there is so much webtop 3.0 hate when you go looking for info.. either by linux gurus (which immediately earns you my respect, don't get me wrong) or folks who just desperately want to multi task by re-sizing windows =p
perhaps you all aren't aware of what you're actually getting. check it out
this is how we manage files (app launch time: instant)
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this is how we work with documents (app launch time: instant)
this is how we browse the web (app launch time: instant)
this is how we end our day (app launch time: instant)
these are just examples of what we get in tablet mode with various market apps. they will look bigger and better at lapdock HD resolutions. so, think about it please.. then beg your local dev for webtop 3.0 support when ics drivers get here. (i'm assuming a port of webtop 3 roms would be a possibility with ics drivers but i'm not sure on that and that there is a small chance (speculation) we won't get webtop 3 with an official ics due to negative feedback or that we won't get official anything.)
Which phone is used for test?
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Which phone is used for test?
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huh? if you're referring to my 'supposed' launch times those are just estimates or rather more accurately comparisons. generally speaking, when you touch a launcher on an android system rocking 1ghz + 1gb ram it may as well be instant. if you can't measure the time without slow motion.. now lets look at webtop 2.0
click the firefox icon and start counting. this isn't science. this is pointing out the obvious that was obviously overlooked? xD
A.aaron you just hit the nail on the head of why I ditched that oddly wonderful webtop. I couldn't put a finger on it but you did; waiting several seconds to launch good old lightweight firefox on a dual core 1gb ddr2 ram linux machine, and it takes forever! This wasn't even something I realized when I used it so much, as it was easily overloaded. I liked it, but I couldn't quite figure out why I repeatedly wanted vanilla android. It was the obviously overlooked, the stupidly slow speed of webtop for the quite capable hardware. A complete disappointment, further hampered by carrier stupidity. Anyhow, I still think the AP20H is powerful:
Ever played C.H.A.O.S? runs butter smooth stock kernel maximum settings, and much smoother than a CM9 touchpad overclocked to dual core snapdragon s3 at 1.7 ghz. This thing can handle a lot, if the software didn't suck. Webtop 3.0 looks like the anti-suck, being android itself presented much more reasonably
i believe that's specifically why they scripted in autostart. i'm not sure why they wasted like 60px for the dock because essentially its ffos. if they'd advertised it as that it would at least appear to be what it actually is. but i mean, have you tried to scroll facebook in that thing? lol
webtop 3 is a step in the right direction. as a student i can use the office apps native to the platform to do my work assuming i have a decent size screen and reliable input. i've got that, i just need the os =D
and i'll prove it, assuming we get the update this quarter.
The Netflix app sucks major ass. Probably should have used a better example.
Also, showing screenshots from two completely different devices gets kinda confusing.
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Well, the D2 came out today, and I'm still within my 30 days return window... I'm wondering what people think about swapping the Dinc out for the new D2? I like the Incredible because of its screen, but the bump-charge battery and lack of QWERTY slider is a bit suckage. What would you do?
The d2 has a 720 mhz processor...thats a downgrade.
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The d2 has a 720 mhz processor...thats a downgrade.
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That shows it as a TI OMAP 1ghz.
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Well, the D2 came out today, and I'm still within my 30 days return window... I'm wondering what people think about swapping the Dinc out for the new D2? I like the Incredible because of its screen, but the bump-charge battery and lack of QWERTY slider is a bit suckage. What would you do?
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Camera > downgrade
Processor > extremely slight upgrade
Keyboard > Hate the physical keyboard causing the device to be larger
Root / Roms > nobody knows if this will be possible to unlock (like the droid x) and you also have to wait for root now, if it's even possible
It's also worth noting that the Droid 2 has a much better GPU then the Incredible. If flashing ROMs is important to you I'd think long and hard before switching. If not I'd say go for it.
Yeah, it really comes down to what you like more. Also I don't know if you've had experience with Motoblur before, but since the Droid 2 is not an HTC phone, you will be getting Motoblur instead of Sense as the UI. I have a good feeling it will be rooted in time, as I'm sure it's going to be a popular product so lots of devs will be playing with it.
The Droid 2 GPU smokes the DInc, however there really aren't a lot of applications that can take advantage of that right now and I can't tell you if that is going to change in the future or not. Also do you care about having a hardware keyboard vs a soft kb? If you plan on texting, e-mailing, inputting a lot of data then that should seal the deal.
If you are looking for an answer like "Which phone is better?", then I can't give you that since it's mostly based on personal preference. Yes the Droid 2 has come out later so it is more advanced (except for the fact that I haven't heard a lot of positive feedback about Motoblur) and even though the camera might have a fewer MP count, based on the data I've read you will still be able to achieve the same if not better quality pictures than with the DInc (which requires a lot of manual option settings to get an optimal picture in most cases), plus it comes with some cool video features =).
I would skim over the differences between the two and not focus so much on statistics and more of how you would use the phone on a daily basis, then decide based on that which phone allows you to do such things the easiest.
the Dinc is the best and last of the fully NAND unlocked 1 ghz androids (for VZ anyway). It would take a serious hardware upgrade like a 1.5 ghz process with Wi-Di or HDMI output without discrimination against DRM protected material to get me to make a switch. But that's largely because I value having a fully unlocked OS over most anything else. I also had the option to get the Droid X and didn't get it if that tells you anything.
Incredible all the way; Motorola doesn't know how to make quality phones. http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/droid-2-review/
A big, "Thank you!" to the devs at Xda. I'm a wilderness rock climber/math guy. Always trying to trim that pack down, and been through a slew of laptops, UMPCs, and tablets. Too heavy. Too little battery life. Etc. Then along comes the Xoom.
Yeah!
All that was missing is the math/physics junk I need...and that's were the devs come in:
DOS:
A lot of great old programs will run in dosbox. It's fairly fast. But really, really old.
Mathcad:
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Maple:
1500 places of Pi in 6 seconds. Not bad at all.
Windows:
Totally sucks. Slow. Hard to add software to. Not even worth a screenshot. Try it--you'll hate it.
Ubuntu:
Big win. Supports lots of modern software. Relatively easy to add stuff to. Not as fast as DOS, but fast enough, considering what all it's doing...especially with overclocking (those devs again *grin*).
Desktop:
Maxima:
This thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=962023
and especially this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12686965&postcount=88
helped lots. Change your root/init.sh file resolution to 1280x746 for a good fit. Update your busybox before installing.
Thanks again to all of you who made this possible!
Now, if someone would just port iOS..................................j/k.
Noice! Kinda interested in the DOS and Ubuntu parts. How did you install Ubuntu?
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Noice! Kinda interested in the DOS and Ubuntu parts. How did you install Ubuntu?
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DOS is pretty easy--just grab one of the dosbox apps (https://market.android.com/search?q=dosbox&so=1&c=apps), put an installed version of the program you want to run in /sdcard or /sdcard/external. Searching finds lots of DOS public domain software (http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/, for instance), and tons of information on using dosbox.
The second link in the original post is really all you need to get Ubuntu working. For now, the files are on a SD card for faster transfers, making it easier to use multiple images. Eventually, the best one will go in /sdcard to speed things up a bit.
What software are you wanting to run?
I'll be glad to help, because I sure do owe these forums a lot, and the best way to repay is by helping others.
Now, if some dev will come up with a way to multi-boot into Android/Windows/Linux/iOS....
Holy ****, Maple - I forgot that even existed. Haven't seen it since college.
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Holy ****, Maple - I forgot that even existed. Haven't seen it since college.
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I love Maple & Mathcad, and use them lots. Currently trying to get modern versions running on the Xoom. Maxima (http://www.google.com/search?btnG=G...=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=6af0f014ae16db6c) is close to Maple, and SMath (http://en.smath.info/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73) is similar to Mathcad. I'm looking forward to the SpaceTime (http://www.spacetime.us/) port to Android.
Confession: All that keeps me from being an entry in geekapedia is the fact that I climb rocks, and shoot a mean game of pool. Otherwise, I'm a total loser.
Awesome job, especially with the Ubuntu install! Be cool to have one of these configured with a pen-tester build a a la BackTrack. I'm sure it'll get there as HC develops more.
Thanks for showing what's possible!
Thanks for posting on this. My Ubuntu is running beautifully following your tips, and the threads you linked. I do wish there was an on screen keyboard. The only way I could find for text input was to "send" it which is a bit of a pain. As a fun little side note I'm running Ubuntu off my flash drive using an otg cable. I followed the same directions, just used my flash drive instead of SD.
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Thanks for posting on this. My Ubuntu is running beautifully following your tips, and the threads you linked. I do wish there was an on screen keyboard. The only way I could find for text input was to "send" it which is a bit of a pain. As a fun little side note I'm running Ubuntu off my flash drive using an otg cable. I followed the same directions, just used my flash drive instead of SD.
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The keyboard in the second Ubuntu screenshot is xvkbd:
http://db.tt/KCc26Og
Bluetooth keyboard works, too.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=14302234703
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ram rom 512MB
480*800
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and 1450RMB = 172euros.....=230dollars
holly**** chinese will rule.
he said it was android4.0 but i dont sure.
maybe just a ics UI,maybe a real ics.
512MB ram, 624MHz + 260MHz processor, 480x800 resolution! Yeah, definately a beast. Samsung watch out, the Chinese strike again...
Oh, and it says Android 4.0 UI, I doubt it actually runs ICS.
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512MB ram, 624MHz + 260MHz processor, 480x800 resolution! Yeah, definately a beast. Samsung watch out, the Chinese strike again...
Oh, and it says Android 4.0 UI, I doubt it actually runs ICS.
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+1 I sincerely hope the original poster was sarcastic or I despair about our youth.
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GooPhone...lol, that's probably the best part
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512MB ram, 624MHz + 260MHz processor, 480x800 resolution!
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Perfectly adequate for quite many uses. Not a gaming machine by a long shot, but for example someone with poor vision would definitely like the large screen, and with those specs it would browse the web just fine, handle e-mail and so on.
Oh, and it says Android 4.0 UI, I doubt it actually runs ICS.
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Atleast its specs are fine for ICS, and ICS is just as easy to compile as GB, so I see no reason why not.
It's probably adequate for minor tasks but such a large screen and a relatively low resolution on a low quality screen, I don't know... Definately not "holy ****" as far as I'm concerned. I doubt it's equiped with a decent GPU and that's one of the major requirements for running ICS.
Chances are it isn't even running Android, there are dozens of Chinese iPhone clones running a simple phone OS with iPhone icons and look.
Besides, how much support can you expect from these Chinese copycats as even the major companies are still struggling to update their top models to ICS?
Oh well, you get what you pay for I guess.
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Compairing this and the original is obviously pointless. Yes, some people in China might buy it and yes, I'm sure they'll get some profit out of it.
As far as I'm concerned...I just wanna know if it's running real ICS. If it is...then I'm a bit pissed with our ORIGINAL Samsung devices
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No, it's not. ICS can run even without any hardware-acceleration at all.
Chances are it isn't even running Android, there are dozens of Chinese iPhone clones running a simple phone OS with iPhone icons and look.
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The MediaTek MTK6573 SoC is a fairly popular chip in use on hundreds of different existing Android-phones, there is no reason why it would suddenly run a non-Android OS on this one.
EDIT: Additional information here. Its video-playback capabilities are pretty poor and it only supports FWVGA resolutions, but aside from that it even sports a crude 3D-accelerator, and all the usual goodies like FM-radio, GPS, bluetooth, 802.11n, etc.
Hi all,
I have been working on an HTML5 based reader similar to Flipboard that would work in Android, iPad, Windows 8, etc. However, with news that Flipboard will be releasing to Android this year, I'm debating on if it's worth my time to finish. A few things of note:
It's powered by google reader
It actually has a better image grabbing engine that FB for image detection
Around 32 page layouts thus far
Scales areas and fonts dynamically to fit any resolution tablet/screen
Grabs the first few pages, then keeps going in the background for quick start
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What do you think? Should I put the time in to finish it for everyone?
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I think if u can manage to create and page transition effect that makes flipping through them as exciting as it is on Flipboard then ur App will sell itself....i don't see that on your video.... it's laying out new nicely though.
try to focus on visuals and gestures.
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I think if u can manage to create and page transition effect that makes flipping through them as exciting as it is on Flipboard then ur App will sell itself....i don't see that on your video.... it's laying out new nicely though.
try to focus on visuals and gestures.
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Yea, it's complete alpha stages right now. I don't even have the code in for viewing an article. I won't be taking the exact FB effect, but was planning on making a swipe effect of some kind, but don't want to spend the million hours finishing this out if everyone says "Why bother, we'll use FlipBoard."
Thanks,
B.
Put in mind that Flipboard announced that the company will release the app only for chosen devices ....so if your app suits older less powered devices and have some cool features that are optimized for smooth browsing and doesn't consume battery ...then i think u should work on it and don't give up .
second of all you should know by now people lke to try out new apps every now and then ...we get bored fast my friend
good luck developing ..but if u loose interest then it's also ok .....maybe u will come up with something even better
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Put in mind that Flipboard announced that the company will release the app only for chosen devices ....so if your app suits older less powered devices and have some cool features that are optimized for smooth browsing and doesn't consume battery ...then i think u should work on it and don't give up .
second of all you should know by now people lke to try out new apps every now and then ...we get bored fast my friend
good luck developing ..but if u loose interest then it's also ok .....maybe u will come up with something even better
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Yea, now that the APK is out I'm seeing that Flipboard is working fine on older devices, I think I'll hold off. While I'm happy to continue building this, I don't see much point unless Flipboard doesn't come out tablet optimized. Happy to give people another option, but I only have a limited amount of time, and could never compete with the feature list that FB provides.
Thanks,
B.
I cannot post links . Please google Remix os
Ex-Googlers have created REMIX OS ,this is the android , i would like to run rather than BS phone os. If 3 people can do this , it means something is wrong with google.
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http://www.jide.com/en/mobile/remixos.html
damn if we could flash that on the nexus 9 that would be siiiick
my first impression is .... surface on android. 2GB ram makes me wonder though.
would be sweet if they sold (or gave it away) it as a separate OS so we could run it on any hardware.
Looks like Kickstarter is up...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1123481999/remix-a-laptop-experience-on-a-big-android-tablet
I don't know how, but I was lucky enough to snag one of the $39 units. Looking forward to playing around with it.
Nice score ?
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So what you really want, is multi-window Android, and a launcher capable of showing running applications.
There are a number of 'hack' implementations of this idea, samsung has one, omnirom was working on one last year (haven't heard anything about it in a while), there is this "remix"... there is evidence that google themselves are working on it, but they are taking a more careful approach to it as the hardware Android runs on grows to make this feature more relevant. I sure can't see the use of it on a phone or TV, but a large tablet could benefit from it greatly, or a laptop.
For example, this commit to the Android window manager mentions multi-window: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/base/+/baf6bef001a582fea275bf891294cf1fe9d5472e
The main thing I want is the multi window. I've gone back to my gn10.1 2014 for working out b/c constantly switching b/t google music and jefit was kinda getting on my nerves. Downside is that the gn10.1 speakers suck compared to the n9. Luckily best buy has the charge 2 on sale. almost got the UE but it seemed a but to trebley for my tastes, sounded clean though.
looks good. have nexus 9 with keyboard so the Remix OS would be cool on the Nexus 9.
No android 5.1.. no good multitasking.. supported kickstartar $1.
(If you haven't known about this yet)
You can now pledge $1 and get early access to Remix OS ROM for Nexus 9.
Source: https://liliputing.com/2015/04/jide-to-release-remix-os-custom-rom-for-nexus-9-nexus-10-tablets.html
Edit: I've also backed this up... with $1 lol
Well I'm backing this up and really looking forward to it...
This Rom is a bist, possibly doa. No customization, they have it locked down, no widgets, no app drawer and it has battery issues. Hopefully someone at xda gets a copy and can make it better than jide.
laziod said:
This Rom is a bist, possibly doa. No customization, they have it locked down, no widgets, no app drawer and it has battery issues. Hopefully someone at xda gets a copy and can make it better than jide.
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Where did you get this info? I would like to be a part of this group please...
I received my remix last Friday. From kickstarter. They should be opening up regular sales by the end of the month.
laziod said:
I received my remix last Friday. From kickstarter. They should be opening up regular sales by the end of the month.
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Are the battery issues possibly not ROM related, but device? Curious how this will run on the n9. (If you mean you are using the RemixOS on the actual Jide tablet that is)
I have the tablet and it's a 8500 battery. I believe it's a software issue. They have a way to go on software development to make this a daily driver.
Anyone received the ROM for nexus 9? I haven't received any.
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Anyone received the ROM for nexus 9? I haven't received any.
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They only said May, but right now Jide is likely occupied with fixing their Ultra Tablet. Users are having bugs, and I can't imagine the $1 tier is a priority.
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