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Which case for the Prophet would you recommend?
My main criteria are:
- Screen protection
- As slim as possible
- Leather (desired)
- Cheap :wink:
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the slimest there is... you can't use the touchscreen unfortunatly (or am I wrong maybe?)
anyway I havn't seen a leather case that wouldn't make a brick out of a prophet. I find it strange - you can quite comfortably put a prophet in your pocket, wich makes it very portable, but you can't have a case that doesn't spoil it.
You might find the following case suitable. I believe it adds the least volume to the unit given that it is conformal and very thin. (There might be something better, but I'm not aware of it.)
http://www.ebcases.com/Detail.bok?no=3331
There is also the possibility to customize the case as well for a fee. Thus one can ask the supplier to minimize thickness rather than providing the maximal protection to the unit.
After much pondering I came to the conclusion that having no case was best. It keeps the prophets small foot print and is still very useable. Invest in a good screen protector though.
drwhitesnake said:
After much pondering I came to the conclusion that having no case was best. It keeps the prophets small foot print and is still very useable. Invest in a good screen protector though.
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I felt exactly the same until I accidentally dropped mine about 2 1/2 feet onto a tile floor and it dented/scratched the top corner of the device. Not extreme, but it was only a light tap on the ground.
I immediately went out and bought a gel skin made for the Prophet. Adds nothing to the weight/size/form-factor of the device.
I saw one that had a flip down plastic screen protector as well, but figured that was a little overkill.
Of course, these are in cell phone shops all over Asia, don't know about other countries.
I've found many people on the street using these skins instead of cases just because of the form-factor element. It's a shame to ruin such portability and, dare I say, elegance, to protect it.
But even now I feel like one of those guys that leaves his television remote control in the cellophane wrap so that it won't get any wear and tear... it was made to be used!
vsc said:
You might find the following case suitable. I believe it adds the least volume to the unit given that it is conformal and very thin. (There might be something better, but I'm not aware of it.)
http://www.ebcases.com/Detail.bok?no=3331
There is also the possibility to customize the case as well for a fee. Thus one can ask the supplier to minimize thickness rather than providing the maximal protection to the unit.
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Hi vsc, that is a great case - the best I have seen so far! Thanks for the link.
I see that this case is for the Jam though - are the Jam and Jamin 100% identical (the form is identical (I believe) but not the button arrangement, right?).
I will contact ebcases directly also.
Thanks!
I asked the guys in the UAE and was told that the JAM / JAMin are identical. From the spec sheet they are within 0.2mm in size.
To be honest I had one of these in hand a few weeks ago and there was no issues with button placement and fitement in the case.
thulsey said:
I felt exactly the same until I accidentally dropped mine about 2 1/2 feet onto a tile floor and it dented/scratched the top corner of the device. Not extreme, but it was only a light tap on the ground.
I immediately went out and bought a gel skin made for the Prophet. Adds nothing to the weight/size/form-factor of the device.
I saw one that had a flip down plastic screen protector as well, but figured that was a little overkill.
Of course, these are in cell phone shops all over Asia, don't know about other countries.
I've found many people on the street using these skins instead of cases just because of the form-factor element. It's a shame to ruin such portability and, dare I say, elegance, to protect it.
But even now I feel like one of those guys that leaves his television remote control in the cellophane wrap so that it won't get any wear and tear... it was made to be used!
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That is the reason why I really think that a protecting case is necessary (in case the device falls that is) - specially for a $600 device.
On the flip side, adding unnecessary bulk to a device which was purchased due to its slim form factor is kind of contradicting. Thus, I am searching for a very slim case, which still provides protection.
thulsey, which silicon case are you using? Have you heard of Skintight cases from Pamwarelabs http://www.palmwarelabs.com/Products/ProdList.aspx?CateID=36 ?
vsc said:
I asked the guys in the UAE and was told that the JAM / JAMin are identical. From the spec sheet they are within 0.2mm in size.
To be honest I had one of these in hand a few weeks ago and there was no issues with button placement and fitement in the case.
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Thanks vsc!
As long as the cut outs are not covering buttons, I guess thats fine then.
So, from the pictures of their website, the case really looks very tight and it appears that it doesnt add any (at least not too much) bulkiness to the s200. How does the case appear if you saw this it in person and on a Prophet? Do the pictures reflect the impression given on their site?
What about these?
Has anyone tried out the aluminium cases like the ones sold on expansys? Or this one for example
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=71
I know the last one is kind of not a case, but a carying holster, but nevertheless...
Yes the pictures are a good representation of the actual case.
Note that the cover flap has padding on the outside surface, but the supplier can manufacture the case without the padding to reduce volume. There is a hard card within the flap, so I don't consider the padding to serve any purpose.
On the other hand the case I'm using while I wait for the leather case is from Brando,
http://shop.brando.com.hk/bwsiliconecase_details.php?id=49
Simply put the unit in your pocket with the screen facing inward.
vsc said:
Yes the pictures are a good representation of the actual case.
Note that the cover flap has padding on the outside surface, but the supplier can manufacture the case without the padding to reduce volume. There is a hard card within the flap, so I don't consider the padding to serve any purpose.
On the other hand the case I'm using while I wait for the leather case is from Brando,
http://shop.brando.com.hk/bwsiliconecase_details.php?id=49
Simply put the unit in your pocket with the screen facing inward.
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I will contact the supplier to see how much the case would be without the padding. Anything, which makes the case a little slimmer helps - specially for that price.
Btw, is it cumbersome to put the silicon case on and off? I was thinking about the silicone case but I would have to put the device out of the case every day (for charging in desktop cradle and car mount, etc) and dont want o fiddle with this each day. Way easier to simply slight it into a case.
Changes to the case were US$10.
With respect to the Brando case...seconds. The problem is really related to the material's affinity for dust. Drop it in your pockets and you would be amazed as to the mount of crud it picks up. It wipes off with a microfiber cloth or cleans up with water.
Craic Dub said:
I will contact the supplier to see how much the case would be without the padding. Anything, which makes the case a little slimmer helps - specially for that price.
Btw, is it cumbersome to put the silicon case on and off? I was thinking about the silicone case but I would have to put the device out of the case every day (for charging in desktop cradle and car mount, etc) and dont want o fiddle with this each day. Way easier to simply slight it into a case.
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got a brando silicone skin and it tore in the corner of the screen where it is thin. It also had a spot on the keypad that was thicker making it look like a black dot and not transparent. I found it to fit very well, but was a little thick, felt like a Wizard when holding it. Dust isn't too bad if you're not a dirtbag.
got a brando silicone skin and it tore in the corner of the screen where it is thin. It also had a spot on the keypad that was thicker making it look like a black dot and not transparent. I found it to fit very well, but was a little thick, felt like a Wizard when holding it. Dust isn't too bad if you're not a dirtbag.
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thulsey said:
I immediately went out and bought a gel skin made for the Prophet. Adds nothing to the weight/size/form-factor of the device.
Of course, these are in cell phone shops all over Asia, don't know about other countries.
I've found many people on the street using these skins instead of cases just because of the form-factor element. It's a shame to ruin such portability and, dare I say, elegance, to protect it.
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That is the reason why I really think that a protecting case is necessary (in case the device falls that is) - specially for a $600 device.
On the flip side, adding unnecessary bulk to a device which was purchased due to its slim form factor is kind of contradicting. Thus, I am searching for a very slim case, which still provides protection.
thulsey, which silicon case are you using? Have you heard of Skintight cases from Pamwarelabs http://www.palmwarelabs.com/Products/ProdList.aspx?CateID=36 ?
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The one I'm using is very similar to the one from Palmwarelabs. It even has raised icons on each of the buttons so you can (sort of) feel what you're pressing. I think it's a local brand here in Taiwan, but I'll look into it and see if I can find it on the web.
When I was searching, I noticed that there are several different thicknesses of silicone, and various levels of craftsmanship that go into cutting things out (like the screen area, infrared port, etc.)
Get the flexskin from www.boxwave.com!!
You won't be dissapointed!
Hey...
Aluminium cases anyone???
vsc said:
You might find the following case suitable. I believe it adds the least volume to the unit given that it is conformal and very thin. (There might be something better, but I'm not aware of it.)
http://www.ebcases.com/Detail.bok?no=3331
There is also the possibility to customize the case as well for a fee. Thus one can ask the supplier to minimize thickness rather than providing the maximal protection to the unit.
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hey vsc, I talked to EBCases today and they said that the case for the Jam wont fit the Jamin due to different button arrangements.
According to EBCases' customer service agent (very friendly and helpful!), they are working on a new case right now, which will then fit the Jamin. The new case would probably take another 4 weeks in order to be released.
I might just wait for this new case, since their case really is the best I have seen so far (and I have looked at a lot of them).
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20100823006066/en
Corning Supplies Gorilla® Glass for Samsung Galaxy S Premium Smartphone
Evolution of Smartphones Led by Cutting-edge Display Technologies
SEOUL, South Korea--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Corning Incorporated (NYSE: GLW), a world leader in specialty glass and ceramics, announced today that Corning® Gorilla® glass has been designed into the Samsung Electronics Galaxy S, a newly released premium smartphone.
“Advanced display technology plays a crucial role in meeting consumers’ growing expectations on high-end mobile devices, especially smartphones. Corning’s Gorilla glass has helped maximize Galaxy S’s unique smartphone features by enabling a high-quality touch display.”
The Samsung Galaxy S features a four-inch super AMOLED display, while weighing roughly 119 grams in a slim, highly durable design. The enhanced super AMOLED display is enabled in part by using Corning Gorilla glass as the protective cover. Gorilla glass is an environmentally friendly alkali-aluminosilicate thin sheet glass that is both scratch resistant and durable.
BJ Kang, senior manager of Samsung Electronics said, “Advanced display technology plays a crucial role in meeting consumers’ growing expectations on high-end mobile devices, especially smartphones. Corning’s Gorilla glass has helped maximize Galaxy S’s unique smartphone features by enabling a high-quality touch display.”
Haeng Hee Lee, president of Corning Korea Company Ltd added, “Device makers are challenged with designing stylish yet durable products. The Galaxy S is a fine example of a premium device created through the combination of Corning’s specialty glass and Samsung’s mobile display technologies. Corning’s Gorilla glass enables device makers to introduce durable display products with innovative designs.”
More than 20 major makers of PC and handheld devices have already recognized the benefits of Gorilla glass by designing it into more than 225 devices, and more than 55 models will be released over the next six months.
Forward-Looking and Cautionary Statements
This press release contains “forward-looking statements” (within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995), which are based on current expectations and assumptions about Corning’s financial results and business operations, that involve substantial risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. These risks and uncertainties include: the effect of global political, economic and business conditions; conditions in the financial and credit markets; currency fluctuations; tax rates; product demand and industry capacity; competition; reliance on a concentrated customer base; manufacturing efficiencies; cost reductions; availability of critical components and materials; new product commercialization; pricing fluctuations and changes in the mix of sales between premium and non-premium products; new plant start-up or restructuring costs; possible disruption in commercial activities due to terrorist activity, armed conflict, political or financial instability, natural disasters, adverse weather conditions, or major health concerns; adequacy of insurance; equity company activities; acquisition and divestiture activities; the level of excess or obsolete inventory; the rate of technology change; the ability to enforce patents; product and components performance issues; retention of key personnel; stock price fluctuations; and adverse litigation or regulatory developments. These and other risk factors are detailed in Corning’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Forward-looking statements speak only as of the day that they are made, and Corning undertakes no obligation to update them in light of new information or future events.
About Corning Incorporated
Corning Incorporated (www.corning.com) is the world leader in specialty glass and ceramics. Drawing on more than 150 years of materials science and process engineering knowledge, Corning creates and makes keystone components that enable high-technology systems for consumer electronics, mobile emissions control, telecommunications and life sciences. Our products include glass substrates for LCD televisions, computer monitors and laptops; ceramic substrates and filters for mobile emission control systems; optical fiber, cable, hardware & equipment for telecommunications networks; optical biosensors for drug discovery; and other advanced optics and specialty glass solutions for a number of industries including semiconductor, aerospace, defense, astronomy and metrology.
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ConceptVBS said:
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Great story, but I've seen scratch tests that seem to indicate otherwise. Also, I'm surprised that they didn't announce this earlier. I lean 80% towards this being true, but not everything is adding up to me.
alovell83 said:
Great story, but I've seen scratch tests that seem to indicate otherwise. Also, I'm surprised that they didn't announce this earlier. I lean 80% towards this being true, but not everything is adding up to me.
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Its a official press release so its true.... And even diamond can be scratched
Well, I was judging these relatively versus what I've seen from GG. Again, I'm just saying that not everything adding up. Keep in mind, there are maybe 6+ models and variations, perhaps we shouldn't look further into this than it being only the I9000 without further information. After all, the US carriers did gimp phones to save themselves some money whether on the front-end (storage) or back-end (tethering/ff camera).
Also, this could've been adopted late in the development cycle so the test I watched could've been using a previously spec'd screen (I think this is the least likely). It's not like Corning or a manufacturer to announce this late. They announced this on the Streak nearly a year before it hit the US, and at least 6 months before it hit EU. This is typically a big step up for a manufacturer and a good way for Corning to get themselves recognized and desired by consumers, meaning it's good marketing for them as well. No one loves GG more than the Engadgets & GSM Arena (leap of faith there), so at least getting bonus points from them when one of the "knocks" on the Galaxy S is the industrial design. Gorilla Glass plus plastic means the screen is as strong as can be and the casing can be replaced in case the phone took a brutal fall.
So, am I saying that this is false, no, I believe the story, I just take it with a grain of salt saying that unless they confirm it on the entire family line there might be something else hidden in the details (that's where they say the devil is, )...I'm probably just looking too far into this though. ...I'm just saying is all...
Still doesn't excuse Samsung for the poor design on the international version. By that I mean having the glass go all the way down and having it cut out for the home button making it a very weak point for cracking.
All reports I've read about SGS being cracked have been down there. Same happened to mine and the shock it got was so minor I didn't even realize or think the screen would get damaged. So those with that version of the SGS be careful.
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Schmich said:
Still doesn't excuse Samsung for the poor design on the international version. By that I mean having the glass go all the way down and having it cut out for the home button making it a very weak point for cracking.
All reports I've read about SGS being cracked have been down there. Same happened to mine and the shock it got was so minor I didn't even realize or think the screen would get damaged. So those with that version of the SGS be careful.
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There are plenty of people whose glass hasn't cracked. Remember, Samsung have sold millions of these phones, and given enough people in a forum, many people will have the same problem. I don't think this is an inexcusable mistake, or poor design. There is a border protecting the glass (which seems to be made of metal), and it's tough glass.
It isn't designed as a rugged phone, and how common is this issue?
Just watch this video and see how fragile this device is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xASJobjD68
If you drop it during a conversation, say bye bye to this "gorilla glass".
Fatherboard said:
Just watch this video and see how fragile this device is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xASJobjD68
If you drop it during a conversation, say bye bye to this "gorilla glass".
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Are u kidding? Fragile? Looks like u didnt see the whole video.
no, it looks like you haven't...
Fatherboard said:
Just watch this video and see how fragile this device is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xASJobjD68
If you drop it during a conversation, say bye bye to this "gorilla glass".
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This isn't even worth debating. http://gizmodo.com/5571658/first-iphone-4-broken-after-one+foot-drop
You'd have to be an idiot to buy any smart phone if you are concerned about dropping it. The main benefit of Gorilla glass isn't protection (although, clearly it needs to handle everyday life), but to offer protection against scratches.. You wont have any problems if you don't drop it..
This has the tendency to happen. you guys are idiots if you think you bought a bulletproof device.
Haven't you ever dropped a cellphone during a conversation?... that's odd. I might have to replace my palms, then.
Err i think you might be the idiot mate, first you say its fragile and supply a link showing that the glass is actually quite strong (for a mobile) and then you say its no different to any other phone.
I work on a building site and i have no fears of damaging my screen although you would have to be a bit of a moron to have a phone like this and not put protection
it anyway
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omg, no wonder you're working at a building site.
Fatherboard said:
This has the tendency to happen. you guys are idiots if you think you bought a bulletproof device.
Haven't you ever dropped a cellphone during a conversation?... that's odd. I might have to replace my palms, then.
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Disregard my comment, I misinterpreted your statement. Yes, I do agree it isn't unbreakable. The purpose of gorilla glass is mainly to withstand basic knocks, and scratches, not to be immune against scratches. It isn't designed to withstand drops.
Gorilla glass or not, I already have 2 little scratches..
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Gorilla glass or not, I already have 2 little scratches..
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I got 0 But it say's nothing, maybe if it was normal glass you would have 10 scratches, no one knows!
newsflash: Glass tends to scratch/break when recieving shock.
Doesn't matter in what device, if you drop it from ear-hight, it will crack. At least a bit.
I have to say i'm impressed such a hard glass plain didn't shatter even when falling from waist hight.
What about the glass that is covering the camera on the back? Any info about that? I put silicone on my SGS and still after some time I can see little tiny scraches on the glass cover.
It is quite funny in the beginning how the Iphone fan boy use to boast on the quality of Iphone that Iphone glasses are gorilla glass and samsung is not glass but plastics.
Now as more information are becoming available how the table have turned. I guess that will shut iphone fan boys up for a while.
What doesn't make sense is that why it takes so long for them to make the announcement when clearly, it could have boosted the sales.
Yea ill leave my zagg screen protector on ... knowing my luck the day i take the screen protector off. The bus or train im in will get into an accident and my phone will magically fly out of my pocket and land face first on a a screw on the ground.
Here's something to think about. The One's casing is indeed 100% aluminum. In every previous attempt by a manufacturer to use an all-aluminum housing the result was disastrous for wireless reception. That includes antenna-gate on the Sensation which only had a partial aluminum body. Looking at the casing HTC's either going to try to get a signal through it or the antennas will have to be forward facing to get through the glass front panel. Neither is a recipe for great and/or consistent wireless reception. It'll be interesting to see how the One does once it's tested by sites like GSMArena and Anandtech.
First of all..I still don't get the "all aluminium construction" as from some pictures the sides are clearly NOT metal but plastic.
Other than that:
His focus on the all-metal attributes is a direct shot at the iPhone 5, which similarly uses aluminum but has a top and bottom row on the back that's constructed of glass, enabling the antenna inside to broadcast and receive signals. The HTC One, however, worked around that by building the antenna into the metal back of the phone, allowing for a more seamless looking device.
While the back of the phone is part of the antenna, Croyle doesn't foresee any reception issues like the iPhone 4, which used the metal frame around the phone as its antenna, causing some signal issues when held the wrong way. Croyle promised there wouldn't be an "antennagate" with the One.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ke-good-first-impression-with-all-metal-body/
Its mentioned a hundred times on this forum how the antenna is integrated into this phone. The back has strips for it... look at the pictures...
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Eggcake said:
First of all..I still don't get the "all aluminium construction" as from some pictures the sides are clearly NOT metal but plastic.
Other than that:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ke-good-first-impression-with-all-metal-body/
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HTC says that the white strips on the sides are in fact metal.
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First of all..I still don't get the "all aluminium construction" as from some pictures the sides are clearly NOT metal but plastic.
Other than that:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ke-good-first-impression-with-all-metal-body/
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It's no plastic @ the side its all metal....its just metal in a different colour...if u take out all components u are left full metal case so I don't see where the plastic is from
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the sides are clearly NOT metal but plastic.
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Guess again.
HTC also makes a big deal about the One's all-aluminum chassis, describing it as using a zero-gap unibody design. Indeed, available in hues of black and silver, the handset feels sturdy, has reassuring heft, and its smooth metallic skin exudes high-end craftsmanship. HTC also took pains to point out that while the thin white trim encircling the silver model I manhandled appears to be plastic, it is in fact metal.
The iPhone 5 needed a lot of glass and the iPad needs the plastic Apple logo for the WiFi and those black plastic strips for the 3g versions. The HTC fans better hope that they need less plastic than Apple or they will have an Asus Transformer prime fiasco here.
The fans better hope that HTC has thoroughly tested this thing from a basement, between two skyscrapers, to a boat, to the top of the mountain, in car, on a helicopter etc. Judging from HTC craftsmanship from the past though, especially button ergonomics, good luck HTC fans.
Oh alright, that's news for me. Very good news in fact
guess they learned what to fix after the fiasco on the one x
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The HTC fans better hope that they need less plastic than Apple or they will have an Asus Transformer prime fiasco here.
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That's exactly what I thought of when it was announced the One's housing was all-aluminum. Here's what Anand said about the Prime's signal issues which Asus corrected in the Infinity by adding a plastic strip along the back where the antennas are. Wi-Fi limped along on the Prime but GPS was so FUBAR because of the all metal-back Asus ended up giving owners a detachable external dongle in order to use GPS at all.
There is no RF window on the back of the Prime where the two antennas are located. Aluminum does a fairly good job of attenuating RF signals, which contributes to worse range on WiFi than the original plastic Eee Pad Transformer. WiFi performance at the edge of reception as well as the maximum usable WiFi range are both noticeably lower than its predecessor.
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guess they learned what to fix after the fiasco on the one x
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The One X Wi-Fi issue was caused by connectors not meeting properly during the production process. HTC can't defy the laws of physics which say metal and wireless signals aren't compatible. In the Prime scenario Tomatoes8 mentioned Asus added a second antenna and used diversity as a means of getting a signal through the metal back cover. They also amped the signal up to the point it interfered with BT which uses the same 2.4GHz frequency. The challenge is even greater using metal on a phone because there's less physical space to work with in terms of antenna size, placement, and interference with other components.
For HTC and fans of their devices sake I hope this isn't an issue. But if they succeed in using an all-metal housing and still maintain competitive wireless performance they'll be the first to do so where there’s a history of others failing.
Just another quote/info from Anandtech:
Plastic is injected into the aluminum block after certain cuts are made for the back case, which then gets machined into the final form. The One uses the top and bottom aluminum strips for antennas, both of which are actively tuned to mitigate unintended attenuation from being held. There’s a plastic insulative strip in-between the two antennas and the main body. In spite of being aluminum, the One also includes NFC, whose active area surrounds the camera region. There’s no wireless charging from Qi or WPC, however.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6754/hands-on-with-the-htc-one-formerly-m7
But yeah, let's hope they really tested it...it would be a fiasco otherwise.
maybe u can use the garanty?
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Great info. But one has to wonder with an R&D budget larger than HTC's capitalization why Apple wouldn't have figured the same thing out and avoided the issues they faced when they took the Apple logo off the back of the iPad and moved the antenna under the perforated speaker grate and had to use a plastic trim strip over the antenna on the 3G/GPS version. The only real pass/fail test will be when there are One's in people's hands for a couple of months. It took almost three months (launched in March, issue identified in June) for users to figure out the commonality in the One X's wireless issue. Kudos to HTC if they've figured out how to design a metal device with decent wireless performance where others haven't been able to.
I was once interested in the Galaxy S4 Active, but four important things have kept me away from it altogether:
I just got the S4 in April, so I'd need to sell it to buy a new Active (and there would be a price difference of course).
The S4A is only waterproof to 3ft or so (some reports of less than that). And for only 30min at that.
Probably most importantly: I hear there's no liquid coverage in the warranty still, even though it's designed to be submerged!
8MP camera? What gives? One of the biggest bragging rights of the S4 is the 13MP camera.
That being said, I want to waterproof my S4, so that I can completely submerge it. I mean, like bottom-of-the-14ft-pool submerge, while still taking pictures, even. I'd consider hacking the S4A camera app onto the S4 just for the Aqua mode it has (and maybe try to hack in the 13MP capability too?).
Key thing, though: I don't normally use a case on my phone. I like the slimness of my naked phone.
So, I've seen different nano-coatings (liquipel for example - or even the NeverWet spray). Most of them coat the outside of the phone, and don't offer submersion as an option. They're designed for "accidental spills only". Here's what I want from a nano-coating:
Submersible to say, 15ft. Maybe 10ft would be acceptable.
No time limit.
I'm willing to completely disassemble my phone to coat the motherboard, inside and out, if needed.
Some form of guarantee against water damage would be nice. I swear that I saw one company that offered this, but I can't seem to find it now.
I'm curious how this stuff would work with heat dissipation on the motherboard components. Also, how well would the contacts work after? Examples would be the connections to the motherboard (for the screen, or daughterboard, or cameras...), or even the battery connection? Does nanocoating interfere with these?
Anywho, the point of this thread is to ask the S4 community about different brands of nano-coating/water-proofing options. It might be impossible to get exactly what I want, but I'd be curious to see how close I could get.
Thanks for your time.
I highly doubt you will find a nano coating that can meet your needs.
Regarding the neverwet spray, I recently read a review on it and it only lasted roughly 30 minutes in water before the coating began to deteriorate plus it makes the device sticky.
Your best bet would probably be a case even though you specifically asked for a nano coating. LifeProof juat recently released an S3 case and its safe too assume an S4 case is in the works aswell.
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msavic6 said:
I highly doubt you will find a nano coating that can meet your needs.
Regarding the neverwet spray, I recently read a review on it and it only lasted roughly 30 minutes in water before the coating began to deteriorate plus it makes the device sticky.
Your best bet would probably be a case even though you specifically asked for a nano coating. LifeProof juat recently released an S3 case and its safe too assume an S4 case is in the works aswell.
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Yeah, that's what I'm gathering. Thank you for the feedback. I did find that it was Liquipel that offers the guarantee against water damage, but only with accidental exposure only (explicitly prohibits intentional submersion). I happen to be travelling over in the L.A. area soon (near their HQ), so I've asked them two questions this weekend, without response:
If I were to bring in my device to have it treated, would they allow me to physically disassemble the device and let them place the individual components into the chamber?
If I were to invest in a nice waterproof case, and for some reason the case failed to protect the device, would the Liquipel guarantee protect the device at this point?
I'm thinking that a lot of these nano-coatings will give-out after 30 minutes of continuous water exposure. That's why I'm thinking of a really good waterproof case for intentional diving with the phone, and then the liquipel for all the accidental stuff (as intended). It'd be nice to go to a theme park and ride the water-rides without risking anything.
Eventually when LifeProof releases their Galaxy S4 case which shouldn't be that bulky in comparison too other waterproof cases you could buy the case and apply the Liquipel coating. This way you have a 2 step barrier for any water damage, if the case gives way too water, the liquipel should protect it and any damage should be covered by their warranty.
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Eventually when LifeProof releases their Galaxy S4 case which shouldn't be that bulky in comparison too other waterproof cases you could buy the case and apply the Liquipel coating. This way you have a 2 step barrier for any water damage, if the case gives way too water, the liquipel should protect it and any damage should be covered by their warranty.
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I called Liquipel today, because apparently the monkeys behind their keyboards don't respond to emails.
- They will allow me to disassemble the device, have it coated by them, and then I would have to re-assemble it myself. No problem.
- They recently had another customer with a LifeProof case file a claim. The LifeProof case leaked on his iPhone (dunno which model) without the customer knowing, and the water sat for a long time. The corrosion/etc. that resulted was too great, and Liquipel would not cover the device. The customer had to buy a new device, which Liquipel subsequently treated the new device for free.
But yeah, if LifeProof created a case for S3, there's little doubt they would not create one for the S4. The only fallback would be if the S3 case didn't sell well - at which point they might re-think creating a case for the S4.
Hello all,
I am interested in the Turbo 2 but have heard and seen videos of the top most plastic layer (featuring that lovely Verizon logo...) scratching quite easily.
So, here's my question to those that own in - is it feasible to remove that ugly Verizon top layer and put one of the new-age glass screen protectors in place of it? I'd like to have that nice glass feel, and if I ever DO drop it hard and it shatters, merely pay $10-15 for a new glass protector.
Best,
James
(yes, I know adding glass is a bit ironic)
Yes you can remove the outer layer and place a glass one on. The thing is finding one that's a good fit. Verizon sells a flexible glass one and or a pk of three regular soft screen protector on their site. I recommend using theirs because its cut perfect. And they don't come with that logo. Here's what I did, I bought both took off the outer layer put on a soft screen protector and then the glass. Looks and feels better to me. You can find cheaper but they won't be cut right or fit as well.
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Ah, I see. I'll look into the glass Verizon screen, thanks.
And if your screen breaks I don't think Moto will replace because you took off the shattershield. I used the Verizon flexible glass protector on the shattershield shield and feel fine to me.
Per Moto they will not warranty the screen if you run it without the top lens.
I have also seem some comments about the adhesive being different than a standard protector. I do not know if that is concern about damage or just the protector being able to adhere.
I also run the Verizon flexible on top of the lens and cannot tell it is there.
All I did was buy a couple cheap screen protectors and threw one on.
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All I did was buy a couple cheap screen protectors and threw one on.
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I love the Verizon-sold glass protector and it really is virtually invisible on top of the full shatter-shield stack without having to remove the outer layer first. My concern with removing the top layer to put the glass on would be two-fold: 1) potentially having to argue about warranty if they decide that the glass layer wasn't a sufficient cover with the top shatter-shield layer missing, and 2) if you DO drop the phone and glass layer breaks, without the top shatter-shield layer under it, I imagine the plastic underneath will scratch -- and THAT part is NOT replaceable.
For my money, the Verizon glass layer on top of the full shatter-shield stack is a great solution.
I just removed it and maybe my phone is not shatterproof anymore, but I don't pretend to drop my phone to test this feature. Also, it will be always with a case.
I say we shouldn't modify the exterior appearance of the phone because we are not electronic and design engineers. If anyone thinks that are smarter than phone engineers then try and make a smartphone then talk
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I say we shouldn't modify the exterior appearance of the phone because we are not electronic and design engineers. If anyone thinks that are smarter than phone engineers then try and make a smartphone then talk
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I had to smile when reading this -- on an XDA Developers forum, considering that this is the home of many thousands of phone enthusiasts who gather regularly to figure out how to how to unlock, root and modify phone firmware and software that was developed by phone software engineers, embedded code specialists, OS specialists, UI specialists, etc. This is the first place I would turn to when looking for people interested in modding their phones. Not mocking, by the way, but just observing that the audience here is more likely to think about modding their phones than pretty much any other audience you will find online.
That said -- caution, and reasoned modding is smart, and ignoring elements of a mechanical engineering design without understanding the rationale behind it is a crapshoot at best. For people willing to gamble, so be it -- but they should understand the risk. For others -- we have enough folks who understand warranty legalese and basic mechanical construction concepts to be able to make at least a somewhat informed assessment. As in any of the custom ROM threads, the basic premise is: you really need to understand what you're doing before you mess with it, or be willing to accept the consequences of your actions without complaining.
Jon