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Debian running on my Evo Shift with XFCE GUI. (New beautiful images :) )

After a few issues, I am happy to say that a full install of Debian is running on my shift (with CM7 ROM). Moreover, I can use Android VNC to have a GUI. I attached a few pictures of the software I have been able to run so far
It is too much for me to write up a how to, but if anyone wants to ask some questions, feel free.
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I have no idea what that is, but Congrats. Looks pretty sweet.
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BuddahWolf01 said:
I have no idea what that is, but Congrats. Looks pretty sweet.
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It is a full Linux distribution running side-by-side with android. This has been possible since the G1 days, but is different for each phone, and no clear instructions really exist.

I had this running before with some modifying of the hero script, but once my data hit full, I couldn't run it after putting some apps on the sdcard. Froyo moves apps to the sdcard in loop form, and once I got bash and a working a vim on android, I quit messing with it since those extra loop devices interfered with it
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danaff37 said:
I had this running before with some modifying of the hero script, but once my data hit full, I couldn't run it after putting some apps on the sdcard. Froyo moves apps to the sdcard in loop form, and once I got bash and a working a vim on android, I quit messing with it since those extra loop devices interfered with it
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I actually installed it myself, and put it on an ext3 partition on my sdcard (5GB currently). I am going to go buy a 32GB sd in order to run more.

Somebody is a very fancy man very nice cloverdale.
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I'll be impressed when you can get fedora + compiz and full phone functionality working

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I'll be impressed when you can get fedora + compiz and full phone functionality working
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It would not be too hard to get Fedora working, but I really do not like it, so would rather not spend any time on it. Compiz will install (tried it yesterday) but I am not able to get it running right now.

Sweet!
This looks awesome! I'm now considering trying this out.
You said you wouldn't be writing up a how-to, but would you be willing to help me out with some sort of resource/starting on where I could read up on this and start figuring it out? I remember the guy over at Nexus One Hacks who accomplished this with Ubuntu on the Nexus as well as on the G2. Would I be correct to assume your method is at least similar (in my very limited understanding) to his since you mentioned accessing the GUI through VNC?
Also, how's it running for you? What I mean is, now that you've got it working, are you able to get some real work done in Debian from the phone, or is it still pretty much just a proof-of-concept for this sort of hardware?

Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is this?
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cloverdale said:
It would not be too hard to get Fedora working, but I really do not like it, so would rather not spend any time on it. Compiz will install (tried it yesterday) but I am not able to get it running right now.
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Fair enough on the not liking Fedora thing but if you can get compiz effects + phone functionality working you're a boss.

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Fair enough on the not liking Fedora thing but if you can get compiz effects + phone functionality working you're a boss.
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That would be quite a waste of resources and unncessary taxing.
@DWake - It's a linux operating system within android, like a normal desktop OS.
@OP - You just chrooted into it/setup loop devices right? I did something similar earlier this year with ubuntu(I was following another devices image/stuff, I personally wouldn't pick anything with a gui installed)
Anyways congrats
How does GCC work on it?(That's all I would really want on there).

windows phone 7 Os on SGS2

Hi
There are rumours floating around that Samsung is in the process of putting wp7 on SGS2 ( maybe a variant of it)
So was wondering if they did bring out one would it be possible to port wp7 onto out SGS2 sinse it would be the same hardware.
I would like to dual boot if possible( like the HTC HD2 ).. what do you guys think ?
cnet link Here

I've tried WP7 on both native and non-native devices and believe me, it works better on native devices, just like Android does.
Besides, it's fugly and too new to be even considered as an alternative to Android. Also, if it's a non-native device then you could have issues with registering it to its full capabilities.
And finally, I don't believe a word of that article. Sounds to me like someone's come out from under a bridge, looking for snacks.

* DANG DoUBLE POST * Didnt see the other post#
ANyways
I kinda like WP7 as I have HTC HD7 and I just love the facebook , twitter and email on my HD7, I still think android is not that good for emails
The only reason I love android more is cause of the apps, and googlemaps and the great old flash junkie in me which make me want android.
But yeah If some DEV does port it, it would be great ......
Oh I might be a happy bunny once I install mango as it seems to iron out some of the few problems currently WP7 user's have

I'd be interested in doing this. I would like to get on the development scene... Funny, I was thinking this the other day!
First, I have to build a basic C# app... Damn you High-School for taking my time!

Since I tried out Launcher 7 as my launcher and UberMusic as my music player, I've been very interested in having a proper WindowsPhone. If the clones are this good, how good should the original OS be?
It's looking very likely that I will be owning a WP7 device, if they open up the system. If I have to jailbreak to get basic things done like on iPhone, it's not even an option.

johncmolyneux said:
Sounds to me like someone's come out from under a bridge, looking for snacks.
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HA!
I would love to dual-boot this thing.

aydc said:
If the clones are this good, how good should the original OS be?.
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I actually have a HTC HD7 and windows phone 7 is really good but cause its new is still few things to iron out and not much apps.
I will actually go for Nokia windows phone 7 are out as Nokia does the best hardware and I kinda love WP7 as well

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Besides, it's fugly and too new to be even considered as an alternative to Android.
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[email protected] part.

i wouldnt consider anything micro$oft good on my sgs2. nice idea and good luck to anyone that trys. i would peronally prefer to see the effort put into the excellent development on Android for this phone. just my pennies worth.

Sorry to open the grave but..
Sorry to open the grave but.. is there an custom rom, which looks like windows phone 7?
If not, it is impossible to create one, looking like it?
Greetings

N4wuko said:
Sorry to open the grave but.. is there an custom rom, which looks like windows phone 7?
If not, it is impossible to create one, looking like it?
Greetings
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launcher 7 is as good as your going to get mate.

Yeah, I tested it already.
But, i am looking for something more integrated.
For a real theme, someone know something like that?

WP7 is better than android.

666fff said:
WP7 is better than android.
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I smell troll sh**
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I'm wanting to try the same! So a full WP7 Rom for SGS2 Android deviecs!

I'm using launcher 7 atm
Like it a lot
Just wondering if we will have full rom for sgs2
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simonjcruse said:
i wouldnt consider anything micro$oft good on my sgs2. nice idea and good luck to anyone that trys. i would peronally prefer to see the effort put into the excellent development on Android for this phone. just my pennies worth.
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WP7 is actually pretty good. Stop being an Android fanboy.

It would be real treasure if Samsung gave us option to change our OS to Android or WP7 anytime we like...

This is basically the GS2 with WP7, minus the dual core processor.
Samsung Focus S - Pretty nice looking phone, probably one of the best of the new Mango phones.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-I937OKAATT
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I love android on SGS2, it will be great for the one who's looking to dual boot !
I dont know how W7 is good at mails ? May be cos I dnt like Windows Mobile OS anymore
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[Q] Windows on kindle fire?

Is it possible to run windows mobile or windows 8 on the kindle fire?

don't think so - cause of the processor
but a dev might know better ...

The more important question would be why would you want to?

Loo I know what you mean. My cousin actually bought a windows phone back when the HD2 was brand new. As a matter of fact I think it WAS the HD2 he bought.. well anyway he said he didn't like it so he ended installing Android onto the HD2. But just recently he bricked it so now he has the REZOUND.
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Johnnydevil said:
The more important question would be why would you want to?
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It might be an interesting change of pace.
As I type from ics

right? i wanted to try it out xD because everything is either running IOS or android and i wana do something new and different xD and screw linux on it too lol it probably wont be able to do much.

I'm not a expert on Windows mobile or 8 but I don't think it will happen. Number one Windows is closed source so it would be hard to modify it to run on the Kindle Fire. And two unless Windows is released on a system that is close to the Kindle Fire then there probably is very limited selection of drivers.

t0ny7 said:
I'm not a expert on Windows mobile or 8 but I don't think it will happen. Number one Windows is closed source so it would be hard to modify it to run on the Kindle Fire. And two unless Windows is released on a system that is close to the Kindle Fire then there probably is very limited selection of drivers.
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actually they put windows 8 on a tablet already but they havent officaly released it yet. so yea it probably wont be on the kindle fire :/

No please no oh god please no pleaseplease no

Hironel said:
actually they put windows 8 on a tablet already but they havent officaly released it yet. so yea it probably wont be on the kindle fire :/
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Windows 8 will work on an OMAP 4 4470, but not the OMAP 4 4430 that the Kindle Fire has.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/02/texas-instruments-announces-multi-core-1-8ghz-omap4470-arm-proc/

I am running Win 7 on my Fire
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I am running Win 7 on my Fire
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wow go launcher na w7 ))
nice wallpaper btw

Sure just use remote rdp...

I don't think kindle could get a windows8 rom
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krelvinaz said:
Windows 8 will work on an OMAP 4 4470, but not the OMAP 4 4430 that the Kindle Fire has.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/02/texas-instruments-announces-multi-core-1-8ghz-omap4470-arm-proc/
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Killjoy.

i don't think so
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Something tells me it will be possible, especially if there are any OMAP4 tablets at all, drivers should be similar.
Whether anybody actually goes through the trouble of getting it done and usable is another story altogether. I wonder what the performance would be like...

I totally understand that Win 8 is gonna be pretty much impossible to run on the KF, but would it really be that difficult to have the windows mobile OS on there? I feel like the kindle should have more than enough power to run it. Then again I'm still a young budding dev so you all tell me

[W8 32b - TF810c] Blueastacks does not work :(

I have tried both Win7 and Win8 versions and no luck at all .
If I start Bluestack directly all I get is black screen with touch icons at the bottom of the window.
The only one that works is screen maximize.
If I start if through attached app I either get above mentioned black screen or it says loading and afterwards again goes to black screen.
Any ideas what I could do?
Does it allow to access Google Play (and apps I have already bought)?

No, it doesn't work. There might be an issue with the video drivers, HP envy x2 has some newer ones but they are buggy and make the screen flicker. Also might be that bluestacks is still beta.
Either way at how much CPU this program will use to emulate even the simplest apps I doubt it will be actually worth it.

Bec07 said:
Either way at how much CPU this program will use to emulate even the simplest apps I doubt it will be actually worth it.
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This is a copy and paste of a bit of text I wrote elsewhere:
Me_In_Another_Thread said:
Bluestacks involves ZERO emulation of ARM. Android apps are run inside the dalvik virtual machine (itself a register based version of the java virtual machine). To run an android app just needs a DVM and its class library: bluestacks pretty much does this. Android native code apps do then get complicated yes but then the android NDK has a rather convenient feature that bluestacks can exploit.
NDK compiles native binaries for both x86 and ARMv7 by default (note default, you can over-ride which platforms it compiles for, I believe ARMv6, ARMv6hf, ARMv7, MIPS and x86_32 are available options although I am not 100% sure on the exact arm versions so might be wrong). Bluestacks is only running on x86 and x86_64 machines. x86_64 machines can safely run x86_32 code. So really bluestacks when it encounters a native app "just" has to run the x86 binary the NDK produces on windows/mac with a compatibility layer. Still a complex job of course.
Bluestacks still has to mess about a bit exposing hardware to "android" correctly and handling a few extra bits and pieces but generally it works rather well
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I've seen bluestacks running angry birds on an intel atom based netbook. Wasn't as snappy as on a galaxy note 2 but it worked, actually played better than on my old orange san francisco/ZTE blade. Still lagged a little on level loading but once you let the physics settle down you could take your first shot no problem and carry on playing from there. Envy uses a newer gen of intel atoms anyway which are supposedly much better.
I haven't had the screen issues with bluestacks myself but I run it on a full desktop PC with updated drivers and a dedicated GPU etc.

I see what you mean, in the end it might be worth it. All I did was send an error report to Bluestacks but I think more can be done.
The HP Envy X2 uses the Atom Z2760 SoC, as does the VivoTab and all Atom windows 8 tablets to date (the ones released in the past few months to be precise). The latest Envy driver pack installs without issues but instead may cause some. Namely with docking, sometimes the 2nd battery won't be recognized and charged, the mousepad might behave strange and screen flickering that occurs randomly but is easily fixed, (standby->back from standby).
You can give it a try but I recommend backing up your current drivers.

Not working on my vaio as well.In fact it is failing during installation due to graphics card compatibility.Mine is ATI Radeon 7670M..what could be the problem?

galtom said:
I have tried both Win7 and Win8 versions and no luck at all .
If I start Bluestack directly all I get is black screen with touch icons at the bottom of the window.
The only one that works is screen maximize.
If I start if through attached app I either get above mentioned black screen or it says loading and afterwards again goes to black screen.
Any ideas what I could do?
Does it allow to access Google Play (and apps I have already bought)?
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Try Jar of Beans
I find it better than bluestacks
There is a similar Project called WindowsAndroid

Thanks, The ill try that.
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I had to use an older version (beta 1, iirc) for it to work on my Vivotab smart. Performance was a dog though.

goofball2k said:
I had to use an older version (beta 1, iirc) for it to work on my Vivotab smart. Performance was a dog though.
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Works great on my Surface Pro! Even with Instagram!

EMINENT1 said:
Works great on my Surface Pro! Even with Instagram!
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For 3 hours or so?

Bec07 said:
For 3 hours or so?
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Yes! Along with Flash video and multiple windows at the same time!
You know with true multitasking, I get three things done 3 times faster, just in time for the 3 hrs.

Yeah, so does the TF810C, it's an X86 cpu and it plays flash like the ARM version for 10 hours or so... You know, like a real tablet, not something as heavy as a netbook with 1/3 of the battery life.
Do you even have a relevant contribution for this thread?

Pots and kettles, Bec07. If you don't like a mobile computer with a 5-hour battery life, that's your call... but it's even less relevant to the thread than what EMINENT1 is posting. Keep it civil and keep it on topic, please.

EMINENT1 said:
Works great on my Surface Pro! Even with Instagram!
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I'm sure given Surface Pro has a much faster processor than the Z2760. TF810C doesn't run the same processor as the Surface Pro though, it runs the same Atom as the Vivotab Smart so OP may find performance not acceptable.

I tried BS on a samsung S7 with an i5 processor. It worked fine, I guess, but the screen resolution in BS was bad.
Uninstalling it was a pain. The uninstaller froze every time and did nothing. I had just created an image so I will just restore that instead of messing with the uninstaller.
BS is definitely in beta stages...
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It works on my TF810C
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edgarpo said:
It works on my TF810C
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Good to know. I am considering getting one. That said, I dont really need bluestacks but then I guess there isnt a reason to not get it.
Can bluestacks apps be installed to microSD rather than the internal storage?

Why not try Jar of Beans.
It works fine for me on Win7 and Win8. Plus it has full Play Store support, root, etc....

the_scotsman said:
Why not try Jar of Beans.
It works fine for me on Win7 and Win8. Plus it has full Play Store support, root, etc....
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The TF810C does not have HAXM support. It will be a slow experience.

windows 10 mobile to android

can anyone please tell me the way to convert windows phone to android...????
my phone is lumia 730 dual sim ..i have seen lot of links and searched a lot but i cant find and any answer

ashishakash said:
can anyone please tell me the way to convert windows phone to android...????
my phone is lumia 730 dual sim ..i have seen lot of links and searched a lot but i cant find and any answer
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I have no idea why you would even want to do that, what a waste of a perfectly good phone that would be. Android SUCKS, having said that I'm fairly certain nobody has done that yet (and even if they did manage to, it will be plagued with driver issues). If you are really serious about running Android stuff on it, I would look at the Android for Windows bridge, some people have got a bunch of apps running on top of win10m.

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I have no idea why you would even want to do that, what a waste of a perfectly good phone that would be. Android SUCKS
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Does that explain why windows phone has 80% market share? Oh wait...

recently MS released WM10 roms for mi phones which worked really well , so if we are able to tweak those roms and firmware , we might be able to port them to other android devices

I would rather looking forward to run Windows 10 Mobile on Android Device.
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I hope we see growth in this type of emulation. Just look at Winulator. That project had so much promise but it was just 1 guy and he abandoned it citing problems with piracy. If that app was perfected you could literally run 99% of directx games ever made natively on any decently powered Android device without having to buy a Surface or some other overpriced MS product. MS still has the gaming industry by the balls, has been that way since we were forced to go to windows 95 because games were developed that wouldn't run on 3.11 anymore.

You can install ANDROID on Lumia Devices now https://youtu.be/cRt575WRzt8

Lololololololol
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I have no idea why you would even want to do that, what a waste of a perfectly good phone that would be. Android SUCKS, having said that I'm fairly certain nobody has done that yet (and even if they did manage to, it will be plagued with driver issues). If you are really serious about running Android stuff on it, I would look at the Android for Windows bridge, some people have got a bunch of apps running on top of win10m.
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LOOOOOOL ---- Why dont you check Android sales -vs- windows phone sale and see who the winner is?! I'm willing to bet $5000 cash that anything you can do on your windows phone I can do better, faster, & more complete with my Android. In other words, put your money where your mouth is!
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You can't have 10 apps on the home screen showing live notifications (live tiles) has the Windows 10 mobile does...
When will you pay me?

Convert Windows to Android
ashishakash said:
can anyone please tell me the way to convert windows phone to android...????
my phone is lumia 730 dual sim ..i have seen lot of links and searched a lot but i cant find and any answer
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In my opinion you should not convert your windows phone to an android. Rather you should buy a new android phone. But if you really are not open to buying a new one so try this Android View App. In this way you can at least get the Android UI on your windows phone.

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You can't have 10 apps on the home screen showing live notifications (live tiles) has the Windows 10 mobile does...
When will you pay me?
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uh yeah you pretty much can. depends on what you mean by "live tiles" but there are def launchers with live icons and if you really wanted to you could code a live tile launcher that works exactly the same without too much trouble. i had a nokia lumina 710 running wp7 years ago. it was an awful piece of garbage. there was no app development for it at all (not even instagram lol) and even after modding there was very little you could do with it. im sure the platform has progressed since then but nothing beats the huge amount of rom and app dev for android. android is definitely the most flexible and capable mobile operating system but i wouldnt mind having a little side chick windows phone to play with.
as for OP.....yeah probably not gonna happen anytime soon. nobody has time to completely rewrite all the drivers and kernels and firmware and what not from the ground up as is necessary for running an operating system that is systemically varied from the software the hardware was made with in mind. someone mentioned that there was some kind of official builds for some devices and they are right its possible those roms could be ported or something, def your best hope but dont hold your breath