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x10 display improvement

As most of u are aware, after the 2.1 update, the x10 display will no longer be limited by software and its display will bump up from 65thou to 16m colors, as u can see theres a way bigger spectrum of colors that our phones will display so my question is, will that diffrence be huge? Will it be noticable? how will it improve display quality(in terms of sharpness, beauty, depth, quality...erc)?

My guess is better quality games. 720p video on youtbe and recordings will be better. Picture quaity and a more clearer display overall. I want this update lol
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Changes will surely be noticeable, i still think they did a pretty darn good job with the colours as it is now really looking forward to see the changes
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Tjotte said:
Changes will surely be noticeable, i still think they did a pretty darn good job with the colours as it is now really looking forward to see the changes
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i agree, i came from a iphone 3g and the quality is way better, i dont knw how much better it might get

wallpapers will be a big difference

My understanding is that having more colours will only make a difference if you're looking at things that are extremely close to the same colour (i.e. gradients). Just compare it to some phone with 16M colours, see if there's any noticeable difference.

you mean you won't notice this ?

i am waiting for this update man

mezo9090 said:
you mean you won't notice this ?
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If I stare very closely at the Mediascape background for a couple seconds, I can see some bands, where the shades don't change smoothly. Maybe you have sharper eyes than me, because I am not at all bothered by it..

chris_knows said:
If I stare very closely at the Mediascape background for a couple seconds, I can see some bands, where the shades don't change smoothly. Maybe you have sharper eyes than me, because I am not at all bothered by it..
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compare it to your x10 and tell me the difference please. is it the same ?

I don't think you'll notice any difference as the Screen on the X10 only supports 65K colours, irrespective of what the OS can support, check out the Spec on the SE website.

I don't expect much difference. I mean, I never go like "oh man, the colors on my X10 suck, I wish they were better". The colors are fine the way they are (to me). I never stare at the screen long enough to notice color banding that may occur in some pictures.

sixdaysandy said:
I don't think you'll notice any difference as the Screen on the X10 only supports 65K colours, irrespective of what the OS can support, check out the Spec on the SE website.
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the hardware supports 16m colors but now its limited to the os

mmk92 said:
the hardware supports 16m colors but now its limited to the os
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My mistake, I was under the impression that the hardware was only capable of 65K, in the same way that it's not capable of MT, irrespective of OS level.
I hope you're right

It will be fairly subjective, dependant on both the picture and the person viewing.
Alot of pics are going to look better, others will show little difference.
Personally I can't wait to have wallpapers that have no bloody bands of colour instead of a grady'all change of shade. It looks horrible.
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Epic video calibration

Being a home theater enthusiast and calibrating every hdtv I've got me thinking if its possible on android too. And I don't mean the sensitivity or the like. I mean video as in color and brightness. I watch alot of videos and to my experience both are off. Brightness is way too low you can't make out details in dark scenes. Some would say the color is oversaturated... it isn't. Brightness is too low making colors seem this way. A few notches in the brightness scale should take care of it. Anyone know if its possible?
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Try manually setting your brightness settings in SETTINGS->DISPLAY->BRIGHTNESS?
I'm a professional video editor and I'm not THAT crazy about having perfect settings for watching video on my phone. Why? I'm usually not in ideal viewing conditions to watch an internet quality video for a few moments on a 4 inch screen with a dinky mono speaker.
Although, I know a few Apple Engineers in Cupertino that are REAL geeks that put bars and tone on their iPhone to just show off.

RushAOZ said:
Being a home theater enthusiast and calibrating every hdtv I've got me thinking if its possible on android too. And I don't mean the sensitivity or the like. I mean video as in color and brightness. I watch alot of videos and to my experience both are off. Brightness is way too low you can't make out details in dark scenes. Some would say the color is oversaturated... it isn't. Brightness is too low making colors seem this way. A few notches in the brightness scale should take care of it. Anyone know if its possible?
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http://project-voodoo.org/color
It's in vision kernel.

I was thinking of having my Windows desktop show on my Epic's screen using a VNC client. Plop the colorimeter on the Epic, and run the color calibration software on Windows. That would generate an ICC profile for the Epic's screen.
The next question though is how do I get the Epic to apply the ICC profile?
And in case you're curious, my colorimeter measured 7730-7740 K for pure white on the Epic's screen. So yes, it's rather blue.

Yea, nothing personal to the OP, but the colors are most definitely oversaturated. Has nothing to do with the brightness. Samsung, being a display manufacturer as well as a phone manufacturer, has display manufacturer tendencies. One of which is to oversaturate color on a display in order to give a "wow factor" to indiscriminate purchasers who generally assume that brighter and more vivid are better. Every amoled display used on a phone to date has had blooming out the wazoo. Not to mention how ridiculous skin tones look in photographs. I also wish there were a way to calibrate these things. I use a Thunderbolt which is now exhibiting some of the same issues with it's SLCD screen. Although I'm pretty sure that all they did was take the screens used on the EVO and pump up the color saturation. Guessing that's internally what the "S" stands for. The whites are nicer on the thunderbolt though, so at least I get that I guess.

Screen Modes Comparison?

I've noticed in the phonearena review that there is a new Adobe RGB screen mode and a new Adapt Display option. Are there any articles that show and tell exactly how these work and if the colour reproduction is as good as the iphone 5 or HTC one?

bubu_bubu said:
I've noticed in the phonearena review that there is a new Adobe RGB screen mode and a new Adapt Display option. Are there any articles that show and tell exactly how these work and if the colour reproduction is as good as the iphone 5 or HTC one?
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I was wondering the same. I didn't care for the colors on the S3 and find my iPhone 5 screen/colors much better. I think I'm really going to like the S4, particularly if you can change the display modes.

bubu_bubu said:
I've noticed in the phonearena review that there is a new Adobe RGB screen mode and a new Adapt Display option. Are there any articles that show and tell exactly how these work and if the colour reproduction is as good as the iphone 5 or HTC one?
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htc has Super LCD
iPhone has IPS
and Samsung has Super AMOLED with some special matrix of pixel from Samsung
So samsung devices are little bit darker than iphones and htcs and thr s little bit problem in sun-light to use tham (u will have to set brightness to 100% to use galaxy S3 (for example) on sun-light)
u can search Galaxies pixel matrix on google and check lots of img about it so u will get ur answer better.
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x102x96x said:
htc has Super LCD
iPhone has IPS
and Samsung has Super AMOLED with some special matrix of pixel from Samsung
So samsung devices are little bit darker than iphones and htcs and thr s little bit problem in sun-light to use tham (u will have to set brightness to 100% to use galaxy S3 (for example) on sun-light)
u can search Galaxies pixel matrix on google and check lots of img about it so u will get ur answer better.
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You haven't read my post have you?

bubu_bubu said:
I've noticed in the phonearena review that there is a new Adobe RGB screen mode and a new Adapt Display option. Are there any articles that show and tell exactly how these work and if the colour reproduction is as good as the iphone 5 or HTC one?
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To the OP, check this piece via GSMArena (with links to the original source) - looks like the Adobe and Film modes are the real deal for colour temperature and accuracy. Colour accuracy is dramatically better than the One, which has a colour temperature of ~8000 (worse than the S3, decidedly blue tint that discolours greys in particular, I notice the same on my HTC BUtterfly).

First, title says it all
Comparison threads are not allowed on xda

CNexus said:
First, title says it all
Comparison threads are not allowed on xda
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whats your problem why dont you go troll somewhere else. you have to make silly comment on each thread.
OP i have just had Galaxy S4 coluor reproduction isnt as goo as lcds unfortunately. still same on RGB mode screen get dimmer too

[Q] Screen modes on GE S4

Hi,
I've just flashed the GE rom on my international I9505 and I'm not missing any of the extras except for the screen modes. I really hate the over saturated colors of the amoled and was really happy using "movie" mode on touchwiz.
My question is - is it possible to port this functionality to the GE rom or is there an app for ajdusting the screen?
Thank you all!

masciam said:
Hi,
I've just flashed the GE rom on my international I9505 and I'm not missing any of the extras except for the screen modes. I really hate the over saturated colors of the amoled and was really happy using "movie" mode on touchwiz.
My question is - is it possible to port this functionality to the GE rom or is there an app for ajdusting the screen?
Thank you all!
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Actually in S4 standard screen mode is the most accurate one because screen is magnitudes better than S3, which produced extremely over saturated colors in standard mode.
here's in depth review of S4 screen, as you can see Standard mode produces the most accurate colors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=U...C_APG3kLiYs&feature=player_detailpage#t=1029s

Glotttis said:
Actually in S4 standard screen mode is the most accurate one because screen is magnitudes better than S3, which produced extremely over saturated colors in standard mode.
here's in depth review of S4 screen, as you can see Standard mode produces the most accurate colors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=U...C_APG3kLiYs&feature=player_detailpage#t=1029s
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Hi,
I didn't watch the video as it it 22min long, but I can tell you that standard is not accurate by any means. You don't even need to compare it to anything else to notice that. Reds/pinks are terrible and so are some shades of blue. I work on a calibrated monitor so this really bothers me.
I can see the average user liking standard better, but it's nice to have the option.

And here i thought every galaxy s owner used the dynamic screen mode
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masciam said:
Hi,
I didn't watch the video as it it 22min long, but I can tell you that standard is not accurate by any means. You don't even need to compare it to anything else to notice that. Reds/pinks are terrible and so are some shades of blue. I work on a calibrated monitor so this really bothers me.
I can see the average user liking standard better, but it's nice to have the option.
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i linked exact time code in the video where each display mode is reviewed with charts, and standard mode clearly has the most accurate color reproduction. now please show me proof that standard mode isn't good?

Glotttis said:
i linked exact time code in the video where each display mode is reviewed with charts, and standard mode clearly has the most accurate color reproduction. now please show me proof that standard mode isn't good?
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http://anandtech.com/show/6914/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/8
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...-is-much-better-than-the-s3-ties-the-iphone-5
Either way, I don't know why you started this argument. I just asked if it was possible to port this to the GE rom.

Interesting bit from the second link
The S4′s display is also notably more efficient than the S3′s. Average power efficiency for the S3 (compared at the same hypothetical screen size) came out to 0.83W. The S4, in contrast, hits 0.70W. That’s within spitting distance of the iPhone 5′s 0.66W and it’s another sizable improvement for OLED technology.
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masciam said:
http://anandtech.com/show/6914/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/8
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...-is-much-better-than-the-s3-ties-the-iphone-5
Either way, I don't know why you started this argument. I just asked if it was possible to port this to the GE rom.
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B2T is there any way to do a display mod, the film settings on TW roms are really much better!

[Q] Samsung Galaxy S5 Display (Color Representation)

Hi,
I'm in process of buying Galaxy S5 but have one question to be answered. I've read some mixed reviews regarding the display performance and color representation of the S5 and I couldn't decide who to believe. I've read that cinema mode is the most accurate but also seen some reviews that it isn't as good either. A one of the most recent article on PhoneArena about displays also added to my fears regarding S5 display.
I want to ask from S5 users that is it really the case, does it really noticeable while viewing videos/images or playing games etc. How does cinema mode competes with M8, Z2 etc.

Phonearena have done quite a few blunders recently in their reviews, I don't trust them.
I'd rather go for AnandTech and DisplayMate test results. They have given the S5 very high marks.
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drakester09 said:
Phonearena have done quite a few blunders recently in their reviews, I don't trust them.
I'd rather go for AnandTech and DisplayMate test results. They have given the S5 very high marks.
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Thanks for your reply. As you are using S5 can you please tell me your personal experience with display.

I recently changed from a S3 to S5 (G900F). The colors are much more natural than S3's, the screen is a lot brighter and the quality is awesome. It has extremely deep black so deep that you can't distinguish if the screen is off or on! Even in a dark room. The brightness helps when you are outdoors. I live in Macedonia, Greece and here in Greece we have a lot of sunshine through the year, especially now I find it easier to use under sunlight than the S3. Also the white is very good.
So, to sum up:
-Natural colors
-Deep black
-Very bright when you need it.
-Battery savings thanks to amoled technology.
I recommend that you use the phone in person before buying it, from a friend or at a store. This is my personal experience so don't take it for granted. You may end up with different results from me when you use it because everyone has different needs/expectations.

tahirk said:
Thanks for your reply. As you are using S5 can you please tell me your personal experience with display.
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I really like it but I use it on Cinema mode all the time. I can't stand oversaturation coming from a Nexus 5.

So, would you guys suggest that Cinema Mode is the way to go for everyday use?

drakester09 said:
I really like it but I use it on Cinema mode all the time. I can't stand oversaturation coming from a Nexus 5.
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Does it gets close to Nexus 5 in Cinema mode?

tahirk said:
Does it gets close to Nexus 5 in Cinema mode?
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Quite a bit, it's not bad at all.

Cinema mode is the Most natural But is stile Not perfect. With root could be possible To chance color value in The Files with The screen configurations? Chance The code strings. Because it is only a setting like The TV setting preset... But on a TV we Can set manually contrast gamma saturation ecc.. It would be interesting To find Files in The Phone that contains The sets of The screen And Try To change......