the one year warranty.
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I care about a KNOX free (0x0) root. I don't need a custom recovery, I just want TB and other goodies. I don't imagine I'm the only one.

tonytownsend said:
Who cares about a KNOX free root it trips KNOX no matter what if you have a custom recovery. Plus I dont care about warranty. I have never had to return anything due to warranty. I have had 4 iPhones,4 androids, 2 ipads and I figure if its not messed up in the first 30 day then nothing will happen and if it does it will happen past the one year warranty.
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I have to agree. I have been using android and Winmo devices for a long time including tablets. I have rooted then all and have never had to return one to the manufacturer. I rooted last night (I rooted my Note III the day I got it). SInce I have never had to use a warranty, the benefits of rooting outweighed preserving the warranty. Nothing like being able to use such great apps as Titanium Backup or Ad-away to enhance my experience with my device.

Regardless, a 0x0 root would be nice for those of us who want to retain warranty. Not interested in installing a custom recovery anyway if it trips knox. Those of you who didn't care are rooted already.

I'm not giving anyone money on a promise. I'd donate afterwards. Too many times I've read people getting screwed by shady devs.

locovaca said:
I care about a KNOX free (0x0) root. I don't need a custom recovery, I just want TB and other goodies. I don't imagine I'm the only one.
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C2Q said:
Regardless, a 0x0 root would be nice for those of us who want to retain warranty. Not interested in installing a custom recovery anyway if it trips knox. Those of you who didn't care are rooted already.
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^^^ This.
For me, it's not so much that I care about the warranty (the place I bought it from allows holiday returns through 1/31/2014, so I could even trip KNOX and still return it), it's just that there's so little dev activity on this device, including just a stock rooted ROM, that you don't want to trip KNOX or else you're likely not getting KitKat.
The latest 4.3 update for the Note 2 phone brought KNOX to the Note 2. I was running basically stock rooted anyway, but at least there's a little more dev activity on the Note 2 so a KNOX-free stock rooted ROM was released very quickly after the OTA.
swaggerjacker said:
I'm not giving anyone money on a promise. I'd donate afterwards. Too many times I've read people getting screwed by shady devs.
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This is my policy for everything in my life -- not just dev projects on XDA. I don't pay for something that doesn't yet exist and/or isn't proven/working yet. I also think that if devs buy their own hardware they end up more committed to the particular device rather than putting out one ROM to justify taking the bounty and then moving on to the next device bounty (with no updates, maintenance, fixes, etc.).

tonytownsend said:
Plus it sucks everyone raised money for BEAN and he bolted that was pretty uncool.
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Well he brought root to the device, this is what the bounty was for, I see no foul play here.
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sbattosai said:
Well he brought root to the device, this is what the bounty was for, I see no foul play here.
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+1. I paid my pledge happily. I wanted root and nobody else was working on it. The knox thing doesn't concern me at all.
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tonytownsend said:
Plus it sucks everyone raised money for BEAN and he bolted that was pretty uncool.
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Don't go there man.... He did what he was paid to and that's that. ... bad mouthing him isn't going to get him to come back and make a rom.... honestly I don't blame him for returning it I'm about to I think. .. what the he'll is the point in having top notch hardware when you can't get any dev work happening on it....just retarded
What other tablet is out there though that even comes close in hardware specs but has at least half assed support
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swaggerjacker said:
I'm not giving anyone money on a promise. I'd donate afterwards. Too many times I've read people getting screwed by shady devs.
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That's not how a pledge works. If you've read about something happening it wasn't done in the proper way. A pledge is when you promise to out forward a certain amount of money when a certain goal is reached. If that goal isn't reached to your satisfaction then you don't send the money. That is that. But better not get caught asking for support on the item in question....

[Q] Should I root my note 4?

I know it's probably been asked a thousand times, and it's probably a matter of opinion, but I want some input before rooting my note 4. I have rooted every android device I have ever owned, in most cases before they even got warm, but for some reason I'm hesitant With this one, I love it as it is, and I mostly like touchwiz but I put up with its limitations because I like the few perks that the stock launcher provides over an alternative launcher, I really only want to root just for Xposed mods and various root applications, I can't see myself flashing a custom rom anytime soon, unless someone works out how to implement all of the Samsung hardware features. My main concern at the moment I suppose is warranty and OTA update to Lollipop (if that ever happens), I know you can just get the stock rom/image when it's available but I would prefer OTA, at least for the first upgrade to lollipop. can you root but still keep the stock recovery? Can you root without tripping knox? Is there some sort of fuse like there was in the S4 (and I presume the S5,never had one), is it hard to un root?, any other downsides to rooting the note 4?

If you root you WILL trip Knox. I read a discussion about whether Knox is a physical or coded fuse and i think the general thought is that it is physical so once its tripped it xan only be reset by having the mainboard changed.
However lollipop should just be around the corner so you could just wait a few more weeks (purely a guess at release date) and get ota and then root.
There is a stock ROM available which just has root access and no other changes if you want to stay close to stock but want xposed but it depends what model you have.
I believe there is also an xposed module that hides your root that makes ota think that you haven't rooted so you can still get them. I rooted my Note straight away and tried several ROMs and at the moment I'm on CM12 and its fantastic.
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Eddster3000 said:
If you root you WILL trip Knox. I read a discussion about whether Knox is a physical or coded fuse and i think the general thought is that it is physical so once its tripped it xan only be reset by having the mainboard changed.
However lollipop should just be around the corner so you could just wait a few more weeks (purely a guess at release date) and get ota and then root.
There is a stock ROM available which just has root access and no other changes if you want to stay close to stock but want xposed but it depends what model you have.
I believe there is also an xposed module that hides your root that makes ota think that you haven't rooted so you can still get them. I rooted my Note straight away and tried several ROMs and at the moment I'm on CM12 and its fantastic.
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Thanks Eddster3000, yeah I remember looking into it a fair bit with my S4 and I think it was generally accepted that knox was a hardware fuse, I ended up rooting and updating the bootloader anyway. I was running CM12 on my S4 and loving it, I have always been a fan of Samsung hardware functionality but I stuck with CM12 anyway because it was so good, in this case though I think I'll miss the S pen features and a couple of other things, so I'll probably hold off for a little while I think, if someone came up with dual boot like the patcher for S4 that would probably tip me towards rooting. I have the telstra model, SM-N910G, I don't know how much telstra will interfere with the update process, only time will tell I suppose.

Absolutely. You won't regret it.
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I can't give up on my S-PEN

rooting impairs a huge amount of functionality.
you lose warranty permanently.
you lose knox permanently.
your dual personality phone is now single personality.
you lose knox apps like knox email which are better than regular samsung email.
you lose policy enforcement.
you lose hidden Gallery and hidden SNote.
you lose knox tracking and knox remote wipe.

zurkx said:
rooting impairs a huge amount of functionality.
you lose warranty permanently.
you lose knox permanently.
your dual personality phone is now single personality.
you lose knox apps like knox email which are better than regular samsung email.
you lose policy enforcement.
you lose hidden Gallery and hidden SNote.
you lose knox tracking and knox remote wipe.
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And rooting provides 100 times more functionality then you lose. Really, what percentage of people actually can't live without Knox?
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Eddster3000 said:
If you root you WILL trip Knox. I read a discussion about whether Knox is a physical or coded fuse and i think the general thought is that it is physical so once its tripped it xan only be reset by having the mainboard changed.
However lollipop should just be around the corner so you could just wait a few more weeks (purely a guess at release date) and get ota and then root.
There is a stock ROM available which just has root access and no other changes if you want to stay close to stock but want xposed but it depends what model you have.
I believe there is also an xposed module that hides your root that makes ota think that you haven't rooted so you can still get them. I rooted my Note straight away and tried several ROMs and at the moment I'm on CM12 and its fantastic.
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I really like CM roms, allways used them on my other devices.
but dont you miss the s-pen ??
and how is the camera quality on CM12 ?
I know on my S3 it was horrible on cyanogenmod roms becouse they did not have acces to all the samsung drivers

Brava27 said:
Absolutely. You won't regret it.
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Yeah, never have before, this is the first time I have ever had a second thought.
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I can't give up on my S-PEN
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That's my main issue, I use it so often, and the air command alone is so darn useful, but I probably won't use a custom rom, just want to customize the stock rom and keep all the cool samsungness.
zurkx said:
rooting impairs a huge amount of functionality.
you lose warranty permanently.
you lose knox permanently.
your dual personality phone is now single personality.
you lose knox apps like knox email which are better than regular samsung email.
you lose policy enforcement.
you lose hidden Gallery and hidden SNote.
you lose knox tracking and knox remote wipe.
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All good points to consider, I'm not so concerned with all of these points right now though, I just want access, not so much a custom rom, but what do you mean by dual/single personality?

Eddster3000 said:
If you root you WILL trip Knox. I read a discussion about whether Knox is a physical or coded fuse and i think the general thought is that it is physical so once its tripped it xan only be reset by having the mainboard changed.
However lollipop should just be around the corner so you could just wait a few more weeks (purely a guess at release date) and get ota and then root.
There is a stock ROM available which just has root access and no other changes if you want to stay close to stock but want xposed but it depends what model you have.
I believe there is also an xposed module that hides your root that makes ota think that you haven't rooted so you can still get them. I rooted my Note straight away and tried several ROMs and at the moment I'm on CM12 and its fantastic.
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dicko101 said:
Yeah, never have before, this is the first time I have ever had a second thought.
That's my main issue, I use it so often, and the air command alone is so darn useful, but I probably won't use a custom rom, just want to customize the stock rom and keep all the cool samsungness.
All good points to consider, I'm not so concerned with all of these points right now though, I just want access, not so much a custom rom, but what do you mean by dual/single personality?
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same here man, i really dont know if i should root it or not.. been using the phone 2 months now. and its good.. but you just know it could be better if you root it

Can somebody please tell me what happens to the Picture I have saved in private mode once I root my phone.. Also will I be able to activate private mode again once I unroot?

dicko101 said:
All good points to consider, I'm not so concerned with all of these points right now though, I just want access, not so much a custom rom, but what do you mean by dual/single personality?
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dual personality is when you use your phone for business/private banking/buying stuff. knox keeps certain applications hidden from the main system so that even if someone manages to get a virus on your phone your banking information and business emails are safe. they run in a dual personality or second phone behind the first one. for example i have a bunch of email accounts i use for normal personal stuff - which i use the front note 4 personality for and a business email account i use for business stuff in the second personality. its like two phones in one with different apps/accounts/everything.

sastheayubian said:
Can somebody please tell me what happens to the Picture I have saved in private mode once I root my phone.. Also will I be able to activate private mode again once I unroot?
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It will be lost. Once KONX is tripped, your KNOX container will be automatically erased.

So u mean I permanently lose private mode once I tipped Knox?

dicko101 said:
..... I really only want to root just for Xposed mods....
.... OTA update to Lollipop (if that ever happens)...
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Today Xposed only work with dalvik and when lollipop will come it will work with art
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zurkx said:
rooting impairs a huge amount of functionality.
you lose warranty permanently.
you lose knox permanently.
your dual personality phone is now single personality.
you lose knox apps like knox email which are better than regular samsung email.
you lose policy enforcement.
you lose hidden Gallery and hidden SNote.
you lose knox tracking and knox remote wipe.
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Haha knox is completely useless to everyone.
Sent from the first Samsung Galaxy ever

Brava27 said:
Haha knox is completely useless to everyone.
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completely useless to you because you have never used it. i spend around 70% of my phone time in knox so its not useless to me.
why even buy a $900 note 4 if youre going to permanently remove half its functionality ? you can get a fake note 4 for $160 and root it instead.

zurkx said:
completely useless to you because you have never used it. i spend around 70% of my phone time in knox so its not useless to me.
why even buy a $900 note 4 if youre going to permanently remove half its functionality ? you can get a fake note 4 for $160 and root it instead.
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Knox is for paranoid users. What does Knox do again? "protect you"? Please
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Brava27 said:
Knox is for paranoid users. What does Knox do again? "protect you"? Please
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it keeps my private stuff private. yes it does protect me against unauthorized use. you may not value privacy but some of us use our phones for work and not as toys.

zurkx said:
it keeps my private stuff private. yes it does protect me against unauthorized use. you may not value privacy but some of us use our phones for work and not as toys.
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Then why are you on xda if you cannot develop anything on your non rooted phone?
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Should i root my Note 4?

My main reason not rooting it yet was that i was thinking to sell it to get a Note 5.. but after the show yesterday i am dissapointed i think i dont want to move on to the Note 5 because of the non sd card slot and non removable battery , design and obviously no big difference its the same sh##t as the s6...
I am little bit afraid because my old S3 one day suddenly stopped working and the motherboard was burned, but i have flashed many roms etc ... i dont wanna flash any roms in my Note 4 .
soooooooooo.......Should i root it now?
or is there any other phone that i can buy with simillar features? i really want the fingerprint scanner from the s6

OK to root but avoid playing with your CPU/GPU voltages and overclocking to avoid repeat of what happened to your S3.
For me, rooting is essential as I like installing mods.
You just have to live with tripped knox counter.
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I keep think about rooting mine if for any other reason to stop damn ads! I think the back up options are better (Titanium) but apart from that you cant get around most shortcomings via other means. The other reason and the main one I didn't is that skygo doesn't work if rooted.
I can live with my Note 4 until the LG G4 pro comes out Sept/Oct time....I'm bored of it but nothing better is available and like you, the note 5 isn't an upgrade to waste a ton of money on!
I just shifted a load of apps to sd and it seems a tad slicker. Also stopped a few apps I don't use.

If i root will i be receiving OTA updates?
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patriotaki said:
If i root will i be receiving OTA updates?
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I think NO

will the root block OTA updates? IF i root my Note 4 and change the font files from system will this void it? because according to this article it doesnt block it?
http://galaxy-note-3.wonderhowto.co...or-more-popular-google-ios-icon-sets-0156105/

patriotaki said:
My main reason not rooting it yet was that i was thinking to sell it to get a Note 5.. but after the show yesterday i am dissapointed i think i dont want to move on to the Note 5 because of the non sd card slot and non removable battery , design and obviously no big difference its the same sh##t as the s6...
I am little bit afraid because my old S3 one day suddenly stopped working and the motherboard was burned, but i have flashed many roms etc ... i dont wanna flash any roms in my Note 4 .
soooooooooo.......Should i root it now?
or is there any other phone that i can buy with simillar features? i really want the fingerprint scanner from the s6
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I'm in your same situation, but I have decided not to root it until the warranty is expired, or I have resold it anyway (assuming something better appears for me). I rooted the previous Note after the warranty expired, and I might do the same for this one as well if I don't get any new phone in the meantime and resell this.

elevul said:
I'm in your same situation, but I have decided not to root it until the warranty is expired, or I have resold it anyway (assuming something better appears for me). I rooted the previous Note after the warranty expired, and I might do the same for this one as well if I don't get any new phone in the meantime and resell this.
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uhhh... dont know what to do !!! Is there anyway i can reset knox counter?

patriotaki said:
uhhh... dont know what to do !!! Is there anyway i can reset knox counter?
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No.

Is there any way i can root my Note 4 and NOT lose the Private Mode and also get OTA updates??
What does the KNOX counter really do ? Also if i decide to unroot is there any way to reset KNOX counter?
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patriotaki said:
Is there any way i can root my Note 4 and NOT lose the Private Mode and also get OTA updates??
What does the KNOX counter really do ? Also if i decide to unroot is there any way to reset KNOX counter?
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Not sure about private mode, but if you just root you should receive the OTA updates (though you'll have to re-root after every update).
When you first root the efuse is physically triggered, after which the only way to reset back to 0 is to go to the Samsung center and make them change it (unsure if they have to change the whole electronic board or they resolder a new efuse on the board).
Issue is, for Enterprise customers they change it for $10 a phone, but as far as I know they don't do this for end users, and if they do it would cost way more and the warranty on the phone would be permanently invalidated.
Oh, one warning: if you have Knox Security enabled DO NOT ROOT before you disable it. You'll find yourself with a brick.

No, No, and NO.
Knox can not be 0x0 ever again.
Read about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Knox
As far as the OTA goes, I think you will be able to get it (as long as you don't have custom recovery installed) I think this is the case.. But then again, I am not sure about it..
I personally, do root all of my phones. The main thing is to install addaway to get rid of anoying adds.
If the motherboard dies, there is no way to know that the knox was tripped..

elevul said:
Not sure about private mode, but if you just root you should receive the OTA updates (though you'll have to re-root after every update).
When you first root the efuse is physically triggered, after which the only way to reset back to 0 is to go to the Samsung center and make them change it (unsure if they have to change the whole electronic board or they resolder a new efuse on the board).
Issue is, for Enterprise customers they change it for $10 a phone, but as far as I know they don't do this for end users, and if they do it would cost way more and the warranty on the phone would be permanently invalidated.
Oh, one warning: if you have Knox Security enabled DO NOT ROOT before you disable it. You'll find yourself with a brick.
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I unenrolled my device from my knox through the my knox portal is it safe now to root it? I dont have my knox installed
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/root-note-4-t3176164
Please continue this discussion there
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Tomorrow is the big day

Since tomorrow is the official release day, what are you expecting?

Most people here already have had the phone for over a week in the US or 2 days now in the UK due to pre order early shipment so not expecting much to be honest
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Got mine Monday in the mail from best buy. I'm anxious for roms finally. First phone in about 5 years with an unlocked bootloader

TehPirate_ said:
Got mine Monday in the mail from best buy. I'm anxious for roms finally. First phone in about 5 years with an unlocked bootloader
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This is the first Sammy phone I haven't been too fussed about rooting purely because it just seems to work really well and as much as having root appeals to me the disadvantages of not having samsung pay puts me off
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TehPirate_ said:
Since tomorrow is the official release day, what are you expecting?
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Pretty much what we've seen in the reviews and read in the forum, but on sale in more places.

stierney said:
This is the first Sammy phone I haven't been too fussed about rooting purely because it just seems to work really well and as much as having root appeals to me the disadvantages of not having samsung pay puts me off
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Isn't that only if Knox is tripped? Surely a root will become available soon enough that doesn't trip it

TehPirate_ said:
Isn't that only if Knox is tripped? Surely a root will become available soon enough that doesn't trip it
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You would hope but it is getting harder and harder not to root but to root undetected and use financial applications such as banking and pay software.
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TehPirate_ said:
Isn't that only if Knox is tripped? Surely a root will become available soon enough that doesn't trip it
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There has not been a root that doesn't trip Knox (aside from the occasional exploit that gets immediately patched) since the S4. Don't root the S7 unless you're content tripping Knox, losing Samsung Pay & Android Pay, and potentially losing your warranty.

CafeKampuchia said:
There has not been a root that doesn't trip Knox (aside from the occasional exploit that gets immediately patched) since the S4. Don't root the S7 unless you're content tripping Knox, losing Samsung Pay & Android Pay, and potentially losing your warranty.
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My S5 is rooted by flashing a kernel, allowing use of towel root, then flashing a pre rooted update and Knox isn't tripped still. And I don't update my devices unless it's a pre modded update; disabled auto updates. So yes, I do believe it's possible

TehPirate_ said:
My S5 is rooted by flashing a kernel, allowing use of towel root, then flashing a pre rooted update and Knox isn't tripped still. And I don't update my devices unless it's a pre modded update; disabled auto updates. So yes, I do believe it's possible
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That wasn't possible on the S6, and Samsung ups their security game with each device. Don't hold your breath waiting for a root that doesn't trip Knox on the S7.

CafeKampuchia said:
That wasn't possible on the S6, and Samsung ups their security game with each device. Don't hold your breath waiting for a root that doesn't trip Knox on the S7.
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Going off of that, would an xposed module be possible to re-enable such features? With root on my S5, I can't use s health or private mode unless I have an xprivacy tweak enabled.