After a few issues, I am happy to say that a full install of Debian is running on my shift (with CM7 ROM). Moreover, I can use Android VNC to have a GUI. I attached a few pictures of the software I have been able to run so far
It is too much for me to write up a how to, but if anyone wants to ask some questions, feel free.
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I have no idea what that is, but Congrats. Looks pretty sweet.
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I have no idea what that is, but Congrats. Looks pretty sweet.
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It is a full Linux distribution running side-by-side with android. This has been possible since the G1 days, but is different for each phone, and no clear instructions really exist.
I had this running before with some modifying of the hero script, but once my data hit full, I couldn't run it after putting some apps on the sdcard. Froyo moves apps to the sdcard in loop form, and once I got bash and a working a vim on android, I quit messing with it since those extra loop devices interfered with it
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I had this running before with some modifying of the hero script, but once my data hit full, I couldn't run it after putting some apps on the sdcard. Froyo moves apps to the sdcard in loop form, and once I got bash and a working a vim on android, I quit messing with it since those extra loop devices interfered with it
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I actually installed it myself, and put it on an ext3 partition on my sdcard (5GB currently). I am going to go buy a 32GB sd in order to run more.
Somebody is a very fancy man very nice cloverdale.
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I'll be impressed when you can get fedora + compiz and full phone functionality working
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I'll be impressed when you can get fedora + compiz and full phone functionality working
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It would not be too hard to get Fedora working, but I really do not like it, so would rather not spend any time on it. Compiz will install (tried it yesterday) but I am not able to get it running right now.
Sweet!
This looks awesome! I'm now considering trying this out.
You said you wouldn't be writing up a how-to, but would you be willing to help me out with some sort of resource/starting on where I could read up on this and start figuring it out? I remember the guy over at Nexus One Hacks who accomplished this with Ubuntu on the Nexus as well as on the G2. Would I be correct to assume your method is at least similar (in my very limited understanding) to his since you mentioned accessing the GUI through VNC?
Also, how's it running for you? What I mean is, now that you've got it working, are you able to get some real work done in Debian from the phone, or is it still pretty much just a proof-of-concept for this sort of hardware?
Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is this?
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It would not be too hard to get Fedora working, but I really do not like it, so would rather not spend any time on it. Compiz will install (tried it yesterday) but I am not able to get it running right now.
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Fair enough on the not liking Fedora thing but if you can get compiz effects + phone functionality working you're a boss.
VICODAN said:
Fair enough on the not liking Fedora thing but if you can get compiz effects + phone functionality working you're a boss.
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That would be quite a waste of resources and unncessary taxing.
@DWake - It's a linux operating system within android, like a normal desktop OS.
@OP - You just chrooted into it/setup loop devices right? I did something similar earlier this year with ubuntu(I was following another devices image/stuff, I personally wouldn't pick anything with a gui installed)
Anyways congrats
How does GCC work on it?(That's all I would really want on there).
Related
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/02/final-android-30-platform-and-updated.html
Hit it
First.
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3.0?
I thought 3.0 is only for tablets? I thought 2.4 was going to be the next Phone update.
Well, as we haven't even gotten 2.3 on the captivate yet..it will probably be a while for 3.0..hopefully it doesn't just work on tablets.
Well I heard news that the Nexus and Desire got a port of honeycomb, but they're non functioning atm
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Truthfully...
Truthfully, I don't think that many developers truly tried to port 2.3 to us. Supercurio got that test demo out, but no one ever put out a legitimate ROM. And if we have to rely on Samsung... Well, lets just get used to having Froyo.
This just in: Cyanogenmod dropping development on CM7 for SGS.
Just kidding, but I couldn't resist. Lol
FutureDev7 said:
Truthfully, I don't think that many developers truly tried to port 2.3 to us. Supercurio got that test demo out, but no one ever put out a legitimate ROM. And if we have to rely on Samsung... Well, lets just get used to having Froyo.
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uhh... ok:
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uhh... ok:
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Fully functional?
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Kaik541 said:
uhh... ok:
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So how close is CM7 to being ready for use as a daily driver?
pbclst said:
Fully functional?
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No it's a work in progress. If it was ready believe me you would know.
I've been using it for less than a day, but no show stoppers if you know what you're doing. phone works, mms/sms work, wifi can cause kernel panics if it falls asleep (just set to never sleep)... you can thank atinm and the cmsgsteam for it, but CM7 is VERY MUCH SO on the way and in progress
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So how close is CM7 to being ready for use as a daily driver?
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also, I already see this as going to be my daily driver at this point. the only "problems" I've seen are listed above (oh and the camera doesn't work quite yet, can't actually snap photos, just FC's on trying... but barcode scanner works)
not to mention the battery life is about 10% an hour on light usage
im hoping for the best and would love a solid release. I wish I knew more so I could help :/
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Been my daily for 2 weeks.
If anyone is prepared to do some work the rom is there. Just don't show up and ask how to install Linux, what is terminal etc. You need to be self sufficient, its not a simple cwm flash.
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I thought 3.0 is only for tablets? I thought 2.4 was going to be the next Phone update.
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If you make a phone sized AVD from the honeycomb SDK, you get a very functional phone ROM. Looks very similar to gingerbread.
Kaik541 said:
also, I already see this as going to be my daily driver at this point. the only "problems" I've seen are listed above (oh and the camera doesn't work quite yet, can't actually snap photos, just FC's on trying... but barcode scanner works)
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They've fixed that for the SGS build.
MikeyMike01 said:
They've fixed that for the SGS build.
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My build will take pictures, you just have to hold down the button and let it focus first. Otherwise, it will FC.
Kaik541 said:
I've been using it for less than a day, but no show stoppers if you know what you're doing. phone works, mms/sms work, wifi can cause kernel panics if it falls asleep (just set to never sleep)... you can thank atinm and the cmsgsteam for it, but CM7 is VERY MUCH SO on the way and in progress
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It really doesn't look like CM devs couldn't care less about the SGS.
A big, "Thank you!" to the devs at Xda. I'm a wilderness rock climber/math guy. Always trying to trim that pack down, and been through a slew of laptops, UMPCs, and tablets. Too heavy. Too little battery life. Etc. Then along comes the Xoom.
Yeah!
All that was missing is the math/physics junk I need...and that's were the devs come in:
DOS:
A lot of great old programs will run in dosbox. It's fairly fast. But really, really old.
Mathcad:
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Maple:
1500 places of Pi in 6 seconds. Not bad at all.
Windows:
Totally sucks. Slow. Hard to add software to. Not even worth a screenshot. Try it--you'll hate it.
Ubuntu:
Big win. Supports lots of modern software. Relatively easy to add stuff to. Not as fast as DOS, but fast enough, considering what all it's doing...especially with overclocking (those devs again *grin*).
Desktop:
Maxima:
This thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=962023
and especially this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12686965&postcount=88
helped lots. Change your root/init.sh file resolution to 1280x746 for a good fit. Update your busybox before installing.
Thanks again to all of you who made this possible!
Now, if someone would just port iOS..................................j/k.
Noice! Kinda interested in the DOS and Ubuntu parts. How did you install Ubuntu?
Scourge1024 said:
Noice! Kinda interested in the DOS and Ubuntu parts. How did you install Ubuntu?
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DOS is pretty easy--just grab one of the dosbox apps (https://market.android.com/search?q=dosbox&so=1&c=apps), put an installed version of the program you want to run in /sdcard or /sdcard/external. Searching finds lots of DOS public domain software (http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/, for instance), and tons of information on using dosbox.
The second link in the original post is really all you need to get Ubuntu working. For now, the files are on a SD card for faster transfers, making it easier to use multiple images. Eventually, the best one will go in /sdcard to speed things up a bit.
What software are you wanting to run?
I'll be glad to help, because I sure do owe these forums a lot, and the best way to repay is by helping others.
Now, if some dev will come up with a way to multi-boot into Android/Windows/Linux/iOS....
Holy ****, Maple - I forgot that even existed. Haven't seen it since college.
Kcarpenter said:
Holy ****, Maple - I forgot that even existed. Haven't seen it since college.
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I love Maple & Mathcad, and use them lots. Currently trying to get modern versions running on the Xoom. Maxima (http://www.google.com/search?btnG=G...=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=6af0f014ae16db6c) is close to Maple, and SMath (http://en.smath.info/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73) is similar to Mathcad. I'm looking forward to the SpaceTime (http://www.spacetime.us/) port to Android.
Confession: All that keeps me from being an entry in geekapedia is the fact that I climb rocks, and shoot a mean game of pool. Otherwise, I'm a total loser.
Awesome job, especially with the Ubuntu install! Be cool to have one of these configured with a pen-tester build a a la BackTrack. I'm sure it'll get there as HC develops more.
Thanks for showing what's possible!
Thanks for posting on this. My Ubuntu is running beautifully following your tips, and the threads you linked. I do wish there was an on screen keyboard. The only way I could find for text input was to "send" it which is a bit of a pain. As a fun little side note I'm running Ubuntu off my flash drive using an otg cable. I followed the same directions, just used my flash drive instead of SD.
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Thanks for posting on this. My Ubuntu is running beautifully following your tips, and the threads you linked. I do wish there was an on screen keyboard. The only way I could find for text input was to "send" it which is a bit of a pain. As a fun little side note I'm running Ubuntu off my flash drive using an otg cable. I followed the same directions, just used my flash drive instead of SD.
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The keyboard in the second Ubuntu screenshot is xvkbd:
http://db.tt/KCc26Og
Bluetooth keyboard works, too.
i just upgraded to windows 7. about 10 months ago... shall i stick to 7 or upgrade.. :\ i am confused..
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BNWBOY said:
i just upgraded to windows 7. about 10 months ago... shall i stick to 7 or upgrade.. :\ i am confused..
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if you can afford it, do it, once you get the hang of it you wont regret it at all
Yeah I hurd a lot of bad about windows 8 especially if u don't have a touch screen witch I don't but I tryed it and I love it. I think it vary worth upgrading
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I wasn't sure about the Start Page at first but it is easy to adjust to. Plus if you just can't stand it install Stardock Start8 and you never have to deal with it.
I now have Win8 on 2 systems and will soon have it on 3rd.
I'm really liking it!
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I think it's best if you upgrade, as Windows 8 will raise in price after January 31st.
Make sure you read over all the changes, of which there are a tonne, and take advantage of them.
May as well take advantage of the cheap upgrade offers now...
I find there is no disadvantage running a mouse compared to swiping with a touchscreen, but a trackpad on a lappie is a little slower...
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May as well take advantage of the cheap upgrade offers now...
I find there is no disadvantage running a mouse compared to swiping with a touchscreen, but a trackpad on a lappie is a little slower...
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Trackpad is WAY faster if you have proper drivers.
Maddog
hey. can i updated from a hack windows 7 to original windows 8.
I mean from their home page and pay for it -?
Ofcourse you should upgrade!!!!clear choice
New operating system+ new technology = new user experience
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Here's a a rough summary of Windows 8's features - ignoring the obviously new UI everyone knows about:
Multimonitor support overhaul
File Explorer improvements with ribbon
Shorter boot times
Security enhancements
Faster file copying that can be paused and maintains a single window
Redesigned task manager
Integrated social and calendar applications
Native .iso mounting
Better battery usage
Cloud synchronization
File History continuous sequential backups
Backups to network drives
chkdsk that will take 10 secs each and every time rather than hours
Storage spaces for multiple hard drives (Like an OS-based RAID 0 or 1)
50% less RAM usage
Tighter CPU control
3G data monitoring
Vastly superior conflict resolution when copying files so you know exactly which files will be replaced and the exact differences
Copy/delete jobs that never stop halfway with an "are you sure?" message while you're AFK
Easy refresh and reset options in case of operating system failure
Windows Update which is now COMPLETELY automated and will never show a single popup ever again
UEFI motherboard support
Native USB 3.0 support
With the other, miscellaneous stuff like HYPER-V and other things that don't affect me- but may be of great use to others.
aegixnova said:
Backups to network drives
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This was already in windows 7 professional. I know because I used it.
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Storage spaces for multiple hard drives (Like an OS-based RAID 0 or 1)
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This is really different from RAID. With storage spaces you can hook up random external drives to your computer and merge them to whatever drive you want. This is extremely useful for those who are too scared or do not know how to touch their hardware and those who have all-in-ones that are hard to modify.
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Trackpad is WAY faster if you have proper drivers.
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JihadSquad speaks the truth...
just installed the latest asus drivers for the elan touchpad... fully customizable and pretty intuitive once you see all the different gesture settings...
I've always been a huge asus fan and I'm well impressed with their W8 support They've already got a W8 driver page for my lappie :good:
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Lucky you, I still gotta use beta drivers
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Android 4.2On Iconia a500by Randomblame
This is an early build there are issues which will be sorted in time.
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Problems:
wifi is a bit wonky still connect in settings then just leave it will continue to loop on connecting if settings is open for some reason
usb flash drives not yet mounting correctly
working:
bluetooth pairs with devices now - untested otherwise
usb mass storage working
wifi working - see above
audio working
sd cards working
multi user working
cameras working
etc
Beta3:
http://jellytime-iconia.googlecode.com/files/cm-10.1-20121207-UNOFFICIAL-a500.zip
Use This Version of Google Apps
http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121130-signed.zip
You're the fastest....as always! good job, looking forward to guinea pig this
I know this is a dumb question for a forum like this one but what benifits will we see from 4.2 that we don't have in 4.1.
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I know this is a dumb question for a forum like this one but what benifits will we see from 4.2 that we don't have in 4.1.
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http://www.android.com/whatsnew/
lowsum said:
You're the fastest....as always! good job, looking forward to guinea pig this
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Same for me; my A501 is all yours for testing if you want
OK I"m pushing a build
it may wipe out all your data
it may nuke your device
but
it boots
navbar missing
wifi broken
audiobroken
bluetooth broken
in short some adjustments required
if this breaks your tablet or you lose precious family photos don't blame me it's broken just for fun http://code.google.com/p/jellytime-iconia/downloads/detail?name=theanswer.zip&can=2&q=
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OK I"m pushing a build
it may wipe out all your data
it may nuke your device
but
it boots
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Remeber kids, in the event this ROM causes nuclear fallout, back up your data so future generations may carry on with the information stored on your tablet.
(Is it as bad as it sounds though?)
armada786 said:
Remeber kids, in the event this ROM causes nuclear fallout, back up your data so future generations may carry on with the information stored on your tablet.
(Is it as bad as it sounds though?)
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It's almost unusable but in a good way. I'm fixing it up now
Waiting for version with navbar
got wifi - well it scans and sees aps at least
And why it does not have tablet look but phone one?
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And why it does not have tablet look but phone one?
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This is the way it is in 4.2 onward. Google is unifying the look so it functions the same no matter what screen size (like everyone's favorite fruity rounded rectangles). It's Matias Duarte's vision for the UI. Personally, I have no real issues with it, and I'm sure CM or AOKP will bring back the old functionality.
I read somewhere that android 4.2 changes something in the render script. I know that this changes somehow the performance of 3d, does someone knows if this can relate to our egl leak? If yes, how does it affect performance and the random reboots we have been having?
Thank you for the efford random blame, as always I love your work, and I would donate if my stupid wall art debit card would play well with PayPal. As soon as I get another debit card you and the amazing quarx are going to have a beer from me.
Sweet sweet progress.
Got the navbar
Got storage subsystem working mostly
now for that pesky wifi
*wifi working haha sweet
so audio bluetooth and sdcard/camera
Linked my last build because I'm probably going to bed soon gotta wake up at 5am again :crying:
Awesome work as always phablet interface on 10 inch Tab sweet. Loving the phablet interface on my shiney new nexus 7. Now if I can just pry my fingers of my nexus I will give this at try
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Is it will support 3g usb modem ?!
3g is my last priority
working on the audio HAL and bluetooth issue at the moment
Could you also have a look at internal storage support? It moved all of my internal sd content into 0 folder.
macia10 said:
Could you also have a look at internal storage support? It moved all of my internal sd content into 0 folder.
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This isn't a bug. It is how 4.2 handles multiplte users on a single device.
More info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2037483
Edit - RELEASED
Dev blog release
http://blog.winulator.com/2012/12/winulator-beta-10v-is-now-available_11.html
Playtore link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.postram.winulatorbeta
A guide on how to get things running
http://docs.winulator.com/program-caesariii
Edit 2 - sorry meant to post the release on the theme and app thread, my bad, hope thats cool
If he puts diablo 2 or red alert 2 on my tablet, i know what ill be doing for the next couple of months
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If he puts diablo 2 or red alert 2 on my tablet, i know what ill be doing for the next couple of months
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I so want RA2 on my tablet!!
Question the game files if you have cds for games win 95 98 can we make our own files?
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Question the game files if you have cds for games win 95 98 can we make our own files?
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I dont think so, i think hes doing them game by game at the moment.....not like traditional emulators, but you never know, maybe some point down the line, if its technically possible......which to me, its seems like all the ingredients are there.
From what i understand hes figured out a way to convert x86 ?binaries? on the fly [JIT], to something arm can understand, and bypassing some[all?] of the emulation and saving some of the processing power that normally gets used by that emulation. Is that a first for android emulation technique?i dont know
He gives a much better account of it on his blog
Alright for fans of ceasar 3, looks like the beta's now available on the playstore, bugs have already been reported and a new update is in the process of being pushed to the market, so hopefully that helps.
If anyone manages to get it running please feel free to post your experiences
Dev blog release
http://blog.winulator.com/2012/12/winulator-beta-10v-is-now-available_11.html
Playtore link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.postram.winulatorbeta
A guide on how to get things running
http://docs.winulator.com/program-caesariii
Good luck:good:
make RA2 Happen!!!
I played it some last night on my note. The S-pen makes it a lot easier to navigate through the menus in the game. The only thing I didn't like was the always touch the screen was a left click. I accidently destroyed some buildings because I had the shovel selected and built some in places I didn't want to since its a little hard to position exactly since it builds right away. But as far as performance I played for about 30 minutes and only used 5% battery and it ran perfect. No lag or slow downs. Loads up fast. You do have to put the games on built in sdcard since the program only seems to scan for games there and its not configurable.
still trying to get a hold of the game lol
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I played it some last night on my note. The S-pen makes it a lot easier to navigate through the menus in the game. The only thing I didn't like was the always touch the screen was a left click. I accidently destroyed some buildings because I had the shovel selected and built some in places I didn't want to since its a little hard to position exactly since it builds right away. But as far as performance I played for about 30 minutes and only used 5% battery and it ran perfect. No lag or slow downs. Loads up fast. You do have to put the games on built in sdcard since the program only seems to scan for games there and its not configurable.
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5% in 30 minutes, thats impressive......thats a total average of 10 hours playtime, not to shabby........although i suspect different games will vary depending on how graphic intensive they are
Glad to hear it runs smoothly, saw one or two videos, and was wondering if the whole game played as smooth, glad to hear it does
How are the control widgets, are they implemented well
Control widgets
Edit
Can someone confirm whether a bluetooth mouse works, assuming someone has one and is kind enough to confirm it, thanks
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If someone comes acrosss the official xda dev thread, let us know
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I so want RA2 on my tablet!!
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You never know
http://blog.winulator.com/2012/12/v103-and-more.html#comment-form
banderos101 said:
You never know
http://blog.winulator.com/2012/12/v103-and-more.html#comment-form
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I really want it! Id play the s**t out of it