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Tell me HTC HD7 is not our phone ) (HD2)

Yeah it's already been relized that the HD7 is an HD2 with more internal memory and WP7. Not much to see here and honestly I think the HD2 is still one of the nicest looking phones ever.
But yes were it not for the three button rule then I am sure the Official update would have come. But I would prefer a run from sdcard option like Android with WM6.5.3 on Nand.
I finally got excited for the upcoming WP7

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Yeah it's already been relized that the HD7 is an HD2 with more internal memory and WP7.
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Unless you're rocking the TMOUS HD2 with the 1GB ROM & the 16GB included micro-sd card

Seems the same as the TMOUS HD2, except for the S-LCD, no card slot (8GB internal) and camera recording in 720p, but still 5mpx, same camera?? better sound, but main specs are almost if not identical.
I´d better keep my Hd2 with Android and eventually WP7.

Since the HD7 and HD2 share so much of the same components, doesnt that make a WP7 port to the HD2 relatively simple ??

viciousxp said:
Since the HD7 and HD2 share so much of the same components, doesnt that make a WP7 port to the HD2 relatively simple ??
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yes , this is the next step , maybe cotulla will make us an suprise.

Im also hoping someone surprises us with a nice WP7 ROM. I'd love to see it
I'd still want it Android friendly though...

after watching te games in this link http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/xbox-live-for-windows-phone-7-your-xbox-isnt-in-your-phone-yet/ i was asking my self how the old snapdragon gives all this power in gaming , was htc drivers this bad as we couldn't recognize the real power of our hd2 for a year , i hope we will see wp7 on hd2

I am still better off with HD2 ............. No SD-slot ? 8GB for Europe ? I have 28 GB data on my SD-card !
No CHT, no WP, no MetalDetector, no apps, I stay with my HD2

no sd card
looks like Microsoft's a lil mad about andriod on sd i would def get an hd 7 if i could boot android on it at some point in time no more dual boot for us ;(

Nice to see comment's on this thread.
I have the feeling I was the only one who don't like the WP7 concept, but reading some expression/opinions here it seams I'm not the only one.
I have the impression that the HD2 is miles before the WP7
Not only the UI is smoother but gives us more personal personality!
WP7 = a iPhone wit windows logo

I am highly disappointed. Same 1Gh processor speed so expected to work slower with WM7 than WM6.5. Again back to the slooooooow windows. Noooo, no way. My 16Gb card is almost full and HTC expects I to return to 8 GB without option for upgrade?????

kuwait said:
I am highly disappointed. Same 1Gh processor speed so expected to work slower with WM7 than WM6.5. Again back to the slooooooow windows. Noooo, no way. My 16Gb card is almost full and HTC expects I to return to 8 GB without option for upgrade?????
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Have you actually seen Engadget videos showing the OS running and the xbox live feature? There is nothing slow about it. 1ghz is fast, and even faster when running efficient code and correct graphics drivers. As great as it is, neither WinMo or Manila is running efficiently, or using good drivers (out of the box)

What interests me is the XBOX live achievements and points. I think this will be a big selling point for them and a step in the right direction!
Really until 4G and HD voice (AMR-WB) come to the UK mainstream the HTC HD2 will do me fine. Plus like everyone else said I think HTC could have done more. Then again do they need to against the competition at the moment. I think when they are on the backfoot they will produce something special.
I'd love a 12M, Surround sound, 4.5" high DPI screen with AMR-WB please ;-)

morpheus1982 said:
Have you actually seen Engadget videos showing the OS running and the xbox live feature? There is nothing slow about it. 1ghz is fast, and even faster when running efficient code and correct graphics drivers. As great as it is, neither WinMo or Manila is running efficiently, or using good drivers (out of the box)
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WP7 MUST be ported on HD2. Is a '' must have ''

Here's a look at the proper successor to the HTC HD2, the HD7. It's a Windows Phone 7 device launching on T-Mobile in November at probably a $200 price point. It's a very thin device with a kickstand in the back

i like my hd2 more than any wph7 device hd7 is everything but not new everything seen before but only now eith new software p.s hate the ui of win phone 7

kurt-willems said:
Here's a look at the proper successor to the HTC HD2, the HD7. It's a Windows Phone 7 device launching on T-Mobile in November at probably a $200 price point. It's a very thin device with a kickstand in the back
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nice video

WP7 sucks big time!!!
Another thing you all didn't mention, no synchronization with Outlook with your contacts and your agenda! Yes, it has Office Mobile, but no synchronization with Outlook on your desktop PC! WTF?! This is a MAJOR drawback, especially for the business market.
No people, this is like going back to the stone age. Sorry Microsoft, you spoiled a good thing, instead of evolving you into something better, you made a Neanderthal OS system compared to your Homo Sapien WM 6.5.
I hope for HTC that they let Microsoft foot the bill for putting so much restrictions on their hardware in order to use their OS. Like, what is a phone without expandable memory??! How could you let Microsoft put so much restrictions on your hardware??!
I will be keeping my HD2 for the time-being and I know you guys here on XDA will keep the ROM's coming for it. And besides, I NEED my navigation! Can't do without it, and as long as no third-party apps are available for WP7, I won't be switching!
I agree with the part that Microsoft shooting themselves in the foot with this OS, it's doomed from the beginning. iPhone and Android have evolved much further and nobody is looking for a restricted copy of any of these, that's what was nice with WM, totally customizable and flexible the way WE wanted it.
One bit of advice to Microsoft: Stick to PC's and leave the Phone OS market behind.

metko said:
i like my hd2 more than any wph7 device hd7 is everything but not new everything seen before but only now eith new software p.s hate the ui of win phone 7
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I'm agree with you, ether I don't like the UI (if we can speak of UI) but I must be honest the external look of the device is nice!
But it's the same as a nice box but without anything in it
If this was a WM phone thy make in 1995 I would say, okay it is a start but there is a long way to go! But now almost 2011 thy came with this look???
I have the impression that this time WM will win the Award fore ugliness!
And I don't like the monopole of it so that 3th hands can't build there UI on it.

WM7 on HD2 possible / Wait a worth ?

Hope to see HD2 boot up with WM7 ... Any luck news about this other than http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-shown-on-the-hd2

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Hope to see HD2 boot up with WM7 ... Any luck news about this other than http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-shown-on-the-hd2
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we just have to wait and watch...
but there is some surity that WP7 will be port to HD2(yeah, we have nice piece of hardware )
Cotulla and his team already playing with WP7

Seems like there's a very good chance.... since all the new windows phone 7 uses the same 1st GEN snapdragon.
Which is also quite disappointing actually if you look at it from a different stand point. Pretty sad launch for HTC and Windows to use dated hardware which has been available since last year. You'd think they use newer hardware to really push a launch of the their new OS, which quite frankly is Microsoft's last chance to try and take back to mobile market......

i like wp7... im waiting quietly ... android works ok an wm is still an okay os.. so im in no rush
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hd2
I was thinking of getting a used HD2 to port android. any advice?

Adivce on what excatly? Android or the HD2 itself?

kevinniven said:
I was thinking of getting a used HD2 to port android. any advice?
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If you want an Android phone, GET AN ANDROID phone. HD2 phone works with Android, but its not 100%, and you still have Winmo 6.5 in the background. It simply does not work as good (stability and speed) as a true Android phone. Im sure that IF WM7 gets ported, the same will be true. Close, but not close enough.
The HD2 is a phone for WM6.5 first, and other OS's second.

Gibbage said:
If you want an Android phone, GET AN ANDROID phone. HD2 phone works with Android, but its not 100%, and you still have Winmo 6.5 in the background. It simply does not work as good (stability and speed) as a true Android phone. Im sure that IF WM7 gets ported, the same will be true. Close, but not close enough.
The HD2 is a phone for WM6.5 first, and other OS's second.
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I agree with almost all of your points but I can't agree that the Hd2 "won't" be as stable as a true Android phone is when the development has been finalized. Now if you are only speaking about today then "okay, you're right most of the Android builds aren't that stable yet". The Android build that I am using on my HD2 is 100% stable right "Now". As for speed it is faster than 99% of all the current new Android phones out right now. It is speed testing above the Nexus one Android 2.2 which I think almost everyone would agree is pretty fast. The camera being 3 megapixels instead of 5 is the "only" issue it has. The Video camera is actually better on the Android side than it is on Win Mobile side. And my win mobile rom is rock solid.
This next point is very important: The only reason the camera and other issues has not been resolved of yet is because HTC "had" not released the Kernel Source for the Android builds. Just yesterday HTC released the Kernel source of the Desire Z and the G2 which means that the Camera issues and foot print issues on the Desire Z, and Desire HD builds will likely be resolved in the "Very" near future. At which point my Android build which "honestly" is already stable and running faster that the Nexus one android 2.2 will be "Better" than most true Android phones when I choose to use Android.
As to the question that prompted your reply " I was thinking of getting a used HD2 to port android. any advice?". I totally agree with you that If the person asking the question wants a Android phone don't buy the HD2. But if it is choices that is wanted the HD2 is a good option. And it is why I chose to buy an HD2 in spite of the fact that Microsoft said they weren't going to update it to Win 7, which was going to make the 6.5 obsolete, and the available apps compared to the iPhone and the Android Market place are very, very weak. I knew that I would be using the Android Market place apps whenever I wanted to, and in time I would be shopping at the Win phone 7 market as well. Because of Xda developers the HD2 offers it's owners more choices than any other phone right now. And I for one love having choices : - )

Gibbage said:
If you want an Android phone, GET AN ANDROID phone. HD2 phone works with Android, but its not 100%, and you still have Winmo 6.5 in the background. It simply does not work as good (stability and speed) as a true Android phone. Im sure that IF WM7 gets ported, the same will be true. Close, but not close enough.
The HD2 is a phone for WM6.5 first, and other OS's second.
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True but my T-Mobile HD2 with android is way better than a Motorola Cliq on 1.5 lol. Yes I know I shouldnt even compare an HD2 to a slow Moto Cliq

mr_brew said:
This next point is very important: The only reason the camera and other issues has not been resolved of yet is because HTC "had" not released the Kernel Source for the Android builds. Just yesterday HTC released the Kernel source of the Desire Z and the G2 which means that the Camera issues and foot print issues on the Desire Z, and Desire HD builds will likely be resolved in the "Very" near future. At which point my Android build which "honestly" is already stable and running faster that the Nexus one android 2.2 will be "Better" than most true Android phones when I choose to use Android.
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Which (whose) Android are you using, and are you using on the stock 2.13 TMOUS ROM? I was on Darkstone's Froyosense, but the PPP kept dropping connection on me every 8 or so hours, and a 5-minute reboot made it a pain... so unless I can get an RMNET version or stable PPP release, I'm still not using Android as a daily unit (plus, battery life is still poor, although Nexus port has good battery life, but I get the robotic voice... <sigh>).

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Seems like there's a very good chance.... since all the new windows phone 7 uses the same 1st GEN snapdragon.
Which is also quite disappointing actually if you look at it from a different stand point. Pretty sad launch for HTC and Windows to use dated hardware which has been available since last year. You'd think they use newer hardware to really push a launch of the their new OS, which quite frankly is Microsoft's last chance to try and take back to mobile market......
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I can partially agree, but app developers along with the team that worked on this OS certainly need sure specs to be able to develop fragmentation free. Using this slightly older, but still very high end, specifications also allowed the OEMs to make devices with little or no driver development. This strategy is very Apple. This OS will not be 'open' as android or Winmo are. MSFT has alos stated that OTA updates come from them directly, with no red tape from Carriers or OEMs.
Sony's rumored PSP2 is an example. though a few developers have said that they have one, there have been no announcements for any region. these things are years in the making and changing something like the processor may have delayed launch.
Does anyone remember how dated the G1 (dream) looked at it's launch? it didn't even have 3.5mm jack.MSFT is getting this thing out as soon as it can. they don't want to be a Palm, and have devices leak like the pre2 that probably won't even get a date until CES

mr_brew said:
I agree with almost all of your points but I can't agree that the Hd2 "won't" be as stable as a true Android phone is when the development has been finalized. Now if you are only speaking about today then "okay, you're right most of the Android builds aren't that stable yet". The Android build that I am using on my HD2 is 100% stable right "Now". As for speed it is faster than 99% of all the current new Android phones out right now. It is speed testing above the Nexus one Android 2.2 which I think almost everyone would agree is pretty fast. The camera being 3 megapixels instead of 5 is the "only" issue it has. The Video camera is actually better on the Android side than it is on Win Mobile side. And my win mobile rom is rock solid.
This next point is very important: The only reason the camera and other issues has not been resolved of yet is because HTC "had" not released the Kernel Source for the Android builds. Just yesterday HTC released the Kernel source of the Desire Z and the G2 which means that the Camera issues and foot print issues on the Desire Z, and Desire HD builds will likely be resolved in the "Very" near future. At which point my Android build which "honestly" is already stable and running faster that the Nexus one android 2.2 will be "Better" than most true Android phones when I choose to use Android.
As to the question that prompted your reply " I was thinking of getting a used HD2 to port android. any advice?". I totally agree with you that If the person asking the question wants a Android phone don't buy the HD2. But if it is choices that is wanted the HD2 is a good option. And it is why I chose to buy an HD2 in spite of the fact that Microsoft said they weren't going to update it to Win 7, which was going to make the 6.5 obsolete, and the available apps compared to the iPhone and the Android Market place are very, very weak. I knew that I would be using the Android Market place apps whenever I wanted to, and in time I would be shopping at the Win phone 7 market as well. Because of Xda developers the HD2 offers it's owners more choices than any other phone right now. And I for one love having choices : - )
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i totally agree with your comments and would like to add just one thing. There is not much android devices on market which has 1 gb rom and 500mb ram yet on the market. So Android on HD2 is still much better then most of the native android devices on the market even tho working on the sdcard yet. Once nand version is released it is gonna be a killer not only being able to run android but also multibootable! If you only gonna stick with android and you are in need of a new phone then only superior HTC android devices like desire HD might be a better choice imao

kcfong2 said:
Which (whose) Android are you using, and are you using on the stock 2.13 TMOUS ROM? I was on Darkstone's Froyosense, but the PPP kept dropping connection on me every 8 or so hours, and a 5-minute reboot made it a pain... so unless I can get an RMNET version or stable PPP release, I'm still not using Android as a daily unit (plus, battery life is still poor, although Nexus port has good battery life, but I get the robotic voice... ).
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Whenever my data drops I just turn off the wireless 3g network, then turn it back on, and that usually resolves the issue.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I'm using the new hyper droid 1.6.on my hd2 and its daily.don't even touch winmo anymore.battery life its my only complaint.but I like having winmo as a backup. All droid phones have crappy battery.the fact that I can do anything to the droid rom and never worry about my device becoming a brick its great.plus having the option of three OS's (winmo, droid, ubuntu) is better then just having a droid.
Also what is "nand" ? Is it like the computer when you pc your os at boot? Rather then haret?
Sent from my HTC HD2 using Tapatalk

I don't mean to be negative, I am actually really happy with my HD2 using WinMo- but I don't get the WP7 hype. I have watched the youtube videos and the OS looks cramped on the phone. I understand that Sense makes our phones look amazing; but I have heard that MS won't allow any Sense on WP7. The ability to customize my phone and make it look COMPLETELY different than anyone else's is one of the biggest draws to any phone; and from what I can see all the WP7 phones look the same!
Has MS done something completely outside the box with this phone that no one is talking about?

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I don't mean to be negative, I am actually really happy with my HD2 using WinMo- but I don't get the WP7 hype. I have watched the youtube videos and the OS looks cramped on the phone. I understand that Sense makes our phones look amazing; but I have heard that MS won't allow any Sense on WP7. The ability to customize my phone and make it look COMPLETELY different than anyone else's is one of the biggest draws to any phone; and from what I can see all the WP7 phones look the same!
Has MS done something completely outside the box with this phone that no one is talking about?
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One could only hope that was the case with WP7 but then again it is microsoft so the chances of it being something outside the box are yet to be seen..

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Which (whose) Android are you using, and are you using on the stock 2.13 TMOUS ROM? I was on Darkstone's Froyosense, but the PPP kept dropping connection on me every 8 or so hours, and a 5-minute reboot made it a pain... so unless I can get an RMNET version or stable PPP release, I'm still not using Android as a daily unit (plus, battery life is still poor, although Nexus port has good battery life, but I get the robotic voice... <sigh>).
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Try this combo... I am running Android as a daily driver... data is speedy (2MB Down / 1 MB Up here in Salt Lake City, UT).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802194
Use the OzDROID ROM here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774417
Then load the 2.5 update from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802194
You will be thoroughly impressed. It may freeze up during the first boot of Android. Just soft reset it and you'll be good to go. I used heavy 3G data all day and still had 40% battery at the end of the day. The touchscreen is much more responsive than with WM.
Good luck...

I think WP7 will eventually come. Android didn't take long because similar hardware with the same drivers launched and it was relatively easy to port. Windows Phone 7 has models that are basically the same hardware too so it should come quickly.

I'm anxiously awaiting this also! I dont use my HD2 anymore, I have an EVO for my regular phone... I love windows mobile though

Gibbage said:
If you want an Android phone, GET AN ANDROID phone. HD2 phone works with Android, but its not 100%, and you still have Winmo 6.5 in the background. It simply does not work as good (stability and speed) as a true Android phone. Im sure that IF WM7 gets ported, the same will be true. Close, but not close enough.
The HD2 is a phone for WM6.5 first, and other OS's second.
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I would not make comments off the cuff without actually knowing the facts. Yes, the HD2 was designed as a device to run WM 6.5 and/or WP7 At that date no one was clear on Microsoft's expectations and a hardware definition had not been made public. A lot of folks believe this was behind T-Mobile upping the Ram and ROM footprint, in the expectation it would be potentially upgradeable to WP7. Then Microsoft shot it down, so HTC has essentially reworked the same hardware with a few tweaks (love the little stereo speakers, not so much the kickstand, which LOOKS cool as hell, but is claimed to be unstable from the rounded base-edge)
That said, the next point is, Windows Mobile does NOT "run in the background" - It is there mostly to initialize the hardware (else we would be in driver hell) and when Haret boots the Android kernel, it first UNLOADS the WM kernel. So no, Android does NOT run on top of WM, as a lot of folks seem to misunderstand.
Finally: Stability and Speed? Okay some builds are just reaching a stable point (remembering that we have only HAD working Android builds for 3 months when they first got it booting properly on 8250 Snapdragon Processor.) and perhaps you have not SEEN the cute little performance graphs, provided bay Quadrant on the builds? (see attached)Even the attached Performance numbers - the SLOWEST I have EVER gotten on my HD2 (Usually see 1500+) blow away the Nexus One running Froyo 2.2, Moto Droid X and Samsung Galaxy S - Three of the hottest Android Phones out there (well, the Nexus is getting a bit long in the tooth)
So, to the guy looking for advice? Lets say that while you CAN run android on it, you WILL have to jump through some technical hoops, and you SHOULD at least have an interest in running WM at least part time, since, as Gibbage pointed out, that was the OS it was originally designed to run.
Oh, and if Windows PHONE 7 gets "ported" (there is no "Port" needed, as the HD7 hardware is almost identical) it will run... well just like it runs on the HD7 (assuming bugs & issues can be worked out)

If Windows Mobile 7 Was Properly Ported Onto HTC HD2 Would It Be The Same As HTC HD7?

I have had my HTC HD2 for around 5-6 months now. Though I'm happy with it and it has exceeded my expectations, I was thinking of upgrading it to WM7 when it's finally ported for the HD2.
What I would love to know is if the HD2 indeed had WM7 ported for it, would it run the SAME as it would on HTC HD7?
Reason I ask this is because I was planning on selling my HD2 and get the HD7.
However, both phones have the SAME screen size, same 1ghz processor, same ram & same 5mp camera, the HD7 only being 720p.
Why should I sell my old HD2 to buy the new one which is the SAME spec?
That is why I was asking if WM7 was ported onto the HD2, would it:
- Run as quick?
- Responsive, fast & smooth
- If it really will be ported, when can we expect the first rom or when should it be made for HD2

I am sure sooner or later wp7 will be cracked and ported for HD2. So we will have the same device with HD7 except the looks. Also we have some more hard buttons as an extra

Its not the same.....
It might be a very similar spec but the actual components will differ.
No ported OS will ever run as smoothly as it would on its intended device....
If you want a dedicated WP7 then you'll have to get one not wait for a port.

The fact that it is a user-made port, most likely running off SD card will mean it may be a little more sluggish than something designed natively for, and run natively on, a different device.
That's assuming the problems using Live services are overcome too

conantroutman said:
Its not the same.....
It might be a very similar spec but the actual components will differ.
No ported OS will ever run as smoothly as it would on its intended device....
If you want a dedicated WP7 then you'll have to get one not wait for a port.
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Doh that's what I thought!
Well I hope at least if a port does take place, it will perform almost as good as it does on the HD7, but we have to wait and see first when one is made and how it performs.

the camera is capable of 720p it lacks drivers

From my understanding as of right now. The phone will boot into WP7 but it will not have any live application functionality. Meaning the live hubs will not work so no it will not work just like a HD7.

I personally cannot understand the hardware choices they made for WP7. They are all the same spec as the HD2, and personally I'm not shelling out $500ish for the equivalent of a Software upgrade. I'd get all your use out of the HD2 first and wait for the next Hardware generation, unless WP7 really is a big deal for you.
Personally, as a big WinMob fan, I'm now running Android on my HD2, and worryingly I might not come back to MS. Android is exceeding all my expectations, and with no upgrade path to WP7, it's beginning to win my heart, despite my slight mistrust of Google.
If WP7 does come to HD2, the big problem now does appear to be the use of Live Services. Maybe Microsoft may soon relent and sell genuine Licence Keys (there's no sign of that - it's just my wish), but until then you'll probably be locked out of them.

I have had many phones: MDA, Wing, Omnia I900, Iphone 3G and now the HTC HD2. I have Android on my HD2 and use it all the time. Only reboot back into WM every so often.
Why would I or anyone else want WM7? I can make my phone look like WM7, an iPhone, etc. Do looks really matter? Every OS has it advantages and disadvantages.
Android apps are plentiful, cheap and very good. Does WM7 have as many apps?
Do I loose a little (whatever) using Android on my HD2? If I do I don't know what.
Should I buy a new Android phone? What would I gain?
Lets be realistic. The phone companies just love to put out new phones with minor tweeks so us 'suckers' keep them in business. Where does it end?
Personally I can see buying new, if there is that much more bang for the buck. Otherwise, get the value out of what you have. In IT what you buy today is always a day behind what comes out tomorrow.
JMHO!

i am going to ask you why do you want wp7? it's a huge step backwards for users in several key areas and to regain some of that functionality, you need to do several hacks to get wp7 to do what WM 6.5 can already do with ease.

anhyeuemmaimai said:
i am going to ask you why do you want wp7? it's a huge step backwards for users in several key areas and to regain some of that functionality, you need to do several hacks to get wp7 to do what WM 6.5 can already do with ease.
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I accually hate WP7 interface and software. Really. This is my personal opinion.

anhyeuemmaimai said:
i am going to ask you why do you want wp7? it's a huge step backwards for users in several key areas and to regain some of that functionality, you need to do several hacks to get wp7 to do what WM 6.5 can already do with ease.
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I couldn't agree with you more.

Cause of interest in wp7, I read many tests and user ratings and played with it a time. After all I would buy myself an iPhone( I hate it ) instead of any wp7 phones. Its the same rubbish like iOS but for iPhone you can get more funny and useless apps . Also if you like a fast and smooth UI, WM6.5 or Android would be a better choice. wp7 will not allow to be really individual with your phone...all phones are the same hardware in other shells with same unchangeable UI. There are many more disadvantages...you should may inform yourself one more time.
But when you already know all of this there is no chance to help you

ike2903 said:
Cause of interest in wp7, I read many tests and user ratings and played with it a time. After all I would buy myself an iPhone( I hate it ) instead of any wp7 phones. Its the same rubbish like iOS but for iPhone you can get more funny and useless apps . Also if you like a fast and smooth UI, WM6.5 or Android would be a better choice. wp7 will not allow to be really individual with your phone...all phones are the same hardware in other shells with same unchangeable UI. There are many more disadvantages...you should may inform yourself one more time.
But when you already know all of this there is no chance to help you
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How are people saying WinMo and Android have faster smoother UI. That is false

Thanks everyone for your input, views and opinions.
As some have said, htc just want us to shell out another $500 just to get wm7 which may or may not be worth it since it does have the same hardware as the current htc hd2 and as it's new, there is a lot less software/apps & with regards to compatability, many existing apps for windows mobile 6.5 will not work with wm7.
Since this is the case, maybe there is no point in even upgrading to wm7 or buying a wm7 phone...
Anyway my other phone is the HTC Desire HD running android 2.2 froyo so I have the best of both.

well ! when phone 7 will be ported to HD2 microsoft will release wino 8 lol!

kanej2006 said:
I have had my HTC HD2 for around 5-6 months now. Though I'm happy with it and it has exceeded my expectations, I was thinking of upgrading it to WM7 when it's finally ported for the HD2.
What I would love to know is if the HD2 indeed had WM7 ported for it, would it run the SAME as it would on HTC HD7?
Reason I ask this is because I was planning on selling my HD2 and get the HD7.
However, both phones have the SAME screen size, same 1ghz processor, same ram & same 5mp camera, the HD7 only being 720p.
Why should I sell my old HD2 to buy the new one which is the SAME spec?
That is why I was asking if WM7 was ported onto the HD2, would it:
- Run as quick?
- Responsive, fast & smooth
- If it really will be ported, when can we expect the first rom or when should it be made for HD2
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First of all everything the hd7 has the hd2 has the only major change from the devices is that they added a kickstand.
I for one think that if the hd7 has same hardware as hd2 then running wp7 on hd2 shouldn't really be a difference. In a matter of fact the hd2 runs android well compared to other android devices that were made to run it.

OP, I think you should stay with the HD2. I'd rather have the ability to run four different operating systems (relatively well) than run a single system slightly better.

anhyeuemmaimai said:
i am going to ask you why do you want wp7? it's a huge step backwards for users in several key areas and to regain some of that functionality, you need to do several hacks to get wp7 to do what WM 6.5 can already do with ease.
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Indeed. As a matter of fact, i just recently bought an HD2. not full price, less than 300 euros for a brand new unusued unscratched device with 1 y warranty.
I knew very well that W7 was coming out, even that the HD7 was soon to be out. But its the same phone. I like having extra buttons (hate 100% touch phones.. i like to press something when it becomes unresponsive ). I like Winmobile, even if people say its ****. I like my collection of CAB files.
I like HD2. I like 6.5.
i dont like the new presentation of the phone on W7.. plus the apps will be slow to launch etc etc. If u really wanna upgrade, do it in a years time, get ur phone 50% off

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OP, I think you should stay with the HD2. I'd rather have the ability to run four different operating systems (relatively well) than run a single system slightly better.
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That's VERY true. I have indeed tried android on the hd2, it was responsive, quick & reliable.
When you see android running for the first time on your hd2, you smile and think to yourself ''how cool'' I got android on a phone meant to run windows.
Anyway, I will keep my hd2 for now...

Coming from Android.. how stable is it on HD2?

I have a Motorola Milestone and am intersted in an HD2. A few people around my area are selling them that run android but I want to know if android is running smoothly and is stable on this device. Is it ok for everyday use without messing around with it very much?
It would be to replace my milestone, which is an android device, so I'm wondering if the HD2 runs as smoothly as an actual android device
Thanks!

With NAND recently released for the HD2, I'd say very stable.
If I were you though, I'd rather buy a stock HD2 rather than an "android ready" HD2 just because of personal preference of builds. Buy a HD2, read the forums and look for a build that'll suit you. For me, iamgpc's gingerbread rom is good enough for me and I'm waiting for a official release of WP7

Well I could still just search around and do a wipe and flash of a build that I like right? (even if its android loaded)

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I'm waiting for a official release of WP7
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WP& Rom is ALREADY offically released. Its simply that it hasnt been directly released on XDA for various reasons.
Just because it hasnt been posted by cotulla doesnt mean it hasnt "officially" been released.

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Well I could still just search around and do a wipe and flash of a build that I like right? (even if its android loaded)
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Android works Great on the HD2 If you can get one cheep (under $200) get it and yes you can change android any time + if the HD2 already has Android it most likely has already had HSPL 2.08 and the Radio updated so thats less for you to have to learn how to do

Hi :-D
I have a motorola milestone (and develop for it ) and now a brand new HD2, and must say, WM lasted for about 35 seconds LOL
Now I have NAND desreHD build, and (without overclock but with memory optimization and tweaks) is butterly smooth!
Like and maybe more than Milestone...
With a senseless rom is far superior to a milestone (stockspeed) and like same smoothnes with [email protected] with MUCH more memory

As the others said, it is very stable now with NAND, and apparently now you can dual boot WP7 and Android off you SD cards. There are just plain SO MANY OPTIONS on this phone, so you will make a good move going. Plus you can hop back and forth to sense/non-sense with relative ease, especially with clockwork...

I bought my HD2 when launched. I now have NAND Android on it. I'm happy with it... BUT
If you want to buy and HD2 to put Android... why don't you buy a Desire HD instead? I was not able to compare both of them but I imagine that if hardware and OS are developped to go together it has to be better (faster boot, all working, stability) and after a while you will find custom Android ROM for it (maybe yet available).
If I have to buy something today, between HD2, HD7 and DHD... I will go for DHD. The hardware seems the best (8Mp camera, newer proc, more NAND).
Of course, all this depend at what price you'll find each device.

personally i will choose the HD2 because you can run android on it..HD2..HD7..evo there are the same phones..just one has a 8MP camera and a front camera but that is about it..I used to own a touch pro 2 unlocked version and I barely used the front camera..it was useless for me. So HD2 FTW.
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DHD has a front camera? I didn't even know this...
I just read that the DHD boot in 2sec; Is this real? If it is it could be very nice for me, I would like to know also if the A-GPS is working fine (I'm mean that data is written in the chip itself same as WM6 does on HD2).
But anyway, all this is subjective. I had a HD2 and I'm very happy with it. It's a really good device.
And second anyway... all this was not the initial subject... sorry for thread pollution
Yes, Android is stable on HD2 and it can be the main OS.

Need help regarding purchase of HD 2[Thread closed, since I have got my answer :-) ]

Hi guys,
I am originally from the xperia x10 section.
I am gonna buy a windows mobile for my sister on her birthday next Month. She always wanted to buy a windows phone which is fast and stable. The looks of the xperia x1 and HD 2 amazed her.
I wanted your help to choose the best of the two. I know hd2 is superior in specs.
Are there many roms for the hd2?
What might be the future of the device?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions!
Cheers!
AdY

before you get lots of 'are you serious? can you not see??' type replies, , look around the forum, its the most hacked phone around. winmo android, wp7, dualboot, nand android, sd android, ubuntu, win95, they all work on hd2.
roms, there are loads, what do you want? winmo 6.5, winmo 6.5.5, win phone 7, android eclaire, froyo, gingerbread, have one android on nand another on sd card if you want, run win phone 7 fron nand and dual boot it with sd card android, loooads of options, tehre isnt another phone about with as much choice. (You only have to compare teh number of sub foryums the hd2 has.)
As for the future, it has no future. It is the last of a dying breed. From here on out the phones will be a little less hackable. Thats not to say they wont be hacked, far from it im sure, but the choice of what you run on it is likely to be more limited, and you are unlikely to see a phone that is so easy to switch between OS's for some time.
I for one will by buying up two or three hd2's in the next few months, shoudl last me a year or three.

Hey bro! Thanks forbthe reply. Yes ibhad checked out the forum and I was pretty amazed with the amount of hacking that has been done on this phone.the reason why I am attracted to this device is that it supports or rather runs many popular platforms. I saw a couple of video reviews from phone dog, they say that the device freezes many times! My x10 used to lag but now I have tweaked it, it runs silky smooth. So are there methods to remove the freeze issue?
Thanks a ton
samsamuel said:
before you get lots of 'are you serious? can you not see??' type replies, , look around the forum, its the most hacked phone around. winmo android, wp7, dualboot, nand android, sd android, ubuntu, win95, they all work on hd2.
roms, there are loads, what do you want? winmo 6.5, winmo 6.5.5, win phone 7, android eclaire, froyo, gingerbread, have one android on nand another on sd card if you want, run win phone 7 fron nand and dual boot it with sd card android, loooads of options, tehre isnt another phone about with as much choice. (You only have to compare teh number of sub foryums the hd2 has.)
As for the future, it has no future. It is the last of a dying breed. From here on out the phones will be a little less hackable. Thats not to say they wont be hacked, far from it im sure, but the choice of what you run on it is likely to be more limited, and you are unlikely to see a phone that is so easy to switch between OS's for some time.
I for one will by buying up two or three hd2's in the next few months, shoudl last me a year or three.
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Cheers!
AdY

hd2 or xperia?
hd2 can run ubuntu meego android windows mobile win phone 7 believe it or not even full version of windows 98/me its got a snapdragon 1ghz processor its soooo customizable from boot screens to roms its just a better deal and now you can pick one up on craigslist for under 200 ive seen as low as 150 hd2 is the way to go

I think the biggest thing to consider is how your sister will be able to use the HD2.
Look at what she uses now, and how that is different from the HD2, how tech knowledgeable is she.
Is she interested in changing the ROM? Will she be able to do that? Will you do that for her?
My niece had a Wm6.x phone, but never truly used it to even a fraction of its abilities, and always had problems with it. [Now she has a Blackberry, and is doing great.]

Hey thanks for the reply! By looking at what you said this phone looks very promising! Will definitely go ahead with thus now
gh0zt36 said:
hd2 can run ubuntu meego android windows mobile win phone 7 believe it or not even full version of windows 98/me its got a snapdragon 1ghz processor its soooo customizable from boot screens to roms its just a better deal and now you can pick one up on craigslist for under 200 ive seen as low as 150 hd2 is the way to go
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AdY

Lol its not an issue. She uses the xperia x10 mini. She got quite bored if the form factor and all. I help her installing roms so that isn't an issue. She is pretty tech savy thanks for your suggestion and reply bro! I will definitely go ahead with this device! !! Thanks once again
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I think the biggest thing to consider is how your sister will be able to use the HD2.
Look at what she uses now, and how that is different from the HD2, how tech knowledgeable is she.
Is she interested in changing the ROM? Will she be able to do that? Will you do that for her?
My niece had a Wm6.x phone, but never truly used it to even a fraction of its abilities, and always had problems with it. [Now she has a Blackberry, and is doing great.]
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AdY