http://www.businessinsider.com/nadella-merges-windows-phone-windows-2014-7
"This means one operating system that covers all screen sizes," Nadella said to analysts on the quarterly conference call. "We will streamline the next version of Windows from three operating systems into one single converged operating system for screens of all sizes."
We've known that MS is on a big integration shtick for its OS'es at the kernel level, and the "universal apps" thingie was announced. But this above would be a major step up from that. The "one OS for all sizes" reaches WAY OUT THERE, way more out there than Win8's "one UI for all sizes" that it's hard to take this as credible, even though it's a direct quote from CEO man. I think we'd need to get more elaboration from Nad bud, and we will once the press gets this bit between their teeth and runs with it. Suffice it to say, I'll look forward to the Win.Next preview, supposedly coming some time this fall.
Welp at the least MS beeswax will enliven the watercooler chats, eh? I'm almost thinking that I might be wrong about Nad bud, that he may just turn out to be an interesting dude...OK no not really, but we live in hope.
Really depends how thoroughly they mean "one operating system". I mean, to a certain degree, that's already true. Win8.x, Server 2012 Rx, Windows RT 8.x, Windows Phone 8.x, and Xbox One all use the NT 6.2 or newer kernel, all support at least *some* common public APIs, all have many of the same APIs under the cover (OK, haven't verified on the XBOne, but it's probably true there too), all (again possible exception XBOne) use at least some of the same file systems, all have at least similar app sandboxing (moreso with 8.1 / NT 6.3 than with 6.2). I'm not sure about their bootloaders, but it's probably similar.
If they really want to unify the OS behaviors entirely, they're going to run into serious UI issues; essentially the unified OS will need to support everything from 3.5" 480x800 screens with no input but touch to multiple 35" 3740x2160 workstations with no touch input at all. Frankly, I don't see that happening at all.
OK, assume they're at least moderately sane about the UI and aren't going to try and make the phone and PC UIs more than approximately similar in a few respects (like it is now). They still can't actually port over all the various software that comes with the OS to each version; even the relatively stripped-down RT (which in some ways has less in-box software that the home PC versions of 8.x) has an install footprint larger, by itself, than many smartphones' internal capacity. So they'll need to customize the OS software and feature selection per platform, and probably is greater ways than just re-writing "pocket" versions of things like Management Console and Powershell.
OK, but they could still unify the core, right? After all, the difference between 8.x and RT, aside from the CPU instruction set, boils down to a single configuration change... but WP8.x has a very different core library layout (and is missing some functionality entirely). On the other hand, we know it's *possible* to run "normal" apps on WP8 given a suitably-compiled version and a way to launch them; the UpdateOS includes versions of things like CMD.EXE and FTPD.EXE that work even on the stock OS if you don't mind the requirement of running them in an app sandbox. So, why not eliminate the low-level differences?
Well, aside from the fact that this would make WP a bit bigger of install footprint (bad but possibly tolerable), the only "problem" that I can see is that this would make WP far more useful and would make RT not be a case of jailbreak-or-suck. That seems to be strongly antithetical to Microsoft's entire viewpoint where those platforms are concerned... but as you point out, MS has had a major change in leadership (careful, don't step in it) so hey, it could happen.
Or it could be a new CEO blowing hot air that means absolutely nothing. After all, WP8.1 is already about as close to Windows 8.1 as equivalently recent versions of iOS and OS X are (and Windows RT is closer) and really, letting Apple redefine concepts like "the same OS" is what the computing industry is all about these days. Why rock the boat? (Yes, most of this paragraph is sarcastic, aside from the first sentence or so.)
>Really depends how thoroughly they mean "one operating system". I mean, to a certain degree, that's already true.
Yeah, MS watchers said it's the same old--IOW, "foot, meet mouth" for Gandhi Man. Leadership is about many things, but most fundamental is communication. So far, dude is like a PR squawk box gone amok. "We're all about productivity, but we love XBox...Devices are no longer our emphasis, but we're going into the phone biz." Oh.
Re-Org 2.0 (sans 18K heads) + "metric-driven engineering" is Nadella's signature move to turn around MS. I'm taking bets.
Techwise, Win9 will be pretty minor. Short 1-yr cycle + need for 100% Win7 compat = old codebase stays intact. But a face-lift to show TLC for desktop will be welcomed. I think it will do OK, not so much because of improvements, but because the userbase is due for replacement buys, after sitting out the 3 years of Win8. People want an updated Win7, and Win9 will be that.
More important is how MS plans to re-jumpstart mobile, viz the reported "Mobile SKU" sans desktop. RT is at 0%, and WP clocks in at single digits. Win9 will dial back on pimping mobile, so no help on that front. The obvious draw is Office Touch, but bundled Office 2013 freebie had zip impact on sales.
OEMs got burned on RT and jumped off the bandwagon. How many of them will get back on will be a key prelim indicator for RT 2.0. After that, consumer buy-in will be the main hurdle, and dev support will be the third obstacle. In short, long odds.
MS needs an eye-popper. Barring some tech miracle, the usual fallback is pricing. Intel has gone all-out, spending billions in subsidy to get traction in mobile. How MS prices its coming toys will show its willingness to compete. My gauge is that both Windows (non-Pro) and Office will need to be free for consumers. Like right now. If MS had made WP7 a freebie from the start, WP wouldn't be scraping for scraps today. Now it's too late to challenge Android on phones, regardless of what MS does for WP. Office today is at the same crossroads where WP was at 3 years ago.
Leadership is also about the "vision thing"--being able to sift the tea leaves and act appropriately, not waiting until the competition beans you one upside the head. MS has gone flaccid for the last couple of decades, while sucking on the teats of its cash cows. We'll find out if Nadella can be "The One" in 2015. I've a soft spot for Gandhi Man, but he needs to show me more than a PR chatbot.
Now we know it: it's Windows 10
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New Windows Mobile OS "Crossbow" shows its face
Windows Mobile 5 is the current OS of choice for Windows Mobile users however the next iteration, codenamed Crossbow, has shown its face, check out the full Pocket PC homescreen shown above! It has a glossy title bar and soft keys and will feature Vista-esque folder icons etc.
New Windows Mobile OS "Crossbow" shows its face
Pieter Knook, a Microsoft Sr. VP, has commented that Microsoft plan to release an upgrade to their mobile platform yearly which is interesting and could mean a new OS with every yearly upgrade for pay monthly contracts. Knook has also commented that Crossbow will have strong links with Office 2007 and Exchange 12 as well as including the mobile version of Office Communicator, an Instant Messenger tool for enterprises.
New Windows Mobile OS "Crossbow" shows its face
Google cache caught a leaked presentation which told us that Crossbow will be released to manufacturer in Q4 2006 ready for release in Q1/Q2 of 2007 and that the next operating system (codenamed "Photon") will be released to manufacturers in Q4 2007 ready for release in Q1/Q2 2008 (Photon is set to include a new, flexible shell with modular containers and utilise the “Yamazaki” CE kernel).
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Well all i can say is what a HUGE disappointment! Is this really the best M$ can do? If looks are anything to go by, then i have seen far better mods on here. Let's just hope that any enhancements under the "skin" are worthwhile.
Regards,
Colin.
Why it is dissapointmet to you, the GUI looks nice. How you can comment something that you have never used ?
I cannot conclude from these screenshots what changes are, but if there are again mostly cosmetic changes with increased instability, three times increased size and correspondilngly long boot time, as it was upon change from PPC2003 to WM5... it sucks
The changes from WM2003 to WM5 are far from cosmetic. OK, many of the changes don't *directly* affect users from day one, but as the platform is improved, it makes the developers more productive so you see more, better and cheaper software. Visual C++ and (worse VB) for Embedded Platforms (or whatever it was called) was an utter nightmare. Dotnet compact framework moved the game along enormously and .net 2.0 has utterly improved things again. Take a look at the original 1960s Jaguar XJ6 and then at the current XJ6. They look very similar, but they couldn't be more different under the skin.
Yes, it is true. I was too critical in that reply. There are many positive sides too. What made me nervous are just some points where my good old iPAQ 2210 is better/faster than brand new Universal
And my original XDA is too, but the benefits (for me) outway the problems. If that were not the case, I'd still use the XDA every day. Take a look at this and tell me the changes are just cosmetic
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/09/11/749942.aspx
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Why it is dissapointmet to you, the GUI looks nice. How you can comment something that you have never used ?
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My disappointment is purely at the cosmetics. You correctly point out that i have never used it. The reason being there are far better looking skins available now for our WM5 PDA's. I guess i wished to see something different. Something that makes you go "Oooh, look at that!" etc.
Never mind, we will just have to wait and see later this year hopefully what exactly all the fuss is about!
I was surprised with the battery-icon and time.
It's very real. Today I went out to lunch with an old colleague who went out to Bellevue and an MS rep there was flashing folks 2125's, 3125's and 8125's with betas of the new OS. He had a 2125. It had a lot of goodies and looked pretty slick. That would've been nice to get my 8125 fixed up. I played around with his 2125 for a few seconds - was VERY snappy compared to my wife's.
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My disappointment is purely at the cosmetics. You correctly point out that i have never used it. The reason being there are far better looking skins available now for our WM5 PDA's. I guess i wished to see something different. Something that makes you go "Oooh, look at that!" etc.
Never mind, we will just have to wait and see later this year hopefully what exactly all the fuss is about!
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I will be gratefull if you show me more slick skins than this one (please exclude the eten dialer variants) and by skins i mean today theme, dialer, and comm manager
Here's the Windows Mobile Release Map:
Why exactly are these things called Windows?? Has anyone ever seen a WINDOW on a pocketpc device??! I sure haven't.
Just an embedded OS with a Start button.
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Why exactly are these things called Windows?? Has anyone ever seen a WINDOW on a pocketpc device??! I sure haven't.
Just an embedded OS with a Start button.
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Yea, they should call it Microsoft Start 5.0, lol.
I really wish MS would release the update WM5 or later for sale, or even for free...that would stop a lot of hair being pulled out.
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Why exactly are these things called Windows?? Has anyone ever seen a WINDOW on a pocketpc device??! I sure haven't.
Just an embedded OS with a Start button.
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Dialogue windows are still windows and even if a window occupies the full screen, does that make it any less of a window? Think back to the original analogy: these are windows into the programme. I think the term still fits.
Yeah, Google has just announced that Android is a platform there is no real GPhone. ok. I'm sure a lot of us are more than interested in getting this platform on our existing phone.
My question to those who understand the internals of our existing HTC phones. Is there hope for us to scrap WinMo and put Android instead. Their website makes it sound like it can be done.
What do you think?
I don't know the answer to that, but it sure seems like it, e specially since Sprint and other carriers are also joining hte Open handset alliance, they may provide support for linking Android with their services and configuration. I can't wait.
Wasn't there a pooled $$ reward that someone set up for the first person who could get Win XP running on the new Intel macs (prior to bootcamp). I suggest a similar motivational scheme (if necessary) to compensate whoever can accomplish a similar feat: getting Android to run on existing HTC hardware.
Anyone interested?
That would be super cool. I mean, I really can't wait...
What if we start a fund-raiser managed by the admins to request donations from members towards the reward? I'm sure that would be even more motivating.
Pool
I would love to start a pool too! The only problem is there are too many devices to support. With getting XP to run on an Intel mac, they all run the same hardware. My Athena is a lot different then somebodies universal or wizard. I'm guessing it will be just like the efforts to port linux over to our handsets. I'm hoping for my device to be able to run it but it would be a huge effort to be able to support all the devices.
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I would love to start a pool too! The only problem is there are too many devices to support. With getting XP to run on an Intel mac, they all run the same hardware. My Athena is a lot different then somebodies universal or wizard. I'm guessing it will be just like the efforts to port linux over to our handsets. I'm hoping for my device to be able to run it but it would be a huge effort to be able to support all the devices.
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It may not be that hard (theoretically) because they (OHA) did all the ground work of getting linux to run on our devices. The work (I think) is in dealing with the customizations for each device. The min requirements they stated seem well below what most of our devices are capable of, so that shouldn't be a problem either. Maybe we'll just have to wait until a device from HTC with that ROM comes out.
WARNING!! I absolutely am talking out of no knowlege.
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HTC and Google are working together to release a new phone that will run on the Android platform. The phone will reportedly have a 3- by 5-inch swivel screen like the SideKick that will automatically rotate from portrait to landscape. It will have a full QWERTY keyboard as well, but the coolest part about the phone is the "time-sensitive" touch menus that will expand depending on how long the users touch the screen.
According to Engadget Mobile, this should show up sometime in the second half of 2008.
TT_boy said:
According to Engadget Mobile, this should show up sometime in the second half of 2008.
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The tears are coming into my eyes. It was already possible
to use Blueangel as a linux phone two years ago without any help from HTC
http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa
It is possible, but as far as I know it, it didn't work quite well... Maybe we shall have better support when Android comes out.
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It is possible, but as far as I know it, it didn't work quite well...
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It was still not bad, when you consider that the code
is actually written without any docs from manufacturer
by 1 person (cp15).
Just look in the xda-dev archive.
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Actually, further speculation concludes that this is the correct rendering of that phone.
cr2 said:
The tears are coming into my eyes. It was already possible
to use Blueangel as a linux phone two years ago without any help from HTC
http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa
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Think of this though, we're struggling at the moment dealing with stability and functionality issues with WinMo on our devices made for that platform. How much more with a totally alien OS coded by a single individual. In as much as I think it was a great achievement, I do not think it was a workable substitute for WinMo. This however presents a huge posibility ..... my .02.
FAIL ! major
Double fail!
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Epic fail!!
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You have a source link?
First offerings are typically missing things found on more robust devices. Think of the original iPhone--no native apps, MMS, GPS, copy/paste, multitasking, camera, 3G, etc. or the G1 or whatever.
Both iOS and Android started out on devices that were missing a lot of common features but now they are top of the line. I'm more interested in how WP7 looks in a year or two.
I think times have changed. WP7 has to be fully featured now. Smartphones are here, they are mainstream, and they are big business.
Turns out this information might not be correct just yet, here's what I found:
Here's what one can read on Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 portal:
“Some Windows Phones have a Secure Digital (SD) card that's used to expand the amount of storage space on the phone. If your phone has one, it's in an SD card slot underneath the battery cover on the back of your phone.
Windows Phone uses a special high–performance SD card that works differently than SD cards in other devices. When your phone is built and first set up, its internal storage and SD card are combined and recognized as one storage system.
Warning
You should not remove the SD card in your phone or replace it with a new one because your Windows Phone won't work properly. Existing data on the phone may be lost, and that SD card can't be used in other devices or Windows Phones.”
It kind of sounds like they just want to keep people from jailbreaking/flashing/rooting their phones, but maybe it's what they say.
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-shows-off-10-new-windows-phone-7-devices
i take that back so far only 1 phone had a sdcard slot its the Focus all others are packing 16gigs of internal space
Windows Phone 7 has both good and bad, but to be honest, I like it a whole lot better in it's first release than I did with Android when it was first released.
One thing I like a lot, which I know a lot will disagree with, is (some of) the hardware standards. All WP7 phones, as far as I can tell, run the same old generation Snapdragon in the EVO (and even further back to 2009, the HD2). Yet the games and UI look great and run smooth. Having a standard level of specs means that it is easier to build a OS that will run as intended on all devices. With Android it's hit or miss; get a entry level Android phone and things will draaaaggg, get a high end phone without the latest and greatest CPU/GPU (EVO) and things will still not be 100% smooth. Google just can't optimize the experience for all these devices like Microsoft can -- and don't forget as a licensed OS, dev support comes attached.
The SD card thing is CERTAINLY LAME, I mean, what does that achieve? But the benefits to me are clear: WP7 will run smooth across the board; and with similar hardware and Microsoft support, updates will probably come A WHOLE LOT FASTER than what we get on Android.
I personally want to give WP7 a try, it's still missing a couple of important features (multi-tasking for third party media being the key thing). But the Office + Zune + Xbox Live integration looks better than anything comparable on Android, and as a designer who like smart minimalism, the Metro UI is perfect.
...and did you see the Touch Pro 7 coming to Sprint? That's the phone I was waiting for.
Award Tour said:
Windows Phone 7 has both good and bad, but to be honest, I like it a whole lot better in it's first release than I did with Android when it was first released.
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That would be impressive if windows hadn't been on cell phones for much longer than android.
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That would be impressive if windows hadn't been on cell phones for much longer than android.
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Hmm.. Perhaps. Windows Mobile did almost everything Android does, only in a less intuitive/attractive way. Windows Phone 7 is an entirely different beast, and although the core is similar/upgraded, the UI/UX is entirely new. But still, there's no doubt that I'm interested.
Look at the TP7 for Sprint:
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SEXY. Keyboard to die for IMO.
no 4g or front facing camera. im good
Award Tour said:
Hmm.. Perhaps. Windows Mobile did almost everything Android does, only in a less intuitive/attractive way. Windows Phone 7 is an entirely different beast, and although the core is similar/upgraded, the UI/UX is entirely new. But still, there's no doubt that I'm interested.
Look at the TP7 for Sprint:
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SEXY. Keyboard to die for IMO.
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I'm not denying that it looks promising. I just was commenting that it's not the first entry into the mobile market. There has been a lot of trial and error to get there, just like every OS.
The new windows 8 will have arm tegra support, will I be able to install windows 8 on my xoom?
we'll see when it comes out.
The first public beta should be out within a month or so, and if you know where to look you should be able to find the very early alpha/beta leaks. I have no idea what level of work would be required to boot it on existing hardware or even if it's possible with the kit we have today
As far as I know, the main idea of windows 8 was the ability to run on a MUCH LARGER range of devices and architectures. They demoed win 8 on a ARM tablet a long time ago. Who knows what they have accomplished since then. All i know is that we would have a lot of re-partitioning to do on our xooms to fit win 8 on our limited /system partitions. But then again, idk if it will run on a Linux kernel. I only know the basics.
Just my 2¢
It could be run native, but I don't think it'll happen. The biggest loophole for Windows Phone 7 to be ported to Android is the fact that it's closed source. Therefore, there isn't been any developer trying to get WP7 running on an Android-phone. And therefore, I think the same loophole applies for Windows 8.
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It could be run native, but I don't think it'll happen. The biggest loophole for Windows Phone 7 to be ported to Android is the fact that it's closed source. Therefore, there isn't been any developer trying to get WP7 running on an Android-phone. And therefore, I think the same loophole applies for Windows 8.
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I totally forgot about it being closed source. >.> ....Well if win8 is put on a tegra device nativley(spelling?), then could porting it to our device be easier?
Yes, then it would be easier. Someone ported WebOS to an Android-phone that had nearly the same hardware despite being closed source, so it COULD be possible if it was put on Tegra2. But I doubt that, since Kal El is coming.
Its not windows 8 running on tegra...its the drivers....i don;t know who is gonna go through all the troubles making specific drivers for xoom...only thing i could hope for is that windows 8 has a big database for generic drivers that works...
well windows 8 dev downloads are available at 8pm PT (2hours from now) would we know about preloaded generic drivers then?
kenfly said:
well windows 8 dev downloads are available at 8pm PT (2hours from now) would we know about preloaded generic drivers then?
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As per Engadget's review of win 8
ARM devices will be supported, but not in the developer preview
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I have the dev build, if I put it on a usb stick can't I just set my xoom to boot from usb
Kidding, Kidding. Anyway, I was thinking that since the xoom supports USB host, and should supports ARM, it should be installable like a normal computer if you can somehow boot the installer - and assuming there is at least basic driver support for the necessities.
I suppose they would also need to release an ARM build.
in essence yes
or even if there is a running arm version all we would really need is the install.wim...nothing else is really super important
But I am thinking that Microsoft is being strict with ARM because they may be designing it specifically for oems, so they may not have a general vendor license like with Microsoft laptops/computer/netbook
Yes Win8 will support ARM. No, the current dev build does not contain that code. The build number will be higher, they don't even have the setup done for ARM support yet. Windows 8 is not Windows 7 and will not be bound by the same restrictions when it comes to hardware as previous Windows versions have been. This includes application development. It will be easier then ever to create applications by simply using HTML5 and CSS3 for example.
When Windows 8 ARM support code does make its way into our hands I will be pushing this onto Tegra2 (Atrix4G) hardware asap. Stay tuned, because as soon as MS gives me the code I'm working on the port/drivers. Because these devices are SoC's you are not going to run into the same level of hardware issues with drivers as you may have previously. With a SoC, your support for that ARM SoC will/should include support for the entire SoC, nothing less. You should expect that at least. This includes, audio, video, network, etc. Everything is included on chip now. Welcome to the future folks. Forget what you thought it took to build a computer and realize that now everything is built onto a single chip die. It's really impressive. So impressive that IBM is now stacking these SoC's together with 3M adhesive which dessipates heat. This means you can have a CPU up to 1000 times faster than we have now and still not use up hardly any power or physical space in the package. Times are changing for sure.
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http://surface.com
Enjoy!
I am sold for the Intel version . Finally something that can replace my 8 years old Toshiba tablet!
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/18/3...d:+WinRumors+(WinRumors)&utm_content=FaceBook
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/18/3094157/new-microsoft-surface-windows-tablet
Would've liked it bigger, still good anyways.
OndraSter said:
http://surface.com
Enjoy!
I am sold for the Intel version . Finally something that can replace my 8 years old Toshiba tablet!
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/18/3...d:+WinRumors+(WinRumors)&utm_content=FaceBook
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/18/3094157/new-microsoft-surface-windows-tablet
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Reading my mind my man! I'm looking to replace my X60 tablet. Stoked about the USB port to run my external DVD/CD combo unit.
I'm all over the Pro model....too bad it won't come out for a while. I'd really like to finally realize my "tablet on the go, PC at home" dreams
Definitely getting a Pro if the specs allow me to run the desktop apps I need, Solidworks probably being the most hungry of them.
Now that's what im talking about, finally, looks like MS sacked their old marketing department
If the hardware matches the ad quality then consider one unit sold!
Even with Windows 8, which i don't like, the Microsoft Surface Pro looks really nice.
i cannot justify the existence of a Windows RT device, but windows 8 x86 on a tablet is pretty decent. I have a feeling that the price on these is going ot be too high to even bother with.
EDIT: and seriously, why the "surface" name? are they killing off the old micosoft surface?
mtmerrick said:
Even with Windows 8, which i don't like, the Microsoft Surface Pro looks really nice.
i cannot justify the existence of a Windows RT device, but windows 8 x86 on a tablet is pretty decent. I have a feeling that the price on these is going ot be too high to even bother with.
EDIT: and seriously, why the "surface" name? are they killing off the old micosoft surface?
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I think the old Surface was the stepping stone to this one.
In 2007 Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were asked about the future portable devices, Bill answered he imagined a "tablet form-factor" in which touch was the main interface person-device (this was all before Apple announced the first iPad, mind you). He also mentioned MS were working on something like this but the proyects weren't good enough to release because he imagined people needed something to type and write on, Digital Ink, I guess this is what he had in mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UeLk6vmbtM
mtmerrick said:
EDIT: and seriously, why the "surface" name? are they killing off the old micosoft surface?
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The old Microsoft Surface table is now called 'modelname' with Microsoft PixelSense (like the Samsung SUR40 with Microsoft PixelSense).
So, the name is inherited from one big touch device to a smaller, more consumer oriented one.
This will be a hit or a miss.
Or they will be very succesfull (as a (cheaper?) alternative to the Ipad).
Or they will screw it up with a lack of compatibility/bugs/exclusive apps/.....
vpwp said:
Definitely getting a Pro if the specs allow me to run the desktop apps I need, Solidworks probably being the most hungry of them.
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If I can run SolidWorks on the Slate...OMFG. SOLD.
If the GPU will have enough power then yes, you will run there anything
I suppose we'll have to wait and see.
vpwp said:
I suppose we'll have to wait and see.
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Apparently we won't have to wait. I just watched the keynote and at 26:30, SolidWorks is specifically mentioned as capable of being run on Surface. SWEET.
Link: http://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+slashgear+(SlashGear)
kenikh said:
Apparently we won't have to wait. I just watched the keynote and at 26:30, SolidWorks is specifically mentioned as capable of being run on Surface. SWEET.
Link: http://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+slashgear+(SlashGear)
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I watched the keynote too. At about 13:30 - 14:30 minute mark, you'll see the system crash and become unresponsive. The presenter had to grab a backup tablet to continue.
I doubt this bodes well for the system.
ohgood said:
I watched the keynote too. At about 13:30 - 14:30 minute mark, you'll see the system crash and become unresponsive. The presenter had to grab a backup tablet to continue.
I doubt this bodes well for the system.
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I've been running Microsoft software as dogfood for over a decade. I'm not worried - you should have seen XP 6 months before launch. That worked out OK.
ohgood said:
I watched the keynote too. At about 13:30 - 14:30 minute mark, you'll see the system crash and become unresponsive. The presenter had to grab a backup tablet to continue.
I doubt this bodes well for the system.
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Well thats the whole thing of showing beta software right? Crashes could happen and it was not Windows which was the problem but most likely the netflix app which was probably thrown together rather quickly. They probably wanted to show it anyway so they were able to mention some "high profile" apps will be out on launch to ease the "but it has not apps! FAIL"-type of crowd.
It was quite a smart move, too bad it crashed. But thats technology… It happens. To blame Microsoft for having a software crash is kind of narrow minded as the product is far away from launch still. Anybody using any kind of smartphone/tablet knows it can almost certainly crash at some point, even the iPhone/iPads on final software. It was just a bit unfortunate it happend on stage.
Non the less, what a great product! It made my day Can't wait to test it out...
Now this is what Metro was desinged for! Though I still would never use it on a desktop or non-touch laptop but it looks great on the Surface.
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kenikh said:
Apparently we won't have to wait. I just watched the keynote and at 26:30, SolidWorks is specifically mentioned as capable of being run on Surface. SWEET.
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Thanks for the info!
Marvin_S said:
Well thats the whole thing of showing beta software right? Crashes could happen and it was not Windows which was the problem but most likely the netflix app which was probably thrown together rather quickly. They probably wanted to show it anyway so they were able to mention some "high profile" apps will be out on launch to ease the "but it has not apps! FAIL"-type of crowd.
It was quite a smart move, too bad it crashed. But thats technology… It happens. To blame Microsoft for having a software crash is kind of narrow minded as the product is far away from launch still. Anybody using any kind of smartphone/tablet knows it can almost certainly crash at some point, even the iPhone/iPads on final software. It was just a bit unfortunate it happend on stage.
Non the less, what a great product! It made my day Can't wait to test it out...
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Well, yes and no.
The app that was thrown together and crashed other things was IE, or the metro UI, or both, or something else that crashed them both. If you saw the keynote, you would understand.