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4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 = exactly 400% the brightness, WOW!!!

For the test, I used some professional light measuring equipment (my DSLR).
I captured an image at F/2.8, ISO 400, at 0 EV. Maxed out brightness on the Note 2, with Auto adjust screen tone off (important). I used a completely white picture shot at the same distance.
Before update:
Shutter speed 1/125s
After update:
Shutter speed 1/500s!
That is exactly 2 full stops. Or 4 times the original brightness.
Now, 400% sounds like a lot, like it would blind you. I don't want to create an over-expectation. It's seems adequately bright in a well lit room, where previously in that same room, the phone maybe seemed kinda dim.
I previously posted when I first got my original Galaxy Note II, that I was a little disappointed because people kept saying it is the brightest screen they ever had, and mine was far from that. But maybe those people saying that had something like this originally, but I just got it now. And it is beautiful.
Model: SHV-E250L (Korean Galaxy Note II, received OTA update today)

Very interesting mate,
thanks for sharing
Vatis

:what:
i have 2 notes here one of them have 4.1.1 and one with latest Poland rom
brightness is 100% the same on white page
its something wrong with ur camera :laugh:

yahyoh said:
:what:
i have 2 notes here one of them have 4.1.1 and one with latest Poland rom
brightness is 100% the same on white page
its something wrong with ur camera :laugh:
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Camera is just fine. It is a precision instrument and I have definitive proof with 2 JPG and CR2 files with EXIF information. But maybe the Korean Note 2 was configured to be dimmer than the Note 2 that you have.
Funny thing is iPhone 5 was just released this week, and that screen is cranked up to super bright when put next to the Note 2. It is a shocking comparison, but now the Note 2 can hold it's own. But maybe they didn't want the negative press and decided to enable the brighter mode for the Korean customers as well.
If your thought your screen was never that dim in bright settings, maybe it will not impact your screen at all. On the other hand, if you were disappointed with the screen's brightness bright rooms or show rooms, then you may be very surprised when the update is applied. No promises. I heard through the grapevine from another XDA member I should expect a big boost in brightness, and I did want to confirm it so I prepared my camera to do testing before I hit update, and after. The improvement has exceeded my expectations.

Lucidmike said:
Camera is just fine. It is a precision instrument and I have definitive proof with 2 JPG and CR2 files with EXIF information. But maybe the Korean Note 2 was configured to be dimmer than the Note 2 that you have.
Funny thing is iPhone 5 was just released this week, and that screen is cranked up to super bright when put next to the Note 2. It is a shocking comparison, but now the Note 2 can hold it's own. But maybe they didn't want the negative press and decided to enable the brighter mode for the Korean customers as well.
If your thought your screen was never that dim in bright settings, maybe it will not impact your screen at all. On the other hand, if you were disappointed with the screen's brightness bright rooms or show rooms, then you may be very surprised when the update is applied. No promises. I heard through the grapevine from another XDA member I should expect a big boost in brightness, and I did want to confirm it so I prepared my camera to do testing before I hit update, and after. The improvement has exceeded my expectations.
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are you sure u shot the photos in the same conditions ? same lightning / sun in the room? totall darkness room ?
but if its 400% brighter you should see difference by ur bare eyes.
4.1.1 to 4.1.2 made no difference in brightness here.
the only thing i seems to notice is that my screen has become sharper. since 4.1.2
also making pictures with the phones cam has improved 200% in dark places also the flash timing and photo taking has improved. i noticed

SKeijmel said:
are you sure u shot the photos in the same conditions ? same lightning / sun in the room? totall darkness room ?
but if its 400% brighter you should see difference by ur bare eyes.
4.1.1 to 4.1.2 made no difference in brightness here.
the only thing i seems to notice is that my screen has become sharper. since 4.1.2
also making pictures with the phones cam has improved 200% in dark places also the flash timing and photo taking has improved. i noticed
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Yes, I did it in a controlled lighted environment. It was a scientific test. I understand light, and how to measure it very accurately because of my years studying photography.
With that said, my model is a Korean SHV-E250L Galaxy Note 2. I got it OTA from my carrier yesterday. The maximum brightness when I got the phone, originally was not as bright as I had hoped. And I just didn't understand how people were saying it was the brightest screen they had. I thought it was just some fake reviews of people trying to promote their haphazardly written reviews that was written with rumors than actual time with the device.
But now I know that some people got really bright Note 2's out of the box, and some didn't. I'm just hoping that people who wished that their Note 2 was a lot brighter, because they think it is dim, may experience the same effect with an update when it arrives.

Yeah just saw your video on the daily note II youtube channel (btw im a subscriber!)

Austin3161337 said:
Yeah just saw your video on the daily note II youtube channel (btw im a subscriber!)
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Same here, like your videos very much. I recommended your channel for a "new to android" friend of mine who recently bought his note 2.
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Hmmm it is definitely brighter, I thought I was the only one who saw it, whites are alot nicer for some reason.

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NumairRana said:
Hmmm it is definitely brighter, I thought I was the only one who saw it, whites are alot nicer for some reason.
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Please let us have the link so that we also can relish a good feature in our phone

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For the test, I used some professional light measuring equipment (my DSLR).
I captured an image at F/2.8, ISO 400, at 0 EV. Maxed out brightness on the Note 2, with Auto adjust screen tone off (important). I used a completely white picture shot at the same distance.
Before update:
Shutter speed 1/125s
After update:
Shutter speed 1/500s!
That is exactly 2 full stops. Or 4 times the original brightness.
Now, 400% sounds like a lot, like it would blind you. I don't want to create an over-expectation. It's seems adequately bright in a well lit room, where previously in that same room, the phone maybe seemed kinda dim.
I previously posted when I first got my original Galaxy Note II, that I was a little disappointed because people kept saying it is the brightest screen they ever had, and mine was far from that. But maybe those people saying that had something like this originally, but I just got it now. And it is beautiful.
Model: SHV-E250L (Korean Galaxy Note II, received OTA update today)
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Thanks for the data, if you could post the CR2's I would be interested in taking a look

androidizen said:
Thanks for the data, if you could post the CR2's I would be interested in taking a look
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Here are the JPEG and CR2's. These pics are not glamour product shots. They are for the purposes of measurements off a highly calibrated light measuring device. You have to look at the EXIF information. The whole point is to take the same picture with the same level of brightness, by only exposing the sensor to 1/4 of the original open shutter time. The shutter speed indicates change in brightness because trying to evaluate a picture being brighter with people's eyes is always subjective.
Here's additional test information.
Camera: Canon 20D
Lens: Canon 60mm Macro F2.8
Light Metering: Center Weighed
ISO: 400
F-stop: F/2.8
0 EV
Phone settings:
100% Brightness
Auto Brightness off
Auto adjust screen tone off
Model: SHV-E250L
The Test:
Before update:
Shutter speed 1/125s - 1/160s
After update:
Shutter speed 1/500s - 1/640s
If you know a bit of photography, you will see that it was a good test with all the right settings. It was done in a room with a very dim controlled light source. It would be impossible to do a test like this with a point & shoot.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/520h0j18tqni5l4/brightnesschange.zip
Again, sounds like not everyone will get this boost, but some people have gotten it. Some people didn't. I just wanted some concrete numbers, hearing that I may notice this. I wanted more definite proof than say something like "yeah, it definitely kinda seems brighter."
So I did this right before and after the update. And I'm glad I did because even with these concrete numbers, people seem to not believe. I can only provide the facts for my device.

I have also noticed higher brightness. Now my eyes becomes tired faster than before

EdgaBimbam said:
I have also noticed higher brightness. Now my eyes becomes tired faster than before
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sorry but brightness is 1000% the same with 4.1.1
i compered note2 running 4.1.1 with my note with 4.1.2 it its same :cyclops:

yahyoh said:
sorry but brightness is 1000% the same with 4.1.1
i compered note2 running 4.1.1 with my note with 4.1.2 it its same :cyclops:
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Dunno but for me lowest brigthness is higher than before. Was darker with 4.1.1 and with first leak 4.1.2

The Brightness is better in 4.1.2
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If it would be 400% brighter then it would exceed at least 800 candela, making it brighter than even the most powerful LCD screens by quite the margin.
Sorry but somebody clearly DOESN'T understand light. Deducting brightness from a camera's shutter speed is failure at logic because they are not directly correlated. The camera can have a logarithmic response to light output in the shutter response.
The scientific method is to use a photometer and nothing else.

Let's try to figure this out.
Gsm arena puts Galaxy Note II at 402cm/2, they put iPhone 5 at 640cm/2.
So these are the possible scenarios:
1. Your Note II is now brighter than iPhone 5.
2. Before the update, your Note II model was dimmer than all others and now it's comparable.
3. You really have no idea what you are talking about.
So what we need is a comparison with iPhone and other Notes!
I myself just flashed a 4.1.2 Rom with matching kernel I did not notice any brightness difference.
I also studied the kernel source for your model "update 1", there were some differences in values for the display driver. But I'm not 100% what they do.
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hatcyl said:
Let's try to figure this out.
Gsm arena puts Galaxy Note II at 402cm/2, they put iPhone 5 at 640cm/2.
So these are the possible scenarios:
1. Your Note II is now brighter than iPhone 5.
2. Before the update, your Note II model was dimmer than all others and now it's comparable.
3. You really have no idea what you are talking about.
So what we need is a comparison with iPhone and other Notes!
I myself just flashed a 4.1.2 Rom with matching kernel I did not notice any brightness difference.
I also studied the kernel source for your model "update 1", there were some differences in values for the display driver. But I'm not 100% what they do.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2008197
Here is a 16% real increase in brightness. Or from your point of view, 169%.
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Screen Modes Comparison?

I've noticed in the phonearena review that there is a new Adobe RGB screen mode and a new Adapt Display option. Are there any articles that show and tell exactly how these work and if the colour reproduction is as good as the iphone 5 or HTC one?

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I've noticed in the phonearena review that there is a new Adobe RGB screen mode and a new Adapt Display option. Are there any articles that show and tell exactly how these work and if the colour reproduction is as good as the iphone 5 or HTC one?
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I was wondering the same. I didn't care for the colors on the S3 and find my iPhone 5 screen/colors much better. I think I'm really going to like the S4, particularly if you can change the display modes.

bubu_bubu said:
I've noticed in the phonearena review that there is a new Adobe RGB screen mode and a new Adapt Display option. Are there any articles that show and tell exactly how these work and if the colour reproduction is as good as the iphone 5 or HTC one?
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htc has Super LCD
iPhone has IPS
and Samsung has Super AMOLED with some special matrix of pixel from Samsung
So samsung devices are little bit darker than iphones and htcs and thr s little bit problem in sun-light to use tham (u will have to set brightness to 100% to use galaxy S3 (for example) on sun-light)
u can search Galaxies pixel matrix on google and check lots of img about it so u will get ur answer better.
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x102x96x said:
htc has Super LCD
iPhone has IPS
and Samsung has Super AMOLED with some special matrix of pixel from Samsung
So samsung devices are little bit darker than iphones and htcs and thr s little bit problem in sun-light to use tham (u will have to set brightness to 100% to use galaxy S3 (for example) on sun-light)
u can search Galaxies pixel matrix on google and check lots of img about it so u will get ur answer better.
:good:
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You haven't read my post have you?

bubu_bubu said:
I've noticed in the phonearena review that there is a new Adobe RGB screen mode and a new Adapt Display option. Are there any articles that show and tell exactly how these work and if the colour reproduction is as good as the iphone 5 or HTC one?
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To the OP, check this piece via GSMArena (with links to the original source) - looks like the Adobe and Film modes are the real deal for colour temperature and accuracy. Colour accuracy is dramatically better than the One, which has a colour temperature of ~8000 (worse than the S3, decidedly blue tint that discolours greys in particular, I notice the same on my HTC BUtterfly).

First, title says it all
Comparison threads are not allowed on xda

CNexus said:
First, title says it all
Comparison threads are not allowed on xda
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whats your problem why dont you go troll somewhere else. you have to make silly comment on each thread.
OP i have just had Galaxy S4 coluor reproduction isnt as goo as lcds unfortunately. still same on RGB mode screen get dimmer too

[Q] Screen modes on GE S4

Hi,
I've just flashed the GE rom on my international I9505 and I'm not missing any of the extras except for the screen modes. I really hate the over saturated colors of the amoled and was really happy using "movie" mode on touchwiz.
My question is - is it possible to port this functionality to the GE rom or is there an app for ajdusting the screen?
Thank you all!

masciam said:
Hi,
I've just flashed the GE rom on my international I9505 and I'm not missing any of the extras except for the screen modes. I really hate the over saturated colors of the amoled and was really happy using "movie" mode on touchwiz.
My question is - is it possible to port this functionality to the GE rom or is there an app for ajdusting the screen?
Thank you all!
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Actually in S4 standard screen mode is the most accurate one because screen is magnitudes better than S3, which produced extremely over saturated colors in standard mode.
here's in depth review of S4 screen, as you can see Standard mode produces the most accurate colors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=U...C_APG3kLiYs&feature=player_detailpage#t=1029s

Glotttis said:
Actually in S4 standard screen mode is the most accurate one because screen is magnitudes better than S3, which produced extremely over saturated colors in standard mode.
here's in depth review of S4 screen, as you can see Standard mode produces the most accurate colors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=U...C_APG3kLiYs&feature=player_detailpage#t=1029s
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Hi,
I didn't watch the video as it it 22min long, but I can tell you that standard is not accurate by any means. You don't even need to compare it to anything else to notice that. Reds/pinks are terrible and so are some shades of blue. I work on a calibrated monitor so this really bothers me.
I can see the average user liking standard better, but it's nice to have the option.

And here i thought every galaxy s owner used the dynamic screen mode
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masciam said:
Hi,
I didn't watch the video as it it 22min long, but I can tell you that standard is not accurate by any means. You don't even need to compare it to anything else to notice that. Reds/pinks are terrible and so are some shades of blue. I work on a calibrated monitor so this really bothers me.
I can see the average user liking standard better, but it's nice to have the option.
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i linked exact time code in the video where each display mode is reviewed with charts, and standard mode clearly has the most accurate color reproduction. now please show me proof that standard mode isn't good?

Glotttis said:
i linked exact time code in the video where each display mode is reviewed with charts, and standard mode clearly has the most accurate color reproduction. now please show me proof that standard mode isn't good?
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http://anandtech.com/show/6914/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/8
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...-is-much-better-than-the-s3-ties-the-iphone-5
Either way, I don't know why you started this argument. I just asked if it was possible to port this to the GE rom.

Interesting bit from the second link
The S4′s display is also notably more efficient than the S3′s. Average power efficiency for the S3 (compared at the same hypothetical screen size) came out to 0.83W. The S4, in contrast, hits 0.70W. That’s within spitting distance of the iPhone 5′s 0.66W and it’s another sizable improvement for OLED technology.
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masciam said:
http://anandtech.com/show/6914/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/8
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...-is-much-better-than-the-s3-ties-the-iphone-5
Either way, I don't know why you started this argument. I just asked if it was possible to port this to the GE rom.
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B2T is there any way to do a display mod, the film settings on TW roms are really much better!

[Q] S4 one of the best screen under sunlight?

Whatever people are saying GSM Arena keep saying the S4 has one of the best screen under sunlight
However, the end result is strongly in favor of the Samsung Galaxy S4. It took a small step back compared to the Galaxy S III, but it still has one of the best screens to use in direct sunlight. The LG G2 has a fairly disappointing sunlight legibility score of just under what the Apple iPhone 4 managed. Apple has greatly improved its screens since, while the G2 is beaten by a midrange HTC Desire 600 dual sim (to be fair the higher end HTC One mini is actually worse)
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What do YOU say?

vegetaleb said:
Whatever people are saying GSM Arena keep saying the S4 has one of the best screen under sunlight
What do YOU say?
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That it is CR#P in direct sunlight. Almost unusably bad.

I would say is not very good, but is far better than my previous phones: razr maxx and xperia arc.

It is pretty bad under direct sunlight because it reflects so much light... After using the HTC One it does feel like crap in direct sunlight

Well the only best way to use it in sunlight is to put the brightness all the way up. If its down than its crap
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[email protected] said:
Well the only best way to use it in sunlight is to put the brightness all the way up. If its down than its crap
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Automatic brightness +5?
I heard it's pretty much usable with these settings,just slightly less than the One.
Btw if HTC doesn't fix my purple camera on my One with the 4.3 update I am cconsidering the S4 or G2

Worse than the S2 in full sunlight regardless of what brightness settings you use (even on 100%).

Can you try this app?
It boost the brightness beyond stock's limit, I tested it on my One and I clearly have at least +10% brightness on max levels.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vitocassisi.luxlite&hl=en

Screen mode!

Hi gays, im just curious what type of screen mode do you use?
I use amoled cinema, because it looks natural.

I am guessing you probably meant "GUYS", am I right?
I like the AMOLED cinema, but the Adaptive Display isn't bad either, which is what I used for a couple weeks until I found the setting to change it. I couldn't stand the Basic. I thought it made everything look awful. There is no sense in having a nice screen and not using it.

I use AMOLED Cinema. Best option imo.

Im actualy using Basic mode for normal use. My computer screen is calibrated, tv is also calibrated and I just can't take over saturated pictures. Basic mode has closest true to life colors. When I watch longer video/film i switch to Cinema mode.
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darekz said:
Im actualy using Basic mode for normal use. My computer screen is calibrated, tv is also calibrated and I just can't take over saturated pictures. Basic mode has closest true to life colors. When I watch longer video/film i switch to Cinema mode.
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are you kidding me? basic is so yellowish i feel like my screen has hepatitis LOL!

Basic is the closest you're going to get to accurate colors. All of the other modes are over saturated.

johnan2112 said:
Basic is the closest you're going to get to accurate colors. All of the other modes are over saturated.
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too bad you dont apply the usage of QHD!!! if i turn my mode to basic, i wouldnt waste my 750$ for this.
I can see a "close to real view or real color" experience on my nokia n95 phone.

rudynasco said:
too bad you dont apply the usage of QHD!!! if i turn my mode to basic, i wouldnt waste my 750$ for this.
I can see a "close to real view or real color" experience on my nokia n95 phone.
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What does color accuracy and saturation have to do with QHD? QHD is the resolution of the display. It has nothing to do with what colors it shows.

rudynasco said:
are you kidding me? basic is so yellowish i feel like my screen has hepatitis LOL!
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We all like different things.
This article may explain you how different modes work on Note 4.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note4_ShootOut_1.htm
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lol Amoled cinema, i feel sorry for you
Basic mode and accurate colors are why Amoleds finally matched IPS displays, and you are ruing it.