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Hey Guys,
I was wondering that since Google is already sharing the Donut Love with G1's and Magic's when are we gonna see some Donut love for our lovely piece of Hardware we all know as HERO ...
I am guessing Htc is working on the 1.6 SDK provided by Google to integrate it with ROSIE, but i am thinking the Developers here are alot faster than the guys and HTC.
So can we get a Rosie with 1.6 which is rooted ofcourse but nothing else... no other modifications i mean.
Respect to all.
Cheeers
nadeemhasnaat said:
Hey Guys,
I was wondering that since Google is already sharing the Donut Love with G1's and Magic's when are we gonna see some Donut love for our lovely piece of Hardware we all know as HERO ...
I am guessing Htc is working on the 1.6 SDK provided by Google to integrate it with ROSIE, but i am thinking the Developers here are alot faster than the guys and HTC.
So can we get a Rosie with 1.6 which is rooted ofcourse but nothing else... no other modifications i mean.
Respect to all.
Cheeers
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Good question, I would love to see that as well... BUT I suppose it is not possible without the kernel sourse, unless Sprint's Hero comes out with 1.6 and then its ROM is ported to our European Heros. That's up to the devs!
Well the Sprint Hero HAS to come with Donut... It's CDMA, and that's only supported in Donut, so I'm almost 100% positive it will ship with Donut.
chaoscentral said:
Well the Sprint Hero HAS to come with Donut... It's CDMA, and that's only supported in Donut, so I'm almost 100% positive it will ship with Donut.
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That was what I thought. But Joshua @ Engadget told me that their Sprint Hero review unit only has Android 1.5 on it. Well, Android 1.6 added support for CDMA does not necessarily mean that one cannot write a driver for Android 1.5 to support CDMA.
But anyway, I do think that it is almost likely that HTC will release a 1.6 update for the Hero in a not too distance future.
The Google experience G1s and Magics are purely that - stock Cupcake ROMs. The Hero presents a slight challenge as HTC put a lot of love into the ROM, with the addition of SenseUI. Hopefully, it won't take that long to cook a Donut ROM with SenseUI, but just making the transition of the great innovations from HTC for the Hero will be the stumbling block for a Donut-based ROM.
HTC Response to my Donut question.
I asked when they'd release a ROM using Dognut ( 1.6 ) for the Hero.
Their reply:
Good Morning, HTC do not release the ROM updates. Google do. If you have any questions relating thier operating system, the updates, its benefits and release dates please visit www.android.com for further support. Here at HTC, we manufacture the hardware on the device and release hotfixes for when reported bugs needs resolution. If you have a technical support related query regarding the device, please do not hesitate to contact us again. Kind Regards, HTC Europe
This has constantly been my experience with HTC - ask them a question and they say contact Google.
J-Zeus said:
I asked when they'd release a ROM using Dognut ( 1.6 ) for the Hero.
Their reply:
Good Morning, HTC do not release the ROM updates. Google do. If you have any questions relating thier operating system, the updates, its benefits and release dates please visit www.android.com for further support. Here at HTC, we manufacture the hardware on the device and release hotfixes for when reported bugs needs resolution. If you have a technical support related query regarding the device, please do not hesitate to contact us again. Kind Regards, HTC Europe
This has constantly been my experience with HTC - ask them a question and they say contact Google.
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Man thats so frustrating innit. I am sure if we ask google, they wont comment either coz our hero is not with "GOOGLE EXPERIENCE" ..... what a load of cr*p
well i actually snooped around and heard a couple of ppl say that it should not be a difficult task for HTC to induce Rosie into 1.6, infact one of them even said " should be a peice of cake" so i am a hopless optimist and hopefully it'll be sent as an OTA upgrade or " HOTFIX " by HTC soon...
I'll call HTC too and see if i can get any more info out
update
Just got off the phone with a customer support officer from HTC UK. And she said that while they dont have the exact date on when HTC will issue and update bundled with Donut, It is under works and will be sooner rather than later..... now the waiting games begin
correct me if I'm wrong, but 1.6 doesn't bring that much for us Hero owners right? When the first announcements came I looked through the "Whats new" list and I didn't start shouting from excitement
dipje said:
correct me if I'm wrong, but 1.6 doesn't bring that much for us Hero owners right? When the first announcements came I looked through the "Whats new" list and I didn't start shouting from excitement
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well the only notable improvement might be of the speed and performance, although google didn't shout about it so i m thinking it'll be minimalistic ... however detailed battery usage, universal search and test to speech are a few things i wouldn't mind having....
But actually for me its just about getting the latest updates on the Android flagship device...
dipje said:
correct me if I'm wrong, but 1.6 doesn't bring that much for us Hero owners right? When the first announcements came I looked through the "Whats new" list and I didn't start shouting from excitement
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One benefit will be being able to run any future apps that require 1.6 (use 1.6-specific API features). We already have apps that run only on 1.5 or higher...
system-wide search feature would be nice...
I'm not sure if anyone has noticed this, but I signed up to point it out:
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/tattoo/specification.html
http://developer.htc.com/htc_tattoo_developer.html
The Tattoo will be shipping with Android 1.6, and it uses the Sense UI. That should mean that it isn't too far off for the Hero.
Looks promising! and the Tatoo is Due to launch orange UK this month
VPN and Global search are the two main features I am most excited about in the Donut
It's supposed to be faster also.
Does 1.6 not also include the improved App Store for Android?
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Does 1.6 not also include the improved App Store for Android?
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yes it does
http://drop.io/g1i9pj0 hero is getting donut....you might also be getting a snapdragon hero.
I installed donut on my girlfriends g1 yesterday and it seemed much faster than cupcake.
We need !
boygeniusreport.com/2009/10/16/android-2-0-screenshot-walkthrough/
Any indication about release date?
Hero support? That's actually the bad thing about hero. We will have to check if HTC decides to upgrade to the new android, while with Magic it will keep being supported..
Why would they update the Magic but not the Hero?
finisterre said:
Why would they update the Magic but not the Hero?
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Noob.
Please research before posting.
A vanilla Google os gets updates ota through their provider, while HTC has to make a hero build seperate
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Why would they update the Magic but not the Hero?
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cuz HTC made their version of Android using SenseUI so its not directly supported by Google. HTC will have to cook us up and update, test sense and release
I wouldn't worry too much about Eclair just yet because:
a) The Eclair development SDK hasn't been released yet.
b) We don't even have Donut!
Of course, if Eclair does ship before year end, there is always a chance that HTC might decide so skip Donut entirely, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Regards,
Dave
motorola are to start shippng phones running 2.0 from the beginning of november so htc may decide to skip donut.
http://www.t3.com/news/googles-eclair-android-2-0-update-arriving-soon?=41509
i reallyyy doubt that motorola will be shipping soon
id put an estimate at the years end
Could you not install 1.6 or 2.0 without HTC sense though? Whether it came from HTC or from Google.
Sorry if I'm being a "noob" but we don't all spent all our time playing with our phones and reading up on them. Some of us just like making old fashioned phone calls.
cymru said:
Could you not install 1.6 or 2.0 without HTC sense though? Whether it came from HTC or from Google.
Sorry if I'm being a "noob" but we don't all spent all our time playing with our phones and reading up on them. Some of us just like making old fashioned phone calls.
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I suppose it can be done. But i rather have 1.5 with sense than 1.6 / 2.0 without it. Ill wait for HTC since im just fine with what i have now
cymru said:
Could you not install 1.6 or 2.0 without HTC sense though? Whether it came from HTC or from Google.
Sorry if I'm being a "noob" but we don't all spent all our time playing with our phones and reading up on them. Some of us just like making old fashioned phone calls.
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If you just wanna make plain old phonecalls then why so interested in updates?
Thiesen said:
If you just wanna make plain old phonecalls then why so interested in updates?
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DITTO
1 thing to know btw.......
what exactly sense is? is it only the fancy thing with curve menu system and 7 home screens? or is it something integrated part of the android OS without which the OS cant even run?
i want to know this because for last 2 days i have been running without the sense home screen and it feels good with that simple and plain homescreen.
The Sens is the user interface that you c on your hero. i don't like the sens uit it slows down the phone. all the htc software for android are really really bad. i prefer the android plane OS.
HTC don't want to release the hero kernel, if they release it we will be able to install android OS without all the UI from htc.
you say you're running hero without sense home screen. you maybe don't see the home screen but it is still using your ram and running services on the background.
i'm looking forward to android 2.0 it looks great. and if you look @ www.droidoes.com you will see that verizon is gonna release their android 2.0 in november. but i still don't see any sdk for it what is weird :s.
the only thing we can do is to wait and see what happens next month
commodoor said:
The Sens is the user interface that you c on your hero. i don't like the sens uit it slows down the phone. all the htc software for android are really really bad. i prefer the android plane OS.
HTC don't want to release the hero kernel, if they release it we will be able to install android OS without all the UI from htc.
you say you're running hero without sense home screen. you maybe don't see the home screen but it is still using your ram and running services on the background.
i'm looking forward to android 2.0 it looks great. and if you look @ www.droidoes.com you will see that verizon is gonna release their android 2.0 in november. but i still don't see any sdk for it what is weird :s.
the only thing we can do is to wait and see what happens next month
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My guess is that the November date is just a date for a press conference or announcement of the phone, with the actual release date comes a month or two later. Besides the Android 2.0, it is nice to see that the hardware specification of smartphones is finally moving forward, i.e. manufacturers finally move to faster CPU, more memory, and bigger screen with higher resolution, rather than keep recycling the Qualcomm 528Mhz CPU and HVGA screen that powered to many devices over the last few years.
Is the locale language in menus, keyboards and dictionaries, a part of sence. Or would that be possible to have in a more native android version (like magic).
> I suppose it can be done. But i rather have 1.5 with sense than 1.6 / 2.0 without it.
> Ill wait for HTC since im just fine with what i have now
Personally, I'm dying for 1.6 because I feel handicapped & shackled by the soft keyboard, and urgently need the Gesture support from 1.6 to do Graffiti-like handwriting recognition. If Gestures were implemented as a shared lib that could be installed to 1.5 in addition to being an inherent part of 1.6 I wouldn't mind as much, but as it stands with 1.5, text input is just painfully frustrating, and has really put me off from exploring things I'd otherwise be spending lots of time playing with. I shudder to even think about trying to launch a Perl or Python app from the shell one painfully-fighting-with-prediction-and-losing-badly letter at a time. Prediction and autocorrection might be tolerable for t3xt msg3z, but falls flat on its face and dies a horrible death when you're trying to type something in camelCase with inline.punctuation.
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Thiesen said:
If you just wanna make plain old phonecalls then why so interested in updates?
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Cos 1.6 has, and i assume 2.0, a voice activated calling feature...
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Cos 1.6 has, and i assume 2.0, a voice activated calling feature...
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The original T-Mobile US G1 firmware (Android 1.0) had a voice dialler! Are you sure you're not thinking of the text-to-speech engine that's in 1.6?
Regards,
Dave
Anyone knows if 32a is getting 2.x? When will it be released......
updates:
With reference to This Thread
The HTC Magic will be upgradable to 2.1 by mid-year.
http://twitter.com/RogersHelps/status/10927130422
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Yes, by May 2010 we should all have it on our Magic (if HTC keeps up to its promises).
rawr. may seems so far now...
Per this link, it will be June or July by the time it makes it to the public. Maybe it'll leak before that time...
http://androidforums.com/rogers/52738-we-met-rogers-good.html
Got this off HTC Singapore Facebook Wall.
Dear XXX, the Hero Upgrade would be in May 2010. For Magic and Tattoo users, there would not be any upgrade. Please call our service hotline at 1800 238 7788 if you have queries. Cheers
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Hi XXX, as confirmed by our product manager, there will not be any andriod 2.1 update for Magic and Tattoo. So sorry if any of the teams had give you a wrong idea. My sincere apologies.
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What kind of service is this?
And do they know the difference between hero and magic is the camera..
He may have meant the magic 32b, which is not getting an update.
From what I know, Singapore's Magic is 32A... Oh well, hope he's referring to 32Bs...
Can anybody tell what version of sense is this?
http://www.noverca.it/shop-aggiorna-htc-magic-con-sense
This is what has been said: (coming straight from HTC, not from any official channels though, this has been posted on phandroid forums from a HTC rep. This agreement was started between HTC and Rogers)
By mid-year, HTC will issue an upgrade to Android 2.1, including the highly acclaimed HTC Sense experience for the HTC Magic.
However, due to certain limitations on the HTC Dream, the software path for the HTC Dream will be terminated after the next Android 1.5 update. While we regret not being able to offer the same updates to both devices, by bringing this upgrade to the HTC Magic, we are delivering the best solution possible given the situation at hand.
We also want to emphasize that the situation with HTC Dream and HTC Magic devices is true across markets, and is not limited to Canada. While “Google Experience” devices built on the same platform (like the T-Mobile G1) do have different upgrade paths – this is due to the use of a stock Android build, rather than a custom build used on the HTC Dream and HTC Magic.
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I wouldn't trust too much on facebook pages or HTC support channels.
dione1200 said:
Can anybody tell what version of sense is this?
http://www.noverca.it/shop-aggiorna-htc-magic-con-sense
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There's only one version of Sense for HTC Magic. Sense is just the framework, not the telephone firmware. As of now, officially, there's is only Android 1.5 with HTC Sense. The Android 2.1 release will include an updated version of the Sense user interface.
The picture looks like the theme is modified for the network supplier.
fregor said:
There's only one version of Sense for HTC Magic. Sense is just the framework, not the telephone firmware. As of now, officially, there's is only Android 1.5 with HTC Sense. The Android 2.1 release will include an updated version of the Sense user interface.
The picture looks like the theme is modified for the network supplier.
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Yes, that's what I meant. I wonder if it's 1.5 or 2.1
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Yes, that's what I meant. I wonder if it's 1.5 or 2.1
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Then it's probably 1.5 since 2.1 isn't released yet.
Head over to HTC Hero forums. They have got official 2.1 with sense UI for hero. Can somebody port the official release for 32A magic? Waiting for magic to happen from any great developer.
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Head over to HTC Hero forums. They have got official 2.1 with sense UI for hero. Can somebody port the official release for 32A magic? Waiting for magic to happen from any great developer.
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be patient, most probably they're working on it
Dammit, Rogers just release the **** already!
work started!!!
A lot of people are having trouble with that ROM; they are saying that it is bogging down their phone and making it a "slow POS". Hopefully we can fix that
htc magic for rogers already have official rom ?
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htc magic for rogers already have official rom ?
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You mean the 2.1 with Sense? Latest rumors says that Rogers will test it/release it in the end of june...or is that rumor dead?
I don`t think so ... It looks too real http://twitter.com/RogersMary/status/14765494149
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I don`t think so ... It looks too real http://twitter.com/RogersMary/status/14765494149
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Oh, they'll start "testing" it on end of june, sooo ... like ... we have on October or so
I have tested it last night with our device, with most features enabled.
it is faster than legend port. but it is slower than eris port. and...
what surprised me..., it has more bugs than eris port and legend port. both aosp kernel driver and htc's will break something, so I need to do some repairing.
and I am worry about the port jobs in the future. HTC modified more and more basic libs in android layer. maybe replacing libs will become harder and harder.
my biggest interest now is the Dalvik and new webkit in 2.2, but we can't get the sources at current
I have very few time, so I don't know if I should upload my current version, or I should test it more?
it have a bug which make me sick, bluetooth component wants to update database again and again. but this bug is not appeared every time, so a reboot will "fix" it. but I have very bad feeling with it.
and I don't know how to make default APN list too. I am not good at these things. I just put it into /etc as usual, but it didn't work. I have to add my APN manually it seems that this version is for specified mobile operator in Taiwan.
only thing (I have found) which is better than eris port, it uses same graphics as legend.
FirstNoobToBrickHisPhone said:
Dammit, Rogers just release the **** already!
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rogers cant release it till htc gives it to them at the end of june....
its not rogers its htc we need to release it...
a release coming real soon
seems to be fastest
"a release coming real soon
seems to be fastest"
Can't wait to see if it is worth it
Mod. edit: not dev related, moved to general
Ok so here goes i'm thinking of working on a NAND ROM based on 2.3.1 (Gingerbread) Build: GRH78 FOR THE HTC HD2...but guess what...... i'm gonna try and throw HTC SENSE into the mix and see if i can get them to play nicely together....since this could take some time i just wanted to know if anyone is interested at all???? Just Post and ask if your interested......this ROM is going to based off ofMDJ's CyanogenMod 7 v. 2.3 with MDJ's Kernel: MDJ S10.3 OC (or whatever new Kernal MDJ releases between now and when i get this rom complete) and the Desire HD Sense including the Sense Camera...(THESE ARE MY GOALS FOR THIS ROM)I Will Be Posting Frequently Since I Will Need Testers to find all the little bugs that i miss....
( I WILL ONLY POST ROMS THAT I THINK ARE SAFE...BUT THERE IS THE CHANCE THAT IT STILL CAN BE BRICKED SO BY FLASHING MY ROM YOU KNOW THAT YOUR VOIDING YOUR WARRANTY AND I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU BRICK YOUR DEVICE )
EDIT: Im Gonna Try My Hardest to have a Version posted so everyone can play with it by 01/15/2011 - 01/16/2011....
EDIT: I just sent a message to cortulla....mainly if he has any tips or tricks that might help out with this build....01/14/2011
EDIT: Ok I'm sorry for not posting for so long i haven't forgot about you guys...i'm still working on this rom..its harder than anticipated...plus having the free time to do it gets tricky...work is having mandatory overtime since the iphone is being released on verizon...(SCARED MUCH AT&T????)..SO JUST WANTED TO UPDATE AND SAY I DIDN'T DITCH THIS PROJECT.......02/03/2011
Thanks Everyone and remember we couldn't do any of this if it wasn't for Google, Cyanogen, Cotulla & (DFT), MDJ, Markinus, gauner1986, danij3l, gpc, LeTama, Rajko and others...and if i forgot to mention you im sorry just yell at me and i'll be sure to add you to the list =-)....
Reserved...for future postings
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i am interested..
that would be great if gingerbread will have sense
ive loved to run it on my hd2
Count me in as beta tester...
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That is so funny, I have been searching yesterday for something like this .
Count me in.
WTH, why not
We are always looking for something new to put in our phones
Good luck and count me in...
Santroph
Also very interested...
And I'd like to be a beta tester.
Totally interested in this. Gingerbread has come along a great length in the last copuple of days. Latest stock release dated the 14th shows working lights and usb! Would be awsome to have sense built on top!
Please work on it man
Good luck. It's almost impossible; most of sense is dependant on the HTC framework and most libraries, which are in turn interdependent with the android version they run on (2.2). You pretty much have to replace the whole build with 2.2, which, in effect, makes the build a 2.2.
It would be easier to add to 2.2 the keyboard and animations from Gingerbread, along with the launcher. It's close, but it's not really 2.3 either.
Good luck anyway.
for me it's enough to have the desire hd cam on gingerbread. will it ever be possible to provide only the hd cam tool?
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Good luck. It's almost impossible; most of sense is dependant on the HTC framework and most libraries, which are in turn interdependent with the android version they run on (2.2). You pretty much have to replace the whole build with 2.2, which, in effect, makes the build a 2.2.
It would be easier to add to 2.2 the keyboard and animations from Gingerbread, along with the launcher. It's close, but it's not really 2.3 either.
Good luck anyway.
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+1.
It's hardly possible to get sense rosie.apk (the launcher) working on stock android... (afaik nobody has done it to date)
plus I bet its impossible to do it on a different android version.
Yet I would be interested.
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for me it's enough to have the desire hd cam on gingerbread. will it ever be possible to provide only the hd cam tool?
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Why?
Use Camera 360 or a similar app. They do the same (may look worse but who cares?)
(maybe no facial recognition - yet do you really need that?)
it seems to me that Gingerbread mostly enhanced aosp anyways, it tweaked the UI and didn't really have that many enhancements.
If you could just port the Gingerbread keyboard, icon set, Nexus S LWPs, and the screen-off animation to a Sense build then you basically have it.
(may look worse but who cares?)
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yep, and that's exactly what i want: a good looking camera app. technically i'm satisfied with the gingerbread cam, but it looks awful in compare to hd cam app...
I'm dreaming of it !!!
Bring it on!
I'd love to give sense a try on Gingerbread!
2.2 Sense ?
Sense HD would be cool but I imagine more work
I'll look forward to it !
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sure man it will be revolutionary start .... good luck ...
Absolutely impossible. You need a HTC leaked ruu I tell you that. Unless you are a fremework wiz. If you are, 10-90 chance. Good luck. You may make history with it.
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"if" you're able to pull it off, I sure will try it out