i got a feeling t-mobile and htc aren't that serious about this phone. but since im still withing my 14 day, im gonna cancel my 2year contract, dust off my trusty g1 and go pre-paid while i wait and see how this goes. on a sidenote. i think its sad that t-mobile, who brought out the first android phone that started the whole frenzy of bringing iphone and RIM to their knees does not embrace their android devices. especially since they brought out a successor, it was just another phone to them i guess. i mean in comparison to apples iphone and att, and motorolas droid line-up and verizon, sprint and their evo. t-mobile and..... and.... wtf???
Wtf? Is all I have to say. Y r so many dumb ppl posting
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Wtf? Is all I have to say. Y r so many dumb ppl posting
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dont get mad. be happy
hurry up n return it. stop telling us how you feel, its a phone. if u don't like it return it.
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Wtf? Is all I have to say. Y r so many dumb ppl posting
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this.
you attention whores should just log off and go away.
uh oh is this the part where i get bullied off the internet and i write a sucide note and kill myself??? nah not likely
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uh oh is this the part where i get bullied off the internet and i write a sucide note and kill myself??? nah not likely
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We're just messing with you. If you're really unsatisfied with the G2 and seeing how you really like the other phones with other carriers why not get an HD2? Off-contract of course through craigslist. You can put just about any build into it. They're dirt cheap, like $200. Until t-mobile releases more to your liking.
LOL! Nice.
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hurry up n return it. stop telling us how you feel, its a phone. if u don't like it return it.
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He got all rights to tell us how he feel, that's why forums exists wtf is wrong with yu what are a dictarorship?, don't tell others to return it yu aren't their parents, its up to them if they feel like it or not, I'm also disappointed on the phones hardware the weak ass hinges but I'm gonna wait for solution from htc I'm sure they'll solve that issue, so I'm not going to return it.
G1 was junk, no way
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G1 was junk, no way
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No way in anyway was the G1 junk. That phone paved the road for Android, Rooting, and everything else. I still love the G1.
G2 is by far the best phone out for android. My personal opinion is it craps on the vibrant which is its only close competitor. As far as the g1.... only reason id see you going back is if your the type of person who loves to flash roms constantly... the g2 stock is just as good as roms I've loaded. Its very tolerable to me and I usually hate stock android. But soon devs will have perm root (gl guys!) and we will be able to get our roms back all in due time. Could you imagine the g2 with custom firmware? This thing is a beast on stock froyo.... so go figure.
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did t-mobile hurt your feelings im sorry...... i dont think they care as long as you pay them every month but here you go a sad song
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No way in anyway was the G1 junk. That phone paved the road for Android, Rooting, and everything else. I still love the G1.
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well anything would have been rough being on the ground floor for android and Abd like that, this is true, but, that was some jacked up hardware, hinges, trackball, and keybboard, u gotta admit. Felt like Shat in your hand
I sold my rooted (and only rooted, nothing else) G1 to some idiot I work with in the army for 150 bucks.... last week. Oh, I hooked him up with some badass stock apps too like amazon mp3. And a high end bodyglove hard case that tmobile had on sale for 1.99.
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No way in anyway was the G1 junk. That phone paved the road for Android, Rooting, and everything else. I still love the G1.
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I still like my G1, but now my son is enjoying it with CM 6.1
I'm not sure why so many are frustrated with the G2. I'm really loving it!
To each their own. I was happy to have been part of Android since it's beginning. But Verizon really marketed the Android phone, which would save T-Mobile a lot of marketing expenses to help familiarize people with the brand. Still, T-Mobile needs more advertising for this phone and not those dumb ads aimed at Moms.
I feel insulted.
T-Mobile should have reclaimed the G2 as a successer to the orignal with better hardware (dual core, and FF camera) and features to solidify their place as the Android King, because Verizon is stealing it.
Even though I think Android will peak by the next 2 iterations, it's downhill from there. If T-Mobile doesn't make it's position known as the king of the OS, then it's going to be downhill for them.
Next iteration of phone MUST implement the dual core processsor and more features to make this a top of the line phone. I don't want a phone that runs slower (stock G2) than an already released phone like the Galaxy S.
Step it up T-Mobile, this is my warning to you if you want to stay alive after Q1 FY11. Operations over there must be changing their target audience to Moms. Not good my friend T-Mobile... not good. Unfortunately their smartphone audience that is keeping them afloat are Android lovers and devs and the ability for us to grandfather data plans.
Be the first to release the dual core processor phone, with a projector, and front facing camera. Be the first!!! Be the first to come out with something spectaculary new, and you wont need to worry about marketing as much.
Then you can let Verizon market it for you by releasing a phone of their own with similar features. Once they set their prices, with your limited budget, you will advertise your phone with those features for less money.
Then you'll be all set. Thanks T-Mo and thanks OP for letting me ramble in your thread.
I loved the G1... the hinges made it pretty awesome and unique in my opinion. The keyboard was also pretty awesome... I go through hundreds of SMS a day and it made is so comfortable.
Still getting used to the G2... I like it so far except for the lack of FFC and weak hinges but hey what can I do about that.
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G2 is by far the best phone out for android. My personal opinion is it craps on the vibrant which is its only close competitor. As far as the g1.... only reason id see you going back is if your the type of person who loves to flash roms constantly... the g2 stock is just as good as roms I've loaded. Its very tolerable to me and I usually hate stock android. But soon devs will have perm root (gl guys!) and we will be able to get our roms back all in due time. Could you imagine the g2 with custom firmware? This thing is a beast on stock froyo.... so go figure.
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I really like most Android Phones but disagree the G2 is the best Android Phone. I just dropped VZW for T-Mobile. My Droid X was just as nice if not better than the G2. I picked up the HD2 but now miss Android. So I am thinking about doing the G2 or MT 4G.
In the end he has his opinion but when it comes to prepaid the 3G coverage drops to a smaller area in my area.
As for the G1 I wasn't a big fan of the phone and the G2 is a far superior look and operating phone.
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Alright, like everyone else, I have grown tired of all the complaining about the 2.1 update. Yes, I would love to get my hands on the official update as I feel our 2.1 leak was pretty buggy. The devs have done great with what they have to work with, and I love running 2.1 even with some of the quirks that are inherent to a hacked ROM.
What I don't get is how everyone can be so upset with Sprint. Personally, I am on Sprint because they are cheap, and offer good cell phone service where I live. That's it. If you are upset with your carrier (as I was with my extremely high bills on Verizon) then buy out your contract and go to another carrier. However, don't expect that you will get your magical 2.1 upgrade any sooner with any other carrier.
Do most people realize that there is not a single Android phone for sale in America that has ever been upgraded to 2.1 from 1.5 or 1.6? In fact, there are only three phones that have ever even received an Android OS upgrade at all. The T-Mobile G1 (1.0-1.6), the T-Mobile myTouch 3G (1.5-1.6), and the Motorola Droid (2.0-2.1). That's it people.
For all the people blaming Sprint, HTC, or even Sense for how long it's taking them, look around. The T-Mobile G1 and myTouch3G both came out before the Hero, both run vanilla Andoid, and neither of them have been upgraded to 2.1. Just look at all the phones that are still running 1.5 and 1.6.
Personally, I think it will be hilarious if Sprint is the first carrier in America to upgrade a phone from 1.5 to 2.1. If this upgrade happens soon, this will certainly be the case. I just don't get how people can be so upset that we don't have the official 2.1 yet when there are only three phones that have it (two of which launched with it, and one of which launched with 2.0).
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I Gotta say that no one should be PO'D at Sprint,HTC or any other company for that matter, Sprint is the Best carrier I've been. Quit whining 2.1 will arrive before you all know it. Shut up root your hero while you still can flash a custom 2.1 rom and be happy. i Know im not gonna to upgrade to the official release. Ill wait to one my fav dev's puts out a 2.1 rom based off the otw upgrade with all fat trimmed off so it runs the way it should. So everybody behave your selves the upgrade from sprint will come no doubt, then you can go back to whining about how laggy and buggy your 2.1 hero is.
As for me Im gonna flash toast's new one fresh-toast 1.1, oh maybe something from damageless, oh hey darchstar's got a new one wow decision, decisions, lol
Thanks for doing this.
This definitively shows that the problem is not with Sprint and that manufacturers seem to have decided that there is no benefit to them whatsoever to supporting existing customers. Google is also failing to get the situation under control.
"Want the latest version of Android? Pay up."
That's what this chart says to me, loud and clear.
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I agree upgrade to the latest EVO 4G anyone
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I agree that people should stop whining about 2.1, it's more annoying than the 2.1 posts.
I guess my personal aggravation is the fact that it seems if you don't have the latest and greatest phone through your carrier's catalog you seem to just be cast in the corner. Was it not just 5 months ago the Hero was the savior and pride and joy of sprint's network and now with the evo on its way it's as if were the red headed child sitting in the corner. I agree that when it comes it comes but I just don't like the feel a company gives when they do something like that. Yes market and pay attention to your new toy but don't forget your loyal followers and their needs when we're locked in to at least 12 months with a phone you just called the greatest thing since the last big hit.
Its always been the same with every OS and every carrier. I remember being wint Windows same thing, these company make the money in the hardware not software therefore it's no business sense to give a great deal of support for older hardware. The truth of the matter is that for companies like HTC, people will continue to purchase the latest, even after all the waiting on the Hero most people will still go out and get the Evo. The only company making great support is Apple.
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I Gotta say that no one should be PO'D at Sprint,HTC or any other company for that matter, Sprint is the Best carrier I've been. Quit whining 2.1 will arrive before you all know it. Shut up root your hero while you still can flash a custom 2.1 rom and be happy. i Know im not gonna to upgrade to the official release. Ill wait to one my fav dev's puts out a 2.1 rom based off the otw upgrade with all fat trimmed off so it runs the way it should. So everybody behave your selves the upgrade from sprint will come no doubt, then you can go back to whining about how laggy and buggy your 2.1 hero is.
As for me Im gonna flash toast's new one fresh-toast 1.1, oh maybe something from damageless, oh hey darchstar's got a new one wow decision, decisions, lol
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X2 This is what I think too.
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Alright, like everyone else, I have grown tired of all the complaining about the 2.1 update. Yes, I would love to get my hands on the official update as I feel our 2.1 leak was pretty buggy. The devs have done great with what they have to work with, and I love running 2.1 even with some of the quirks that are inherent to a hacked ROM.
What I don't get is how everyone can be so upset with Sprint. Personally, I am on Sprint because they are cheap, and offer good cell phone service where I live. That's it. If you are upset with your carrier (as I was with my extremely high bills on Verizon) then buy out your contract and go to another carrier. However, don't expect that you will get your magical 2.1 upgrade any sooner with any other carrier.
Do most people realize that there is not a single Android phone for sale in America that has ever been upgraded to 2.1 from 1.5 or 1.6? In fact, there are only three phones that have ever even received an Android OS upgrade at all. The T-Mobile G1 (1.0-1.6), the T-Mobile myTouch 3G (1.5-1.6), and the Motorola Droid (2.0-2.1). That's it people.
For all the people blaming Sprint, HTC, or even Sense for how long it's taking them, look around. The T-Mobile G1 and myTouch3G both came out before the Hero, both run vanilla Andoid, and neither of them have been upgraded to 2.1. Just look at all the phones that are still running 1.5 and 1.6.
Personally, I think it will be hilarious if Sprint is the first carrier in America to upgrade a phone from 1.5 to 2.1. If this upgrade happens soon, this will certainly be the case. I just don't get how people can be so upset that we don't have the official 2.1 yet when there are only three phones that have it (two of which launched with it, and one of which launched with 2.0).
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sprint still sucks Di** in my opinion, 2.1 or not
I will tell you why I am upset with sprint over this. It's because sprint in conjunction with HTC and Samsung decided back late last year that instead of doing maintenance updates to fix the known issues with both phones they would upgrade the phones to 2.1 and include the fixes then. This certainly implied some urgency on their part. But apparently none of the companies involved put enough resources into the upgrade. Also this fantasy of doing both phones at the same time tells me they are not interested in getting the updates out as soon as they are available because someone might be upset if one gets done before the other.
I rooted back in Jan and my phone works great. But I also expect when I buy a premium phone that it is supported properly by Sprint and the phone manufactures. If they can't do that then they have failed. I don't care if no other phone has been upgraded to 2.1. Every other carrier in the US has a phone that runs 2.1 yet sprint can't even give us a date to have that option. They have really screwed this up.
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I guess my personal aggravation is the fact that it seems if you don't have the latest and greatest phone through your carrier's catalog you seem to just be cast in the corner. Was it not just 5 months ago the Hero was the savior and pride and joy of sprint's network and now with the evo on its way it's as if were the red headed child sitting in the corner. I agree that when it comes it comes but I just don't like the feel a company gives when they do something like that. Yes market and pay attention to your new toy but don't forget your loyal followers and their needs when we're locked in to at least 12 months with a phone you just called the greatest thing since the last big hit.
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Always seems like putting money in a salespersons hand causes them amnesia....
Just think of SPRINT as a REALLY BIG salesperson
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Always seems like putting money in a salespersons hand causes them amnesia....
Just think of SPRINT as a REALLY BIG salesperson
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Well since I don't go to salespersons who don't in some way look after my interests that would mean that I wouldn't go back to Sprint. I have no intention of doing that. Sprint provides a quality service at an affordable price. They just can't afford to continue to make mistakes like this or they will continue their decline until they are out of business and I don't want to see that happen.
it's the old "fire and forget" routine.
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"Want the latest version of Android? Pay up."
That's what this chart says to me, loud and clear.
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How?????
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I updated the chart with the type of custom user interfaces run on the various phones in case it has any effect on rolling out OS upgrades.
Ziggy,
Excellent points, thanks for the perspective
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Ziggy,
Excellent points, thanks for the perspective
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Thanks for that.
Completely off topic, but has anyone ever actually had to say "TouchWiz" out loud to someone?
Talk about the worst product name ever. I don't think I could buy a phone with that UI on it, simply because I would be too embarrassed to actually tell anyone that I was playing with my "TouchWiz".
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I will tell you why I am upset with sprint over this. It's because sprint in conjunction with HTC and Samsung decided back late last year that instead of doing maintenance updates to fix the known issues with both phones they would upgrade the phones to 2.1 and include the fixes then. This certainly implied some urgency on their part. But apparently none of the companies involved put enough resources into the upgrade. Also this fantasy of doing both phones at the same time tells me they are not interested in getting the updates out as soon as they are available because someone might be upset if one gets done before the other.
I rooted back in Jan and my phone works great. But I also expect when I buy a premium phone that it is supported properly by Sprint and the phone manufactures. If they can't do that then they have failed. I don't care if no other phone has been upgraded to 2.1. Every other carrier in the US has a phone that runs 2.1 yet sprint can't even give us a date to have that option. They have really screwed this up.
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What the hell? AT&Fee doesn't have a 2.1 device and neither does T-Mobile really. They have the Nexus One, but it is not sold in stores and with all the hardware and software issues, it's not worth mentioning. The only carrier with any 2.1 devices is Verizon and that is just as of now. The MT3G, EVO, and other devices are well on the way.
think of it this way... you're gonna want to run Froyo when it comes out anyway & NO WAY is Sprint or HTC gonna bother with an official upgrade for that. They'll be pushing the EVO/Next Big Thing. Thank goodness for the great developers working on stuff here.
Honestly I like being the only person I know that has a Nexus one. I'm not sure why some people are complaining about the Nexus one not getting the attention it deserves, i prefer to be the only person in my group of friends that have one because it makes me feel special :] lol and really though I don't want it to become the next Walmart of phones like the iphone. How do you all feel? Basically I like that the Nexus one is not in retail stores.
I'm not sure how the Nexus one is "exclusive".
It's available on both At&t and T-Mobile, even more than the iphone. It's just that not a lot of people want to buy an unsubsidized phone.
well I'm talking about the fact that it isn't in retail stores.
I don't want it to become the next Walmart of phones like the iphone.
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What exactly do you mean by that?
And I wish the Nexus one had a little more advertising, and was rolled out to other carriers faster. Everyone I know has still only ever heard of the Nexus one from me having it.
(I wish more people knew about the N1 while the Motorola Droid stole the spotlight)
What I mean is the iphone is so common it is basically the definition of a smart phone, don't get me wrong I want android to get publicity and gain fans, but I just like being one of the few that had one. To me the android os is more of a tech savvy phone while the iphone is mainstream.
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What I mean is the iphone is so common it is basically the definition of a smart phone, don't get me wrong I want android to get publicity and gain fans, but I just like being one of the few that had one. To me the android os is more of a tech savvy phone while the iphone is mainstream.
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Like what many said, it's probably because of advertising.
Because I don't think you need to be a tech geek to fully experience android. It's just that it's a lot more customizable. To me it's as easy to use as the iphone os.
Jackasaur said:
What I mean is the iphone is so common it is basically the definition of a smart phone, don't get me wrong I want android to get publicity and gain fans, but I just like being one of the few that had one. To me the android os is more of a tech savvy phone while the iphone is mainstream.
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The more N1 sales there are the more long term support it will get. I get a little worried about Google saying that its tired of dealing with whining customers and bad press and just drops the N1 completely to focus on Android...
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Like what many said, it's probably because of advertising.
Because I don't think you need to be a tech geek to fully experience android. It's just that it's a lot more customizable. To me it's as easy to use as the iphone os.
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Yes, I know the iphone is a lot smoother and easier to use, and therefore it's a more mainstream device, but I know in the long run as Google gets going the Android OS will probably topple the iPhone OS, because the iPhone OS did have a bit more time than Android. We'll see though, I really hope Froyo makes android as smooth and responsive as a iPhone.
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The more N1 sales there are the more long term support it will get. I get a little worried about Google saying that its tired of dealing with whining customers and bad press and just drops the N1 completely to focus on Android...
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I think that Google could do better in support for the Nexus one, I've walked around the boards on the Nexus one page and there doesn't seem to be much being resolved or fixed. I know Google is new to this, but eventually they'll get it right, lets just hope it'll happens soon.
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Yes, I know the iphone is a lot smoother and easier to use, and therefore it's a more mainstream device, but I know in the long run as Google gets going the Android OS will probably topple the iPhone OS, because the iPhone OS did have a bit more time than Android. We'll see though, I really hope Froyo makes android as smooth and responsive as a iPhone.
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LOL In my household, ASIDE from my N1, there are all the current flavors of iphone - 2G, 3G, and 3GS, and my Nexus One blows them all away in terms of smoothness, responsiveness, and speed, so I'm not sure what else you're wanting here. Even the iphone isn't as fast as its commercials would have you believe (go figure, eh?), but the Nexus One is handily faster.
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LOL In my household, ASIDE from my N1, there are all the current flavors of iphone - 2G, 3G, and 3GS, and my Nexus One blows them all away in terms of smoothness, responsiveness, and speed, so I'm not sure what else you're wanting here. Even the iphone isn't as fast as its commercials would have you believe (go figure, eh?), but the Nexus One is handily faster.
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Well I've owned 2 iPhones, and the smoothness I'm talking about is when you're moving from one home screen to another, and the responsiveness I'm talking about is sometimes the screen tweaks out and I have to put it to sleep and then it'll be fine. But Yeah I've compared the speed of my Nexus One with my friends iPhone 3GS, that thing is nothing compared to my N1. :]
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Honestly I like being the only person I know that has a Nexus one. I'm not sure why some people are complaining about the Nexus one not getting the attention it deserves, i prefer to be the only person in my group of friends that have one because it makes me feel special :] lol and really though I don't want it to become the next Walmart of phones like the iphone. How do you all feel? Basically I like that the Nexus one is not in retail stores.
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What to do? Google is not big on mainstream advertising. I guess hope rested on word of mouth within the tech community. Most tech outlets covered the phone, again just limited reach.
I love the "exclusivity"! A lot of people who I've encoutnered are always like "woah! is that a nexus one?!"
The Nexus One is like a mythical creature; a lot of people have heard about it, but not many people know how to capture/get one.
Back in the day, the iPhone used to be the epitome of all great phones, but now everyone has one so no one really cares anymore
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I love the "exclusivity"! A lot of people who I've encoutnered are always like "woah! is that a nexus one?!"
The Nexus One is like a mythical creature; a lot of people have heard about it, but not many people know how to capture/get one.
Back in the day, the iPhone used to be the epitome of all great phones, but now everyone has one so no one really cares anymore
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I know right? lol Whenever I meet someone they are always like "Dude let my see that wallpaper thing where you can press on it and colors shoot out" people see it on Youtube, but never played with one, so I like being the guy that has a Nexus one instead of an iPhone like all my other friends
I'd like to be one of the few to own a Nexus One but this has a downside. Less people owning it means lesser development of apps....
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I'd like to be one of the few to own a Nexus One but this has a downside. Less people owning it means lesser development of apps....
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And lesser chance of future support...
faraz1992 said:
I'd like to be one of the few to own a Nexus One but this has a downside. Less people owning it means lesser development of apps....
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This makes no sense whatsoever. Android is not based off of simply one phone, it is an ecosystem of phones. One Android device not getting as much attention as the other will not effect the speed at which the market grows.
Then there is the fact the Google has been passing out this phone to developers for quite some time, popular apps such as "SkyFire" are demoed on the Nexus. Along with things like Flash. Hypothetically, it is Google's Android Developer Phone 3.. well 2 I believe.
I got a colleague who's pretty sick of his iphones. Been jailbreaking the **** out of them and he's totally bored. Kept giving me those "I'm sick of iphone and u got a cool nexus one" looks. Mwahahaha.
But seriously, I hope Google doesn't cast the Nexus One aside anytime in the near future.
God I'm sick of reading posts about the Nexus One being "phased out" on here. To the people that just bought their first smartphone, and want it to last for (at least) a year, maybe you're better off going to the Apple camp.
And why are people *****ing about "support"? We will be getting Android updates... Plus we have warranties no matter what new phones Google releases...
/facepalm
I like my EVO very much, best device that I had and last me more then any other phone in the market(besides iPhone) and there is one thing the bugs the hell out of me tho and is fragmentation, specially this week, we got another EVO, epic and a shift 4G(all good phones btw) in our family but since I rooted mine and I was running cm7 and the stock Evo has sense so I forgot how different they are when you use them, trying to explain something was a pain in the butt so I have to flash a sense rom to give them the right direction(person the got the EVO came from blackberry and he was lost of what to do) , well after that I'm at work and someone had a mytouch (original) and still diference , the worse part is the moto, Sammy and HTC all use different layout in buttons! Why don't they have a set up one for all Google devices? ?? I mean the EVO makes more sense to me but for my friend thinks the epic does, this is something the Google should have control from the beggining, like I said I love Android but some stuff needs to changed
I have an iPhone3GS as well and if a iPhone 4 user asked me about settings or set ups is the same but if someone ask me how to use the mail app in HTC EVO with sense is different from the email app he aosp roms come with, I know how to do it no problem for me but a lot new comers are having problem with this kind of problems . I help that much the I can
And lets no talk about updates to new version cause that's another crazy topic, man the hero got 2.1 after almost 6 months and that was it, the epic (power phone) got official froyo 6 months later, and all those little android devices lmade by LG, Samsung, etc will probably never get froyo or gingerbread .
Anyways Gizmodo just published this article about Android fragmentation and it looks like finally Google will work on it
http://m.gizmodo.com/5787565/google-finally-fights-back-against-android-fragmentation
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Man I hope so.
I have no problems with putting a "skin" over top of android, but, it HAS to be a limit. This is a prefect way for Google to slap back at the companies that are or are getting ready to lock their phones down (HTC! ><).
It is definitely getting out of hand and needs to be put in check for the sake of Android.
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Man I hope so.
I have no problems with putting a "skin" over top of android, but, it HAS to be a limit. This is a prefect way for Google to slap back at the companies that are or are getting ready to lock their phones down (HTC! ><).
It is definitely getting out of hand and needs to be put in check for the sake of Android.
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The skin is all good but like tethering it should be free for all froyo and all carriers block it, 4G tethering is nice when it works but I do t use it enough to pay so that's one of the reason I rooted
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I don't really see your argument. Yeah fragmentation sucks, but to the average Joe it doesn't mattter. The example you used of your rooted EVO was terrible. Your EVO, had it not been modified by you would look and be exactly the same as your friends brand new EVO.
The majority of people don't even know what version of Android their phone is running. They don't even know there is a new version available until their phone tells them its time to update.
Androids fragmentation has improved greatly with the release of froyo. It becomes a double edged sword when it comes to OEMs having the ability to modify Android. It gives us consumers choice, at the expense of receiving slower updates. The problem is people need to vote with their wallets if they want change. People are voting with their wallets because they are buying phones with motoblur, sense, and touchwiz.
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I don't really see your argument. Yeah fragmentation sucks, but to the average Joe it doesn't mattter. The example you used of your rooted EVO was terrible. Your EVO, had it not been modified by you would look and be exactly the same as your friends brand new EVO.
The majority of people don't even know what version of Android their phone is running. They don't even know there is a new version available until their phone tells them its time to update.
Androids fragmentation has improved greatly with the release of froyo. It becomes a double edged sword when it comes to OEMs having the ability to modify Android. It gives us consumers choice, at the expense of receiving slower updates. The problem is people need to vote with their wallets if they want change. People are voting with their wallets because they are buying phones with motoblur, sense, and touchwiz.
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People are buying phones with motoblur, sense and touchwiz because for the majority.. that's all there is.
Where are the phones with Vanilla Android? Not everyone has access to a Nexus S or even knows what the difference is. That is definitely why Google needs to step in and show what Android really is.
Skins/UI's are fine and choice is always great. It just needs to be done in a cleaner, less bloated way. I really hope google reins it in a little bit..
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I like my EVO very much, best device that I had and last me more then any other phone in the market(besides iPhone) and there is one thing the bugs the hell out of me tho and is fragmentation, specially this week, we got another EVO, epic and a shift 4G(all good phones btw) in our family but since I rooted mine and I was running cm7 and the stock Evo has sense so I forgot how different they are when you use them, trying to explain something was a pain in the butt so I have to flash a sense rom to give them the right direction(person the got the EVO came from blackberry and he was lost of what to do) , well after that I'm at work and someone had a mytouch (original) and still diference , the worse part is the moto, Sammy and HTC all use different layout in buttons! Why don't they have a set up one for all Google devices? ?? I mean the EVO makes more sense to me but for my friend thinks the epic does, this is something the Google should have control from the beggining, like I said I love Android but some stuff needs to changed
I have an iPhone3GS as well and if a iPhone 4 user asked me about settings or set ups is the same but if someone ask me how to use the mail app in HTC EVO with sense is different from the email app he aosp roms come with, I know how to do it no problem for me but a lot new comers are having problem with this kind of problems . I help that much the I can
And lets no talk about updates to new version cause that's another crazy topic, man the hero got 2.1 after almost 6 months and that was it, the epic (power phone) got official froyo 6 months later, and all those little android devices lmade by LG, Samsung, etc will probably never get froyo or gingerbread .
Anyways Gizmodo just published this article about Android fragmentation and it looks like finally Google will work on it
http://m.gizmodo.com/5787565/google-finally-fights-back-against-android-fragmentation
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actually, from home screen, menu button, settings, scroll to accounts/sync enter it in the same way on every phone
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People are voting with their wallets because they are buying phones with motoblur, sense, and touchwiz.
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normally, I would agree with this statement, except this:
MOST people don't choose to go to a carrier because of a phone (or skin on said phone), they already have a carrier they have a relationship with, and get whatever phone the rep says is "the best thing right now", and "hey, it's an android!", without knowing what that really means.
then they often find that the phone they purchased has very little in common with their friends android, diminishing the inclusiveness a shared brand should have. (think iphone) among other things mentioned previously like support, updates, etc.
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Yeah well is just diferrent stuff Guys be open minded on what people wants, I know most here like to work for our phone and I say this cause we flash, modify, and do all sort of crazy stuff and I like it but no everyone is like that some people want something the works for them, a smartphone should help you to make your life easier and replace multiple devices, books and sometimes aagendas and to get this experience right Google needs to step up and make it happen(gingerbread got the copy and paste updated and works better then froyo or eclair) , HTC is clearly the first one going the right direction with sense and then everybody thought they have something better like motoblur and touchwiz and just makes a lot difference for the user using it , Google needs to drive they experience and should make sure manufactures updates their devices the way everyone has the great experience that we (xda users do)
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...MOST people don't choose to go to a carrier because of a phone....
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I agree, except, what about all the zombies that jumped ship to AT&T for the iphone just to have a terrible network and pay too much?
jgalan14 said:
I like my EVO very much, best device that I had and last me more then any other phone in the market(besides iPhone) and there is one thing the bugs the hell out of me tho and is fragmentation, specially this week, we got another EVO, epic and a shift 4G(all good phones btw) in our family but since I rooted mine and I was running cm7 and the stock Evo has sense so I forgot how different they are when you use them, trying to explain something was a pain in the butt so I have to flash a sense rom to give them the right direction(person the got the EVO came from blackberry and he was lost of what to do) , well after that I'm at work and someone had a mytouch (original) and still diference , the worse part is the moto, Sammy and HTC all use different layout in buttons! Why don't they have a set up one for all Google devices? ?? I mean the EVO makes more sense to me but for my friend thinks the epic does, this is something the Google should have control from the beggining, like I said I love Android but some stuff needs to changed
I have an iPhone3GS as well and if a iPhone 4 user asked me about settings or set ups is the same but if someone ask me how to use the mail app in HTC EVO with sense is different from the email app he aosp roms come with, I know how to do it no problem for me but a lot new comers are having problem with this kind of problems . I help that much the I can
And lets no talk about updates to new version cause that's another crazy topic, man the hero got 2.1 after almost 6 months and that was it, the epic (power phone) got official froyo 6 months later, and all those little android devices lmade by LG, Samsung, etc will probably never get froyo or gingerbread .
Anyways Gizmodo just published this article about Android fragmentation and it looks like finally Google will work on it
http://m.gizmodo.com/5787565/google-finally-fights-back-against-android-fragmentation
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I agree, except, what about all the zombies that jumped ship to AT&T for the iphone just to have a terrible network and pay too much?
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Ha ha those are special occasion lmao
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This is just a random banter, but I have to say that of all smartphones I've used or tinkered with, this one to me has had the most love. I can't help but notice how all the awesome and devoted devs here on XDA are still porting and creating ROMs for this amazing phone. The EVO is what got me into Android and modifying ROMs of my own. Now that the EVO has been discontinued, let us take a moment to reflect on its majestic legacy, and see it off the way it deserves. Some key moments I remember are:
-When I saw the commercial for the EVO and it blew my mind.
-Waiting three weeks for mine to come in stock.
-When I finally bought it: August 8, 2010.
-When I learned about rooting and nervously tried it for myself.
-When I found XDA, with a whole section devoted to the EVO.
-When I tried the unlocked hotspot for the first time.
-When I accepted an OTA and lost root, not knowing what I just did.
-Waiting impatiently for 4.24 to gain root.
-Learning 4.24 had finally gained root, and leaving work early so I could root my EVO.
These are just a few moments, but there are many more. I know this post probably sounds crazy, but I know there are other people who feel this way too. If so, please feel free to share your experiences with "The People's Smartphone".
I would agree, I've had mine for over a year. Sure I want a new phone but nothing out has made me want to get rid of my evo yet.
We're comin from a pure power source.
Ahhh, to reminisce..
The EVO was my very first smartphone. I came from a LG Rumor. My EVO is still my daily driver. I got mine on Aug. 3rd 2010, just a couple months after its release. I got into the root and mod scene a few months after that.
The EVO is definately a historical device. It was the first for so many things. Most notibly for me was it was the first iPhone killer. The first real offering for iDevice haters like myself.
I have a lot of good memories with my EVO. It'll remain my current device until my contract is fullfilled. Reason being so I can carrier unlock it and continue to use it for whatever I want thereafter. Even without service it still makes a great mini tablet on wifi lol. I'll keep my EVO and use it for as long as it runs. The day it dies will be a sad day; however I still wont get rid of it lol. It'll make a snazzy paperweight! Maybe I'll make a shrine for it haha -shrugs-
I've babied my EVO so much that it still looks like it did the day it came out of the box. Not a scratch or ding on it. Still looks and performs new!
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Ahhh, to reminisce..
The EVO was my very first smartphone. I came from a LG Rumor. My EVO is still my daily driver. I got mine on Aug. 3rd 2010, just a couple months after its release. I got into the root and mod scene a few months after that.
The EVO is definately a historical device. It was the first for so many things. Most notibly for me was it was the first iPhone killer. The first real offering for iDevice haters like myself.
I have a lot of good memories with my EVO. It'll remain my current device until my contract is fullfilled. Reason being so I can carrier unlock it and continue to use it for whatever I want thereafter. Even without service it still makes a great mini tablet on wifi lol. I'll keep my EVO and use it for as long as it runs. The day it dies will be a sad day; however I still wont get rid of it lol. It'll make a snazzy paperweight! Maybe I'll make a shrine for it haha -shrugs-
I've babied my EVO so much that it still looks like it did the day it came out of the box. Not a scratch or ding on it. Still looks and performs new!
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+1 to all of that. +1000 for the EVO being the 1st iPhone killer!
Wife and I decided to fire AT&T, sold both of our iphone 3s, got our Evo 4Gs and never looked back. +1 to all the comments so far. Sent a lot of data through this bad boy via 3G, Wifi and sdcard.. now have 5 Roms loaded on it at once and switch with a single reboot.. simply amazing.
It will be a sad day when they hang on our Christmas tree though.
I both mine in September 2010 , from that time I burn two of them (sprint sponsored) . This is my the third one.
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You know something else I love about this phone.. even tho it's EOL and no longer in production; it is still technologically superior to 95% of the current offerings available.
Yes it has a single-core processor, and has half the RAM and ROM space available compared to many top-notch phones today. Take for instance tho the screen size and resolution, and it's 8MP camera. Most current phones can't beat it.
The EVO is aging, but it can still hold it's own. And of the EVO family of devices, it's second to only the 3D when it comes to performance and features in my opinion.
There's just so much to rave about when it comes to our beloved classic EVOs. It really set the standard for top-of-the-line smartphones, and it set that standard very high. HTC forever has a fan in me.
So what is a 10 month old EVO actually worth today? Its an 8-9 on a scale of 1-10.
I gotta give props to the OG. I had mine for almost a year and gave it to my daughter when I got my 3D. She rocks it and absolutely loves it to death. It is still beast.
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So what is a 10 month old EVO actually worth today? Its an 8-9 on a scale of 1-10.
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Unlocked they go for $300+ on eBay. $200+ otherwise. They're retaining their value nicely..
what makes the 3d better? well besides that its 3d
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what makes the 3d better? well besides that its 3d
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Dual core 1gb of ram
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Dual core 1gb of ram
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Yup, and that's about the extent of it too other than the higher DPI LCD. Here's a little screenshot I took directly from the HTC website.
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And here's one I took from over at pdadb.net's comparer. 3D stats on left, 4G on right.
My Evo
I rather enjoy my Evo as well. Only reason i'm considering upgrading is to get dual core action. There are some good dev's making roms and stuff for this phone still too. I think this phone is going to get plenty of action for a long time
absolutely the "People's Smartphone"..for a long time during the Windows Mobile days I would switch phones endlessly. The Evo is the only phone to hold my attention for so long. For me, it's not just the device. It's the community. The tweaking. The endless hours of fun on the couch just goofing around with this thing. It's a cheap hobby. Major props to all the fantastic Devs that keep this thing alive and major props to the rest of us that keep this community one of the most active on XDA.
I agree... I had the Hero and I thought that HTC couldn't build a phone, then I got the Evo. It is a stable and powerful phone still. It will be interesting to see what comes up next. They will have to top the Evo, which will be pretty sweet phone.
All hail the legendary EVO LOL sure newer phones are better but none blew the phone world by storm like the EVO did when it first came out
I remember when one web site called it "knight in shining armor", and "iPhone killer"
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sharkboy0901 said:
All hail the legendary EVO LOL sure newer phones are better but none blew the phone world by storm like the EVO did when it first came out
I remember when one web site called it "knight in shining armor", and "iPhone killer"
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+1 Have to agree. I also remember when they said we would get 4G Wimax and take all news releases and commercials from Sprint with a grain of salt.
Still best phone and service I have ever had.. bar none
sharkboy0901 said:
All hail the legendary EVO LOL sure newer phones are better but none blew the phone world by storm like the EVO did when it first came out
I remember when one web site called it "knight in shining armor", and "iPhone killer"
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agreed, sprint & HTC FAILED for EOL this phone
Keyz450 said:
agreed, sprint & HTC FAILED for EOL this phone
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I wouldn't say they failed, it's just a part of business. Consumers en masse want the "next best thing" you know how it goes. So you gotta fill business contracts, get people buying the new stuff, new stuff equals new accessories, new contracts etc etc.
It's a beast of a phone and can still hang with lots of devices today, it's just gotten a little long in the tooth. I honestly think after my daughter runs through my old Evo, my son will get it. I'm sure it will still be a winner in a year or two.Natural progression my man, it is what it is.
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Too bad its not from sprint
http://tinyurl.com/d7t5qzc
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Looks like the og galaxy s as a slider. I don't know for sure but that looks like a 4 inch screen, and for me that's too small. Even my photons screen feels small at 4.3 inches.
Oh how I miss my physical keyboard on my epic
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It's funny that the Epic is a 700 model number and that is 699.
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It's funny that the Epic is a 700 model number and that is 699.
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Nice catch
And I wouldn't mind an epic with a 720p display
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heres another one. a moto sprint slider.
http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-working-ics-slider-sprint?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
austin420 said:
heres another one. a moto sprint slider.
http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-working-ics-slider-sprint?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
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Assuming this is a qHD screen as the article suggests, how does that stack up against the newest Samsung screens.
Thanks to the Epic, I have grown to HATE Samsung. They have shown their true colors when it comes to software updates and I want out. The Epic development community is truly awesome, but it is a shame that we have to rely on non-paid people to make this phone what it should be. That said, I find Samsung hardware to be very nice.
i dont think i could ever get a moto phone. they are the most locked down of the three major android oems. i will prolly always buy samsung just because of the completely unlocked bootloaders and because they have a utility like odin.
@austin
That phone is pretty sexy though imo. To bad it's motorola, but it's probably the photon Q.
To OP the button on the bottom seems tacky to me, I love our lit up one. And the keyboard is so spacy, ;/
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Thanks to the Epic, I have grown to HATE Samsung. They have shown their true colors when it comes to software updates and I want out.
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I disagree with you there.
I will freely admit that the delay on FroYo was terrible and ridiculous, when FroYo was rolling out the SGSII still wasn't released, and they had already promised it to us. But Gingerbread was a courtesy. They had a new generation of smartphone running around and they only anted up due to demand. And the whole complying with what Sprint wanted. I blame them. Sprint that is. So I don't think you can rag on Samsung for that one.
And if the Epic Touch 4G is any indicator, it looks like there is one dude working on these builds. They're slow. Fact. But frankly, as long as the end user knows it's being worked on, they should be happy. Especially with the speed they already have. He's doing his best I'm sure. Poor little Samsung man.
PLUS. More room for developers to step in and make the ****ty software they're stuck with better. Case and point: Epic 4G. And without the delays I wouldn't know what I know.
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Assuming this is a qHD screen as the article suggests, how does that stack up against the newest Samsung screens.
Thanks to the Epic, I have grown to HATE Samsung. They have shown their true colors when it comes to software updates and I want out. The Epic development community is truly awesome, but it is a shame that we have to rely on non-paid people to make this phone what it should be. That said, I find Samsung hardware to be very nice.
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Samsung Equals Better Updates not this phone but in General
HTC equals updates daily and all of which are ****tier and annoying I rather wait for an update and be successful again not this phone but Samsung in General.
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If it's a slider, I would consider it if the rest of the hardware is up to par once it's released (and Sprint LTE is out & delivers). Motos are very locked down, have non-removable batteries, have worse screen res and are easy to brick during root/flash process if it goes wrong. Definitely prefer Samsung here, but with no sliders on the horizon this phone warrants some consideration. On the plus side, Moto phone batteries tend to have more up-front Mah, radios are generally better and somehow the fastboot files always seem to leak and devs are able to make root stick. Moto is also very slow to update its phones but wife's Droid 2, released later than Epic got its GB update 3 months before we did and also had good dev support in forms of CM9 and AOKP.
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i dont think i could ever get a moto phone. they are the most locked down of the three major android oems. i will prolly always buy samsung just because of the completely unlocked bootloaders and because they have a utility like odin.
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I agree motorola is very locked down, in the photon forums people who underwent the official motorola soak update test they got permanently locked in a new way. I am unlocked fortunately and there is a good dev community so I am happy with my photon. I hope it is an improved qHD display because mine is definitely not on par with the epic's screen. I really hope they put the S4 processor in it because that would be nice. This is probably the rumored photon q, q most likely standing for qwerty. Also makes alot of sense why the epic just went EOL. We also have a very similar utility like odin its called sbf.
When my upgrade comes in december I am all over this.
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But Gingerbread was a courtesy. They had a new generation of smartphone running around and they only anted up due to demand.
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Why??? The hardware could handle it, and the phone wasn't EOL. Getting software updates on phones that aren't EOL should be a no brainer. I shouldn't have to upgrade my hardware just to get new software, UNLESS the hardware can't handle the new software. These aren't FREE phones. We pay quite a bit of money for these phones. Getting some major software releases should be part of the deal.
I think the EOL thing is semantics anyway TBH. The software always lists the minimum requirements in order to run it adequately on hardware, if the hardware can support it, these manufacturers need to be supporting their customers AFTER the sale, and not just for 6 months after the sale.
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And if the Epic Touch 4G is any indicator, it looks like there is one dude working on these builds. They're slow. Fact. But frankly, as long as the end user knows it's being worked on, they should be happy.
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This is not my problem. I should not be two levels of software behind, because they are greedy and don't want to hire the correct number of people to maintain their hardware. Why should I be happy with wayyyyyyyyyyyy subpar customer service??? It is sad what society considers "acceptable" from companies these days (customer service out of India is the first thing that comes to mind).
I am not looking for new versions of software the day that Google releases them, but if they can run on our hardware, I expect them in relatively short order.
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I have been burned by Samsung TWO OUT OF TWO times now. Once on our Epic, and the other on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 which is STILL running Honeycomb. My complaints about Samsung stem further than just our phone.
The only reason why the Epic wasn't on the EOL list, was because it was the only high-end qwerty phone. Since Moto is making a high-end qwerty phone with ICs for sprint the Epic can r.i.p.
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Psh no they still keep this phone
It'll still be the best QWERTY slider for a while
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Let's keep the new phone discussions in the new phone thread.
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