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Android + Existing Phones = ??

Yeah, Google has just announced that Android is a platform there is no real GPhone. ok. I'm sure a lot of us are more than interested in getting this platform on our existing phone.
My question to those who understand the internals of our existing HTC phones. Is there hope for us to scrap WinMo and put Android instead. Their website makes it sound like it can be done.
What do you think?

I don't know the answer to that, but it sure seems like it, e specially since Sprint and other carriers are also joining hte Open handset alliance, they may provide support for linking Android with their services and configuration. I can't wait.

Wasn't there a pooled $$ reward that someone set up for the first person who could get Win XP running on the new Intel macs (prior to bootcamp). I suggest a similar motivational scheme (if necessary) to compensate whoever can accomplish a similar feat: getting Android to run on existing HTC hardware.
Anyone interested?

That would be super cool. I mean, I really can't wait...
What if we start a fund-raiser managed by the admins to request donations from members towards the reward? I'm sure that would be even more motivating.

Pool
I would love to start a pool too! The only problem is there are too many devices to support. With getting XP to run on an Intel mac, they all run the same hardware. My Athena is a lot different then somebodies universal or wizard. I'm guessing it will be just like the efforts to port linux over to our handsets. I'm hoping for my device to be able to run it but it would be a huge effort to be able to support all the devices.

MWillis561 said:
I would love to start a pool too! The only problem is there are too many devices to support. With getting XP to run on an Intel mac, they all run the same hardware. My Athena is a lot different then somebodies universal or wizard. I'm guessing it will be just like the efforts to port linux over to our handsets. I'm hoping for my device to be able to run it but it would be a huge effort to be able to support all the devices.
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It may not be that hard (theoretically) because they (OHA) did all the ground work of getting linux to run on our devices. The work (I think) is in dealing with the customizations for each device. The min requirements they stated seem well below what most of our devices are capable of, so that shouldn't be a problem either. Maybe we'll just have to wait until a device from HTC with that ROM comes out.
WARNING!! I absolutely am talking out of no knowlege.

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source :http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=4676
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HTC and Google are working together to release a new phone that will run on the Android platform. The phone will reportedly have a 3- by 5-inch swivel screen like the SideKick that will automatically rotate from portrait to landscape. It will have a full QWERTY keyboard as well, but the coolest part about the phone is the "time-sensitive" touch menus that will expand depending on how long the users touch the screen.
According to Engadget Mobile, this should show up sometime in the second half of 2008.

TT_boy said:
According to Engadget Mobile, this should show up sometime in the second half of 2008.
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The tears are coming into my eyes. It was already possible
to use Blueangel as a linux phone two years ago without any help from HTC
http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa

It is possible, but as far as I know it, it didn't work quite well... Maybe we shall have better support when Android comes out.

dferreira said:
It is possible, but as far as I know it, it didn't work quite well...
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It was still not bad, when you consider that the code
is actually written without any docs from manufacturer
by 1 person (cp15).
Just look in the xda-dev archive.

TT_boy said:
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Actually, further speculation concludes that this is the correct rendering of that phone.

cr2 said:
The tears are coming into my eyes. It was already possible
to use Blueangel as a linux phone two years ago without any help from HTC
http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa
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Think of this though, we're struggling at the moment dealing with stability and functionality issues with WinMo on our devices made for that platform. How much more with a totally alien OS coded by a single individual. In as much as I think it was a great achievement, I do not think it was a workable substitute for WinMo. This however presents a huge posibility ..... my .02.

[Rada-Dash] Launcher Design

Hey everyone. I'm working on a new launcher for my T-Mobile Dash (S620). Its in its infant stages. i have a few sketches, and 1 fleshed out concept. I'd like to get some feedback and see what y'all think. The pin-wheel above the clock would rotate to show day and night. It was inspired a bit by the layout of the xbox 360 dashboard... and every other according menu ever made (microsoft wasnt first)
codename: Rada-Dash
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There has been an update in progress.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2595022#post2595022

love your mock up. Imo, I would see what those tabs cascading from highest on left to lowest on the right might look like. then make every one a different color- user customizable even. I really dig what you got there othrwise great work.

I don't have a dash, but that looks pretty sweet. I would use it if I did and I do have a few friends with Dashes and I would definitely let them know about this.

kewl one waiting bro any expected date for release

NJackal said:
kewl one waiting bro any expected date for release
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I have a little bit of documentation reading to do before i get started on development. I'll try to keep this thread updated for y'all. I'd love to work along side someone who knows what their doing. i can write actionscript and parse xml all day long... What will hold me up this project, is my unfamiliarity with developing software for wm6.

looks great.. hope to try it soon..

Radakast,
Looks good. Hope to see the finished article soon.
WB

Looks like the blade style like the xbox360 uses. Nice! This would be an awsome launcher for my 8525. I must commend you on taking the launcher gui in a different direction. Most people are stuck in the Diamond/Iphone theme rut and its causing a lot of repetitive results. Enough of my babbling. I definitely will be keeping an eye on the development of this launcher.

Brilliant idea! Your design is way too dark however.
Seriously one of the best home screen concepts!

Forgive my ignorance but is your device a smartphone? What program will you use to develop your screen? Having just left a smartphone (Moto Q) I was under the impression that the homescreen customization is limited except for a few programs (i.e. SBSH Facade, phoneAlarm). If there is hope for homescreen customization, i'm all for it. I am just curious how it is possible.

Hey guys. I spent a few hours working on this this weekend. thanks for everyone's replys
@Vision77
Thank you. I'm a web interface designer, and im trying to bring alittle bit of that action to the smart phone platform.
@N1c0_ds
Yes it is way to dark. I designed it in my pitch black room at 2 in the morning and it looked plenty bright. I made a demo for my phone (linked below) and i was tryign to show it off to people yesterday and had to cup my hand over it... not good! my next revision will be much lighter.
@jerkules
You are forgiven. Its written in Flash Lite (Targeted Flash Player 7 written with Actionscript 2). I can blabber on and on about the technical abilities of flash player 7, but I'll spare you. pretty much its going to work like this:
dash.exe will be written in vb or c# and will work as the glue between the phone's api and flash. it will interpret the phone's commands (ie: display that you have missed a call) and my flash api (which will be open source when im done so you can all make custom phone aps in flash...) will update the flash movie with the new information. and then wm6.1 will be told to use dash.exe instead of regular home.exe.
And now for the update.
I'm really excited for this project. yall seem to enjoy it so ive added it to my stack of things to work on.. Here is the progress i've made
And because its made in Flash. i can post a real example, not just screenshots of it.
http://www.motionharvest.com/forums/xda/dash/radadash/examples/clock_and_sliding/
I've made a small movie too. this examplifies N1c0_ds analysis that its too dark. im also not going to win any cinematic awards for my camera work.
http://www.motionharvest.com/forums/xda/dash/radadash/examples/clock_and_sliding/dashexample.wmv
enjoy

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Great Idea!!! i really like it, if i may just make a suggestion, maybe on the slider for texts, have some type of notification that there are unread texts. maybe something for missed calls as well? cant wait to see where this is going. Good luck!!

Great idea, love simplistic designs. If you need any help with the flash stuff I would suggest twolf, he's done really great work with flash for throttle launcher.

I've just seen this & I must say it looks really interesting. Has there been anymore progress on this recently?

To the OP - are you able to update us on progress please?
Thanks
WB

[CLOSED/G2] G2 & Android: Evolution through leaps and bounds.

I'm definitely looking forward to root and ROMs being ported to the G2. I have been using custom ROMs like Cyanogen's mod for quite some time now on my G1, and now that I am without; it has become blatantly obvious that it's the little things that transform quality products into luxury products. Thanks to everyone's work, we are watching the definition of luxury in the making. With every new technology that comes out, and every new line of code the developers and awesome community coders write we are watching the evolution of our devices progress. Can't wait to see how this great phone will fly once I get it away from stock. I'm already interested in the new things that are slowly being discovered about it. As some sit and complain that they aren't getting what they paid for, others are going on an adventure finding out whatever they can from a new product. Its like a giant puzzle that people all over the world are working together to figure out. How interesting it would be if they actually took advantage of situations like this and all the energy that follows them to create fully immersive viral advertising campaigns. I mean everyone who is following the developments of the G2 are putting so much emotion into it all. Whether it's positive or negative we are watching the community come together as a whole, and it's pretty amazing. Whether or not there really are lasting issues with the memory or other parts of the phone, I am enjoying the dynamic of our teamwork to figure it all out.

I'm right there with you bro. This phone will have crazy developer support, I can't wait to see what happens. Things can only get better especially with support from cyanogen.
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I kind of agree. I'm more annoyed that rooting is the only way to get screenshot/wifi tether privileges..
If those two things were incorporated already (booooo Google & T-Mobile) I probably wouldn't root. I find android pleasantly customizable even without the theming options.

you can capture screen shots without root
i followed the instructions at this link (for the Droid) and works great
you'll need to download the SDK developers kit and the Java developers kit but they're both linked in the instructions and your phone will have to be connected to your PC, but once you've done the download, you'll end up with a shortcut icon on your desktop taking you straight to the screen capture function screen
and shot you see below is a capture of my GPS maps with satellite image layered
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-capture-screenshots-with-your-android-mobile-phone/
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larryccf said:
you can capture screen shots without root
i followed the instructions at this link (for the Droid) and works great
you'll need to download the SDK developers kit and the Java developers kit but they're both linked in the instructions
and shot you see below is a capture of my GPS maps with satellite image layered
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-capture-screenshots-with-your-android-mobile-phone/
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Obviously I meant without using a computer and having to use the SDK. That's a lot more hassle than it should be.

once we have tablets with USB we should be able to put sdk on them(hopefully) and play with our toys using our other toys

sinistersai4d4d said:
I kind of agree. I'm more annoyed that rooting is the only way to get screenshot/wifi tether privileges..
If those two things were incorporated already (booooo Google & T-Mobile) I probably wouldn't root. I find android pleasantly customizable even without the theming options.
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It's actually all T-Mobile's fault, not Google's. T-Mobile would never let its users have that feature for free.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

Arcadia310 said:
It's actually all T-Mobile's fault, not Google's. T-Mobile would never let its users have that feature for free.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
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WEll I was blaming Google for the Screen Shot limitation... but yeah.

[Boot_Animation] [HVGA] [Resized] Android vs. Apple (Vaudeville Android)

Note: I didn't create this, I "just" repacked, converted, scaled and corrected the settings. You can check the original author's thread here.
I repacked two versions of the boot animation.
The first one is a direct resize of the orginal. It is in fullscreen, but as a result of the resizement it will be a bit unscaled. Nothing major, but noticeable nonetheless.
The second one is a scaled resizement of the original. It is also in fullscreen, but completely scaled with the right proportions and framed.
I personally use and recommend this version as it is more beautiful, proportional and the visual experience isn't affected at all.
But anyway, they both work so it's up to you.
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Download links:
Version 2 <-- You will probably want this version.
Version 1
How to install:
1. Rename the downloaded .zip ("ava_vx_bootanimation") to "bootanimation" (without the quotes).
1. Transfer it to the SD card.
2. Using a root explorer copy that file to "/data/local/" (set R/W permissions).
3. Reboot and enjoy!
How to unninstall:
1. Simply delete the file and the boot animation will revert to the original one.
2. Reboot and enjoy!
It is almost impossible to mess up with this but anyway, I am not responsible for whatever you do while using (or not) the instructions and files provided in this thread.
Press the thanks button if you liked! (And think that Android rulez!) ​

That actually made me laugh
Nice bootscreen tbh.

Awesome bro nice one...!!
I juz made my stock 2.3.3 beautiful!!

Hahaha genial man! Just installed it on my phone

innovative boot screen ! cheers

Heh, really funny. If this was Facebook, you'd get a like. So you'll just get a thanks.

So this will work for any custom rom
From: SmartAss City Runs:MiK_CM7

BlackRose 22 said:
So this will work for any custom rom
From: SmartAss City Runs:MiK_CM7
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Yeah, it definitely should work. If by some reason it doesn't, just delete the file and everything will be as before.

When you say r/w you mean click that right .. which is at the top with r/o
stormpack said:
Yeah, it definitely should work. If by some reason it doesn't, just delete the file and everything will be as before.
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From: SmartAss City Runs:MiK_CM7

It works great but I don't like the animation. .. do you have a link to others .. thanks
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cool animation, but i don't know if i feel THAT much hostility towards mac

good working!
i really hate the arrogancy from iphone user that continue to insult we as android user! they think their device are perfect and exclusive!
like the news recently, they really hate we having the instagram application and they don't wanna to make a friend with androiders..
they just a suckers!
you can read the news here: http://inet.detik.com/read/2012/04/...una-ios-cibir-instagram-di-android?i991104com

tentrahedrite said:
good working!
i really hate the arrogancy from iphone user that continue to insult we as android user! they think their device are perfect and exclusive!
like the news recently, they really hate we having the instagram application and they don't wanna to make a friend with androiders..
they just a suckers!
you can read the news here: http://inet.detik.com/read/2012/04/...una-ios-cibir-instagram-di-android?i991104com
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Sometimes I feel sorry for those brainwashed elitists... They can be so self-centered and narrow-minded that actually forget about how things should be. They like to think that the products they own are unique and exclusive but deep inside they know millions also own them. That must get them frustrated. They keep only showing the world the basic principle of unfounded segregation. Anyway, in the end its their loss.
BTW, I updated the links in the first post.

Great work, thanks for sharing!

Wow this is so funny! I'm getting this straight away!

Haha this is bad ass I can't wait to show my friends that have iPhones x)
Sent from...wait gotta remember

Congrats!
Fun, clean and light. Very good!

Misunderstanding

there is so much webtop 3.0 hate when you go looking for info.. either by linux gurus (which immediately earns you my respect, don't get me wrong) or folks who just desperately want to multi task by re-sizing windows =p
perhaps you all aren't aware of what you're actually getting. check it out
this is how we manage files (app launch time: instant)
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this is how we work with documents (app launch time: instant)
this is how we browse the web (app launch time: instant)
this is how we end our day (app launch time: instant)
these are just examples of what we get in tablet mode with various market apps. they will look bigger and better at lapdock HD resolutions. so, think about it please.. then beg your local dev for webtop 3.0 support when ics drivers get here. (i'm assuming a port of webtop 3 roms would be a possibility with ics drivers but i'm not sure on that and that there is a small chance (speculation) we won't get webtop 3 with an official ics due to negative feedback or that we won't get official anything.)

Which phone is used for test?

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Which phone is used for test?
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huh? if you're referring to my 'supposed' launch times those are just estimates or rather more accurately comparisons. generally speaking, when you touch a launcher on an android system rocking 1ghz + 1gb ram it may as well be instant. if you can't measure the time without slow motion.. now lets look at webtop 2.0
click the firefox icon and start counting. this isn't science. this is pointing out the obvious that was obviously overlooked? xD

A.aaron you just hit the nail on the head of why I ditched that oddly wonderful webtop. I couldn't put a finger on it but you did; waiting several seconds to launch good old lightweight firefox on a dual core 1gb ddr2 ram linux machine, and it takes forever! This wasn't even something I realized when I used it so much, as it was easily overloaded. I liked it, but I couldn't quite figure out why I repeatedly wanted vanilla android. It was the obviously overlooked, the stupidly slow speed of webtop for the quite capable hardware. A complete disappointment, further hampered by carrier stupidity. Anyhow, I still think the AP20H is powerful:
Ever played C.H.A.O.S? runs butter smooth stock kernel maximum settings, and much smoother than a CM9 touchpad overclocked to dual core snapdragon s3 at 1.7 ghz. This thing can handle a lot, if the software didn't suck. Webtop 3.0 looks like the anti-suck, being android itself presented much more reasonably

i believe that's specifically why they scripted in autostart. i'm not sure why they wasted like 60px for the dock because essentially its ffos. if they'd advertised it as that it would at least appear to be what it actually is. but i mean, have you tried to scroll facebook in that thing? lol
webtop 3 is a step in the right direction. as a student i can use the office apps native to the platform to do my work assuming i have a decent size screen and reliable input. i've got that, i just need the os =D
and i'll prove it, assuming we get the update this quarter.

The Netflix app sucks major ass. Probably should have used a better example.
Also, showing screenshots from two completely different devices gets kinda confusing.