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Samsung Galaxy S2 (I9200) - Real or Fake

After the launch of Samsung Galaxy S, hardly after 15 days we noticed rumors started from a russian sites that its predecessor is already in development with following specs:
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- OS: Google 3.0 Gingerbread
- 4.3-inch 2-Super AMOLED display with 1280x720 resolution
- 1080p Full HD video recording
- 2 GHz processor
- 32 GB of internal memory, a slot for MicroSD memory cards up to 32 GB
- 1 GB RAM, 4 GB ROM
- Battery: 2000 mAh
- 8-megapixel camera with autofocus and HD video recording
- 3.5 mm audio jack
- A-GPS, Accelerometer, gyroscope, proximity sensor, ambient light sensor
- Google Service (Android Market, Google Search, Google Maps, Gmail, Google Talk, YouTube)
some say that this phone will b available in 2011. other says this might hit the market on Christmas.
Guys. i want to know what do u think about it. is it true or fan gone crazy.

Looks like a real killer if we go by specifications alone. Looks extremely tempting to me. Not sure how real though.

and ive noticed most of rumors about samsung mobiles from russian sources turn out to be true. fingers crossed this time

fayeznoor said:
and ive noticed most of rumors about samsung mobiles from russian sources turn out to be true. fingers crossed this time
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I was going to bring up the Russian accuracy thing, they had an accurate Bada phone preview that included the Wave and the next announced devices.
I think this is ahead of their processor roadmap, and even so I still think whatever they use is likely to be designed and made in-house.
I think this is true or close to true, but part of that is definitely wishful thinking. If it's not completely true, it's probably close to right, and we will probably get an announcement around the holidays so they can get people to hold off on buying a new phone from a competitor. If this has a 2000 mAh battery I'd break my SGS contract to get one.

It's fake. 2Ghz ARM in a consumer device is a pipe dream right now.
Plus Samsung have invested heavily in ramping up production of the Galaxy S, they're not going to cripple sales just as they complete their roll-out.

I could see that happening in about a years time. Anyone could really guess those specs... I definitely wouldn't hold my breath for it though. Better to just get the GS now if you want a good phone.
Also I believe that 4.3 screen is too large for a phone, as it becomes almost unpocketable.

Read this:
http://briefmobile.com/samsung-i9200-galaxy-s2-is-probably-a-fake

it'll need to carry a pretty thick battery. or the battery life is pretty bad.
unless they miraculously came up with some better type of battery.

Definitely wouldn't come out for Christmas, it would canibalize i9000 sales. Just like TravUK said they'd probably work towards rolling out the i9000 to the max.
Regarding the battery, if they come up with new processor architecture or screen technology like some advanced super amoled, that could help a lot two

I would come right back to Android for a device like this or one like it made by HTC. Regardless, I have no doubt we are going to see much better devices from most of, if not all of the majors by Dec (or least full specs of soon to be released phones by Dec).
If you're stuck in a new 2 year right now and you can't or don't want to pay up to get out, you'll be feeling the burn in 4 months; such is the speed of phone tech these days.

I'll not be surprised if it's true.
In fact i was waiting for something like this to come out.
Unfortunately I needed a NEW phone NOW like yesterday, so from the crop of current available best phone was the SGS i9000, and that's what i purchased.
I'm quite sure if that 2Ghz phone makes it to the market next year, it'll cost over $1500+
That thing is essentially a PC inside a phone case.
4.3" screens are huge, most people will not like it in their pocket.
my old HTC Athena has a 5" screen and.... THAT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR REASON why i switched back to a slightly smaller screen like the one on the SGS i9000
anything larger than 4" is very uncomfortable in the front pocket of your jeans, or shirt as most of these phones now in days pack quite a bit of weight to it, although the SGS i9000 is OK, not too heavy.
in the past i choosed the HTC Athena for the 5" screen for movies and stuff, because i used to sit a lot in the Subway, and Buses, it was great, but it sucks when you want to go to say Theme park, and go on a roller coaster and stuff like that.
That's why i switched back to a smaller phone.
fayeznoor said:
After the launch of Samsung Galaxy S, hardly after 15 days we noticed rumors started from a russian sites that its predecessor is already in development with following specs:
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- OS: Google 3.0 Gingerbread
- 4.3-inch 2-Super AMOLED display with 1280x720 resolution
- 1080p Full HD video recording
- 2 GHz processor
- 32 GB of internal memory, a slot for MicroSD memory cards up to 32 GB
- 1 GB RAM, 4 GB ROM
- 8-megapixel camera with autofocus and HD video recording
- 3.5 mm audio jack
- A-GPS, Accelerometer, gyroscope, proximity sensor, ambient light sensor
- Google Service (Android Market, Google Search, Google Maps, Gmail, Google Talk, YouTube)
some say that this phone will b available in 2011. other says this might hit the market on Christmas.
Guys. i want to know what do u think about it. is it true or fan gone crazy.
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I'll probably sell the SGS i9000 and get that one when it comes out, if it's real, and when if it does actually hits the market

AllGamer said:
4.3" screens are huge, most people will not like it in their pocket.
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That's just not true for everyone. My Evo and it's 4.3 screen to me is the perfect phone size aside from it being a bit too thick. Take a look at the SGS and how it, like the iPhone do not use a lot of the front space above and below the screen. Now take a look at other phones such as the Evo and how it has a screen that takes up more of the front space. Holding the Captivate in hand along side the Evo yesterday and the difference in size is very small and really comes down to the Evo being thicker than I'd like. I can place the Evo in my shirt pocket just as I do with the iPhone now.

AshMa said:
That's just not true for everyone. My Evo and it's 4.3 screen to me is the perfect phone size aside from it being a bit too thick.
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that's the problem most of the phones that has larger than 4" screens are too thick, and heavy, both usually due the battery, and other internal components that makes up for the lost space inside the phone.
one of the reason why i like the SGS i9000 so much is because of that, i found it surprising for a 4" phone to be this thin, got tired of carrying a thick 5" phone with me all the time

AllGamer said:
that's the problem most of the phones that has larger than 4" screens are too thick, and heavy, both usually due the battery, and other internal components that makes up for the lost space inside the phone.
one of the reason why i like the SGS i9000 so much is because of that, i found it surprising for a 4" phone to be this thin, got tired of carrying a thick 5" phone with me all the time
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I'm guessing that you haven't picked up an Evo before? It was thick to me but most owners of it thought I was crazy for thinking its a little too thick. The Evo is thick because of the 4G radio and other components; NOT because of the screen size.
And come on now, a 5" phone like the one you had, or the new Dell are in a different class which doesn't include 4.3 inch devices like the Evo. Remember the size is measured from the bottom left corner to the top right corner of the screen. Seriously, Google for side by side images and you'll see what I'm talking about when I say that a 4.3" device like the Evo, is not much bigger than the SGS. BTW' The HD2 I have is a very thin phone yet it has the exact same 4.3" Evo screen......
My dream phone would look a lot like the Evo and be the same size only a bit thinner and have a flush camera lens (with a powered lens door) along with having the iPhone 4 screen (in 4.3" of course) and at least Android 2.2 while waiting for 3.0. 1ghz or 1.5 Samsung CPU, 16GB internal with SD card supprt and all the other goodies we all love.......

2Ghz CPU in a phone is not really viable as 99% of the time the phone sits on 200-400Mhz for power efficiency anyways. I'd rather see a dual core 1 to 1.2ghz CPU instead, so that twice the work is done in the lower, more power efficient Mhz range.

cheetah2k said:
2Ghz CPU in a phone is not really viable as 99% of the time the phone sits on 200-400Mhz for power efficiency anyways. I'd rather see a dual core 1 to 1.2ghz CPU instead, so that twice the work is done in the lower, more power efficient Mhz range.
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battery is rumored to be 2000mAh

I too had an HTC Athena, and loved it fiercely at the time when everyone else only had 2.8 inch screen tiny phones. If time is to go back to 2007 I'll still make the same choice. I'm into big screen phones which is in my mind the only real attraction of looking outside iphone.
Of course, today I would never want something as thick, big, and heavy as Athena anymore. Our yardstick for acceptability should change as technology moves forward rather than stay static.
The hugh battery need too drive such a PC (as one of us calls it) might be too heavy. So, I'll wait till the final spec to become available before deciding. By then there may be a 4.3 inch iphone too.

I'll start believing in 2GHz phones when anyone makes a 2GHz ARM SoC. Qualcomm just recently introduced a 1.3Ghz 45nm Snapdragon, and they were the first to bring a 1Ghz ARM-based SoC to market, so I doubt anyone is substantially ahead and about to release one that runs at twice the current speeds. ARM SoCs have definitely not advanced at such speeds in the past - they were hovering around 600MHz at peak for a long time.
Also, an updated version of Super AMOLED so soon, when it's only on a couple of devices? And along with it, a resolution that's higher than any other Android phone? I don't see this turning up soon.
So it has a CPU that doesn't exist yet, a screen that also doesn't exist yet, twice the RAM/ROM/storage and 25% more battery capacity than the Galaxy S, and an improved camera. Sounds like a wish-list to me.

natsirt789 said:
Read this:
http://briefmobile.com/samsung-i9200-galaxy-s2-is-probably-a-fake
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I don't think this is well written. First, the processor is definitely the most suspect thing, I'll give them that. However, the talk about the naming convention and the Samsung Super AMOLED, but I don't think they know much about the tech behind it. If they can make a AMOLED with 720p, then the SAMOLED wont be that much development, it's in their development process that they just eliminate a layer of touch and put it into the screen, the real hard part is making 720p, but they've been working on this for a long time, to think because they just shipped their first devices with it doesn't mean much to me, personally, but what do I know?
Saying 4.3 is the sweetspot, I can't disgaree with more, they are trying to compete with HTC and Moto and all the others, they could care less if 50% of the market wants 4", 10% want 3.5" 20% want 3.7" and 15% want 4.3"...they want to grow and they can afford to make 4.3" screens since they can use it in other devices in the future.
I won't get started on the naming convention, because that is subject to change and just a dumb point of arguing. Perhaps their naming convention is based on how long it took to make a follow up, then 9200 is perfect.
Also, to those who say this will cannibalize sales, they would be different class devices and this would be more profitable. They'd love to partially cannibalize sales in order to get the highest-end, most profitable device into as many hands as possible. HTC is growing and growing fast with this strategy, Samsung would love to emulate it, if they can.
All that said, again, I don't think this is really a done deal...but I think that article is a bit naive with it's logic and focusing too much on what Qualcomm is doing when Samsung and Qualcomm use different chips.

Mithent said:
I'll start believing in 2GHz phones when anyone makes a 2GHz ARM SoC. Qualcomm just recently introduced a 1.3Ghz 45nm Snapdragon, and they were the first to bring a 1Ghz ARM-based SoC to market, so I doubt anyone is substantially ahead and about to release one that runs at twice the current speeds. ARM SoCs have definitely not advanced at such speeds in the past - they were hovering around 600MHz at peak for a long time.
Also, an updated version of Super AMOLED so soon, when it's only on a couple of devices? And along with it, a resolution that's higher than any other Android phone? I don't see this turning up soon.
So it has a CPU that doesn't exist yet, a screen that also doesn't exist yet, twice the RAM/ROM/storage and 25% more battery capacity than the Galaxy S, and an improved camera. Sounds like a wish-list to me.
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I think they are mistaking a dual core processor with 2ghz. It will be 2 1ghz processors.
But don't be so sure about their can't be 2ghz processor as Samsung is on the cutting edge of ARM they might surprise us. At the specs stated it would have better Dpi or similar compared to the Iphone. So it is bound to need a lot more processing power.

Is it worth the updgrade?

Hi Guys. Looking for honest opinions on the Nexus 7 (2013) as I have the Nexus 7 (2012) 32Gb and am looking to upgrade. Want to know if it's worth it? I know the spec is better, but wanted some opinions of people who have used it to advise how it feels, have the touchscreen issues been fixed, and other reported issues with first batches. Many Thanks in advanced

Is an upgrade in every aspect of the first. The screen is sooooo much better and with the new processor there is zero lag. Those were my main two issues with the first and I'm extremely happy with the second one.
>^.^< Sent From Meow HTC One

I'm coming from the ASUS TF300T (10" tablet). Granted, I never used the OG N7, but the TF300T also has a Tegra 3 processor, just clocked a little slower.
Physical differences:
While the change in size was a little bit of an adjustment for me (took like 20mins of use), it quickly grew on to me. I can easily hold it with one hand, as opposed to resting the 10" across my upper arm/wrist. It also fits into the pocket of just about any of my pants, and you would never tell.
Speed vs. Lag:
I can tell you that the difference between the two is night and day. You barely notice the tab slow down if you are installing/updating apps. There were times where the browser would not respond to my pinches, but the navigation bar would still respond as normal. I'm not sure if that's a problem with the tablet, or with Chrome. Might be Chrome, but I haven't used ugh of the other browsers (except for Dolphin, which allows me to save my downloads where I want to before it begins).
Multitasking is awesome. You sometimes forget which apps were running in the background, but 8 different apps later, and the old ones still reload instantly, without any redraw.
Conclusion:
This was my short review of the N7.2. I know that I left out a lot of topics, but I listed the reasons why I switched. Yes, the OG N7 isn't slow, but going forward, you will begin to see where its older hardware begins to lag behind.
The upgrade isn't necessary, in my opinion, but it's worth the money. If it's too much of a sacrifice, then simply wait for something that's way better.
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Big upgrade for me. The screen is much better, imo, and I don't have any touchscreen issues.
I like the slightly slimmer form factor, and the speed bump is noticeable to me.
No regrets upgrading from the original N7 here.

Look at it like this:
I am speaking from experience I own both models 2012 and 2013
Tegra 3 still kicks the adreno GPU's butt at games no matter what people try to tell me.Consider this....on the TEGRA N7 you can O.C you GPU to over 600 MHZ...its not the safest but its wayhigher and performs better than the 2013 model which tops out at UNDER 500MHZ.
I have both tablets on the same ROM with the same kernel running at their stock frequencies and tegra delivers better gaming despite the 2012 N7 screen being crappy.
Now... as far as overall smooth performance and usage the new N7 is the clear winner since it runs at higher frequencies and has a better CPU, better screen with higher ppi. You also have more RAM, dual speakers, two cameras, and less bezzel.
They are both great I own N7 2012 32GB wifi and N7 2013 32GB LTE.
I use my old one only for games so memory is full now and use my new one mainly for every thing from emails for work, apps, surfing and even voice calls with groove ip. you can still play games and they look great but I feel tegra is always going to deliver slightly and maybe even better gaming performance with future tegra chips.
hope it helps this is just my take on it
Edit: Don't get me wrong it is deffinitely an upgrade in every sense of the word, and I would say go and upgrade but it really depends what you use it for and if it makes sense to spend the money as well. The new N7 is a great device and I waited for it very much until the ATT version came out on GOOGLE PLAY.. just depends what you want it for that's all

sk8trix said:
Tegra 3 still kicks the adreno GPU's butt at games no matter what people try to tell me.Consider this....on the TEGRA N7 you can O.C you GPU to over 600 MHZ...its not the safest but its wayhigher and performs better than the 2013 model which tops out at UNDER 500MHZ.
I have both tablets on the same ROM with the same kernel running at their stock frequencies and tegra delivers better gaming despite the 2012 N7 screen being crappy.
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You must get a lot of people trying to tell you otherwise. Come on, the Adreno 320 dumps all over the Tegra 3's GPU both on paper and in benchmarks and pretty sure I've seen some actual game results too. It's also a widely known fact that that NVIDIA has always sucked for mobile GPU's, even still with the Tegra 4.
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Yeah hard to believe tegra 3 I could function better on games, even if you could oc the gpu a little higher.
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dud3me said:
Yeah hard to believe tegra 3 I could function better on games, even if you could oc the gpu a little higher.
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i have a tegra 3 device and an Xperia Z (adreno 320-1080p).
on the z every game works lagfree on highest graphics, on tegra there are a lot of lags and stutters.
Xperia Z-Vanir AOSP

Whether to upgrade or not is going to come down to personal wants and needs, I think.
My personal experience:
I've spent a total of probably an hour, over the course of a couple visits, playing with the 2013 model at a local store. That was enough device time for me to decide that the upgrade wasn't worth it....for me. I did everything I normally do (or as much as possible with a display model) on the 2013 and came away underwhelmed. For my needs (reading, email, news, calendar) I really couldn't tell the difference between the two (the screen included).
Anyway, my needs are obviously simple, so mileage will vary.

I have upgraded and can say: A huge improvement!
On the 2012 model, display contrast was poor, and text was not completely sharp - so you could read web sites with small text on it, but it was straining for the eyes, especially when the text was not black (e.g grey like in the Play Store or Youtube app).
On the 2013 model, all is very easily readable and eye-friendly (although my Tablet Z has even better contrast).
This alone is worth an upgrade.

I like my new Nexus 7, just as much as I enjoyed the 1st gen I had.
As the old model is an awesome tablet, I managed to sell it easily, and the price to upgrade was minimal, so that was a great incentive to upgrade. The new model has these improvements that I think is worth the upgrade:
A) the faster speed/processor plus the 2MB ram... everything is just slightly less laggy, most notably when multitasking many RAM-heavy apps at once, and switching back and forth between them
B) the dual/stereo speakers is a nice upgrade
C) the lack of any noticible pixels in the screen due to the massive resolution bump-up
D) the form factor of both models is excellent, but the new one is a bit lighter (quite a bit) plus thinner and all around better to handle
E) I don't have a cellphone, so the rear camera is a nice addition
Really though, both are excellent in all regards... I don't play GPU intensive games, so maybe there is a reason to upgrade as well, but I doubt it... If you can sell your 1st one easily, do it... Whoever gets your old one will be getting a killer tablet, and you will be (slightly) future-proofing yourself by having the latest and greatest.

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You must get a lot of people trying to tell you otherwise. Come on, the Adreno 320 dumps all over the Tegra 3's GPU both on paper and in benchmarks and pretty sure I've seen some actual game results too. It's also a widely known fact that that NVIDIA has always sucked for mobile GPU's, even still with the Tegra 4.
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Tegra 4 GPU isn't that bad. It's just a bit better than Adreno 320 but behind 330.

I have the tf300 and now the n7 2013, I think for browsing and other small things they are equally smooth (provided you run 4.3 on the tf300, otherwise it's laggy as hell) but I have to say this screen is beautiful, as good as the HTC one x (which is pretty damn good, just not as good as the HTC one), font in portrait are crisp and easy to read, unlike for instance the tf300 which could really only be used in landscape. Viewing angles are good too unlike for instance the tablet z.

GoneTomorrow said:
You must get a lot of people trying to tell you otherwise. Come on, the Adreno 320 dumps all over the Tegra 3's GPU both on paper and in benchmarks and pretty sure I've seen some actual game results too. It's also a widely known fact that that NVIDIA has always sucked for mobile GPU's, even still with the Tegra 4.
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I don't go by benchmarks benchmarks are useless... I play the same game on both and I notice the tegra 3 will play them way better regardless what a piece paper says. I don't wanna try to convince you because it really doesn't do anything for me lol but having both I can see the differences and where one beats the other.
Its very funny you bring up benchmark results though and amusing....I guess you haven't read all the recent stuff about how most OEMS cheat benchmarks but then again some people will believe whatever they're told. I guess if I tell u apples are blue you'd believe it.
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sk8trix said:
I don't go by benchmarks benchmarks are useless... I play the same game on both and I notice the tegra 3 will play them way better regardless what a piece paper says. I don't wanna try to convince you because it really doesn't do anything for me lol but having both I can see the differences and where one beats the other.
Its very funny you bring up benchmark results though and amusing....I guess you haven't read all the recent stuff about how most OEMS cheat benchmarks but then again some people will believe whatever they're told. I guess if I tell u apples are blue you'd believe it.
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Well most of those benchmarks have the exact same workload as playing a game, thus it is impossible for a GPU 3x faster in such benchmarks to be slower in a game, unless there are serious issues with the game itself.
Also, you must be too slow to comprehend what you read, otherwise you'd know that stock Android devices (Nexuses) don't cheat in any way. Therefore how could OEMs cheating in benchmarks affect comparing a Nexus 7 2012 to 2013 in any way whatsoever? Lol you should probably just stop posting you obviously have no idea what you are on about.

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Well most of those benchmarks have the exact same workload as playing a game, thus it is impossible for a GPU 3x faster in such benchmarks to be slower in a game, unless there are serious issues with the game itself.
Also, you must be too slow to comprehend what you read, otherwise you'd know that stock Android devices (Nexuses) don't cheat in any way. Therefore how could OEMs cheating in benchmarks affect comparing a Nexus 7 2012 to 2013 in any way whatsoever? Lol you should probably just stop posting you obviously have no idea what you are on about.
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agreed.

Note 10.1 vs iPad Air

I'm reading opinions on the internet, watching reviews, tests, comparisons between new Note tablet and iPad Air but I still cant decide which device choose. I'm android user, Id rather buy android tablet than iOS but many many opinions on youtube and xda also says that Note has lags and device is very slow.. I know that there is S pen and its unique functionality on tablets market but it's not important thing to me, even if i would fall in love with stylus. For me most important is smoothness. So iPad is great because of smooth experience, and great tablet-optimized apps (design also is great but it doesn't matter). Note has SD slot and android so there would be easy to share files between my devices (i'm using Galaxy S4). I would stand every inconvenience of android if the tablet wasn't laggy and slow. There is many people who has Air and returned it to get Note and it would be great if they join discussion.

Hello Patroy,
I have been an apple fan for a long time but when I got my iPhone 5S I was really angry at how crap the phone and OS was. I'm giving my girlfriend my iPad 4 and staying with android now. I looked on youtube and there wasn't too many videos relating to the note 10.1 2014, so I decided to make some.
iPhone 5S(IOS7) and why I am switching to Android:
TL;DR: iPhone 5S was a huge letdown and IOS7 is baaaad.
Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 First impressions:
TL;DR: Note 10.1 2014 is pretty lag free and performs better than the iPhone 5S/iPad4.
I'm also recording some new videos relating to Touchwiz, Optimizations, IOS7vsAndroid,Apps, Games, etc. If there is a video you would like me to make, feel free to ask.
edit: Benchmarks are done. 10.1 = 2x better than iPad 4 and equal to iPad air. 10.1 wins overall. Video will be up in an hour or 2.

But i cant see if something runs smooth or not, because of low FPS rate in your video camera..

After performing all of the updates, the only lag I experience is the wakeup lag in the lock screen. I'm sure this can be fixed by installing some custom Roms that will come available soon.everything else is extremly smooth unlike other galaxy devices I have used in the past

Patroy said:
But i cant see if something runs smooth or not, because of low FPS rate in your video camera..
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l don t want to ruin Surprise , but the Galaxy 10.1 has the least lag. Far less laggy than the A7 in iPhone 5 (same specs as ipad air). This 10.1 is literallhnearly completely lag free, unlike ios7. Looking forward to showing the benchmark video whe its finished rendering.
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But what benchmarks means? Nothing... There was thread, where someones couldn't turn high quality textures in some racing game on 10.1, because of the app which is not optimized for that tablet and that resolution. I would be pleased if someone will show me video with software tour where there won't be any lags or slowdowns

Patroy said:
But what benchmarks means? Nothing... There was thread, where someones couldn't turn high quality textures in some racing game on 10.1, because of the app which is not optimized for that tablet and that resolution. I would be pleased if someone will show me video with software tour where there won't be any lags or slowdowns
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Im not talking about just benchmarks. The UI and everything is more fluid. Higher FPS and definitely smoother than ios7. The reason that racing game couldn't go high was because the developer didnt know such a bigh resolution device existed and is being sorted now so we can play highest in the next update. I have played Dead Trigger 2 and Real Racing 3 and they both look better o tbis tabket because of the higher resolution and some ga es have better effects. I wish my camera wasnt so bad because there is no lag or slowdowns.
On the ipad we saw a game benchmark where the game was getting 7fps at times on the ipad 4 (iphone 5s/ipad air around 13fps) and o the tab the lowest fps it got to was 17fps and that was very very rare. The lag was noticable on my iphone 5s and very rareoy happened on this tab.

That's interesting, i REALLY want an android tablet.. its so hard to decide without touching it in real

Patroy said:
That's interesting, i REALLY want an android tablet.. its so hard to decide without touching it in real
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I have a 3rd gen I pad because back then everything offered by Android was pretty much beta. Went and bought an I pad air few weeks ago played with but it bored me to hell.. no innovation on apples part. Went and bought a note 10.1 and wow the device actually feels like a step forward. I haven't been able to put it down. Learning all the little tips/tricks is actually enjoyable. The spen really comes in handy and the multi tasking windows beats all. Sure it has a little lag here in there but nothing that keeps you from doing some thing. The Air would just crash the app and i think it has something to do with the 1 gig of memory off loading. Anyways yes the air has better battery life but note can still do 10 hours np. My air is going back.

Go into a electronic shop and play with the Note 10.1 for 10mins then go do the same with the Ipad Air. I bet you will get bored of the Air straightaway...Apple is just soo boring now.
I used to love Apple ages ago because they truely kicked started Smartphones and Tablets and they were the best in my eyes. But now I find them soo boring and android phones and tablets have not only caught uo but passed Apple. Each to their own i guess...If you still prefer the Air after playing with both well then you know which one to buy.
My Note hasnt been laggy once and I havent had issues that some claim. And I'm like you, i didnt really care for the spen much but i find myself using it more and more...Truley awesome.
Eitherway they are both great products when you really think about it, just the Note is Miles Miles better

I was searching for note in electronic shop but i couldn't find them anywhere, I was playing with the Air and I agree with you its booring and after 15 mins of using it i figured out that I know everything about this os but i was thinking there is nothing better than the ipad now. My first plan was buying nexus 10 2013 but id turned out that N10 2013 doesn't exist...

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Turns out after slme customizations, my note 10.1 has 14 hour battery life. Beats my ipad by a few hours. Awesome.

Here's a pretty good review comparing the two...
http://pocketnow.com/2013/11/11/ipad-air-vs-galaxy-note-10-1

The only time I really experienced lag with my Note 10.1 2014 edition was when I first got mine, but I had pre-ordered so I got it the day of release. . The lag was definitely a software issue but all new products have some sorts of issues but they get fixed fairly quickly. After about a week give or take Samsung released an update which helped speed things up. Later after that they released another update to smooth things out further. Currently, my Note runs perfectly; very smooth and fast. I can't really speak on the Ipad's part, as I have not owned one.

BarryH_GEG said:
Here's a pretty good review comparing the two...
http://pocketnow.com/2013/11/11/ipad-air-vs-galaxy-note-10-1
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Yes, i watched almost every comparison on yt and here we can se how laggy is note and how smooth is the Air

Patroy said:
Yes, i watched almost every comparison on yt and here we can se how laggy is note and how smooth is the Air
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The iPad Air does a fraction of what the N10.1-14 does functionally. Strip out simple multitasking, multiview, S Pen, and all the other creation features and the N10.1-14 would be equally fluid. Android as an OS is just as fluid as iOS in AOSP form. That is until you start adding in tons of apps and syncs that create open threads and consume resources which the N10.1-14 has tons of to power its features. So people have a choice - limited functionality and completely smooth transitions or tons of functionality, true multitasking, and, in the N10.1-14's case, the best creation and productivity tool on the planet and deal with the occasional millisecond long stutter. I choose the latter and don't feel the N10.1-14 lags in any noticeable or chronic way. People looking for a pretty display to read, browse, and consume media probably should buy an iPad; that's who they are made for.

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That's interesting, i REALLY want an android tablet.. its so hard to decide without touching it in real
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Just go into best buy or frys and play with it for a while. Nobody here is going to have the same opinion as you will on how "laggy" the tablet is.
Not that i dont enjoy the discussion but at this point, we have given you our opinion, so all that's left is to try it.
Another option is to just buy it on Amazon, if you dont like it, then return it.
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I have both, got my note 10.1 yesterday. Both have their pros and cons and I honestly enjoy using both. My note is the Wi-Fi octa core version, I wish it had the Snapdragon 800 instead.
I'd say the screens are almost equal, maybe a slight edge to the iPad. Audio quality threw headphones is pretty much even, the iPad speakers are better.
Hopefully the dev support will pick up for the note. I'd love to have cm 11 on this.
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iLagPad Air is a POS. Don't listen to people and the hype but actually try one yourself. This is what I notice right away within the first 5 minutes:
- Two types of Safari browser lag.
- First type is jello, flag or wave effect. Hold the iLagPad in portrait orientation, browse to The Verge (just as an example although I don't recommend that site as they lick Apple sponsor's nuts and will filter any negative facts) in full desktop mode, scroll up and down casually, look at the horizontal edges of the big page wide blocks where it suffers from the wavy flaggy jello effect because the GPU can't keep up with the resolution.
- Second type appears to be vsync which makes vertical scrolling look consistent but slow at about 20fps. For example, vertically flick scroll through The Verge's main page in full desktop mode as quickly as you can from top to bottom. It takes about 3 seconds. Do the same on a Note 3 with the current version of Chrome and it's about one second.
With extended use you'll run into more serious issues like blue screen of death and low memory crashes:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/23817728
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5532206

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With extended use you'll run into more serious issues like blue screen of death and low memory crashes:
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Those links were interesting; especially the low memory one. I don't follow Apple products and just assume from reviews they are "utopianly perfect." I guess the grass really isn't greener on the other side, just "different."

What's Your Next Tablet Going To Be?

Well..
You can tell its winding down for the G-Pad 8.3.. Conversation is almost at a standstill. There's certainly some ROM's to choose from.. but other than folks complaining about this issue or that, not much else is being discussed. This is a fine little Tablet.. and I've not had single issue with it..
I don't even see the blue line anymore.. somehow that cleared itself up..
So I thought I would ask the question.. Any idea what you next Tablet is going to be? or are you good with the G-Pad for the rest of 2014 and beyond?

Just bought the Gpad… so it will do for the rest of 2014. Considered the Galaxy tab pro 8.4, but the ultra high resolution makes lots of thing too small to read. I am also not a fan of Samsung's physical buttons.
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just got a LG G Pad LTE too, for LTE fallback when I'm traveling and t-mobile coverage doesn't cut it
we're still waiting for more info on the LG G pad 7.0/8.0/10.1. LG said they'll be releasing more info during the MedPi 2014 event, but nothing...
insufficient brightness is probably the only shortcoming. camera quality is just meh, but don't really care. pricing (vs the nexus 7) is another thing, but what can you do?
closest competitor would be the Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 with a higher-res screen and better CPU (and at least $70 more expensive on MSRP, $100 more expensive when comparing on-sale prices)
I don't see any reason to upgrade this tablet in the next 2 years, unless battery dies for some reason or I drop it and break it

ncguy68 said:
Just bought the Gpad… so it will do for the rest of 2014. Considered the Galaxy tab pro 8.4, but the ultra high resolution makes lots of thing too small to read. I am also not a fan of Samsung's physical buttons.
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just got a LG G Pad LTE too, insufficient brightness is probably the only shortcoming. camera quality is just meh
I don't see any reason to upgrade this tablet in the next 2 years, unless battery dies for some reason or I drop it and break it
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Congrats to both of you on your purchase..
You'll like this tablet.. NC I agree on an 8 inch tablet, the physical home and capacitive buttons really become annoying when hold the tablet in landscape.. You can do a build.prop mod and turn them all off and just use a pie.. I don't mind them so much on a 10 inch device though.. But I've owned a Note 8 and Tab 3 8.0 and they suck whether on or modded off on an 8 inch device.

When new Android version is released I think the forum will be much busier. For now, I don't even want to root this Pad. It's fine what LG did with stock rom already.
Guess that's a good sign when custom ROMs are not that necessary :laugh:

I'm going to keep using my G Pad till it stops working (I hope that will never happen)
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For now, I don't even want to root this Pad. It's fine what LG did with stock rom already.
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Relieved of it's bulk.. the stock ROM has it's merits.. but you should at least root to have the option freeze bloat and have access to apps that require root... Trust me on this.. The Mahdi-ROM is head and shoulders above the rest.. you really should give it a whirl..
If after using it, you feel it's not for you.. just run the LG updater software and select "Update Recovery".. 30 mins later you'll have your bone stock 8.3 back again..

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Relieved of it's bulk.. the stock ROM has it's merits.. but you should at least root to have the option freeze bloat and have access to apps that require root... Trust me on this.. The Mahdi-ROM is head and shoulders above the rest.. you really should give it a whirl..
If after using it, you feel it's not for you.. just run the LG updater software and select "Update Recovery".. 30 mins later you'll have your bone stock 8.3 back again..
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The only reason for rooting to me is to increase the battery life. I actually love using LG apps and most of them can be removed without root. My average battery life is 6-7 hrs depending on how much game I play. Will I get up to 8 hrs with root and some tweaks only?

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Congrats to both of you on your purchase..
You'll like this tablet.. NC I agree on an 8 inch tablet, the physical home and capacitive buttons really become annoying when hold the tablet in landscape.. You can do a build.prop mod and turn them all off and just use a pie.. I don't mind them so much on a 10 inch device though.. But I've owned a Note 8 and Tab 3 8.0 and they suck whether on or modded off on an 8 inch device. Strangely enough though I've been giving my next phone purchase a LOT of thought.. And I sure now I will go with the Samsung S5 Prime.. since a phone is a different ballgame. With my phone, it's in portrait mode 95% of the time.. even when I txt so the buttons won't bother me that much even though I'll still turn them off and use a pie.. I just have to have that 1440P 2K Screen and the 805 / 420 CPu / GPu that's going to power the Prime..:
I'm also curious to hear more about the V700.. the 10.1 inch G-Pad. I wonder if it's low end or high end..
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Have you consider getting the lg g3

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Have you consider getting the lg g3
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I think it will be my next phone.
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All I know about my next tablet is that it doesn't exist yet.

Brianetta said:
All I know about my next tablet is that it doesn't exist yet.
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I Agree. But I'm sure something will come soon to grab our attention!
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Vietanh198 said:
The only reason for rooting to me is to increase the battery life. I actually love using LG apps and most of them can be removed without root. My average battery life is 6-7 hrs depending on how much game I play. Will I get up to 8 hrs with root and some tweaks only?
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Vietanh.. Battery Life is one of the most subjective characteristics of any mobile device..
There is no way I'm going to tell you that, you will receive better battery life by switch to a custom ROM. Battery life comes down to personal usage habits.. plain and simple.
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Snake.. it's off topic.. but since there is not a whole lot to say about the G-Pad these days, let's discuss the LG-G3..
Short answer.. No Way would I purchase the LG-G3.
Now.. Let me explain why..
LG got caught between a rock and a hard place with the G3.. I call it a *Tweener Phone* because, it's early enough to be the 1st mass produced flagship smartphone to have 2560 x 1440P (2K) resolution BUT its (fatal flaw to me) is.. it's so early, LG had no choice but to go with the Snapdragon 801 CPu chipset which houses the Adreno 330 GPu..
That's last year's tech..
The 801really is just a Warmed Over Snapdragon 800 with the same 4 Krait 400 CPu's and of course the Adreno 330 that have been around for almost 10 months now.. I can't see spending $700.00 on a GREAT LQQKING device that has basically 2013.5 specs.
Whereas the Prime models from Samsung and HTC (whether they come in the rumored June/July timeframe or not) will have the Snapdragon 805 chipset.. Which by Qualcomm's own words was designed for 4K (Quad-HD) technology.
And I would feel MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE knowing I spent $700.00 bucks on hardware that was designed to run the device to it's maximum potential.. Since the 805 chipset has the upgraded Krait 450 CPu's and MONSTER Adreno 420 GPu the new chipset is 15% better performing overall and a whooping 40% stronger graphics wise than the 801/330 chipset that will be in the G3.. And the 805 will be the 1st chipset to have PS3 HD Level graphics in a smartphone device... (That's sharp dude..)
In my book that is a Substantial increase in graphics and power..
So as much as I love the looks of the G3, I cannot justify sticking with LG on this one.. I understand they were forced to move up their timetable for releasing their 2014 flagship to compete with Samsung S5 and HTC's M8.. but what they should do is "Swallow Their Pride" and release a Prime model of their own this fall with the updated 805 chipset..
Of course the 801 in the G3 will run it fine.. just not at it's maximum potential now that it has over 530 ppi to push.. here is a look at the improvements in the new 805 chipset..
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I honestly don't have a need for a next tablet. This one is the perfect size for me, and it's powerful enough to do anything I'll want to do with it for quite some time. If, for some reason, I needed to replace my 8.3 (broken/dead/lost/stolen), I'd probably just get another one.
Although, if/when the rumored Nexus 8 ever comes out, this might change.
I do kinda have a desire for a second tablet, but it'd be a downgrade like a Hisense Sero 7 Pro or 2012 Nexus 7. Something I can throw around and toss in my backpack without worrying about keeping my 8.3 pristine.

I actually picked up a refurbished 2013 Nexus 7. Great tablet. My other Nexus 7 was bricked (2012 version) and I wanted something small enough take with me on the go. I really like the 8.3, but it's a bit much to just grab and go.

I'm waiting to see if Nexus will release an 8in model. if not, I'll see what LG put out next.. I'm liking my LG tablet over Samsung tablet.

Planterz said:
I honestly don't have a need for a next tablet. This one is the perfect size for me.
Although, if/when the rumored Nexus 8 ever comes out, this might change.
I do kinda have a desire for a second tablet, but it'd be a downgrade like a Hisense Sero 7 Pro or 2012 Nexus 7. Something I can throw around.
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First Things First...
The Sero Hisense 7 Pro is only $115.00 @ Walmart.
Be careful though.. and stress it early.. I had one of those to mess with back when they first came out and thank goodness I stressed it within my return window ( just playing 3D games) they're known to have heatsink material breakdowns.. and the rear of the device will start to radiate heat even at idle.. RETURN IMMEDIATELY if this is the case.
Ah... The HTC Nexus 8.9..
It will cost $400.00 + Tax.. I don't care..
It will be bigger than the G-Pad 8.3.. I don't care..
It will mean selling my G-Pad 8.3, again.. I don't care..
Not only will it be a *Classic* being the final Nexus device ever produced.. it going to be stunning visually being produced by HTC..
it's what I pretty much envisioned.. a little taller and wider than the 8.3 ( of course @ 8.9 inches ) and that's ok because it will follow HTC's front speaker placement.. which is the way ALL phones and tablets should be designed..
Throw in the 805 chipset and a 2K 1440P resolution display for a Brilliant & Vibrant (FINALLY) screen ( something the G-Pad sorely lacks ) and top all that off with KitKat 4..4.3 or Key-Lime Pie 4.5/ 5.0 and I'll have no tears in my eyes when I pack my G-Pad 8.3 off to it's new owner..
With Google I/O coming up in less than 30 days.. and the M8 already in the pipeline,
the HTC Nexus 8.9 tablet and HTC M8 Prime could very well have me 100% in HTC's camp..

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First Things First...
The Sero Hisense 7 Pro is only $115.00 @ Walmart.
Be careful though.. and stress it early.. I had one of those to mess with back when they first came out and thank goodness I stressed it within my return window ( just playing 3D games) they're known to have heatsink material breakdowns.. and the rear of the device will start to radiate heat even at idle.. RETURN IMMEDIATELY if this is the case.
Ah... The HTC Nexus 8.9..
It will cost $400.00 + Tax.. I don't care..
It will be bigger than the G-Pad 8.3.. I don't care..
It will mean selling my G-Pad 8.3, again.. I don't care..
Not only will it be a *Classic* being the final Nexus device ever produced.. it going to be stunning visually being produced by HTC..
it's what I pretty much how I envisioned.. a little taller and wider than the 8.3 ( of course @ 8.9 inches ) and that's ok because it will follow HTC's front speaker placement.. which is the way ALL phones and tablets should be designed..
Throw in the 805 chipset and a 2K 1440P resolution display for a Brilliant & Vibrant (FINALLY) screen ( something the G-Pad sorely lacks ) and top all that off with KitKat 4..4.3 or Key-Lime Pie 4.5/ 5.0 and I'll have no tears in my eyes when I pack my G-Pad 8.3 off to it's new owner..
With Google I/O coming up in less than 30 days.. and the M8 already in the pipeline,
the HTC Nexus 8.9 tablet and HTC M8 Prime could very well have me 100% in HTC's camp..
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Hope your nexus 8.9 price guess is wrong. Lol. $400 is lots of cash.
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NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
Hope your nexus 8.9 price guess is wrong. Lol. $400 is lots of cash.
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They are not for everybody chief... You can't have a high level tablet like an HTC built Nexus device for $269.00 like the Asus built Nexus 7 was..
Those days are over for Google.. That's why this is the FINAL Nexus product.. and to be honest this is going to be a *Transition* product.. Taking those that are interested from the barebones (non-profit) Nexus line to the (profit) Google Silver Line..
Google is officially OUT of the "Bargain Basement" business and ready to play with the big boys... with their Phones and Tablets..
This is designed to compete with the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 and iPad Retina Mini.. Not the "Best Bang For Your Buck" segment anymore.
And.. that's going to turn a lot of people off.. I get that.. But Google has to do this to be perceived as a "Real Alternative" to Samsung and Apple when they hit Verizon, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile ( with their 2nd device ) with the launch of the Silver Line.. not to mention BestBuy and whoever else they may partner with.. They may go as far as T.V. commercial bombardment like Samsung since they certainly have the funds to do so..
It's a New Google.. and you are going to have to *Pay to Play*

That HTC is certainly sexy, but it's obviously not the Nexus 8 or 8.9 or whatever. Hopefully the Nexus follows the same design language. Like wheels on luggage or upside-down ketchup bottles, I don't know why it's taken manufacturers so long to do front-facing speakers.

Is it worth it?

I've been reading the nvidia forums and I hear nothing but problems about this device, from updates breaking feature to weak Wi-Fi to cracked edges to chatting issues. It seems like a great device and a dream come true for my needs (stylus, gaming power, decent battery in normal use, console mode, quick update etc.) But the more I read those forums the more I doubt this device.
What is the consensus on XDA? Have you guys had any issues? How's Wi-Fi?
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Short answer - Yes.
Mine runs like a champ with no wifi issues at all. It has your typical brand new out of the box software compatability bugs that all new products have, but nothing that get in the way of it being a great product. Nothing even comes close as far as horsepower goes.
The only real problems I see is the cracking corner issues. I too have 1 very small hair line crack that I would have never noticed if others had not been talking about them. I toyed with the idea of an RMA and then figured why bother. Really, I can spend all that time and effort with RMA, get another one and have the same problem. The crack is unfortunate, but nothing that ruins the tablet. I love this little thing even with a tiny crack.

I am not really feeling it. The worst part is I picked mine up from my short trip to the US, and there's no recourse for me here. I have not experienced cracked edges (But surprisingly, the bezel on mine is rough from around the centre of the screen for around 2-3 cms). The Wi-Fi where I am living is not spectacular, and coupled with the sub-par Wi-Fi on the tablet, I haven't been able to download one game on the tablet yet. Besides, there has been screen flickering which has recently cropped up (When on manual brightness. Toggling from Auto to manual seems to have removed it), and I am seeing lag in the menus with the CPU profile on Optimized.
I want to love my tablet, really, (More so since I am stuck with it.), but, I am getting a few pangs of buyers remorse. Undoubtedly, the Shield tab is a powerhouse, but, sincerely hoping that Nvidia fixes the software side of things, the sooner the better.

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I am not really feeling it. The worst part is I picked mine up from my short trip to the US, and there's no recourse for me here. I have not experienced cracked edges (But surprisingly, the bezel on mine is rough from around the centre of the screen for around 2-3 cms). The Wi-Fi where I am living is not spectacular, and coupled with the sub-par Wi-Fi on the tablet, I haven't been able to download one game on the tablet yet. Besides, there has been screen flickering which has recently cropped up (When on manual brightness. Toggling from Auto to manual seems to have removed it), and I am seeing lag in the menus with the CPU profile on Optimized.
I want to love my tablet, really, (More so since I am stuck with it.), but, I am getting a few pangs of buyers remorse. Undoubtedly, the Shield tab is a powerhouse, but, sincerely hoping that Nvidia fixes the software side of things, the sooner the better.
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The screen flickering is just Prism and we will probably be be able to turn it off with future updates. An as for the lag, id bet my left nut that you have installed some app or combo of apps that is conflicting and slowing down the tab. I have my tab set with 2 cores, 50% CPU power and limit 30 fps. I see zero lag (and great battery life). Even half-life and trine play perfect. I have noticed that the WiFi can get a bit weaker wen holding the tab in portrait but its never enough to cause an issue. Grid works perfect even on a crap century link router.
Anyways I am loving this tablet (although, this is my second, first had display driver issue and was returned to nvidia) my only complaint is that the accessories are nowhere to be found.

People not having wifi issues are apparently around strong wifi or used to poor wifi. Too many reports and acknowledgement by Nvidia not to be a global issue. The Best Buy units also have the weak wifi problem. 2.4 is poor and 5.0 is awful. Also signal bias depending on how the devices are held. "Classic" poor wifi antenna design.
Even the 32gb version is delayed from the early September release now. Coincidence perhaps, but fits the timing of the issue. Ditto on the cracks that show after a few days use.
Hopefully the issues get fixed, or sales will be impacted on an otherwise nice device. Best to return it and wait for proof of fixes if dislike the crack and wifi issues. Neither are going to be fixed with firmware.

I would bet that the Wi-Fi signal strength depends on which side of the device you hold on to.

Really ? I have zero issues great tablet ! Watch the reviews and go with your instincts. As for WiFi issues I opened mine last week connected to WiFi straight away there was a ota fixing a few issues with WiFi etc, Almost every new device has them as for the cracked corners? How do they treat the tablet, I dropped mine from quite a high distance and Did not even mark or dent scratch. The build itself feels solid, my only grumble is the bezzel has quite a sharp finish apart from that its amazing fast smooth great battery life great all round tablet. I would highly recommend! Don't listen to the horror storys.
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If you're a gamer get it. If you're just gonna get it for media consumption probably not worth it as you can just buy a cheaper device for that or you may already have a media consumption device. I think majority buy this tablet for streaming games from pc or grid and play k1 enhanced games. For me I like playing the k1 enhanced games and grid and also onlive and with the shield controller it's no fuzz. No need for remapping. And also some games that have some control support will have available maps downloaded when you play the game so you don't have to remap.
Wifi on mine is not as strong as my other devices: note 3, note 2014. I got a replacement and it's slightly better but screen is more yellow so the wifi on my original might be faulty. I also noticed before I did an OTA on the replacement, the wifi was even stronger. Or at least it was showing 36mbps connection vs 11mbps after in the same spot. Weird but I hope this wifi thing can be a software issue too.
Right is the replacement
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I have zero interest in gaming, I just don't think there is a better 8" tablet available at any price.

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I have zero interest in gaming, I just don't think there is a better 8" tablet available at any price.
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That's exactly how I feel, of course it's a little compromise on the screen but everything else screams amazing. But these problems are getting me wary, I have one coming on from amazon on Wed so I guess I'll decide soon.
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I have zero interest in gaming, I just don't think there is a better 8" tablet available at any price.
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If not a gamer, the new Samsung 8" seems better. Much better display, better battery life and much better wifi reception. Like the Shield, they are both constrained for storage due to the 11gb free on the devices. IMO, this size especially with Android L that take 20% more space seems tiny.

Wi Fi not great with mine but not so bad that I regret getting mine..I can't put mine down

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Wi Fi not great with mine but not so bad that I regret getting mine..I can't put mine down
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Same but it's still honeymoon stage so time will tell.
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Good WiFi reception for me

Wifi is relative to where you use it. If in a stronger area, even weak wifi reception is good.

Have no problem with WiFi great signal round the house and the bottom of my large garden.

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If not a gamer, the new Samsung 8" seems better. Much better display, better battery life and much better wifi reception. Like the Shield, they are both constrained for storage due to the 11gb free on the devices. IMO, this size especially with Android L that take 20% more space seems tiny.
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If you're thinking about the Tab S 8.4 it has a better screen and battery life, but the performance is so so. UI lag and general lag in apps isn't so nice.
The Sheild has it's weak points but i can't think of any better tablet right now in this price range / size range.
I have the 16g version temporarily until my 32gb LTE version arrives. I can't understand why nvidia even made a 16gb model. With the kind of games you can play on this device, 16gb isn't nearly enough.

I have a 32gb Note 2014. Was wanting to replace with the Shield 32gb but will now wait to see if the wifi is fixed on that version. Comparing the Note, Air and Shield 16gb clearly showed how weak the Shield wifi is. Either that or the Note and Air have super mega watt powered wifi. My guess it is the former.
Was hoping 16gb would work, but even if wifi was fine, would have returned anyway since prefer the extra internal storage. LTE though is a waste for me since I have Verizon.

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I have a 32gb Note 2014. Was wanting to replace with the Shield 32gb but will now wait to see if the wifi is fixed on that version. Comparing the Note, Air and Shield 16gb clearly showed how weak the Shield wifi is. Either that or the Note and Air have super mega watt powered wifi. My guess it is the former.
Was hoping 16gb would work, but even if wifi was fine, would have returned anyway since prefer the extra internal storage. LTE though is a waste for me since I have Verizon.
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WIFI Issue was fixed with a ota, my WiFi is better than my lg g2 nexus 7 2nd edt etc.....

Come on guys, we are talking about an device available since beginning August in the Us and since two weeks in Europe.
There seem to be some batches who had problems. Nvidia answered really fast and supported people having Problems with cracking edges.
We had so many devices in the past having problems when been released. (And they were twice the price at an shield Tablet)
So lets get a look what we are getting for 300 bucks :
8 Inch FHD Display
k1 Prozessor.
Micro SD
Build in stylus ( Made out of metal, not some weird plastic thing)
Close to stock android
Good Haptic ( l know that is subjectiv )
The promise to receive Android L quiet fast
l think the package is one of the best in this price segment.
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