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The price continues to fall....

The price has now fallen to £300 in the UK. (Even the AMOLED version).
£306.60 AMOLED - http://www.prepaymania.co.uk/mobilephone/samsung-google-nexus-s-mobile-phone.html
It's not cheap enough to justify a £150 upgrade from my Desire just yet, but if it falls to £250 I think I will make the switch to a nexus s.
What do you all think?

williamj1 said:
The price has now fallen to £300 in the UK. (Even the AMOLED version).
£306.60 AMOLED - http://www.prepaymania.co.uk/mobilephone/samsung-google-nexus-s-mobile-phone.html
It's not cheap enough to justify a £150 upgrade from my Desire just yet, but if it falls to £250 I think I will make the switch to a nexus s.
What do you all think?
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Wills your as tight as a ducks ass and thats watertight;P lollol
Spend your dough, and enjoy your phone Im a student and even im no way near that tight, lollol
JD

williamj1 said:
The price has now fallen to £300 in the UK. (Even the AMOLED version).
£306.60 AMOLED - http://www.prepaymania.co.uk/mobilephone/samsung-google-nexus-s-mobile-phone.html
It's not cheap enough to justify a £150 upgrade from my Desire just yet, but if it falls to £250 I think I will make the switch to a nexus s.
What do you all think?
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And thats the s-lcd version, lollol
i9023 is slcd;P
JD

LOL! Trust you to come on and comment.
I want to buy it so bad, but I'm not going to at that price. I'd rather save for a SGS2 I was only alerting others to the deal...
And did you get yours safely and was it sealed?

williamj1 said:
LOL! Trust you to come on and comment.
I want to buy it so bad, but I'm not going to at that price. I'd rather save for a SGS2 I was only alerting others to the deal...
And did you get yours safely and was it sealed?
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Yeah it was sealed,
I sent my black one back and bought the pimped out white version by at&t, shipping as we speak... Check it out, its the one thats all white except for the screen, its the i9020a, its hot as all hell;P
But i generally dont worry about my bank balance too much, im off to do some mega shopping up town today as well, I love spending money;P
JD

JupiterDroid said:
Yeah it was sealed,
I sent my black one back and bought the pimped out white version by at&t, shipping as we speak... Check it out, its the one thats all white except for the screen, its the i9020a, its hot as all hell;P
But i generally dont worry about my bank balance too much, im off to do some mega shopping up town today as well, I love spending money;P
JD
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Lucky you! I just hope you appreciate it. Nothing gets on my nerves more when I see all these rich kids with the newest phones who are like "how do I turn it on, what's android?" ! I work my socks off to afford these things

williamj1 said:
Lucky you! I just hope you appreciate it. Nothing gets on my nerves more when I see all these rich kids with the newest phones who are like "how do I turn it on, what's android?" ! I work my socks off to afford these things
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Well im definitely not a rich kid as im studying at university for a degree in computer networking(BEng) and I will soon be a Chartered engineer(CEng) Also built themes for CM6 in my Nexus One days for the nightly ROM builds and built two custom ROM's for the HTC Desire so im not in either of the subsets you refer to;P Im just a guy that likes his phones and really like s enjoying the time he has with them.
Android and Cisco have been my world for the last year, and i have had the Desire, nexus one, desire z, desire hd, nexus x(9020t), sgsII, and now this pimped version of the nexus s
Picture of my new beast, I very much doubt if anyone in the UK has one of these darlings...
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JupiterDroid said:
Well im definitely not a rich kid as im studying at university for a degree in computer networking(BEng) and I will soon be a Chartered engineer(CEng) Also built themes for CM6 in my Nexus One days for the nightly ROM builds and built two custom ROM's for the HTC Desire so im not in either of the subsets you refer to;P Im just a guy that likes his phones and really like s enjoying the time he has with them.
Android and Cisco have been my world for the last year, and i have had the Desire, nexus one, desire z, desire hd, nexus x(9020t), sgsII, and now this pimped version of the nexus s
Picture of my new beast, I very much doubt if anyone in the UK has one of these darlings...
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Call me weird, but I like the black version more Never been much of a fan of white gadgets.

williamj1 said:
Call me weird, but I like the black version more Never been much of a fan of white gadgets.
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Funny enough me neither until i saw this, fantastic looking device, and as i had the all black before, this is a nice pimped up version for me SAMOLED looks beautiful with the black and white mixed And the added plesure of knowing this model is quite a rarity as not many have been produced so far, and they are not even available in the USA at the moment... So its gonna be rare as all hell here Will look even better when 3.1 drops, lollol
JD

JupiterDroid said:
Funny enough me neither until i saw this, fantastic looking device, and as i had the all black before, this is a nice pimped up version for me SAMOLED looks beautiful with the black and white mixed And the added plesure of knowing this model is quite a rarity as not many have been produced so far, and they are not even available in the USA at the moment... So its gonna be rare as all hell here Will look even better when 3.1 drops, lollol
JD
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If.... 3.1 drops
I have to stop browsing this forum. It is making me want a nexus s sooooooooo bad. But my Desire is really awesome. It is not worth the £150 just for internal memory, better games and a front facing camera. If it falls to £250 I'm in like I say. Otherwise I save for something better.

Man thats cheap, just buy it already

williamj1 said:
If.... 3.1 drops
I have to stop browsing this forum. It is making me want a nexus s sooooooooo bad. But my Desire is really awesome. It is not worth the £150 just for internal memory, better games and a front facing camera. If it falls to £250 I'm in like I say. Otherwise I save for something better.
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The Nexus S is googles developer device now, so it will drop, at the I/O everything new was shown on a Nexus S so it will definitely drop for the NS. The question mark is how long will you have to wait for 3.1 on the SGSII. Samsung dont have a good reputation with upgrading their devices to the next OS. SGS1 still has not got official gingerbread, lollol
As a computer user, networker, builder and tentative app creator, the Nexus S for me is the best phone going. And the instant and constant updates is what makes a google phone special.
Take it from a guy that has been around android for a very long time now, There are really two phones at the moment to choose from, the SGSII and the NS, i would not let money affect your decision, let what you want out of the phones direct your decision to one or the other
good luck wills,
JD

Linus82 said:
Man thats cheap, just buy it already
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lollollol,
I have seen many guys like wills on this forum before, and they cant seem to choose between the money aspect and enjoyment..,
I work on a different set of criterion, i work on the aspect that if its class, and i like it, i buy it, and enjoy it
So my advice to you wills is buy either of these beasts and enjoy it, dont let money be a factor. If money is a factor then you should not be buying high end phones because it will affect your judgement that should be based on quality
wow, that was deep
JD

Lol. It's not that.
Money is a factor to an extent. I do not have the money to just go out and buy a SGS2 new today for £500, or else I would do so.
I have to save my money before I can afford such devices. I don't chop and change between devices, I keep them for at least a year. So if I buy a nexus s now, I would be keeping it for a year. In a year, it will be forgotten and out of date. The SGS2 will not.
In a perfect world, I would buy a Nexus S now and keep it for 6 months, sell it and then buy something dual core / the nexus 3. But I cannot afford to do that.
I cannot justify buying a nexus s. I'd be spending £300 for hardly any new features. If I didn't have a desire, this would be a steal of a deal. But £150 is a lot for minor things.
I'm not even making any sense to me now. That is a load of crap ^. Simple - I want one. But I can't bring myself to spend the money I have saved on such little changes.

williamj1 said:
Lol. It's not that.
Money is a factor to an extent. I do not have the money to just go out and buy a SGS2 new today for £500, or else I would do so.
I have to save my money before I can afford such devices. I don't chop and change between devices, I keep them for at least a year. So if I buy a nexus s now, I would be keeping it for a year. In a year, it will be forgotten and out of date. The SGS2 will not.
In a perfect world, I would buy a Nexus S now and keep it for 6 months, sell it and then buy something dual core / the nexus 3. But I cannot afford to do that.
I cannot justify buying a nexus s. I'd be spending £300 for hardly any new features. If I didn't have a desire, this would be a steal of a deal. But £150 is a lot for minor things.
I'm not even making any sense to me now. That is a load of crap ^. Simple - I want one. But I can't bring myself to spend the money I have saved on such little changes.
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You will be waiting forever then mate,
Wait for the SGS3 coming out in september/november time with a 2ghz dual core that may have 3.1 then, and you can say to yourself, i am at the bleeding edge
JD

JupiterDroid said:
You will be waiting forever then mate,
Wait for the SGS3 coming out in september/november time with a 2ghz dual core that may have 3.1 then, and you can say to yourself, i am at the bleeding edge
JD
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I will see. I might get some extra work in the next 1/2 months, so I might treat myself (especially if it falls lower). But then again, I might get even more money and treat myself to a nice new SGS2. It lacks all the dev community and custom roms etc though That could change though.

williamj1 said:
I will see. I might get some extra work in the next 1/2 months, so I might treat myself (especially if it falls lower). But then again, I might get even more money and treat myself to a nice new SGS2. It lacks all the dev community and custom roms etc though That could change though.
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The dev community is buzzing over there, lots of people have bought it... The only problem is Samsung only give maybe 70 percent of their source code away, the other 30 percent is there own drivers so they dont have to make that public as per the GPL.
The good thing about the Nexus S is that its completly open and you will be able to run practically anything on it. Any branded Samsung device will always be better with stock roms because it has all the codecs and stuff that make it special..
I liked the SGSII, but for all its beauty I just could not get used to various things with it...
Love CM too, and that will never happen on the SGSII, and if it does it will be a retarded version due to lack of codecs and high level video recording

I appreciate your enthusiasm. But I am standing my ground. I am not paying £150 for such small improvements. If it falls to £250, I will buy it. Otherwise, I save.
(Unless I get lots of money or win the lottery).

williamj1 said:
I appreciate your enthusiasm. But I am standing my ground. I am not paying £150 for such small improvements. If it falls to £250, I will buy it. Otherwise, I save.
(Unless I get lots of money or win the lottery).
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lol,
wait a few weeks and your dreams may come true
There are NS sealed on ebay for 250 quid, buy one of them
JD

JupiterDroid said:
lol,
wait a few weeks and your dreams may come true
There are NS sealed on ebay for 250 quid, buy one of them
JD
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Find me a link. Legit sellers?

Should I wait for the Nexus 5?

I'm kinda on the verge of buying a Galaxy S4 or HTC ONE...
I kinda feel like our N4 is so basic...yeah it receives new updates from Google but...but just flashing gabillions of ROMS and I can't find the right one. kinda frustrating. I wish there is a tread or poll for BEST ROMS & KERNELs.

Please do us a favor, buy some tw crap or sense crap and leave us alone
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Underground_XI said:
Please do us a favor, buy some tw crap or sense crap and leave us alone
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HTC One is far from crap. It has Sense, but other than that the phone is the best phone out right now hands down. Specs and build quality.
Edit: If you have the money I would get The One. Nexus 4 is still a great phone for the price and the software will always be up to date via AOSP.

You're the only person that can answer that question. It all depends on your needs, how long your willing to wait, how important having stock Android is to you, etc.
The only thing I would say about your post is that there is nothing basic about the N4. It's frankly a great phone at a very good price. If having the highest specced phone you can buy (regardless of price) is more important to you than having stock Android then the S4 or the HTC One is your go. If you want stock Android, then just decide if you want the N4 or if your willing to wait later in the year for it's successor (which hasn't even been announced yet).

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Get the N4 and be satisfied, the N5 (if history repeats itself) won't be available to the masses until March 2014... Then you can decide if you want to keep with the nexus line after that (you will)

BaNkS said:
HTC One is far from crap. It has Sense, but other than that the phone is the best phone out right now hands down. Specs and build quality.
Edit: If you have the money I would get The One. Nexus 4 is still a great phone for the price and the software will always be up to date via AOSP.
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Have you had the chance to use it?
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mr2324jgf said:
Get the N4 and be satisfied, the N5 (if history repeats itself) won't be available to the masses until March 2014... Then you can decide if you want to keep with the nexus line after that (you will)
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I already have the N4... -_-" ,. ummm I didn't know the N5 will be released till 2014. So yeah...thanks for the info. I'm gonna try the S4 or ONe. lol

Underground_XI said:
Have you had the chance to use it?
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Well I played with one, and I know people who have it. They all pretty much thought the same thing. The build quality is by far the best I have ever held. The screen is gorgeous. It has Sense like I said, but a lot of well known devs are getting it/already have it and AOSP is already on it(more coming). Some of the AOSP Roms are a little buggy for it since it's not an official phone to put AOSP on it, but that is to to be expected at first for an OEM phone.

BaNkS said:
HTC One is far from crap. It has Sense, but other than that the phone is the best phone out right now hands down. Specs and build quality.
Edit: If you have the money I would get The One. Nexus 4 is still a great phone for the price and the software will always be up to date via AOSP.
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yup I have the money hehehe. Currently HTC has only the dev. 64GB edition at $649 vs, $574 32GB (out of stock until 05/13). I like the S4 too with lots of features..lol.

Underground_XI said:
Please do us a favor, buy some tw crap or sense crap and leave us alone
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I can't decide which is which ...rofl.

MrWulf said:
You're the only person that can answer that question. It all depends on your needs, how long your willing to wait, how important having stock Android is to you, etc.
The only thing I would say about your post is that there is nothing basic about the N4. It's frankly a great phone at a very good price. If having the highest specced phone you can buy (regardless of price) is more important to you than having stock Android then the S4 or the HTC One is your go. If you want stock Android, then just decide if you want the N4 or if your willing to wait later in the year for it's successor (which hasn't even been announced yet).
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Thank's,. Yeah I think i'm getting either of one...I just can;t decide. I have the N4 already and I can't choose which ROM's is the best?...except for P.A that i like. I wish they will create a poll for which is best N4 ROM's...

hatyrei said:
yup I have the money hehehe. Currently HTC has only the dev. 64GB edition at $649 vs, $574 32GB (out of stock until 05/13). I like the S4 too with lots of features..lol.
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Lol I will never buy another Samsung device. It can be a beast spec wise, but the build quality of their phones is garbage. They all feel like cheap kid's toys being made mostly of plastic and the likes.

BaNkS said:
Lol I will never buy another Samsung device. It can be a beast spec wise, but the build quality of their phones is garbage. They all feel like cheap kid's toys being made mostly of plastic and the likes.
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I really don't have any problems with plastic phones...as long as the parts are easily replaceable ,. I'm kinda scared of getting HTC ONE and having scratches on it's aluminum body like the iphone or ipod. I have the bumper case for my N4 and no visible scratches still

hatyrei said:
I'm kinda on the verge of buying a Galaxy S4 or HTC ONE...
I kinda feel like our N4 is so basic...yeah it receives new updates from Google but...but just flashing gabillions of ROMS and I can't find the right one. kinda frustrating. I wish there is a tread or poll for BEST ROMS & KERNELs.
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Ok.. Now that I'm in the right thread.
Firstly Op there is a thread specifically for questions like this. "Google Nexus 4 vs any other phone"
Secondly. This phone is far from basic. No, it isn't bleeding edge tech but people don't buy Nexus devices for spec bragging. No Nexus phone has ever really been a leader in bleeding edge specs. What you get is bleeding edge development, updates and one of the best shifting communities on xda for a far above average piece of hardware. Usually once you get a Nexus device you are married to the brand.
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hatyrei said:
I really don't have any problems with plastic phones...as long as the parts are easily replaceable ,. I'm kinda scared of getting HTC ONE and having scratches on it;s aluminum body like the iphone or ipod. I have the bumper case for my N4 and no visible scratches still
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I would rather have an aluminum body phone that a plastic one. lol. If I am going to pay that much for a phone it better feel great in the hands. Then again I take care of my phones and I usually don't damage then or drop them etc.

styckx said:
Ok.. Now that I'm in the right thread.
Firstly Op there is a thread specifically for questions like this. "Google Nexus 4 vs any other phone"
Secondly. This phone is far from basic. No, it isn't bleeding edge tech but people don't buy Nexus devices for spec bragging. No Nexus phone has ever really been a leader in bleeding edge specs. What you get is bleeding edge development, updates and one of the best shifting communities on xda for a far above average piece of hardware. Usually once you get a Nexus device you are married to the brand.
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What i mean....is that our N4 doesn't have many standout features like the S4 or HTC ONE. Actually i just bought the N4 for photoshpers,getting new updates and it's price for unlocked is unparalleled . I just can't t find a Best ROM for our N4. Maybe some1 can start a POLL thread that shows...ranking of each ROM?. hehehe, I'm asking too much; anyways thanks for the insight.

BaNkS said:
Lol I will never buy another Samsung device. It can be a beast spec wise, but the build quality of their phones is garbage. They all feel like cheap kid's toys being made mostly of plastic and the likes.
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To me the s4 felt better quality than the htc one actually. Htc one had awful screen design. S4 cheap plastic did not feel that cheap. As it regards aosp roms, whoever devs work for htc phones, there will always be some bugs+why would one that gets a device with amazing camera want to flash aosp on it.
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hatyrei said:
What i mean....is that our N4 doesn't have many standout features like the S4 or HTC ONE. Actually i just bought the N4 for photoshpers,getting new updates and it's price for unlocked is unparalleled . I just can't t find a Best ROM for our N4. Maybe some1 can start a POLL thread that shows...ranking of each ROM?. hehehe, I'm asking too much; anyways thanks for the insight.
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No such thing as a best ROM. What exactly are you expecting out of a ROM? You have some of the best developers on xda producing for this phone. If you can't find anything to use here. You ain't finding it anywhere
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No such thing as a best ROM. What exactly are you expecting out of a ROM? You have some of the best developers on xda producing for this phone. If you can't find anything to use here. You ain't finding it anywhere
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I want an ROM that can incorporate new features from S4 , HTC and etc... so I don't have to buy a new one. lol , I was imagining before that our N4 is like a blank canvas that u can put anything on it...except for the hardware limitations. The only thing i like for now is P.A but i get bored with it. Also there are so many ROMS for our N4 , i'm not saying it's bad. But having a poll thread can separate the good one's from not so good ones... right>? Sorry for being so demanding. And thank you devs...for great FREE support.

hatyrei said:
I want an ROM that can incorporate new features from S4 , HTC and etc... so I don't have to buy a new one. lol , I was imagining before that our N4 is like a blank canvas that u can put anything on it...except for the hardware limitations. The only thing i like for now is P.A but i get bored with it. Also there are so many ROMS for our N4 , i'm not saying it's bad. But having a poll thread can separate the good one's from not so good ones... right>? Sorry for being so demanding. And thank you devs...for great FREE support.
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I started such thread people got butthurt and reported it so mods closed it. Truth about nexus is that you have high quantity and high quality of the exact same thing. Nexus fans hate to admit it but that is the truth. You have 100 roms all great quality and all have the exact same features+layout. There are no ported features there are no ported rom. Htc or sammy devices have tw/sense+ aosp working. Tw/sense come with plwnty of additional features and if hou get bored from time to time you jist flash an aosp rom. While here you only have aosp, which gets boring after a while.
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Will there be a 2013 version of Nexus 10 ??

Will there be a 2013 version of Nexus 10.. I am planning to buy one.. Should i buy one or wait for a new version ???

New one coming out soon, I would wait
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No one knows for sure if there will be another 10" tablet released soon. Since Android 4.4 was announced without a new nexus 10 I'd say it's unlikely. .. but I could be wrong. You might consider getting a used one, probably lots of people selling because they are hoping for a new model, so you can probably get a good price.
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pmanian said:
Will there be a 2013 version of Nexus 10.. I am planning to buy one.. Should i buy one or wait for a new version ???
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The 16 Gb version has been sold out forever. The 32 is still there, but with a catch. The entire page for the current Nexus 10 is still the old format with the different versions down below. The Nexus 5 and 7 have been updated to the new page version with quick swap buttons up top next to the picture. So yes, the end of the current Nexus 10 is close. Whether or not they will be replacing it or simply getting rid of the 10 inch line is the question. I see no convincing reason for them to keep the Nexus 10 with the old page style (even if they were keeping it in production). It looks and feels different from the N5 and N7 pages and already feels outdated.
Conclusion? It will be deleted soon. Outcome? Either a new N10, or complete abandonment. Given that Google was so adamant about making tablet optimized apps available in the play store, them scrapping the flagship designed for developers to do just that and not following up would be incredibly stupid. There's going to be another one, and probably soon. We just have to wait.

I'm starting to doubt they will release a new N10 this year, I think they'll team up with Samsung again next year and release the new N10 coupled with a Exynos 6 64bit processor while releasing the first 64 bit iteration of Android somewhere in the first half of the year, they may even wait until the next N7 event to release both.

I was really hoping that they would release the new Nexus 10 this year and all of the leaks for an Asus made N10 pointed in that direction too. I had also at least hoped for a half update, like for the N7, adding LTE or more memory, but I guess Google is saving the update for next year.

N10 current edition is not likely to be discontinued by Google. You still see support ongoing for much older Nexus products, so I'm certain no worries there.
As to a new model? No "official" communications from Google ever said one would be released this year. "Everything" that has led you to this conclusion is a combination of media hype and sources with "unconfirmed" details. The displays have all been "renders" that are also not provided by Google.
Either buy a current model or wait for who knows what.
But I'm certain that there is no 2013 edition.

SeaFractor said:
N10 current edition is not likely to be discontinued by Google. You still see support ongoing for much older Nexus products, so I'm certain no worries there.
As to a new model? No "official" communications from Google ever said one would be released this year. "Everything" that has led you to this conclusion is a combination of media hype and sources with "unconfirmed" details. The displays have all been "renders" that are also not provided by Google.
Either buy a current model or wait for who knows what.
But I'm certain that there is no 2013 edition.
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I don't know if I'd go that far. Just because we don't have anything at this point doesn't mean it won't be released in the next month and a half.

Considering Google didn't release a new Nexus 10 with the Nexus 5 and as we have had very few leaks, I think it's more likely now that we'll see a new Nexus 10 when the next Nexus 7 is released around June. I definitely don't think they'll release a new one in the coming weeks.
Their strategy with the Nexus 5 was to create media hype - by deliberately leaking the N5 in the kitkat video and play store they got people talking about it with incredibly little effort and cost. This was very clever and meant people were really excited and looking forward to the release. With nothing at all like this for a new Nexus 10, I doubt they're at all close to a release.

timfimjim said:
Considering Google didn't release a new Nexus 10 with the Nexus 5 and as we have had very few leaks, I think it's more likely now that we'll see a new Nexus 10 when the next Nexus 7 is released around June. I definitely don't think they'll release a new one in the coming weeks.
Their strategy with the Nexus 5 was to create media hype - by deliberately leaking the N5 in the kitkat video and play store they got people talking about it with incredibly little effort and cost. This was very clever and meant people were really excited and looking forward to the release. With nothing at all like this for a new Nexus 10, I doubt they're at all close to a release.
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They could leak it in the next few days and release it by Black Friday. I'm not saying it's likely, but it's possible. LET ME DREAM.

crazygameofpoker said:
They could leak it in the next few days and release it by Black Friday. I'm not saying it's likely, but it's possible. LET ME DREAM.
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With the ridiculous way they released the N5 (zero information before release) and their stuff up with youtube and their insistence on making google + happen, I am losing faith in google.
But there just isn't any 10 inch alternative. The only one I'd consider is the samsung tab 10.1 2013 but it's crammed full of ****ty samsung software..

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With the ridiculous way they released the N5 (zero information before release) and their stuff up with youtube and their insistence on making google + happen, I am losing faith in google.
But there just isn't any 10 inch alternative. The only one I'd consider is the samsung tab 10.1 2013 but it's crammed full of ****ty samsung software..
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You mean you don't want to pay $150 more for sh***y software that drags the rest of the operating system down? Heresy!

andyroo54 said:
With the ridiculous way they released the N5 (zero information before release) and their stuff up with youtube and their insistence on making google + happen, I am losing faith in google.
But there just isn't any 10 inch alternative. The only one I'd consider is the samsung tab 10.1 2013 but it's crammed full of ****ty samsung software..
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Uh they are not MAKING you have a G+ account...if you have a Gmail address you have a G+ account...DONE. The only thing that's changing is Youtube will now show your profile picture if you have one set. Get over it dude. I am sure you used your Gmail account to comment on Youtube anyway.
Also the people holding onto the glimmer of hope that there will be a 2013 N10 need to just let go. Google already announced a new N7 and an N5. With only a month and a half left in the year I really don't see them announcing an N10. There has been NOTHING from them at all hinting to this and everything, at this point, is just being pulled from people's asses. If they were to release a new one I would bet my bottom dollar that they would have done it with the N5. Just stop guys...just stop.

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Uh they are not MAKING you have a G+ account...if you have a Gmail address you have a G+ account...DONE. The only thing that's changing is Youtube will now show your profile picture if you have one set. Get over it dude. I am sure you used your Gmail account to comment on Youtube anyway.
Also the people holding onto the glimmer of hope that there will be a 2013 N10 need to just let go. Google already announced a new N7 and an N5. With only a month and a half left in the year I really don't see them announcing an N10. There has been NOTHING from them at all hinting to this and everything, at this point, is just being pulled from people's asses. If they were to release a new one I would bet my bottom dollar that they would have done it with the N5. Just stop guys...just stop.
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Yeah I'm pretty much resolved to the fact they are letting the N10 slide for this year..
But last night I was using my HP touchpad with cyangenmod and I thought, this is really the perfect 10 inch android tablet for me anyway, I don't even NEED a new tablet.
1)It's tough as nails, seriously, I have dropped this tablet from about 1m height every night when I go to sleep. It usually lands on the screen. For about two years. Nothing wrong with it, not even a scratch.
2) wireless charging. It's amazing. Seriously. Those who have never had a device that wireless charges, do not know what I'm talking about.
3) It's ten inches
4)it's powerful enough to run cyangenmod very smoothly, plays back HD movies, and browses the web flawlessly. The only draw back is 1gb of ram but it's rare I use it all up. Sometimes in WEB OS I do.
5) It has webOS. I use webOS 90% of the time, which is when I'm just browsing. It just does it better than android, hands down.
6)for the other 10% of the time I need to use an app or watch a movie, I can switch to cyangenmod.
So in summary, I don't care there is no new N10 this year, because I already have a tablet that has/does everything I want!

I'm waiting for a refresh of the Nexus 10, so I can sell/trade my original one and buy it. Any idea when it'll come out?

Crazysah said:
I'm waiting for a refresh of the Nexus 10, so I can sell/trade my original one and buy it. Any idea when it'll come out?
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This post is a joke, right?

I got to agree that we will not see a new Nexus 10 this year.
The N10 was never a big seller, it is priced more towards the high end unlike the N4, N5, and N7 which are priced to SELL.
Not to mention if the second gen N10 was real, we would have seen a credible leak by now, unless this is Google's best kept hardware secret ever.

Too much negativity in this thread. We all know nothing about the proposed new Nexus 10... nothing at all. If you tell yourself otherwise you're fooling yourself.
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Well I agree with this part. Guys, please remember to respect other members

This leads me to believe that the new Nexus tablet will be made by LG and based on the G Pad 8.3. Personally, I'd like 9" or 10", but I would buy this one.

sad news :(

htc won't update the original htc one m7 to future android versions :/
http://www.gsmarena.com/original_htc_one_wont_get_android_51_or_future_versions-news-11610.php
i just hope our friendly and hard working devs keep porting firmwares from the m8 and m9 though

aaki_rocker said:
htc won't update the original htc one m7 to future android versions :/
http://www.gsmarena.com/original_htc_one_wont_get_android_51_or_future_versions-news-11610.php
i just hope our friendly and hard working devs keep porting firmwares from the m8 and m9 though
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Not really surprising as the device is already almost 2 years old. At least the GPE will get 5.1. But even the nexus has an EOL where it stops getting updates. So one can not expect a device to get updates for more then a year.

Love how people just except two years as being an outdated phone what do new phones do that the old phone dont do probably not a lot but people being people have got to have the latest and greatest. ?
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cokey77 said:
Love how people just except two years as being an outdated phone what do new phones do that the old phone dont do probably not a lot but people being people have got to have the latest and greatest. ?
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Not in the least. I plan on holding on to this for at least a few more years myself. It does what I need it to so no real reason to change, Other then the camera of course.
Its just we can not expect OEM to keep updating devices they dont even make anymore.

aaki_rocker said:
htc won't update the original htc one m7 to future android versions :/
http://www.gsmarena.com/original_htc_one_wont_get_android_51_or_future_versions-news-11610.php
i just hope our friendly and hard working devs keep porting firmwares from the m8 and m9 though
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We've had a good run though. From Android 4.1.2 > 4.2.2 > 4.3 > 4.4 > 4.4.2 > 4.4.3 > 5.0.2 > 5.1, I think only Apple has had longer support than our M7.

I dont care about it
I want sell my m7 for buy OPO
Don't worry about it
M7 have great Devs and Lots of custom rom :good:

A very Good Decision by HTC ( for digging their grave)
First M9 (just m8+)
Now ridiculous update decision only m7 GPE like Sense m7 is not their main device GPE was
look for GPE sale its not comparable to sense
we don't need buggy Lollipop at least give us bug free edition
or let us stay 4.4.3 which is best
who is making these decision ?
I think within couple of years HTC will be in grave digged by themselves

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A very Good Decision by HTC ( for digging their grave)
First M9 (just m8+)
Now ridiculous update decision only m7 GPE like Sense m7 is not their main device GPE was
look for GPE sale its not comparable to sense
we don't need buggy Lollipop at least give us bug free edition
or let us stay 4.4.3 which is best
who is making these decision ?
I think within couple of years HTC will be in grave digged by themselves
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You do know HTC has been in the smartphone business for longer then any other right? They were making smartphones when most people were still getting their first flip phone.
If you want a bug free rom I would avoid lollipop all together.
If you want to stay on 4.4.3 then stay there. No one is making you update.
The gpe version is just far easier to update and they had to push a fix update anyway for the hardware keys. So it's not a surprise.

zelendel said:
You do know HTC has been in the smartphone business for longer then any other right? They were making smartphones when most people were still getting their first flip phone.
If you want a bug free rom I would avoid lollipop all together.
If you want to stay on 4.4.3 then stay there. No one is making you update.
The gpe version is just far easier to update and they had to push a fix update anyway for the hardware keys. So it's not a surprise.
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I'm using HTC since HTC p3400 Windows still not purchased smartphone other than HTC YES!! REALLY!! 7 or 8th HTC in row
but these decision letting them down as you know their sales record
I just want bug free who don't unlock Bootloader & have custom rom they stuck with bad version and next they away from HTC
I'm hopefully looking for m10
but I fear like at time of m13/14 HTC will be sold to other phone maker like MOTO
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I'm using HTC since HTC p3400 Windows still not purchased smartphone other than HTC YES!! REALLY!! 7 or 8th HTC in row
but these decision letting them down as you know their sales record
I just want bug free who don't unlock Bootloader & have custom rom they stuck with bad version and next they away from HTC
I'm hopefully looking for m10
but I fear like at time of m13/14 HTC will be sold to other phone maker like MOTO
Your previous profile was better than current
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Every company goes through small dips in sales and with the influx of users that are less focused on usage and more on gimmics the more their sales will hurt. The M9 is not a bad device. I think people need to realize that we are soon coming on a platoue of of ground breaking features built into a phone. They have not let anyone down by not updating it to 5.1. Ill be honest if you want a completely bug free rom then android may not be for you. Android will always have bugs, it is the nature of the beast with open source software. Even 5.1 is suffering from random reboots, ram issues, wifi issues, connectivity issues and so on. I dont see HTC selling out any time soon. No device is perfect to be honest. People are complaining about the m9 because it looks like the rest of the M series. Well they just did the wisest thing in that if it isnt broken then dont fix it. The main complaints with the m7 and m8 was the camera so they worked on it an improved it or so they say.
To me it really doesnt matter, as Sense has been a joke ever sense they moved away from Touchflow on WM. Custom roms will always be needed with android. That is one of the draws to it. People who dont want to mess with their device buy Iphones. Which is not a bad thing, they just have more important things to do then mess with their phones. Cant really blame them there.
As for my avatar. People starting coping it so I changed it. Kinda like all the themes for lollipop. They all look the same and that is not my style.

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Every company goes through small dips in sales and with the influx of users that are less focused on usage and more on gimmics the more their sales will hurt. The M9 is not a bad device. I think people need to realize that we are soon coming on a platoue of of ground breaking features built into a phone. They have not let anyone down by not updating it to 5.1. Ill be honest if you want a completely bug free rom then android may not be for you. Android will always have bugs, it is the nature of the beast with open source software. Even 5.1 is suffering from random reboots, ram issues, wifi issues, connectivity issues and so on. I dont see HTC selling out any time soon. No device is perfect to be honest. People are complaining about the m9 because it looks like the rest of the M series. Well they just did the wisest thing in that if it isnt broken then dont fix it. The main complaints with the m7 and m8 was the camera so they worked on it an improved it or so they say.
To me it really doesnt matter, as Sense has been a joke ever sense they moved away from Touchflow on WM. Custom roms will always be needed with android. That is one of the draws to it. People who dont want to mess with their device buy Iphones. Which is not a bad thing, they just have more important things to do then mess with their phones. Cant really blame them there.
As for my avatar. People starting coping it so I changed it. Kinda like all the themes for lollipop. They all look the same and that is not my style.
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Very mature
I feels plateau Arrive since 2GB RAM and 1080p come to market only battery is remained last thing to update
100% bug free im not talking but almost bug free that's we need
but I don't get why Google is in hurry to launch New version as I remember ICS KK were much stable than why hurry ?
iPhone is not solution for developing counties "Android" is "The solution"
Google knows it
HTC knows it but they don't following right strategy
In India last 3-4 months they launched a long list of Desire series in much combination but I can't suggest a single phone to my friends (my approx. every classmate asks me before buying a new phone) and I feels sorry for HTC
in some they don't have compatible processor or battery (they copy Samsung strategy Big screen but not implemented with big battery or at good price
companies like Xiaomi, Oneplus, Micromax will hit hard next time)
m9 (for HTC you are not apple so you cant sell your phone just correcting them ) you ever need fresh as you done in past Sensation DesireHD m7 are examples
They don't even have right flagship combination
Remember Butterfly S launched with 3300 mAh now m9 plus spec coming with 2900 mAh reverse gear !!

yatindroid said:
Very mature
I feels plateau Arrive since 2GB RAM and 1080p come to market only battery is remained last thing to update
100% bug free im not talking but almost bug free that's we need
but I don't get why Google is in hurry to launch New version as I remember ICS KK were much stable than why hurry ?
iPhone is not solution for developing counties "Android" is "The solution"
Google knows it
HTC knows it but they don't following right strategy
In India last 3-4 months they launched a long list of Desire series in much combination but I can't suggest a single phone to my friends (my approx. every classmate asks me before buying a new phone) and I feels sorry for HTC
in some they don't have compatible processor or battery (they copy Samsung strategy Big screen but not implemented with big battery or at good price
companies like Xiaomi, Oneplus, Micromax will hit hard next time)
m9 (for HTC you are not apple so you cant sell your phone just correcting them ) you ever need fresh as you done in past Sensation DesireHD m7 are examples
They don't even have right flagship combination
Remember Butterfly S launched with 3300 mAh now m9 plus spec coming with 2900 mAh reverse gear !!
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While I understand it may not be ideal for developing countries like India, China and such. You say apple is not the solution and android is and I am guessing you are talking on a price point. It all comes down to hardware at that point. Yes you can get a cheap android device but as you pointed out they really are not that great. Xiaomi will not even be a contender until they change MIUI, to many lawsuites heading their way, and once you remove all of their services the price will increase. Oppo and Opo might get a good following soon and maybe make it to the big time. We can only wait and see. Their last device was a flop. Micromax is not even an option as all they do is import and rebrand China based devices.
Cant talk about the butterfly S. It was never released here so I have not even seen it.
I dont see why everyone is so focused on the battery. I can get almost 2 days with my m7. No I dont play games on it, nor do I do social networking with it. It is a tool I use and then put it down when I am done. I can easily go for 6 hours without even looking at my phone.
In the end it is as with all electronic devices. You get what you pay for. If people what cheap devices then they have to be willing to live with sub-flagship hardware.
I wont even get into samsung. They have made a name off of gimmics.

yatindroid said:
Remember Butterfly S launched with 3300 mAh now m9 plus spec coming with 2900 mAh reverse gear !!
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Can you imagine the M9 with a 3300 mAh battery when consumers are crying about this phone being 0.3mm thicker than the M8? :laugh: They would have to add an extra 0.1mm and it would be catastrophic (sarcasm)

alray said:
Can you imagine the M9 with a 3300 mAh battery when consumers are crying about this phone being 0.3mm thicker than the M8? :laugh: They would have to add an extra 0.1mm and it would be catastrophic (sarcasm)
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No I don't meant for m9 it was for m9 plus or any 5.5" screen like 820 series

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No I don't meant for m9 it was for m9 plus or any 5.5" screen like 820 series
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There might be another update...

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There might be another update...
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yes a Sensible decision
I don't hope Sense 7 since day it announced but 5.1 is really necessary

alray said:
There might be another update...
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See While I doubt most in the US will see this update, I am glad It will make some happy. At least until they get the update lol.
Be warned that the 5.1 update is just as buggy as 5.0 is.

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Be warned that the 5.1 update is just as buggy as 5.0 is.
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Yeah I know, my gf updated her Nexus 5 this week and its horrible. Phone randomly restarts when in use and some other minor issues that were not present in 5.0.1 (like contacts not being recognized in SMS).
I am glad It will make some happy. At least until they get the update lol.
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Exactly what I said to another guy in the update thread yesterday, there will always be bugs so don't expect a bug-free final version. Even if they push 5.1, there will still be ppl complaining about no 5.1.1 (or whatever the next update will be) to fix what is broken is 5.1.

Never had any bugs in KitKat apart from noise cancelling mic one but this update has been crap to say the least even for nexus 7 which I downgraded straightaway. Its a shame its so buggy but due a new phone and can't wait to get rid of this phone now I might even jump ship to windows or dare say it ios because it seems lollipop in general is buggy no matter what phone you have. I know the other os are full of bugs as well but I think they correct a lot of them as well I could be wrong but definitely think change is in the air just hope I make the right choice????
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Lg you are a shame !!!!!

I am pissed off by information that LG G4, the 2015 FLAGSHIP DEVICE from lg is not going to get nougat update .... THIS IS SOME JOKE and lg need to get their s*it together ... What the fu*k LG ???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!???
You put your money to software development for some crappy devices (that apparently will have nougat) of yours that are sh*t and you can not update one of the best devices out there .. even now the G4 is more than better device for most of consumers and IT IS A SHAME to leave behind some of the best phones of the 2015.
There is no explanation for this type of behavior and i will never buy LG .. never again .. fu*k that sh*t ...
Such a beautifull and powerfull phones and such a irresponsibility ...

I suggest voicing your opinon on LGs Twitter feed. They care more there.

klurrant said:
I suggest voicing your opinon on LGs Twitter feed. They care more there.
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Then tell me what they answered. Thanks.

if its true no more LG. we should all let them know in their tweeter account.

Lg doesnt care about your opinion. Never did never will.
When will you guys figure that out. They dont want to support the g4. They want you to upgrade. Its the way of the world. You. Me. Us. Were such a small part of lgs sales. They dont care. They dont need to care. Theyre mobile division is so small compared to theyre tv and apliance divisions. So ure not gonna buy another lg u say. Thats fine by them. Some one else will buy it. Then u got nexus line built by lg
In the end is all your doing is stressing yourself out over a dang phone guys.
There is more to the world springs coming for some of us. Be happy to be alive.

I had HTC, Samsung, LG. When I look back I cannot say that ANY of those vendors doing the android job well. On long term they ALL suck. Why?
I hate to say it but just look at apple. What is one main part of its success? Development of Hardware and OS is in the same house. This way they can support 1 hardware over several releases and totally optimized between hw and software.
Now look at android. Google provides the main development part on Android meaning the software part. Then hardware vendors step in and adjust it to their needs. Up to here everything is fine.
But then Google says they stop MM development and then security fixes. Google say that now the hardware vendors are responsible from now on to provide patches and updates.
But here the story does not end. The hardware vendors work together with service providers like Verizon etc. Now the hardware vendor says oh I'm not responsible for those ! Updates and patches for these models should be made by the service providers instead.. Do you see where this ends?
I can totally understand the Google way but this simple does NOT work.
Example: The moment when Google decides to drop support patching MM with security patches. 90% of the hardware vendors and service providers in the world just stop here. Yes not all. Some do it better some worse but !! they all focus on specific hardware devices only so called flagships mainly.
There are good ones like blackberry out there. I see a big chance for them to get those people want to have not the latest major release but long term updated security patches. Even when Google stops to do it. Problem blackberry sold the hardware part to TCL so no one knows how this will end.
The other only chance I see which totally make sense would be using Google hardware. The way began with nexus and now goes to pixel. I believe that if Google provides updates and patches on long term for its own hardware it can be a valid choice .
I hate apple don't get me wrong. But I love the way they are able to provide software releases.
I strongly believe that my next device will be either an upcoming blackberry or the next Google pixel release..
Just my useless 5 cents..
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I hate apple don't get me wrong. But I love the way they are able to provide software releases.
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It's not just Apple - Microsoft are more similar to the Android model (one OS on multiple hardware manufacturers) and when an update is available for Windows, it's available immediately for all installs. Same with games consoles from Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo - no update staggering there either.
When it comes to software updates, Google suck. Not only are updates needlessly staggered, but often features are removed, broken or untested until release then they need to patch it, and given the delays in pushing software updates, many people are left long term with severely bugged software.
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I strongly believe that my next device will be either an upcoming blackberry or the next Google pixel release..
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Luckily for me, I don't hate Apple. Also luckily for me, I realise that I use no feature on my phone which is Android specific. I'm so done with Google that my next device is likely to be an iPhone.

TheMadScientist420 said:
Lg doesnt care about your opinion. Never did never will.
When will you guys figure that out. They dont want to support the g4. They want you to upgrade. Its the way of the world. You. Me. Us. Were such a small part of lgs sales. They dont care. They dont need to care. Theyre mobile division is so small compared to theyre tv and apliance divisions. So ure not gonna buy another lg u say. Thats fine by them. Some one else will buy it. Then u got nexus line built by lg
In the end is all your doing is stressing yourself out over a dang phone guys.
There is more to the world springs coming for some of us. Be happy to be alive.
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whos getting a nexus line,? not me. defenitively and its 2 year update cycle inst over it yet. v10 has it worst.

Let's make dozens of topics with the same posts. It is not over until the fat lady sings. Let's suffocate this topic, LG deserves it. Wait, only users that actually look for useful information will find it difficult with all these topics. Just my 2 (euro) cents.

raptorddd said:
whos getting a nexus line,? not me. defenitively and its 2 year update cycle inst over it yet. v10 has it worst.
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Lol. It is a shame. I hate it too. Im on my sprint g4 still on lolipop just so i can have root. Ill never buy a nexus again either. Had to many probs. I guess i came off too strong i wasnt tryin to be rude to no one just state a fact that lg doesnt care about you me or any one other than their greedy selfs

LG, the company i wish i could trust... hmmmm ?

TheMadScientist420 said:
Lol. It is a shame. I hate it too. Im on my sprint g4 still on lolipop just so i can have root. Ill never buy a nexus again either. Had to many probs. I guess i came off too strong i wasnt tryin to be rude to no one just state a fact that lg doesnt care about you me or any one other than their greedy selfs
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agree. they dont care.. not sure if stopped development for G4 would bring more money then no more people choosing LG.

Well, I guess my G4 bootlooped just in time. Just about time to look to other manufacturers. Jokes aside, even if this is not true, I don't think I'll be getting an LG device any time soon. I'm really tempted to explore other options, since my last 2 devices were LG-made.

linasj said:
Well, I guess my G4 bootlooped just in time. Just about time to look to other manufacturers. Jokes aside, even if this is not true, I don't think I'll be getting an LG device any time soon. I'm really tempted to explore other options, since my last 2 devices were LG-made.
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I got me a note5 ive been sportin. And i wish it had knock on but other than that i love it. At least samsung owned up to their mistakes and did somethin bout it. Again not much dev for the sprint model but a new note 7 port came out and just like havin my note7 back but rooted.

Guys, I really don't know now, I just found this:
lge.co.kr/lgekor/main.do , my korean or what the hell this is pretty sht, but google says we will get nougat in Q3, which is pretty damn late if true. I can't make the link clickable so just copy/paste it.

benjybananas said:
Guys, I really don't know now, I just found this:
lge.co.kr/lgekor/main.do , my korean or what the hell this is pretty sht, but google says we will get nougat in Q3, which is pretty damn late if true. I can't make the link clickable so just copy/paste it.
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better late then nothing dont you agree. apparently its true.

raptorddd said:
better late then nothing dont you agree. apparently its true.
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Emphasis on the late here, I mean most people - including me - won't have the phone by then, but hey, at least we will have nougat, which will be most probably sh*t, as they referred to it, but it's something.

benjybananas said:
Emphasis on the late here, I mean most people - including me - won't have the phone by then, but hey, at least we will have nougat, which will be most probably ****, as they referred to it, but it's something.
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See my chat with LG. They don't even know any news about Nougat update for their phones. I know it for other phone but you can ask them about LG G4 they will give the same answer.
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Emphasis on the late here, I mean most people - including me - won't have the phone by then, but hey, at least we will have nougat, which will be most probably sh*t, as they referred to it, but it's something.
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but most people will have the phone. and for those that still use this phone its good. we will have to wait and see if its unstable as they said.

INFERNO997 said:
I am pissed off by information that LG G4, the 2015 FLAGSHIP DEVICE from lg is not going to get nougat update .... THIS IS SOME JOKE and lg need to get their s*it together ... What the fu*k LG ???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!???
You put your money to software development for some crappy devices (that apparently will have nougat) of yours that are sh*t and you can not update one of the best devices out there .. even now the G4 is more than better device for most of consumers and IT IS A SHAME to leave behind some of the best phones of the 2015.
There is no explanation for this type of behavior and i will never buy LG .. never again .. fu*k that sh*t ...
Such a beautifull and powerfull phones and such a irresponsibility ...
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/official-nougat-g4-v10-q2-2017-t3567402