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Please hold back your remarks about screen protectors this was a replacement, only the second day I had it, didnt have a chance to purchase one.
Joeriginal said:
Please hold back your remarks about screen protectors this was a replacement, only the second day I had it, didnt have a chance to purchase one.
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Think you could post a pic of the damage? if it's not too deep, i've heard of people using this product called applesauce that is supposed to give really good results. Maybe try that out and see how it works. Good luck to you, hope you get the scuffs out
You could try rubbing compound which is used on watches and things.
zone23 said:
You could try rubbing compound which is used on watches and things.
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Yeah, just thought of this after I read this post but you can also try the stuff that is used to fill in cracks for car windshields.
light scuffs
I've heard that white toothpaste can be used on light scuffs on plastic.
or perhaps Brasso polish?
The screen on the evo is made of gorilla glass, not plastic. Therefore acid based compounds such as applesauce or lcd scuff removers on the market would not work. The famous banana slice/peel trick doesn't work here either. Some compounds for watches only clean the surface of the glass and remove dirt from within the scratches, making the scratch less visible.
Your best bet is to clean the glass to remove all dirt then install a screen protector like invisibleshield to mask the scratches. This will work better since a liquid solution (usually 1 part soap and 9 parts water) is applied to the screen so you can squeegee out all the air during installation. The only downside to this is the texture feels like apple skin and screen clarity is affected...maybe 15-20%.
myenhdl said:
The screen on the evo is made of gorilla glass
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No, it's not. Just regular glass.
myenhdl said:
The screen on the evo is made of gorilla glass, not plastic. Therefore acid based compounds such as applesauce or lcd scuff removers on the market would not work. The famous banana slice/peel trick doesn't work here either. Some compounds for watches only clean the surface of the glass and remove dirt from within the scratches, making the scratch less visible.
Your best bet is to clean the glass to remove all dirt then install a screen protector like invisibleshield to mask the scratches. This will work better since a liquid solution (usually 1 part soap and 9 parts water) is applied to the screen so you can squeegee out all the air during installation. The only downside to this is the texture feels like apple skin and screen clarity is affected...maybe 15-20%.
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Not sure if it's made of Gorilla glass-- not saying that it scratches easily (because it probably doesn't), but I found I had a two very,very slight surface scratches on the screen after babying it for a month (always put it in an empty pocket with no keys/coins/etc, never set it face down, etc).
In any case, I wouldn't try using toothpaste, brasso, or any other solution on the screen except for an eyeglass/electronic screen cleaner as you'll probably end up creating more noticable scratches. Just clean the screen as well as you can, and throw on a screen protector, and you'll probably never notice the scratch-- most very small scratches are only noticable when viewing the screen at a very oblique angle to catch a reflected light source, and the screen protector blocks this.
Also, I wouldn't recommend the ZAGG. I had never used a ZAGG screen protector before, but have heard great things about them, and I'm not particularly picky or sensitive about screen protectors. However, I found the Zagg protector had a horrible rubbery feel to it, and gave the screen a really bad and noticable orange peel effect (actually, the effect seemed more like the screen was behind a 1/4" layer of ice). I put on a cheapo $1.99 screen protector from Gizmo Dorks (on Amazon.com), and the difference was like night and day-- the screen was just as smooth and clear as the original glass.
I have a few too... Leave it be and after a couple weeks you'll forget you even have them.
Can we buy the glass yet for this phone? I replace iPhone 3G and 3GS glass on an almost daily basis at work.
You don't have insurance on it???
myn said:
You don't have insurance on it???
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He might... but I'm not sure a $100 deductible + limited further coverage is worth a few small scuffs. I guess it depends on how bad they are, but if they are anything like mine it totally would not be worth it.
You should be more carefull with your EVO.
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Kooper113 said:
No, it's not. Just regular glass.
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No, it is Gorilla glass.
n64kps said:
No, it is Gorilla glass.
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Since the debate is going back n forth about the glass.....what is the difference between the two? Sure i could search but since there's a debate I think it should be explained this thread...
I looked all over and can't find anything confirming it's Gorilla Glass so I assume it's not. Plus I wouldn't find so many people with easily cracked screens if it was...
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http://www.androidcentral.com/evo-4g-screen-scratch-test-isnt-pretty - no scratches
I watched that when I got my EVO back in June but don't have the balls to try it. Some of the pics online of cracked screens still make me wonder and NERVOUS!
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n64kps said:
No, it is Gorilla glass.
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Can you post where you got this proof?
n64kps said:
No, it is Gorilla glass.
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If you are so sure of yourself, why don't you post a video of yourself stabbing the screen with a ball-point pen to prove that it's really Gorilla Glass?
I noticed on the screen when I breathe hot moist air on to it, there are streaks of lines running across everywhere and I'm assuming it's thinning on the oleophobic screen. I just bought it about a week ago, should I replace it? I ordered a carbon fiber from skinomi and it hasn't arrived, and I really like using the device.
Does anyone use warm water with detergent to clean their screen by any chance?
As far as I know, you're not suppose to use chemicals on your screen.
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I've always found giving a wipe with glasses lens cloth does the trick.
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Does anyone use warm water with detergent to clean their screen by any chance?
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LOOL, hell no man. Do you want to ruin your display in a matter of days ?! Just use a glasses lens cloth as tumblerer said and that should do the trick.
Also, all those lines that you mentioned, that run across the display are part of the digitizer, not the oleo-phobic surface.
tumblerer said:
I've always found giving a wipe with glasses lens cloth does the trick.
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snap. get a good glasses cloth and gently wipe from side to side. i find circle leaves smear stains which can sometimes look like scratches and freak you out!
i've also heard that to effectively clean glasses, you should apply a bit of water - a fine mist - but i never do, and i'm happy with the screen tbh.
also, when i first took the plastic cover thing off the screen i found what looked like a bumpy textured surface. maybe that's the cause of your smear stains?
but, damn, the screen is so bright, does it really matter
lambda30 said:
LOOL, hell no man. Do you want to ruin your display in a matter of days ?! Just use a glasses lens cloth as tumblerer said and that should do the trick.
Also, all those lines that you mentioned, that run across the display are part of the digitizer, not the oleo-phobic surface.
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What about soap? I heard using warm water with soap will get rid of finger oil completely off the screen.
SovereigN7 said:
What about soap? I heard using warm water with soap will get rid of finger oil completely off the screen.
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nothing, no soap, no bleach, nothing. you will ruin it.
I just use my t-shirt, run it over my man-boob a few times and it's print-free
JWhipple said:
I just use my t-shirt, run it over my man-boob a few times and it's print-free
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haha.. man-boob yeah i do the same.. works perfect ;b
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JWhipple said:
I just use my t-shirt, run it over my man-boob a few times and it's print-free
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Agreed. Just don't use any chemical substance. Do you want to make it suffer ? lol
As has been pointed out many times above, you shouldn't use anything other than a smooth cloth to clean the screen.
If the screen is sticky and you absolutely have to use something to help get it off, you should use water, preferably pure distilled water as tap water can have some grit to it as well as trace chemicals.
Never ever use soap, alcohol, goo gone, or anything of the sort. Probably shouldn't even use saliva.
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I noticed on the screen when I breathe hot moist air on to it, there are streaks of lines running across everywhere and I'm assuming it's thinning on the oleophobic screen. I just bought it about a week ago, should I replace it? I ordered a carbon fiber from skinomi and it hasn't arrived, and I really like using the device.
Does anyone use warm water with detergent to clean their screen by any chance?
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replace it, the coating shouldnt come off
mmas0n said:
As has been pointed out many times above, you shouldn't use anything other than a smooth cloth to clean the screen.
If the screen is sticky and you absolutely have to use something to help get it off, you should use water, preferably pure distilled water as tap water can have some grit to it as well as trace chemicals.
Never ever use soap, alcohol, goo gone, or anything of the sort. Probably shouldn't even use saliva.
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How about licking the screen
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I find the best way to clean anything I have is to breathe on it than use micro fiber cloth while it's still moist from my breath.
Gets smudges off everything.
if u have been using ur phone without a screen protector like i did, u will notice that the coating of the the screen got several scratches all over that can only be seen in odd angles under a bright light........ is anyone else experiencing this or is it just me ?? !!!
i have got a dozen of fine scratches all over my screen........is there anything i can do about it ??
No screen protector, no scratches here. Have you tried to vigorously clean the areas with scratches? I thought I had a fine scratch a few days ago, but it cleaned off
yeah i tried to clean them off but in vain
they are small fine scratches in the coating, and some are long ones beside the speaker
i found out that the coating is highly scratchable which defeats the purpose of a gorilla glass
and if i use a SP on this beautiful screen it defeats the purpose of the coating too
im just thinking of leaving it as it is and when it looks really bad to remove the coating !!
unless there is something else i can do !!
anyone else experiencing same problem ?
is there any solution for this problem....AKA fixing oleophobic coating scratches ?
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105979
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I havnt got a screen protector on mine, but always keep it in my pdair case. Its still unscratched, not even the fine scratches you mentioned. Im actually waiting for my screen protector to arrive (in about 2 weeks time) so hopefully it stays this way.
Anyway you should try keep it in a pouch, away from sharps like sand and stone jewellery. Eg, womens diamond earrings will scratch your screen.
It is RULE for any portable screen based devices to NOT BE TOUCHED until screen protector placed on the device.
Not trying to sound rude in anyway (don't like scratches either), even if Gorilla glass is break resistant, it can still a scratched just like ant other material.
I guess your going to have to wait until repair parts start becoming available online for you to buy a replacement glass.
For phones with oleophobic coating, yes there will be fine scratches after a while only noticeable at weird angles and in bright light like you mentioned.
My Nexus S and every other nexus S I've seen has it (except brand new ones) and I'm sure the SGS2 is similar.
You just have to ask yourself, what's the point of the oleophobic coating if you put a screen protector over it?
Mustinky said:
anyone else experiencing same problem ?
is there any solution for this problem....AKA fixing oleophobic coating scratches ?
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no screen no case nothing to hide the beauty. just got it yesterday i will report back in a week.
malignau said:
I havnt got a screen protector on mine, but always keep it in my pdair case. Its still unscratched, not even the fine scratches you mentioned. Im actually waiting for my screen protector to arrive (in about 2 weeks time) so hopefully it stays this way.
Anyway you should try keep it in a pouch, away from sharps like sand and stone jewellery. Eg, womens diamond earrings will scratch your screen.
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im pretty sure if u examined ur screen under bright light at some odd angles u will notice fine scratches out there, i have been really careful with my phone and still i got like 8 fine scratches in the coating, it seems that the coating is highly scratchable which defeats the purpose of the gorilla glass which is scratch resistant
You know what a good solution is? Um using a screen protector....
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Extreme184X said:
It is RULE for any portable screen based devices to NOT BE TOUCHED until screen protector placed on the device.
Not trying to sound rude in anyway (don't like scratches either), even if Gorilla glass is break resistant, it can still a scratched just like ant other material.
I guess your going to have to wait until repair parts start becoming available online for you to buy a replacement glass.
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even if i got a new screen it will get scratched, the problem is not with the glass, i have been very careful, the coating is just highly scratchable, im thinking of removing the coating with some chemical dissolvent later when it really looks bad
dinan said:
For phones with oleophobic coating, yes there will be fine scratches after a while only noticeable at weird angles and in bright light like you mentioned.
My Nexus S and every other nexus S I've seen has it (except brand new ones) and I'm sure the SGS2 is similar.
You just have to ask yourself, what's the point of the oleophobic coating if you put a screen protector over it?
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yes exactly, the coating is there to protect the screen from oil and smudges, but it is highly scratchable which deafeats the purpose of a gorilla glass which is scratch resistant, so now i should put a screen protector to protect the coating from getting scratched, which in turn defeats the purpose of the coating as it will become totally useless !!!!
i think we shud just remove the coating at some point using some chemical dissolvents, as i find no point of keeping it under a screen protector anyway :S
So I bought one of those screen protectors that require you to put a combination of water and a little soap to apply. Then you squiggy out the water to get the protector to apply. I've used these many times on my phones but it just occured to me that I can't take the battery out of this tablet......kind of scared to put this thing on because even though you're not using a lot of water, when you squiggy out the screen you get enough water that might get into some of the cracks around the screen and short the tab out.
Am I paranoid? any one have luck applying on one of these types of screen protectors?
I applied the skinomi screen protector the other day with no problems so far. I don't think the little amount of water used will damage the device just don't go overboard lol
don worry about it..
think about how worries you are about wiping the glass without a screen protector?
wont have to worry about that after its on. i even use my sleeve at this point.
Just make sure its like a surgery atmosphere...lol i left one small, tiny fiber of lint which i only noticed after it dried up.
no biggie. screen is safe though
Don't worry. You and it will be fi.......ZZZAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!
Place some tissue paper around the edges to soak up the liquid as you squeegee it out of the sides. Job done.
Installed the skinomi skin last month as well but it came with their own solution so i dont know how different that is with soap and water.
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love my Skinomi
I did the Skinomi and it looks great. Had a few bubbbles but they went away. Resists fingerprints too. Do it.
Personally, I have never gotten the "hang" of applying wet protectors. Lord knows I've tried but, as the OP said, I share the leeriness of getting water anywhere near electrical devices. I know, I know....unfounded OCD...but as long as dry apply units are available and work well, I'm in!
Wait, I read that the Transformer has Gorilla Glass... So why would you need a screen protector? Gorilla Glass is scratch proof.
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Wait, I read that the Transformer has Gorilla Glass... So why would you need a screen protector? Gorilla Glass is scratch proof.
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No, it is scratch resistant. Big difference.
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Don't worry. You and it will be fi.......ZZZAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!
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I really lol'd, thanks for the laugh.
Thanks for the feed back everyone. Ill get it installed this weekend. Ill probably play it extra safe and completely drain the battery.
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No, it is scratch resistant. Big difference.
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It's VERY scratch resistant. Anything that's going to scratch it will probably break through the screen protector and scratch it anyway.
Hey guys,as title says(kind of anyway),I've had enough of the oleophobic coating on the SGS2.Fingerprints stay on screen no matter(I have very oily skin,unfortunately) and it's not any better than my Desire HD for that matter.Not that it bothers me for that,but it SCRATCHES like hell.I already have more fine scrathces on my GS2 after 2 weeks than on my DHD after 7 months.So I want to remove the oleophobic coating.
Now,I know it's done somehow by cleaning the screen using certain cleaning stuff,but what cleaning stuff?Can I use a window cleaner or something?And should I wipe it with a fiber cloth?
Thanks guys!
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Hey guys,as title says(kind of anyway),I've had enough of the oleophobic coating on the SGS2.Fingerprints stay on screen no matter(I have very oily skin,unfortunately) and it's not any better than my Desire HD for that matter.Not that it bothers me for that,but it SCRATCHES like hell.I already have more fine scrathces on my GS2 after 2 weeks than on my DHD after 7 months.So I want to remove the oleophobic coating.
Now,I know it's done somehow by cleaning the screen using certain cleaning stuff,but what cleaning stuff?Can I use a window cleaner or something?And should I wipe it with a fiber cloth?
Thanks guys!
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some one said he used polish liquids
i recommend liter fluid
OP, take my advice , do NOT do it! You think the coating is not helping, wait till you remove it! It will be 100 times worse, literally!
If you do decide to rid the screen of the coating - I succeeded (on SGS1) with Chlorine toilet bowl cleaning liquid, but be very careful to not get it inside speakers/mikes. All the scratches remained though, mine were in the glass, not the coating.
You want that coating on there. Just get a screen protector and maybe a matte one if the finger prints bother you.
Damn,I hate screen protectors...
KreoXDA,mine are most probably not on the glass itself.I can't feel them with my fingernail(And I have long fingernails on my right hand-classic guitar player anyone? ) like I could with such scratches on other phones.Anyway,I'll see if I can find some good screen protector.All I've used just crapped all over my touchscreen experience.I'd try Zaggs,but guess what!NOT available in Greece!I''m losing my patience here...
ZAGGS are the WORST for sensitivity!!, STAY AWAY
try an steinheil one? their ultrathin series is good
blickmanic said:
ZAGGS are the WORST for sensitivity!!, STAY AWAY
try an steinheil one? their ultrathin series is good
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Yeah...Well,I found Zaggs(they even came to Greece...Oh well!) but I cannot find Steinheils.What about Belkin?They have a matte overlay that I think would be nice.
Also,what do you mean that Zaggs are the worst for sensitivity?Is it harder to select something on the screen with a protector on?
Thanks anyway pal!
zaggs are the thickest screen protectors on the market!, they ruin the touchscreen experience, they DO block fingerprints well though. they also have the 'orange peel' effect on them.
woops, the SGP steinheil ones arent available *yet*
meanwhile, THIS should suit your needs...
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zaggs are the thickest screen protectors on the market!, they ruin the touchscreen experience, they DO block fingerprints well though. they also have the 'orange peel' effect on them.
woops, the SGP steinheil ones arent available *yet*
meanwhile, THIS should suit your needs...
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Well,I'll see if I can find it in Greece or else...E-bay it is!I have never bought anything from e-bay though...Will buy a jig,that's for sure!
tolis626 said:
Hey guys,as title says(kind of anyway),I've had enough of the oleophobic coating on the SGS2.Fingerprints stay on screen no matter(I have very oily skin,unfortunately) and it's not any better than my Desire HD for that matter.Not that it bothers me for that,but it SCRATCHES like hell.I already have more fine scrathces on my GS2 after 2 weeks than on my DHD after 7 months.So I want to remove the oleophobic coating.
Now,I know it's done somehow by cleaning the screen using certain cleaning stuff,but what cleaning stuff?Can I use a window cleaner or something?And should I wipe it with a fiber cloth?
Thanks guys!
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When I got burgled the police said finger prints actually very difficult to pickup because finger tips don't have sweat glands. Relies on someone touching their face or hair or rubbing their palms together. This its not meant to be pointed comment but as you offered a reason, Try doing less of that
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Oh and I ordered sgp ones from the place recommended on the accessories thread. delivered from korea to uk, good stuff.
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crypticc said:
When I got burgled the police said finger prints actually very difficult to pickup because finger tips don't have sweat glands. Relies on someone touching their face or hair or rubbing their palms together. This its not meant to be pointed comment but as you offered a reason, Try doing less of that
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Oh sh!t,I didn't know that.And I was blaming my fingers for nothing?
Well,I'll try and touch my face less.When I sweat(especially now in the summer with the high temperatures) it gets oily like hell.It will get better with time(It's a puberty thing partially like acme),but for now it's killing me.
Thank you for the heads up though.Finally I found cops usefull!
My advice: polish your face often .
What i do is clean the screen with my shirt so now and then. Some days its worse then others...
Can I ask how you guys manage to scratch your screen? I've got *very* long nails (I'm a girl ), never bother with screen protectors and I've yet to scratch a screen (HD2 stayed pristine for over 18 months, so is the S2 after a month) and shock horror, I don't always put my phone in a case before flinging it in my handbag though it's usually in a separate pocket... As for fingerprints, well a wipe on my jeans or t-shirt usually takes care of that.
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Can I ask how you guys manage to scratch your screen? I've got *very* long nails (I'm a girl ), never bother with screen protectors and I've yet to scratch a screen (HD2 stayed pristine for over 18 months, so is the S2 after a month) and shock horror, I don't always put my phone in a case before flinging it in my handbag though it's usually in a separate pocket... As for fingerprints, well a wipe on my jeans or t-shirt usually takes care of that.
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A girl around here?I'm impressed!
Anyway,I too have long fingernails on my right hand because I play the guitar,but they don't damage the screen.I go to the beach very often and sand particles find their way everywhere.Now THEY do damage. ;-)
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Isadora said:
Can I ask how you guys manage to scratch your screen? I've got *very* long nails (I'm a girl ), never bother with screen protectors and I've yet to scratch a screen (HD2 stayed pristine for over 18 months, so is the S2 after a month) and shock horror, I don't always put my phone in a case before flinging it in my handbag though it's usually in a separate pocket... As for fingerprints, well a wipe on my jeans or t-shirt usually takes care of that.
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Guys hands tend to have more dirt (from putting their hands on the bench, on the ground or at the beach). As a result, there will be one or two tiny sand particles which then scratches the screen when they use the phone.
here is links to Steinheil protectors..enjoy..
http://www.exportprive.com/samsung-screen-protectors-c-1164_1224_1232.html
did you try alcohol and windex?
alcohol will remove the oleophobic coating, but very slowly. you'll end up with a haze.
i used meguiar's scratchx 2.0 to remove a scratch, not realizing there was a coating. result was a hazy ring where i had removed the coating.
tried rainx, with improved the slick feel but also caused more of the haze effect (alcohol). ended up using scratchx to remove the whole coating, using a flashlight to check, and putting a realook protector on. luckily the result is fantastic.
that said, don't remove any coating unless you really really have to. it doesn't seem like it but it is way better at preventing smudges than just glass.
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When I got burgled the police said finger prints actually very difficult to pickup because finger tips don't have sweat glands.
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A good friend of mine is a dermatologist. You and/or the cops are wrong. Maybe they tell that story to everybody so they don't get their hopes to high.
You can test for youself though. Wash you hands with antibacterial soap and dry them with and air handdryer. Hold your hand steady for 10 minutes without touching anything and then see i you'll leave prints on you phone