Well..
You can tell its winding down for the G-Pad 8.3.. Conversation is almost at a standstill. There's certainly some ROM's to choose from.. but other than folks complaining about this issue or that, not much else is being discussed. This is a fine little Tablet.. and I've not had single issue with it..
I don't even see the blue line anymore.. somehow that cleared itself up..
So I thought I would ask the question.. Any idea what you next Tablet is going to be? or are you good with the G-Pad for the rest of 2014 and beyond?
Just bought the Gpad… so it will do for the rest of 2014. Considered the Galaxy tab pro 8.4, but the ultra high resolution makes lots of thing too small to read. I am also not a fan of Samsung's physical buttons.
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just got a LG G Pad LTE too, for LTE fallback when I'm traveling and t-mobile coverage doesn't cut it
we're still waiting for more info on the LG G pad 7.0/8.0/10.1. LG said they'll be releasing more info during the MedPi 2014 event, but nothing...
insufficient brightness is probably the only shortcoming. camera quality is just meh, but don't really care. pricing (vs the nexus 7) is another thing, but what can you do?
closest competitor would be the Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 with a higher-res screen and better CPU (and at least $70 more expensive on MSRP, $100 more expensive when comparing on-sale prices)
I don't see any reason to upgrade this tablet in the next 2 years, unless battery dies for some reason or I drop it and break it
ncguy68 said:
Just bought the Gpad… so it will do for the rest of 2014. Considered the Galaxy tab pro 8.4, but the ultra high resolution makes lots of thing too small to read. I am also not a fan of Samsung's physical buttons.
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paperWastage said:
just got a LG G Pad LTE too, insufficient brightness is probably the only shortcoming. camera quality is just meh
I don't see any reason to upgrade this tablet in the next 2 years, unless battery dies for some reason or I drop it and break it
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Congrats to both of you on your purchase..
You'll like this tablet.. NC I agree on an 8 inch tablet, the physical home and capacitive buttons really become annoying when hold the tablet in landscape.. You can do a build.prop mod and turn them all off and just use a pie.. I don't mind them so much on a 10 inch device though.. But I've owned a Note 8 and Tab 3 8.0 and they suck whether on or modded off on an 8 inch device.
When new Android version is released I think the forum will be much busier. For now, I don't even want to root this Pad. It's fine what LG did with stock rom already.
Guess that's a good sign when custom ROMs are not that necessary :laugh:
I'm going to keep using my G Pad till it stops working (I hope that will never happen)
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Vietanh198 said:
For now, I don't even want to root this Pad. It's fine what LG did with stock rom already.
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Relieved of it's bulk.. the stock ROM has it's merits.. but you should at least root to have the option freeze bloat and have access to apps that require root... Trust me on this.. The Mahdi-ROM is head and shoulders above the rest.. you really should give it a whirl..
If after using it, you feel it's not for you.. just run the LG updater software and select "Update Recovery".. 30 mins later you'll have your bone stock 8.3 back again..
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Relieved of it's bulk.. the stock ROM has it's merits.. but you should at least root to have the option freeze bloat and have access to apps that require root... Trust me on this.. The Mahdi-ROM is head and shoulders above the rest.. you really should give it a whirl..
If after using it, you feel it's not for you.. just run the LG updater software and select "Update Recovery".. 30 mins later you'll have your bone stock 8.3 back again..
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The only reason for rooting to me is to increase the battery life. I actually love using LG apps and most of them can be removed without root. My average battery life is 6-7 hrs depending on how much game I play. Will I get up to 8 hrs with root and some tweaks only?
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Congrats to both of you on your purchase..
You'll like this tablet.. NC I agree on an 8 inch tablet, the physical home and capacitive buttons really become annoying when hold the tablet in landscape.. You can do a build.prop mod and turn them all off and just use a pie.. I don't mind them so much on a 10 inch device though.. But I've owned a Note 8 and Tab 3 8.0 and they suck whether on or modded off on an 8 inch device. Strangely enough though I've been giving my next phone purchase a LOT of thought.. And I sure now I will go with the Samsung S5 Prime.. since a phone is a different ballgame. With my phone, it's in portrait mode 95% of the time.. even when I txt so the buttons won't bother me that much even though I'll still turn them off and use a pie.. I just have to have that 1440P 2K Screen and the 805 / 420 CPu / GPu that's going to power the Prime..:
I'm also curious to hear more about the V700.. the 10.1 inch G-Pad. I wonder if it's low end or high end..
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Have you consider getting the lg g3
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Have you consider getting the lg g3
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I think it will be my next phone.
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All I know about my next tablet is that it doesn't exist yet.
Brianetta said:
All I know about my next tablet is that it doesn't exist yet.
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I Agree. But I'm sure something will come soon to grab our attention!
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The only reason for rooting to me is to increase the battery life. I actually love using LG apps and most of them can be removed without root. My average battery life is 6-7 hrs depending on how much game I play. Will I get up to 8 hrs with root and some tweaks only?
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Vietanh.. Battery Life is one of the most subjective characteristics of any mobile device..
There is no way I'm going to tell you that, you will receive better battery life by switch to a custom ROM. Battery life comes down to personal usage habits.. plain and simple.
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Have you consider getting the lg g3
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Snake.. it's off topic.. but since there is not a whole lot to say about the G-Pad these days, let's discuss the LG-G3..
Short answer.. No Way would I purchase the LG-G3.
Now.. Let me explain why..
LG got caught between a rock and a hard place with the G3.. I call it a *Tweener Phone* because, it's early enough to be the 1st mass produced flagship smartphone to have 2560 x 1440P (2K) resolution BUT its (fatal flaw to me) is.. it's so early, LG had no choice but to go with the Snapdragon 801 CPu chipset which houses the Adreno 330 GPu..
That's last year's tech..
The 801really is just a Warmed Over Snapdragon 800 with the same 4 Krait 400 CPu's and of course the Adreno 330 that have been around for almost 10 months now.. I can't see spending $700.00 on a GREAT LQQKING device that has basically 2013.5 specs.
Whereas the Prime models from Samsung and HTC (whether they come in the rumored June/July timeframe or not) will have the Snapdragon 805 chipset.. Which by Qualcomm's own words was designed for 4K (Quad-HD) technology.
And I would feel MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE knowing I spent $700.00 bucks on hardware that was designed to run the device to it's maximum potential.. Since the 805 chipset has the upgraded Krait 450 CPu's and MONSTER Adreno 420 GPu the new chipset is 15% better performing overall and a whooping 40% stronger graphics wise than the 801/330 chipset that will be in the G3.. And the 805 will be the 1st chipset to have PS3 HD Level graphics in a smartphone device... (That's sharp dude..)
In my book that is a Substantial increase in graphics and power..
So as much as I love the looks of the G3, I cannot justify sticking with LG on this one.. I understand they were forced to move up their timetable for releasing their 2014 flagship to compete with Samsung S5 and HTC's M8.. but what they should do is "Swallow Their Pride" and release a Prime model of their own this fall with the updated 805 chipset..
Of course the 801 in the G3 will run it fine.. just not at it's maximum potential now that it has over 530 ppi to push.. here is a look at the improvements in the new 805 chipset..
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Here is a video that's worth a view as well.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgHifospK8w
I honestly don't have a need for a next tablet. This one is the perfect size for me, and it's powerful enough to do anything I'll want to do with it for quite some time. If, for some reason, I needed to replace my 8.3 (broken/dead/lost/stolen), I'd probably just get another one.
Although, if/when the rumored Nexus 8 ever comes out, this might change.
I do kinda have a desire for a second tablet, but it'd be a downgrade like a Hisense Sero 7 Pro or 2012 Nexus 7. Something I can throw around and toss in my backpack without worrying about keeping my 8.3 pristine.
I actually picked up a refurbished 2013 Nexus 7. Great tablet. My other Nexus 7 was bricked (2012 version) and I wanted something small enough take with me on the go. I really like the 8.3, but it's a bit much to just grab and go.
I'm waiting to see if Nexus will release an 8in model. if not, I'll see what LG put out next.. I'm liking my LG tablet over Samsung tablet.
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I honestly don't have a need for a next tablet. This one is the perfect size for me.
Although, if/when the rumored Nexus 8 ever comes out, this might change.
I do kinda have a desire for a second tablet, but it'd be a downgrade like a Hisense Sero 7 Pro or 2012 Nexus 7. Something I can throw around.
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First Things First...
The Sero Hisense 7 Pro is only $115.00 @ Walmart.
Be careful though.. and stress it early.. I had one of those to mess with back when they first came out and thank goodness I stressed it within my return window ( just playing 3D games) they're known to have heatsink material breakdowns.. and the rear of the device will start to radiate heat even at idle.. RETURN IMMEDIATELY if this is the case.
Ah... The HTC Nexus 8.9..
It will cost $400.00 + Tax.. I don't care..
It will be bigger than the G-Pad 8.3.. I don't care..
It will mean selling my G-Pad 8.3, again.. I don't care..
Not only will it be a *Classic* being the final Nexus device ever produced.. it going to be stunning visually being produced by HTC..
it's what I pretty much envisioned.. a little taller and wider than the 8.3 ( of course @ 8.9 inches ) and that's ok because it will follow HTC's front speaker placement.. which is the way ALL phones and tablets should be designed..
Throw in the 805 chipset and a 2K 1440P resolution display for a Brilliant & Vibrant (FINALLY) screen ( something the G-Pad sorely lacks ) and top all that off with KitKat 4..4.3 or Key-Lime Pie 4.5/ 5.0 and I'll have no tears in my eyes when I pack my G-Pad 8.3 off to it's new owner..
With Google I/O coming up in less than 30 days.. and the M8 already in the pipeline,
the HTC Nexus 8.9 tablet and HTC M8 Prime could very well have me 100% in HTC's camp..
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First Things First...
The Sero Hisense 7 Pro is only $115.00 @ Walmart.
Be careful though.. and stress it early.. I had one of those to mess with back when they first came out and thank goodness I stressed it within my return window ( just playing 3D games) they're known to have heatsink material breakdowns.. and the rear of the device will start to radiate heat even at idle.. RETURN IMMEDIATELY if this is the case.
Ah... The HTC Nexus 8.9..
It will cost $400.00 + Tax.. I don't care..
It will be bigger than the G-Pad 8.3.. I don't care..
It will mean selling my G-Pad 8.3, again.. I don't care..
Not only will it be a *Classic* being the final Nexus device ever produced.. it going to be stunning visually being produced by HTC..
it's what I pretty much how I envisioned.. a little taller and wider than the 8.3 ( of course @ 8.9 inches ) and that's ok because it will follow HTC's front speaker placement.. which is the way ALL phones and tablets should be designed..
Throw in the 805 chipset and a 2K 1440P resolution display for a Brilliant & Vibrant (FINALLY) screen ( something the G-Pad sorely lacks ) and top all that off with KitKat 4..4.3 or Key-Lime Pie 4.5/ 5.0 and I'll have no tears in my eyes when I pack my G-Pad 8.3 off to it's new owner..
With Google I/O coming up in less than 30 days.. and the M8 already in the pipeline,
the HTC Nexus 8.9 tablet and HTC M8 Prime could very well have me 100% in HTC's camp..
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Hope your nexus 8.9 price guess is wrong. Lol. $400 is lots of cash.
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NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
Hope your nexus 8.9 price guess is wrong. Lol. $400 is lots of cash.
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They are not for everybody chief... You can't have a high level tablet like an HTC built Nexus device for $269.00 like the Asus built Nexus 7 was..
Those days are over for Google.. That's why this is the FINAL Nexus product.. and to be honest this is going to be a *Transition* product.. Taking those that are interested from the barebones (non-profit) Nexus line to the (profit) Google Silver Line..
Google is officially OUT of the "Bargain Basement" business and ready to play with the big boys... with their Phones and Tablets..
This is designed to compete with the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 and iPad Retina Mini.. Not the "Best Bang For Your Buck" segment anymore.
And.. that's going to turn a lot of people off.. I get that.. But Google has to do this to be perceived as a "Real Alternative" to Samsung and Apple when they hit Verizon, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile ( with their 2nd device ) with the launch of the Silver Line.. not to mention BestBuy and whoever else they may partner with.. They may go as far as T.V. commercial bombardment like Samsung since they certainly have the funds to do so..
It's a New Google.. and you are going to have to *Pay to Play*
That HTC is certainly sexy, but it's obviously not the Nexus 8 or 8.9 or whatever. Hopefully the Nexus follows the same design language. Like wheels on luggage or upside-down ketchup bottles, I don't know why it's taken manufacturers so long to do front-facing speakers.
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What do you guys think of the new Chinese phone that supports USA carriers?
You can view the specs here:
http://en.oppo.com/product/find5/
http://www.oppousa.com/
It's about the size of the Droid DNA, but better. I'm actually thinking of getting this. Doesn't have SD Card but has 16GB and 32GB Version! Great price, and a premium product.
Bad thing is......you have to buy it via western union and/or wire transfer. They do accept Paypal over $300. They sent me this:
For avoid credit card fraud,we don't accept payments for product 300$ or more by Paypal or by credit cards. payments for product 300$ or more must be paid by bank transfer or Western Union MoneyGram. For more information,please visit : http://www.fastcardtech.com/article-9-Payment+Methods.html
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Interesting phone! Looks sorta like a Optimus L9.
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Interesting phone! Looks sorta like a Optimus L9.
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Yeah it does! But the renders of this makes the phone looks huge when in reality its about the size of the DNA. I can't wait till Next Wednesday when they talk about it at one of the Beijing events.
It indeed has an SD slot and MHL, and everything else you would need) http://opposj.zol.com.cn/163/1673_1620749.html
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Also as far as I checked fastcardtech.com is a FRAUD. I would not recommend anyone to use them. It's better to wait for a decent US release and find a relative in Sales TAX Free state OR use some well known taobao middlemen.
looks good on the paper
Looks good on the paper. 1080p for a phone is an overkill if you ask me with today's battery technology. I bet this phone has major draws.
I would consider it if the power button were on the side, I almost never use two hands with my phone and this would annoy me to no end.
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The only thing which bothers me, as a previous Tab 7.7 owner, the lack of software support, I may even sacrifice some hardware stuff for better official or xda community support potential. As far as I see it now the DNA, a major brand product, is nowhere near the Nexus devices in all the development and ROM hacking fuss. Oppo is moving to the global market, thus the good software support is implied but yet to be confirmed.
Actually, the size of the OPPO Find 5 is nowhere near the gargantuan HTC DNA despite sporting the same size screen thanks to an edge-to-edge screen and minimal wasted space at the top and bottom:
HTC DNA: 141 x 70.5 x 9.7 mm (5.55 x 2.78 x 0.38 in)
Oppo Find 5: 129 x 65 x 6.9 mm (5.08 x 2.56 x 0.27 in) <---smaller than HTC One S
The key here is the middle number, at 65 mm wide, it will be VERY easy to do one handed operations. This is a huge HUGE attraction for me as I'm sick of all these phlabets/phlaptops that HTC, Samsung, LG, and others are producing. Increasing screen size is one thing, but the phones are getting so enormous that it becomes very uncomfortable to use. It's ridiculous.
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It indeed has an SD slot and MHL, and everything else you would need) http://opposj.zol.com.cn/163/1673_1620749.html
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Also as far as I checked fastcardtech.com is a FRAUD. I would not recommend anyone to use them. It's better to wait for a decent US release and find a relative in Sales TAX Free state OR use some well known taobao middlemen.
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Yess!! The 12th of December!!! I'm excited for that. And thanks for clearing that up, I kind of figured but it's good to have a second opinion.
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Looks good on the paper. 1080p for a phone is an overkill if you ask me with today's battery technology. I bet this phone has major draws.
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2500 MaH on a IPS display....it's really on how much you use your phone, because IPS is good on battery consumption, I think.
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I would consider it if the power button were on the side, I almost never use two hands with my phone and this would annoy me to no end.
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Just rechecked photo's, and well I don't find it a big deal. I've used the HD2, LG G2x, and HTC Sensation so if I get this phone it wouldn't be a big change.
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The only thing which bothers me, as a previous Tab 7.7 owner, the lack of software support, I may even sacrifice some hardware stuff for better official or xda community support potential. As far as I see it now the DNA, a major brand product, is nowhere near the Nexus devices in all the development and ROM hacking fuss. Oppo is moving to the global market, thus the good software support is implied but yet to be confirmed.
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Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Since this phone is supporting US Carriers with a breeze, will there be XDA Dev willing to work on this phone? That would also be a plus when getting this pone.
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Actually, the size of the OPPO Find 5 is nowhere near the gargantuan HTC DNA despite sporting the same size screen thanks to an edge-to-edge screen and minimal wasted space at the top and bottom:
HTC DNA: 141 x 70.5 x 9.7 mm (5.55 x 2.78 x 0.38 in)
Oppo Find 5: 129 x 65 x 6.9 mm (5.08 x 2.56 x 0.27 in) <---smaller than HTC One S
The key here is the middle number, at 65 mm wide, it will be VERY easy to do one handed operations. This is a huge HUGE attraction for me as I'm sick of all these phlabets/phlaptops that HTC, Samsung, LG, and others are producing. Increasing screen size is one thing, but the phones are getting so enormous that it becomes very uncomfortable to use. It's ridiculous.
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Whoaahh! Didn't know it was smaller than the OneS! But I knew it was about the size of the DNA. Thanks for doing the conversion!!
The thing I hate, and the LG G2x/O2x did this, was the hardware keys. Why so big? But your right, phones are getting bigger, and bigger is only good for people with big hands. Medium size hands like phones in the range of 4 - 4.7 inches. The DNA did it right by making it longer instead of wider, and I'm glad Oppo is understanding that. Hopefully the S4 and new upcoming phones get it. Keep the big phone size to the Note's.
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It indeed has an SD slot and MHL, and everything else you would need) http://opposj.zol.com.cn/163/1673_1620749.html
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These specs are for a different phone mate.. it clearly states that it refers to a 4.5 inch phone with 720p screen... The dimensions are still impressive to be sure but nowhere near to what a 5 inch would be if they were able to fit it in just 65mm of width. It would imply a total absence of bezel as in *nil*, I don't think such a tech exists yet, true edge to edge is a decade away I'm afraid. I'd be happy to be proved wrong though...
BTW same applies on the existence of micro SD slot, it probably doesn't have one, at least the company doesn't hint that anywhere (sadly microsd slots seem to go the way of the dodo)...
So to recap, "hold on your horses", it'd probably be a thinner slightly cheaper DNA and given that it is a chinaphone I don't think many would be convinced... it's a good offering to be sure but nothing groundbreaking... again I hope to be proved wrong, if I do I would be the first in line to buy this phone (hate phablet sizes, love big screens and big memories)...
I updated the OP. It does not have SD Card but has 16GB and 32GB version! I am thinking of getting this phone
best alternative to nexus 4(?
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best alternative to nexus 4(?
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DEFIANTLY!! The best alternative!! But if you're on AT&T, sorry no LTE
Best? I wouldn't say that at all.
I'm sure from a development state, this device will be lacking heavily. And anything non pure Google.....goog luck with the manufactures keeping you up to date.
Sounds like a sweet device, but it'd still take my gs3 over this all day long.
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Best? I wouldn't say that at all.
I'm sure from a development state, this device will be lacking heavily. And anything non pure Google.....goog luck with the manufactures keeping you up to date.
Sounds like a sweet device, but it'd still take my gs3 over this all day long.
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Well, well my friend, assuming is not good. If you go to oppo's forum they are very well up to date, and current than GS3. They are pure google with little customization to not run it down. Idk about Samsung but 4.2 on Oppo devices are coming in Mid Jan. ALSO I don't know about when a new version of android is coming about but when it does Oppo will surely have it out in 2-3 months tops.
So from a development state, Samsung lacks it heavily, and Samsung lacks pure google. Good luck waiting years on Samsung getting you updates that takes years to update
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Well, well my friend, assuming is not good. If you go to oppo's forum they are very well up to date, and current than GS3. They are pure google with little customization to not run it down. Idk about Samsung but 4.2 on Oppo devices are coming in Mid Jan. ALSO I don't know about when a new version of android is coming about but when it does Oppo will surely have it out in 2-3 months tops.
So from a development state, Samsung lacks it heavily, and Samsung lacks pure google. Good luck waiting years on Samsung getting you updates that takes years to update
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My Verizon galaxy s3 is on 4.2 cm.
I've never had a issue having lots of roms top choose from south any Samsung devices I've had.
I'm saying is I'm not sure the oppo week have much of a following here in the states, if it does it will never have the backing that my gs3 does.
You cannot deny that.
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My Verizon galaxy s3 is on 4.2 cm.
I've never had a issue having lots of roms top choose from south any Samsung devices I've had.
I'm saying is I'm not sure the oppo week have much of a following here in the states, if it does it will never have the backing that my gs3 does.
You cannot deny that.
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This is actually the first Oppo device heading to the United States support T-Mobile, AT&T, and Simple Mobile. It won't get the over rated advertisement like the GS3, but it is definitely a better phone, in my opinion. Official Software updates, better camera, fast, premium product, NFC.
I have nothing against the GS3 besides the width of it, and the material of the phone is plastic. Otherwise its a great phone. But hopefully XDA will have some ROM support on this phone as its coming to the United States.
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This is actually the first Oppo device heading to the United States support T-Mobile, AT&T, and Simple Mobile. It won't get the over rated advertisement like the GS3, but it is definitely a better phone, in my opinion. Official Software updates, better camera, fast, premium product, NFC.
I have nothing against the GS3 besides the width of it, and the material of the phone is plastic. Otherwise its a great phone. But hopefully XDA will have some ROM support on this phone as its coming to the United States.
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Yes a nicer material would be nice, but we all seem to use cases made out of the same material to protect our investment.....so no need to waste extra money on finer materials to cover them up. Nice materials such as glass/aluminum are not add strong or resilient to damage.
I also am not bashing the oppo, seems like a nice phone and the more high end devices, we all win. I'm an android guy, I'm not band stuck, however I'm drawn to Samsung's...HTC is also nice, but on big red they haven't brought anything to the table I would rather have than my gs3. That being said if Verizon would have had the one x I'm not sure which way I would have gone......really nice phone!
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Yes a nicer material would be nice, but we all seem to use cases made out of the same material to protect our investment.....so no need to waste extra money on finer materials to cover them up. Nice materials such as glass/aluminum are not add strong or resilient to damage.
I also am not bashing the oppo, seems like a nice phone and the more high end devices, we all win. I'm an android guy, I'm not band stuck, however I'm drawn to Samsung's...HTC is also nice, but on big red they haven't brought anything to the table I would rather have than my gs3. That being said if Verizon would have had the one x I'm not sure which way I would have gone......really nice phone!
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You made a good point about protecting the investment. But we're just gonna have to wait and see how this Chinese phone makes a impact on how the US will accept this
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I got the new Nexus 7 at Walmart and also picked up the old Nexus in perfect condition from Craigslist for $85. Been spending time working with both side-by-side all morning. My thoughts...
1. The new one seems marginally quicker at some things like swiping between screens in the launcher. That to me is the most noticeable difference, and it's not that big of a change. I am thinking the better graphic acceleration contributes here.
2. I can't tell much difference in the screens. I know there is more resolution, but with my bifocals, I am just fine with the old screen. Saturation on the new screen seems a teeny bit better, but there is also a slight buish tint. I expected to be blown away by the new screen. I'm not.
3. Call me crazy, but I prefer the feel in the hand of the old version. The more rounded edges and the back feel better to me. Can't tell much of a difference in weight, but the new one definitely feels thinner, and the thinness cuts into my palm a bit more. I don't like the thinner bezels at all. And the new one is slightly taller, feels kind of awkwardly shaped.
4. The new tablet takes significantly longer to charge.
5. I couldn't care less about the front camera. Will never use it.
6. Perhaps the deal-killer for me is that the new version has some kind of touchscreen problem. The keyboard gives double-presses, and single touches on buttons (like "accept" in the Play Store) too often requires multiple tries. Anybody else noticing this? Maybe mine is bad?
All-in-all, it looks like the new Nexus 7 has provided a nice opportunity to get the old version cheap for me. After trying both, I don't see a compelling reason to stay with the new one. Just my honest assessment. Your mileage may vary.
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having seen 2 different N7 2013 units already, i'd say the screen is a lottery just like it was with the 1st model. yellow tint, contrast setting and scroll blur will vary on each one. btw i never understood the reviews that go into some major details about the screen, like anandtech for example. don't get me wrong, their reviews are amazing but those screen technicalities are not worth anything seeing how the review unit will be different to any actual unit on the store shelves.
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I got the new Nexus 7 at Walmart and also picked up the old Nexus in perfect condition from Craigslist for $85. Been spending time working with both side-by-side all morning. My thoughts...
1. The new one seems marginally quicker at some things like swiping between screens in the launcher. That to me is the most noticeable difference, and it's not that big of a change. I am thinking the better graphic acceleration contributes here.
2. I can't tell much difference in the screens. I know there is more resolution, but with my bifocals, I am just fine with the old screen. Saturation on the new screen seems a teeny bit better, but there is also a slight buish tint. I expected to be blown away by the new screen. I'm not.
3. Call me crazy, but I prefer the feel in the hand of the old version. The more rounded edges and the back feel better to me. Can't tell much of a difference in weight, but the new one definitely feels thinner, and the thinness cuts into my palm a bit more. I don't like the thinner bezels at all. And the new one is slightly taller, feels kind of awkwardly shaped.
4. The new tablet takes significantly longer to charge.
5. I couldn't care less about the front camera. Will never use it.
6. Perhaps the deal-killer for me is that the new version has some kind of touchscreen problem. The keyboard gives double-presses, and single touches on buttons (like "accept" in the Play Store) too often requires multiple tries. Anybody else noticing this? Maybe mine is bad?
All-in-all, it looks like the new Nexus 7 has provided a nice opportunity to get the old version cheap for me. After trying both, I don't see a compelling reason to stay with the new one. Just my honest assessment. Your mileage may vary.
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1. Do you play graphics/processor intensive games? The new processor crushes the old one. I don't recommend the upgrade if smoother swiping between screens is all you're looking for.
2. Again, if you are content with the old resolution... stick with that. Clearly, the majority of reviewers and myself personally are in love with the screen. When I use my GS3 now, I cringe.
3. That's great that you like the old thickness. Sounds like an issue with your expectations.... Not the device itself.
4. You have a point here.
5. You should have known this prior to buying the device.... How can you be underwhelmed by a feature you already knew you didn't want...
6. Never had this happen on the two 32 g models I've used.
TL;DR You're doing it wrong. Stop hating on the device because your expectations are off... Doesn't sound like what you need out of a tablet demands a new Nexus 7... you can't blame the tablet for that.
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Well the reason it takes longer to charge is the old nexus 7 came with a 2 amp charger and the new one only has a 1.3 amp
I for one LOVE the new screen, if you can't see the difference then your in the minority.
An $85 older Nexus 7 is a great value. Just keep it and return the New Nexus, if you do think it worth the premium to you.
I love everything about the New Nexus 7. It is what I expected from Google/Asus and they delivered. What else do you want them to do at the $229 price point? Google has put in a nice 1080p display, underclocked S600 processor, 2gig of ram, 5ghz wifi and the memory subsystem has been approved over the original. My only real criticism is the lack of SD card slot but that is true for any Google device. This is not the perfect tablet and people have to put their expectations in check.
Can anyone compare another $229 tablet to this one? Even the $400 Note 8 gets beat buy this and I'm a Note 2 owner.
I mean for all that are reading this and don't have one yet the truth is this. Should you upgrade? Hell yes!!!! Now when is the question to you I sold my 16gb gen1 for 170 a week ago came with cases so to spend 40 bucks to get the new one is nothing. Even if its 60 dollars its worth it. Think about how much apple fanboys spend to upgrade every year. The new nexus is better in every way possible.
Now if you happy with the old I understand most people are probably using this for reading stuff so the first one is fine. I just never really liked the first design wise
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I still have yet to see the new Nexus 7. I hadn't used my OG Nexus for probably 2 months and, now that I am again, I'm realizing how "good enough" it is. I'm going to have to see the new one to really convince myself to drop $270 on the 32gb.
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its a good upgrade, still a bit of stagger here and there. they should of went with the snapdragon 600 instead of the s4.
This gen is deff better then last gen i wasnt really liking how it felt on the first one this one feels and looks alot better
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its a good upgrade, still a bit of stagger here and there. they should of went with the snapdragon 600 instead of the s4.
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We already know its not just an S4 pro. Basically a binned and under clocked 600
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I'm not saying the new one isn't better... Just that it isn't $150 better (to me).
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It's underwhelming when you compare it against the high expectations of the first Nexus 7.
The original Nexus 7 made an absolute joke of all the other mfg's 7"-8" tablets at their existing price point. The ONLY reason you'd buy something other than a Nexus 7 was if you wanted micro sd card support - otherwise the specs were no contest. And why should they? Google was working on razor thin margins for the hardware compared to mfgs.
If you go to a box store and look at the new N7, and then look at all the other 7" tablets, everything else is still a joke and it's far from underwhelming. Google stated that they were making a profit on this one, but my guess is that a big part of this is being able to leverage Motorola's buying power/agreements to reduce individual component cost. Best buy is making a 3.5% margin on the new nexus 7 (8-9.4USD). - it barely makes sense to take up the floor space to sell the damn things and I'd wager that most other box retailers are not doing much better.
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It'd be genius if someone from BB knew that staples was running the tablet coupon of $30 off and launched early to cause staples to take a loss on their inventory ($~20 per unit).
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I'm not saying the new one isn't better... Just that it isn't $150 better (to me).
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I can understand that, especially after you mentioned picking up the 2012 Nexus 7 for $85 off Craig's list.
People here are gadget geeks and and spec-mongers, always wanting the latest and greatest (me included). Some of its get a little defensive if someone seen to put down our device of choice.
No I am not underwhelmed overall, but I am by the lack of optimization in the games I care about... The funny thing is the old N7 smokes this devices in both GTA3 and Vice City... go ahead, try and max out the settings, I dare any of you. Now I know this device is significantly more powerful but the bottom line is real world performance and I believe the OP raises a valid point: there isn't a significant difference.
Source: I've owned an N4 since launch (and now an N7.2) and had a friend's OG N7 for a couple weeks when they were out of town.
Yeah maybe the upgrade isn't worth an extra $150 over the 1st gen you just got, but it is still an upgrade and we want the latest and so most people are willing to pay the premium for that.
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This should be consolidated into a single "whine" thread instead of cluttering the forum.
Personally my first gen doesn't come close to touching my new one. Everything is so much faster, smoother and instant. Thanks to the extra RAM it doesn't get crippled when running lots of apps or updating. Can't believe anyone could use both devices and not come away thinking the new one is an upgrade and a half.
Oh, and the screen is flipping fantastic, my GS3 takes a second to get used to when switching directly between the two.
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Well if chime, by the time your ready for an upgrade the og n7 will be worth peanuts
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And updated my Signature.....
I've received attacks left and right & up and down with your defense of the LG G-Pad 8.3. Even though I OWN an G-Pad 8.3..
And I'm running the 2-25 revision of the Mahdi ROM and it's quite frankly IMO the Best & Most Stable ROM for the 8.3 with 100% of everything working flawlessly.
So.. You Tell Me...
Why do so many of you HATE the fact that I ACKNOWLEDGE Samsung's New & Powerful Tab Pro 8.4 to be a Superior Device over the G-Pad 8.3?
Everywhere I mentioned it as an ALTERNATIVE to the established issues of LightBleed.. Blue Line.. Dim & Cloudy 279 Lux Display that one has to accept with the LG G-Pad 8.3 it seem to drive some of you to fits..:laugh:
Why?
The Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 has a Superior CPu.. a Superior GPu.. Superior Resolution and Clarity.. These are FACTS.
So.. I'm really not understanding so many not accepting there is a new King Of The Hill in 8" Class Tablets.
Is it costly? YES! $400.00 Bucks! (The G-Pad was $350.00 the first few weeks as well..) But it's the BEST!
I can surely understand if you say: "Hey it's not for me" I get that... I've owned a Tab 3 8.0 and a Note 8.0.. I hated the physical home button and capacitive keys.. you're always hitting them accidently.. you have to edit the build.prop to shut them down.. Plastic Feel.. I get that..
But this is not about that..
I sense HATERED that the G-Pad only stood for *60 Days* as King of the Hill in 8" Class Android Tablets..
LG HAD A CHANCE TO USE HIGHER END PRODUCTS!.. They chose not to..
So.. Here comes Samsung.. and builds a Superior Tablet. A little bigger.. with much stronger internals and a best in class screen to die for..
Forget YOUR BUDGET for the moment.. What's your Argument that the G-Pad 8.3 even holds a candle to the Tab Pro 8.4?
I welcome discussion & views on these FACTS if you think you have any
Well, there is always going to be a new and better device. I'm sure nobody thinks that they've found the best device for all time. So, probably the Samsung is better in many respects. So, that's about all there is to be said about that.
Anybody here who feels the need to have the latest and greatest will undoubtedly want to consider getting one. If they do, then their best bet is to read about it in the appropriate forum. This forum is directed to people who are interested in the G Pad. You've made people aware of the superior qualities of the Samsung. Best if the discussion continues in the Samsung forum.
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Well, there is always going to be a new and better device. I'm sure nobody thinks that they've found the best device for all time. So, probably the Samsung is better in many respects. So, that's about all there is to be said about that.
Anybody here who feels the need to have the latest and greatest will undoubtedly want to consider getting one. If they do, then their best bet is to read about it in the appropriate forum. This forum is directed to people who are interested in the G Pad. You've made people aware of the superior qualities of the Samsung. Best if the discussion continues in the Samsung forum.
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I respect that comment Woody.
But you see.. when I made mention of the Tab Pro 8.4 it was as a Solution... A new solution to the Old Problems that have plagued the G-Pad 8.3.
I don't own the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4. I have No Plans to sell my 8.3 to purchase a Pro 8.4.. But like I stated somewhere else as I started to get ATTACKED at All Angles, The suggestion of the Pro 8.4 as an option was to help those that come here and read these threads as part of their research when trying to make a decision on which tablet to purchase.
Believe it or not.. people are concerned about getting an 8.3 with LightBleed or the Blue Line.. or the Dim Screen @ 279 Lux.. so they read the forums and try to make a decision not just based on their Hearts.. But their Heads as well.. $250.00 to $400.00 is not throw away money.. And folks should be made aware that no... you don't have to go to Apple's Eco System just to get a "RETINA" like experience.. And neither do you have to Settle for what LG offers with the G-Pad 8.3.
There is another choice... Now.
And it's the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4.
LG had a chance to build this Exact Tablet.. They could have used the same CPu / GPu that Samsung did.. and were certainly capable of fitting the G-Pad 8.3 with a better calibrated screen.. They just chose to sling this out here as you see it.. And ask what a lot of people ( myself included ) felt was a Tablet priced way too high @ $349.00+ Tax.. If I had not found the deal I did at BestBuy on a Saturday I happened to be there and got mine out the door for less than $300.00 I would not have purchased the G-Pad 8.3. I've own 2 Samsung Tablets over the past year and 3 Nexus-7 2013's.. The Tab 3 8.0 and Note 8.0 that I owned had issues I could not live with so I sold / returned them. I love the Nexus 7 2013 on one hand and hate it on the other.. The Support it gets here in the forums is *Un-Equaled*.. But, I cannot live with the 7" screen for more than a week without wanting something bigger..
The LG 8.3 fit the bill in the 3rd Quarter of 2013 at the price point I got it at.. even with it's faults, it was the class leader in 8" Android devices.
That's no longer the case..
And to answer your question about moving the "vs" to the Samsung forum, someone there would say "Move it to the LG forum"
And since the attacks I received came from my own fellow LG 8.3 owners... I'm going to leave it right here.
So.. I'm still waiting as the hours and days pass.. to here HOW outside of Intro Price ( Remember the G-Pad was list @ $350.00+ Tax ) the LG G Pad 8.3 is a Superior Product to the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4..
I should not have been attacked because of those attacker's egos being bruised now that something better has come along.
As a new owner (4hours) I can say this:
I have light bleed)7 leds or whatever), but guess what, it only happens if you turn the screen down so dim its unusable, and have an almost solid white bar 1cm from the side. It doesnt do this if you have it at even a usable brightness in the dark, or if you are using any media. I can only see it in email, and thats only if i have it so dim i cant read it.
Not bright enough... At full brightness it hurts my eyes to look at white text on it, in a room with a 27" monitor and a 30 watt fluorescent light above. I havent tried it out side on a sunny day, but odds are it will suck like everything else.
Battery life... I derped on reddit, watch 600 megs of youtube, and did some heavy surfing, at 55% brightness. I was at 82% in 2 hours.
Screen quality. I cant see a pixel. I dont have the yellow screen, and with that "screen adjuster app" i can get the contrast so i am at least linear to 3-253, ill work on expanding it later, but i have great color and shadow detail. its not really blue or red like the various Ipads ive set side by side.
Also the thing as alot of extra android features that you normally dont get like tap to wake/sleep and the ability to change the battery percent and button arrangement. Though i did have to watch an online review to figure out i had to hold the home key to get to running apps...
Still If we are all paying retail; the gpad is half as fast as an ipad mini on single threads, and the 8.4pro is about double the gpad speed and 50% faster than the ipad mini. The only fault i can see with the 8.4 pro is that is a huge pixel count to deal with a Adreno 330. Thats the same problem the nexus 10 has, the display is at the gpu limit. And a 330 is only 10% faster than the chip in the 2012 nexus 10. Im wondering what the battery life is on the 8.4 pro, with all that horsepower, simular cpu/gpu (just higher clocked) and almost the same battery size.
And in the real world, no i dont see the 8.4pro as an alternative/fix for the gpad. Its at least 40-60% higher in price. Thats like saying my Kia Rio rides rough and has no power, so buy a optima instead.
However I am VERY excited that finally we have competition for the Ipad mini in the form of the 8.4 pro.
Now if we could only get some competition for the full size ipad we would be set, but so far all the high rez stuff for android is 18months old or older.
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Forget YOUR BUDGET for the moment.. What's your Argument that the G-Pad 8.3 even holds a candle to the Tab Pro 8.4?
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nightanole said:
And in the real world, no i dont see the 8.4pro as an alternative/fix for the gpad. Its at least 40-60% higher in price.
However I am VERY excited that finally we have competition for the Ipad mini in the form of the 8.4 pro.
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Feel Free to say whatever is on your mind..
I just ask that you be Accurate in your Arguments..
It's not June 5th 2014.. As of this writing, it's March 5th 2014.. and the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 has only been out a few weeks..
You can not compare the G-Pad's current discounted pricing.. And to be honest.. (it's discounted because of lack of interest).
Let's do some "Accurate" math here:
Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 = $399.00 When first released.
LG G-Pad 8.3 = $349.00 When first released.
That's a 12.53 percent difference in price when both were new..
Give time for discounts to take effect for the Tab Pro 8.4.. and it's still Samsung.. It may sell so well, they won't have to discount it.
But you are correct in your statement that there is now a Worthy Android Device that trumps the iPad Retina Mini at every turn.
I hate the physical home button
I hate the physical home button
and...Sangsung is so ugly.....G pad is handsome
RaiderWill said:
Feel Free to say whatever is on your mind..
I just ask that you be Accurate in your Arguments..
It's not June 5th 2014.. As of this writing, it's March 5th 2014.. and the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 has only been out a few weeks..
You can not compare the G-Pad's current discounted pricing.. And to be honest.. (it's discounted because of lack of interest).
Let's do some "Accurate" math here:
Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 = $399.00 When first released.
LG G-Pad 8.3 = $349.00 When first released.
That's a 12.53 percent difference in price when both were new..
Give time for discounts to take effect for the Tab Pro 8.4.. and it's still Samsung.. It may sell so well, they won't have to discount it.
But you are correct in your statement that there is now a Worthy Android Device that trumps the iPad Retina Mini at every turn.
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Would you agree that price is a major factor though?
kdog350 said:
Would you agree that price is a major factor though?
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Short Answer.. No.
This is not about YOUR BUDGET.. it's not about YOU.
That's why I started this thread... EVERYONE looked at my initial suggestion in a thread not as a viable solution to the issues of the G-Pad 8.3 but as a "Personal Insult" that.. gave premise to me suggesting THEIR purchase of the G-Pad 8.3 was the wrong thing to do. That.. I'm a converted Samsung Fanboy ( or working for Samsung.. ) and I am now the Defector Promoting the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4..
Which if they had looked past their misplaced anger and understood the context of what I was saying, they may have comprehended it better.
Take a long look at the pic I posted..
And tell me that it not "Crystal Clear" which is the better screen.. if you care anything about the long term effects of eye strain I think the choice is obvious..
The Samsung is better.. and when you get down to it.. So is the CPu / GPu.. Bottom Line:
It's a better machine.. If you or I cannot afford it or choose not to pay for the best so be it.
But don't hold price up and say the LG G-Pad 8.3 is a better tablet because right now it's CHEAPER to own.. That may be what YOUR wallet needs to hear..
But without question the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 is the better tablet.
It really all depends on what you do with your tablet. I have the GPad 8.3 and could not be happier, I have no light bleed or blue line issues and am very happy with the screen but I don't do much with my tablet, I watch a few YouTube videos surf the web a bit and play a few simple games so for me the GTab fits my needs. Is the new Samsung better....sure spec wise it is and performance wise as well but the question is do you need those specs? For the money at its current price the GTab 8.3 is a great deal for a very good tablet.
Here in NL, I was comparing between the two, LG G Pad is 299 - the 50 euro cash back LG is offering right now. So 250. The Sammy is 389 (+/-). So, I thought, is it 139 euros better? Ignoring the fact I find hardware buttons lame and as nice as the screen undoubtedly is (I tried them both out in the Media Markt) I just felt for my use case (reading books, playing some games, some youtube) I couldn't justify the extra cost. Just seemed like a waste.
YMMV
Not quite sure why a thread like this needs to even exist. Is the Samsung tab better? Clearly. But the price reflects that, and price is often the most important factor when buying a tablet. If both were only available at full retail, I would spend the extra $50 for the Samsung (actually I would probably not be buying either at those prices), but with the G Pad frequently available at $250 or less, it's a more economical buy for most people.
So yes, because it seems you just want people to say it, money aside the Samsung tab is easily the better tablet. But making the comparison without considering the price is pointless.
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It really all depends on what you do with your tablet. I have the GPad 8.3 and could not be happier, I have no light bleed or blue line issues and am very happy with the screen but I don't do much with my tablet, I watch a few YouTube videos surf the web a bit and play a few simple games so for me the GTab fits my needs. Is the new Samsung better....sure spec wise it is and performance wise as well but the question is do you need those specs? For the money at its current price the GTab 8.3 is a great deal for a very good tablet.
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Here in NL, I was comparing between the two, LG G Pad is 299 - the 50 euro cash back LG is offering right now. So 250. The Sammy is 389 (+/-). So, I thought, is it 139 euros better? Ignoring the fact I find hardware buttons lame and as nice as the screen undoubtedly is (I tried them both out in the Media Markt) I just felt for my use case (reading books, playing some games, some youtube) I couldn't justify the extra cost. Just seemed like a waste.
YMMV
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I Know It's Hard...
To not inject our Personal Usage habits into our feelings... But that is not the Gist of this casual comparision.
That's why I mentioned in the OP.. "Excluding Price". Again the reason I started this thread was because of the attacks when I mentioned in couple of other threads that the Tab Pro 8.4 offers a "New Alternative" to putting up with the faults of the G-Pad 8.3..
I ask someone to tell me HOW the LG G-Pad 8.3 was *BETTER* than the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4
I Don't See It.
You can't argue CPu / GPu... and you certainly cannot argue Screen Resolution & Clarity.. As I've stated Samsung wins by a knockout.
It's the 8" Class Leader and our Strongest Representative to once and for all show Apple who's boss
You see.. I'm not a fanboy of either LG or Samsung. I'm a fan of ANDROID.. And for now.. Nothing in the 8" Class is Superior to the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4.
And... Can you even imagine.. When it's Stripped of it's 1.5 Gig Bulk (A.K.A. Touchwiz) and given a nice light 200 MB ROM like Mahdi.. Carbon.. Pac-Man... Slim...
And a Overclocking Kernel like Faux.. Franco.. or (my favorite) ElementalX ?...
That Tab Pro 8.4 running @ 2,400 - 2,500 mHz is going to FLY! And still have best in class Screen as Icing on the Cake..
It is what it is.. Don't forget I also own an 8.3.. running Mahdi it's doing fine.. but I'm not sticking my head in the sand and refusing to Acknowledge the New Class Leader in the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4.. If you are loyal to LG, then hope Samsung's accomplishment kicks LG in the butt come this fall and they respond with their Maximum Effort and use the best internals available next time around.
So what are you trying to prove at this point? That the Samsung Tab Pro is the superior tablet? Because pretty much everyone in this thread has already admitted that.
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So what are you trying to prove at this point? That the Samsung Tab Pro is the superior tablet? Because pretty much everyone in this thread has already admitted that.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUq-qA2-2Ds
Its kinda funny, Other than the screen, its a spec race, aka 99% of people cant tell the difference between the 2 tablets when using them.
In the video, they have the the gpad set to a diff nits than the samsung, and both look like crap for color when you view the video on a calibrated display. The gpad is too dim and yellow, and the samsung is too blue and too over exposed. Its just a bad review to not have both tablets at the same brightness, and im pretty sure the video camera they used auto corrected the color because it thought the samsung was a florescent light.
yes the gpad is dim and yes the samsung is bright, but there is a massive overlap that the reviewer didnt use.
LG Is Slipping Fast.....
Man...
Really LG??? This is what you are coming to? Not Good. Not Good At All.. This is the STUPIDEST video I've ever seen to sell product. :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WohB8WDYCZ0
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Man...
Really LG??? This is what you are coming to? Not Good. Not Good At All.. This is the STUPIDEST video I've ever seen to sell product. :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WohB8WDYCZ0
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Wow, that has to be one of the most obnoxious videos that is selling a product. Absolutely terrible lol
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wow, that has to be one of the most obnoxious videos that is selling a product. Absolutely terrible lol
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lucky_goldstar!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi, I am looking to buy a 8" tablet next week and was pondering between these two. To be fair, I just need it for games, youtube and a few occasional games so the G Pad would suffice for me hardware wise, but I am concerned about the screen issues and the update support. Are the screen issues limited to a few batches or is it widespread? Also, will LG provide any future updates or will there be any development here?
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Hi, I am looking to buy a 8" tablet next week and was pondering between these two. To be fair, I just need it for games, youtube and a few occasional games so the G Pad would suffice for me hardware wise, but I am concerned about the screen issues and the update support. Are the screen issues limited to a few batches or is it widespread? Also, will LG provide any future updates or will there be any development here?
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The screen issues are:
yellow if its a really fresh unit that the bonding glue isnt completly cured. It normaly goes away in 24-48 hours of use.
blue line. Yea that sucks and needs rma'd
light bleed. it happens on all units, It happens when you turn the brightness down below 25%, which is so dim it makes the tablet unusable.
So far new batches havent had these problems with the yellow and blue line.
Mine is not yellow, a 311 serial. It does have the "light bleed" if i manualy turn down the brightness to 20%, and have an all white image for the first cm of the display. i cant see while viewing pictures or games.
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Are the screen issues limited to a few batches or is it widespread? Also, will LG provide any future updates or will there be any development here?
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Mine is fine.
I don't have any statistics for you, but one tends not to hear from people who have nothing to complain about.
A kitkat update seems to be on its way, but I wouldn't expect anything after that.
"Google Pixel C 10.2" Tablet With 308ppi, Detachable Keyboard, Lightbar, And Android Marshmallow Coming Later This Year"
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Specs:
10.2-inch 2560 x 1800 308 PPI touch display with a brightness level of 500 nits
Tegra X1 processor with Maxwell GPU
32 or 64 GB storage
3GB RAM
Android 6.0 Marshmallow
Price:
32 GB - $499
62 GB - $599
Keyboard
$149
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Fool me twice google?
It has a 10.2in, 308ppi screen with a bright backlight capable of 500 nits. It is powered by an Nvidia X1 quad-core processor with 3GB of RAM and a Maxwell desktop-class GPU.
Should I start taking bets on full OpenGL 4.X support?
I would sell my N9 at a huge loss in a heartbeat if I thought the PixelC would have full library support for the X1 from Nvidia. :crying:
So, why don't call the Pixel C-> Pixel Nexus?. It's Google thinking of leave the Nexus Tablet program, or they're just waiting to release a better product?.
I only just bought the Nexus 9 during HTC's most recent 40% of sale both because of the good price AND because I thought that there was no new tablets from Google this year.
If the Pixel C isn't called a Nexus, even though it runs Android, it probably means that it won't be running strictly AOSP. On the positive side, maybe this means it will have vendor-proprietary performance optimizations. On the negative side, it might not be as developer-friendly as a Nexus.
nVidia chipset? Yeah, good luck with those updates.
kinda funny how everybody is suddenly slapping a keyboard onto their tablets haha
I've used the surface and other convertibles before, having a detachable keyboard really is not all good, and if you really consider getting work done on the road a laptop would almost be better in every way possible
but there has to be target audience who will want to have those, I'm just wondering who?
also, I'm interested in the price, whether it will be priced like a nexus or like a pixel
This is the first Google tablet that has caught my attention in quite some time. Although, I sort of wish it was going to be released with 4GB ram. Perhaps 3GB is enough though...
EDIT: Does Android Marshmallow have improved RAM management? I was just reading how you can now view how the RAM is being used app by app but wasn't sure if how the OS actually handles RAM management has changed any.
Let's see here...
nvidia tegra SoC.... yep.. won't even consider buying this thing.
Seriously though, what kind of productivity can we expect to do on an Android tablet?
The only thing I can think of is Microsoft's office apps.
From personal experience, a cheap intel powered chromebook is way batter for productivity than an Android tablet.
darkchazz said:
Let's see here...
nvidia tegra SoC.... yep.. won't even consider buying this thing.
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What is so horrible about the Nvidia Tegra X1?
michaelearth said:
What is so horrible about the Nvidia Tegra X1?
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I can't say anything about the X1.
But previous Tegras were hyped by nvidia yet mostly failed to deliver.
Latest being the K1 Denver in the Nexus 9. Benchmark scores are off the roof but performance in day-to-day usage is nowhere near as good.
Power consumption is also quite high and the chip heats up like crazy once you start doing anything more than just scrolling through pages.
best tablet for me for heaving gaming
Is this a joke? No stylus support, no mention of improved software interface for tablets. How is this different from a Samsung Tab S2 with a cheap 40 dollars Bluetooth keyboard?
True to that. I bought a Nexus 9 about half a year ago but sold it again 1 month ago. It can be razor fast however I feel the OS (kernel?) is badly optimised to properly support the powerful processor. The Nexus 9 felt laggy most of the time. At 1 point it bugged me so much I sold it off again. Felt like a beast in a cage
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So, why don't call the Pixel C-> Pixel Nexus?. It's Google thinking of leave the Nexus Tablet program, or they're just waiting to release a better product?.
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Google actually manufactures the Pixel line. They are typically made with stellar quality, design, and materials (and generally priced to match). Nexus devices are manufactured by other companies (LG, Asus, etc). They are made in partnership with Google and offer the clean Android experience. They're also typically very reasonably priced for the hardware offered (the N6 being the exception).
Here is the spec sheet for the Tegra X1 "Super Chip"
It is a 64-bit octa-core processor, according to Nvidia, with an Nvidia 256-core Maxwell GPU and full DX-12 and OpenGL 4.5 Support
darkchazz said:
I can't say anything about the X1.
But previous Tegras were hyped by nvidia yet mostly failed to deliver.
Latest being the K1 Denver in the Nexus 9. Benchmark scores are off the roof but performance in day-to-day usage is nowhere near as good.
Power consumption is also quite high and the chip heats up like crazy once you start doing anything more than just scrolling through pages.
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Ehh, makes me wonder if you actually own the Flounder or if you're just going based off of what you read on the internet lol.
I've got zero issues with power consumption or heat dissipation with my Nexus 9 (Flounder). :laugh:
So all the kiddies in this thread led to me having no choice but to post, as I have been saying this for months over on G+. If you are having any "issues" with the Nexus 9, it is the way you are going about it, and not the tablet. As @NYCHitman1 can attest, the Nexus 9 is very battery efficient, and mine (at least) NEVER overheats, or even gets close to a point where i would consider it "hot". I get about a MONTH of standby time, and routinely see over 10 hours of screen on time when streaming media, and close to 6 hours of SOT when gaming. Never once has it heated up doing either. I love my Nexus 9, and the only way I would consider going with ANYTHING else, would be if Google decided to release another 10 inch Nexus (f the Pixel). I want the ability to let developers improve my device, I want the bigger screen size (after using the N9 for almost a year, I could never go back to a 7 inch screen like my Flo had), and I want to be able to rely on my tablet having battery left even if I don't charge it for a couple days. In my opinion, the Flounder is leaps and bounds an improvement over the 2013 Nexus 7, and I think Google hit a homerun with it. Just my lousy two cents. (Also, I just recently got 900+ hours of Up Time on my N9, with no lag issues, no freezing, and no dip in performance. The attached screenshot is with about 650 hours of Up Time, and it was still going like a champ)
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kinda funny how everybody is suddenly slapping a keyboard onto their tablets haha
I've used the surface and other convertibles before, having a detachable keyboard really is not all good, and if you really consider getting work done on the road a laptop would almost be better in every way possible
but there has to be target audience who will want to have those, I'm just wondering who?
also, I'm interested in the price, whether it will be priced like a nexus or like a pixel
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Personally, I will never buy another 10"+ Android tablet that doesn't have at least an option for a keyboard dock. Ever since my Asus T101, I absolutely must have a keyboard dock for any "large" Android tablet. I'm currently using an HP Slatebook 10 x2, which I LOVE. It's super fast, has a great keyboard dock and it just a great device (love the stereo front-facing speakers too!). ANd you can find the Slatebook for about $200 brand new (with keyboard dock).
The problem with this Google device is that they keyboard dock doesn't have a trackpad, any special function keys, a battery in the keyboard dock, etc - it's just missing way to much functionality that a tablet with a keyboard dock should have (the Slatebook x2 has all of this, plus a full sized USB port, full sized HDMI port, etc).
Even when I'm sitting in front of my PC at home, I still use my Slatebook x2 for everything! Android apps just allow you do things so much quicker than using a web browser - and the keyboard dock makes typing a breeze. Love having the extra battery in the keyboard dock as well....
I also have an Asus T100 (Windows 10 tablet/keyboard dock), but it's nowhere near as useful as my Slatebook x2 for day-to-day tasks. Even the T100 is only $200!
I would love a tablet with a REAL keyboard dock from Google, but this device just isn't it...
Just my two cents!
Sent from my HP SlateBook 10 x2 PC using Tapatalk 2
NYCHitman1 said:
Ehh, makes me wonder if you actually own the Flounder or if you're just going based off of what you read on the internet lol.
I've got zero issues with power consumption or heat dissipation with my Nexus 9 (Flounder). :laugh:
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I have the 32gb white WiFi variant since release back in November. And before that, a Tegra 3 powered 2012 Nexus 7.
Performance of the Nexus 9 has been fine for me.
It can be amazingly fast at times, then there are some occasional stutters
But unless all I do is read books and documents on it, I could never get more than ~5 hour SoT.
The SoC gets quite hot, felt on the back near the camera, on a daily basis for me, especially when browsing the web.
Hello.
I've had a LG G2 for 2.5 years and it's been a great phone. Unfortunately I'm starting to have issues with the microphone and the phone probably needs to be replaced in the not too distant future.
I am currently in a situation where I honestly am not in a rush to buy a new phone, I prefer to have the latest and greatest (because it generally holds up better over the years) and I want a phone that'll serve me for another 2-3 years.
The Nexus 6P has a lot going for it, the display, the stereo speakers, the buttery smooth UI, sleek design and fingerprint scanner.
On the flip side, I find it a bit too big (but I can manage it) and I'm worried about how well the phone will age. I don't have much faith in the Snapdragon 810. Is it still worth buying or am I better off waiting for the next generation?
The Nexus 6p costs $630 here. I've had a look at the newest 2016 flagships and only HTC 10 caught my attention, but the price of the phone is an outrageous $830 and I cannot justify spending so much.
So, should I hop on the Nexus 6P wagon or wait for the next generation?
I'd say for you to wait. But for what? I don't see any flagships phones to be announced. Don't know. Maybe the next Nexus? Surely will be a few months away.
The CPU is not that important. At least for me. If I'd buy the Nexus 6P at this time. Probably yes, for the price and updates.
I upgraded last month to a 6P but that's because my N5 was on it's last legs and there was a sale ($500 for a 64GB 6P and they throw in a $50 gift card so it's effectively $450).
I would have waited for a 820-based 6P but it's unclear if Google will really release such a beast. I wanted a Nexus device to ensure updates for a few years so I ended pulling the trigger on the 6P when the sale was announced.
vPro97 said:
Hello.
I've had a LG G2 for 2.5 years and it's been a great phone. Unfortunately I'm starting to have issues with the microphone and the phone probably needs to be replaced in the not too distant future.
I am currently in a situation where I honestly am not in a rush to buy a new phone, I prefer to have the latest and greatest (because it generally holds up better over the years) and I want a phone that'll serve me for another 2-3 years.
The Nexus 6P has a lot going for it, the display, the stereo speakers, the buttery smooth UI, sleek design and fingerprint scanner.
On the flip side, I find it a bit too big (but I can manage it) and I'm worried about how well the phone will age. I don't have much faith in the Snapdragon 810. Is it still worth buying or am I better off waiting for the next generation?
The Nexus 6p costs $630 here. I've had a look at the newest 2016 flagships and only HTC 10 caught my attention, but the price of the phone is an outrageous $830 and I cannot justify spending so much.
So, should I hop on the Nexus 6P wagon or wait for the next generation?
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The other device to look at would be the Moto X Pure.
Processor is slower but here in the states a 64GB version for $399.
Another option came up, the Samsung Galaxy S7 for $680 - so $50 more.
The S7 has a lot going for it, like the more wieldy size, better display, good camera, waterproofing (which is more of a nice-to-have sort of thing). On the other hand I will be missing out on the quick Android updates and the stock android experience and I will get the TouchWiz UI, which I don't mind (I've been living with G2's UI for 2.5 years which isn't much better...) and I'll be missing out on the stereo speakers.
The Moto X Style is really nice, but if the SD 810 has me worried, how about the 808? I like the looks of the Moto X Style but the SD 808 and bad battery life is a deal breaker, even at the $420 price tag.
Had to get the 6P for Fi. Happy with it. I was holding out for I/O 2016 in hopes they would announce a mid year fresh with better CPU but no such thing happened. Oh well. This phone is pretty chill for me.
vPro97 said:
Hello.
I've had a LG G2 for 2.5 years and it's been a great phone. Unfortunately I'm starting to have issues with the microphone and the phone probably needs to be replaced in the not too distant future.
I am currently in a situation where I honestly am not in a rush to buy a new phone, I prefer to have the latest and greatest (because it generally holds up better over the years) and I want a phone that'll serve me for another 2-3 years.
The Nexus 6P has a lot going for it, the display, the stereo speakers, the buttery smooth UI, sleek design and fingerprint scanner.
On the flip side, I find it a bit too big (but I can manage it) and I'm worried about how well the phone will age. I don't have much faith in the Snapdragon 810. Is it still worth buying or am I better off waiting for the next generation?
The Nexus 6p costs $630 here. I've had a look at the newest 2016 flagships and only HTC 10 caught my attention, but the price of the phone is an outrageous $830 and I cannot justify spending so much.
So, should I hop on the Nexus 6P wagon or wait for the next generation?
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oh man we are in the exact same situation here ! literally ! G2 802 owner here. i was running exodus 6.0.1. it will keep you going for a little while but with lack of good camera features. i will be pulling the trigger on the 6p soon. it costs 594$ here if bought from play devices (play store), but in third party e commerce sites its about 475.. the prices will drop soon. currently its at its lowest price here. once it hits the 400$ barrier im picking it up for sure ! guaranteed updates for next 2-3 years officially another thought is that . what if the next nexus is actually cheaper than the current 6p ? (in terms of initial pricing). itll be like we bought the old device for just 10-15$ more or something.. hence till my g2 is going good, i can keep it on hold. i suggest you do the same . head over to cheapass.in , here you can track prices of the links posted from e commerce sites and it will tell mail you to inform you the price drop ive been following the 6p for a while now.
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If I would to buy it now I would do it. I got mine in January and no had no problems with it at all. i get good battery life and with the improvements android N it will be better in my opinion. I been using a V10 a few weeks as I got it for my backup/media phone since it has a sd card and while i like it especially cause the camera will be great for the future...i returned back to the 6P yesterday and i forgot how much i love it. great screen and i forgot how awesome those speakers are. the moto x pure might be a little better but still the 6P speakers are great. my only gripe is that i wish google would be a damn sd card slot but i know it will never happen but i can dream.
I came over from a G2 and haven't regretted it for a minute.
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Just had to retire my G2 D800 due to screen ghost touches. Got the 6p. Bigger but loving it so far. Not really a phone gamer, just calls, texts, and read news articles. Battery is amazing. 6-7 hours SOT.
redpirate8 said:
Just had to retire my G2 D800 due to screen ghost touches. Got the 6p. Bigger but loving it so far. Not really a phone gamer, just calls, texts, and read news articles. Battery is amazing. 6-7 hours SOT.
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Would love to know how you're managing that... I'm lucky to get over 4 hours on anything from stock to custom ROMs and kernels with Greenify, Xposed, etc. Never play games, only browsing, texting, music, and small YouTube bits here and there. My battery life has never been that great on any device like some people claim.
Only rooted. Ad blocker installed. Disabled all non essential Google apps (Chrome, Drive, Movies and TV, Books, Games, and Photos). I use Tinfoil for Facebook instead of the stock app and Opera Mini. I don't need emails delivered immediately so all syncing is turned off. And turned off Googles 'Back up my data' in Backup and Reset since there seems to be a bug with it eating away battery in some of the other forums. I don't need Google Now and disabled the voice activation in Search. At this very moment, I've got 7.5 SOT with 12% battery left.
We are literaly in the same exact situation, I've had my G2 for about 2 years now and I recently rooted it and flashed Google Edition 1.5 ROM + Dorimanx kernel which kinda revived my phone and Its now way smoother with better battery life, that being said I cant see myself keeping this phone after the summer's done and I've been looking for a potential replacement. The HTC 10 looks perfect on paper: similar size, better specs, better build quality but since it just came out Its too expensive for me, looking at last year's flagships the nexus 6p seems the best of the lot but it's just so damn big and my hands are kinda small. At this point I really cant decide if I should get a 6P in like August or wait a year or so until I can afford the HTC 10.Btw if anybody knows some other reasonably priced 5.2-5.3 inch phone with atleast 3 gigs of ram and a cpu equivalent to a 810 please let me know.
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We are literaly in the same exact situation, I've had my G2 for about 2 years now and I recently rooted it and flashed Google Edition 1.5 ROM + Dorimanx kernel which kinda revived my phone and Its now way smoother with better battery life, that being said I cant see myself keeping this phone after the summer's done and I've been looking for a potential replacement. The HTC 10 looks perfect on paper: similar size, better specs, better build quality but since it just came out Its too expensive for me, looking at last year's flagships the nexus 6p seems the best of the lot but it's just so damn big and my hands are kinda small. At this point I really cant decide if I should get a 6P in like August or wait a year or so until I can afford the HTC 10.Btw if anybody knows some other reasonably priced 5.2-5.3 inch phone with atleast 3 gigs of ram and a cpu equivalent to a 810 please let me know.
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I had an HTC 10, 6P, and S7 Edge all at the same time. I currently only have the 6P and S7 Edge - trying to decide which to keep.
The 10 was a good phone. But here's what killed it for me... the LCD and the size, mostly. The LCD is great for an LCD. But it's still an LCD, and it's terrible compared to OLED. The 6P and S7E are just so much better to look at, even in sRGB modes where they aren't oversaturated. Having pure black is something most people don't appreciate until they see it on a 55"+ TV in front of them. I have a $4,000 4K OLED TV, and I can never go back. The same holds true with even a small smartphone display - you use the display more than anything. It better look damn good. Also, even if I could get past the contrast, there were 2 other major issues I had with it. Number 1, the motion blur was TERRIBLE! It might not actually be that bad in the LCD world, but OLED has practically instant pixel response. That in itself removes a LOT of motion blur until we get 120+Hz smartphone panels - it's coming, just you wait! Also, the 10's display had a pink/red tint to it, 24/7. Holding it next to the 6P or S7E, this was obvious. And after years of having large phablets, I really couldn't go back to using a 5.2" screen.
Everything else about the 10 is something to love. The design is incredible. The camera is great. The DAC/amp are great. The speakers were great. The speed of the device, the factory go-ahead to root/unlock, the fingerprint sensor, the feel in the hand... all awesome. But none of these good qualities could make up for its worst, and that was the display.
vPro97 said:
Hello.
I've had a LG G2 for 2.5 years and it's been a great phone. Unfortunately I'm starting to have issues with the microphone and the phone probably needs to be replaced in the not too distant future.
I am currently in a situation where I honestly am not in a rush to buy a new phone, I prefer to have the latest and greatest (because it generally holds up better over the years) and I want a phone that'll serve me for another 2-3 years.
The Nexus 6P has a lot going for it, the display, the stereo speakers, the buttery smooth UI, sleek design and fingerprint scanner.
On the flip side, I find it a bit too big (but I can manage it) and I'm worried about how well the phone will age. I don't have much faith in the Snapdragon 810. Is it still worth buying or am I better off waiting for the next generation?
The Nexus 6p costs $630 here. I've had a look at the newest 2016 flagships and only HTC 10 caught my attention, but the price of the phone is an outrageous $830 and I cannot justify spending so much.
So, should I hop on the Nexus 6P wagon or wait for the next generation?
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Is stock Android a must for you? If the answer is no, then there are already better phones out and more on the way if you want to wait a bit longer.
Also, I know people here don't want to hear this again, but I have severe doubts that the 6P is a 2-3 year phone. It's just not built that way unfortunately to be completely honest. I would keep that in mind while you decide.
No phone is a 2-3 year phone. And if there's one it's the 6P because of the updates policy. Samsung is surely out of the equation in that matter.
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No phone is a 2-3 year phone. And if there's one it's the 6P because of the updates policy. Samsung is surely out of the equation in that matter.
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Tell Apple, Samsung, LG users, etc that. There are plenty of 2-3 year capable phones out there. How many 2-3 year users there are is an entirely different question.
I still know plenty of people out there with iPhone 4s, 5, Galaxy S4, S5, LG G2 & G3's out there. And not to leave Nexus users out, I still know people with Nexus 5's out there.
So I wouldn't say there isn't one out there. And in my opinion, the 6P won't be one of them. There are already too many threads with issues. Only time will tell on the 6P.
So you had severe doubts that the 6P was a 2-3 year phone, but now you're quoting a bunch of them. I think you're a bit confused.
Any phone can be a 2-3 year phone. Just depends how much the person is a tech fanatic and appreciates the latest and greatest. My buddy is using an S5 still... I couldn't do it, but he never complains.
I've had the 6P for about 6 months and have been very satisfied with it. Coming from the Nexus 5 I was also worried about the size but I got used to it quickly. I'm not sure I would want anything bigger though. If you're wanting a Nexus you could wait for the next one but you never know what they'll do next. I bought my Nexus 5 when I realized the then soon to be released Nexus 6 was going to be so huge.
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