Water resistance ability with hairline crack - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a hairline crack across the screen. It's barely noticeable and I have put screen protector over it. Do you guys think it will affect the water resistance ability?
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MUFC17JW said:
I have a hairline crack across the screen. It's barely noticeable and I have put screen protector over it. Do you guys think it will affect the water resistance ability?
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Not to be taken seriously said:
My submarine (or spaceship) has a hairline crack. It's barely noticeable and I put duct tape over it too. So it should be good, right?
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Compare the above to your situation. Any similarities? Both risky? Difficult to quantify risks?
Of course a crack will affect the water resistance. The real question - how much does it affect it would be difficult to answer without testing. I doubt I'd worry about rain as I walk 10 meters from a taxi to a building. But that doesn't mean that I'd count on it surviving a swim in a sink, bathtub, seashore or volcano.
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Haha thanks for the sarcasm.
I had someone tell me it will all depend on how much pressure is applied to the screen
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Attracting too much dust

Who else thinks that the galaxy s attracts too much dust? When I get my phone out of my pocket there is always dust around the edges.
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seeraj15 said:
Who else thinks that the galaxy s attracts too much dust? When I get my phone out of my pocket there is always dust around the edges.
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Are you using synthetic clothes? Plastic case gets charged with static energy if you rub it on synthetic fabric, and attracts dust particles. Using a silicone case helps, as silicone is not affected by the phenomenon.
I really think that you shouldn't have such dusty pockets.
My SGS always looke clean.
Geryatrix said:
I really think that you shouldn't have such dusty pockets.
My SGS always looke clean.
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ROTFL!!!
ZioGTS said:
Using a silicone case helps, as silicone is not affected by the phenomenon.
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I have a silicone case (SGP Silke) but it takes years to take the phone off the pocket... I'd rather have some dust on the phone than having people yell at me for not answering in time... -_-
Grab a leather holster, and problem solved...
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Wash your cloths... of course, without the phone.
You'll be surprised how much dust can be removed from your pants with wash machine
Or even better, throw it in you vacuum cleaner bag. So you won't notice the dust from your pocket
I think its more finger prints than dust but it still gathers up especially on the edges of the screen. I'm also using a screen protector
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I have never, ever noticed very much dust on my phone. Fingerprints are annoying, but I keep my house (and my clothes) clean.
i have the same problem
Where is Kim & Aggie when you need them.
'How clean is your phone'

Screen Scratch Test

Hi guys!
For this test I used a set of keys and a cutter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhoF564nJ_Q
I hope you will like it
Cool. Was this a test device or your own?
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Awesome, thanks so much!
I posted one a bit ago but that was with some knives....the box cutter is impressive.
I am more worried about the small pieces of sand, I think that is what scratches the glass more......But, this video has me almost convinced that I do not need a screen protector.
a test device
"Cool. Was this a test device or your own?"
Wow, this just proves that all the other people complaining about scratches just don't take care of their phones.
Super high, unrealistic drop test now? ;D
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theROMinator said:
Super high, unrealistic drop test now? ;D
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soon
The screens smash pretty easily I think.....
I saw a video posted a week ago or so and waist high on the sidewalk smashed the screen.....
Confirmed my feelings about the screen. When i got the phone it just felt like it could withsand some abuse. Wouldnt go so far to try this myself.
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The screens smash pretty easily I think.....
I saw a video posted a week ago or so and waist high on the sidewalk smashed the screen.....
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Yes, the screen is more sensitive to strong falls than to scratches but as you can see it resisted the sharp cutter
It's advertised as scratch proof, not as shatter proof. Keep that in mind
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member68 said:
It's advertised as scratch proof, not as shatter proof. Keep that in mind
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It's not advertised as either. It's scratch resistant.
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It certainly is scratch proof but as my device shows that actually the glass is very brittle! My screen cracked in my pocket! without me doing anything!
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well a material can only be exceptionally flexible(ductile) or hard(strong), but never both. if you want a material to be more shatter resistant(ductile), then it'll be softer and less scratch resistant. Conversely a harder material will be more scratch resistant but more brittle and prone to shatter. its always a tradeoff between these two physical qualities.
strelk112 said:
It certainly is scratch proof but as my device shows that actually the glass is very brittle! My screen cracked in my pocket! without me doing anything!
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Your problem occurred from a defect in the glass manufacturing process. I don't think that is a standard.
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MiG123 said:
well a material can only be exceptionally flexible(ductile) or hard(strong), but never both. if you want a material to be more shatter resistant(ductile), then it'll be softer and less scratch resistant. Conversely a harder material will be more scratch resistant but more brittle and prone to shatter. its always a tradeoff between these two physical qualities.
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Although this is true in some cases it is not in all. Thanks to chemist and material scientist, treating or chemically finishing materials could give the best of both worlds. Go watch the gorilla glass test on YouTube, it is more scratch resistant than its competitors and almost twice as flexible.
Gorilla Glass has a lot to do with its surface finish as well as the glass itself.
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SlimJ87D said:
Your problem occurred from a defect in the glass manufacturing process. I don't think that is a standard.
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That is exactly my theory but as far as Samsung or any one else is concerned it is accidental damage and no one is willing to believe me i didn't do it!
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Jed Dignazio said:
Gorrilla or not, Its still glass!!!
Bottom line is anything harder than Gorilla glass which has a hardness between 8+9 will scratch the surface.
Iron, steel, nickel, lead, gold, silver or any medal are softer than gorilla glass, so they should not scratch the glass.
On the other hand, sand contains quartz and it could scratch gorilla glass, for example when sand is in your pockets (after a walk on the beach).
One more thing:
a common misconception is: 'make something sharp and it will scratch'. it's wrong. you can make your fingernail or your key as sharp as possible, it is still softer than the glass and it will not scratch.
So, no, keys wont scratch it (steel), but anything harder than 8 on the scale will with no problem. So anybody that has no scratches obviously hasnt made contact to the screen with anything harder than a 8 on this scale.
Hardness Substance or mineral
0.2–0.3 caesium, rubidium
0.5–0.6 lithium, sodium, potassium
1 talc
1.5 gallium, strontium, indium, tin, barium, thallium, lead, graphite
2 hexagonal boron nitride,[10] calcium, selenium, cadmium, sulfur, tellurium, bismuth
2.5 to 3 magnesium, gold, silver, aluminium, zinc, lanthanum, cerium, Jet_(lignite) (lignite)
3 calcite, copper, arsenic, antimony, thorium, dentin
4 fluorite, iron, nickel
4 to 4.5 platinum, steel
5 apatite, cobalt, zirconium, palladium, tooth enamel, obsidian (volcanic glass)
5.5 beryllium, molybdenum, hafnium
6 orthoclase, titanium, manganese, germanium, niobium, rhodium, uranium
6 to 7 glass, fused quartz, iron pyrite, silicon, ruthenium, iridium, tantalum, opal
7 quartz, vanadium, osmium, rhenium
7.5 to 8 hardened steel, tungsten, emerald, spinel
8 topaz, cubic zirconia
8.5 chrysoberyl, chromium, silicon nitride
9-9.5 corundum, silicon carbide (carborundum), tungsten carbide, titanium carbide, stishovite
9.5–10 rhenium diboride, tantalum carbide, titanium diboride, boron nitride, boron [11][12][13]
10 diamond
>10 nanocrystalline diamond (hyperdiamond, ultrahard fullerite)
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Not very relevant at all. ALthough what you say is true, it is not the hardness of Gorilla Glass that lets it perform the way it does, it's the way it is chemically treated that allows it to resist scratches.
You are just talking about a mechanical property but not taking in mind the material process. Yes those materials will eventually scratch the glass (common sense), but whatever the coating on the glass is has to wear off first.
Chemical treatments. There's definitely a lot more to it, I would have to read more extensive datasheets, but here are some.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/sites/all/files/GG2%20PI%20Sheet%20Rev%20b_050912.pdf
Corning® Gorilla® Glass 2 is an environmentally friendly alkalialuminosilicate thin sheet glass that is better able to survive the real world events that most commonly cause glass failure. Its superior
composition allows a deeper layer of chemical strengthening than is
possible with most other chemically strengthened glasses — making it
both durable and damage resistant.
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gorilla glass is almost as hard as diamond
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Funny (and hardcore) S3 scratch test

If you own an S3 you might want to see this, you will be much more relaxed about your S3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie1g4WZJdO4&feature=g-upl
As fasr as I know crystal is harder than steel on the moss scale, he should test it woth sand
Hilarious!....poor cat! What impressed me was that he was hitting the screen quite hard with a very small contact point and quite heavy knives and it didn't break, and he dropped it from quite a height!
yeah gorilla glass 2 seems to be quite the thing :>
a lot of people moan about screen cracks when they drop phone, but if you drop a piece of glass it will break if it lands on a stone or something similar, the point of gg2 is scratch resistance, I think I'm going to try one of those tempered glass screen protectors when they iron out the small flaws in it....the customer service guy on the accessories thread is brilliant
Ive been running without screen protector for 1 month and I dont have a single scratch, not a single one. I do have a Diztronic case though
This video is great, but I still managed to put a 1cm scratch across mine at 2 days old, simply by placing it face down on my bedside table.
Knives vs bedside table, now I know which is more dangerous!
The magic is in the wipe lol. But i will be getting mine this week and its nice to know it will hold up to more abuse that he will get in my pocket ^^
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TimmyRaa said:
This video is great, but I still managed to put a 1cm scratch across mine at 2 days old, simply by placing it face down on my bedside table.
Knives vs bedside table, now I know which is more dangerous!
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Did you accidentally put it on your girlfriends diamond ring?
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Sand can scratch the screen very easily. I've learned it the hard way
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Better to have screen protector.
That guy sounds like guy on FPSrussia youtube videos
These screen test are crap who carries a large army knife around in there pocket with there phone if you do you must have big pockets and why don't they try it with sandpaper see what that does
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These screen test are crap who carries a large army knife around in there pocket with there phone if you do you must have big pockets and why don't they try it with sandpaper see what that does
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Anger issue?
im not so impressed with the Go Rilla Glass2....i have no screen protector but have the Otterbox case with a lip so that the glass never rest on anything.....but i have plenty of micro scratches all over the screen.......From what?
the only thing that i clean it with a micro fiber cloth....WTF needless to say i will be braking it and getting a replacement for this super sensative ass screen.
bullerwins said:
Ive been running without screen protector for 1 month and I dont have a single scratch, not a single one. I do have a Diztronic case though
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I wear a screen protector but not for scratch reasons more for shock proofing.
That little bit of plastic on the screen is likely to absorb a little impact when it falls or gets bumped. Its a bit like those people that put a sticky tape x on their window during violent storms. This glass may be hard, but it can definitely be tougher.
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sabaramo said:
I wear a screen protector but not for scratch reasons more for shock proofing.
That little bit of plastic on the screen is likely to absorb a little impact when it falls or gets bumped. Its a bit like those people that put a sticky tape x on their window during violent storms. This glass may be hard, but it can definitely be tougher.
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Thats not to stop the glass from braking.......that to stop the glass from flying around in that violent storm. as its taped together giving it more weight as a whole instead of small shards everywhere.
so i dont think the protector helps the screen from shattering. just my OP
The glass on our phones are harder than carbon steel.. So it's a no brainer.
But would like to see him use a little rock or some sand, it will funk up the screen..
Get a screen protector, gorilla glass is over rated.
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buljo said:
The glass on our phones are harder than carbon steel.. So it's a no brainer.
But would like to see him use a little rock or some sand, it will funk up the screen..
Get a screen protector, gorilla glass is over rated.
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I think misunderstood is the correct term
jnr21 said:
That guy sounds like guy on FPSrussia youtube videos
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yes, he does

[Q] Is the glass covering the camera Gorilla glass?

Is the glass on the rear camera gorilla glass? It seems very exposed, it very closely touches the surface the phone is laying on, so I am really worried about it scratching
No. It looks like a thin film of something.
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scannon said:
Is the glass on the rear camera gorilla glass? It seems very exposed, it very closely touches the surface the phone is laying on, so I am really worried about it scratching
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Yes, it's Gorilla Glass 3. Also, the glass doesn't exactly touch the surface if the phone is laid upside down. The faux metal rim around the device protrudes out just a tad on the front of the phone, thus crating a small raised lip around the front of the phone.
EDIT: nevermind, I just realized you were talking about the back. I think the battery cover's lip around the camera may protect it some from actually touching the glass. Not sure about it though because I use an aftermarket that has a thin faux leather material that is a tiny bit thicker but makes the phone not nearly as slippery as it is with the OEM plate. The aftermarket backplate I use does have a tiny bit of a raised lip protecting the back camera glass (to a certain extent of course). I believe the OEM backplate may have the same.
myphone12345 said:
Yes, it's Gorilla Glass 3. Also, the glass doesn't exactly touch the surface if the phone is laid upside down. The faux metal rim around the device protrudes out just a tad on the front of the phone, thus crating a small raised lip around the front of the phone.
EDIT: nevermind, I just realized you were talking about the back. I think the battery cover's lip around the camera may protect it some from actually touching the glass. Not sure about it though because I use an aftermarket that has a thin faux leather material that is a tiny bit thicker but makes the phone not nearly as slippery as it is with the OEM plate. The aftermarket backplate I use does have a tiny bit of a raised lip protecting the back camera glass (to a certain extent of course). I believe the OEM backplate may have the same.
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Hardly seems like adequate protection, but maybe in product development scratching wasn't much of an issue
oscarthegrouch said:
No. It looks like a thin film of something.
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You can remove the thin film that comes on it. I hated how it looked and felt so I got rid of it. I used some tape to get it off.
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But isn't the lens naked and unprotected? Yes the film over the camera lens is thin and cheesy, but it's better than nothing.
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But isn't the lens naked and unprotected? Yes the film over the camera lens is thin and cheesy, but it's better than nothing.
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I've had zero scratching and smudging issues and I don't regret removing the plastic for a second. And I don't use a case. In fact, I had more smudging issues with the plastic on. If you'll notice, there's a hole in the middle to let more light through. That hole collected tons of smudges for me.
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Check out the drop test video (Youtube) on Pocketnow. It proves how easily a drop can break that glass and that it is the weakest part of this awesome phone. Make sure to have a good case for your phone. In the drop test vs The HTC One the S4 came out the winner still.
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jpkelly05 said:
Check out the drop test video (Youtube) on Pocketnow. It proves how easily a drop can break that glass and that it is the weakest part of this awesome phone. Make sure to have a good case for your phone. In the drop test vs The HTC One the S4 came out the winner still.
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I've been through a lot of phones without any cracked glass (including an Optimus G) and I've never used a case. I can't stand the extra bulk.
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Too bad we couldn't get one of the glass screen protectors companies to make a perfect sized glass replacement for the camera lens. What I'm taking about is a glass button small enough to adhere to the frame size around the camera element so you could peel off the factory film over the lens and replace it with a strong and scratch resistant glass lens protector. Just like the stuff the screen protectors are made if but meant for the camera lens assembly. I wouldn't imagine it something that would be in high demand and make them lots of money but it would certainly protect the vulnerable camera lens area.
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You can remove the thin film that comes on it. I hated how it looked and felt so I got rid of it. I used some tape to get it off.
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More info on this. I've been trying to remove that damn plastic for 3 days now lmao.
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buzzwyzr said:
More info on this. I've been trying to remove that damn plastic for 3 days now lmao.
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I just took a piece of clear packing tape, stuck it to the plastic, and pulled. Came off right away.
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It helps if you take off the battery cover first.
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[Q] Left pattern after removing screen protector

Hey Guys! Just wanna share this problem. After removing a cheap screen protector on my nexus 4 i still have this pattern - the cutout on proximity sensor and on the camera. I tried scratching it with my nails but there is really no more residue, the surface is flat but the feel on the screen is different on the sensor or the actual glass. Did I remove a coating or something after removing the protector? I also dropped a small amount of alcohol trying to clean it and observed that it follows the pattern. Check out the pictures please. Thank you very much.
What does this mark feel like and how hard is it?
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What does this mark feel like and how hard is it?
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I couldn't describe it but you could barely feel the difference between the real glass (proximity or camera or edges) and the area covered by the screen protector. It seems It'd never be removed. I tried tape, alcohol, scratching it, none worked.
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I couldn't describe it but you could barely feel the difference between the real glass (proximity or camera or edges) and the area covered by the screen protector. It seems It'd never be removed. I tried tape, alcohol, scratching it, none worked.
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Mmmm, I assume that the residue has absorbed into the Gorilla Glass which is really bad in many ways...
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andyabc said:
Mmmm, I assume that the residue has absorbed into the Gorilla Glass which is really bad in many ways...
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Either that, OR it has peeled off the oleophobic coating with it. OP, Do finger prints stick more than usual?
jcmaddox1 said:
Either that, OR it has peeled off the oleophobic coating with it. OP, Do finger prints stick more than usual?
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I thought the term oleophobic is for the steinheil SPs only. Is it really possible? What could possibly happen? Well I cant say, I immediately put a screen protector on the device right after I got it.
i'd say the oleophobic coating just rubbed off completely around the screen protector, mine has a slight problem around the sensor and front camera cut-out but it can only be seen if there are fingerprints on the screen and you know what you are looking for. i think it happens because of sweat/skin oils.

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