I have tried both Win7 and Win8 versions and no luck at all .
If I start Bluestack directly all I get is black screen with touch icons at the bottom of the window.
The only one that works is screen maximize.
If I start if through attached app I either get above mentioned black screen or it says loading and afterwards again goes to black screen.
Any ideas what I could do?
Does it allow to access Google Play (and apps I have already bought)?
No, it doesn't work. There might be an issue with the video drivers, HP envy x2 has some newer ones but they are buggy and make the screen flicker. Also might be that bluestacks is still beta.
Either way at how much CPU this program will use to emulate even the simplest apps I doubt it will be actually worth it.
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Either way at how much CPU this program will use to emulate even the simplest apps I doubt it will be actually worth it.
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Bluestacks involves ZERO emulation of ARM. Android apps are run inside the dalvik virtual machine (itself a register based version of the java virtual machine). To run an android app just needs a DVM and its class library: bluestacks pretty much does this. Android native code apps do then get complicated yes but then the android NDK has a rather convenient feature that bluestacks can exploit.
NDK compiles native binaries for both x86 and ARMv7 by default (note default, you can over-ride which platforms it compiles for, I believe ARMv6, ARMv6hf, ARMv7, MIPS and x86_32 are available options although I am not 100% sure on the exact arm versions so might be wrong). Bluestacks is only running on x86 and x86_64 machines. x86_64 machines can safely run x86_32 code. So really bluestacks when it encounters a native app "just" has to run the x86 binary the NDK produces on windows/mac with a compatibility layer. Still a complex job of course.
Bluestacks still has to mess about a bit exposing hardware to "android" correctly and handling a few extra bits and pieces but generally it works rather well
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I've seen bluestacks running angry birds on an intel atom based netbook. Wasn't as snappy as on a galaxy note 2 but it worked, actually played better than on my old orange san francisco/ZTE blade. Still lagged a little on level loading but once you let the physics settle down you could take your first shot no problem and carry on playing from there. Envy uses a newer gen of intel atoms anyway which are supposedly much better.
I haven't had the screen issues with bluestacks myself but I run it on a full desktop PC with updated drivers and a dedicated GPU etc.
I see what you mean, in the end it might be worth it. All I did was send an error report to Bluestacks but I think more can be done.
The HP Envy X2 uses the Atom Z2760 SoC, as does the VivoTab and all Atom windows 8 tablets to date (the ones released in the past few months to be precise). The latest Envy driver pack installs without issues but instead may cause some. Namely with docking, sometimes the 2nd battery won't be recognized and charged, the mousepad might behave strange and screen flickering that occurs randomly but is easily fixed, (standby->back from standby).
You can give it a try but I recommend backing up your current drivers.
Not working on my vaio as well.In fact it is failing during installation due to graphics card compatibility.Mine is ATI Radeon 7670M..what could be the problem?
galtom said:
I have tried both Win7 and Win8 versions and no luck at all .
If I start Bluestack directly all I get is black screen with touch icons at the bottom of the window.
The only one that works is screen maximize.
If I start if through attached app I either get above mentioned black screen or it says loading and afterwards again goes to black screen.
Any ideas what I could do?
Does it allow to access Google Play (and apps I have already bought)?
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Try Jar of Beans
I find it better than bluestacks
There is a similar Project called WindowsAndroid
Thanks, The ill try that.
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I had to use an older version (beta 1, iirc) for it to work on my Vivotab smart. Performance was a dog though.
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I had to use an older version (beta 1, iirc) for it to work on my Vivotab smart. Performance was a dog though.
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Works great on my Surface Pro! Even with Instagram!
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Works great on my Surface Pro! Even with Instagram!
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For 3 hours or so?
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For 3 hours or so?
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Yes! Along with Flash video and multiple windows at the same time!
You know with true multitasking, I get three things done 3 times faster, just in time for the 3 hrs.
Yeah, so does the TF810C, it's an X86 cpu and it plays flash like the ARM version for 10 hours or so... You know, like a real tablet, not something as heavy as a netbook with 1/3 of the battery life.
Do you even have a relevant contribution for this thread?
Pots and kettles, Bec07. If you don't like a mobile computer with a 5-hour battery life, that's your call... but it's even less relevant to the thread than what EMINENT1 is posting. Keep it civil and keep it on topic, please.
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Works great on my Surface Pro! Even with Instagram!
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I'm sure given Surface Pro has a much faster processor than the Z2760. TF810C doesn't run the same processor as the Surface Pro though, it runs the same Atom as the Vivotab Smart so OP may find performance not acceptable.
I tried BS on a samsung S7 with an i5 processor. It worked fine, I guess, but the screen resolution in BS was bad.
Uninstalling it was a pain. The uninstaller froze every time and did nothing. I had just created an image so I will just restore that instead of messing with the uninstaller.
BS is definitely in beta stages...
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It works on my TF810C
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Good to know. I am considering getting one. That said, I dont really need bluestacks but then I guess there isnt a reason to not get it.
Can bluestacks apps be installed to microSD rather than the internal storage?
Why not try Jar of Beans.
It works fine for me on Win7 and Win8. Plus it has full Play Store support, root, etc....
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Why not try Jar of Beans.
It works fine for me on Win7 and Win8. Plus it has full Play Store support, root, etc....
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The TF810C does not have HAXM support. It will be a slow experience.
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Is it possible to get the eLocity A7 to run Ubuntu or Windows?
Windows is a no.
Window Mobile might be a possibility.
The Ubuntu idea is kind of intriguing, I think Ubuntu Netbook Remix may have actually supported the ARM processor architecture. Gonna have to look into that.
No matter what though, there will be sizable performance problems.
Windows Mobile would be amazing to dual boot on this, but along with ubuntu, it ran perfectly on my IBM 1.5 Ghz single, no reason it shouldn't run perfectly on a 1.0 Dual core
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Windows Mobile would be amazing to dual boot on this, but along with ubuntu, it ran perfectly on my IBM 1.5 Ghz single, no reason it shouldn't run perfectly on a 1.0 Dual core
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Its not an apples to apples comparison. Completely different processor architecture. Completely different instruction set. Not even on the same page.
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Its not an apples to apples comparison. Completely different processor architecture. Completely different instruction set. Not even on the same page.
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It's very cruel but... Moreover to port Windows Mobile we need WM SDK and sources. And the main problem - how to build drivers (between OS and hardware layers). They are not similar on android drivers and no one employee who builds our tablets will not give it to us. Never.
Simple way to get WM - go to store and buy WM tablet) Truly)
Another way - buy dual or triple-boot chinese tablet like SmartQ.
Yeah, Viewsonic has one model with dualboot - Viewsonic Viewpad 10 (don't confuse with G Tablet) with WM and ... Android 1.6
But, I think they are taking the mickey out of us))
Why would you want Windows on this device? Seriously the performance hit would cripple any use. I wondered about Ubuntu or more realistically another type of light linux like Vector linux or slackware. It would run fine on this device if as the previous poster pointed out that the arm processor is supported.
I think the issue you would run into is touch sceeen supporr and drivers. So you would be able to install and but may not be able to use.
Honestly Android is so good on this device I thnk I woupd rather focus on Honeycomb rather than another os. Why re-invent the wheel when you don't need to.
Rob
The single touch hardware of the elocity may actually make the Ubuntu multitouch drivers work smoother. I have made many a touchpad emulate multitouch in Ubuntu and now 10.04 and above supports it straight away.
Interesting idea to find out. I had Ubuntu working well on the Dell duo netbook with the flip screen, but the axis info got messed up after a reboot of Linux when the screen would flip from netbook to tablet. Other than that the accelerometer and touch (even pinch to zoom on single touch screen) worked well.
Ubuntu and Android are both based on the GNU/Linux OS. The core OS and the drivers are all the same. You can just move the driver files that are on the stock A7 to any Linux based OS with the same class CPU (arm/intel/ppc/etc). Unless it changed recently, the Linux kernel supports running drivers that are compiled for a different kernel version so you can even mis-match kernel-driver versions if you want (and are a little lucky). There isn't any reason why you can't just leave the stock A7 kernel/drivers and replace all the Android files from Ubuntu/Slackware/whatever as long as they are compiled for the right CPU class. Android is just a collection of open source software configured to work together the way Google wanted. Android isn't a real OS or even a real piece of software. It's just a very hacked up GNU/Linux OS that Google ripped off from the open source community and tried to sell. The open source license allows them to sell it, but requires that they also give the source code for free. That's why so many "unofficial" Android devices don't work with Google's apt store. Google blacklists anyone who doesn't pay them to use "their" open source software. If you removed the open source GNU/Linux from Android you would have less than 1% of the original byte count and nothing useful...
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Ubuntu and Android are both based on the GNU/Linux OS. The core OS and the drivers are all the same. You can just move the driver files that are on the stock A7 to any Linux based OS with the same class CPU (arm/intel/ppc/etc). Unless it changed recently, the Linux kernel supports running drivers that are compiled for a different kernel version so you can even mis-match kernel-driver versions if you want (and are a little lucky). There isn't any reason why you can't just leave the stock A7 kernel/drivers and replace all the Android files from Ubuntu/Slackware/whatever as long as they are compiled for the right CPU class. Android is just a collection of open source software configured to work together the way Google wanted. Android isn't a real OS or even a real piece of software. It's just a very hacked up GNU/Linux OS that Google ripped off from the open source community and tried to sell. The open source license allows them to sell it, but requires that they also give the source code for free. That's why so many "unofficial" Android devices don't work with Google's apt store. Google blacklists anyone who doesn't pay them to use "their" open source software. If you removed the open source GNU/Linux from Android you would have less than 1% of the original byte count and nothing useful...
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Ubuntu and Android are both based on the GNU/Linux OS. The core OS and the drivers are all the same. You can just move the driver files that are on the stock A7 to any Linux based OS with the same class CPU (arm/intel/ppc/etc). Unless it changed recently, the Linux kernel supports running drivers that are compiled for a different kernel version so you can even mis-match kernel-driver versions if you want (and are a little lucky). There isn't any reason why you can't just leave the stock A7 kernel/drivers and replace all the Android files from Ubuntu/Slackware/whatever as long as they are compiled for the right CPU class. Android is just a collection of open source software configured to work together the way Google wanted. Android isn't a real OS or even a real piece of software. It's just a very hacked up GNU/Linux OS that Google ripped off from the open source community and tried to sell. The open source license allows them to sell it, but requires that they also give the source code for free. That's why so many "unofficial" Android devices don't work with Google's apt store. Google blacklists anyone who doesn't pay them to use "their" open source software. If you removed the open source GNU/Linux from Android you would have less than 1% of the original byte count and nothing useful...
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you are on saturday night live, right? you are kidding with all this fun stuff coming out..
you should really find a new business like standup comedy or like that, its your business
Lol Is ubuntu a possibility
rombold said:
http://trsohmers.com/2011/03/06/how-to-run-ubuntu-on-the-motorola-xoom/
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This is also similar:
http://nexusonehacks.net/nexus-one-hacks/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-your-android/
Wonder if this is possible on the A7?
if you search xda, there are other Tegra2 devices where they already prepped a ubuntu with drivers. .but they all use VNC as screen, it seems not one want to use the primary screen, they want a dual setup
i think even XOOM got the solution, which i think you can use too. (the guide i mean)
http://androlinux.com/
Anyone taken a look into this?
The new windows 8 will have arm tegra support, will I be able to install windows 8 on my xoom?
we'll see when it comes out.
The first public beta should be out within a month or so, and if you know where to look you should be able to find the very early alpha/beta leaks. I have no idea what level of work would be required to boot it on existing hardware or even if it's possible with the kit we have today
As far as I know, the main idea of windows 8 was the ability to run on a MUCH LARGER range of devices and architectures. They demoed win 8 on a ARM tablet a long time ago. Who knows what they have accomplished since then. All i know is that we would have a lot of re-partitioning to do on our xooms to fit win 8 on our limited /system partitions. But then again, idk if it will run on a Linux kernel. I only know the basics.
Just my 2¢
It could be run native, but I don't think it'll happen. The biggest loophole for Windows Phone 7 to be ported to Android is the fact that it's closed source. Therefore, there isn't been any developer trying to get WP7 running on an Android-phone. And therefore, I think the same loophole applies for Windows 8.
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It could be run native, but I don't think it'll happen. The biggest loophole for Windows Phone 7 to be ported to Android is the fact that it's closed source. Therefore, there isn't been any developer trying to get WP7 running on an Android-phone. And therefore, I think the same loophole applies for Windows 8.
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I totally forgot about it being closed source. >.> ....Well if win8 is put on a tegra device nativley(spelling?), then could porting it to our device be easier?
Yes, then it would be easier. Someone ported WebOS to an Android-phone that had nearly the same hardware despite being closed source, so it COULD be possible if it was put on Tegra2. But I doubt that, since Kal El is coming.
Its not windows 8 running on tegra...its the drivers....i don;t know who is gonna go through all the troubles making specific drivers for xoom...only thing i could hope for is that windows 8 has a big database for generic drivers that works...
well windows 8 dev downloads are available at 8pm PT (2hours from now) would we know about preloaded generic drivers then?
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well windows 8 dev downloads are available at 8pm PT (2hours from now) would we know about preloaded generic drivers then?
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As per Engadget's review of win 8
ARM devices will be supported, but not in the developer preview
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I have the dev build, if I put it on a usb stick can't I just set my xoom to boot from usb
Kidding, Kidding. Anyway, I was thinking that since the xoom supports USB host, and should supports ARM, it should be installable like a normal computer if you can somehow boot the installer - and assuming there is at least basic driver support for the necessities.
I suppose they would also need to release an ARM build.
in essence yes
or even if there is a running arm version all we would really need is the install.wim...nothing else is really super important
But I am thinking that Microsoft is being strict with ARM because they may be designing it specifically for oems, so they may not have a general vendor license like with Microsoft laptops/computer/netbook
Yes Win8 will support ARM. No, the current dev build does not contain that code. The build number will be higher, they don't even have the setup done for ARM support yet. Windows 8 is not Windows 7 and will not be bound by the same restrictions when it comes to hardware as previous Windows versions have been. This includes application development. It will be easier then ever to create applications by simply using HTML5 and CSS3 for example.
When Windows 8 ARM support code does make its way into our hands I will be pushing this onto Tegra2 (Atrix4G) hardware asap. Stay tuned, because as soon as MS gives me the code I'm working on the port/drivers. Because these devices are SoC's you are not going to run into the same level of hardware issues with drivers as you may have previously. With a SoC, your support for that ARM SoC will/should include support for the entire SoC, nothing less. You should expect that at least. This includes, audio, video, network, etc. Everything is included on chip now. Welcome to the future folks. Forget what you thought it took to build a computer and realize that now everything is built onto a single chip die. It's really impressive. So impressive that IBM is now stacking these SoC's together with 3M adhesive which dessipates heat. This means you can have a CPU up to 1000 times faster than we have now and still not use up hardly any power or physical space in the package. Times are changing for sure.
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I know there are guides for this with android smart phones but can you install windows XP on a kindle fire?
fiddlefaddle said:
I know there are guides for this with android smart phones but can you install windows XP on a kindle fire?
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Wrong section ;D
Why in god's name would you want winXP instead of Android? I am dumbfounded.
I'll get back to you in a few hours. But it's probably very easy.
Pkt_Lnt said:
Why in god's name would you want winXP instead of Android? I am dumbfounded.
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I have my reasons..
Jessical said:
I'll get back to you in a few hours. But it's probably very easy.
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Thanks hope to hear from you soon.
ARM processor cannot handle Windows. So this is impossible
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ARM processor cannot handle Windows. So this is impossible
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I have heard it can be done on other devices... it is just a matter of whether or not your specs can handle windows.
I leave my work laptop on 24/7 just so I can use splashtop remote desktop. pretty much the same thing as having windows installed the app works so well. Have many of my co-workers convinced my Kindle can duel boot into Windows. Also use the app to stream hd video and audio from the computer. Evan if my Kindle is tethered to my Triumph over VM's network, now that is saying something. lol
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I have heard it can be done on other devices... it is just a matter of whether or not your specs can handle windows.
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Never heard about that. As far as I know, Windows 8 is the only OS build for the ARM processor. X86 and ARM are difference architect so they could not work with each other just google for more information
lol yes I have splash top... but I do not like it all that much... not in a house with 12 ppl in it... they tend to disconnect me
I can get Bochs on my Kindle, but my Mac is being all weird and won't make the IMG, otherwise you can pretty much follow this guide and maybe give it more RAM to work with:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1465365
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I can get Bochs on my Kindle, but my Mac is being all weird and won't make the IMG, otherwise you can pretty much follow this guide and maybe give it more RAM to work with:
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OK thanks.. I will probably give it a shot...
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Never heard about that. As far as I know, Windows 8 is the only OS build for the ARM processor. X86 and ARM are difference architect so they could not work with each other just google for more information
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XP is indeed x86/64, but there are x86 emulators for the ARM platform. The only issue is that you will lose a great deal of efficiency by emulating the platform.
chairshot is simply connecting via remote desktop to a native x86 computer running XP. This is prob the best way to do it on KF.
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I have heard it can be done on other devices... it is just a matter of whether or not your specs can handle windows.
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I think the author is referring to this article posted here XDA:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/make-windows-9598xp-and-linux-run-on-evo-3d/
It links you to a thread in EVO 3D forums:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459153
I skimmed through the article but it seems that Win is running in a virtual environment. Seems interesting.
April 1st is still a week and a half way..
Oh ya wrong section.. mods please move
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April 1st is still a week and a half way..
Oh ya wrong section.. mods please move
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Thats march 1st bro
Thanks OP -- gives me the opportunity to post this -- I dont dare do it in a new thread
I want to be able to run Android 1.0 on my G2/Vision.
I want to be able to run Android 1.5 on my G2/Vision
I want to be able to run Android 1.6 on my G2/Vision
I want to be able to run Android 2.0 on my G2/Vision
I have been told in the past that in order for this to happen I need to reverse engineer all the drivers and configure them to work with the G2/Vision.
My G2/Vision is really mad at my G1/Dream because the G1/Dream is running everything under the moon and the G2/Vision wants to go back in time.
I know this sounds like a sarcastic post but I cant be more serious than this. I just took the chance to post it in a "Want to run XP on my Android" (typing this from my laptop running Win 8 Dev) and I mean, it blows away Windows 7 and by default, kills, crushes and destroys XP.
OMG... I've almost got it! So close... Windows IS awesome!!!
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OMG... I've almost got it! So close... Windows IS awesome!!!
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What exactly do you mean?
this whole thread just makes my brain hurt. So much missed sarcasm....so much "id like to run this OS on this device that it wasnt made for, that virtually no one else has done. But im hoping by asking here (also in the wrong section) that someone who hasnt come forward on any other device can share their witchcraft with me".
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Enjoy!
I am sold for the Intel version . Finally something that can replace my 8 years old Toshiba tablet!
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/18/3...d:+WinRumors+(WinRumors)&utm_content=FaceBook
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/18/3094157/new-microsoft-surface-windows-tablet
Would've liked it bigger, still good anyways.
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http://surface.com
Enjoy!
I am sold for the Intel version . Finally something that can replace my 8 years old Toshiba tablet!
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/18/3...d:+WinRumors+(WinRumors)&utm_content=FaceBook
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Reading my mind my man! I'm looking to replace my X60 tablet. Stoked about the USB port to run my external DVD/CD combo unit.
I'm all over the Pro model....too bad it won't come out for a while. I'd really like to finally realize my "tablet on the go, PC at home" dreams
Definitely getting a Pro if the specs allow me to run the desktop apps I need, Solidworks probably being the most hungry of them.
Now that's what im talking about, finally, looks like MS sacked their old marketing department
If the hardware matches the ad quality then consider one unit sold!
Even with Windows 8, which i don't like, the Microsoft Surface Pro looks really nice.
i cannot justify the existence of a Windows RT device, but windows 8 x86 on a tablet is pretty decent. I have a feeling that the price on these is going ot be too high to even bother with.
EDIT: and seriously, why the "surface" name? are they killing off the old micosoft surface?
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Even with Windows 8, which i don't like, the Microsoft Surface Pro looks really nice.
i cannot justify the existence of a Windows RT device, but windows 8 x86 on a tablet is pretty decent. I have a feeling that the price on these is going ot be too high to even bother with.
EDIT: and seriously, why the "surface" name? are they killing off the old micosoft surface?
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I think the old Surface was the stepping stone to this one.
In 2007 Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were asked about the future portable devices, Bill answered he imagined a "tablet form-factor" in which touch was the main interface person-device (this was all before Apple announced the first iPad, mind you). He also mentioned MS were working on something like this but the proyects weren't good enough to release because he imagined people needed something to type and write on, Digital Ink, I guess this is what he had in mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UeLk6vmbtM
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EDIT: and seriously, why the "surface" name? are they killing off the old micosoft surface?
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The old Microsoft Surface table is now called 'modelname' with Microsoft PixelSense (like the Samsung SUR40 with Microsoft PixelSense).
So, the name is inherited from one big touch device to a smaller, more consumer oriented one.
This will be a hit or a miss.
Or they will be very succesfull (as a (cheaper?) alternative to the Ipad).
Or they will screw it up with a lack of compatibility/bugs/exclusive apps/.....
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If I can run SolidWorks on the Slate...OMFG. SOLD.
If the GPU will have enough power then yes, you will run there anything
I suppose we'll have to wait and see.
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Apparently we won't have to wait. I just watched the keynote and at 26:30, SolidWorks is specifically mentioned as capable of being run on Surface. SWEET.
Link: http://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+slashgear+(SlashGear)
kenikh said:
Apparently we won't have to wait. I just watched the keynote and at 26:30, SolidWorks is specifically mentioned as capable of being run on Surface. SWEET.
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I watched the keynote too. At about 13:30 - 14:30 minute mark, you'll see the system crash and become unresponsive. The presenter had to grab a backup tablet to continue.
I doubt this bodes well for the system.
ohgood said:
I watched the keynote too. At about 13:30 - 14:30 minute mark, you'll see the system crash and become unresponsive. The presenter had to grab a backup tablet to continue.
I doubt this bodes well for the system.
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I've been running Microsoft software as dogfood for over a decade. I'm not worried - you should have seen XP 6 months before launch. That worked out OK.
ohgood said:
I watched the keynote too. At about 13:30 - 14:30 minute mark, you'll see the system crash and become unresponsive. The presenter had to grab a backup tablet to continue.
I doubt this bodes well for the system.
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Well thats the whole thing of showing beta software right? Crashes could happen and it was not Windows which was the problem but most likely the netflix app which was probably thrown together rather quickly. They probably wanted to show it anyway so they were able to mention some "high profile" apps will be out on launch to ease the "but it has not apps! FAIL"-type of crowd.
It was quite a smart move, too bad it crashed. But thats technology… It happens. To blame Microsoft for having a software crash is kind of narrow minded as the product is far away from launch still. Anybody using any kind of smartphone/tablet knows it can almost certainly crash at some point, even the iPhone/iPads on final software. It was just a bit unfortunate it happend on stage.
Non the less, what a great product! It made my day Can't wait to test it out...
Now this is what Metro was desinged for! Though I still would never use it on a desktop or non-touch laptop but it looks great on the Surface.
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kenikh said:
Apparently we won't have to wait. I just watched the keynote and at 26:30, SolidWorks is specifically mentioned as capable of being run on Surface. SWEET.
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Thanks for the info!
Marvin_S said:
Well thats the whole thing of showing beta software right? Crashes could happen and it was not Windows which was the problem but most likely the netflix app which was probably thrown together rather quickly. They probably wanted to show it anyway so they were able to mention some "high profile" apps will be out on launch to ease the "but it has not apps! FAIL"-type of crowd.
It was quite a smart move, too bad it crashed. But thats technology… It happens. To blame Microsoft for having a software crash is kind of narrow minded as the product is far away from launch still. Anybody using any kind of smartphone/tablet knows it can almost certainly crash at some point, even the iPhone/iPads on final software. It was just a bit unfortunate it happend on stage.
Non the less, what a great product! It made my day Can't wait to test it out...
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Well, yes and no.
The app that was thrown together and crashed other things was IE, or the metro UI, or both, or something else that crashed them both. If you saw the keynote, you would understand.
can anyone please tell me the way to convert windows phone to android...????
my phone is lumia 730 dual sim ..i have seen lot of links and searched a lot but i cant find and any answer
ashishakash said:
can anyone please tell me the way to convert windows phone to android...????
my phone is lumia 730 dual sim ..i have seen lot of links and searched a lot but i cant find and any answer
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I have no idea why you would even want to do that, what a waste of a perfectly good phone that would be. Android SUCKS, having said that I'm fairly certain nobody has done that yet (and even if they did manage to, it will be plagued with driver issues). If you are really serious about running Android stuff on it, I would look at the Android for Windows bridge, some people have got a bunch of apps running on top of win10m.
darkfires said:
I have no idea why you would even want to do that, what a waste of a perfectly good phone that would be. Android SUCKS
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Does that explain why windows phone has 80% market share? Oh wait...
recently MS released WM10 roms for mi phones which worked really well , so if we are able to tweak those roms and firmware , we might be able to port them to other android devices
I would rather looking forward to run Windows 10 Mobile on Android Device.
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I hope we see growth in this type of emulation. Just look at Winulator. That project had so much promise but it was just 1 guy and he abandoned it citing problems with piracy. If that app was perfected you could literally run 99% of directx games ever made natively on any decently powered Android device without having to buy a Surface or some other overpriced MS product. MS still has the gaming industry by the balls, has been that way since we were forced to go to windows 95 because games were developed that wouldn't run on 3.11 anymore.
You can install ANDROID on Lumia Devices now https://youtu.be/cRt575WRzt8
Lololololololol
darkfires said:
I have no idea why you would even want to do that, what a waste of a perfectly good phone that would be. Android SUCKS, having said that I'm fairly certain nobody has done that yet (and even if they did manage to, it will be plagued with driver issues). If you are really serious about running Android stuff on it, I would look at the Android for Windows bridge, some people have got a bunch of apps running on top of win10m.
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LOOOOOOL ---- Why dont you check Android sales -vs- windows phone sale and see who the winner is?! I'm willing to bet $5000 cash that anything you can do on your windows phone I can do better, faster, & more complete with my Android. In other words, put your money where your mouth is!
HEIL WINDOWS
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You can't have 10 apps on the home screen showing live notifications (live tiles) has the Windows 10 mobile does...
When will you pay me?
Convert Windows to Android
ashishakash said:
can anyone please tell me the way to convert windows phone to android...????
my phone is lumia 730 dual sim ..i have seen lot of links and searched a lot but i cant find and any answer
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In my opinion you should not convert your windows phone to an android. Rather you should buy a new android phone. But if you really are not open to buying a new one so try this Android View App. In this way you can at least get the Android UI on your windows phone.
AiOGajo said:
You can't have 10 apps on the home screen showing live notifications (live tiles) has the Windows 10 mobile does...
When will you pay me?
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uh yeah you pretty much can. depends on what you mean by "live tiles" but there are def launchers with live icons and if you really wanted to you could code a live tile launcher that works exactly the same without too much trouble. i had a nokia lumina 710 running wp7 years ago. it was an awful piece of garbage. there was no app development for it at all (not even instagram lol) and even after modding there was very little you could do with it. im sure the platform has progressed since then but nothing beats the huge amount of rom and app dev for android. android is definitely the most flexible and capable mobile operating system but i wouldnt mind having a little side chick windows phone to play with.
as for OP.....yeah probably not gonna happen anytime soon. nobody has time to completely rewrite all the drivers and kernels and firmware and what not from the ground up as is necessary for running an operating system that is systemically varied from the software the hardware was made with in mind. someone mentioned that there was some kind of official builds for some devices and they are right its possible those roms could be ported or something, def your best hope but dont hold your breath