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[Q] OS - Desire HD

Would it be possible to put a cooked WM ROM on Desire HD? I ask this because I plan to buy one and I only have experience with WM (on my Kaiser and HD2)...

Conrad-007 said:
Would it be possible to put a cooked WM ROM on Desire HD? I ask this because I plan to buy one and I only have experience with WM (on my Kaiser and HD2)...
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i dnt think its possible..
since u have hd2, load up desire hd android build and start getting the feel of android.. Its not that complicated to get used to

...alternative?
Thanks jjblaster3. Considering this, is there a "best phone" which would "accept" both OS with decent, comparable performance?

Conrad-007 said:
Thanks jjblaster3. Considering this, is there a "best phone" which would "accept" both OS with decent, comparable performance?
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currently HD2 ftw(thanks to the awesome beast, snapdragon processor)..
supporting 3 OS's; winmo, linux and hopefully soon to come windows phone 7..
notice that i used the term linux instead of android coz linux is general term for all the distro's (android, ubuntu, meego, etc)
currently only ubuntu and android are present but i heard people were starting to work on meego however no progress so far

ok, understood... but... the desire hd will also have a snapdragon processor, so is this the only reason?
The fact is, the HD2 was a gift for my wife and she seems to be happy with it, so I would need another device, hopefully with even better performances and flexibility concerning the usable OS (I am more "involved" in the technical domain, wishing also to try some programming/cooking)...

Conrad-007 said:
ok, understood... but... the desire hd will also have a snapdragon processor, so is this the only reason?
The fact is, the HD2 was a gift for my wife and she seems to be happy with it, so I would need another device, hopefully with even better performances and flexibility concerning the usable OS (I am more "involved" in the technical domain, wishing also to try some programming/cooking)...
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the fact that most of the other new android phones like the nexus one and evo 4g are based on snapdragon similar to hd2, makes porting drivers n all much simpler..
the fact that hd2 has a snapdragon, makes the performance quite similar (or shud i say better compared to all those other devices having msm 7*** processors, like the kaiser for example)
the desire hd snapdragon is abit different (i think its better) but well the android build runs perfectly well on hd2 (maybe that it just demands a bit more ram than other sense builds for its extra visual impressions, rotation support n all) but nothing that the hd2 cant handle
well i guess the current winmo phone out there with the best performance is the hd2..
i dont think they will get any better in terms of winmo (havent heard of any new devices apart from the chinese OBOE which is similar to hd2)
i cant say for sure if any of the future android or windows phone 7 devices will have the same fate (dual booting/triple booting OS's)
as for now i see no hope in android being capable of doing that (unless maybe its just dual booting linux, i read thats possible)
and as for windows phone 7, we just have to wait for its release first (if there's no delays its gonna b this month) and then for the devs at xda to try and find ways to make dual booting to android for it possible.. ONLY TIME WILL TELL.
so my suggestion would be to wait until you get to see all the possibilities among different varieties and then make the ultimate choice..
(as for me im stuck with the hd2 and wont b able to replace it anytime soon, just a 16 yr old student without a job so i consider myself lucky to even have 1, but my love for this phone increases day by day)

The Desire HD IS in some parts better than our beloved HD2 but for running another OS it's the best device so far! As mentioned you can boot Windows Mobile, Android and Ubuntu! Meego is a 'Work in Progress' and even Cotulla seems to have succesfully bootet Windows Phone 7 through his own bootloader! What other mobile device could handle so much OS's?
See, the Desire HD has a QSD8255 (45 nm), 768 MB RAM, 2 GB ROM, a 8 MP camera with 720p video recording and the new Adreno-205 GPU! The HD2 has a QSD8250 (65 nm), 576 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM (1024 for US model), 5 MB cam without 720p video recording! You see, the Desire HD HAS better hardware but our HD2 can handle the Android OS from Desire HD, you only need to look into the Android section for HD2! Only cam isn't working till now but it will in the future, I think!
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You can compare both devices here: HTC Desire HD and HTC HD2

[Q] Cupcake 1.5 on HD2 ??

Enjoying ginger bread,
We will soon be using Honeycomb, but what about cupacke ??????
I would be amazed to have Android CupCake 1.5 running on our HD2 / HD7 / Desire
Please developers.....

Why in the world would you want cupcake over gingerbread/froyo?

First rembemer this: Honeycomb NEVER goes to HD2 and etc onecore processors devices!
Why?
Because honeycomb written specially for dualcore and onecore processors dont have idea what todo with honeycomb.
For these onecore devices goes soon gingerbread 2.4 aka icecream ( icecream name was leaked and google was rejected this name ).
Gingerbread 2.4 is actually honeycomb but written specially to onecore devices.
Correct me someone if i understand something wrong.
About cupcake i dont know anything. Sorry
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First rembemer this: Honeycomb NEVER goes to HD2 and etc onecore processors devices!
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Sorry, but that's simply untrue mate. It is optimised, visually, for tablet devices. Other that that it will run fine on phones.

johncmolyneux said:
Sorry, but that's simply untrue mate. It is optimised, visually, for tablet devices. Other that that it will run fine on phones.
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Thanks mate. Now i have clear things. Seems i just readed so much different news and leaks.
Anyway i dont see reason and needless port honeycomb to hd2 or phones. Its my opinion only.
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ameyanaik said:
Enjoying ginger bread,
We will soon be using Honeycomb, but what about cupacke ??????
I would be amazed to have Android CupCake 1.5 running on our HD2 / HD7 / Desire
Please developers.....
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I don't think that anyone is possible to run Android 1.5 and nobody will cook something, because everything has to get ported to 1.5 that you can use it. I know you want to run it because of nostalgic purposes like people want to run windows 1.0 on their computers. Just search if you can find a 1.5 sdk and you can emulate 1.5 on your computer. for your phone, no way...

Thanks for all your replies...
Thank you all for replies,
i wanna get hands on cupcake, so to get iphone like rotation...
any ways, no a big issue....
And about HoneyComb,
Dev has managed to run HC on DesireHD as well as on Evo..
So, there is an chance to get it on our HD2..
I know our brilliant dev's can easily figure out

will the future bring windows phone 7 to the desire hd?

hello guys
i just wanted to know if it will be possible to put windows phone7 as a second system on the dhd...i know i know windows phone 7 isnt a free sourcecode..but some people get it right on the hd 2..
so i was wondering if it wouldnt work for the dhd too?

at first: YES. it is possible.
BUT: it's a LOT of effort to port WP7 to the DHD and probably no one would do it.
so there would probably never be a working WP7 version on the DHD unless you get a really good DEV to work on this

I think there is a launcher called Windows phone 7. It looks exactly the same!
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App

imo Windows 7 is not necessary on DHD.
Gingerbread is great.

im pretty sure WP7 wont come to the DHD as we first of all need the source code - which we most likely wont get.
+ imo the reason why we have working wp7 builds for the HD2 is, because it already has windows framework on it, which makes it way easier to port a newer version on it.

My question would be, will windows fans ever work out how to use search on XDA?, please this question has been asked time and time again.

Sry for the question bro actually im using revolution hd 5.11 and the windows phone 7 launcher the combination of windowd design and android software is great

I doubt it will. Even though WP 7 can be ported, almost all services in WP 7 will unuseable. The one that Im waiting is Meego or Ubuntu fully ported to DHD.

When I visit a big online store (which begins with an a ;P ) at this time all wp7 devices are really cheap xD. when you want wp7 I would recommend you to buy a htc hd7 for example. At the moment you will miss something like WOW effect of something new . Tested wp7 a while on my old hd2...there are many things missing (in OS itsself) and the hype came down after a short time after release of dft.

It would be good if can make it dual boot...

identities said:
I doubt it will. Even though WP 7 can be ported, almost all services in WP 7 will unuseable. The one that Im waiting is Meego or Ubuntu fully ported to DHD.
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I fully quote your post.
I hope ubuntu will be ported on DHD.

Can we have symbian on the DHD?
Just kidding lol!

sgroimax said:
I fully quote your post.
I hope ubuntu will be ported on DHD.
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I think there is ported ubuntu... Look in development section (i'm new don't believe me 100% :$)
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I just installed launcher 7 from market , I tested out the free one for an hour or so and was so happy I brought the donate version, its ad free with some extra options, now I have custom multi colour wp7 tiles on my homescreen, its great, I highly recommend it ;-)
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The next HD2

Hello everyone,
i really like the HD2, because you can flash every actual OS from Android to Ubuntu and Windows.
Does the HD2 have any special feature that it supports so many OS, or is it just that developers focused this device specially.
But now the Hardware of the HD2 is getting old. So will there be a new device which be able to be so flexible like the HD2?

+1 ... im interested too

+1 thanks!

Well,If we look back to the history of HD2 , it was born with winmo 6.5 which soon died out.For such a unique and powerful (expensive too) device to just been thrown to dustbin - it was hard for the users,so a lot of interest on how to make it survive - obviously by porting newer OSs.Once it made so , there was no look back ,even now it is one of the most interesting piece for developers.But will there be another HD2 , I don't think so.With so many smart phones in market - more powerful by day ,we will rather move on ...But HD2 development may last as long as its hardware is compatible enough...

win98 said:
Hello everyone,
i really like the HD2, because you can flash every actual OS from Android to Ubuntu and Windows.
Does the HD2 have any special feature that it supports so many OS, or is it just that developers focused this device specially.
But now the Hardware of the HD2 is getting old. So will there be a new device which be able to be so flexible like the HD2?
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hi!
i had an HD2 before, and i loved it. an i still do.
Most of us old HD2 users have upgraded to Sensation (some also to the Desire HD).
The thing is HD2 doesent have any special feature that makes it able to run different things - just a great community with the passion and drive to make all these different OS work. So what you need is a phone thats "popular", which will creat a great community as well.
Ive got the Sensation, and it got plenty of diffrent roms you can install... right now im on Android 4.0.3 with Sense 3.6 - and it runs AWESOMELY! soon we will port the new sense 4.0 also

i hope that Ubuntu would be ported to )

fulltank said:
Well,If we look back to the history of HD2 , it was born with winmo 6.5 which soon died out.For such a unique and powerful (expensive too) device to just been thrown to dustbin - it was hard for the users,so a lot of interest on how to make it survive - obviously by porting newer OSs.Once it made so , there was no look back ,even now it is one of the most interesting piece for developers.But will there be another HD2 , I don't think so.With so many smart phones in market - more powerful by day ,we will rather move on ...But HD2 development may last as long as its hardware is compatible enough...
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i think the hardware will be compatible long time. The matter is, that you cant develop a rom which will have dual core, super amoled display, better resolution, nfc, 4g and so on.
Respect for the HD2 that it could mess up so many years with any new smartphone, but i think in future this will be hard.
So, what i am going to say is, that xda, or (nearly) all developers should focus a new phone for porting rom and that stuff.
For example to wait for a new wp apollo phone, which will support multicore and higher resolution.
If it is just the focus of the developers which made the HD2 so popular, it would be great, to name a newer device as "the next HD2"
(sounds like the next uri geller^^)

I'd like to see the first WP7 dual phone become the next HD2. Most of the current WP7 phones are still single core, and while that's might be good for now, I'd rather have a dual core in my next phone, since I'd probably be using it for a good two years or so. A dual core WP7 phone+Android ports+Ubuntu ports = perfect? I think yes.

ElectroBeijing said:
I'd like to see the first WP7 dual phone become the next HD2. Most of the current WP7 phones are still single core, and while that's might be good for now, I'd rather have a dual core in my next phone, since I'd probably be using it for a good two years or so. A dual core WP7 phone+Android ports+Ubuntu ports = perfect? I think yes.
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yeah i want the same.
there are rumours about an hd8 with apollo.
apollo will have new res, nfc and multicore support.
i hope this phone will replace the hd2 with dignity
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Phone-Powered-HTC-HD8-Emerges-244543.shtml

I don't get it: Why would I need a dual/quadcore? My HD2 works without any lags, I can't find any difference regarding the overall userexperience compared to a SGSII etc. Are the games a main reason for the more powerful hardware?

x911 said:
I don't get it: Why would I need a dual/quadcore? My HD2 works without any lags, I can't find any difference regarding the overall userexperience compared to a SGSII etc. Are the games a main reason for the more powerful hardware?
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Well mine does as well, I'm on ICS and underclocked actually, to 768 Mhz and it's smooth. However, I want to be able to play some more intensive games [ like GTAIII] and whatnot without having to used a dumbed down data for it. Also, while it's not that big a deal for me, it would be kinda nice to be able to play back 1080p video. But for now, my HD2 is still awesome; I have a friend with a Droid X 2 and one with a Droid 3, and there's nothing they can do with their 2011 phone I can't do on my 2009 phone!
win98 said:
yeah i want the same.
there are rumours about an hd8 with apollo.
apollo will have new res, nfc and multicore support.
i hope this phone will replace the hd2 with dignity
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Phone-Powered-HTC-HD8-Emerges-244543.shtml
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I'm starting my reading up on the skills needed for Android developing, I really wanna take part in making the 'next HD2' as awesome as the current one!

HTC Edge/Endeavour will surely be the next developers phone, no?

I doubt there will ever be such a phone again. The industry is consolidating around two OSs (Android and iOS). Windows Phone has an outside chance of becoming relevant again next year.
I say keep your HD2 going until the Edge/Endeavor comes along. I've got the new Galaxy Nexus and, I must say, the experience of Ice Cream Sandwich on my HD2 is not much different to the Galaxy Nexus with its dual cores. Wait just a little bit longer.

Dont what ever any of you do sell your HD2's I sold mine about a year ago and have been through copious Windows phones, Android Phones even Iphones...nothing comes close to the diversity of this phone, I miss the ability to switch from Android to WP...
The community and development is second to none.
I currently us a Galaxy s2, OK the development is very good for Android Roms, OK its got an amazing screen and very powerful, but really never feels like I am in control of what it can do, I would love to try the WP7.5 but would hate to be restricted to just one operating system, they are all boring after a while, the HD2 allows you so much more

+ 1 from me. HD2 is unique. I love it as it is a member of my family...

THUDUK said:
Dont what ever any of you do sell your HD2's I sold mine about a year ago and have been through copious Windows phones, Android Phones even Iphones...nothing comes close to the diversity of this phone, I miss the ability to switch from Android to WP...
The community and development is second to none.
I currently us a Galaxy s2, OK the development is very good for Android Roms, OK its got an amazing screen and very powerful, but really never feels like I am in control of what it can do, I would love to try the WP7.5 but would hate to be restricted to just one operating system, they are all boring after a while, the HD2 allows you so much more
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ive moved to the galaxy note and have kept the hd2 but wouldnt even entertain using it now, unless something happens to the note
main purpose is that it works, unlike on the hd2 where something dont work or are slow to work due to non native driver support, the devs are fantastic in what they have done for the device, but im actually glad im not swapping/updating roms every week

Its on the move but is Windows phone 8 [Apollo] possible for our old HD2?

well our phone has just been amazing knowing that the past three years there have been major developments improving our phone's ability. Thanks to the devs android, WP7, ubuntu is now possible (and meego well almost) but MS has just relased windows phone 8 for development and it has many potential features like native code and external slot features, mango apps are even compatible..
So now I wonder (what DFT have to say about this) could this new OS be possibly ported in our device? what do you guys think?

They are saying that existing phones won't be upgraded...are there real technical limitations in play here? If the new "shared core" of Win8/Windows Phone 8 just doesn't support the hardware we have, then I'm not sure there is much hope. Maybe an expert can weigh in here...
At a minimum we can probably get WP7.8, but that's literally the new start screen and nothing else from what I gather.

Apparently all WP7 devices will be upgraded. If this is true we might see a WP8 ROM.

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Apparently all WP7 devices will be upgraded. If this is true we might see a WP8 ROM.
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Microsoft said that's not the case.
I feel sorry for those who brought the Lumia 900 for $700ish (aud) which just got released here (Australia) and now they can't get Apollo.

old windows phones will get an upgrade but its called 7.8 not 8. i'm guessing there's a hardware limitation because there really isn't any other reason to screw over all the current windows phone owners specially lumia, but then again Microsoft said wp7 is not compatible with hd2 ...

MTN_HD2 said:
old windows phones will get an upgrade but its called 7.8 not 8. i'm guessing there's a hardware limitation because there really isn't any other reason to screw over all the current windows phone owners specially lumia, but then again Microsoft said wp7 is not compatible with hd2 ...
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Essentially WP7.8 will be WP8 minus the hardware-specific features such as the multi-core support and the NFC things. From what I've heard it will have exactly the same UI everywhere else.

based on the specs of HTC Rio, I could say WP8 is possible for our phones!

Nigeldg said:
Essentially WP7.8 will be WP8 minus the hardware-specific features such as the multi-core support and the NFC things. From what I've heard it will have exactly the same UI everywhere else.
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It will just be like a WP8 theme for WP7. WP7.8 won't run any WP8 apps at all.
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based on the specs of HTC Rio, I could say WP8 is possible for our phones!
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HTC Rio uses a Snapdragon S4 dual-core processor while the HD2 only has a Snapdragon S1. I would worry that the WP8 user experience might not be so good on the old Snapdragon S1. However, I think the bigger obstacle is WP8 is supposed to require DirectX10 while the HD2 GPU is an Adreno 200 which only supports DirectX9.

GnatGoSplat said:
It will just be like a WP8 theme for WP7. WP7.8 won't run any WP8 apps at all.
HTC Rio uses a Snapdragon S4 dual-core processor while the HD2 only has a Snapdragon S1. I would worry that the WP8 user experience might not be so good on the old Snapdragon S1. However, I think the bigger obstacle is WP8 is supposed to require DirectX10 while the HD2 GPU is an Adreno 200 which only supports DirectX9.
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yeah that will be the problem but I think there will be ways to circumvent it just like the touch drivers for the WP7. In general I see it with minor set backs in speed but it would be functional

drmodify said:
yeah that will be the problem but I think there will be ways to circumvent it just like the touch drivers for the WP7. In general I see it with minor set backs in speed but it would be functional
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That would be great, I guess I will hold onto my HD2 until someone like Cotulla says it can or can not be done.

Not to break your heart but to clear your mind
Well here's the evidence we needed for HD2
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So to some of the users that still have questions about Windows Phone 8 on our HD2:
There are no drivers for the windows 8 kernel available. Also Secure Boot for the WinRT kernel might pose issues
We only made it this far because WP7 is based on the WinCE kernel (as Windows Mobile was), the similairity with the HTC HD7 and beta drivers were maybe developed for platform development/testing purposes back in 2009/2010
After sticking with the HD2 for about 3 years and actively updating, I think a Windows 8 device will be my next upgrade.
So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!
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the verdict:
WP7.8 Possible
WP8: not possible
any helpful intellectual inputs on this guys?

To add some hope though
check this out! look at paragraph 3!
Microsoft’s senior marketing manager for Windows Phone, Greg Sullivan, says that it's not impossible to port WP8 on older devices, but the cost of doing that would be very high and the benefit very little
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So I guess there is some hope afterall, mods will decide on this :good:

drmodify said:
Well here's the evidence we needed for HD2
the verdict:
WP7.8 Possible
WP8: not possible
any helpful intellectual inputs on this guys?
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Well, I never heard of "kid1988", but I don't get around much. Is he a reputable source of tech info like Cotulla?

GnatGoSplat said:
Well, I never heard of "kid1988", but I don't get around much. Is he a reputable source of tech info like Cotulla?
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he's not a mod but a long time HD2 experienced user. You can check his profile out but for me he seems legit. Anyway the good thing is there still is hope

I see. Kid1988 might know his stuff, and I mean no offense to him when I say this, but I will wait till the HD2 guru master Cotulla says WP8 is a no-go. After all, he was the one that brought WP7 to the HD2 and knows how to write custom SPLs and bootloaders.

drmodify said:
check this out! look at paragraph 3!
So I guess there is some hope afterall, mods will decide on this :good:
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WP8 enables multi-core support, higher resolution screens, NFC, microSD card support and so on
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This alone would be reason to port WP8. I guess if there will be MicroSD support, this would mean that the cards wouldn't be encrypted, and would make things for WP+SD Android users much, much easier. There wouldn't be so much partitioning and stuff involved.