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Maybe we should organize a boycott of the Galaxy Tab

I apologize for making another "I'm mad at Samsung for..." thread, but after trying for the past hours to get the JI5 update and failing, I'm a bit angrier than I usually am and want to hurt Samsung somewhere where they will feel it while not going to extremes like trying to organize a class action suit.
Ever since the Galaxy S line came out they really haven't done much to support it except release 3 buggy updates for three of the phones and completely ignore the one that's been out in the States for the longest (until the "made you look" event of today), yet they're so eager to show off that Galaxy Tab that they want everyone to be interested in and buy next month. I suggest simply spreading the word to everyone that no one should but that thing until they at least get their house in order and get the Galaxy S line up to the basic functionality they should have had out of the box. Spread the word that they apparently can't support the products they release and that nobody should touch those things until they can prove they are going to stand behind the products they want us to spend our hard earned money on.
Before some of you start flaming me, I do very well know this is a forum for people who mod their phones and have no intention of staying stock. I mod my phones too. Even with the fixes I've flashed I still have issues with GPS and the phone resetting. I appreciate everything the community has done to help make these phones better and I whole heartedly thank them for doing so, but at the same time there's a whole company with a division of people getting paid to do this that hasn't been able to supply us with one good fix after nearly 3 months time. It's time we should make every potential customer aware of that.

I'm boycotting the U.S. release of the Galaxy Tab, but only because I find the fact that all 4 U.S. carriers disabling the phone functions of the thing (the international version won't have this limitation) as a hugely retarded move.
I'm not interested in carrying around 2 huge slabs-o-touchscreen all the darn time. If I were I'd be an iDiot and worship Steve Jobs.

That's understandable, personally I could care less about being able to make calls on tablet. It's not like you would be able to take calls on both your cell phone and the tablet. And I sure wouldn't care for having another phone number.
I love my iPad btw!

masterotaku said:
I'm boycotting the U.S. release of the Galaxy Tab, but only because I find the fact that all 4 U.S. carriers disabling the phone functions of the thing (the international version won't have this limitation) as a hugely retarded move.
I'm not interested in carrying around 2 huge slabs-o-touchscreen all the darn time. If I were I'd be an iDiot and worship Steve Jobs.
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Why would you carry it around if you can't use it as a phone?
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To be honest I am not surprised they are disabling the calling feature. In fact I would be surprised if they didn't.
I mean I for one wouldn't want to stop using my vibrant to use that giant tablet.
Also no matter what it will have wifi so it can be more like a laptop on the go and playing games on it will be awesome from the looks of it.

Well if they are just disabling the feature then that means the hardware to make calls is still built in so someone could root it and make calls anyway. But I'm still not getting one cause it'll be just like my phone. Tablets are a median of a phone and a notebook but nowadays the Ipad is the best out.
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Can't say I'm feeling pouty and petulant about Samsung in general, but I crossed four Tabs off my Xmas list when they announced the phone functionality was disabled.
As for the frequent comments about the Tab being too large to use as a phone, I use my phone as a speakerphone most of the time, and Bluetooth headsets put the final nail in the coffin for that argument.

I really doubt the S Tab will sell much anyway.
Smaller screen than the iPad, lower resolution, considerably worse battery life, for almost the same price....
Plus, given our experience with Samsung, it will probably not be upgraded to Gingerbread, which according to Google is the first version of Android actually meant for tablets.
Who in their right mind will buy the Tab?

What made me mad is they have more accessories slated for that thing than the very phones they already have out.
Docks, keyboards and all kinds of goodies. Oh yeah they all plug into the bottom of the Tab not the top like our retarded phones.

hurrpancakes said:
Why would you carry it around if you can't use it as a phone?
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Exactly!
Since it's functionally crippled compared to it's European counterpart I don't plan on carrying one around.
It's an interesting device, and will probably have a modicum of success, but the deliberate lockdown of an existing feature is one that makes me uninterested in it.
Given that it's carrier unsubsidized pricing internationally is likely going to make it more expensive than the iPad, if I were to develop an interest in an Android tablet/mid that didn't support phone functions, I'd just SPEND LESS MONEY on a comparable 7" tablet that doesn't have phone functions. There are several...

Huge flaw with Samsung tablet, not sure if mentioned
At the moment pretty much every App available doesn't even support the tablets 1024x600 resolution so they will be to small for the screen or will stretch and look like crap.

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Huge flaw with Samsung tablet, not sure if mentioned
At the moment pretty much every App available doesn't even support the tablets 1024x600 resolution so they will be to small for the screen or will stretch and look like crap.
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I can make everything in an app support that higher res, and I font even consider myself a dev... More of a file mover.. But there are tutorials and some apps are already compatible...
Remember when donut and froyo came out not all apps were compatible.. Some apps dont work on donut now...
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WTF does this have to do with the Vibrant? Oh, can all of you stop blaming everything on Samsung? It seems like only half the people on this forum has sense and understands that T-Mobile makes the final call on updates.

DKYang said:
WTF does this have to do with the Vibrant? Oh, can all of you stop blaming everything on Samsung? It seems like only half the people on this forum has sense and understands that T-Mobile makes the final call on updates.
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Dude, you are drawn to these threads like a fly is to sh!t!
T-Mobile has its problems, but what about the rest of the companies carrying the Galaxy S? Have any released Froyo, or successful compass fixes?
No? Must be a worldwide carrier conspiracy to make Samsung look bad, by delaying fixes and OS upgrades.....
No, Samsung's track records with product support just sucks. That's why some are pissed.

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Wait a second, let me get this straight. You are upset because an unofficial, probably beta quality firmware wasn't available properly through a piece of software that hasn't been released to the US market yet?

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Wait a second, let me get this straight. You are upset because an unofficial, probably beta quality firmware wasn't available properly through a piece of software that hasn't been released to the US market yet?
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Nice troll, since I don't believe you are actually as stupid as you're trying to get us to believe.
No, we're all pissed off about Samsung's crappy support. I bought a phone with a GPS built in. I can't use my GPS because it doesn't work.
A little fact which has been repeatedly explained to you. So either you choose to ignore it so you can troll more, or you have major issues with reading comprehension, take your pick.
And, as I said elsewhere, no one forced you to bring your fanboi self into this thread.

I'll hold out for MOTO or HTC
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That's great, let's organize a boycott of something that 99.9% of people have no plan to purchase in the first place. In other words, we're going to have to seek out people who want to buy the Tab and then dissuade them. Personally, I think I won't.

psshh, who is gonna buy that over sized phone anyway, too big for been a phone, too small for been a tablet

Xoom or gslate?

Ok im deciding between the xoom and the gslate. xoom supposed to be out in the next 2 weeks, gslate by the end of march. they're similar in specs. But should I sacrifice the bigger screen (10.1 inch) on the xoom for a "possible" smaller (8.9 inch) 3d screen on the gslate. Gslate is definitely capable of recording 3d though. I have tmobile as my carrier also but I don't mind signing a contract with verizon either since tmobile doesn't have 3g in my area yet (I guess they haven't have time to update our network cuz they're busy bull sh*tting about their 4g network). So which one do you think is better?
Ps: I've also heard that if the gslate has 3d screen, it'd require a pair of 3d glasses. I have no 3d tv either.
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I prefer the Xoom, since I think all these 3D are a gimmick.

Mokurex said:
I prefer the Xoom, since I think all these 3D are a gimmick.
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This^^^^^^

im leaning toward the G Slate for myself. Im on TMo and I prefer a smaller joint. I almost bout a galaxy tab then these showcased at the CES. I would prefer a smaller galaxy tab like screen for mobile purposes. If i want a 9-10 inch joint id buy a laptop or netbook. But, they will still get my money...lol

I am leaning towards the G-Slate for 2 reasons.
1) I am already a very happy T-Mobile customer and not a big fan of Verizon.
2) 3D. I already have a 3DTV and I enjoy it very much, I disagree with it being just a gimmick.

Buck Shot said:
im leaning toward the G Slate for myself. Im on TMo and I prefer a smaller joint. I almost bout a galaxy tab then these showcased at the CES. I would prefer a smaller galaxy tab like screen for mobile purposes. If i want a 9-10 inch joint id buy a laptop or netbook. But, they will still get my money...lol
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Maybe I'm crazy but I still think of LG as the cheap, low-end consumer appliance manufaturer. They made a microwave I had years ago.
And, I dunno, as such I'm skeptical about build quality. But I'd rather something on TMO or something without a contract.
The Xoom looks awesome but I dont think I want Verizon hiding behind every MB looking to charge me more money.
Yeah, I'm kind of a pessimist.

I'm leaning towards a Wi-Fi version of the Xoom. If they don't do a W-Fi version, then I'll get a ViewSonic G-Tab and flash Honeycomb onto it.

I kinda wanted the G-Slate, since it definitely seems to look more appealing than the Xoom.. but I don't know about the 8.9'' screen size. If it was at least the iPad's 9.7'' size.. I don't think I want to get any smaller than that. And then I hear that the Xoom's screen quality isn't even up to par with the entirely irrelevant to this discussion BB Playbook.
I don't know what to want ._.

Buck Shot said:
im leaning toward the G Slate for myself. Im on TMo and I prefer a smaller joint. I almost bout a galaxy tab then these showcased at the CES. I would prefer a smaller galaxy tab like screen for mobile purposes. If i want a 9-10 inch joint id buy a laptop or netbook. But, they will still get my money...lol
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Well I'm kinda bored with the Windows OS. In fact, I hardly use it at all anymore ever since I got my N1. But I prefer the 10.1 inch on a tablet though, but 8.9 really doesn't make much of a difference to me either.
To other commenters: LG isn't a cheap manufacturer man.....they're the second biggest electronics manufacturer behind samsung in Korea. And No, I'm definitely not getting a Playbook since I've never owned a Blackberry phones to sync it with.
Where did you hear about the screen on the Xoom?

Originally Posted by Mokurex
I prefer the Xoom, since I think all these 3D are a gimmick.
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This^^^^^^
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+1!
Get the Xoom, assuming the price isn't outrageous. Until proven otherwise I don't believe that the 3D screen won't degrade the visual quality on the LG unit.
Here's a limited shootout based on what is currently known:
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/107...dia-tegra-2-nvidia-tegra-2-3d-processor-i.htm

LG=GE. You remember GE right? Their logo is only stamped over almost every light bulb in America.

Remember this?
@tdcrooks if you want to do custom roms, then buy elsewhere, we'll continue with our strategy that is working thanks.
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This alone will probably keep me away from Motorola for a very long time.
The G-Slate looks very appealing to me, with or without the 3D experience.
Although I'd rather buy HTC, which will undoubtedly come later in the year.

I whould love honeycomb on 7" with nvidias tegra2... that whould be cool
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Get the xoom, it's essentially the nexus tablet.

Yea me too. A nice dual core, 7 inch honeycomb. I feel that's a good pocketable size.
I was going to by the Samsung tab. But then news of these came down the wire. In the end, decided I would wait.
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Well early leak says xoom could be out at the price of $699 unconfirmed, I hope it's the unsubsidized price though. Gslate has not yet been priced. LG is a good brand cuz I had this messaging phone before the n1, LG neon, anybody knows of it? It was a great messaging phone. Thanks for link too.
But I also don't think that the xoom is the nexus tablet either. It'll definitely be locked down. If xoom is the nexus tablet because it has no customization on it, then so is the gslate.
But hopefully lol both of them are going to be low price unsubsidized.
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wang1404 said:
Well early leak says xoom could be out at the price of $699 unconfirmed, I hope it's the unsubsidized price though. Gslate has not yet been priced. LG is a good brand cuz I had this messaging phone before the n1, LG neon, anybody knows of it? It was a great messaging phone. Thanks for link too.
But I also don't think that the xoom is the nexus tablet either. It'll definitely be locked down. If xoom is the nexus tablet because it has no customization on it, then so is the gslate.
But hopefully lol both of them are going to be low price unsubsidized.
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No, the Xoom is definitely the "Nexus Tablet". Not because it is pure Honeycomb, but because it is Google's lead Honeycomb tablet device. Just like the Nexus, apps will be developed on the Xoom, it will be shown in all those major app release videos like the Nexus One/S, and Google will use it to demo any tablet developments they make.
Although I'm about to contradict myself, the only reason I wouldn't believe it is the Nexus tablet is because it is tied to a carrier. And even has the Verizon branding on it. The Nexus One and Nexus S were simply buy it if you want to, it wasn't tied to anyone, and had no other branding but the manufacturer and Google.
In this situation, I believe it was "Google asked Motorola to make a tablet", not "Motorola made their own Honeycomb tablet cause they felt like it". I'm really assuming that Google will handle all the updates for the Xoom, and they used Verizon cause they needed to put the device out on a major network with amazing advertising power.

Eclair~ said:
No, the Xoom is definitely the "Nexus Tablet". Not because it is pure Honeycomb, but because it is Google's lead Honeycomb tablet device. Just like the Nexus, apps will be developed on the Xoom, it will be shown in all those major app release videos like the Nexus One/S, and Google will use it to demo any tablet developments they make.
Although I'm about to contradict myself, the only reason I wouldn't believe it is the Nexus tablet is because it is tied to a carrier. And even has the Verizon branding on it. The Nexus One and Nexus S were simply buy it if you want to, it wasn't tied to anyone, and had no other branding but the manufacturer and Google.
In this situation, I believe it was "Google asked Motorola to make a tablet", not "Motorola made their own Honeycomb tablet cause they felt like it". I'm really assuming that Google will handle all the updates for the Xoom, and they used Verizon cause they needed to put the device out on a major network with amazing advertising power.
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It had to be google who asked for motorola to make it. you've just convinced me the xoom is the nexus tablet because I remember at d dive into mobile, andy rubin brought the xoom with him. +1 to you.
It just pulls a trigger to me that google was using samsung galaxy s to be the nexus s because they didn't have 3.0 and the xoom ready yet. So they just did a quick search and found that sgs is the most powerful phone back then yet. But that didn't please everybody of course.
Like you said google need a powerful network to rely on, so verizon is clearly the winner. Let me add to that though. Google doesn't play favorite. They've already released their babies on at&t and tmobile except for verizon and sprint. Plus motorola has had a very good relationship with verizon thanks to the droid brand.
I think im gonna go with the xoom. But I'll keep waiting and weigh both of them some more when more official informations are out. But verizon and motorola better keep the promise to upgrade the chip to lte 4g. Motorola just ditched the cliq xt if that proves what I said.
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Price Price Price.
Until I know if the Wifi only versions will even exist and at what price point no point thinking about it.
If it wasnt for Notion Inks hideous giantbezel design theyd be a no brainer because of the sky high price points being thrown around.

Smartphone War?!?!

The battle of the Specs has begun. Which will you choose? The Samsung Galaxy S2 alone clocked in over 3000+ on its benchmark.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/15/htc-sensation-versus-the-rest-of-the-dual-core-world-smartphone/

Samsungs are jokes. LG tegra 2 for tmo is here lets see some scores for that.
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I wouldn't get a Samsung toaster if it was free. I will stick with HTC.

gqstatus0685 said:
I wouldn't get a Samsung toaster if it was free. I will stick with HTC.
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Even though the Samsung is a beast, my Evo has really made me fall in love with Htc and Sense. The specs indicate that Evo 3D will have Sense 3.0 as well.

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knowledge561 said:
Even though the Samsung is a beast, my Evo has really made me fall in love with Htc and Sense. The specs indicate that Evo 3D will have Sense 3.0 as well.
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I've loved HTC ever since my TYTN days.

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I've loved HTC ever since my TYTN days.
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I had the wing, dash, and mda with tmo lol
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I miss my T-Mo Dash.

The Samsung Nexus S 4G looks sweet. I would pay $150 on contract for that phone. You guys are nuts for hating on that phone.

HTC or moto for me. Unless they keep up with enycrpting bootloaders...
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I don't see the nexusS doing anything my evo can't do, besides some fancy gaming, which I dont use my phone for anyways. There are things my evo can do the nexus can't,like run sense, change sd cards, notification lights, HDMI out to name a few.

mattrb said:
The Samsung Nexus S 4G looks sweet. I would pay $150 on contract for that phone. You guys are nuts for hating on that phone.
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Id rather save my upgrade for something better. I just don't see it as much of an upgrade from my evo. It will be outdated by the end of this year, I don't care how many people make the argument of it being directly supported by google.
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mattrb said:
The Samsung Nexus S 4G looks sweet. I would pay $150 on contract for that phone. You guys are nuts for hating on that phone.
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The Nexus S 4G is one phone that we will never hate just because of the fact that it is GOOGLES phone. Direct updates, direct response, Completely open source.

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AMEN
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dirkyd3rk said:
Id rather save my upgrade for something better. I just don't see it as much of an upgrade from my evo. It will be outdated by the end of this year, I don't care how many people make the argument of it being directly supported by google.
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I'll make another argument anyway.
By the end of the year the Nexus S will be pushed the usual Q4 Android update. The EVO 3D will probably have to wait until Q2 2012 or be stuck with buggy custom ROMs.

Nexus s was made by Samsung but I am sure its by google requirements. If you compare HTC nexus 1 and Samsung nexus s,u will want nexus s.
Also there is no moto or HTC which can even come close to sgs2. They did lacked in os updates in past but it was becoz of powerful and unique hardware. You just play with super amoled screen for once you will never go back to LCD or slcd. Also sgs2 specs beats HTC sensation is every department.
HTC will another 3 phones to beat Samsung. Just like what happened when HTC released one phone every month to compete with galaxy s series still Galaxy s is most selling android phones.
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Your missing the part where the evo was the second phone after the Google phone to get updated when it first came out. Very fast.
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I'll make another argument anyway.
By the end of the year the Nexus S will be pushed the usual Q4 Android update. The EVO 3D will probably have to wait until Q2 2012 or be stuck with buggy custom ROMs.
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Award Tour said:
I'll make another argument anyway.
By the end of the year the Nexus S will be pushed the usual Q4 Android update. The EVO 3D will probably have to wait until Q2 2012 or be stuck with buggy custom ROMs.
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I mean that's cool if it gets open source support etc wow but the hardware will be done by 2011 imo. Every rom is buggy imo because Google rolls out these new build just to damn fast. Id rather have a bug free 2.2(which we still have) then moving to another android build that's still plague with the same bugs. 2.2 is no where near perfect (sense/aosp) and they're already talking about ice cream; give me a break Google get your **** together. Not to mention 2.3 is blah, even on the nexus s. I just don't care about direct support man because direct or not no build is perfect. I also don't care for the evo 3D, I will just hold my evo until something is worth switch. If HTC made a 4" webOS 3.0 phone I would jump ship in a heartbeat. Im just kind of bored with android :-(
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dirkyd3rk said:
I mean that's cool if it gets open source support etc wow but the hardware will be done by 2011 imo. Every rom is buggy imo because Google rolls out these new build just to damn fast. Id rather have a bug free 2.2(which we still have) then moving to another android build that's still plague with the same bugs. 2.2 is no where near perfect (sense/aosp) and they're already talking about ice cream; give me a break Google get your **** together. Not to mention 2.3 is blah, even on the nexus s. I just don't care about direct support man because direct or not no build is perfect. I also don't care for the evo 3D, I will just hold my evo until something is worth switch. If HTC made a 4" webOS 3.0 phone I would jump ship in a heartbeat. Im just kind of bored with android :-(
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You are right - no build is perfect, but at least you get the latest Android version. Either way Sense ROMs are built on top of AOSP, so most AOSP bugs are also in Sense but you also get Sense bugs on top of that.
As for Android - I'm actually looking into WP7. Mango fixes a lot of the things that prevented me from giving WP7 a try (good browser, multi-tasking). I figure I'd get the Nexus S now (hopefully next week), and then ride that until MS releases the next major update early next year. WP7 Mango looks incredibly good, and will get even better next year. I envision 2012 being MS year - Windows 8 laptop/desktop/tablet/phone/Xbox unity. I can see myself with a Macbook running Windows 8 for heavy work, a Windows 8 tablet for casual use, a Windows 8 netbook for coding, and a WP8 phone for calling and smaller on the go stuff.

Award Tour said:
You are right - no build is perfect, but at least you get the latest Android version. Either way Sense ROMs are built on top of AOSP, so most AOSP bugs are also in Sense but you also get Sense bugs on top of that.
As for Android - I'm actually looking into WP7. Mango fixes a lot of the things that prevented me from giving WP7 a try (good browser, multi-tasking). I figure I'd get the Nexus S now (hopefully next week), and then ride that until MS releases the next major update early next year. WP7 Mango looks incredibly good, and will get even better next year. I envision 2012 being MS year - Windows 8 laptop/desktop/tablet/phone/Xbox unity. I can see myself with a Macbook running Windows 8 for heavy work, a Windows 8 tablet for casual use, a Windows 8 netbook for coding, and a WP8 phone for calling and smaller on the go stuff.
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This. One thing you learn about microsoft, if they want something good enough, their marketing department will take it over.
The amazing hardware acceleration on wp7 will ultimately win over a lot of people. No fragmentation, fast, easy app developments, no gay skins, updates sent by microsoft themselves etc.. will make it a def winner in the coming years. Mainly the app development. Even though java has its fair share of good programmers, there are a LOT more C# developers in the scene. Not only that, but C# has always seemed to outdo java in certain areas, such as gaming, and speed.
I also have a feeling that microsoft will have tricks up their sleeves coming w8. Some kind of integration technique between wp7 and windows.
Also looking at security wise, unless google starts taking their security and updates more seriously, people will start to see more worms and virus' on their phones, and will eventually drive away the majority of users away from android as they start to see 500$ bills showing up on their phone bill for dialing to china.

HTC EVO 4G - The People's Smartphone

This is just a random banter, but I have to say that of all smartphones I've used or tinkered with, this one to me has had the most love. I can't help but notice how all the awesome and devoted devs here on XDA are still porting and creating ROMs for this amazing phone. The EVO is what got me into Android and modifying ROMs of my own. Now that the EVO has been discontinued, let us take a moment to reflect on its majestic legacy, and see it off the way it deserves. Some key moments I remember are:
-When I saw the commercial for the EVO and it blew my mind.
-Waiting three weeks for mine to come in stock.
-When I finally bought it: August 8, 2010.
-When I learned about rooting and nervously tried it for myself.
-When I found XDA, with a whole section devoted to the EVO.
-When I tried the unlocked hotspot for the first time.
-When I accepted an OTA and lost root, not knowing what I just did.
-Waiting impatiently for 4.24 to gain root.
-Learning 4.24 had finally gained root, and leaving work early so I could root my EVO.
These are just a few moments, but there are many more. I know this post probably sounds crazy, but I know there are other people who feel this way too. If so, please feel free to share your experiences with "The People's Smartphone".

I would agree, I've had mine for over a year. Sure I want a new phone but nothing out has made me want to get rid of my evo yet.
We're comin from a pure power source.

Ahhh, to reminisce..
The EVO was my very first smartphone. I came from a LG Rumor. My EVO is still my daily driver. I got mine on Aug. 3rd 2010, just a couple months after its release. I got into the root and mod scene a few months after that.
The EVO is definately a historical device. It was the first for so many things. Most notibly for me was it was the first iPhone killer. The first real offering for iDevice haters like myself.
I have a lot of good memories with my EVO. It'll remain my current device until my contract is fullfilled. Reason being so I can carrier unlock it and continue to use it for whatever I want thereafter. Even without service it still makes a great mini tablet on wifi lol. I'll keep my EVO and use it for as long as it runs. The day it dies will be a sad day; however I still wont get rid of it lol. It'll make a snazzy paperweight! Maybe I'll make a shrine for it haha -shrugs-
I've babied my EVO so much that it still looks like it did the day it came out of the box. Not a scratch or ding on it. Still looks and performs new!

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Ahhh, to reminisce..
The EVO was my very first smartphone. I came from a LG Rumor. My EVO is still my daily driver. I got mine on Aug. 3rd 2010, just a couple months after its release. I got into the root and mod scene a few months after that.
The EVO is definately a historical device. It was the first for so many things. Most notibly for me was it was the first iPhone killer. The first real offering for iDevice haters like myself.
I have a lot of good memories with my EVO. It'll remain my current device until my contract is fullfilled. Reason being so I can carrier unlock it and continue to use it for whatever I want thereafter. Even without service it still makes a great mini tablet on wifi lol. I'll keep my EVO and use it for as long as it runs. The day it dies will be a sad day; however I still wont get rid of it lol. It'll make a snazzy paperweight! Maybe I'll make a shrine for it haha -shrugs-
I've babied my EVO so much that it still looks like it did the day it came out of the box. Not a scratch or ding on it. Still looks and performs new!
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+1 to all of that. +1000 for the EVO being the 1st iPhone killer!

Wife and I decided to fire AT&T, sold both of our iphone 3s, got our Evo 4Gs and never looked back. +1 to all the comments so far. Sent a lot of data through this bad boy via 3G, Wifi and sdcard.. now have 5 Roms loaded on it at once and switch with a single reboot.. simply amazing.
It will be a sad day when they hang on our Christmas tree though.

I both mine in September 2010 , from that time I burn two of them (sprint sponsored) . This is my the third one.
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You know something else I love about this phone.. even tho it's EOL and no longer in production; it is still technologically superior to 95% of the current offerings available.
Yes it has a single-core processor, and has half the RAM and ROM space available compared to many top-notch phones today. Take for instance tho the screen size and resolution, and it's 8MP camera. Most current phones can't beat it.
The EVO is aging, but it can still hold it's own. And of the EVO family of devices, it's second to only the 3D when it comes to performance and features in my opinion.
There's just so much to rave about when it comes to our beloved classic EVOs. It really set the standard for top-of-the-line smartphones, and it set that standard very high. HTC forever has a fan in me.

So what is a 10 month old EVO actually worth today? Its an 8-9 on a scale of 1-10.

I gotta give props to the OG. I had mine for almost a year and gave it to my daughter when I got my 3D. She rocks it and absolutely loves it to death. It is still beast.

Glockshooter said:
So what is a 10 month old EVO actually worth today? Its an 8-9 on a scale of 1-10.
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Unlocked they go for $300+ on eBay. $200+ otherwise. They're retaining their value nicely..

what makes the 3d better? well besides that its 3d

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what makes the 3d better? well besides that its 3d
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Dual core 1gb of ram
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Dual core 1gb of ram
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Yup, and that's about the extent of it too other than the higher DPI LCD. Here's a little screenshot I took directly from the HTC website.
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And here's one I took from over at pdadb.net's comparer. 3D stats on left, 4G on right.

My Evo
I rather enjoy my Evo as well. Only reason i'm considering upgrading is to get dual core action. There are some good dev's making roms and stuff for this phone still too. I think this phone is going to get plenty of action for a long time

absolutely the "People's Smartphone"..for a long time during the Windows Mobile days I would switch phones endlessly. The Evo is the only phone to hold my attention for so long. For me, it's not just the device. It's the community. The tweaking. The endless hours of fun on the couch just goofing around with this thing. It's a cheap hobby. Major props to all the fantastic Devs that keep this thing alive and major props to the rest of us that keep this community one of the most active on XDA.

I agree... I had the Hero and I thought that HTC couldn't build a phone, then I got the Evo. It is a stable and powerful phone still. It will be interesting to see what comes up next. They will have to top the Evo, which will be pretty sweet phone.

All hail the legendary EVO LOL sure newer phones are better but none blew the phone world by storm like the EVO did when it first came out
I remember when one web site called it "knight in shining armor", and "iPhone killer"
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sharkboy0901 said:
All hail the legendary EVO LOL sure newer phones are better but none blew the phone world by storm like the EVO did when it first came out
I remember when one web site called it "knight in shining armor", and "iPhone killer"
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+1 Have to agree. I also remember when they said we would get 4G Wimax and take all news releases and commercials from Sprint with a grain of salt.
Still best phone and service I have ever had.. bar none

sharkboy0901 said:
All hail the legendary EVO LOL sure newer phones are better but none blew the phone world by storm like the EVO did when it first came out
I remember when one web site called it "knight in shining armor", and "iPhone killer"
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agreed, sprint & HTC FAILED for EOL this phone

Keyz450 said:
agreed, sprint & HTC FAILED for EOL this phone
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I wouldn't say they failed, it's just a part of business. Consumers en masse want the "next best thing" you know how it goes. So you gotta fill business contracts, get people buying the new stuff, new stuff equals new accessories, new contracts etc etc.
It's a beast of a phone and can still hang with lots of devices today, it's just gotten a little long in the tooth. I honestly think after my daughter runs through my old Evo, my son will get it. I'm sure it will still be a winner in a year or two.Natural progression my man, it is what it is.
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What you guys always wanted

Too bad its not from sprint
http://tinyurl.com/d7t5qzc
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Looks like the og galaxy s as a slider. I don't know for sure but that looks like a 4 inch screen, and for me that's too small. Even my photons screen feels small at 4.3 inches.
Oh how I miss my physical keyboard on my epic
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It's funny that the Epic is a 700 model number and that is 699.
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It's funny that the Epic is a 700 model number and that is 699.
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Nice catch
And I wouldn't mind an epic with a 720p display
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heres another one. a moto sprint slider.
http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-working-ics-slider-sprint?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter

austin420 said:
heres another one. a moto sprint slider.
http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-working-ics-slider-sprint?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
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Assuming this is a qHD screen as the article suggests, how does that stack up against the newest Samsung screens.
Thanks to the Epic, I have grown to HATE Samsung. They have shown their true colors when it comes to software updates and I want out. The Epic development community is truly awesome, but it is a shame that we have to rely on non-paid people to make this phone what it should be. That said, I find Samsung hardware to be very nice.

i dont think i could ever get a moto phone. they are the most locked down of the three major android oems. i will prolly always buy samsung just because of the completely unlocked bootloaders and because they have a utility like odin.

@austin
That phone is pretty sexy though imo. To bad it's motorola, but it's probably the photon Q.
To OP the button on the bottom seems tacky to me, I love our lit up one. And the keyboard is so spacy, ;/
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Thanks to the Epic, I have grown to HATE Samsung. They have shown their true colors when it comes to software updates and I want out.
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I disagree with you there.
I will freely admit that the delay on FroYo was terrible and ridiculous, when FroYo was rolling out the SGSII still wasn't released, and they had already promised it to us. But Gingerbread was a courtesy. They had a new generation of smartphone running around and they only anted up due to demand. And the whole complying with what Sprint wanted. I blame them. Sprint that is. So I don't think you can rag on Samsung for that one.
And if the Epic Touch 4G is any indicator, it looks like there is one dude working on these builds. They're slow. Fact. But frankly, as long as the end user knows it's being worked on, they should be happy. Especially with the speed they already have. He's doing his best I'm sure. Poor little Samsung man.
PLUS. More room for developers to step in and make the ****ty software they're stuck with better. Case and point: Epic 4G. And without the delays I wouldn't know what I know.

Milkman00 said:
Assuming this is a qHD screen as the article suggests, how does that stack up against the newest Samsung screens.
Thanks to the Epic, I have grown to HATE Samsung. They have shown their true colors when it comes to software updates and I want out. The Epic development community is truly awesome, but it is a shame that we have to rely on non-paid people to make this phone what it should be. That said, I find Samsung hardware to be very nice.
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Samsung Equals Better Updates not this phone but in General
HTC equals updates daily and all of which are ****tier and annoying I rather wait for an update and be successful again not this phone but Samsung in General.
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If it's a slider, I would consider it if the rest of the hardware is up to par once it's released (and Sprint LTE is out & delivers). Motos are very locked down, have non-removable batteries, have worse screen res and are easy to brick during root/flash process if it goes wrong. Definitely prefer Samsung here, but with no sliders on the horizon this phone warrants some consideration. On the plus side, Moto phone batteries tend to have more up-front Mah, radios are generally better and somehow the fastboot files always seem to leak and devs are able to make root stick. Moto is also very slow to update its phones but wife's Droid 2, released later than Epic got its GB update 3 months before we did and also had good dev support in forms of CM9 and AOKP.

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i dont think i could ever get a moto phone. they are the most locked down of the three major android oems. i will prolly always buy samsung just because of the completely unlocked bootloaders and because they have a utility like odin.
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I agree motorola is very locked down, in the photon forums people who underwent the official motorola soak update test they got permanently locked in a new way. I am unlocked fortunately and there is a good dev community so I am happy with my photon. I hope it is an improved qHD display because mine is definitely not on par with the epic's screen. I really hope they put the S4 processor in it because that would be nice. This is probably the rumored photon q, q most likely standing for qwerty. Also makes alot of sense why the epic just went EOL. We also have a very similar utility like odin its called sbf.
When my upgrade comes in december I am all over this.
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But Gingerbread was a courtesy. They had a new generation of smartphone running around and they only anted up due to demand.
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Why??? The hardware could handle it, and the phone wasn't EOL. Getting software updates on phones that aren't EOL should be a no brainer. I shouldn't have to upgrade my hardware just to get new software, UNLESS the hardware can't handle the new software. These aren't FREE phones. We pay quite a bit of money for these phones. Getting some major software releases should be part of the deal.
I think the EOL thing is semantics anyway TBH. The software always lists the minimum requirements in order to run it adequately on hardware, if the hardware can support it, these manufacturers need to be supporting their customers AFTER the sale, and not just for 6 months after the sale.
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And if the Epic Touch 4G is any indicator, it looks like there is one dude working on these builds. They're slow. Fact. But frankly, as long as the end user knows it's being worked on, they should be happy.
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This is not my problem. I should not be two levels of software behind, because they are greedy and don't want to hire the correct number of people to maintain their hardware. Why should I be happy with wayyyyyyyyyyyy subpar customer service??? It is sad what society considers "acceptable" from companies these days (customer service out of India is the first thing that comes to mind).
I am not looking for new versions of software the day that Google releases them, but if they can run on our hardware, I expect them in relatively short order.
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I have been burned by Samsung TWO OUT OF TWO times now. Once on our Epic, and the other on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 which is STILL running Honeycomb. My complaints about Samsung stem further than just our phone.

The only reason why the Epic wasn't on the EOL list, was because it was the only high-end qwerty phone. Since Moto is making a high-end qwerty phone with ICs for sprint the Epic can r.i.p.
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Psh no they still keep this phone
It'll still be the best QWERTY slider for a while
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Let's keep the new phone discussions in the new phone thread.
Thanks
FNM
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