Hey Guys! Just wanna share this problem. After removing a cheap screen protector on my nexus 4 i still have this pattern - the cutout on proximity sensor and on the camera. I tried scratching it with my nails but there is really no more residue, the surface is flat but the feel on the screen is different on the sensor or the actual glass. Did I remove a coating or something after removing the protector? I also dropped a small amount of alcohol trying to clean it and observed that it follows the pattern. Check out the pictures please. Thank you very much.
What does this mark feel like and how hard is it?
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andyabc said:
What does this mark feel like and how hard is it?
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I couldn't describe it but you could barely feel the difference between the real glass (proximity or camera or edges) and the area covered by the screen protector. It seems It'd never be removed. I tried tape, alcohol, scratching it, none worked.
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I couldn't describe it but you could barely feel the difference between the real glass (proximity or camera or edges) and the area covered by the screen protector. It seems It'd never be removed. I tried tape, alcohol, scratching it, none worked.
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Mmmm, I assume that the residue has absorbed into the Gorilla Glass which is really bad in many ways...
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Mmmm, I assume that the residue has absorbed into the Gorilla Glass which is really bad in many ways...
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Either that, OR it has peeled off the oleophobic coating with it. OP, Do finger prints stick more than usual?
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Either that, OR it has peeled off the oleophobic coating with it. OP, Do finger prints stick more than usual?
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I thought the term oleophobic is for the steinheil SPs only. Is it really possible? What could possibly happen? Well I cant say, I immediately put a screen protector on the device right after I got it.
i'd say the oleophobic coating just rubbed off completely around the screen protector, mine has a slight problem around the sensor and front camera cut-out but it can only be seen if there are fingerprints on the screen and you know what you are looking for. i think it happens because of sweat/skin oils.
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Just wanted to know if anyone else had a problem with the S-pen scratching their screen. The tip on mine is very sharp and after looking at my screen in daylight, its got hundreds of scratches all over.
I've had loads of phones and have only ever managed to get 1 or 2 scratches on them, nothing like what I have now. Anyone else have this problem?
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If you have been to the beach or somewhere sandy, that could be a problem. Have sand or grains of dirt in your pocket is often the cause.
My S-Pen has neither a sharp nor a very hard tip. It's normal polymer. Maybe you have a thin layer of fat on your screen and the S-Pen is "scratching" that or like already posted you had sand in your pocket.
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Definitely s-pen would not create scratches. Material used in the tip is lighter than material used in Corning glass. May small dust particles may have dragged along when you use s-pen. Whenever use S-pen...just wipe the screen once and use, doing so will avoid scratches.
Still if you feel that the culprit is your S-pen, take a 2000 grit sand paper (widely used for automobile polishing..never go with lower grit!) keep it on glass and roll the tip of the pen gently without high pressure for a minute. This will polish the tip and no more scratches.
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This is pretty common. I've seen many complaints about the screen getting scratched from the tip of S Pen picking up random bits of hard material such as sand etc.
This is why I bought a screen protector to arrive together with my Note.
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Definitely s-pen would not create scratches. Material used in the tip is lighter than material used in Corning glass. May small dust particles may have dragged along when you use s-pen. Whenever use S-pen...just wipe the screen once and use, doing so will avoid scratches.
Still if you feel that the culprit is your S-pen, take a 2000 grit sand paper (widely used for automobile polishing..never go with lower grit!) keep it on glass and roll the tip of the pen gently without high pressure for a minute. This will polish the tip and no more scratches.
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And then you get even more scratches because grit from sandpaper will stick to the polymer tip
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I have no scratches on mine and I play draw something a lot on mine.
Never heard of this. You press to hard i think.
The S-Pen can't scratch the screen UNLESS you exert an extreme force on it. (e,g, banging the tip to the screen all the time or exerting an excessive force in sliding it.)
I don't think Sammy would have developed this phablet with an accompanying S-Pen, if they know that the latter would just damage the phone in the long run.
Overall, in the end, it would be the user's S-Pen usage that matters.. if you just bang away using the S-Pen on the screen always, then overtime, I wouldn't be surprise at all if you get some minor scratches sooner or later.
It's entirely dependent on how the user cares or uncares (if there's a right word for that) in using the Note with the add-on S-PEN.
IMHO...
I've had a screen protector on my Note since day one. After 5 months I'm now about to fit my 2ND one as the film is covered in scratches and trying to see the screen in bright daylight is painful. I've hardly used my s-pen, and yet my protector is covered in scratches. In my case grit or something else abrasive on my finger is probably the culprit!
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I've had a screen protector on my Note since day one. After 5 months I'm now about to fit my 2ND one as the film is covered in scratches and trying to see the screen in bright daylight is painful. I've hardly used my s-pen, and yet my protector is covered in scratches. In my case grit or something else abrasive on my finger is probably the culprit!
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You ever think maby the screen protector is softer than the glass itself? I have not one scratch.
Screen Protector though soft helps protect small scratches caused by dust and normal wear tear...i hv been using a protector ever since I started using touch screen phones
It's not the Spen what's scratching your screen, the problem is dust particles that get in the way while using the spen!
I'm using an ugly bestskinsever screen protector just in case!
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I've had a screen protector on my Note since day one. After 5 months I'm now about to fit my 2ND one as the film is covered in scratches and trying to see the screen in bright daylight is painful. I've hardly used my s-pen, and yet my protector is covered in scratches. In my case grit or something else abrasive on my finger is probably the culprit!
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Whats your point? Screen protectors are made of soft material almost anything can scratch it
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jeriz said:
Whats your point? Screen protectors are made of soft material almost anything can scratch it
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Obviously the point here is that its better to scratch a cheap and easy to replace screen protector than an expensive hard to replace glass screen!
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I'm a pretty heavy user of the S-pen (especially after discovering the game Draw Something!) and never used a screen protector and don't have a scratch on my screen. However I did once notice all these s-pen markings on the screen and after the initial shock i realised it was simply the s-pen cutting through the oily fingerprints!
The s-pen is definitely not sharp to the touch and there is a slight retraction with some pressure. I can't imagine drawing with sand or small particles on it as you kinda feel it as you draw.
The plastic is softer than the glass, this should be possible.
What you might be finding is you have a build up of grease/oils on the screen and the spen is cutting through that.
Give your screen a good polish with a soft cloth, I bet they go away.
From my personal experience, I think the same pen (with a small particle of sand/dust) could make a scratch on the oleophobic coating (fine thin scratch) as in the case of my note. It won't be visible under quick inspection though, but enough bother me so I ended up putting a screen protector on it.
And no, my case is not just grease/oil coz I made a clean wipe before I examine it closely...
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And then you get even more scratches because grit from sandpaper will stick to the polymer tip
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FYI 2000 grit sand paper is designed for not shedding any particles... That's why I mention the exact grit specification. These papers are also used for removing hair line scratches on the glass surfaces. And I also pointed that "gently" hope you read my post completely!
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I had a scratch on mine. About an inch long. Almost surely from the pen (I had no screen protector). I sold it before I did more damage to it.
So, I have been using a screen protector since I bought my S2 for a few days. Yesterday when I was drunk, I realized there are some scratches on it, so I decided to peel if off, thinking having another protector later. And to my surprise, my screen became freaking shiny and colorful and beautiful like a stone turning into a diamond. Now Im feeling like a retard, because that lame protector (in fact it's an expensive one), I suffered from an ugly change of screen color of my S2. I am sure I will never get another screen protector, this screen is too beautiful and it deserves to be seen.
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Screen protector is a stupid idea anyway. Anything that can scratch a gorilla glass will easily go through a flimsy screen "protector" and scratch the glass anyway.
Im using a Zagg Invisible shield, purely through habit as I've had one on all my phones and comparing it to my GFs S2 (with no screen protector at all) there is absolutely no difference, but to each his own
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Very true with out screen guard it looks awesome.
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That depends what screen protector you're using. The matte and the cheap screen protectors are not shiny and look dull, but if you get a good quality screen protector, you won't even notice the difference. Everyone SHOULD have a good quality screen protector because it protects the phone from scratches.
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That depends what screen protector you're using. The matte and the cheap screen protectors are not shiny and look dull, but if you get a good quality screen protector, you won't even notice the difference. Everyone SHOULD have a good quality screen protector because it protects the phone from scratches.
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This kinda right.
I used a costly PS and still notice a little difference in the vividness of color and obviously the touch response is much more different, i mean more prominent. Using it without a PS for a month now and no, I am not applying a PS again.
My scr protector was an expensive one, it doesnt change the touch sensitivity but for God's sake the color is aweful...
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So, I have been using a screen protector since I bought my S2 for a few days. Yesterday when I was drunk, I realized there are some scratches on it, so I decided to peel if off, thinking having another protector later. And to my surprise, my screen became freaking shiny and colorful and beautiful like a stone turning into a diamond. Now Im feeling like a retard, because that lame protector (in fact it's an expensive one), I suffered from an ugly change of screen color of my S2. I am sure I will never get another screen protector, this screen is too beautiful and it deserves to be seen.
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next scrachs gonna be on the screen it self
now that more annoying then less clearty
aydc said:
Screen protector is a stupid idea anyway. Anything that can scratch a gorilla glass will easily go through a flimsy screen "protector" and scratch the glass anyway.
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tell that to my car then. Dropped my phone without a protector and got a small chip/ scratch. Put on a screen protector and it hides the damage. Dropped phone many times since with no further damage....
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Screen protector is a stupid idea anyway. Anything that can scratch a gorilla glass will easily go through a flimsy screen "protector" and scratch the glass anyway.
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Wow...I hope this is sarcasm.
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Wow...I hope this is sarcasm.
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Nope, it's pure logic. You can't scratch gorilla glass. You can only scratch the oleophobic cover on top. If your phones comes across something so strong that even gorilla glass will be scratched, a flimsy screen protector won't be any help.
Ive had a screen protector and all the phones ive owned, and yes you see a difference in the display but i can live with that! and what plank said if you scratch a screen protector it'll go through lol if thats the case then i wouldnt use a screen protector in the 1st place my phone is always in and out of my pocket and most the times its my keys or coins that scratch but underneath my protector the screen has NOTa single mark/scratch and ive gone through loads of protectors since i had my GS2..
Conclusion: i would highly recommend a screen protector ! ChEAp and keeps the gorilla glass free of any scratches!
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I don't use a screen protector, but can see 2 scenarios where my screen can be scratched.
1. The beach with sand... Solution is to get a waterproof case/bag and have some fun too
2. letting my gf or any woman with diamond earrings to talk on the phone... Solution don't let then use my phone!!
Other than that, I even demoed to my friends the key scratch test on my screen frequently. Someone asked what would I do if a drop of super glue lands on my phone... My answer... Use a razor edge and scratch it off!
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No problems here
Been using my S2 phone since it came out. No screen protection at all. No scratches of any description apparent. My screen is still 100% perfect.
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Nope, it's pure logic. You can't scratch gorilla glass. You can only scratch the oleophobic cover on top. If your phones comes across something so strong that even gorilla glass will be scratched, a flimsy screen protector won't be any help.
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Flawed logic. Gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not scratch proof. To scratch it, you need to use something harder than the glass. Metal is softer, so your keys are not going to do harm to the glass, it might scratch the coating only. However, sand is just as hard as glass if not harder. That will scratch through the coating and the glass in one go. Unfortunately, sand is everywhere.
If you want the screen to look good then don't use a matte screen :O
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Rather have the piece of mind knowing that with a screen protector, even if it doesn't protect it that much.. it still gives some protection. Same goes for cases why have use some cases when "some" add very little protection and mostly for looks.
The fist thing to do when i get a friend's phone in my hands is to peal off the protector and pretend it was by mistake
Screenprotectors only effective by blackberry. Since gs2 has gorilla glass..
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domingoo said:
Screenprotectors only effective by blackberry. Since gs2 has gorilla glass..
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Actually no. Gorilla glass isn't completely unbreakable or invincible to scratches, just harder to. You will get some hairline scratches but with a screen protector you won't
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I just noticed this today. This is my 3rd nexus 7 and was hoping it was a keeper but im not too sure now. Its a 32gb c90. Just wondering if anybody else has this same issue. Its not water and does not appear to move. I've tried cleaning it off but it seams to be missing the coating in that area as if someone had touched it while it was drying. Any suggestions of what it might be?
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I just noticed this today. This is my 3rd nexus 7 and was hoping it was a keeper but im not too sure now. Its a 32gb c90. Just wondering if anybody else has this same issue. Its not water and does not appear to move. I've tried cleaning it off but it seams to be missing the coating in that area as if someone had touched it while it was drying. Any suggestions of what it might be?
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It looks to me like the black coating of the bezel de-laminating from the underside of the glass, maybe down to a less than perfectly clean patch on the glass when the bezel coating was applied in manufacture.
Do you have a screen protector on it.. It looks like its under that and not between the glass.
looks like you spilled water or something.
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It looks to me like the black coating of the bezel de-laminating from the underside of the glass, maybe down to a less than perfectly clean patch on the glass when the bezel coating was applied in manufacture.
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The reason I thought it might be the coating on the glass is because if I wipe all of the finger prints off its barley visible but if I swipe over it it reappears. Ill post some pics of what I mean.
See how the skin oil gets "stuck" on the shape.
Anyways I think Im going to return it in case it decides to do more of what it is doing whatever that maybe.
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Do you have a screen protector on it.. It looks like its under that and not between the glass.
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No I do not have a screen protector on it.
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looks like you spilled water or something.
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That's what I first thought but it hasn't been near water and didn't "move" like water when I pushed on it. Also, if you look at the reply below I posted another pic of it. It seems that it may be on top of the glass but I've tried cleaning it with a micro fiber cloth but it stays there. I tried an alcohol swab and it seemed that the alcohol dried faster on that spot than the rest of the screen (I don't usually clean my screens with alcohol unless I cant get something off because I had read that it can destroy the coating on these "new" types of glasses)
Well then its just a defect in the glass or the coating they put on the surface to make it more smooth. Has it always been there.. anyway send it back i would
If you clean the screen then you can't see it?
Then clean the screen and apply a screen protector. That should solve it. I use an SGP Matte and its great.
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If you clean the screen then you can't see it?
Then clean the screen and apply a screen protector. That should solve it. I use an SGP Matte and its great.
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I guess I could do that but I just don't want it to continue to deteriorate and end up having a pos outside of my return window. I think I'll just exchange it and continue the cycle.
Hey guys,
I have my N4 for about a month. But I can already feel the screen getting a slightly rough feeling to it, in the middle, where I touch it most often. If I feel the sides that are not touched as often, they feel perfectly smooth. I never used any other cleaning agent as plain water or never anything else then a microfibre cloth to clean it.
Did anybody else notice the same?
Thanks.
Yeah happening to me too for sure. Its not a permanent coating so its expected :/.
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oleophobic coating has worn off, you need to get some drops for it. it only lasts for a few months and less if you clean thr display with cloth/ shirt.
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How are you guys cleaning your screens?
I've never had an issue with the coatings in the past.
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How are you guys cleaning your screens?
I've never had an issue with the coatings in the past.
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oleophobic coating has worn off, you need to get some drops for it. it only lasts for a few months and less if you clean thr display with cloth/ shirt.
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This is really interesting, yet I never had any coating wearing off in the past. Perhaps my defy did not have a coating at all?
BTW, I googled your coating kit and found instructions on ifixit, love how they show off the oleophobic (oil-hating) coating by dropping water on it
Is this normal in general for cell phones? I don't recall HTC phones having this problem.
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How are you guys cleaning your screens?
I've never had an issue with the coatings in the past.
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Sprinkle some water on it. Wipe with microfibre cloth.
Somehow I miss my defy, I would just apply soap to it and rinse with flowing water
It happened to me too, but on the curved edges on the side which are not covered by my screen protector but by my tpu case.
Strangely, there is a space from about 1 cm on both left and right side which seems okay.
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Is the glass on the rear camera gorilla glass? It seems very exposed, it very closely touches the surface the phone is laying on, so I am really worried about it scratching
No. It looks like a thin film of something.
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Is the glass on the rear camera gorilla glass? It seems very exposed, it very closely touches the surface the phone is laying on, so I am really worried about it scratching
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Yes, it's Gorilla Glass 3. Also, the glass doesn't exactly touch the surface if the phone is laid upside down. The faux metal rim around the device protrudes out just a tad on the front of the phone, thus crating a small raised lip around the front of the phone.
EDIT: nevermind, I just realized you were talking about the back. I think the battery cover's lip around the camera may protect it some from actually touching the glass. Not sure about it though because I use an aftermarket that has a thin faux leather material that is a tiny bit thicker but makes the phone not nearly as slippery as it is with the OEM plate. The aftermarket backplate I use does have a tiny bit of a raised lip protecting the back camera glass (to a certain extent of course). I believe the OEM backplate may have the same.
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Yes, it's Gorilla Glass 3. Also, the glass doesn't exactly touch the surface if the phone is laid upside down. The faux metal rim around the device protrudes out just a tad on the front of the phone, thus crating a small raised lip around the front of the phone.
EDIT: nevermind, I just realized you were talking about the back. I think the battery cover's lip around the camera may protect it some from actually touching the glass. Not sure about it though because I use an aftermarket that has a thin faux leather material that is a tiny bit thicker but makes the phone not nearly as slippery as it is with the OEM plate. The aftermarket backplate I use does have a tiny bit of a raised lip protecting the back camera glass (to a certain extent of course). I believe the OEM backplate may have the same.
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Hardly seems like adequate protection, but maybe in product development scratching wasn't much of an issue
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No. It looks like a thin film of something.
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You can remove the thin film that comes on it. I hated how it looked and felt so I got rid of it. I used some tape to get it off.
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But isn't the lens naked and unprotected? Yes the film over the camera lens is thin and cheesy, but it's better than nothing.
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But isn't the lens naked and unprotected? Yes the film over the camera lens is thin and cheesy, but it's better than nothing.
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I've had zero scratching and smudging issues and I don't regret removing the plastic for a second. And I don't use a case. In fact, I had more smudging issues with the plastic on. If you'll notice, there's a hole in the middle to let more light through. That hole collected tons of smudges for me.
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Check out the drop test video (Youtube) on Pocketnow. It proves how easily a drop can break that glass and that it is the weakest part of this awesome phone. Make sure to have a good case for your phone. In the drop test vs The HTC One the S4 came out the winner still.
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Check out the drop test video (Youtube) on Pocketnow. It proves how easily a drop can break that glass and that it is the weakest part of this awesome phone. Make sure to have a good case for your phone. In the drop test vs The HTC One the S4 came out the winner still.
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I've been through a lot of phones without any cracked glass (including an Optimus G) and I've never used a case. I can't stand the extra bulk.
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Too bad we couldn't get one of the glass screen protectors companies to make a perfect sized glass replacement for the camera lens. What I'm taking about is a glass button small enough to adhere to the frame size around the camera element so you could peel off the factory film over the lens and replace it with a strong and scratch resistant glass lens protector. Just like the stuff the screen protectors are made if but meant for the camera lens assembly. I wouldn't imagine it something that would be in high demand and make them lots of money but it would certainly protect the vulnerable camera lens area.
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You can remove the thin film that comes on it. I hated how it looked and felt so I got rid of it. I used some tape to get it off.
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More info on this. I've been trying to remove that damn plastic for 3 days now lmao.
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buzzwyzr said:
More info on this. I've been trying to remove that damn plastic for 3 days now lmao.
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I just took a piece of clear packing tape, stuck it to the plastic, and pulled. Came off right away.
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It helps if you take off the battery cover first.
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