[Q] OS - Desire HD - Windows Mobile

Would it be possible to put a cooked WM ROM on Desire HD? I ask this because I plan to buy one and I only have experience with WM (on my Kaiser and HD2)...

Conrad-007 said:
Would it be possible to put a cooked WM ROM on Desire HD? I ask this because I plan to buy one and I only have experience with WM (on my Kaiser and HD2)...
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i dnt think its possible..
since u have hd2, load up desire hd android build and start getting the feel of android.. Its not that complicated to get used to

...alternative?
Thanks jjblaster3. Considering this, is there a "best phone" which would "accept" both OS with decent, comparable performance?

Conrad-007 said:
Thanks jjblaster3. Considering this, is there a "best phone" which would "accept" both OS with decent, comparable performance?
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currently HD2 ftw(thanks to the awesome beast, snapdragon processor)..
supporting 3 OS's; winmo, linux and hopefully soon to come windows phone 7..
notice that i used the term linux instead of android coz linux is general term for all the distro's (android, ubuntu, meego, etc)
currently only ubuntu and android are present but i heard people were starting to work on meego however no progress so far

ok, understood... but... the desire hd will also have a snapdragon processor, so is this the only reason?
The fact is, the HD2 was a gift for my wife and she seems to be happy with it, so I would need another device, hopefully with even better performances and flexibility concerning the usable OS (I am more "involved" in the technical domain, wishing also to try some programming/cooking)...

Conrad-007 said:
ok, understood... but... the desire hd will also have a snapdragon processor, so is this the only reason?
The fact is, the HD2 was a gift for my wife and she seems to be happy with it, so I would need another device, hopefully with even better performances and flexibility concerning the usable OS (I am more "involved" in the technical domain, wishing also to try some programming/cooking)...
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the fact that most of the other new android phones like the nexus one and evo 4g are based on snapdragon similar to hd2, makes porting drivers n all much simpler..
the fact that hd2 has a snapdragon, makes the performance quite similar (or shud i say better compared to all those other devices having msm 7*** processors, like the kaiser for example)
the desire hd snapdragon is abit different (i think its better) but well the android build runs perfectly well on hd2 (maybe that it just demands a bit more ram than other sense builds for its extra visual impressions, rotation support n all) but nothing that the hd2 cant handle
well i guess the current winmo phone out there with the best performance is the hd2..
i dont think they will get any better in terms of winmo (havent heard of any new devices apart from the chinese OBOE which is similar to hd2)
i cant say for sure if any of the future android or windows phone 7 devices will have the same fate (dual booting/triple booting OS's)
as for now i see no hope in android being capable of doing that (unless maybe its just dual booting linux, i read thats possible)
and as for windows phone 7, we just have to wait for its release first (if there's no delays its gonna b this month) and then for the devs at xda to try and find ways to make dual booting to android for it possible.. ONLY TIME WILL TELL.
so my suggestion would be to wait until you get to see all the possibilities among different varieties and then make the ultimate choice..
(as for me im stuck with the hd2 and wont b able to replace it anytime soon, just a 16 yr old student without a job so i consider myself lucky to even have 1, but my love for this phone increases day by day)

The Desire HD IS in some parts better than our beloved HD2 but for running another OS it's the best device so far! As mentioned you can boot Windows Mobile, Android and Ubuntu! Meego is a 'Work in Progress' and even Cotulla seems to have succesfully bootet Windows Phone 7 through his own bootloader! What other mobile device could handle so much OS's?
See, the Desire HD has a QSD8255 (45 nm), 768 MB RAM, 2 GB ROM, a 8 MP camera with 720p video recording and the new Adreno-205 GPU! The HD2 has a QSD8250 (65 nm), 576 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM (1024 for US model), 5 MB cam without 720p video recording! You see, the Desire HD HAS better hardware but our HD2 can handle the Android OS from Desire HD, you only need to look into the Android section for HD2! Only cam isn't working till now but it will in the future, I think!
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You can compare both devices here: HTC Desire HD and HTC HD2

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HD3=HD2

So T-Mobile is said to be having a WP7 event in NYC.. that they would probably be unveiling some WP7 devices maybe.. I Personally Hope its the HD3-7 whatever.
I had a thought that besides keeping the production cost down with the HD7 by using pretty much identical Specs to the HD2.. So who is to say they did this on purpose besides being cheap... With it using the Same specs as the HD2 it will be easy to pass WP7 onto the HD2 and vise versa with the HD7... I mean Android and for the heck of it WM6 on the HD7???
HTC is watching this Forum closely... I think that be cool giving us loyal HD2 owners a taste of WP7 and as well as Future HD7 owners android and WM6
October 11th!
**This is just a random thought at night**
Dont bash me with dumb SH*T
Dude have you seen WM7? If so WTF would anyone want that on their screen? What are we 5years old lil kids or something? Ill stick with my HD2 and next upgrade ill get is when we have dual core mcpu on cell device, till than ill stick with a true Smartphone that someone like me knows how to use
PS: Just crashed my HD2 again that needed hard reset after attempting to reapply my RegEdit tweak from base 23XXX now we are back on 21XXX are we lets see.
it is sort of like the HD2 but not quite
1. Less storage capacity a fixed 8GB vs a max of 32GB for HD2
2. Most likely the same radio hardware with unofficial support for wireless N (don't know if you can regedit hack it to work though)
3. slightly better camera with 720p recording
4. 3 hw buttons vs 5 on the front
5. Uknown if device will have FM radio but if they sell it in Asia, it will most likely have one.
With the major disadvantages of Windows 7 being made appearant, it's not looking like a device I am interested in getting
5. No tethering support provided by the OS unknown if HTC or T-Mobile will enable it (they will have to create the interface)
6. No preemtive multitasking allowed
Sure WP7 is missing features but i rather have the right to talk **** on it after I have used it in a daily bases... Unlike prob most people that talk **** on it now but after it gets up an running and people start seeing the advantages they jump in like if they where with it since the start just like Android and iOS.....
I cant wait for the HD10x2 with Quad Core Processor and a beautiful 60inch 3D FULL HD Screen with full on body touch capacity.. Said to be released in 2012...
since i need that Quad Core for my mobile Video Editing and 3D Playback and such...Oh cant forget the 1080p 3D Videos Ill be recording on my way to the office

New devices wp7 on htc site >> HD7 ; MOZART ; THROPY

HELOO . New devices online >> > http://www.htc.com/europe/product.aspx
Tell me HTC HD7 is not our phone ) (HD2)
Yeah it's already been relized that the HD7 is an HD2 with more internal memory and WP7. Not much to see here and honestly I think the HD2 is still one of the nicest looking phones ever.
But yes were it not for the three button rule then I am sure the Official update would have come. But I would prefer a run from sdcard option like Android with WM6.5.3 on Nand.
I finally got excited for the upcoming WP7
chrisrj28 said:
Yeah it's already been relized that the HD7 is an HD2 with more internal memory and WP7.
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Unless you're rocking the TMOUS HD2 with the 1GB ROM & the 16GB included micro-sd card
Seems the same as the TMOUS HD2, except for the S-LCD, no card slot (8GB internal) and camera recording in 720p, but still 5mpx, same camera?? better sound, but main specs are almost if not identical.
I´d better keep my Hd2 with Android and eventually WP7.
Since the HD7 and HD2 share so much of the same components, doesnt that make a WP7 port to the HD2 relatively simple ??
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Since the HD7 and HD2 share so much of the same components, doesnt that make a WP7 port to the HD2 relatively simple ??
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yes , this is the next step , maybe cotulla will make us an suprise.
Im also hoping someone surprises us with a nice WP7 ROM. I'd love to see it
I'd still want it Android friendly though...
after watching te games in this link http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/xbox-live-for-windows-phone-7-your-xbox-isnt-in-your-phone-yet/ i was asking my self how the old snapdragon gives all this power in gaming , was htc drivers this bad as we couldn't recognize the real power of our hd2 for a year , i hope we will see wp7 on hd2
I am still better off with HD2 ............. No SD-slot ? 8GB for Europe ? I have 28 GB data on my SD-card !
No CHT, no WP, no MetalDetector, no apps, I stay with my HD2
no sd card
looks like Microsoft's a lil mad about andriod on sd i would def get an hd 7 if i could boot android on it at some point in time no more dual boot for us ;(
Nice to see comment's on this thread.
I have the feeling I was the only one who don't like the WP7 concept, but reading some expression/opinions here it seams I'm not the only one.
I have the impression that the HD2 is miles before the WP7
Not only the UI is smoother but gives us more personal personality!
WP7 = a iPhone wit windows logo
I am highly disappointed. Same 1Gh processor speed so expected to work slower with WM7 than WM6.5. Again back to the slooooooow windows. Noooo, no way. My 16Gb card is almost full and HTC expects I to return to 8 GB without option for upgrade?????
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I am highly disappointed. Same 1Gh processor speed so expected to work slower with WM7 than WM6.5. Again back to the slooooooow windows. Noooo, no way. My 16Gb card is almost full and HTC expects I to return to 8 GB without option for upgrade?????
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Have you actually seen Engadget videos showing the OS running and the xbox live feature? There is nothing slow about it. 1ghz is fast, and even faster when running efficient code and correct graphics drivers. As great as it is, neither WinMo or Manila is running efficiently, or using good drivers (out of the box)
What interests me is the XBOX live achievements and points. I think this will be a big selling point for them and a step in the right direction!
Really until 4G and HD voice (AMR-WB) come to the UK mainstream the HTC HD2 will do me fine. Plus like everyone else said I think HTC could have done more. Then again do they need to against the competition at the moment. I think when they are on the backfoot they will produce something special.
I'd love a 12M, Surround sound, 4.5" high DPI screen with AMR-WB please ;-)
morpheus1982 said:
Have you actually seen Engadget videos showing the OS running and the xbox live feature? There is nothing slow about it. 1ghz is fast, and even faster when running efficient code and correct graphics drivers. As great as it is, neither WinMo or Manila is running efficiently, or using good drivers (out of the box)
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WP7 MUST be ported on HD2. Is a '' must have ''
Here's a look at the proper successor to the HTC HD2, the HD7. It's a Windows Phone 7 device launching on T-Mobile in November at probably a $200 price point. It's a very thin device with a kickstand in the back
i like my hd2 more than any wph7 device hd7 is everything but not new everything seen before but only now eith new software p.s hate the ui of win phone 7
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Here's a look at the proper successor to the HTC HD2, the HD7. It's a Windows Phone 7 device launching on T-Mobile in November at probably a $200 price point. It's a very thin device with a kickstand in the back
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nice video
WP7 sucks big time!!!
Another thing you all didn't mention, no synchronization with Outlook with your contacts and your agenda! Yes, it has Office Mobile, but no synchronization with Outlook on your desktop PC! WTF?! This is a MAJOR drawback, especially for the business market.
No people, this is like going back to the stone age. Sorry Microsoft, you spoiled a good thing, instead of evolving you into something better, you made a Neanderthal OS system compared to your Homo Sapien WM 6.5.
I hope for HTC that they let Microsoft foot the bill for putting so much restrictions on their hardware in order to use their OS. Like, what is a phone without expandable memory??! How could you let Microsoft put so much restrictions on your hardware??!
I will be keeping my HD2 for the time-being and I know you guys here on XDA will keep the ROM's coming for it. And besides, I NEED my navigation! Can't do without it, and as long as no third-party apps are available for WP7, I won't be switching!
I agree with the part that Microsoft shooting themselves in the foot with this OS, it's doomed from the beginning. iPhone and Android have evolved much further and nobody is looking for a restricted copy of any of these, that's what was nice with WM, totally customizable and flexible the way WE wanted it.
One bit of advice to Microsoft: Stick to PC's and leave the Phone OS market behind.
metko said:
i like my hd2 more than any wph7 device hd7 is everything but not new everything seen before but only now eith new software p.s hate the ui of win phone 7
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I'm agree with you, ether I don't like the UI (if we can speak of UI) but I must be honest the external look of the device is nice!
But it's the same as a nice box but without anything in it
If this was a WM phone thy make in 1995 I would say, okay it is a start but there is a long way to go! But now almost 2011 thy came with this look???
I have the impression that this time WM will win the Award fore ugliness!
And I don't like the monopole of it so that 3th hands can't build there UI on it.

Can't decide between WP7 or Desire HD. What would you do?

I hae had WinMo for years now with various handsets. Time for me to move on. I have played with the Desire HD rom on my HD2 and I like it. Now WP7 looks really good too.
I want to get one or the other in terms of handset.
They both have similar but also diff specs.
HD7 5mpx cam - DHD 8mpx cam
HD7 No radio - DHD has radio
HD7 No flash support - DHD has flash support
HD7 No DLNA - DHD has DLNA
Both have great UIs
Both have Dolby Sound
I can't decide.
I don't have the attention to give you "the" answer; but maybe this can help you.
Make a list of what you need. (important)
make a list on what you will (les important)
Think on your experience and think on the problems you have got in the past and you certainly dont will again.
Think on the future (I mean next mouth you will have need something GPS...?)
So now you have a list and you can start to look witch device gives you the most of your needs.
okay this was based on needs now you can compare with taste.
in it's current state wp7 devices are NOT an upgrade to the HD2. I am going to wait this one out as I believe that my HD2 will last me at least another 2 years and then we'll see if the WP7 platform has things that I want in my phone
1. copy paste
2. tethering
3. expandable storage
4. 3rd part app multi-tasking
4. displays better than the sub 1280*800 displays we have now
If I were you, I would just wait till Cotulla finishes the work on WP7 so we can all try it on our HD2 devices. Then if you're interested in it go for the WP7 otherwise go for the Desire which you said you've played with it and liked it.
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I hae had WinMo for years now with various handsets. Time for me to move on. I have played with the Desire HD rom on my HD2 and I like it. Now WP7 looks really good too.
I want to get one or the other in terms of handset.
They both have similar but also diff specs.
HD7 5mpx cam - DHD 8mpx cam
HD7 No radio - DHD has radio
HD7 No flash support - DHD has flash support
HD7 No DLNA - DHD has DLNA
Both have great UIs
Both have Dolby Sound
I can't decide.
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Hi Tboy2000,
Havent you answered your own question with the pros/cons list above? I would take the Desire HD. WP7 needs time to develop, and the HD7 seems to offer less than the HD2.
I was soo wanting the desire HD when it was announced, but since trying it on my hd2 its great and all, but my hd2 can do so much more, the only advantage i see over the hd2 is the camera other than that for me the hd2 wins hands down. WP7 is the same (as much) hardware as the hd2, so for me im sticking with the hd2 until a better processor/camera/build.
JR
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Wait at least month after both devices are released. But I don't hold any hopes for WP7. I don't see why anyone should want it.
Thanks for the comments guys. I guess I wanted to make a decision soon because I would want to sell my HD2 and put the money to a new handset and if I wait and wait, the value of the HD2 will drop further. They go for around 220 pounds on ebay. I want a HD7 because the OS is NEW and will flourish and develop further over time and developers are supporting it well. However Desire HD is so much better than Desire and the new HTC OS tweaks make it an excellent phone. I just can't decide lol!
if my HD2 would stop working , i think i would buy the Desire HD.
But since my HD2 still works i'll stick to that since i can run Desire HD Android aswell as windows 6.5
HD2. Hands down. It almost has the same features as Desire HD except Desire HD has more RAM, and a better camera. So, HD2.
I had a HD2, but unfortunately 'she' died last Sunday. I read ALOT about the new HTC Windows 7 and Android devices. I also talked with some professional developers and they advised me to go for Android. Why? It's a well developed OS with lots of applications and games. Most application- and game developers are investing in IOS and Android. Windows 7 is a good looking OS, but it lacks many applications and games.It needs time to grow up...I don't want to wait, I want to enjoy my phone.
tboy2000 said:
I hae had WinMo for years now with various handsets. Time for me to move on. I have played with the Desire HD rom on my HD2 and I like it. Now WP7 looks really good too.
I want to get one or the other in terms of handset.
They both have similar but also diff specs.
HD7 5mpx cam - DHD 8mpx cam
HD7 No radio - DHD has radio
HD7 No flash support - DHD has flash support
HD7 No DLNA - DHD has DLNA
Both have great UIs
Both have Dolby Sound
I can't decide.
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With the list you have there, seems like a pretty lop sided comparison if you ask me...
Since you have an HD2 right now, just wait until you can play with an HD7 a bit before you make a decision.
This all comes down to personal taste and there have been some good comments and tipps for you to decide what phone would be better for you.
In my opinion, I have tried Android long enough to know that I won't buy any Android-phone until the OS would be completely changed from scratch.
Android is ugly, complicated, unstable and fragmented. My 2.5year-old Diamond with WM6.1 is running more reliable than the Desire.
I will stay with my HD2 with WM6.5.3 for the time being and will step to WindowsPhone7 once the hardware is getting better.

HD2 best hackable phone?

Posted a topic on which phone was the most hackable one? I got nexus one as the answer but i am seeing so much development on HD2 (WP7, android, meego, ubuntu) and it seems to me that this is actually the best hackable phone right now??? or i am missing a point?
i am mainly interested in android and maybe WP7...
so questions:
how well does android 2.2/2.3 runs on HD2? in terms of overall performance for web browsing (slow? saw a vid on youtube that scrolling and zooming lags a bit), apps/games compatibility (e.g. do some games lag?)
same for WP7
and most important question for me : does flash 10.1 works on android for HD2? (already posted a topic on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914547: so you can answer on the thread instead)
yeahman45 said:
Posted a topic on which phone was the most hackable one? I got nexus one as the answer but i am seeing so much development on HD2 (WP7, android, meego, ubuntu) and it seems to me that this is actually the best hackable phone right now??? or i am missing a point?
i am mainly interested in android and maybe WP7...
so questions:
how well does android 2.2/2.3 runs on HD2? in terms of overall performance for web browsing (slow? saw a vid on youtube that scrolling and zooming lags a bit), apps/games compatibility (e.g. do some games lag?)
same for WP7
and most important question for me : does flash 10.1 works on android for HD2? (already posted a topic on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914547: so you can answer on the thread instead)
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the new superRAM (SD) and NAND builds are just like a normal android phone. everything works perfect. i'm using android on hd2 since many months, never used winmo 6.5 anymore. absolutely no issues. trying wp7 now, i guess i'll go back to android (android = open system, much more better than iphone like restrictions)
yeahman45 said:
Posted a topic on which phone was the most hackable one? I got nexus one as the answer but i am seeing so much development on HD2 (WP7, android, meego, ubuntu) and it seems to me that this is actually the best hackable phone right now??? or i am missing a point?
i am mainly interested in android and maybe WP7...
so questions:
how well does android 2.2/2.3 runs on HD2? in terms of overall performance for web browsing (slow? saw a vid on youtube that scrolling and zooming lags a bit), apps/games compatibility (e.g. do some games lag?)
same for WP7
and most important question for me : does flash 10.1 works on android for HD2? (already posted a topic on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914547: so you can answer on the thread instead)
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The higher quality Android roms run just as well as a native android phone...I'd say it runs better than most un-rooted, native android phones actually. Flash works on Android.
The older builds lagged and had problems, but the super ram builds and NAND builds ran very quickly and smoothly on my TMOUSA HD2.
As far as WP7 goes, the HD2 is buttery smooth and runs like a native WP7 phone. I'm impressed with it.
Obviously, running hacked ROMS, there are always little nuances and caveats you have to deal with that you wouldn't have to on a phone that natively runs WP7 or Android, but having the choice of running so many different OS's makes it very much worthwhile. The ability to load WP7 from ram and Android from SD card is a big plus. The thought of one day being able to dual boot both OS's is an even bigger plus.
The Nexus one runs Android only. The HD2 runs WM6.5, Android, WP7, and Ubuntu. No brainer there.
The HD2 is the first phone that I actually liked more over time
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seriously lmao, dude there is absolutley no contest, and im not just saying because im a HD2 user im saying it because its a fact, The HD2 is THE most versatile phone/ppc there is for MANY reasons.
If you enjou tinkering with phone, trying different OS's and great phone specs at same time then there is no other choice then the HD2, simple as that.
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The ability to load WP7 from ram and Android from SD card is a big plus.
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You dont run WP7 from RAM you run it from NAND.
I would add that if at all possible one should attempt to get a leo1024 instead of the 512 model, you'll find those to be the most versatile of the two. Top of the top in hackability afaik.
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thx for the replies... what is leo 1024? 1024 flash memory?
going to buy one in Singapore there:
http://www.mobilesquare.com.sg/products/products_detail.asp?pid=1140&cid=76
looks like it's a 512mb flash version?
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The higher quality Android roms run just as well as a native android phone...I'd say it runs better than most un-rooted, native android phones actually. Flash works on Android.
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So that i can geta good idea of the performance, as compared to the htc desire, how well does android 2.2 perform on HD2? ( equal, little less or quite a big gap in performance)?
Short answer: yes, HD2 is the most hackable and customizable phone ever. There is no second device like HD2 on which you can choose between 3 (or maybe even 4) fully working mobile OSes and few ports of PC OS's (old Windows 95/98 and Ubuntu)!
yeahman45 said:
thx for the replies... what is leo 1024? 1024 flash memory?
going to buy one in Singapore there:
http://www.mobilesquare.com.sg/products/products_detail.asp?pid=1140&cid=76
looks like it's a 512mb flash version?
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Leo 1024 is HTC HD2 branded by T-Mobile which has 1024 MB of ROM storage, which means you get around 700 mb instead of 200 mb for apps when using Android and around 650 mb of storage on WinMo 6.5.
WP7 does not utilize full 1024 mb, it works as you had leo512.
raven_raven said:
Short answer: yes, HD2 is the most hackable and customizable phone ever. There is no second device like HD2 on which you can choose between 3 (or maybe even 4) fully working mobile OSes and few ports of PC OS's (old Windows 95/98 and Ubuntu)!
Leo 1024 is HTC HD2 branded by T-Mobile which has 1024 MB of ROM storage, which means you get around 700 mb instead of 200 mb for apps when using Android and around 650 mb of storage on WinMo 6.5.
WP7 does not utilize full 1024 mb, it works as you had leo512.
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+1 here,oh Meego aswell soon.maybe even windows XP one day The possibilitys with this thing are so unreal,its ridiculous.I think it will be a while before we get anougher device like it that can do all this stuff.Yeah if you can,Get a TMOUS HD2,Our Euro units struggle a bit on internal Mem,Were still having to use sd and partition them so we have enough space,Wonder What phone all the devs will be going to for the next big major Crack like this,HD7 perhaps
HD2 is usefull mobile device that I very like it.
It's very very very nice for me.
Also XDA devices are nice as I used before since : hx2750 ---> xda Atom Exec ---> hw6965 ---> HD2
Nexus one can also run ubuntu. But so can the hd2 lol
mystik610 said:
The higher quality Android roms run just as well as a native android phone...I'd say it runs better than most un-rooted, native android phones actually. Flash works on Android.
The older builds lagged and had problems, but the super ram builds and NAND builds ran very quickly and smoothly on my TMOUSA HD2.
As far as WP7 goes, the HD2 is buttery smooth and runs like a native WP7 phone. I'm impressed with it.
Obviously, running hacked ROMS, there are always little nuances and caveats you have to deal with that you wouldn't have to on a phone that natively runs WP7 or Android, but having the choice of running so many different OS's makes it very much worthwhile. The ability to load WP7 from ram and Android from SD card is a big plus. The thought of one day being able to dual boot both OS's is an even bigger plus.
The Nexus one runs Android only. The HD2 runs WM6.5, Android, WP7, and Ubuntu. No brainer there.
The HD2 is the first phone that I actually liked more over time
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Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
If there was a list of hack-ability, where would the EVO rank? I love my EVO but I really like the HD2.
from my EVO using XDA app.
yeahman45 said:
So that i can geta good idea of the performance, as compared to the htc desire, how well does android 2.2 perform on HD2? ( equal, little less or quite a big gap in performance)?
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how is performance of android on HD2 as compared to the desire(apparently the best android phone)?
unfortunately, i will be able to get only the 512mb version of HD2.. can you do dual boot (android and wp7) on it? can't i save and run my android apps on sd? (apart from additional storage, the 2 models are identical right(512 vs 1024): i mean i can install same custom roms, hacks etc.. right?)
This is the only phone with this much hacking potential/ability. Makes me glad I bought it, even at full price.
TheiPhoneKiller said:
maybe even windows XP one day
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yeahman45 said:
how is performance of android on HD2 as compared to the desire(apparently the best android phone)?
unfortunately, i will be able to get only the 512mb version of HD2.. can you do dual boot (android and wp7) on it? can't i save and run my android apps on sd? (apart from additional storage, the 2 models are identical right(512 vs 1024): i mean i can install same custom roms, hacks etc.. right?)
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yeahman45 said:
So that i can geta good idea of the performance, as compared to the htc desire, how well does android 2.2 perform on HD2? ( equal, little less or quite a big gap in performance)?
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I can't speak for the Desire, as it isn't available where I am locally, but around here, everyone who isn't using an iPhone seems to be using an HTC EVO. In terms of performance, the HD2 running the more recent Android ROMS performs just as well, if not better, than a stock EVO.
There's also a video out there with an HD2 running WP7 side by side a stock WP7 phone, and the HD2 was actually faster than the stock WP7 phone.
That being said, if you're intention is to stick with Android, then get an Android phone. The beauty of the HD2 is the ability to run multiple OS's, and hopefully one day dual-boot any combination of OS's. But a stock Android phone will certainly have fewer quirks and tweaks to worry about to run perfectly. Owning an HD2 and keeping up with all of the developments really is a it of a commitment.
I think mostly all phone r hackable ...
credit should be given to dev like cotulla, DFT, all in htc-linux team that make it possible.
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I think mostly all phone r hackable ...
credit should be given to dev like cotulla, DFT, all in htc-linux team that make it possible.
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Most are hackable, but only the HD2 is able to run this many OS's.
Most phone are only able to run hacked versions of its native OS.
mystik610 said:
I can't speak for the Desire, as it isn't available where I am locally, but around here, everyone who isn't using an iPhone seems to be using an HTC EVO. In terms of performance, the HD2 running the more recent Android ROMS performs just as well, if not better, than a stock EVO.
There's also a video out there with an HD2 running WP7 side by side a stock WP7 phone, and the HD2 was actually faster than the stock WP7 phone.
That being said, if you're intention is to stick with Android, then get an Android phone. The beauty of the HD2 is the ability to run multiple OS's, and hopefully one day dual-boot any combination of OS's. But a stock Android phone will certainly have fewer quirks and tweaks to worry about to run perfectly. Owning an HD2 and keeping up with all of the developments really is a it of a commitment.
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ok thx! i wanna use android as my main os and then WP7 as secondary for fun and testing ... like the idea to be able to install multiple os... always like to use the full potential of a device... this is what i did with my psp (with homebrew: vnc, better mp3 player, retrogaming emulation) and my wii (homebrew: media player center, vnc, retrogaming emulation) that's so much more fun!
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I think mostly all phone r hackable ...
credit should be given to dev like cotulla, DFT, all in htc-linux team that make it possible.
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I've had my HD2 since September 2009 and I have had an amazing time tinkering with it. I've run Gingerbread on it and am running WP7 right now (stuck at the Live Services verification). Having said all this, I am beginning to wonder which phone will be the next "most hackable phone". Which phone will the likes of Cotulla turn their attention to next?
4 weeks ago and 1 year into my 24 month Orange contract, I was ready to sell my HD2 (Eur 512mb) and buy myself out of my contract so I could get a phone based on android simply because I was soooo bored with winmo 6.5
By chance I stumbled across xda devs and saw it was possible to run android from SD card and dual boot it with winmo.....I was overjoyed! a couple of weeks later NAND flashes became available and I was amazed at the fluidity of it running on my HD2 (Eur 512mb)....that made me even happier. I'm so glad I kept my phone, I saved myself a packet all thanks XDA and the band of devs. HD2 FTW

The next HD2

Hello everyone,
i really like the HD2, because you can flash every actual OS from Android to Ubuntu and Windows.
Does the HD2 have any special feature that it supports so many OS, or is it just that developers focused this device specially.
But now the Hardware of the HD2 is getting old. So will there be a new device which be able to be so flexible like the HD2?
+1 ... im interested too
+1 thanks!
Well,If we look back to the history of HD2 , it was born with winmo 6.5 which soon died out.For such a unique and powerful (expensive too) device to just been thrown to dustbin - it was hard for the users,so a lot of interest on how to make it survive - obviously by porting newer OSs.Once it made so , there was no look back ,even now it is one of the most interesting piece for developers.But will there be another HD2 , I don't think so.With so many smart phones in market - more powerful by day ,we will rather move on ...But HD2 development may last as long as its hardware is compatible enough...
win98 said:
Hello everyone,
i really like the HD2, because you can flash every actual OS from Android to Ubuntu and Windows.
Does the HD2 have any special feature that it supports so many OS, or is it just that developers focused this device specially.
But now the Hardware of the HD2 is getting old. So will there be a new device which be able to be so flexible like the HD2?
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hi!
i had an HD2 before, and i loved it. an i still do.
Most of us old HD2 users have upgraded to Sensation (some also to the Desire HD).
The thing is HD2 doesent have any special feature that makes it able to run different things - just a great community with the passion and drive to make all these different OS work. So what you need is a phone thats "popular", which will creat a great community as well.
Ive got the Sensation, and it got plenty of diffrent roms you can install... right now im on Android 4.0.3 with Sense 3.6 - and it runs AWESOMELY! soon we will port the new sense 4.0 also
i hope that Ubuntu would be ported to )
fulltank said:
Well,If we look back to the history of HD2 , it was born with winmo 6.5 which soon died out.For such a unique and powerful (expensive too) device to just been thrown to dustbin - it was hard for the users,so a lot of interest on how to make it survive - obviously by porting newer OSs.Once it made so , there was no look back ,even now it is one of the most interesting piece for developers.But will there be another HD2 , I don't think so.With so many smart phones in market - more powerful by day ,we will rather move on ...But HD2 development may last as long as its hardware is compatible enough...
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i think the hardware will be compatible long time. The matter is, that you cant develop a rom which will have dual core, super amoled display, better resolution, nfc, 4g and so on.
Respect for the HD2 that it could mess up so many years with any new smartphone, but i think in future this will be hard.
So, what i am going to say is, that xda, or (nearly) all developers should focus a new phone for porting rom and that stuff.
For example to wait for a new wp apollo phone, which will support multicore and higher resolution.
If it is just the focus of the developers which made the HD2 so popular, it would be great, to name a newer device as "the next HD2"
(sounds like the next uri geller^^)
I'd like to see the first WP7 dual phone become the next HD2. Most of the current WP7 phones are still single core, and while that's might be good for now, I'd rather have a dual core in my next phone, since I'd probably be using it for a good two years or so. A dual core WP7 phone+Android ports+Ubuntu ports = perfect? I think yes.
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I'd like to see the first WP7 dual phone become the next HD2. Most of the current WP7 phones are still single core, and while that's might be good for now, I'd rather have a dual core in my next phone, since I'd probably be using it for a good two years or so. A dual core WP7 phone+Android ports+Ubuntu ports = perfect? I think yes.
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yeah i want the same.
there are rumours about an hd8 with apollo.
apollo will have new res, nfc and multicore support.
i hope this phone will replace the hd2 with dignity
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Phone-Powered-HTC-HD8-Emerges-244543.shtml
I don't get it: Why would I need a dual/quadcore? My HD2 works without any lags, I can't find any difference regarding the overall userexperience compared to a SGSII etc. Are the games a main reason for the more powerful hardware?
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I don't get it: Why would I need a dual/quadcore? My HD2 works without any lags, I can't find any difference regarding the overall userexperience compared to a SGSII etc. Are the games a main reason for the more powerful hardware?
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Well mine does as well, I'm on ICS and underclocked actually, to 768 Mhz and it's smooth. However, I want to be able to play some more intensive games [ like GTAIII] and whatnot without having to used a dumbed down data for it. Also, while it's not that big a deal for me, it would be kinda nice to be able to play back 1080p video. But for now, my HD2 is still awesome; I have a friend with a Droid X 2 and one with a Droid 3, and there's nothing they can do with their 2011 phone I can't do on my 2009 phone!
win98 said:
yeah i want the same.
there are rumours about an hd8 with apollo.
apollo will have new res, nfc and multicore support.
i hope this phone will replace the hd2 with dignity
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Phone-Powered-HTC-HD8-Emerges-244543.shtml
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I'm starting my reading up on the skills needed for Android developing, I really wanna take part in making the 'next HD2' as awesome as the current one!
HTC Edge/Endeavour will surely be the next developers phone, no?
I doubt there will ever be such a phone again. The industry is consolidating around two OSs (Android and iOS). Windows Phone has an outside chance of becoming relevant again next year.
I say keep your HD2 going until the Edge/Endeavor comes along. I've got the new Galaxy Nexus and, I must say, the experience of Ice Cream Sandwich on my HD2 is not much different to the Galaxy Nexus with its dual cores. Wait just a little bit longer.
Dont what ever any of you do sell your HD2's I sold mine about a year ago and have been through copious Windows phones, Android Phones even Iphones...nothing comes close to the diversity of this phone, I miss the ability to switch from Android to WP...
The community and development is second to none.
I currently us a Galaxy s2, OK the development is very good for Android Roms, OK its got an amazing screen and very powerful, but really never feels like I am in control of what it can do, I would love to try the WP7.5 but would hate to be restricted to just one operating system, they are all boring after a while, the HD2 allows you so much more
+ 1 from me. HD2 is unique. I love it as it is a member of my family...
THUDUK said:
Dont what ever any of you do sell your HD2's I sold mine about a year ago and have been through copious Windows phones, Android Phones even Iphones...nothing comes close to the diversity of this phone, I miss the ability to switch from Android to WP...
The community and development is second to none.
I currently us a Galaxy s2, OK the development is very good for Android Roms, OK its got an amazing screen and very powerful, but really never feels like I am in control of what it can do, I would love to try the WP7.5 but would hate to be restricted to just one operating system, they are all boring after a while, the HD2 allows you so much more
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ive moved to the galaxy note and have kept the hd2 but wouldnt even entertain using it now, unless something happens to the note
main purpose is that it works, unlike on the hd2 where something dont work or are slow to work due to non native driver support, the devs are fantastic in what they have done for the device, but im actually glad im not swapping/updating roms every week

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