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Camcorder for Gingerbread Build

Guys I'm been using MDJ and MCCM Gingerbread build ,both of them had the camera running , but why so hard to get the Camcorder to function is it due to the kernel,driver or something else ... Can somebody here that can share your experience with me i want to tweak the build my self if i know where to started thanks .

Well the current Gingerbread builds are based off of the SDK tools that were released to developers. And normal builds for HD2 are either based off of Desire HD, Desire, or Nexus One (There are others but these are the main ones.). So since an actual Nexus One Gingerbread rom has not been ripped yet and ported, you don't have the camcorder function working.

skrizzyboy said:
Well the current Gingerbread builds are based off of the SDK tools that were released to developers. And normal builds for HD2 are either based off of Desire HD, Desire, or Nexus One (There are others but these are the main ones.). So since an actual Nexus One Gingerbread rom has not been ripped yet and ported, you don't have the camcorder function working.
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Thanks for the feedback so that's mean no way around can make the camcorder working until the actual Gingerbread rom has posted.
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yesucan said:
Thanks for the feedback so that's mean no way around can make the camcorder working until the actual Gingerbread rom has posted.
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It's very, very, very, highly unlikely, but Google are pretty good. You shouldn't be waiting too long.

[Q] Gingerbread 2.3.4 & Sense for HD2?

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_...gingerbread_on_16_may_in_the_uk-news-2638.php
The above article says that HTC Desire HD and Incredible S get Gingerbread on 16 May. Today is the 17th. Anybody got any news?
I'm sure these updates could help speed up the efforts to have a fully working version of Ginger-Sense for the HD2.

It's better to stick with your favorite Gingerbread Sense ROM for updates. If your favorite ROM thread is still support by the dev, he will surely upgrade his Sense build. Instead of making a thread that won't fasten his work. Give him a week or two after the official release date to update it in his thread.

I was asking because there's no Gingerbread Sense ROM that really works.
There are only 2 Sense ROMs that are Gingerbread based: imilka's Gingerbread Sense and RafDroid HD Gingerbread. Each of them has a long list of known issues and I assume they are made from bits and pieces of other Sense ROMs.
I assumed that having a Desire HD Ginger-ROM would stimulate other developers to get on board of similar projects.
I don't own a Desire HD so I don't know if the update has been released. I thought some of the people on this forum should know more on this issue.
I'm not trying to waste anyone's time, I was just asking a legitimate question.
PS: right now I'm running the same ROM that you are running.

of course there is no fully working one yet because the devs need access tothe source code and libraries used to be able to hack them to work on our hd2

deviant007 said:
I was asking because there's no Gingerbread Sense ROM that really works.
There are only 2 Sense ROMs that are Gingerbread based: imilka's Gingerbread Sense and RafDroid HD Gingerbread. ...
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There are some more Gingerbread Sense rom's, but max. Android 2.3.3.
There are no V2.3.4 sense rom from HTC available.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058110
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989289
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076951
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075703
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075621
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066279
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062881 (Post 4+5)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052298
Have tried some, the stablest are the roms with the Sense 2.1 lock screen or the 3.0 one without the app-links. Pictures from the camera are a little bit unsharp with less light, camcorder works in no rom. But Dungphp said, it was working nearly. If you can live without the camera, you will have no graphical glitches. Had often start problems of the sense launcher, after install or after some reboot's.
All problems should be solved if HTC will release the code of the desire gingerbread kernel (!not desire HD, this is already released but hardware is more different).

I will check today and let you know.

Yeah i tried a few Ginger sense builds and whilst they are good they are still way too buggy for everday use not to mention the camcorder issue not resolved so i wont be flashing any more until they are stable.

Forgot the only solution to record a video. "Videocam illusion" record video's in .mov format at our sense gingerbread rom's, but the quality is not so good.

jonny68 said:
Yeah i tried a few Ginger sense builds and whilst they are good they are still way too buggy for everday use not to mention the camcorder issue not resolved so i wont be flashing any more until they are stable.
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+1, returned to stable froyo sense.
The stablest one was the sbryan12144 v0.2, no installation problem's and everthing working very fast. But the glitches and the bad camera and camcorder was 1 problem too much for me.

[16.May.11]BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA DESIRE HD V14*GINGER 2.3.4_Sense&HoneyComB V21*MIUI V2

Richy99 said:
of course there is no fully working one yet because the devs need access tothe source code and libraries used to be able to hack them to work on our hd2
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Yes, I know what they need to make the magic happen. I'm also a developer (C++/C#/SQL Windows software), and though I have little to no experience on Android software & ROMs, I know how hard they work for everything they do.
BTW HTC should kiss XDA's feet each and every morning. I got more support on this site than I ever got from HTC.

^^^it just so

bates_1974 said:
[16.May.11]BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA DESIRE HD V14*GINGER 2.3.4_Sense&HoneyComB V21*MIUI V2
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tried it but wayyyy too buggy at present.

[Q] Gingerbread Source (Glitch fix)??

http://htcdev.com/
What does this mean for us HD2 users?

It means we might have to wait a bit longer for the actual source to come available.. But there might be some interesting things in this ROM. We will know shortly

Sorry to keep asking questions, but what source is needed? I see the source for the GB kernels for various phones - what exactly is missing?
Just trying to understand better.

MikeG4936 said:
Sorry to keep asking questions, but what source is needed? I see the source for the GB kernels for various phones - what exactly is missing?
Just trying to understand better.
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Asking questions is never wrong .. The source files contain drivers for the different phones, which is why they are all released seperately. Every device has different hardware, and the Desire has the closest resemblence to the hardware found in our HD2. This is also why many think the Desire source will really help in the development of Gingerbread ROM versions on the HD2 (like it did before on the previous Android releases, for example the camera).
What has been released on HTCdev.com (if I understand correctly), is the ROM upgrade itself, and not the actual kernel source. It may seem weird, because it is the only 'official' ROM upgrade that has been put up on HTCdev.com yet. They are not releasing it OTA (over the air) to all Desires, so they had to put it somewhere easy to be found by devs. This is why it has been put up on that page, which might have been confusing (because many would think it actually is the kernel source). As far as I can see, the package only contains the upgrade itself and 2 APK's. Usually it takes a while longer for this to become available, but per Linux license they are obliged to release it. Eventually.
I think there will be some interesting APK's in this ROM nevertheless.. We'll just have to wait until someone (one of the dev's) has explored the ROM thoroughly.

but it can't be to long from now till the sources are released.

BLAST3RR said:
Asking questions is never wrong .. The source files contain drivers for the different phones, which is why they are all released seperately. Every device has different hardware, and the Desire has the closest resemblence to the hardware found in our HD2. This is also why many think the Desire source will really help in the development of Gingerbread ROM versions on the HD2 (like it did before on the previous Android releases, for example the camera).
What has been released on HTCdev.com (if I understand correctly), is the ROM upgrade itself, and not the actual kernel source. It may seem weird, because it is the only 'official' ROM upgrade that has been put up on HTCdev.com yet. They are not releasing it OTA (over the air) to all Desires, so they had to put it somewhere easy to be found by devs. This is why it has been put up on that page, which might have been confusing (because many would think it actually is the kernel sournce). As far as I can see, the package only contains the upgrade itself and 2 APK's. Usually it takes a while longer for this to become available, but per Linux license they are obliged to release it. Eventually.
I think there will be some interesting APK's in this ROM nevertheless.. We'll just have to wait until someone (one of the dev's) has explored the ROM thoroughly.
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Excellente. Couldn't have said it better. The update's been out for almost a week. And from videos that I've seen, HTC did not upgrade the Sense version to 2.1 or 2.0 for the matter.
But of course all we need is the kernel source.
I'd also like to ask any of the devs:
Will a new kernel need to be compiled when the Desire gingerbread source is released? Hint hint: Rafpigna 2.1?
Also, I'm not familiar with the OC deal, but is it possible to overclock over 1.5 ghz on our HD2? I've seen 1.9 ghz on Desire Z/G2, and almost 1.8 ghz on the DHD.

BLAST3RR said:
Every device has different hardware, and the Desire has the closest resemblence to the hardware found in our HD2. This is also why many think the Desire source will really help in the development of Gingerbread ROM versions on the HD2 (like it did before on the previous Android releases, for example the camera).
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Does this mean that the the HD2 is on it's "last breath" with Android? Since the Desire isn't getting updated past Gingerbread...
What about Nexus One then? It is pretty much a redesigned Desire.
Or is this necessary for Sense ROMs only, and AOSP ROMs will still work?
Wouldn't it be possible to port something like Leedroid HD then? Since it's on the Desire and it works perfectly..

SilverHedgehog said:
Does this mean that the the HD2 is on it's "last breath" with Android? Since the Desire isn't getting updated past Gingerbread...
What about Nexus One then? It is pretty much a redesigned Desire.
Or is this necessary for Sense ROMs only, and AOSP ROMs will still work?
Wouldn't it be possible to port something like Leedroid HD then? Since it's on the Desire and it works perfectly..
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With Sense builds it is the end of the road I guess.. At least for any Android releases after Gingerbread. With the other builds I am not sure.. We have quite some driver source available, and with that we can probably simply compile them on the newer AOSP and non-sense ROMS. Sense is really a problem when it comes to source, because it is proprietary software written by HTC (no full source for Sense to simply cross-compile their libs). This is also why it is so hard to make decent Sense-builds whenever a new major Android release comes out. I could be wrong here though.
Let's wait for a dev to come over and shed some light ..

Grr... It's a bad day to own both the Desire and the HD2.

SilverHedgehog said:
Grr... It's a bad day to own both the Desire and the HD2.
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True.. But I for one never could have dreamed my HD2 to be top-notch more than a year later.. It certainly was one of my best buys ever. Imagine life when we'd still be stuck on that creepy WM6.5

BLAST3RR said:
True.. But I for one never could have dreamed my HD2 to be top-notch more than a year later.. It certainly was one of my best buys ever. Imagine life when we'd still be stuck on that creepy WM6.5
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Haha, that's true, I guess... I never even got to touch WM6.5 on my HD2, I bought it from Ebay with WP7. Tried it and didn't like it that much. So now I'm wondering which phone should be my primary, HD2 or Desire..

BLAST3RR said:
With Sense builds it is the end of the road I guess.. At least for any Android releases after Gingerbread. With the other builds I am not sure.. We have quite some driver source available, and with that we can probably simply compile them on the newer AOSP and non-sense ROMS. Sense is really a problem when it comes to source, because it is proprietary software written by HTC (no full source for Sense to simply cross-compile their libs). This is also why it is so hard to make decent Sense-builds whenever a new major Android release comes out. I could be wrong here though.
Let's wait for a dev to come over and shed some light ..
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I'm confused - why would the HD2 be on it's last legs?
People are still developing ROMs for my G1 - hell, there's even a honeycomb rom for my G1. Until people quit developing for the HD2, I guarantee it will be on par with other devices.

captainreynolds said:
I'm confused - why would the HD2 be on it's last legs?
People are still developing ROMs for my G1 - hell, there's even a honeycomb rom for my G1. Until people quit developing for the HD2, I guarantee it will be on par with other devices.
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It's just the Sense development that will be near to impossible to be perfect.. The rest will be continued as long as there are developers interested in our HD2.

captainreynolds said:
I'm confused - why would the HD2 be on it's last legs?
People are still developing ROMs for my G1 - hell, there's even a honeycomb rom for my G1. Until people quit developing for the HD2, I guarantee it will be on par with other devices.
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The hd2 development won't die, merely the Sense ROM development unless HTC make an ice cream sandwich update for the Desire (which is unlikely but possible as Google have stated ics has been designed to work on all Android devices to date). AOSP ROMs will probably continue as long as the device stays popular.
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I just went on this sure cause I got an email from htc saying the site launched. Now I know we need the kernel source, but I just noticed this in the kernel source page:
Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) Upgrade for HTC Desire
Or is that not enough?
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App

ICS or not ICS: that is the question

As in title, can we hope to see Ice Cream Sandwitch on our Tattoo sooner or later (maybe through CyanogenMod)? The Android team said that EVERY phone that had Gingerbread can have ICS: it's the same for the Tattoo or it's not doable due to the limited hardware (I also mean screen size)?

Ieracos said:
As in title, can we hope to see Ice Cream Sandwitch on our Tattoo sooner or later (maybe through CyanogenMod)? The Android team said that EVERY phone that had Gingerbread can have ICS: it's the same for the Tattoo or it's not doable due to the limited hardware (I also mean screen size)?
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i really hope we can see this happen
but for now i think it's to early to say. high end phones have no info yet, so we gotta be very patient ICS source is not out yet...
so for now, we are happy that we have 2.3.7 which isn't on many high end devices
this is a nice read
http://www.androidcentral.com/ice-cream-sandwich-what-happens-next

We have to wait until Google releases the source-code. After that, we can see if our device will be able to run ICS

I have actually given up the hope to upgrade my tattoo further than 2.3.7, because I don't feel that my phone can use the new features in 4.0 so what's the point ^^ GPU Accelerated UI and better dual core support isn't very much for the tattoo. The ride with my tattoo has however been really nice, and it was a really good way to get introduced to android Galaxy Nexus here I come?

windmark said:
I have actually given up the hope to upgrade my tattoo further than 2.3.7, because I don't feel that my phone can use the new features in 4.0 so what's the point ^^ GPU Accelerated UI and better dual core support isn't very much for the tattoo. The ride with my tattoo has however been really nice, and it was a really good way to get introduced to android Galaxy Nexus here I come?
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It's sad to say this, but I think you're right :')
Consider that the Nexus S is now almost the price I payed my tattoo 2 years ago: maybe it's time to switch in the near future...
In the meanwhile... ICS IS OUT IN THE WILD RIGHT NOW, GUYS!! So, let's see if there's some more juice to squeeze out from our little tattoo!

Ieracos said:
It's sad to say this, but I think you're right :')
Consider that the Nexus S is now almost the price I payed my tattoo 2 years ago: maybe it's time to switch in the near future...
In the meanwhile... ICS IS OUT IN THE WILD RIGHT NOW, GUYS!! So, let's see if there's some more juice to squeeze out from our little tattoo!
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i think there will be ICS to our tattoo!
let's just sit here and wait for something

ICS running on G1, there's still hope for Tattoo...

dakitj87 said:
ICS running on G1, there's still hope for Tattoo...
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Great news!
lets keep waiting

The alpha build look slow on the G1. Hopefully some tweaking could cause performance improvements.
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Hi Guys,
What do you think about this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1511495
Looks like there's a chance to get ICS in our Tattoos

I have checked it yesterday.
stelios97 has ported it to both X10 mini and wildfire,
so there is very good chance that we can have ics miui for tattoo.
But then I wonder, is there any dev still holding a Tattoo to help us.

Would be really nice to have MIUI on our tattoo.
It would even be better than having ICS!

.dot said:
Would be really nice to have MIUI on our tattoo.
It would even be better than having ICS!
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The other day I read that 2.3.7 source for MIUI was released
http://shrewdgeek.com/2012/02/04/xiaomi-makes-miui-gingerbread-2-3-7-open-source/
all we need is to get it compiled for ARM v6

Where are the developers for tattoo roms?
Arco? Kalimocho? rallapag? you've also done some ports, didn't you?
can someone port MIUI to our tattoo?
i don't know much about android rom development, but i think it wouldn't be much more work to port this miui rom than port some sense roms. a wildfire version is already available.
Its more some driver related things, i think
can someone try it please?

Hi .dot
You know, I am not a dev.
What ever I do, I am afraid it will be incomplete like my sense 2.3 rom port.
We need a real dev, unfortunately Arif-ali as well gave up working on Tattoo yesterday has indefinitely stopped android development.

ics
i really hope that there will be a new rom.cause i´m a little bored with my tattoo and the nfinity-rom. i hope that the dev will start to work on it..it would be fantastic!PLEASE

There you go guys,
A test version of CM9 is here for Tattoo
Checkout following post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23161100&postcount=42

rallapag said:
There you go guys,
A test version of CM9 is here for Tattoo
Checkout following post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23161100&postcount=42
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I could help to port MiuiV4 as i did on my u8150 as well and other upcoming
And regarding the post u linked..i looked into it and found that the touchscreen are not working as is still a pointer...i doesn't have the phone but this thread may help you in fixing it... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328515

Zackconsole said:
I could help to port MiuiV4 as i did on my u8150 as well and other upcoming
And regarding the post u linked..i looked into it and found that the touchscreen are not working as is still a pointer...i doesn't have the phone but this thread may help you in fixing it... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328515
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Maybe you should check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1530370

aiwenor said:
Maybe you should check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1530370
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Zackconsole is the dev, who is helping me fix most of the issues with my CM9 port
and we are working together on CM9 port and also on MIUI project.

Why don't we have full hardware acceleration yet in ICS?

Hello everyone,
Today, I was hoping that someone with knowledge could shed some light on this topic.
As from what I can see, the Desire, the Nexus One, the Desire HD and many other devices have already gotten full HWA with ICS.
So what is really making the HD2 fall behind? Is it because that all these device run Android natively and the HD2 doesn't ? Is it because our device is just too old? What is the main reason?
Thank you for reading, any sort of information is appreciated.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App

I took a look at those forums and it appears that they do not have full HWA much the same way we don't. I noticed that the ICS roms report that there is working HWA but there are still video and camera issues resulting from lack of full HWA.
I have yet to see any phone beyond the Nexus S have full HWA yet, add to that fact we do not have a true Android device so there is always the issue of proper drivers.

Marvlesz said:
Hello everyone,
Today, I was hoping that someone with knowledge could shed some light on this topic.
As from what I can see, the Desire, the Nexus One, the Desire HD and many other devices have already gotten full HWA with ICS.
So what is really making the HD2 fall behind? Is it because that all these device run Android natively and the HD2 doesn't ? Is it because our device is just too old? What is the main reason?
Thank you for reading, any sort of information is appreciated.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App
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Because you didnt download the source code , and make the necessary modifications to get it on the HD2 lol sarcasm

elesbb said:
Because you didnt download the source code , and make the necessary modifications to get it on the HD2 lol sarcasm
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I see what you did there haha

chrisrj28 said:
I took a look at those forums and it appears that they do not have full HWA much the same way we don't. I noticed that the ICS roms report that there is working HWA but there are still video and camera issues resulting from lack of full HWA.
I have yet to see any phone beyond the Nexus S have full HWA yet, add to that fact we do not have a true Android device so there is always the issue of proper drivers.
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Well, most of the ROMs I have seen say "HWA (real)" or "Full" which I assume isn't the same as ours? Sure, camera and video playback issues may be present.
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Because you didnt download the source code , and make the necessary modifications to get it on the HD2 lol sarcasm
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If I could do it myself, I wouldn't be posting this here .
But I'm neither a coder nor a developer, furthermore, I am only asking not, not "do it for me" ..
I am just hoping that it isn't (doesn't become) like the camcorder on sense builds.
Thanks for everyone.

The reason things like hwa take so long to be written for our phone is because it isn't a native android device. With all other devices you mentioned there is a stock android rom that comes shipped out of the box, with hwa and camera drivers written by the phone manufacturer. In that case, devs only need to tweak the code to make it work on their build.
With the HD2, devs need to write it from scratch or borrow code from another device and hack the s##t out of the code to make it compatible with the HD2.
PS. Is there still a problem with camcorder on sense rom's? I've not used sense since the haret days, but it works fine on miui (2. 3.7 of course)
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

And also don't forget that now we don't have the good old developers that started the whole project like dcordes,letama,markinus,dan1j3l,darkstone and other talented guys.cotulla is still with us but I think he likes more wp7 and not android

jwchips said:
The reason things like hwa take so long to be written for our phone is because it isn't a native android device. With all other devices you mentioned there is a stock android rom that comes shipped out of the box, with hwa and camera drivers written by the phone manufacturer. In that case, devs only need to tweak the code to make it work on their build.
With the HD2, devs need to write it from scratch or borrow code from another device and hack the s##t out of the code to make it compatible with the HD2.
PS. Is there still a problem with camcorder on sense rom's? I've not used sense since the haret days, but it works fine on miui (2. 3.7 of course)
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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In reply to your question about GB Sense, yes HWA has not yet been implemented yet, this is the last hurdle.