[Q] Windows 8 - Windows 8 General

The new windows 8 will have arm tegra support, will I be able to install windows 8 on my xoom?

we'll see when it comes out.

The first public beta should be out within a month or so, and if you know where to look you should be able to find the very early alpha/beta leaks. I have no idea what level of work would be required to boot it on existing hardware or even if it's possible with the kit we have today

As far as I know, the main idea of windows 8 was the ability to run on a MUCH LARGER range of devices and architectures. They demoed win 8 on a ARM tablet a long time ago. Who knows what they have accomplished since then. All i know is that we would have a lot of re-partitioning to do on our xooms to fit win 8 on our limited /system partitions. But then again, idk if it will run on a Linux kernel. I only know the basics.
Just my 2¢

It could be run native, but I don't think it'll happen. The biggest loophole for Windows Phone 7 to be ported to Android is the fact that it's closed source. Therefore, there isn't been any developer trying to get WP7 running on an Android-phone. And therefore, I think the same loophole applies for Windows 8.

Vistaus said:
It could be run native, but I don't think it'll happen. The biggest loophole for Windows Phone 7 to be ported to Android is the fact that it's closed source. Therefore, there isn't been any developer trying to get WP7 running on an Android-phone. And therefore, I think the same loophole applies for Windows 8.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I totally forgot about it being closed source. >.> ....Well if win8 is put on a tegra device nativley(spelling?), then could porting it to our device be easier?

Yes, then it would be easier. Someone ported WebOS to an Android-phone that had nearly the same hardware despite being closed source, so it COULD be possible if it was put on Tegra2. But I doubt that, since Kal El is coming.

Its not windows 8 running on tegra...its the drivers....i don;t know who is gonna go through all the troubles making specific drivers for xoom...only thing i could hope for is that windows 8 has a big database for generic drivers that works...

well windows 8 dev downloads are available at 8pm PT (2hours from now) would we know about preloaded generic drivers then?

kenfly said:
well windows 8 dev downloads are available at 8pm PT (2hours from now) would we know about preloaded generic drivers then?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As per Engadget's review of win 8
ARM devices will be supported, but not in the developer preview
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHrcz7zcm_8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk

I have the dev build, if I put it on a usb stick can't I just set my xoom to boot from usb
Kidding, Kidding. Anyway, I was thinking that since the xoom supports USB host, and should supports ARM, it should be installable like a normal computer if you can somehow boot the installer - and assuming there is at least basic driver support for the necessities.
I suppose they would also need to release an ARM build.

in essence yes
or even if there is a running arm version all we would really need is the install.wim...nothing else is really super important
But I am thinking that Microsoft is being strict with ARM because they may be designing it specifically for oems, so they may not have a general vendor license like with Microsoft laptops/computer/netbook

Yes Win8 will support ARM. No, the current dev build does not contain that code. The build number will be higher, they don't even have the setup done for ARM support yet. Windows 8 is not Windows 7 and will not be bound by the same restrictions when it comes to hardware as previous Windows versions have been. This includes application development. It will be easier then ever to create applications by simply using HTML5 and CSS3 for example.
When Windows 8 ARM support code does make its way into our hands I will be pushing this onto Tegra2 (Atrix4G) hardware asap. Stay tuned, because as soon as MS gives me the code I'm working on the port/drivers. Because these devices are SoC's you are not going to run into the same level of hardware issues with drivers as you may have previously. With a SoC, your support for that ARM SoC will/should include support for the entire SoC, nothing less. You should expect that at least. This includes, audio, video, network, etc. Everything is included on chip now. Welcome to the future folks. Forget what you thought it took to build a computer and realize that now everything is built onto a single chip die. It's really impressive. So impressive that IBM is now stacking these SoC's together with 3M adhesive which dessipates heat. This means you can have a CPU up to 1000 times faster than we have now and still not use up hardly any power or physical space in the package. Times are changing for sure.
Sent from Atrix4G Mobile

{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Sent from Atrix4G Mobile

Related

Android + Existing Phones = ??

Yeah, Google has just announced that Android is a platform there is no real GPhone. ok. I'm sure a lot of us are more than interested in getting this platform on our existing phone.
My question to those who understand the internals of our existing HTC phones. Is there hope for us to scrap WinMo and put Android instead. Their website makes it sound like it can be done.
What do you think?
I don't know the answer to that, but it sure seems like it, e specially since Sprint and other carriers are also joining hte Open handset alliance, they may provide support for linking Android with their services and configuration. I can't wait.
Wasn't there a pooled $$ reward that someone set up for the first person who could get Win XP running on the new Intel macs (prior to bootcamp). I suggest a similar motivational scheme (if necessary) to compensate whoever can accomplish a similar feat: getting Android to run on existing HTC hardware.
Anyone interested?
That would be super cool. I mean, I really can't wait...
What if we start a fund-raiser managed by the admins to request donations from members towards the reward? I'm sure that would be even more motivating.
Pool
I would love to start a pool too! The only problem is there are too many devices to support. With getting XP to run on an Intel mac, they all run the same hardware. My Athena is a lot different then somebodies universal or wizard. I'm guessing it will be just like the efforts to port linux over to our handsets. I'm hoping for my device to be able to run it but it would be a huge effort to be able to support all the devices.
MWillis561 said:
I would love to start a pool too! The only problem is there are too many devices to support. With getting XP to run on an Intel mac, they all run the same hardware. My Athena is a lot different then somebodies universal or wizard. I'm guessing it will be just like the efforts to port linux over to our handsets. I'm hoping for my device to be able to run it but it would be a huge effort to be able to support all the devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It may not be that hard (theoretically) because they (OHA) did all the ground work of getting linux to run on our devices. The work (I think) is in dealing with the customizations for each device. The min requirements they stated seem well below what most of our devices are capable of, so that shouldn't be a problem either. Maybe we'll just have to wait until a device from HTC with that ROM comes out.
WARNING!! I absolutely am talking out of no knowlege.
Forward:
is it what you expected?
source :http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=4676
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
HTC and Google are working together to release a new phone that will run on the Android platform. The phone will reportedly have a 3- by 5-inch swivel screen like the SideKick that will automatically rotate from portrait to landscape. It will have a full QWERTY keyboard as well, but the coolest part about the phone is the "time-sensitive" touch menus that will expand depending on how long the users touch the screen.
According to Engadget Mobile, this should show up sometime in the second half of 2008.
TT_boy said:
According to Engadget Mobile, this should show up sometime in the second half of 2008.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The tears are coming into my eyes. It was already possible
to use Blueangel as a linux phone two years ago without any help from HTC
http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa
It is possible, but as far as I know it, it didn't work quite well... Maybe we shall have better support when Android comes out.
dferreira said:
It is possible, but as far as I know it, it didn't work quite well...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It was still not bad, when you consider that the code
is actually written without any docs from manufacturer
by 1 person (cp15).
Just look in the xda-dev archive.
TT_boy said:
Forward:
is it what you expected?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, further speculation concludes that this is the correct rendering of that phone.
cr2 said:
The tears are coming into my eyes. It was already possible
to use Blueangel as a linux phone two years ago without any help from HTC
http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Think of this though, we're struggling at the moment dealing with stability and functionality issues with WinMo on our devices made for that platform. How much more with a totally alien OS coded by a single individual. In as much as I think it was a great achievement, I do not think it was a workable substitute for WinMo. This however presents a huge posibility ..... my .02.

[Q] Ubuntu/Windows On eLocity A7

Is it possible to get the eLocity A7 to run Ubuntu or Windows?
Windows is a no.
Window Mobile might be a possibility.
The Ubuntu idea is kind of intriguing, I think Ubuntu Netbook Remix may have actually supported the ARM processor architecture. Gonna have to look into that.
No matter what though, there will be sizable performance problems.
Windows Mobile would be amazing to dual boot on this, but along with ubuntu, it ran perfectly on my IBM 1.5 Ghz single, no reason it shouldn't run perfectly on a 1.0 Dual core
touchpr02 said:
Windows Mobile would be amazing to dual boot on this, but along with ubuntu, it ran perfectly on my IBM 1.5 Ghz single, no reason it shouldn't run perfectly on a 1.0 Dual core
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its not an apples to apples comparison. Completely different processor architecture. Completely different instruction set. Not even on the same page.
netstat_EVO said:
Its not an apples to apples comparison. Completely different processor architecture. Completely different instruction set. Not even on the same page.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's very cruel but... Moreover to port Windows Mobile we need WM SDK and sources. And the main problem - how to build drivers (between OS and hardware layers). They are not similar on android drivers and no one employee who builds our tablets will not give it to us. Never.
Simple way to get WM - go to store and buy WM tablet) Truly)
Another way - buy dual or triple-boot chinese tablet like SmartQ.
Yeah, Viewsonic has one model with dualboot - Viewsonic Viewpad 10 (don't confuse with G Tablet) with WM and ... Android 1.6
But, I think they are taking the mickey out of us))
Why would you want Windows on this device? Seriously the performance hit would cripple any use. I wondered about Ubuntu or more realistically another type of light linux like Vector linux or slackware. It would run fine on this device if as the previous poster pointed out that the arm processor is supported.
I think the issue you would run into is touch sceeen supporr and drivers. So you would be able to install and but may not be able to use.
Honestly Android is so good on this device I thnk I woupd rather focus on Honeycomb rather than another os. Why re-invent the wheel when you don't need to.
Rob
The single touch hardware of the elocity may actually make the Ubuntu multitouch drivers work smoother. I have made many a touchpad emulate multitouch in Ubuntu and now 10.04 and above supports it straight away.
Interesting idea to find out. I had Ubuntu working well on the Dell duo netbook with the flip screen, but the axis info got messed up after a reboot of Linux when the screen would flip from netbook to tablet. Other than that the accelerometer and touch (even pinch to zoom on single touch screen) worked well.
Ubuntu and Android are both based on the GNU/Linux OS. The core OS and the drivers are all the same. You can just move the driver files that are on the stock A7 to any Linux based OS with the same class CPU (arm/intel/ppc/etc). Unless it changed recently, the Linux kernel supports running drivers that are compiled for a different kernel version so you can even mis-match kernel-driver versions if you want (and are a little lucky). There isn't any reason why you can't just leave the stock A7 kernel/drivers and replace all the Android files from Ubuntu/Slackware/whatever as long as they are compiled for the right CPU class. Android is just a collection of open source software configured to work together the way Google wanted. Android isn't a real OS or even a real piece of software. It's just a very hacked up GNU/Linux OS that Google ripped off from the open source community and tried to sell. The open source license allows them to sell it, but requires that they also give the source code for free. That's why so many "unofficial" Android devices don't work with Google's apt store. Google blacklists anyone who doesn't pay them to use "their" open source software. If you removed the open source GNU/Linux from Android you would have less than 1% of the original byte count and nothing useful...
mouse2600 said:
Ubuntu and Android are both based on the GNU/Linux OS. The core OS and the drivers are all the same. You can just move the driver files that are on the stock A7 to any Linux based OS with the same class CPU (arm/intel/ppc/etc). Unless it changed recently, the Linux kernel supports running drivers that are compiled for a different kernel version so you can even mis-match kernel-driver versions if you want (and are a little lucky). There isn't any reason why you can't just leave the stock A7 kernel/drivers and replace all the Android files from Ubuntu/Slackware/whatever as long as they are compiled for the right CPU class. Android is just a collection of open source software configured to work together the way Google wanted. Android isn't a real OS or even a real piece of software. It's just a very hacked up GNU/Linux OS that Google ripped off from the open source community and tried to sell. The open source license allows them to sell it, but requires that they also give the source code for free. That's why so many "unofficial" Android devices don't work with Google's apt store. Google blacklists anyone who doesn't pay them to use "their" open source software. If you removed the open source GNU/Linux from Android you would have less than 1% of the original byte count and nothing useful...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
http://trsohmers.com/2011/03/06/how-to-run-ubuntu-on-the-motorola-xoom/
mouse2600 said:
Ubuntu and Android are both based on the GNU/Linux OS. The core OS and the drivers are all the same. You can just move the driver files that are on the stock A7 to any Linux based OS with the same class CPU (arm/intel/ppc/etc). Unless it changed recently, the Linux kernel supports running drivers that are compiled for a different kernel version so you can even mis-match kernel-driver versions if you want (and are a little lucky). There isn't any reason why you can't just leave the stock A7 kernel/drivers and replace all the Android files from Ubuntu/Slackware/whatever as long as they are compiled for the right CPU class. Android is just a collection of open source software configured to work together the way Google wanted. Android isn't a real OS or even a real piece of software. It's just a very hacked up GNU/Linux OS that Google ripped off from the open source community and tried to sell. The open source license allows them to sell it, but requires that they also give the source code for free. That's why so many "unofficial" Android devices don't work with Google's apt store. Google blacklists anyone who doesn't pay them to use "their" open source software. If you removed the open source GNU/Linux from Android you would have less than 1% of the original byte count and nothing useful...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you are on saturday night live, right? you are kidding with all this fun stuff coming out..
you should really find a new business like standup comedy or like that, its your business
Lol Is ubuntu a possibility
rombold said:
http://trsohmers.com/2011/03/06/how-to-run-ubuntu-on-the-motorola-xoom/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is also similar:
http://nexusonehacks.net/nexus-one-hacks/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-your-android/
Wonder if this is possible on the A7?
if you search xda, there are other Tegra2 devices where they already prepped a ubuntu with drivers. .but they all use VNC as screen, it seems not one want to use the primary screen, they want a dual setup
i think even XOOM got the solution, which i think you can use too. (the guide i mean)
http://androlinux.com/
Anyone taken a look into this?

[W8 32b - TF810c] Blueastacks does not work :(

I have tried both Win7 and Win8 versions and no luck at all .
If I start Bluestack directly all I get is black screen with touch icons at the bottom of the window.
The only one that works is screen maximize.
If I start if through attached app I either get above mentioned black screen or it says loading and afterwards again goes to black screen.
Any ideas what I could do?
Does it allow to access Google Play (and apps I have already bought)?
No, it doesn't work. There might be an issue with the video drivers, HP envy x2 has some newer ones but they are buggy and make the screen flicker. Also might be that bluestacks is still beta.
Either way at how much CPU this program will use to emulate even the simplest apps I doubt it will be actually worth it.
Bec07 said:
Either way at how much CPU this program will use to emulate even the simplest apps I doubt it will be actually worth it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is a copy and paste of a bit of text I wrote elsewhere:
Me_In_Another_Thread said:
Bluestacks involves ZERO emulation of ARM. Android apps are run inside the dalvik virtual machine (itself a register based version of the java virtual machine). To run an android app just needs a DVM and its class library: bluestacks pretty much does this. Android native code apps do then get complicated yes but then the android NDK has a rather convenient feature that bluestacks can exploit.
NDK compiles native binaries for both x86 and ARMv7 by default (note default, you can over-ride which platforms it compiles for, I believe ARMv6, ARMv6hf, ARMv7, MIPS and x86_32 are available options although I am not 100% sure on the exact arm versions so might be wrong). Bluestacks is only running on x86 and x86_64 machines. x86_64 machines can safely run x86_32 code. So really bluestacks when it encounters a native app "just" has to run the x86 binary the NDK produces on windows/mac with a compatibility layer. Still a complex job of course.
Bluestacks still has to mess about a bit exposing hardware to "android" correctly and handling a few extra bits and pieces but generally it works rather well
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've seen bluestacks running angry birds on an intel atom based netbook. Wasn't as snappy as on a galaxy note 2 but it worked, actually played better than on my old orange san francisco/ZTE blade. Still lagged a little on level loading but once you let the physics settle down you could take your first shot no problem and carry on playing from there. Envy uses a newer gen of intel atoms anyway which are supposedly much better.
I haven't had the screen issues with bluestacks myself but I run it on a full desktop PC with updated drivers and a dedicated GPU etc.
I see what you mean, in the end it might be worth it. All I did was send an error report to Bluestacks but I think more can be done.
The HP Envy X2 uses the Atom Z2760 SoC, as does the VivoTab and all Atom windows 8 tablets to date (the ones released in the past few months to be precise). The latest Envy driver pack installs without issues but instead may cause some. Namely with docking, sometimes the 2nd battery won't be recognized and charged, the mousepad might behave strange and screen flickering that occurs randomly but is easily fixed, (standby->back from standby).
You can give it a try but I recommend backing up your current drivers.
Not working on my vaio as well.In fact it is failing during installation due to graphics card compatibility.Mine is ATI Radeon 7670M..what could be the problem?
galtom said:
I have tried both Win7 and Win8 versions and no luck at all .
If I start Bluestack directly all I get is black screen with touch icons at the bottom of the window.
The only one that works is screen maximize.
If I start if through attached app I either get above mentioned black screen or it says loading and afterwards again goes to black screen.
Any ideas what I could do?
Does it allow to access Google Play (and apps I have already bought)?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try Jar of Beans
I find it better than bluestacks
There is a similar Project called WindowsAndroid
Thanks, The ill try that.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
I had to use an older version (beta 1, iirc) for it to work on my Vivotab smart. Performance was a dog though.
goofball2k said:
I had to use an older version (beta 1, iirc) for it to work on my Vivotab smart. Performance was a dog though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Works great on my Surface Pro! Even with Instagram!
EMINENT1 said:
Works great on my Surface Pro! Even with Instagram!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For 3 hours or so?
Bec07 said:
For 3 hours or so?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes! Along with Flash video and multiple windows at the same time!
You know with true multitasking, I get three things done 3 times faster, just in time for the 3 hrs.
Yeah, so does the TF810C, it's an X86 cpu and it plays flash like the ARM version for 10 hours or so... You know, like a real tablet, not something as heavy as a netbook with 1/3 of the battery life.
Do you even have a relevant contribution for this thread?
Pots and kettles, Bec07. If you don't like a mobile computer with a 5-hour battery life, that's your call... but it's even less relevant to the thread than what EMINENT1 is posting. Keep it civil and keep it on topic, please.
EMINENT1 said:
Works great on my Surface Pro! Even with Instagram!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sure given Surface Pro has a much faster processor than the Z2760. TF810C doesn't run the same processor as the Surface Pro though, it runs the same Atom as the Vivotab Smart so OP may find performance not acceptable.
I tried BS on a samsung S7 with an i5 processor. It worked fine, I guess, but the screen resolution in BS was bad.
Uninstalling it was a pain. The uninstaller froze every time and did nothing. I had just created an image so I will just restore that instead of messing with the uninstaller.
BS is definitely in beta stages...
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app
It works on my TF810C
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
edgarpo said:
It works on my TF810C
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good to know. I am considering getting one. That said, I dont really need bluestacks but then I guess there isnt a reason to not get it.
Can bluestacks apps be installed to microSD rather than the internal storage?
Why not try Jar of Beans.
It works fine for me on Win7 and Win8. Plus it has full Play Store support, root, etc....
the_scotsman said:
Why not try Jar of Beans.
It works fine for me on Win7 and Win8. Plus it has full Play Store support, root, etc....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The TF810C does not have HAXM support. It will be a slow experience.

Android compatibility confirmed and more!

http://jolla.com/media/documents/130916_press_release.pdf
Sailfish OS runs on common Android hardware
Jolla has made a major breakthrough in Android hardware compatibility by developing Sailfish OS to run on
common hardware produced for Android, particularly smartphones and tablets. Vendors interested to utilize
Sailfish OS are now able to develop phones and tablets based on many different chipset and hardware
configurations. This new level of compatibility will enable device vendors who use Sailfish OS to fully utilize the
existing Android hardware ecosystem.
Jolla believes that this breakthrough offers growth opportunities of significant scale for Sailfish OS globally,
especially in China. “We believe Sailfish with Android compatibility is a highly relevant mobile operating system
option for major mobile companies in Europe and in Asia. We are already in discussions with several major Asian
vendors regarding this opportunity,” says Tomi Pienimäki.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I really hope that now I can get an Android port for my Xperia T
I was actually just recently imagining sailfish running on my gnex, hope it can became a reality, or even on the future nexus 5 or G2. Now that would be awesome.
zacomaco said:
I was actually just recently imagining sailfish running on my gnex, hope it can became a reality, or even on the future nexus 5 or G2. Now that would be awesome.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If installing the OS on android hw by us will be that easy than how would they make money? Hopefully other companies will pay for it.
goosebumps4 said:
If installing the OS on android hw by us will be that easy than how would they make money? Hopefully other companies will pay for it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mainly for exposure and to create interest like ubuntu attempted with their builds for the nexus devices earlier in the year.
uh oh! will you look at all those apps.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Arty. said:
uh oh! will you look at all those apps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Congrats to all jolla fans. Now i will see around about the most wright android device to buy and install jolla on it =
Apparently they will announce the specs this week
(http://m.digitoday.fi/?page=showSingleNews&newsID=201312920 ... use google translate )
Was going to come here and write about this but you were faster! Couldn't do it at work. But most importantly, just tipped this! Hopefully we'll see it in XDA portal/news
-.-SayaN-.- said:
So possible to run dual boot :angel: :fingers-crossed:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well looks like Sailfish OS will support nexus devices in the near future!!!
View attachment 2265880
https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/380226774698696704
zacomaco said:
well looks like Sailfish OS will support nexus devices in the near future!!!
View attachment 2265880
https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/380226774698696704
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
without the official support of jolla.
Is there any hardware restriction of jolla OS?
Or the list of device which are available to run this OS smoothly like a charm?
Nope, but Jolla show us last year, that sailfish os works good on nokia N950/N9. N9 has 1 Ghz single Core and 1GB Ram.
kevin12lin said:
Or the list of device which are available to run this OS smoothly like a charm?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sailfish is not available, so there is such list. There is no source code, and no binaries available.
Sailfish OS will you libhybris for running on top of android hw.
here is QML demo on Qt5 on libhybris on Qualcomm chipset.
So atleast there is no major problems with 3D aceleration
don't get it
why do we need a whole new OS? if the apps and the HW is android, why not just create an elaborate android skin and be done with it? by the end of the day, this is what it is- a glorified android skin...
BTW, this is just a comment, not an attack...
natalietsur said:
why do we need a whole new OS? if the apps and the HW is android, why not just create an elaborate android skin and be done with it? by the end of the day, this is what it is- a glorified android skin...
BTW, this is just a comment, not an attack...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why another android skin? Why not create a whole new OS? If, 5 years ago, Google think like you today we haven't Android. It's the same story that repeat itself again, again and again...
natalietsur said:
why do we need a whole new OS? if the apps and the HW is android, why not just create an elaborate android skin and be done with it? by the end of the day, this is what it is- a glorified android skin...
BTW, this is just a comment, not an attack...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
SailfishOS is free as in freedom, Android is not that free
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk
Someone posted instructions on how to port the SDK image of Sailfish over to N9 on jollausers.com . This is only the basic UI and it's missing all the main Jolla apps like calls, maps, mail, browser, sms, camera, etc.. It's just for dev's so they can test their apps.
From that page comments section
username mike7b4 his comment lays it down for you:
--
Notice that Jolla will never have full resources to FULLY port Sailfishos to N9.
What they will do is probadly update the image guide at merproject wiki how to make sailfish image from kickstart file etc…
Then its upto the community to make:
1. GFX driver with Wayland work smooth most important issue. So if you are a GFX hacker start work
2. Make GPS work (those bits are closed source so we have to reverse engineer that stuff because GPS lacks public specs how the Nokia propirairity binary protocol works
3. Make NFC work (same here the daemon in Harmattan is closed source, maybe we can use midlayer from android via libhybris or rewite from scratch)
4. Make sure dialing/sms works and make an UI or use nemo UI because AFAIK that bits is not included in sailfishSDK?
5. Settings app for wifi etc.. Here we can probadly reuse nemo settings apps that is okey
6. Make camera work again right now its not working sice X11 -> Wayland AFAIK
7. Make wifi working(it actually works we just need to make the nemo settings app work)
8. Make USB SDK mode not disconnect
Stuff that we probadly never will see:
1. Core sailfish apps like GPS app/cameraapp and so on.
2. Android Compability layer.
But right now the most important step IMHO is to make sure USB/Wifi connections works so developers can test our sailfish apps on a real device when waiting for our Jollas
--
I'm not a developer but this guy sounds like he knows what needs to be done.

windows 10 mobile to android

can anyone please tell me the way to convert windows phone to android...????
my phone is lumia 730 dual sim ..i have seen lot of links and searched a lot but i cant find and any answer
ashishakash said:
can anyone please tell me the way to convert windows phone to android...????
my phone is lumia 730 dual sim ..i have seen lot of links and searched a lot but i cant find and any answer
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have no idea why you would even want to do that, what a waste of a perfectly good phone that would be. Android SUCKS, having said that I'm fairly certain nobody has done that yet (and even if they did manage to, it will be plagued with driver issues). If you are really serious about running Android stuff on it, I would look at the Android for Windows bridge, some people have got a bunch of apps running on top of win10m.
darkfires said:
I have no idea why you would even want to do that, what a waste of a perfectly good phone that would be. Android SUCKS
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does that explain why windows phone has 80% market share? Oh wait...
recently MS released WM10 roms for mi phones which worked really well , so if we are able to tweak those roms and firmware , we might be able to port them to other android devices
I would rather looking forward to run Windows 10 Mobile on Android Device.
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA-Developers mobile app
I hope we see growth in this type of emulation. Just look at Winulator. That project had so much promise but it was just 1 guy and he abandoned it citing problems with piracy. If that app was perfected you could literally run 99% of directx games ever made natively on any decently powered Android device without having to buy a Surface or some other overpriced MS product. MS still has the gaming industry by the balls, has been that way since we were forced to go to windows 95 because games were developed that wouldn't run on 3.11 anymore.
You can install ANDROID on Lumia Devices now https://youtu.be/cRt575WRzt8
Lololololololol
darkfires said:
I have no idea why you would even want to do that, what a waste of a perfectly good phone that would be. Android SUCKS, having said that I'm fairly certain nobody has done that yet (and even if they did manage to, it will be plagued with driver issues). If you are really serious about running Android stuff on it, I would look at the Android for Windows bridge, some people have got a bunch of apps running on top of win10m.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOOOOOOL ---- Why dont you check Android sales -vs- windows phone sale and see who the winner is?! I'm willing to bet $5000 cash that anything you can do on your windows phone I can do better, faster, & more complete with my Android. In other words, put your money where your mouth is!
HEIL WINDOWS
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
You can't have 10 apps on the home screen showing live notifications (live tiles) has the Windows 10 mobile does...
When will you pay me?
Convert Windows to Android
ashishakash said:
can anyone please tell me the way to convert windows phone to android...????
my phone is lumia 730 dual sim ..i have seen lot of links and searched a lot but i cant find and any answer
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In my opinion you should not convert your windows phone to an android. Rather you should buy a new android phone. But if you really are not open to buying a new one so try this Android View App. In this way you can at least get the Android UI on your windows phone.
AiOGajo said:
You can't have 10 apps on the home screen showing live notifications (live tiles) has the Windows 10 mobile does...
When will you pay me?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
uh yeah you pretty much can. depends on what you mean by "live tiles" but there are def launchers with live icons and if you really wanted to you could code a live tile launcher that works exactly the same without too much trouble. i had a nokia lumina 710 running wp7 years ago. it was an awful piece of garbage. there was no app development for it at all (not even instagram lol) and even after modding there was very little you could do with it. im sure the platform has progressed since then but nothing beats the huge amount of rom and app dev for android. android is definitely the most flexible and capable mobile operating system but i wouldnt mind having a little side chick windows phone to play with.
as for OP.....yeah probably not gonna happen anytime soon. nobody has time to completely rewrite all the drivers and kernels and firmware and what not from the ground up as is necessary for running an operating system that is systemically varied from the software the hardware was made with in mind. someone mentioned that there was some kind of official builds for some devices and they are right its possible those roms could be ported or something, def your best hope but dont hold your breath

Categories

Resources