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[Q] No HTC sense 2.1 for HTC Desire Z

It's confirmed by Frandroid (FRENCH SITE):
This is the orignal link:
http://www.frandroid.com/60377/pas-de-mises-a-jour-pour-les-anciens-smartphones-htc/
And the google traduction:
http://translate.google.fr/translat...ises-a-jour-pour-les-anciens-smartphones-htc/

Actually they're pretty lame in english, so let's hope they misunderstood...

What does Sense 2.1 add over 2.0?

I don't think it's what added over 2.0 that matters, but the underlying OS, ie Android 2.3.

If this is true it would be sad.

Maciz said:
What does Sense 2.1 add over 2.0?
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Quick setting button when you slide down the notification panel, better calendar,
etc. But the point is if they already stop updating the interface for their phone
because they prefer to concentrate their efforts on newer phones, then you can't expect a long term support for the desire z, HD and desire.
Here's an overview of 2.1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzrneY5tbo0

that would be the last site that i trust...lol..

wont trust that site either
anyway custrom roms might be comming anyway

I bet the Sense update will be released with Gingerbread : http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/htc...t-for-android-23-gingerbread-update-50002752/

crimsdings said:
wont trust that site either
anyway custrom roms might be comming anyway
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frandroid is a good source of information for Android. They recently cover the mobile world congress. You can trust them.

[Q] Comparisaon between Wildfire & Galaxy Ace

Dear All Wildfire Users,
I would like to know if you could provide me some information & comparison between Wildfire & Galaxy Ace...
I'm going to purchase among these two...
Thanks...

Just by going though the tech specs, the Galaxy Ace seems to ace the Wildfire everywhere (Far better CPU, a good GPU, Larger Screen, Better Screen Res, ). The only downside as of now I see is the lack of the modding community for it. (Expected though, since it is a new phone)

I think samsung is not too popular in usa & europe...only asia & india...
that's why not many modification...only thing is the Ace is not support flash browser

Even Wildfire does not support it, just FYI.

3xeno said:
Even Wildfire does not support it, just FYI.
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oh really? the htc confirmed it is possible on their site.
anyways thanks for you review

mrweisslee said:
oh really? the htc confirmed it is possible on their site.
anyways thanks for you review
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Absolutely not. Flash is a feature included by default in Froyo 2.2, but, it requires ARMv7 or newer processors to run. Wildfire has an ARMv6 processor, so, Flash will never work on the Wildfire (Unless Adobe redesigns it to work with old hardware, which is next to impossible).
The only thing that works on Wildfire is FlashLite, along with Sense based ROM's, however, as expected, this is nowhere close to the real thing.

subaash12; said:
well u don't have to download any flash player and you can download skyfire browser which plays flash by using the existing skyfire server. Try it ..
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Graphic glitches in Gingerbread

I am using HTC HD2 with android nand roms. After Froyo wich was really good on HD2 i installed some gingerbread ROMs.
I love HTC sense so i always use Roms with sense UI.
Like all other using gingerbread i have the typical graphic glitches. There is a fix of this, but using this will bring the camera to stop working.
My Question to the developers:
Is there a real chance, that this bugs will be fixed and camera and graphics will do fine?
Can we support the developers fixing this issues?
Will there be a fix from HTC/when?
I am very happy with android and appreciate the lots of work of the developers. Thank you, its great.
I am thinking about giving my HD2 away and buy a Samsung Galaxy S2.
If there will be fixes of this bug in short time i will keep my HD2 on.
If there is no possibility of fixing this, i will change to Galaxy S2.
Thanks for your hints.

Definitly not the proper section, it should be in Q/A...
BUT :
I'd love to see a dev/chef offering a fully working Froyo Sense. No 2.1 or 3.0. Sense is only experimental now, there is no more stable and up to date version of Froyo Sense which is a shame.
RafDroid is out of date and Incredible S (imilka) buggy with many apps FC...

should post this in Q&A
as for imilkas incredible s build, never had any issues with it and wqas running it for at least a month and half before changing never had any force closes

Try the game Cordy...

fix for graphic glitches?
I installed HTC HD2 Android Gingerbread on Nand. The typicel GB-graphic glitches suck very much.As far as I understand, is it possible for the devs to fix this bugs as soon as HTC releases the Kernel Source Code of GB.
When will HTC release this source?
I am sad about this bugs and thinking of sell my HD2 and buy a Galaxy S2.
Anybody who can give some details?

thommygay24 said:
I installed HTC HD2 Android Gingerbread on Nand. The typicel GB-graphic glitches suck very much.As far as I understand, is it possible for the devs to fix this bugs as soon as HTC releases the Kernel Source Code of GB.
When will HTC release this source?
I am sad about this bugs and thinking of sell my HD2 and buy a Galaxy S2.
Anybody who can give some details?
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Everything is possible and almost all things made possible on HD2. I don't think fix for this issue will be impossible. Just its about time. Don't worry, Android isn't a windows mobile or windows phone for someone to protect.
Keep hopes!
Thanks...
Best Regards

thommygay24 said:
I am using HTC HD2 with android nand roms. After Froyo wich was really good on HD2 i installed some gingerbread ROMs.
I love HTC sense so i always use Roms with sense UI.
Like all other using gingerbread i have the typical graphic glitches. There is a fix of this, but using this will bring the camera to stop working.
My Question to the developers:
Is there a real chance, that this bugs will be fixed and camera and graphics will do fine?
Can we support the developers fixing this issues?
Will there be a fix from HTC/when?
I am very happy with android and appreciate the lots of work of the developers. Thank you, its great.
I am thinking about giving my HD2 away and buy a Samsung Galaxy S2.
If there will be fixes of this bug in short time i will keep my HD2 on.
If there is no possibility of fixing this, i will change to Galaxy S2.
Thanks for your hints.
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Dude, have patience. just wait of this problem to be fixed as well. however, if u planned to by galaxy s2 there will not as much support with it as compared to hd2 cuz there are so much developers working on hd2 roms, and i hope that the time is near for a stable sense 3.0 rom for hd2.

CRACING said:
Everything is possible and almost all things made possible on HD2. I don't think fix for this issue will be impossible. Just its about time. Don't worry, Android isn't a windows mobile or windows phone for someone to protect.
Keep hopes!
Thanks...
Best Regards
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Source Code For Gb kernel are releset Now plz plz fix the gitches

che3ton said:
Source Code For Gb kernel are releset Now plz plz fix the gitches
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where did you get this information from? there is no source code for desire on the official page http://developer.htc.com/

che3ton said:
Source Code For Gb kernel are releset Now plz plz fix the gitches
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they will probably fix the glitches once the DESIRE GB kernal source is released
which it seems they have forgotten to do,or they just dont plan on releaseing it

I'm a noob, but... this seems to be desire HC gingerbread source code...
(copy&paste from htc developer download page)
"HTC Desire HD – GB MR – 2.6.35 kernel source code"
here is the link:
http://dl4.htc.com/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/ace-2.6.35-gb-MR.tar.gz

nushuth said:
I'm a noob, but... this seems to be desire HC gingerbread source code...
(copy&paste from htc developer download page)
"HTC Desire HD – GB MR – 2.6.35 kernel source code"
here is the link:
http://dl4.htc.com/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/ace-2.6.35-gb-MR.tar.gz
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Reread your post. HTC Desire HD...
We need the original desire.

Nigeldg said:
Reread your post. HTC Desire HD...
We need the original desire.
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let me understand...
out HD2 seems to be very similar to desire HD in hardware (the only difference seems to be original OS and Camera, 5 vs 8 MPx) same CPU and same graphic processore.
desire HD already have a gingerbread + Sense official rom. It's only sense 2.1, but we have same glitches problem on any gingerbread + sense rom. the problem seems to be the same...
why we need a desire (not HD) kernel source code? there is no way to use desire HD source?

nushuth said:
let me understand...
out HD2 seems to be very similar to desire HD in hardware (the only difference seems to be original OS and Camera, 5 vs 8 MPx) same CPU and same graphic processore.
desire HD already have a gingerbread + Sense official rom. It's only sense 2.1, but we have same glitches problem on any gingerbread + sense rom. the problem seems to be the same...
why we need a desire (not HD) kernel source code? there is no way to use desire HD source?
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I thought this at first as well but I can't explain this to you, only a dev or someone more experienced can. But in short, the hardware is not close enough, the DHD has a 2nd generation CPU vs the HD2's 1st gen or something like that, whereas the original desire has the same hardware as the HD2.
TBH, I have no clue in other words.

People I have big hopes in miui now!

And once again a thread about miui by the same person blah blah bl..
Yes fine but i do actually have something this time!!
As shown here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1hVXPiuo6Q&feature=related
does the acer liquid thing run miui
Tere the blade's specs http://www.gsmarena.com/zte_blade-3391.php
And
The liquid's specs http://www.gsmarena.com/acer_liquid-2968.php
The screen is the same the cpu of the acer is faster but the blade has the double ram (i have the 5mp/512mb ram version)
So why not?
I would love to help and i wont say that i don't have time since that would be a lie.
I'm willing to help everywhere i can.

Acer have snapdragon CPU, blade have arm v6 CPU, MIUI not supporting arm v6

acmerw said:
Acer have snapdragon CPU, blade have arm v6 CPU, MIUI not supporting arm v6
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That shouldn't be a problem.
Its still android and if we find a supported kernel will it work.
a cpu is a cpu. android is android. a kernel is a kernel. Three simple things that will make it possible.
Moon

Moonystorm said:
That shouldn't be a problem.
Its still android and if we find a supported kernel will it work.
a cpu is a cpu. android is android. a kernel is a kernel. Three simple things that will make it possible.
Moon
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Miui is compiled for armv7 it wont work unless miui devs release source
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Plus there doesn't seem to be many people that interested in it now (at least from what I've seen on Modaco).

:C
Oh yea i forgot it was closed.
****..
anyone up for a kingdom sense port ?
No really. would that work?
or does it only support arm7 cpus too :/
because if will we just port sense 2.1 (2.3.3) from the desire s c:
i would do it! even if sense is a little sucky
we would spend some time on something then :3
anyone up for it?
Moon

If it possible, it would be excellent !

cartmanotfat said:
If it possible, it would be excellent !
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Yes c: i think it will be possible we can use stuff from the wildfire s since it has an arm11 or whatever cpu too :3
i know a little about porting i've helped with the GT540 sense port (which never worked out :/)

If a portage is possible, the base would that of HTC Salsa, or maybe the Desire ?

Sense defiantly will not port, miui may. i am not too sure. I can try give it a go once im done with porting the 2x

carlos118 said:
Sense defiantly will not port, miui may. i am not too sure. I can try give it a go once im done with porting the 2x
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Why not?
It worked fine on the P500 GT540 SGS DROID Defy But Look the P500 and GT540 (have/had them both) Have the same cpu and less ram than the blade so why not.?

Ubuntu Phone OS

As we know Ubuntu Phone OS was anounced in CES 2013..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YId_dwE99U
What do you guys think of it? Do you like it? Yes? No? And the most important question.. Could we have some hopes to see it on DHD? And would you like to use it on your DHD?

I would absolutely line to see this on the desire hd. Sadly thought desire hd doesn't really meet the requirements for it

Muikkuman said:
I would absolutely line to see this on the desire hd. Sadly thought desire hd doesn't really meet the requirements for it
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Never say never..=)

I'd like to see Ubuntu become available for the DHD. I'd definitely enjoy playing around with it. If Ubuntu for the PC could have easily run Adobe apps (out of the box) I would probably have been using it at home for the past few years. Would love to see it on our phones. It would help to breathe new life into the trusty DHD, if indeed the DHD can run it smoothly enough.

Muikkuman said:
I would absolutely line to see this on the desire hd. Sadly thought desire hd doesn't really meet the requirements for it
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Yeah the DHD doesn't reach the requirements but the never stoped developers for working hard and making it work. For Example " HTC HD2 "
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Canonical announced that the new Ubuntu OS would be available in two kinds of phones, one at the entry level and the other one called “High-end superphone."
The hardware requirements are quite acceptable. The Entry level Ubuntu smartphone needs to have at least a 1Ghz Cortex A9 (single core as the bare minimum), 512MB or 1GB memory, a 4-8GB eMMC + SD for storage, and Multi-touch capability.
The high-end Ubuntu "superphone" is a little more demanding and will need at least Quad-core A9 or Intel Atom processors, minimum 1GB for memory, minimum 32GB eMMC + SD for storage, and Multi-touch.
The difference between the two models will consist in what Canonical calls “Desktop convergence.” With the help of a dock and a monitor, the high-end Ubuntu "superphone" can be turned into a thin client for Ubuntu.
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despite the fact that QSD8255 architecture is simliar to Cortex A8, it easily reaches 1.5-1.7Ghz and with 700MB RAM it should be well above the minimum requirements, so performance shouldn't be an issue in any way..... Let's hope devs will succeed in integrating A8 based CPUs drivers.

I doubt, that it will be usefull. Just think about all the apps that support sharing with other OS and the SaaS through browsers. no need for DHD ubuntu here.

Ubuntu is a hell ride on desktop due to Unity. Hope it becomes joy ride on mobile phone.

Ahem
I do believe that Ubuntu stated
Our phones will use the same drivers that Android use
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I do hope I remember this correctly or that I didn't dream this up.
Hopefully, if I did remember, this means that we will not need to tinker with Ubuntu too much just to get it running
Edit: from beeb
BBC News said:
The new version has been designed to work on last and current-generation Android handsets which share the Linux kernel. This means Ubuntu can re-use existing software drivers to control the hardware.
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Fallon9111 said:
I do believe that Ubuntu stated
I do hope I remember this correctly or that I didn't dream this up.
Hopefully, if I did remember, this means that we will not need to tinker with Ubuntu too much just to get it running
Edit: from beeb
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that would be so awesome :good: .. lets hope someone will port the os to DHD

i really hope that this gets ported to our devices, and also i hope itl be ram-friendly, not like ubuntu on desktop pc's...

wow!
I'm waiting for a long time this rom ... hope that will be optimized for our phone and that is not too heavy to run

24ky said:
Yeah the DHD doesn't reach the requirements but the never stoped developers for working hard and making it work. For Example " HTC HD2 "
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Cotulla even got Windows RT running on it.

Would love to use it on my DHD. Awesome ROM.
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epic devices will defiantly get this rom ported and DHD is the king of epic \m/

DHD is amazing... A port will hopefully come sooner or later.
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if it will port for Desire HD , I'm gonna buy it !
i do love Ubuntu ! i have Mini HD but I've seen many fantastic ROM for DHD from 2.3.6 till 4.1 and now we'll have ubuntu ! WOW

aunctszz
Hey,
I think one of the main problem will be the disk space because I think it will be impossible to run a dual dual on a acceptable speed. But as on every OS, the apps will decide.
Anyway, it will be nice to see some players on the field of the market

I think Ubuntu Phone OS will work with DHD. Its Linux Kernel, Linux OS. Its would be great when they release the source code.
Just remember HTC Said about the Sense 4.0 it will not work correctly on the DHD, it will lag. Now the DHD has Sense 4.1, we also have jellybean and icecream sandwich.
For the DHD there is no such word as can't.

I think it would take a long time to port Ubuntu to DHD