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Hope to see HD2 boot up with WM7 ... Any luck news about this other than http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-shown-on-the-hd2
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Hope to see HD2 boot up with WM7 ... Any luck news about this other than http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-shown-on-the-hd2
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we just have to wait and watch...
but there is some surity that WP7 will be port to HD2(yeah, we have nice piece of hardware )
Cotulla and his team already playing with WP7
Seems like there's a very good chance.... since all the new windows phone 7 uses the same 1st GEN snapdragon.
Which is also quite disappointing actually if you look at it from a different stand point. Pretty sad launch for HTC and Windows to use dated hardware which has been available since last year. You'd think they use newer hardware to really push a launch of the their new OS, which quite frankly is Microsoft's last chance to try and take back to mobile market......
i like wp7... im waiting quietly ... android works ok an wm is still an okay os.. so im in no rush
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I was thinking of getting a used HD2 to port android. any advice?
Adivce on what excatly? Android or the HD2 itself?
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I was thinking of getting a used HD2 to port android. any advice?
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If you want an Android phone, GET AN ANDROID phone. HD2 phone works with Android, but its not 100%, and you still have Winmo 6.5 in the background. It simply does not work as good (stability and speed) as a true Android phone. Im sure that IF WM7 gets ported, the same will be true. Close, but not close enough.
The HD2 is a phone for WM6.5 first, and other OS's second.
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If you want an Android phone, GET AN ANDROID phone. HD2 phone works with Android, but its not 100%, and you still have Winmo 6.5 in the background. It simply does not work as good (stability and speed) as a true Android phone. Im sure that IF WM7 gets ported, the same will be true. Close, but not close enough.
The HD2 is a phone for WM6.5 first, and other OS's second.
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I agree with almost all of your points but I can't agree that the Hd2 "won't" be as stable as a true Android phone is when the development has been finalized. Now if you are only speaking about today then "okay, you're right most of the Android builds aren't that stable yet". The Android build that I am using on my HD2 is 100% stable right "Now". As for speed it is faster than 99% of all the current new Android phones out right now. It is speed testing above the Nexus one Android 2.2 which I think almost everyone would agree is pretty fast. The camera being 3 megapixels instead of 5 is the "only" issue it has. The Video camera is actually better on the Android side than it is on Win Mobile side. And my win mobile rom is rock solid.
This next point is very important: The only reason the camera and other issues has not been resolved of yet is because HTC "had" not released the Kernel Source for the Android builds. Just yesterday HTC released the Kernel source of the Desire Z and the G2 which means that the Camera issues and foot print issues on the Desire Z, and Desire HD builds will likely be resolved in the "Very" near future. At which point my Android build which "honestly" is already stable and running faster that the Nexus one android 2.2 will be "Better" than most true Android phones when I choose to use Android.
As to the question that prompted your reply " I was thinking of getting a used HD2 to port android. any advice?". I totally agree with you that If the person asking the question wants a Android phone don't buy the HD2. But if it is choices that is wanted the HD2 is a good option. And it is why I chose to buy an HD2 in spite of the fact that Microsoft said they weren't going to update it to Win 7, which was going to make the 6.5 obsolete, and the available apps compared to the iPhone and the Android Market place are very, very weak. I knew that I would be using the Android Market place apps whenever I wanted to, and in time I would be shopping at the Win phone 7 market as well. Because of Xda developers the HD2 offers it's owners more choices than any other phone right now. And I for one love having choices : - )
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If you want an Android phone, GET AN ANDROID phone. HD2 phone works with Android, but its not 100%, and you still have Winmo 6.5 in the background. It simply does not work as good (stability and speed) as a true Android phone. Im sure that IF WM7 gets ported, the same will be true. Close, but not close enough.
The HD2 is a phone for WM6.5 first, and other OS's second.
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True but my T-Mobile HD2 with android is way better than a Motorola Cliq on 1.5 lol. Yes I know I shouldnt even compare an HD2 to a slow Moto Cliq
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This next point is very important: The only reason the camera and other issues has not been resolved of yet is because HTC "had" not released the Kernel Source for the Android builds. Just yesterday HTC released the Kernel source of the Desire Z and the G2 which means that the Camera issues and foot print issues on the Desire Z, and Desire HD builds will likely be resolved in the "Very" near future. At which point my Android build which "honestly" is already stable and running faster that the Nexus one android 2.2 will be "Better" than most true Android phones when I choose to use Android.
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Which (whose) Android are you using, and are you using on the stock 2.13 TMOUS ROM? I was on Darkstone's Froyosense, but the PPP kept dropping connection on me every 8 or so hours, and a 5-minute reboot made it a pain... so unless I can get an RMNET version or stable PPP release, I'm still not using Android as a daily unit (plus, battery life is still poor, although Nexus port has good battery life, but I get the robotic voice... <sigh>).
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Seems like there's a very good chance.... since all the new windows phone 7 uses the same 1st GEN snapdragon.
Which is also quite disappointing actually if you look at it from a different stand point. Pretty sad launch for HTC and Windows to use dated hardware which has been available since last year. You'd think they use newer hardware to really push a launch of the their new OS, which quite frankly is Microsoft's last chance to try and take back to mobile market......
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I can partially agree, but app developers along with the team that worked on this OS certainly need sure specs to be able to develop fragmentation free. Using this slightly older, but still very high end, specifications also allowed the OEMs to make devices with little or no driver development. This strategy is very Apple. This OS will not be 'open' as android or Winmo are. MSFT has alos stated that OTA updates come from them directly, with no red tape from Carriers or OEMs.
Sony's rumored PSP2 is an example. though a few developers have said that they have one, there have been no announcements for any region. these things are years in the making and changing something like the processor may have delayed launch.
Does anyone remember how dated the G1 (dream) looked at it's launch? it didn't even have 3.5mm jack.MSFT is getting this thing out as soon as it can. they don't want to be a Palm, and have devices leak like the pre2 that probably won't even get a date until CES
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I agree with almost all of your points but I can't agree that the Hd2 "won't" be as stable as a true Android phone is when the development has been finalized. Now if you are only speaking about today then "okay, you're right most of the Android builds aren't that stable yet". The Android build that I am using on my HD2 is 100% stable right "Now". As for speed it is faster than 99% of all the current new Android phones out right now. It is speed testing above the Nexus one Android 2.2 which I think almost everyone would agree is pretty fast. The camera being 3 megapixels instead of 5 is the "only" issue it has. The Video camera is actually better on the Android side than it is on Win Mobile side. And my win mobile rom is rock solid.
This next point is very important: The only reason the camera and other issues has not been resolved of yet is because HTC "had" not released the Kernel Source for the Android builds. Just yesterday HTC released the Kernel source of the Desire Z and the G2 which means that the Camera issues and foot print issues on the Desire Z, and Desire HD builds will likely be resolved in the "Very" near future. At which point my Android build which "honestly" is already stable and running faster that the Nexus one android 2.2 will be "Better" than most true Android phones when I choose to use Android.
As to the question that prompted your reply " I was thinking of getting a used HD2 to port android. any advice?". I totally agree with you that If the person asking the question wants a Android phone don't buy the HD2. But if it is choices that is wanted the HD2 is a good option. And it is why I chose to buy an HD2 in spite of the fact that Microsoft said they weren't going to update it to Win 7, which was going to make the 6.5 obsolete, and the available apps compared to the iPhone and the Android Market place are very, very weak. I knew that I would be using the Android Market place apps whenever I wanted to, and in time I would be shopping at the Win phone 7 market as well. Because of Xda developers the HD2 offers it's owners more choices than any other phone right now. And I for one love having choices : - )
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i totally agree with your comments and would like to add just one thing. There is not much android devices on market which has 1 gb rom and 500mb ram yet on the market. So Android on HD2 is still much better then most of the native android devices on the market even tho working on the sdcard yet. Once nand version is released it is gonna be a killer not only being able to run android but also multibootable! If you only gonna stick with android and you are in need of a new phone then only superior HTC android devices like desire HD might be a better choice imao
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Which (whose) Android are you using, and are you using on the stock 2.13 TMOUS ROM? I was on Darkstone's Froyosense, but the PPP kept dropping connection on me every 8 or so hours, and a 5-minute reboot made it a pain... so unless I can get an RMNET version or stable PPP release, I'm still not using Android as a daily unit (plus, battery life is still poor, although Nexus port has good battery life, but I get the robotic voice... ).
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Whenever my data drops I just turn off the wireless 3g network, then turn it back on, and that usually resolves the issue.
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I'm using the new hyper droid 1.6.on my hd2 and its daily.don't even touch winmo anymore.battery life its my only complaint.but I like having winmo as a backup. All droid phones have crappy battery.the fact that I can do anything to the droid rom and never worry about my device becoming a brick its great.plus having the option of three OS's (winmo, droid, ubuntu) is better then just having a droid.
Also what is "nand" ? Is it like the computer when you pc your os at boot? Rather then haret?
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I don't mean to be negative, I am actually really happy with my HD2 using WinMo- but I don't get the WP7 hype. I have watched the youtube videos and the OS looks cramped on the phone. I understand that Sense makes our phones look amazing; but I have heard that MS won't allow any Sense on WP7. The ability to customize my phone and make it look COMPLETELY different than anyone else's is one of the biggest draws to any phone; and from what I can see all the WP7 phones look the same!
Has MS done something completely outside the box with this phone that no one is talking about?
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I don't mean to be negative, I am actually really happy with my HD2 using WinMo- but I don't get the WP7 hype. I have watched the youtube videos and the OS looks cramped on the phone. I understand that Sense makes our phones look amazing; but I have heard that MS won't allow any Sense on WP7. The ability to customize my phone and make it look COMPLETELY different than anyone else's is one of the biggest draws to any phone; and from what I can see all the WP7 phones look the same!
Has MS done something completely outside the box with this phone that no one is talking about?
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One could only hope that was the case with WP7 but then again it is microsoft so the chances of it being something outside the box are yet to be seen..
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Which (whose) Android are you using, and are you using on the stock 2.13 TMOUS ROM? I was on Darkstone's Froyosense, but the PPP kept dropping connection on me every 8 or so hours, and a 5-minute reboot made it a pain... so unless I can get an RMNET version or stable PPP release, I'm still not using Android as a daily unit (plus, battery life is still poor, although Nexus port has good battery life, but I get the robotic voice... <sigh>).
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Try this combo... I am running Android as a daily driver... data is speedy (2MB Down / 1 MB Up here in Salt Lake City, UT).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802194
Use the OzDROID ROM here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774417
Then load the 2.5 update from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802194
You will be thoroughly impressed. It may freeze up during the first boot of Android. Just soft reset it and you'll be good to go. I used heavy 3G data all day and still had 40% battery at the end of the day. The touchscreen is much more responsive than with WM.
Good luck...
I think WP7 will eventually come. Android didn't take long because similar hardware with the same drivers launched and it was relatively easy to port. Windows Phone 7 has models that are basically the same hardware too so it should come quickly.
I'm anxiously awaiting this also! I dont use my HD2 anymore, I have an EVO for my regular phone... I love windows mobile though
Gibbage said:
If you want an Android phone, GET AN ANDROID phone. HD2 phone works with Android, but its not 100%, and you still have Winmo 6.5 in the background. It simply does not work as good (stability and speed) as a true Android phone. Im sure that IF WM7 gets ported, the same will be true. Close, but not close enough.
The HD2 is a phone for WM6.5 first, and other OS's second.
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I would not make comments off the cuff without actually knowing the facts. Yes, the HD2 was designed as a device to run WM 6.5 and/or WP7 At that date no one was clear on Microsoft's expectations and a hardware definition had not been made public. A lot of folks believe this was behind T-Mobile upping the Ram and ROM footprint, in the expectation it would be potentially upgradeable to WP7. Then Microsoft shot it down, so HTC has essentially reworked the same hardware with a few tweaks (love the little stereo speakers, not so much the kickstand, which LOOKS cool as hell, but is claimed to be unstable from the rounded base-edge)
That said, the next point is, Windows Mobile does NOT "run in the background" - It is there mostly to initialize the hardware (else we would be in driver hell) and when Haret boots the Android kernel, it first UNLOADS the WM kernel. So no, Android does NOT run on top of WM, as a lot of folks seem to misunderstand.
Finally: Stability and Speed? Okay some builds are just reaching a stable point (remembering that we have only HAD working Android builds for 3 months when they first got it booting properly on 8250 Snapdragon Processor.) and perhaps you have not SEEN the cute little performance graphs, provided bay Quadrant on the builds? (see attached)Even the attached Performance numbers - the SLOWEST I have EVER gotten on my HD2 (Usually see 1500+) blow away the Nexus One running Froyo 2.2, Moto Droid X and Samsung Galaxy S - Three of the hottest Android Phones out there (well, the Nexus is getting a bit long in the tooth)
So, to the guy looking for advice? Lets say that while you CAN run android on it, you WILL have to jump through some technical hoops, and you SHOULD at least have an interest in running WM at least part time, since, as Gibbage pointed out, that was the OS it was originally designed to run.
Oh, and if Windows PHONE 7 gets "ported" (there is no "Port" needed, as the HD7 hardware is almost identical) it will run... well just like it runs on the HD7 (assuming bugs & issues can be worked out)
Posted a topic on which phone was the most hackable one? I got nexus one as the answer but i am seeing so much development on HD2 (WP7, android, meego, ubuntu) and it seems to me that this is actually the best hackable phone right now??? or i am missing a point?
i am mainly interested in android and maybe WP7...
so questions:
how well does android 2.2/2.3 runs on HD2? in terms of overall performance for web browsing (slow? saw a vid on youtube that scrolling and zooming lags a bit), apps/games compatibility (e.g. do some games lag?)
same for WP7
and most important question for me : does flash 10.1 works on android for HD2? (already posted a topic on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914547: so you can answer on the thread instead)
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Posted a topic on which phone was the most hackable one? I got nexus one as the answer but i am seeing so much development on HD2 (WP7, android, meego, ubuntu) and it seems to me that this is actually the best hackable phone right now??? or i am missing a point?
i am mainly interested in android and maybe WP7...
so questions:
how well does android 2.2/2.3 runs on HD2? in terms of overall performance for web browsing (slow? saw a vid on youtube that scrolling and zooming lags a bit), apps/games compatibility (e.g. do some games lag?)
same for WP7
and most important question for me : does flash 10.1 works on android for HD2? (already posted a topic on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914547: so you can answer on the thread instead)
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the new superRAM (SD) and NAND builds are just like a normal android phone. everything works perfect. i'm using android on hd2 since many months, never used winmo 6.5 anymore. absolutely no issues. trying wp7 now, i guess i'll go back to android (android = open system, much more better than iphone like restrictions)
yeahman45 said:
Posted a topic on which phone was the most hackable one? I got nexus one as the answer but i am seeing so much development on HD2 (WP7, android, meego, ubuntu) and it seems to me that this is actually the best hackable phone right now??? or i am missing a point?
i am mainly interested in android and maybe WP7...
so questions:
how well does android 2.2/2.3 runs on HD2? in terms of overall performance for web browsing (slow? saw a vid on youtube that scrolling and zooming lags a bit), apps/games compatibility (e.g. do some games lag?)
same for WP7
and most important question for me : does flash 10.1 works on android for HD2? (already posted a topic on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914547: so you can answer on the thread instead)
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The higher quality Android roms run just as well as a native android phone...I'd say it runs better than most un-rooted, native android phones actually. Flash works on Android.
The older builds lagged and had problems, but the super ram builds and NAND builds ran very quickly and smoothly on my TMOUSA HD2.
As far as WP7 goes, the HD2 is buttery smooth and runs like a native WP7 phone. I'm impressed with it.
Obviously, running hacked ROMS, there are always little nuances and caveats you have to deal with that you wouldn't have to on a phone that natively runs WP7 or Android, but having the choice of running so many different OS's makes it very much worthwhile. The ability to load WP7 from ram and Android from SD card is a big plus. The thought of one day being able to dual boot both OS's is an even bigger plus.
The Nexus one runs Android only. The HD2 runs WM6.5, Android, WP7, and Ubuntu. No brainer there.
The HD2 is the first phone that I actually liked more over time
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seriously lmao, dude there is absolutley no contest, and im not just saying because im a HD2 user im saying it because its a fact, The HD2 is THE most versatile phone/ppc there is for MANY reasons.
If you enjou tinkering with phone, trying different OS's and great phone specs at same time then there is no other choice then the HD2, simple as that.
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The ability to load WP7 from ram and Android from SD card is a big plus.
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You dont run WP7 from RAM you run it from NAND.
I would add that if at all possible one should attempt to get a leo1024 instead of the 512 model, you'll find those to be the most versatile of the two. Top of the top in hackability afaik.
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thx for the replies... what is leo 1024? 1024 flash memory?
going to buy one in Singapore there:
http://www.mobilesquare.com.sg/products/products_detail.asp?pid=1140&cid=76
looks like it's a 512mb flash version?
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The higher quality Android roms run just as well as a native android phone...I'd say it runs better than most un-rooted, native android phones actually. Flash works on Android.
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So that i can geta good idea of the performance, as compared to the htc desire, how well does android 2.2 perform on HD2? ( equal, little less or quite a big gap in performance)?
Short answer: yes, HD2 is the most hackable and customizable phone ever. There is no second device like HD2 on which you can choose between 3 (or maybe even 4) fully working mobile OSes and few ports of PC OS's (old Windows 95/98 and Ubuntu)!
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thx for the replies... what is leo 1024? 1024 flash memory?
going to buy one in Singapore there:
http://www.mobilesquare.com.sg/products/products_detail.asp?pid=1140&cid=76
looks like it's a 512mb flash version?
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Leo 1024 is HTC HD2 branded by T-Mobile which has 1024 MB of ROM storage, which means you get around 700 mb instead of 200 mb for apps when using Android and around 650 mb of storage on WinMo 6.5.
WP7 does not utilize full 1024 mb, it works as you had leo512.
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Short answer: yes, HD2 is the most hackable and customizable phone ever. There is no second device like HD2 on which you can choose between 3 (or maybe even 4) fully working mobile OSes and few ports of PC OS's (old Windows 95/98 and Ubuntu)!
Leo 1024 is HTC HD2 branded by T-Mobile which has 1024 MB of ROM storage, which means you get around 700 mb instead of 200 mb for apps when using Android and around 650 mb of storage on WinMo 6.5.
WP7 does not utilize full 1024 mb, it works as you had leo512.
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+1 here,oh Meego aswell soon.maybe even windows XP one day The possibilitys with this thing are so unreal,its ridiculous.I think it will be a while before we get anougher device like it that can do all this stuff.Yeah if you can,Get a TMOUS HD2,Our Euro units struggle a bit on internal Mem,Were still having to use sd and partition them so we have enough space,Wonder What phone all the devs will be going to for the next big major Crack like this,HD7 perhaps
HD2 is usefull mobile device that I very like it.
It's very very very nice for me.
Also XDA devices are nice as I used before since : hx2750 ---> xda Atom Exec ---> hw6965 ---> HD2
Nexus one can also run ubuntu. But so can the hd2 lol
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The higher quality Android roms run just as well as a native android phone...I'd say it runs better than most un-rooted, native android phones actually. Flash works on Android.
The older builds lagged and had problems, but the super ram builds and NAND builds ran very quickly and smoothly on my TMOUSA HD2.
As far as WP7 goes, the HD2 is buttery smooth and runs like a native WP7 phone. I'm impressed with it.
Obviously, running hacked ROMS, there are always little nuances and caveats you have to deal with that you wouldn't have to on a phone that natively runs WP7 or Android, but having the choice of running so many different OS's makes it very much worthwhile. The ability to load WP7 from ram and Android from SD card is a big plus. The thought of one day being able to dual boot both OS's is an even bigger plus.
The Nexus one runs Android only. The HD2 runs WM6.5, Android, WP7, and Ubuntu. No brainer there.
The HD2 is the first phone that I actually liked more over time
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Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
If there was a list of hack-ability, where would the EVO rank? I love my EVO but I really like the HD2.
from my EVO using XDA app.
yeahman45 said:
So that i can geta good idea of the performance, as compared to the htc desire, how well does android 2.2 perform on HD2? ( equal, little less or quite a big gap in performance)?
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how is performance of android on HD2 as compared to the desire(apparently the best android phone)?
unfortunately, i will be able to get only the 512mb version of HD2.. can you do dual boot (android and wp7) on it? can't i save and run my android apps on sd? (apart from additional storage, the 2 models are identical right(512 vs 1024): i mean i can install same custom roms, hacks etc.. right?)
This is the only phone with this much hacking potential/ability. Makes me glad I bought it, even at full price.
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yeahman45 said:
how is performance of android on HD2 as compared to the desire(apparently the best android phone)?
unfortunately, i will be able to get only the 512mb version of HD2.. can you do dual boot (android and wp7) on it? can't i save and run my android apps on sd? (apart from additional storage, the 2 models are identical right(512 vs 1024): i mean i can install same custom roms, hacks etc.. right?)
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yeahman45 said:
So that i can geta good idea of the performance, as compared to the htc desire, how well does android 2.2 perform on HD2? ( equal, little less or quite a big gap in performance)?
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I can't speak for the Desire, as it isn't available where I am locally, but around here, everyone who isn't using an iPhone seems to be using an HTC EVO. In terms of performance, the HD2 running the more recent Android ROMS performs just as well, if not better, than a stock EVO.
There's also a video out there with an HD2 running WP7 side by side a stock WP7 phone, and the HD2 was actually faster than the stock WP7 phone.
That being said, if you're intention is to stick with Android, then get an Android phone. The beauty of the HD2 is the ability to run multiple OS's, and hopefully one day dual-boot any combination of OS's. But a stock Android phone will certainly have fewer quirks and tweaks to worry about to run perfectly. Owning an HD2 and keeping up with all of the developments really is a it of a commitment.
I think mostly all phone r hackable ...
credit should be given to dev like cotulla, DFT, all in htc-linux team that make it possible.
hendr1k said:
I think mostly all phone r hackable ...
credit should be given to dev like cotulla, DFT, all in htc-linux team that make it possible.
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Most are hackable, but only the HD2 is able to run this many OS's.
Most phone are only able to run hacked versions of its native OS.
mystik610 said:
I can't speak for the Desire, as it isn't available where I am locally, but around here, everyone who isn't using an iPhone seems to be using an HTC EVO. In terms of performance, the HD2 running the more recent Android ROMS performs just as well, if not better, than a stock EVO.
There's also a video out there with an HD2 running WP7 side by side a stock WP7 phone, and the HD2 was actually faster than the stock WP7 phone.
That being said, if you're intention is to stick with Android, then get an Android phone. The beauty of the HD2 is the ability to run multiple OS's, and hopefully one day dual-boot any combination of OS's. But a stock Android phone will certainly have fewer quirks and tweaks to worry about to run perfectly. Owning an HD2 and keeping up with all of the developments really is a it of a commitment.
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ok thx! i wanna use android as my main os and then WP7 as secondary for fun and testing ... like the idea to be able to install multiple os... always like to use the full potential of a device... this is what i did with my psp (with homebrew: vnc, better mp3 player, retrogaming emulation) and my wii (homebrew: media player center, vnc, retrogaming emulation) that's so much more fun!
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I think mostly all phone r hackable ...
credit should be given to dev like cotulla, DFT, all in htc-linux team that make it possible.
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I've had my HD2 since September 2009 and I have had an amazing time tinkering with it. I've run Gingerbread on it and am running WP7 right now (stuck at the Live Services verification). Having said all this, I am beginning to wonder which phone will be the next "most hackable phone". Which phone will the likes of Cotulla turn their attention to next?
4 weeks ago and 1 year into my 24 month Orange contract, I was ready to sell my HD2 (Eur 512mb) and buy myself out of my contract so I could get a phone based on android simply because I was soooo bored with winmo 6.5
By chance I stumbled across xda devs and saw it was possible to run android from SD card and dual boot it with winmo.....I was overjoyed! a couple of weeks later NAND flashes became available and I was amazed at the fluidity of it running on my HD2 (Eur 512mb)....that made me even happier. I'm so glad I kept my phone, I saved myself a packet all thanks XDA and the band of devs. HD2 FTW
Sorry to create a new thread, this is my last one in HD2 Section.
I am happy with my hd2 from the last 11months and in last 6 months I am habituated to test builds and even tried to make builds on my own but ofcourse failed. Usually, I won't stick with a mobile for more than 3 months.
But this Mobile has different OS and it was a powerful one. Now I am fed up with testing Android builds and their stability, battery etc. So I want to use a native Android phone and so I am going to purchase DesireHD with a stock Android rom and I need to concentrate on my studies other than concentrating on XDA and my mobile.
Thanks for all the Developers in HD2 section, especially Cotulla for Android and WP7 on our HD2, Mdeejay but we're missing him a lot , hope he will be back soon and finally Imilka who is currently replacing the work of Mdeejay.
Bye!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
I agree with you. the HD2 has been awesome with the support of the XDA community!
Yea I love the hell out of my hd2 but can't wait to get a native android phone aka htc pyramud.
yeah, HD2 is not for the faint of heart...
HTC Pyramid, here I come..
any pyramid news?
TooHot2Handle said:
HTC Pyramid, here I come..
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i love the hd2 but I am really want a native android device as well. Do you have any other sites or info on the pyramid? i am not happy with the t-mo offering so I will be switching to the mythical device should it actually appear.
yah but finding a 4.3in. screen with 4 different OS is gonna be hard. even the best native android phone with stock sense isgonna b slow compared to hd2
"When i die i wanna be buried face down......so everyone that doesnt like me can KISS MY ASS" - Red Forman
chrisgto4 said:
yah but finding a 4.3in. screen with 4 different OS is gonna be hard. even the best native android phone with stock sense isgonna b slow compared to hd2
"When i die i wanna be buried face down......so everyone that doesnt like me can KISS MY ASS" - Red Forman
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Completely agree... also DesireHD is not even close to HD2... especially if you talk about battery life...
chrisgto4 said:
yah but finding a 4.3in. screen with 4 different OS is gonna be hard. even the best native android phone with stock sense isgonna b slow compared to hd2
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And do you know why they are slower compared to the HD2? Cuz the stock rom hasn't been tweaked to their fullest... While for the HD2, we have our custom roms roms tweaked to the fullest for maximum user satisfaction.
Now when a true android device is flashed with a custom rom, it is also, or atleast should be, tweaked to the fullest. And when that device is on its custom rom, it flies well beyond where our HD2's stopped and fell.
Now i'm not saying our HD2's aren't great for android, heck it is. But people, don't get ahead of yourself and start thinking it's as good or even better than a true 1ghz android device, heck the desire z, at it's 800mhz is better.
My mytouch 4g has more ram, therefore less lag. But I still bought an hd2. Simply for a 4.3" android device on tmous
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Kailkti said:
And do you know why they are slower compared to the HD2? Cuz the stock rom hasn't been tweaked to their fullest... While for the HD2, we have our custom roms roms tweaked to the fullest for maximum user satisfaction.
Now when a true android device is flashed with a custom rom, it is also, or atleast should be, tweaked to the fullest. And when that device is on its custom rom, it flies well beyond where our HD2's stopped and fell.
Now i'm not saying our HD2's aren't great for android, heck it is. But people, don't get ahead of yourself and start thinking it's as good or even better than a true 1ghz android device, heck the desire z, at it's 800mhz is better.
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+1... completely agree there. A lot of people here didn't seem to understand that when they were always posting how the HD2 is faster than native devices... they were comparing a rooted, tweaked device to an unrooted, stock device, and thought it was a fair comparison. And many acted like other phones didn't have their own forums with custom roms and tweaks, and ports of other android phones.
If I just used Android, I would definitely love to get a native phone... but since I've been dualbooting WP7 and Android, I am going to have a very hard time deciding what new phone to get. Right now, Android is definitely capable of more, but seeing what's in store for WP7, and seeing how quickly the homebrew community is taking apart WP7 and learning to tweak and hack it, I know WP7 will catch up quick. I wouldn't be able to decide between to 2... I actually kinda prefer using WP7 as my day to day OS, but there are still too many limitations to completely stick with wp7. I can't play my psx or snes games on wp7, there's no good navigation, and many other things that are missing still. I also love being able to customize my android homescreens. So at this point I like them both about equally, and use them both about the same amount... so I'm gonna be sticking with my HD2 for a while longer... probably at least until the end of the year and I can see where each OS is at and see what hardware is available then. I'm really hoping that they start porting android to WP7 devices, so hopefully I can get a next generation device at some point that can run both OS's again... but it will probablt be a long time, if ever, that we see a device that gets modded and hacked like the HD2 did. The HD2 was a very unique device... there was never a phone that got modded as much and probably never will be again, unfortunately.
Kind of feel the same way I love testing out different Roms for the HD2 and love the screen size but I want to play around with a Native Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S 4G) to see whats its all about plus it would be nice to finally be able to charge a phone while its turned off. Im stilling going to keep my HD2 though I still feel like its one of the top phones out.
JDM_HD2 said:
Kind of feel the same way I love testing out different Roms for the HD2 and love the screen size but I want to play around with a Native Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S 4G) to see whats its all about plus it would be nice to finally be able to charge a phone while its turned off. Im stilling going to keep my HD2 though I still feel like its one of the top phones out.
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dont be in any hurry. you really are not missing much. those samsung android phones do have an amazing screen though. just saying that if you are going to upgrade, make sure whatever you are getting is a worthy upgrade. flashing these custom roms and trying to find the "perfect" and "flawless" android build for our hd2's can be annoying at times but its doable..
but i guarantee, like most of us you want the most out of your device and you will end up rooting and flash custom roms on your new android smartphone just like you do now. and like many, you will also run into problems and those custom roms will always not be the most stable... just like some of these android roms for the hd2...
if you are on tmobile i would try to wait it out. see what the pyramid is all about and what other android smartphone will come out for tmo. the build quality alone makes the hd2 on a different level than most smartphones out there.
shree.cse said:
Sorry to create a new thread, this is my last one in HD2 Section.
I am happy with my hd2 from the last 11months and in last 6 months I am habituated to test builds and even tried to make builds on my own but ofcourse failed. Usually, I won't stick with a mobile for more than 3 months.
But this Mobile has different OS and it was a powerful one. Now I am fed up with testing Android builds and their stability, battery etc. So I want to use a native Android phone and so I am going to purchase DesireHD with a stock Android rom and I need to concentrate on my studies other than concentrating on XDA and my mobile.
Thanks for all the Developers in HD2 section, especially Cotulla for Android and WP7 on our HD2, Mdeejay but we're missing him a lot , hope he will be back soon and finally Imilka who is currently replacing the work of Mdeejay.
Bye!
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u could give hyperdroid by pongster a shot.. its really very stable and smooth as well as fast.. definitely a daily use build..
fi3ry_icy said:
u could give hyperdroid by pongster a shot.. its really very stable and smooth as well as fast.. definitely a daily use build..
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I am using Imilka's glacier sense 1.3 from the last 25 days exactly from Feb3. I don't find any other build stable and better than this with sense even colourful. Thank you! I will try
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This is truely an amazing phone, intending to keep it till the end of the year, then going for the pyramid probably, or another smartphone with Android.
But ye, again, great phone.
Got my new DesireHD, rooted and now its with Gingerbread sense 2.1
Pretty happy in upgrading from HD2
I can see a lot difference in performance on DesireHD
Very Thankful to all the Android developers.
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Htc hd2 is the best at least till now
JDM_HD2 said:
Kind of feel the same way I love testing out different Roms for the HD2 and love the screen size but I want to play around with a Native Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S 4G) to see whats its all about plus it would be nice to finally be able to charge a phone while its turned off. Im stilling going to keep my HD2 though I still feel like its one of the top phones out.
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Yeah man i wanna do that also someday, not now No Budget!
However, we can charge our phone when they are OFF with Magldr 1.11!
Last week my battery died so i freaked out hearing/reading that it wont charge etc... I plugged it for about 4 or 5 hrs and then i switched it on and SURPRISE!! It booted and had 60% battery!
Only minor issue is that you will have to unplug-replug the battery!
i think it is about 6-7 monthes before the hd2 forum is empty like all old phones , but it was the best phone i've ever had , and won't upgrade untill a similar htc phone is released , The only thing i'll be sad about is you xda developrs and hd2 community , we will be distributed among different phons and forums
Hello, my wife has a sidekick 4g that she absolutely hates and has gotten an offer to trade for an hd2. My question is, the person says it is running 2.3.5. How stable is android on the hd2? If I tell her to trade and it sucks, I will be in the doghouse! Also, if I can convince her to give windows phone 7 a shot, how does that run? I can do the searching later to find out how to boot between the two, but is it pretty risky/hard? I've rooted and rom'd every android phone I've owned but something about winmo. Makes me nervous. Thanks!
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rogerski1 said:
Hello, my wife has a sidekick 4g that she absolutely hates and has gotten an offer to trade for an hd2. My question is, the person says it is running 2.3.5. How stable is android on the hd2? If I tell her to trade and it sucks, I will be in the doghouse! Also, if I can convince her to give windows phone 7 a shot, how does that run? I can do the searching later to find out how to boot between the two, but is it pretty risky/hard? I've rooted and rom'd every android phone I've owned but something about winmo. Makes me nervous. Thanks!
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both OS are stable enough for daily use ! just get the HD2...you wont regret it !
backlashsid said:
both OS are stable enough for daily use ! just get the HD2...you wont regret it !
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I agree. Just make sure the touch screen works they are infamouse for them breaking. The phone is easy to root and nearly every rom on xda runs perfect on this phone
I've had my HD2 for 2 years now, and I knew nothing about rooting etc. It took me a whole day to learn, but now I can easily switch ROMs within half an hour max.
I've tried multiple Android ROMs (SD and NAND) and a WM7 ROM before the mango update, and everything works incredibly smooth and fully-functional. It's actually even better than the original Windows Mobile OS, so I'd highly recommend giving it a fiddle! Trust me, you can't really go wrong if you follow all the right advice (stickies have all the good stuff!)
Once you get going I think you'll really love the variety of builds and find one that you're comfortable with. Enjoy!
Awesome! Thanks guys, sounds like its a go then! I may even be wanting one for myself!
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Well it all depends on which rom/settings/tweaks you use but in general Android is more stable and runs better on the HD2 then most native Android devices!
cmacia06 said:
I agree. Just make sure the touch screen works they are infamouse for them breaking. The phone is easy to root and nearly every rom on xda runs perfect on this phone
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You dont "root" the HD2.
I'm using CM7_Tweaked-2.0.0-LEO and radio 2.15.50.14. I would not describe it as very stable and I cannot get the radio to do 3g or H. Perhaps my expectationa are too high and I'm sure it is more stable on Android than Windows, but I am not happy with it.
I have the same problem. would like to update my Leo by Android but I do not know what is the best ROM to do that in terms of stability, display errors and energy management? I was using 2.3.5 NAND version which had quit a lot of bugs. Now I'm back on WM
Android on the hd2 in my opinion runs better on this device than some devices that are launched with it.
Load up NexusHD 2.3.7 and you or your wife won't look back.
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I have the same problem. would like to update my Leo by Android but I do not know what is the best ROM to do that in terms of stability, display errors and energy management? I was using 2.3.5 NAND version which had quit a lot of bugs. Now I'm back on WM
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Well you are not going to find out unless you try them. Also "2.3.5. NAND" means absolutely nothing as that isnt rom specific, that is just a version number of Android OS.
In my experience the most stable version without needing tweaks/extra setup etc is the NexusHD2 roms by tytung (Froyo) and (Gingerbread) and they are as close to stock Android as you will get.
I am addicted to trying new roms though and have started to really like the MIUI based roms but am currently testing the new NexusHD2 ICS base.
HD2 forever ...
I have an EU and a from about 2 month a TMOUS:
- EU with MIUI 2.37a stable ... hard daily use, it rocks!!!
- TMOUS to try other roms with sense (big internal space required, i hate app2sd ) and tried 3 different version of ICS for now without any problem!!!
I have thought about changing them for a real android but ... i love modding ... so no chance for other model for now
A quick reply? Buy a TMOUS
Cheers
Roms
Since you have tried many different roms, have you found a sense 3.5 that can play 720p video? Mwakious 3.5 does not
HD2 was build for Android, delivering it with WM6.5 was a joke!
Hello everyone, I just recently lost my phone and im officially back on the market for a new smartphone. I was wondering what everyone thinks about the HTC HD2. I haven't seen any good reviews on youtube--at least not specifically running on Android... Can anyone give me some input?
HTC HD2 originally runs on Windows (which im not used to) but it seems pretty similar to android according to some youtube videos [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neQ_iFf4s2Y]
So what do you guys think? If I do get the HD2.. should I flash it to ICS? Jellybean? Gingerbread? Or just stick with the windows? And if I do flash it.. does it compromise the speed?
Thank you for your help!
chrisleealee said:
Hello everyone, I just recently lost my phone and im officially back on the market for a new smartphone. I was wondering what everyone thinks about the HTC HD2. I haven't seen any good reviews on youtube--at least not specifically running on Android... Can anyone give me some input?
HTC HD2 originally runs on Windows (which im not used to) but it seems pretty similar to android according to some youtube videos [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neQ_iFf4s2Y]
So what do you guys think? If I do get the HD2.. should I flash it to ICS? Jellybean? Gingerbread? Or just stick with the windows? And if I do flash it.. does it compromise the speed?
Thank you for your help!
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Depending of the price you are going to buy one, this is still the greatest phone made by HTC.
You can flash whatever rom you want, ICS and JB run smooth.
The HD2 is THE allrounder smartphone ever made
Great Hardware and open for multple Operating System
You should flash android anyway
There are very good ICS and JB roms out there
I for myself sticked to GB roms (MIUI GB Version most of the time i had one) because the camera was running much better
then in the ICS or JB roms and that never got fixed.
Its a great phone
Here in Hamburg / Germany the phone cost between 120€ and 200 € depending on its condition
Hope that helps you
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If today my hd2 breaks...i will buy a galaxy note2 and give it to my wife and take her hd2..
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The HD2 supports a wide variety of operating systems: Windows Mobile 6.5, Windows Phone 7, all versions of Android, Ubuntu, Maemo... If you like wasting time flashing your phone, then the HD2 is definitely the best choice.
The most stable Android builds so far are still the Gingerbread ones, but JB is not bad either. Developer interest for the HD2 is slowly decreasing, but there are still a few builds out there that get regular updates.
chrisleealee said:
Opinions?
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if you are capable of a slightly-more-technical-than-most-phones flashing process, and want a technical toy with roms and options and possibilities that may or may not be running 100% correctly, may have a glitch or two here and there, but gives you as much freedom as you can cope with, then get a HD2.
As to what you should flash, , flash everything, if you like a rom, use it, if you don't, change it.
If you want a 100% android phone and are only interested in maybe skinning up a rom, changing icons, installing apps, then get an android phone.
The HD2 has great xda support, it really is one of the best. However, I would not consider the HD2 unless you could get it for really cheap
HD2 Pros
Great xda support with tons of different OS
No really, I will only buy Nexus phones now because i was spoiled on how great the support was for the HD2... It seemed no other phones reached the level of HD2 (for andriod)
HD2 Cons:
Hardware buttons do not last very long (~year) and I much prefer software/touch buttons.
Outdated hardware. EX: Galaxy Nexus is much faster/refined
Other issues that may or may not have been fixed since i last used the HD2:
Corrupt blocks causing random crashes
Bad Multi-touch (sucks for games)
Battery life kinda sucked