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back to the g1

i got a feeling t-mobile and htc aren't that serious about this phone. but since im still withing my 14 day, im gonna cancel my 2year contract, dust off my trusty g1 and go pre-paid while i wait and see how this goes. on a sidenote. i think its sad that t-mobile, who brought out the first android phone that started the whole frenzy of bringing iphone and RIM to their knees does not embrace their android devices. especially since they brought out a successor, it was just another phone to them i guess. i mean in comparison to apples iphone and att, and motorolas droid line-up and verizon, sprint and their evo. t-mobile and..... and.... wtf???

Wtf? Is all I have to say. Y r so many dumb ppl posting
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xile6 said:
Wtf? Is all I have to say. Y r so many dumb ppl posting
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dont get mad. be happy

hurry up n return it. stop telling us how you feel, its a phone. if u don't like it return it.

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xile6 said:
Wtf? Is all I have to say. Y r so many dumb ppl posting
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this.
you attention whores should just log off and go away.

uh oh is this the part where i get bullied off the internet and i write a sucide note and kill myself??? nah not likely

nighthawk626 said:
uh oh is this the part where i get bullied off the internet and i write a sucide note and kill myself??? nah not likely
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We're just messing with you. If you're really unsatisfied with the G2 and seeing how you really like the other phones with other carriers why not get an HD2? Off-contract of course through craigslist. You can put just about any build into it. They're dirt cheap, like $200. Until t-mobile releases more to your liking.

LOL! Nice.
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smirkis said:
hurry up n return it. stop telling us how you feel, its a phone. if u don't like it return it.
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He got all rights to tell us how he feel, that's why forums exists wtf is wrong with yu what are a dictarorship?, don't tell others to return it yu aren't their parents, its up to them if they feel like it or not, I'm also disappointed on the phones hardware the weak ass hinges but I'm gonna wait for solution from htc I'm sure they'll solve that issue, so I'm not going to return it.

G1 was junk, no way

Dalamak said:
G1 was junk, no way
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No way in anyway was the G1 junk. That phone paved the road for Android, Rooting, and everything else. I still love the G1.

G2 is by far the best phone out for android. My personal opinion is it craps on the vibrant which is its only close competitor. As far as the g1.... only reason id see you going back is if your the type of person who loves to flash roms constantly... the g2 stock is just as good as roms I've loaded. Its very tolerable to me and I usually hate stock android. But soon devs will have perm root (gl guys!) and we will be able to get our roms back all in due time. Could you imagine the g2 with custom firmware? This thing is a beast on stock froyo.... so go figure.
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did t-mobile hurt your feelings im sorry...... i dont think they care as long as you pay them every month but here you go a sad song

xdviper said:
No way in anyway was the G1 junk. That phone paved the road for Android, Rooting, and everything else. I still love the G1.
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well anything would have been rough being on the ground floor for android and Abd like that, this is true, but, that was some jacked up hardware, hinges, trackball, and keybboard, u gotta admit. Felt like Shat in your hand

I sold my rooted (and only rooted, nothing else) G1 to some idiot I work with in the army for 150 bucks.... last week. Oh, I hooked him up with some badass stock apps too like amazon mp3. And a high end bodyglove hard case that tmobile had on sale for 1.99.
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xdviper said:
No way in anyway was the G1 junk. That phone paved the road for Android, Rooting, and everything else. I still love the G1.
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I still like my G1, but now my son is enjoying it with CM 6.1
I'm not sure why so many are frustrated with the G2. I'm really loving it!

To each their own. I was happy to have been part of Android since it's beginning. But Verizon really marketed the Android phone, which would save T-Mobile a lot of marketing expenses to help familiarize people with the brand. Still, T-Mobile needs more advertising for this phone and not those dumb ads aimed at Moms.
I feel insulted.
T-Mobile should have reclaimed the G2 as a successer to the orignal with better hardware (dual core, and FF camera) and features to solidify their place as the Android King, because Verizon is stealing it.
Even though I think Android will peak by the next 2 iterations, it's downhill from there. If T-Mobile doesn't make it's position known as the king of the OS, then it's going to be downhill for them.
Next iteration of phone MUST implement the dual core processsor and more features to make this a top of the line phone. I don't want a phone that runs slower (stock G2) than an already released phone like the Galaxy S.
Step it up T-Mobile, this is my warning to you if you want to stay alive after Q1 FY11. Operations over there must be changing their target audience to Moms. Not good my friend T-Mobile... not good. Unfortunately their smartphone audience that is keeping them afloat are Android lovers and devs and the ability for us to grandfather data plans.
Be the first to release the dual core processor phone, with a projector, and front facing camera. Be the first!!! Be the first to come out with something spectaculary new, and you wont need to worry about marketing as much.
Then you can let Verizon market it for you by releasing a phone of their own with similar features. Once they set their prices, with your limited budget, you will advertise your phone with those features for less money.
Then you'll be all set. Thanks T-Mo and thanks OP for letting me ramble in your thread.

I loved the G1... the hinges made it pretty awesome and unique in my opinion. The keyboard was also pretty awesome... I go through hundreds of SMS a day and it made is so comfortable.
Still getting used to the G2... I like it so far except for the lack of FFC and weak hinges but hey what can I do about that.

luis86dr said:
G2 is by far the best phone out for android. My personal opinion is it craps on the vibrant which is its only close competitor. As far as the g1.... only reason id see you going back is if your the type of person who loves to flash roms constantly... the g2 stock is just as good as roms I've loaded. Its very tolerable to me and I usually hate stock android. But soon devs will have perm root (gl guys!) and we will be able to get our roms back all in due time. Could you imagine the g2 with custom firmware? This thing is a beast on stock froyo.... so go figure.
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I really like most Android Phones but disagree the G2 is the best Android Phone. I just dropped VZW for T-Mobile. My Droid X was just as nice if not better than the G2. I picked up the HD2 but now miss Android. So I am thinking about doing the G2 or MT 4G.
In the end he has his opinion but when it comes to prepaid the 3G coverage drops to a smaller area in my area.
As for the G1 I wasn't a big fan of the phone and the G2 is a far superior look and operating phone.

The price continues to fall....

The price has now fallen to £300 in the UK. (Even the AMOLED version).
£306.60 AMOLED - http://www.prepaymania.co.uk/mobilephone/samsung-google-nexus-s-mobile-phone.html
It's not cheap enough to justify a £150 upgrade from my Desire just yet, but if it falls to £250 I think I will make the switch to a nexus s.
What do you all think?

williamj1 said:
The price has now fallen to £300 in the UK. (Even the AMOLED version).
£306.60 AMOLED - http://www.prepaymania.co.uk/mobilephone/samsung-google-nexus-s-mobile-phone.html
It's not cheap enough to justify a £150 upgrade from my Desire just yet, but if it falls to £250 I think I will make the switch to a nexus s.
What do you all think?
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Wills your as tight as a ducks ass and thats watertight;P lollol
Spend your dough, and enjoy your phone Im a student and even im no way near that tight, lollol
JD

williamj1 said:
The price has now fallen to £300 in the UK. (Even the AMOLED version).
£306.60 AMOLED - http://www.prepaymania.co.uk/mobilephone/samsung-google-nexus-s-mobile-phone.html
It's not cheap enough to justify a £150 upgrade from my Desire just yet, but if it falls to £250 I think I will make the switch to a nexus s.
What do you all think?
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And thats the s-lcd version, lollol
i9023 is slcd;P
JD

LOL! Trust you to come on and comment.
I want to buy it so bad, but I'm not going to at that price. I'd rather save for a SGS2 I was only alerting others to the deal...
And did you get yours safely and was it sealed?

williamj1 said:
LOL! Trust you to come on and comment.
I want to buy it so bad, but I'm not going to at that price. I'd rather save for a SGS2 I was only alerting others to the deal...
And did you get yours safely and was it sealed?
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Yeah it was sealed,
I sent my black one back and bought the pimped out white version by at&t, shipping as we speak... Check it out, its the one thats all white except for the screen, its the i9020a, its hot as all hell;P
But i generally dont worry about my bank balance too much, im off to do some mega shopping up town today as well, I love spending money;P
JD

JupiterDroid said:
Yeah it was sealed,
I sent my black one back and bought the pimped out white version by at&t, shipping as we speak... Check it out, its the one thats all white except for the screen, its the i9020a, its hot as all hell;P
But i generally dont worry about my bank balance too much, im off to do some mega shopping up town today as well, I love spending money;P
JD
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Lucky you! I just hope you appreciate it. Nothing gets on my nerves more when I see all these rich kids with the newest phones who are like "how do I turn it on, what's android?" ! I work my socks off to afford these things

williamj1 said:
Lucky you! I just hope you appreciate it. Nothing gets on my nerves more when I see all these rich kids with the newest phones who are like "how do I turn it on, what's android?" ! I work my socks off to afford these things
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Well im definitely not a rich kid as im studying at university for a degree in computer networking(BEng) and I will soon be a Chartered engineer(CEng) Also built themes for CM6 in my Nexus One days for the nightly ROM builds and built two custom ROM's for the HTC Desire so im not in either of the subsets you refer to;P Im just a guy that likes his phones and really like s enjoying the time he has with them.
Android and Cisco have been my world for the last year, and i have had the Desire, nexus one, desire z, desire hd, nexus x(9020t), sgsII, and now this pimped version of the nexus s
Picture of my new beast, I very much doubt if anyone in the UK has one of these darlings...
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Well im definitely not a rich kid as im studying at university for a degree in computer networking(BEng) and I will soon be a Chartered engineer(CEng) Also built themes for CM6 in my Nexus One days for the nightly ROM builds and built two custom ROM's for the HTC Desire so im not in either of the subsets you refer to;P Im just a guy that likes his phones and really like s enjoying the time he has with them.
Android and Cisco have been my world for the last year, and i have had the Desire, nexus one, desire z, desire hd, nexus x(9020t), sgsII, and now this pimped version of the nexus s
Picture of my new beast, I very much doubt if anyone in the UK has one of these darlings...
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Call me weird, but I like the black version more Never been much of a fan of white gadgets.

williamj1 said:
Call me weird, but I like the black version more Never been much of a fan of white gadgets.
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Funny enough me neither until i saw this, fantastic looking device, and as i had the all black before, this is a nice pimped up version for me SAMOLED looks beautiful with the black and white mixed And the added plesure of knowing this model is quite a rarity as not many have been produced so far, and they are not even available in the USA at the moment... So its gonna be rare as all hell here Will look even better when 3.1 drops, lollol
JD

JupiterDroid said:
Funny enough me neither until i saw this, fantastic looking device, and as i had the all black before, this is a nice pimped up version for me SAMOLED looks beautiful with the black and white mixed And the added plesure of knowing this model is quite a rarity as not many have been produced so far, and they are not even available in the USA at the moment... So its gonna be rare as all hell here Will look even better when 3.1 drops, lollol
JD
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If.... 3.1 drops
I have to stop browsing this forum. It is making me want a nexus s sooooooooo bad. But my Desire is really awesome. It is not worth the £150 just for internal memory, better games and a front facing camera. If it falls to £250 I'm in like I say. Otherwise I save for something better.

Man thats cheap, just buy it already

williamj1 said:
If.... 3.1 drops
I have to stop browsing this forum. It is making me want a nexus s sooooooooo bad. But my Desire is really awesome. It is not worth the £150 just for internal memory, better games and a front facing camera. If it falls to £250 I'm in like I say. Otherwise I save for something better.
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The Nexus S is googles developer device now, so it will drop, at the I/O everything new was shown on a Nexus S so it will definitely drop for the NS. The question mark is how long will you have to wait for 3.1 on the SGSII. Samsung dont have a good reputation with upgrading their devices to the next OS. SGS1 still has not got official gingerbread, lollol
As a computer user, networker, builder and tentative app creator, the Nexus S for me is the best phone going. And the instant and constant updates is what makes a google phone special.
Take it from a guy that has been around android for a very long time now, There are really two phones at the moment to choose from, the SGSII and the NS, i would not let money affect your decision, let what you want out of the phones direct your decision to one or the other
good luck wills,
JD

Linus82 said:
Man thats cheap, just buy it already
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lollollol,
I have seen many guys like wills on this forum before, and they cant seem to choose between the money aspect and enjoyment..,
I work on a different set of criterion, i work on the aspect that if its class, and i like it, i buy it, and enjoy it
So my advice to you wills is buy either of these beasts and enjoy it, dont let money be a factor. If money is a factor then you should not be buying high end phones because it will affect your judgement that should be based on quality
wow, that was deep
JD

Lol. It's not that.
Money is a factor to an extent. I do not have the money to just go out and buy a SGS2 new today for £500, or else I would do so.
I have to save my money before I can afford such devices. I don't chop and change between devices, I keep them for at least a year. So if I buy a nexus s now, I would be keeping it for a year. In a year, it will be forgotten and out of date. The SGS2 will not.
In a perfect world, I would buy a Nexus S now and keep it for 6 months, sell it and then buy something dual core / the nexus 3. But I cannot afford to do that.
I cannot justify buying a nexus s. I'd be spending £300 for hardly any new features. If I didn't have a desire, this would be a steal of a deal. But £150 is a lot for minor things.
I'm not even making any sense to me now. That is a load of crap ^. Simple - I want one. But I can't bring myself to spend the money I have saved on such little changes.

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Lol. It's not that.
Money is a factor to an extent. I do not have the money to just go out and buy a SGS2 new today for £500, or else I would do so.
I have to save my money before I can afford such devices. I don't chop and change between devices, I keep them for at least a year. So if I buy a nexus s now, I would be keeping it for a year. In a year, it will be forgotten and out of date. The SGS2 will not.
In a perfect world, I would buy a Nexus S now and keep it for 6 months, sell it and then buy something dual core / the nexus 3. But I cannot afford to do that.
I cannot justify buying a nexus s. I'd be spending £300 for hardly any new features. If I didn't have a desire, this would be a steal of a deal. But £150 is a lot for minor things.
I'm not even making any sense to me now. That is a load of crap ^. Simple - I want one. But I can't bring myself to spend the money I have saved on such little changes.
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You will be waiting forever then mate,
Wait for the SGS3 coming out in september/november time with a 2ghz dual core that may have 3.1 then, and you can say to yourself, i am at the bleeding edge
JD

JupiterDroid said:
You will be waiting forever then mate,
Wait for the SGS3 coming out in september/november time with a 2ghz dual core that may have 3.1 then, and you can say to yourself, i am at the bleeding edge
JD
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I will see. I might get some extra work in the next 1/2 months, so I might treat myself (especially if it falls lower). But then again, I might get even more money and treat myself to a nice new SGS2. It lacks all the dev community and custom roms etc though That could change though.

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I will see. I might get some extra work in the next 1/2 months, so I might treat myself (especially if it falls lower). But then again, I might get even more money and treat myself to a nice new SGS2. It lacks all the dev community and custom roms etc though That could change though.
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The dev community is buzzing over there, lots of people have bought it... The only problem is Samsung only give maybe 70 percent of their source code away, the other 30 percent is there own drivers so they dont have to make that public as per the GPL.
The good thing about the Nexus S is that its completly open and you will be able to run practically anything on it. Any branded Samsung device will always be better with stock roms because it has all the codecs and stuff that make it special..
I liked the SGSII, but for all its beauty I just could not get used to various things with it...
Love CM too, and that will never happen on the SGSII, and if it does it will be a retarded version due to lack of codecs and high level video recording

I appreciate your enthusiasm. But I am standing my ground. I am not paying £150 for such small improvements. If it falls to £250, I will buy it. Otherwise, I save.
(Unless I get lots of money or win the lottery).

williamj1 said:
I appreciate your enthusiasm. But I am standing my ground. I am not paying £150 for such small improvements. If it falls to £250, I will buy it. Otherwise, I save.
(Unless I get lots of money or win the lottery).
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lol,
wait a few weeks and your dreams may come true
There are NS sealed on ebay for 250 quid, buy one of them
JD

JupiterDroid said:
lol,
wait a few weeks and your dreams may come true
There are NS sealed on ebay for 250 quid, buy one of them
JD
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Find me a link. Legit sellers?

Xoom 2

Possible new Xoom accidentally outed?
http://www.androidguys.com/2011/05/...unced-products-zaha-slimline-tracy-xl-xoom-2/
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No news there. Just hype. Of course they're working on another tablet. There is no evidence in that article of any details whatsoever. Just an "I hope" attitude of changes they THINK are problems.

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No news there. Just hype. Of course they're working on another tablet. There is no evidence in that article of any details whatsoever. Just an "I hope" attitude of changes they THINK are problems.
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Oh, don't kid yourself. The new one will come out by christmas, probably sooner. Let's hope that the 4g upgrade happens before then...

maybe I'm the only one but the tech world moves to fast for me. I just bought my xoom and its old tech with in a few months. I was also reading that there's a new galexy tab 4g comming out in the fall hell the 10.1 isn't even released yet. Then there's the tegra 3, I'm all for advancement but how do you keep up, hell how do you afford to?
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maybe I'm the only one but the tech world moves to fast for me. I just bought my xoom and its old tech with in a few months. I was also reading that there's a new galexy tab 4g comming out in the fall hell the 10.1 isn't even released yet. Then there's the tegra 3, I'm all for advancement but how do you keep up, hell how do you afford to?
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I assume that you do not keep up! There is no time or money to follow the way that tech changes.....If what you have covers your needs then you are ok.

Give us our update, then talk about a second Xoom!!!

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Give us our update, then talk about a second Xoom!!!
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I agree. That's the part that upsets me. This product hasn't reached its full potential, where's the 4g ? where's the SD card? Yes I know I can root then get SD card working but they (moto) made promise.
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I'm keeping this until a tegra3 device.

Thanks to the OP for the interesting tidbit. I think the significant news is that instead of the usual annual product cycle, it's now semi-annual.
As some said, this isn't surprising for Android tablets. At Computex '11, Asus and others are already announcing their 2nd wave of roll-outs for tabs this year.
Current owners understandably feel some angst at the prospect of being forgotten. There are two components to after-sale support. On the Goog side, the Xoom got the 3.1 update first, as it was used to develop HC and no modification was needed. I think this will hold at least to ICS. After that, it'll probably be a DIY affair, since Goog will have a new ref device for ICS.
On the Moto side, OS support is lacking, perhaps because the OS itself is a moving target. But SD-card and 4G are major items and aren't something Moto can sweep under the carpet. They'll happen, although probably later than sooner.
Though, I wouldn't count on anything else, as developing firmware for the new toys will have higher priority. It's just business. We all know this is the bleeding edge. It's a safe bet that most Xoomers here, being early adopters, will have a new squeeze when the quad-cores and ICS drop.

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Oh, don't kid yourself. The new one will come out by christmas, probably sooner. Let's hope that the 4g upgrade happens before then...
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I thought that too.
Why would they push out another tablet for no reason before ICS?

This makes my upcoming return decision easier.

obviously they are working on a new tablet but no way will it get released this year. If it does get released this year (which it isn't) fortunately for me I bought my 3g xoom at best buy and have the buy back program they offer, as long as best buy carries it I'm good

Yep, returning mine as well. The thing that gets me/I dont understand is...arent these significant processor changes going to alter the architecture enough to render the "Beta Tabs" obsolete? Meaning...the Xoom will have had a complete life cycle of 2 months and the SamTab of -1 month. If your products have a life span into the negatives...something is wrong with your strategy. People will stop buying Android Tabs until the CoreWar companies have gone broke enough to slow down R&D. Sucks, I just got a Nexus S and Xoom thinking Id at least get software updates for ICS, but thats starting to seem like a vain premise. Im not hating/*****ing...just rap'n about the state of this tech.
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abowlby said:
Yep, returning mine as well. The thing that gets me/I dont understand is...arent these significant processor changes going to alter the architecture enough to render the "Beta Tabs" obsolete? Meaning...the Xoom will have had a complete life cycle of 2 months and the SamTab of -1 month. If your products have a life span into the negatives...something is wrong with your strategy. People will stop buying Android Tabs until the CoreWar companies have gone broke enough to slow down R&D. Sucks, I just got a Nexus S and Xoom thinking Id at least get software updates for ICS, but thats starting to seem like a vain premise. Im not hating/*****ing...just rap'n about the state of this tech.
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You guys do realize this isn't only android. They're already talking about ipad 3s. Iphone just got to verizon 8 months after atts release and vzw has said the next iphone will land with them sametime it does with att. Vzw users won't even have theirs for a year. This is just another ***** fest thread
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Keep those stones your casting "pee-limb." Talking about current events is not the same as *****ing. Your crying witch because you dont want people to see your broom. You are *****ING ABOUT *****ING.
Anyway, now that the dirt has been fell from the shoulder...I just purchased the Xoom 4 days ago, so I would be kind of foolish to not return and wait. I really like the size and weight and pulled the trigger knowing I'd wait on SD (32 GB is nice on internal!) but at this point there are not only newer options coming out but they are cheaper as well. My first reply was actually more of a question, "Will a dual core device run *most* of a Quad Core OS, or are they to different for the old tech to carry on?" And interesting as well...if tablets are to one day replace other mainstream forms of daily computing, wont it eventually be a broad range of hardware running one OS anyway. I mean...I dont have an Alienware, so why would I need/expect a basement price on a bleeding edge tablet, say...5 years from now?
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abowlby said:
Keep those stones your casting "pee-limb." Talking about current events is not the same as *****ing. Your crying witch because you dont want people to see your broom. You are *****ING ABOUT *****ING.
Anyway, now that the dirt has been fell from the shoulder...I just purchased the Xoom 4 days ago, so I would be kind of foolish to not return and wait. I really like the size and weight and pulled the trigger knowing I'd wait on SD (32 GB is nice on internal!) but at this point there are not only newer options coming out but they are cheaper as well. My first reply was actually more of a question, "Will a dual core device run *most* of a Quad Core OS, or are they to different for the old tech to carry on?" And interesting as well...if tablets are to one day replace other mainstream forms of daily computing, wont it eventually be a broad range of hardware running one OS anyway. I mean...I dont have an Alienware, so why would I need/expect a basement price on a bleeding edge tablet, say...5 years from now?
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I purchased my xoom 4 days ago but I'm going to return it and wait 9 months so I can get the new one, lmfao. Their talking about quad cores now and the galaxy tab hasn't even dropped. Yup, keep waiting lol
Quadcore project kal-el
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBvaDtshLY8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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You guys do realize this isn't only android. They're already talking about ipad 3s. Iphone just got to verizon 8 months after atts release and vzw has said the next iphone will land with them sametime it does with att. Vzw users won't even have theirs for a year. This is just another ***** fest thread
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Difference being that their products were functional when they got them. It's been months and months and months and the SD Card and 4G update are nowhere to be found. It's disgusting. At this point, I truly do not think that either update is actually coming. The fact that they're more interested in selling their next incomplete product than fixing the mess they shoveled out initially is obscene. This is my first Motorola Android product, and after this mess I think it may be the last.

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Difference being that their products were functional when they got them. It's been months and months and months and the SD Card and 4G update are nowhere to be found. It's disgusting. At this point, I truly do not think that either update is actually coming. The fact that they're more interested in selling their next incomplete product than fixing the mess they shoveled out initially is obscene. This is my first Motorola Android product, and after this mess I think it may be the last.
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Xoom is and was functional when you bought it. If you wanted sd card then you should've never bought the xoom
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Slim...your fanboy is showing. I'm off this thread. Christ.
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abowlby said:
Slim...your fanboy is showing. I'm off this thread. Christ.
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Yes, truth hurts. Go cry somewhere else. The SD slot is the most pathetic argument there is. You buy something as if they actually gave you and indication of any timeline on that feature as well as they NEVER advertise anything about that. They do however advertise 4G which is a complaint but still they didn't give any exact time frame, I believe they said 2nd quarter, which hasn't ended yet
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What you guys always wanted

Too bad its not from sprint
http://tinyurl.com/d7t5qzc
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Looks like the og galaxy s as a slider. I don't know for sure but that looks like a 4 inch screen, and for me that's too small. Even my photons screen feels small at 4.3 inches.
Oh how I miss my physical keyboard on my epic
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It's funny that the Epic is a 700 model number and that is 699.
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kennyglass123 said:
It's funny that the Epic is a 700 model number and that is 699.
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Nice catch
And I wouldn't mind an epic with a 720p display
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heres another one. a moto sprint slider.
http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-working-ics-slider-sprint?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter

austin420 said:
heres another one. a moto sprint slider.
http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-working-ics-slider-sprint?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
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Assuming this is a qHD screen as the article suggests, how does that stack up against the newest Samsung screens.
Thanks to the Epic, I have grown to HATE Samsung. They have shown their true colors when it comes to software updates and I want out. The Epic development community is truly awesome, but it is a shame that we have to rely on non-paid people to make this phone what it should be. That said, I find Samsung hardware to be very nice.

i dont think i could ever get a moto phone. they are the most locked down of the three major android oems. i will prolly always buy samsung just because of the completely unlocked bootloaders and because they have a utility like odin.

@austin
That phone is pretty sexy though imo. To bad it's motorola, but it's probably the photon Q.
To OP the button on the bottom seems tacky to me, I love our lit up one. And the keyboard is so spacy, ;/
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Thanks to the Epic, I have grown to HATE Samsung. They have shown their true colors when it comes to software updates and I want out.
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I disagree with you there.
I will freely admit that the delay on FroYo was terrible and ridiculous, when FroYo was rolling out the SGSII still wasn't released, and they had already promised it to us. But Gingerbread was a courtesy. They had a new generation of smartphone running around and they only anted up due to demand. And the whole complying with what Sprint wanted. I blame them. Sprint that is. So I don't think you can rag on Samsung for that one.
And if the Epic Touch 4G is any indicator, it looks like there is one dude working on these builds. They're slow. Fact. But frankly, as long as the end user knows it's being worked on, they should be happy. Especially with the speed they already have. He's doing his best I'm sure. Poor little Samsung man.
PLUS. More room for developers to step in and make the ****ty software they're stuck with better. Case and point: Epic 4G. And without the delays I wouldn't know what I know.

Milkman00 said:
Assuming this is a qHD screen as the article suggests, how does that stack up against the newest Samsung screens.
Thanks to the Epic, I have grown to HATE Samsung. They have shown their true colors when it comes to software updates and I want out. The Epic development community is truly awesome, but it is a shame that we have to rely on non-paid people to make this phone what it should be. That said, I find Samsung hardware to be very nice.
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Samsung Equals Better Updates not this phone but in General
HTC equals updates daily and all of which are ****tier and annoying I rather wait for an update and be successful again not this phone but Samsung in General.
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If it's a slider, I would consider it if the rest of the hardware is up to par once it's released (and Sprint LTE is out & delivers). Motos are very locked down, have non-removable batteries, have worse screen res and are easy to brick during root/flash process if it goes wrong. Definitely prefer Samsung here, but with no sliders on the horizon this phone warrants some consideration. On the plus side, Moto phone batteries tend to have more up-front Mah, radios are generally better and somehow the fastboot files always seem to leak and devs are able to make root stick. Moto is also very slow to update its phones but wife's Droid 2, released later than Epic got its GB update 3 months before we did and also had good dev support in forms of CM9 and AOKP.

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i dont think i could ever get a moto phone. they are the most locked down of the three major android oems. i will prolly always buy samsung just because of the completely unlocked bootloaders and because they have a utility like odin.
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I agree motorola is very locked down, in the photon forums people who underwent the official motorola soak update test they got permanently locked in a new way. I am unlocked fortunately and there is a good dev community so I am happy with my photon. I hope it is an improved qHD display because mine is definitely not on par with the epic's screen. I really hope they put the S4 processor in it because that would be nice. This is probably the rumored photon q, q most likely standing for qwerty. Also makes alot of sense why the epic just went EOL. We also have a very similar utility like odin its called sbf.
When my upgrade comes in december I am all over this.
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But Gingerbread was a courtesy. They had a new generation of smartphone running around and they only anted up due to demand.
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Why??? The hardware could handle it, and the phone wasn't EOL. Getting software updates on phones that aren't EOL should be a no brainer. I shouldn't have to upgrade my hardware just to get new software, UNLESS the hardware can't handle the new software. These aren't FREE phones. We pay quite a bit of money for these phones. Getting some major software releases should be part of the deal.
I think the EOL thing is semantics anyway TBH. The software always lists the minimum requirements in order to run it adequately on hardware, if the hardware can support it, these manufacturers need to be supporting their customers AFTER the sale, and not just for 6 months after the sale.
darkierawr said:
And if the Epic Touch 4G is any indicator, it looks like there is one dude working on these builds. They're slow. Fact. But frankly, as long as the end user knows it's being worked on, they should be happy.
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This is not my problem. I should not be two levels of software behind, because they are greedy and don't want to hire the correct number of people to maintain their hardware. Why should I be happy with wayyyyyyyyyyyy subpar customer service??? It is sad what society considers "acceptable" from companies these days (customer service out of India is the first thing that comes to mind).
I am not looking for new versions of software the day that Google releases them, but if they can run on our hardware, I expect them in relatively short order.
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I have been burned by Samsung TWO OUT OF TWO times now. Once on our Epic, and the other on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 which is STILL running Honeycomb. My complaints about Samsung stem further than just our phone.

The only reason why the Epic wasn't on the EOL list, was because it was the only high-end qwerty phone. Since Moto is making a high-end qwerty phone with ICs for sprint the Epic can r.i.p.
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Psh no they still keep this phone
It'll still be the best QWERTY slider for a while
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Let's keep the new phone discussions in the new phone thread.
Thanks
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Should I sell my galaxy nexus and get the nexus 4? If yes, how?

Hi guys,
I've been pondering over this. Maybe I could even consider the galaxy s3. What do you think?
The nexus 4 or the galaxy s3 or just stick with the galaxy nexus.
I live in singapore. So getting the nexus 4 is a little difficult. I could use eBay to find local sellers or from the US/UK/AUS.
I can also use sites that give me a us address to purchase. However, the play store has none in stock..
What do you recommend I do? Thanks.
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shockem said:
Hi guys,
I've been pondering over this. Maybe I could even consider the galaxy s3. What do you think?
The nexus 4 or the galaxy s3 or just stick with the galaxy nexus.
I live in singapore. So getting the nexus 4 is a little difficult. I could use eBay to find local sellers or from the US/UK/AUS.
I can also use sites that give me a us address to purchase. However, the play store has none in stock..
What do you recommend I do? Thanks.
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I would stick with the Gnex. If I would have to choose between the N4 or the GSIII, I would choose the N4, simply because I wouldn't buy anything other than a Nexus device or something similar. And the price/performance ratio is just better.
But if I had the Gnex, I would stick with it. Sure, the N4 is better. Almost every new phone is better than the previous one. I would always skip one generation though. I had the Nexus S, and now I have the Nexus 4. If you skip one generation, you really feel change. Not saying that you won't feel change if you come from a Gnex though.
It's a personal preference and we can't really help you with that. The only legit reason to get a N4 (versus getting another phone) that I can think of is the price. But the cheapest is to just use your Gnex for another year.

Well since you can't order one I would say stick with the gal nex. Only if your leaving a ****ty place like sprint for T-Mobile and your old phone won't work. I don't think the nexus 4 is that great it doesn't feel as fast as I expected. Also I hate the nexus 4 screen.
But on T-Mobile I get really fast data and my bill is 100 bucks less a month.
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+1 on staying with the Gnex, especially since getting your hands on a N4 would be a pain. I wouldn't bother getting an S3 either; you might as well wait a bit and pick up the S4 when it comes out...
Are you unhappy with your Gnex for some reason, or just thinking about an upgrade?

tengen said:
+1 on staying with the Gnex, especially since getting your hands on a N4 would be a pain. I wouldn't bother getting an S3 either; you might as well wait a bit and pick up the S4 when it comes out...
Are you unhappy with your Gnex for some reason, or just thinking about an upgrade?
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+1 on this, right now I think everyone should stick with whatever phone they have and be ready for a 2013 android phones invasion. There will be so many great choices, just a little more patience.
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barondebxl said:
+1 on this, right now I think everyone should stick with whatever phone they have and be ready for a 2013 android phones invasion. There will be so many great choices, just a little more patience.
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But yet they will probably release with the older Android version JellyBean 4.1.X. Which is always like that because last CES released 4.0.X when 4.1.X was already out.
I disagree, Nexus devices will always be on the top of the chain in terms of ROM and kernel development and the best stock experience possible. No carrier restrictions, no bloatware, not receiving updates 5-7 months later. Not to mention this phone will be one of the first devices to receive Android 5.0.X. Galaxy Nexus remained relevant all of last year regardless of all phones being released. Once a Nexus, always a Nexus.

It all depends on your budget.
Paid a total of $370ish with tax for my N4, but was able to sell my GN for $300 shortly after. So for 70 bucks it was worth it for me.
The upgrade is undoubtedly worth it though, the speed increase and over all performance is a world's better on the N4 compared to my old GN.
Good luck!

There's no other phone than Nexus:good:

i love my gnex. so much so that im having trouble rationalizing why i need to get a n4.

simms22 said:
i love my gnex. so much so that im having trouble rationalizing why i need to get a n4.
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Because morfic made a Trinity kernel thread on the N4 forums just today even though there was a thread on his site, so therefore you must buy one to contribute to his XDA thread duh

zephiK said:
Because morfic made a Trinity kernel thread on the N4 forums just today even though there was a thread on his site, so therefore you must buy one to contribute to his XDA thread duh
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lol, just minutes ago i told him the same. someone needs to take care of the noobs

You could try Kijiji or Crsigslist to sell or trade the phone

Thanks for the replies guys. I will let you know of the decision soon. If i can get my hands on one easily through ebay then i will go for it. If not i will stick.

I had a Gnex before my N4.
Get the N4.

Try Swappa. I got tired of waiting for my shipping confirmation from my order on Nov 13th, so I canceled it, and on Dec 2nd, I bought a BNIB 16GB off Swappa for $410. I paid $15 more and got mine in 3 days. I've never owned a GNex though so I can't comment on it. But I can tell you, this is the best device I have ever owned, and I will own nothing but Nexus from here on out.
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It's not much of an upgrade IMO. I'd wait for the next phone, but that's just me. It's not like you will run a different OS or anything. Cameras are good on both, good specs on both, good displays, and you'll have to rebuy accessories.
It's your call though

mobileboost said:
It's not much of an upgrade IMO. I'd wait for the next phone, but that's just me. It's not like you will run a different OS or anything. Cameras are good on both, good specs on both, good displays, and you'll have to rebuy accessories.
It's your call though
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mobileboost said:
It's not much of an upgrade IMO. I'd wait for the next phone, but that's just me. It's not like you will run a different OS or anything. Cameras are good on both, good specs on both, good displays, and you'll have to rebuy accessories.
It's your call though
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Camera on GN is actually not that good.

zephiK said:
Camera on GN is actually not that good.
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now you know that ill say that youre wrong, all shot from a galaxy nexus..
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Simms your pictures always make the gnexus look so good. Since the beginning even the nexus s.
I have arranged with a local seller to get my nexus 4 tomorrow for SGD$650 which I believe is a reasonable price for the 16GB version.
Anything I should look out for?
Once again, I am very thankful for all your help and suggestions
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