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Case Round-Up

I decided to round up all of the cases for the HTC Universal for reference:
Piel Frama (1 case... also available on Expansys as the "Chairmans Case")
- http://www.pielframa.com/imate_jasjar.htm
PDair (2 cases, both with belt clips)
- http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/7749.htm
- http://www.pdair.com/scripts/main/viewitem.php?itemid=1998&pdaid=190
XaX (2 cases)
- http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=125516
- http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=125869
- Nutshell
http://www.tuff-as-nuts.com/209-210.html#
I have ordered the XaX cases with the intention of sending one back... I will post a full analysis with lots of pics.... it's sad that there are not a lot of pics around of these two !

BTW, here's a nice review of the Proporta case...
http://www.clieuk.co.uk/execbookcase.htm

Thanks for the summary - very useful indeed. I'm looking for something like the Piel Frama or Xax (2) case but the keyboard must NOT be covered - which I believe it is with both of these, although it is hard to tell from the photos.

I have found another case by Krusell which looks quite good:
http://www.krusell.se/product.php?s=2&product=2095
Sold here:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=127398&asource=119353
Anyone got one?

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Should this be in accessories ?
Sorry...

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Wow... the Krusell one looks pretty good !
Hole for ear... belt clip... window for screen... Hmmmmm.... !
The only thing its missing is elastic stretchy sides to block the SD card from falling out while still being able to open the case.

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i like the krussel or the xax #1.
am interested in feedback on the xax, as I really just want something simple to make the carrying of it easier. if I need it, i just want to take it out of the case entirely, then when finished put it back. most cases are designed to keep it inside the case. i think the clam design prevents the need for a protective permanent case, so something to make it easier to carry it would be handy.
But yes, the krussel looks good if I felt it needed protection...
So any feedback on the Xax 1 would be good, and if any body does by the krussel, let us know.

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...any feedback on the Xax 1 would be good...
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I've had the XAX 1 for about a week now and it's just what I was looking for. Like you, Simon, I was also interested in just something to carry the Universal as I prefer to take it out completely to use it. The XAX 1 certainly does the job.
The magnetic closures make it very easy to take it out of the case and put it away. The fit is not too tight to make it difficult to remove and replace but tight enough to feel secure. It's not going anywhere. And it may seem a small thing, but I also like that the magnets make the removal and replacement of the Universal into a silent operation without zipping or velcro or snaps to announce what you're doing. It's not a big deal, but it was a nice little bonus.
The concern I had with this case was the belt clip since it is an actual clip and not anything that locks in place. My previous "belt" cases with other PDAs had the locking type clips. This one just hooks on to the belt, but it feels very secure. There seems to be no question of it slipping off of a belt and I've even used it just hooked on to jeans (without them falling down, despite the Universal's weight!) when not wearing a belt. I can see where there is more of a chance that it could come unhooked when just on jeans like that, but I haven't had that happen yet.
One advantage to the locking clips was the ability to allow the case to swivel which this one does not have. After using it though, I like the horizontal orientation and now prefer that it doesn't swivel actually. I don't have to take the case off or swivel it around every time I sit down.
I'm planning to eventually get the PDAir (most likely) for times when I want the Universal protected even while in use, but I would only use that in certain environments where I was worried that it might get damaged if taken out completely. Most of the time I plan to use the Xax.

I am not sure I get how the Xax 1 works.
Is it like a holtster, where you just slide the JasJar in?
What is the magnetic closure for, is that a tab that closes over the top opening?
How are the sides protected?
Care to post some pictures?

I'm at work, so I can't post any pictures right now (they probably wouldn't be all that happy that I was positng in the first place, but hey, it's lunch!)
It is like a holster and the JJ just slides in. As you suspected there is a leather tab that goes over the top to help protect and hold it in (though the fit is tight enough that I don't think holding the JJ in is really all that necessary.) It doesn't go completely across the top, but leaves room on one end so that you can use the headphone jack while it's in the case (as long as you put the JJ in it with the camera facing out.) Beyond that, the top is protected. There is leather on both sides, so they are protected as well. On the bottom, there's a large cut out in the middle that allows you to push up on the JJ to take it out more easily as well as two other small cut outs for the speakers.
I'll try to see if I can get some pics together later tonight.

Hi everyone,
I got the XaX #2 case today (the magnetic snap one, NOT the belt clip) and well... it's not that great.
First of all, the Jasjar won't fully close when it's inside... the leather strip that holds down the keyboard gets in the way of the screen. I've tried a bunch of different positions, and no dice.
Also, the camera hole is uncovered, but the earpiece is not so you can't use the phone when the case is closed.
The magnetic snap is nice and strong though, and the leather is of good quality.
However, in terms of functionality, it's not that great. I'll post pics later.

ikaris said:
...the Jasjar won't fully close when it's inside...
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So I guess XaX may have a hit and a miss with their two cases. Thanks for passing that along because I think that is a concern.
I've wondered if the Piel Frama case will have the same "closing" issue. In some of the pictures on their website it looked like the JJ may not have been all the way closed. I had one of their cases for a Dell Axim 5 and it was of very high quality but the "closing" question concerns me.
I'd love to hear from anyone who gets a Piel Frama.

Same here. I am interested in the Piel Frama case or the Krusell. Both look pretty nice and seem to have the proper cut outs for all buttons and such. Just wondering which one seems to fit the device better.

I am currently using the case that came with the iPaq 5500 series. This fits the XDA Exec perfectly and is ideal if you want to use the case for storing the Exec and taking it out of the case for use.
Simon

kelford said:
So I guess XaX may have a hit and a miss with their two cases. Thanks for passing that along because I think that is a concern.
I've wondered if the Piel Frama case will have the same "closing" issue. In some of the pictures on their website it looked like the JJ may not have been all the way closed. I had one of their cases for a Dell Axim 5 and it was of very high quality but the "closing" question concerns me.
I'd love to hear from anyone who gets a Piel Frama.
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I have received my Pielframa case a couple of days ago. The Pielframa does not have a closing issue. Also it fits perfectly. Besides that it does not use a plastic 'pouch'. That is terrible. I owned a Qtek 9090 which the case also had a plastic 'pouch' to cover the keyboard. It is a dust collector. My keyboard got very dirty and I could not get the stain away. Luckily Pielframa did not use this design.

simba said:
I have received my Pielframa case a couple of days ago. The Pielframa does not have a closing issue. Also it fits perfectly. Besides that it does not use a plastic 'pouch'. That is terrible. I owned a Qtek 9090 which the case also had a plastic 'pouch' to cover the keyboard. It is a dust collector. My keyboard got very dirty and I could not get the stain away. Luckily Pielframa did not use this design.
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Just want to confirm 100% before ordering the Pielframa case - you are saying that the keyboard is NOT covered by any plastic? It isn't clear from the photo. Thanks.

simba said:
I have received my Pielframa case a couple of days ago. The Pielframa does not have a closing issue. Also it fits perfectly. Besides that it does not use a plastic 'pouch'. That is terrible. I owned a Qtek 9090 which the case also had a plastic 'pouch' to cover the keyboard. It is a dust collector. My keyboard got very dirty and I could not get the stain away. Luckily Pielframa did not use this design.
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Thanks for giving an update! That's good news that the Piel Frama doesn't have the closing issues that was found with the XaX 2 case. I know how well PF cases are made, so I may have to get one of these (or at least put it on a gift wish list!) since I find I like to use different cases depending on circumstances.
How does it feel in terms of added bulk? It seems designed to be on the device most if not all of the time, so I wondered how it really feels when used every day?

Take a look at this one: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/7866.htm
seems reasonalbly priced
One thing though..........
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first pic you see is the belt clip side
click the next pic and where you would expect to see the closing flap thingy, you see a plain flat side!?!?
Am I missing something?

Codiac said:
Am I missing something?
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I don't understand that either. Where did the flap go?
I'm supposed to be getting pictures together (having regular PC issues at home) so I can show the XaX 1 in use, but the general construction looks similar to the one in the link, but the XaX has a bigger flap. And it doesn't hide anywhere either!

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Just want to confirm 100% before ordering the Pielframa case - you are saying that the keyboard is NOT covered by any plastic? It isn't clear from the photo. Thanks.
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Yes, it is not covered by any plastic.
The case does make it feel more 'bulky'. In the daily usage you could leave the it in case without the need of taking it out. I can answer the phone by not having to open the case. Of course you do need to open it to be able to make a phone call.

Another case thread...Slimmest Kaiser Case?

Well there seems to be a lot of views about the best cases out there, just wondered what the most 'pocket friendly' case was?
Don't care about the material as long as it isn't a sock or a stick-on option (ie an actual case)
Definitely no belt loop, preferably a very low profile clasp etc...
Basically just want something that is likely to stop it getting scratched up in a bag or if it was dropped, but don't need full armour!
Any good suggestions?

I've been looking for something pocket friendly as well... I'm almost ready to just get a thin sunglass pouch... currently I'm using a case for a Sprint Mogul, but it has a belt clip...

i use an ipod slip case, and have pulled off the belt clip, gives good protection to the screen,
going to order a leater slip case from www.pdair.com to see what thats like

I've got one of these - http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000164&products_id=6561
Doesn't add much to the size at all, and I keep mine in my pocket all the time.

Here is what I'm using, it comes in Black, Brown or Pink:
http://www.wirelessground.com/tiltflipblack.html
It covers the back and front very well, the cut outs are aligned very well, it has a slimmer form factor than the Krussel Orbit I normally use.
Here is the one my spouse uses, it comes in Black or White:
http://www.boxwave.com/products/dlsleeve/at_t-tilt-designio-leather-sleeve_2906.htm

I just ordered one of these yesterday. I will let you know how it is hopefully tomarrow or over the weekend.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smoke-Protector...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

SpeedRazr said:
I just ordered one of these yesterday. I will let you know how it is hopefully tomarrow or over the weekend.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smoke-Protector...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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i would be interested in your opinions and if you could confirm these points for me:
1) Can you still use the touch screen?
2) If the slide up and tilt works fine with the case on
3) The general quality and how bulky it is in a pocket
this looks perfect for me as i wanted a 2 piece armour case where i could still slide open the phone

scharnet said:
Here is what I'm using, it comes in Black, Brown or Pink:
http://www.wirelessground.com/tiltflipblack.html
It covers the back and front very well, the cut outs are aligned very well, it has a slimmer form factor than the Krussel Orbit I normally use.
Here is the one my spouse uses, it comes in Black or White:
http://www.boxwave.com/products/dlsleeve/at_t-tilt-designio-leather-sleeve_2906.htm
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The "tiltflipblack" is made by PDair and is available for 1/2 that price. I've had one for several weeks and it still looks new, and I wear it every day. It's the perfect case for me.

The slimest most "pocketable" case I've found yet, is the formfitting Noreve case as seen here:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/archive/00006945.htm
It is also one of the very few - true - formfitting cases (using a laminated leather design, w/o the ugly and disturbing plasting cover over the KB. It protects the front and back really well, if not so much the sides. Easy to use and good workmanship.
Actually it IS meant (IMO) for pocket carrying.
Have it for about a month, still looks as new. If however looking for a drawback, then to my daily use pattern there is one. While in the case using the Kaiser/Tilt for navigation (in a cradle) needs taking it out of the case.
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I've tried several ...
Tothotspur said:
i would be interested in your opinions and if you could confirm these points for me:
1) Can you still use the touch screen?
2) If the slide up and tilt works fine with the case on
3) The general quality and how bulky it is in a pocket
this looks perfect for me as i wanted a 2 piece armour case where i could still slide open the phone
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Just wanted to add my comments based on owning 4 different cases for the Tilt/Kaiser ...
The PDAir aluminum cased is good and pocketable. It is a little on the heavy side, but I've carried it arond now for a couple of weeks and it's all right. The downside is that there is a hard plastic protector over the touchscreen of the Tilt. You have to open the case to use the touchscreen or you have to take the hard plastic out. You can either cut out or push it out with some force, but the plastic is glued in and is under the neoprene that cushions the Tilt against the case. Not the smallest feel in the pocket, but no leather covered cardboard bulk feel. The size of this reminds me of a naked 8125 in my pocket (did that without disaster for almost 2 years).
I also tried the PDAir leather flip case. That one is definitely not pocketable unless you have some REALLY big pockets. And I'm not a big flip cover guy. Another strike is the plastic keyboard cover.
I also tried the Noreve and it's a nice leather case. I would consider this one pocketable, it's rather slim. But it has the flip cover. The good thing is that it has no plastic keyboard cover. It's a little loose when you close the cover with the snap. It's not loosely held in ... that's a good fit. But the snap doesn't hold the flip cover down as firmly as I'd like.
Lastly, I JUST snapped on one of the plastic snap-on kind. Good fit, but not sure how much the plastic will help in a fall. It snapped on tightly ... so tightly it took 15 minutes to get it off! I did not like that at all. If something goes wrong and you need to drop the battery quickly ... 'quickly' won't happen with this case. You can still use the touchscreen and it's a very tight snap on fit. Doesn't add much bulk or weight for pocket storage. NOTE: if you pick one of these up, be careful and check whether the belt clip button on the case is screw on or permanent. The permanent ones won't be pocketable.
The best feel in the pocket is the plane Tilt/Kaiser with no case. But I know I'm pushing my luck if I continue to do that. Still switching up to see what I end up liking most. Hope this info helps folks.

Tothotspur said:
i would be interested in your opinions and if you could confirm these points for me:
1) Can you still use the touch screen?
YES!
The openings for the keypad and LCD are tappered to provide the best access to the edges but they become alittle harder to get at due to the thickness of the plastic.
2) If the slide up and tilt works fine with the case on
Yes the screen slides out and up to the normal position. The upper softkeys are silightly harder to get at when tilted due to the tickness of the plastic.
3) The general quality and how bulky it is in a pocket
Fit was tight, and snapped into place. I do not plan to use the clip as it is optional, but I will follow up with a proper review and test it out. I will get exact mesuraments later but it is not a big change and well worth the extra size.
this looks perfect for me as i wanted a 2 piece armour case where i could still slide open the phone
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Yup! Cheap Too!
I will follow up with a better review tonight.

What I do not understand about using the transparent plastic snap, is why the hack would one need a case at all when all the really "pocket sensitive" components (Touch screen, Camera lens) are not covered at all... IMO if one is indiferent to this, they may not need a case at all.
I guess that all cases are kind of trade offs. Whatever protects adds bulk in the zones protected, light protection protects less than heavy armor but presents snappier use and so on.
The potentially best solution I've seen yet is actually not offered for the Tilt/Kaiser. It is made by EB Cases and called the eNovo. It is made of sturdy yet thin laminated leather, offering a form fitting case with an optional leather flip.
http://www.ebcases.com/-strse-3333/eNOVO-PAQ-6500/Detail.bok
I'm trying for some time to convince EB, Noreve and BoxWave (the ones apparently having the technology) to think about it...
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thanks kahibbi and SpeedRazr for your input, i look forward to your review

SpeedRazr said:
I just ordered one of these yesterday. I will let you know how it is hopefully tomarrow or over the weekend.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smoke-Protector...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I picked this up from DayDeal.com and it didnt' fit my ATT tilt. the back does but the front will not stay on
i picked up the alum. case for travel and biking it is perfect. also from DayDeal

Seidio's Innocase Surface Case - Black

I've never had one before, but heard good things about the Seidio case. It's available for order now.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CSR2HTFE-BK
I just ordered the case and clip combo.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD2-HLCSR2HTFE-BK
Might get the Innodock Jr. charger later.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CRJHTCX1-BKC

OlSarge said:
I've never had one before, but heard good things about the Seidio case. It's available for order now.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CSR2HTFE-BK
I just ordered the case and clip combo.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD2-HLCSR2HTFE-BK
Might get the Innodock Jr. charger later.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CRJHTCX1-BKC
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I owned the seidio clip holster for my Kaiser and loved it!! Very sturdy and comfortable. Will definitely be ordering one for my Rafael.

Have the hybrid case for the Kaiser. It still is a top-notch case (once Seidio gets their head out of their ass about their online support).

Just got the Innocase and it's much much better quality than the other Amazon one.
Another truly excellent case after the hybrid Seidio case on the Kaiser.
First 3 pictures are of Innocase
4th is with Amazon's case's top with thick borders around the screen
5th is comparison of these "Touch" screen border thickness.
Macro-mode for those that haven't figured it out in the Youtube videos. Yes, Amazon's case has its rubberization already peeling before I took it out of its shipping packet.

4th is with Amazon's case's top with thick borders around the screen
5th is comparison of these "Touch" screen border thickness.
Very illuminating photos - thank-you!
Was "reasonably certain" that would not find using the Touch Screen with a FINGER all that attractive - after all, have hardly ever used my Axim without the Stylus.
But in actual practice find that it IS often convenient to simply swipe a finger at the screen, and so your comments about the relative Screen Border Thickness - and hence the possibility of interference with finger-contact near the edges of the screen - are very interesting.
Still, $30 seems a lot for small hunk of plastic....

rkistler said:
But in actual practice find that it IS often convenient to simply swipe a finger at the screen, and so your comments about the relative Screen Border Thickness - and hence the possibility of interference with finger-contact near the edges of the screen - are very interesting.
Still, $30 seems a lot for small hunk of plastic....
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As illustrated, the Seidio case is thin (on width) around the screen leaving plenty of space for finger-gestures. Hitting X and menus at bottom is no problem. The Amazon case felt like it was a 8525 again.
There's also velvet in the case back so it doesn't scratch the OEM smooth back. This raises the back a few mm above the original diamond plate, but with the speaker hole, it's all around good protection.
For $30, Seidio tends to be the first and last case you'll ever get because it's a perfect fit, and solid at protection and surviving drops. Only reason to switch to another case is they come out with some other fancy idea such as a hybrid rubber-crystal case + holster, or other colors. I would go for a white case.
I paid $8 (total) for the Amazon case and you can see what I got. Horribly fitting, messes with the slider, rubberization peeling before it came out of the bag. $30 isn't that bad especially since I'm still very happy with the hybrid-case I got for my Kaiser last year.
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whatever case you guys end up getting, I have to say my FUZE is a much more pleasant beast now that the cold, slimy feeling is gone.

the amazon case you purchased is not a good example of the other options out there. I am not saying anything negative about the Seido case. I have seen it personally and it is a nice case, but the one on Ebay that many are buying is also pretty nice, and no issues with the pealing your pictures showed. The employees in my company have 6 Fuze phones and no one has had any issues like that. The biggest illusion with the phone shown at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459761 is that the border is white and not black like the rest of the case.
The $30 cost is the main objection, but in general Seido makes quality cases.
Overall it is very positive that there are multiple options now available and more coming each day.

does this one interfere with teh screen as reported on the other amazon/ebay one? something about the inside of the upper left corner pressing down on the screen makes one unable to use the screen after having the case on for a few days... the only way to resolve this with the other one is to file down the inside of the plastic part that touches the screen...
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shadeone said:
does this one interfere with teh screen as reported on the other amazon/ebay one? something about the inside of the upper left corner pressing down on the screen makes one unable to use the screen after having the case on for a few days... the only way to resolve this with the other one is to file down the inside of the plastic part that touches the screen...
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I'm interested in the answer to this question too. My initial attempt at sanding down my rubberized ebay case was not successful, my phone still locked up after a couple of days.
Fuze innocase owners, are you lockup free after days of operation?

jknuckey said:
I'm interested in the answer to this question too. My initial attempt at sanding down my rubberized ebay case was not successful, my phone still locked up after a couple of days.
Fuze innocase owners, are you lockup free after days of operation?
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on your ebay case, why are you still locking up? mine is not locking up anymore at all after sanding down a little on the inside upper left side?

TVDinner said:
but the one on Ebay that many are buying is also pretty nice, and no issues with the pealing your pictures showed. The employees in my company have 6 Fuze phones and no one has had any issues like that. The biggest illusion with the phone shown at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459761 is that the border is white and not black like the rest of the case.
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Just because you're happy with the work you put into fixing your Ebay case does not mean you should troll other case threads to protect your investment and mind-share about it. Also stating that I'm not a Seidio apologist since I haven't had the greatest shipping experience last time around, and their CS/managers lying back-and-forth about it.
Lock-ups? Are you seriously kidding? That's a red-flag for me right there. Even the Amazon case doesn't have that problem.
The Innocase is a perfect fit with no modifications necessary. That's what paying a slight premium gets you. Costs less than getting the Expansys Touch Pro back too.
It's like paying for the unlocked version of the phone. No crapware, loads of accessories, and special attention to details the cut-rate version doesn't have.
I've noticed the Ebay case has a huge clip tab right next to the volume-up button. The Seidio case clips seem to be more thoughtfully placed, and smaller, thinner. In fact, the bottom case has a cut-out curve around the volume/PTT buttons also that helps the case stay out of the way.

Thank you for you info, and no trolling (that made me laugh) intended. I have the ebay case AND have ordered the Seido case, which we were waiting for. Thanks again.

OlSarge said:
I've never had one before, but heard good things about the Seidio case. It's available for order now.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CSR2HTFE-BK
I just ordered the case and clip combo.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD2-HLCSR2HTFE-BK
Might get the Innodock Jr. charger later.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CRJHTCX1-BKC
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I've had the case, belt clip and charger for a few days. Overall, I'm very happy with the products, and would purchase Seidio equipment again in the future. I've had a few different cases for my old 8525, and I like this one for my Fuze the best.
I love the case. It's not bulky, and has a good feel to it. I wasn't sure about the clips that hold the case to the phone, because they looked fragile...but it holds very nicely.
The belt clip for the case is fine. Seems to hold the phone and case in very well, and the belt clip will not slip off any belt I've tried it on.
The charger...I'm not happy with it. That's my fault not Seidio's, I didn't read the description of the charger. I'm sure it's a quality product. It is a small dock type charger, but comes with a cable with two large USB connections on it. So it can be docked when plugged into a computer's USB. I thought it would have a connection to plug into a wall outlet.

Just bought the combo pack, Will post pics when it arrives.

Just wondering if this case will fit the Bell / CDMA version, is it a rubber type compound, as well does the case scratch the phone in any way?
Thanks

Some questions?
For ppl that have the combo case/holster. Can you put the phone with the case on it, in the holster with screen facing in (screen facing you) and out (screen facing away from you)?
Thanks

TVDinner said:
Thank you for you info, and no trolling (that made me laugh) intended. I have the ebay case AND have ordered the Seido case, which we were waiting for. Thanks again.
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Hey TVDinner, why did you order the Seidio case? Did your filed ebay case start locking up again?
To answer your question to me in my earlier response, I don't know why my ebay case locked up after my filing attempt. Maybe I didn't file it enough? My tolerance level for trial and error is pretty low, so maybe I'll just order the innocase...

jknuckey said:
Hey TVDinner, why did you order the Seidio case? Did your filed ebay case start locking up again?
To answer your question to me in my earlier response, I don't know why my ebay case locked up after my filing attempt. Maybe I didn't file it enough? My tolerance level for trial and error is pretty low, so maybe I'll just order the innocase...
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Hi jknuckey - no my ebay case is working great to be honest. no issues at all after my initial filing on it. But I always need to have "the best" case, lol. I was originally waiting for the Seidio one, but they were taking to long and I ordered the ebay one. then shortly after the Seidio one became available, lol.

datruth said:
For ppl that have the combo case/holster. Can you put the phone with the case on it, in the holster with screen facing in (screen facing you) and out (screen facing away from you)?
Thanks
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There are two models of the holster.
One that fits only just the phone:
https://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HLHTFEAS
"Seidio's stylish holster provides the ultimate in convenience and functionality by securing your Smartphone on all sides.
- Unique Spring-Clip holds your device securely and lifts for quick access
- Soft-touch "rubberized" texture provides a unique look and extra protection
- Face-in design protects your device's screen
- Locking swivel belt clip with 7 rotating angles
- Easy access to connectors"
One that only fits the phone with the case:
https://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HLHTFEASC
"Seidio’s Innocase holster offers the best carrying solution when paired with our Innocase.
- Designed specifically for Seidio Innocases
- Unique Spring-Clip holds your device securely and lifts for quick access
- Face-in design protects your device's screen
- Locking swivel belt clip with 7 rotating angles
- Easy access to connectors
*This holster is designed for use exclusively with our Innocases and will not fit a "naked" device or other manufacturer's products. "
The holsters are custom fit, the phone only goes in facing you.

NuShrike said:
Just got the Innocase and it's much much better quality than the other Amazon one.
Another truly excellent case after the hybrid Seidio case on the Kaiser.
First 3 pictures are of Innocase
4th is with Amazon's case's top with thick borders around the screen
5th is comparison of these "Touch" screen border thickness.
Macro-mode for those that haven't figured it out in the Youtube videos. Yes, Amazon's case has its rubberization already peeling before I took it out of its shipping packet.
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Hey bro any peeling so far from the Innocase? I just ordered it... I had the ebay one but man screen still freezing after I filed.. bleh...

Capdase + Seidio = $$ = Ultimate Case??

Like the look & feel of a "simple" black leather case, but do NOT like the idea of covering the keyboard with a sheath of plastic (poor feel & seems bound to age poorly) - and so ended up with a Capdase BiFold Leather Case for my Fuze.
Posted pictures & problems with this case earlier, including some Surgery we performed to alleviate Case/Screen interaction. But while the surgery did Help, it did NOT eliminate the problem.
ALSO got concerned about reports of the top LAMINATE lifting off from the lower (button) area of TouchPros. As my screen protector has fallen prey to a similar lifting, having the laminate come up seems at least Possible.
Decided that what was needed was a cover for the TOP of the Fuze - one that would add as little bulk as possible, while both protecting the edges of the unit and providing a bit of separation between the screen and the top flap of the Capdase case (which would sometimes (RE)DIAL the phone at the end of a call! Nice trick if you could control it... )
Ended up buying a Seidio Innocase, which others have reviewed: it does indeed "fit like a glove" - wonderful precision, a nice feel, & leaves plenty of room around the actual Touch portion of the screen. (Carried the Fuze for several days in just the Seidio, but did not like the Exposed Screen.)
The combo of the Capdase BiFold Leather + the TOP HALF of the Innnocase seems to work perfectly: the edges are protected, the screen is protected, the Capdase fits nice & tight against the Seidio (which also provides a bit more protection for the top corners of the Fuze), and there has been no more Accidental Dialing (or Disconnects!).
Combination is obviously Not Cheap (think total came to around $55, incl Shipping Costs), but it IS flexible: can always remove Fuze from the Capdase & snap the Innocase back cover on if a SLIM profile is required.
The Combination fits nicely into an inner jacket / coat pocket (where a tri-fold wallet might fit), and also does well in the top pocket of an Over Shirt (Safari, jean, or wool - as long as pocket has a Closure of some kind!)
A few pictures are attached (hopefully...)

Can never pay too much for protection on our phones. Looking good!

might as well put the phone back in the box it came with and seal it tight so it'll never be scratched. jk

might as well put the phone back in the box it came with and seal it tight so it'll never be scratched
Indeed, the "naked" approach has some arguments in its favor - particularly if ALL you are carrying is just "a phone."
A Phone is relatively inexpensive & readily replaceable: My Razr never saw the inside of a case - but it certainly looked Well Used by the time it was replaced with the Fuze. (At only 16 months or so of usage.)
My Axim (PDA) has never been WITHOUT a case: it has served for over three times as long as the Razr did (and is now approaching 5 years in service), and only in past 6-months or so has it exhibited any outward signs of wear ("chrome" plating on D-pad & "DELL" logo are wearing off). OTOH, have been through numerous screen protectors, and the Daily Carry case (a RhinoSkin) looks like it has been through a war zone: in essence, the screen protectors and the case have 'sacrificed' themselves for the safety of the Axim - and the invaluable data stored within.
My Fuze is PDA FIRST, and Phone second. Like the Axim, I hope to keep the Fuze running for at least 4 years (hopefully longer!), and do not look upon it as Readily Disposable - like A Phone would be. Therefore a good case seems a very worthwhile investment, albeit one that is made more difficult by a) the dual purpose nature of the Fuze (it may be Phone Second, but it DOES still function as a phone), and b) the Sliding Keyboard.
For those who view the Fuze as simply a Fancy Phone - AND have the wherewithal to replace it every couple of years - a case is undoubtedly either a Nuisance or merely a Fashion Statement.
But for others, choosing a good case seems to be a reasonably important decision - otherwise there would not be nearly as many posts on the subject as there are...

well to each their own I guess, I generally change phones every 12 months or so. I guess I cant justify using a case to cover the phone

Kursell Case
This case is ok I own but I like my Kursell orbit Flex Case a lot better the flip leather lid Comes off thats so great plus I love the tight plastic over the keyboard the best case I ever seen
http://www.sfplanet.com/product/753...ex_with_Ratchet_Swivel_Clip_Black__Beige.html

This case is ok ... but I like my Kursell orbit Flex Case a lot better the flip leather lid Comes off thats so great plus I love the tight plastic over the keyboard....
There are several nice looking cases available - the Kursell is one & Pdair makes a couple, although recall looking at others as well - that utilize the Plastic Sheath Over The Keyboard approach. Looked long & hard at several of these, as (like the Kursell) some have a very elegant look!
Unfortunately could not get past the plastic sheath. This strays into "personal preference" territory, but
1) Dislike the "feel" of the plastic on top of the keyboard;
2) A plastic sheath seems to force the two layers of the Fuze apart. That should vary with the type of plastic used: if I hold the Fuze up to a bright background it APPEARS that the gap between the halves should be adequate for a precisely THIN sheet... Overall fit of the Lower part of the case might have an impact here as well, but that's hard to gauge without buying Every Case on the market...
3) Was concerned that the plastic would not WEAR well, given sufficient usage. Yellowing, becoming ratty at the edges, & stretching all seem likely.
Case selection is like PIM choice: Personal Preferences play a major role in product selection, and there are multiple Solutions that are equally viable according to the preference of the end user.
Slip case, or Attached case?
Belt Clip, or Not? (Detachable, or Not? Rotating or Fixed?...)
Leather, Metal, Silicone, Hard Rubber, Or ??
Removable Top Cover (Kursell) or Permanently Attached?
Holders for data cards, styli, Other Things?
Have LOVED the RhinoSkin that has served as the Daily Carry Case for my Axim. But it is an Industrial looking piece of hardware - rather clunky & now somewhat beat up in appearance. So also have a nice (Belkin) Leather case that I use for "need a suit jacket" events.
Frankly - along similar lines - can imagine times where I might forego the extra protection of the Capdase and simply carry the Fuze in the Innocase, as it certainly presents less bulk when in the Seidio...
Options are Nice, but trying TOO many gets expensive!

Looking to also purchase the seidio innocase, but before I do can ppl confirm if it gives problems on pushing on the screen. Have had such cases that seem okay for a few weeks, but then the screen becomes unresponsive due to the case pushing on the touch portion of the screen.
Thanks

Nifty leather case I found, made for the Kaiser

I am a pretty big perfectionist when it comes to cases. I want something that doesn't add steps to the process of using the phone, and something that is durable as well.
I've been through the hard cover cases and found that they look terrible after a few dings. I also found that on most hard cover cases there is a certain point of weakness where the frame is smaller to compensate for port access, which led my case to crack.
Anyways, I just ordered the O24550LCST1BK from CarryMobile.
Google search O24550LCST1BK and click the first link to see it.
When will I have my url restrictions lifted? I've been a registered user for a bit now...
From the pictures it's just what I was looking for. It isn't blocky or otherwise ugly. I really like the rugged appearance and the metal hook on the back for misc usage!
The only downside is that it doesn't have a way to use the keyboard (thats another model that they offer though). I use mostly touch friendly apps anyways so I won't notice it.
When it arrives I will let you know what I think!

Is this the one you meant?
http://www.carrymobile.ru/all_HTC_HTC+Kaiser_HTC+TyTn+II+Sleeve+Type+Black.html
Doesn't seem very svelte. And having to take it off to use the keyboard is a big negative for me.

The O24550LCBSPBK-4550 may be more along the lines of something you would be interested in. I'm debating changing my order for that one and just removing the front cover flap.

Thx but all these cases are a waste of time and money. Just don't throw your phone on the floor and it stays fine. It's all common sense really. If you drop it, well that's your fault isn't it. Take care of your phone and it will last for years.

stuntdouble said:
Thx but all these cases are a waste of time and money. Just don't throw your phone on the floor and it stays fine. It's all common sense really. If you drop it, well that's your fault isn't it. Take care of your phone and it will last for years.
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I can agree with your point of not dropping it being the number 1 way to make a phone last, but in my situation I need a case for both the protection and belt clip usage. I am normally pretty good about taking care of my phone, but I've had a few run ins with people bumping into me.
I know I am perfectly capable of taking care of my phone, but it's the other 'crazy drivers' im worried about. I'd think differently if I hadnt already had to replaced most of the internal components of my phone XD

I use Seidio hard case with local branded leather pouch (vertical, with flap magnetic cover). Pretty handy. Tried not dropping the phone, it's now 3 times already. All due to my own absent mindedness.
However, the Seidio holds up well, it hasn't cracked or anything. Phone working fine still ..
I had PDAir Aluminium on my SE M600 previously, but given Kaiser's bulk & weight, I decided going lighter. Besides I read somewhere the aluminium reduces signal quality (on M600 doesn't matter, not doing any Wifi - it doesn't have one but it matters for Kaiser, both GPS and Wifi)

Its similar to the case I had by SENA for my HTC 8525/HERMES. The only difference it had a flap the covered the entire screen/keyboard and did fully protect the phone. The only problem was you had to remove the phone for the keyboard. Generally didn't use the keyboard so it was perfect. Unfortunately SENA doesn't make one for the KAISER otherwise I'd buy it. Did protect the phone fully.

stim141 said:
Its similar to the case I had by SENA for my HTC 8525/HERMES. The only difference it had a flap the covered the entire screen/keyboard and did fully protect the phone. The only problem was you had to remove the phone for the keyboard. Generally didn't use the keyboard so it was perfect. Unfortunately SENA doesn't make one for the KAISER otherwise I'd buy it. Did protect the phone fully.
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did you look at the O24550LCBSPBK-4550 model? Sounds like what you describe, except you can open it up and the keyboard keys are protected by a plastic layer. I finally broke down and got this case, so I am just waiting on it to arrive from hong kong now