Honestly I like being the only person I know that has a Nexus one. I'm not sure why some people are complaining about the Nexus one not getting the attention it deserves, i prefer to be the only person in my group of friends that have one because it makes me feel special :] lol and really though I don't want it to become the next Walmart of phones like the iphone. How do you all feel? Basically I like that the Nexus one is not in retail stores.
I'm not sure how the Nexus one is "exclusive".
It's available on both At&t and T-Mobile, even more than the iphone. It's just that not a lot of people want to buy an unsubsidized phone.
well I'm talking about the fact that it isn't in retail stores.
I don't want it to become the next Walmart of phones like the iphone.
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What exactly do you mean by that?
And I wish the Nexus one had a little more advertising, and was rolled out to other carriers faster. Everyone I know has still only ever heard of the Nexus one from me having it.
(I wish more people knew about the N1 while the Motorola Droid stole the spotlight)
What I mean is the iphone is so common it is basically the definition of a smart phone, don't get me wrong I want android to get publicity and gain fans, but I just like being one of the few that had one. To me the android os is more of a tech savvy phone while the iphone is mainstream.
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What I mean is the iphone is so common it is basically the definition of a smart phone, don't get me wrong I want android to get publicity and gain fans, but I just like being one of the few that had one. To me the android os is more of a tech savvy phone while the iphone is mainstream.
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Like what many said, it's probably because of advertising.
Because I don't think you need to be a tech geek to fully experience android. It's just that it's a lot more customizable. To me it's as easy to use as the iphone os.
Jackasaur said:
What I mean is the iphone is so common it is basically the definition of a smart phone, don't get me wrong I want android to get publicity and gain fans, but I just like being one of the few that had one. To me the android os is more of a tech savvy phone while the iphone is mainstream.
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The more N1 sales there are the more long term support it will get. I get a little worried about Google saying that its tired of dealing with whining customers and bad press and just drops the N1 completely to focus on Android...
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Like what many said, it's probably because of advertising.
Because I don't think you need to be a tech geek to fully experience android. It's just that it's a lot more customizable. To me it's as easy to use as the iphone os.
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Yes, I know the iphone is a lot smoother and easier to use, and therefore it's a more mainstream device, but I know in the long run as Google gets going the Android OS will probably topple the iPhone OS, because the iPhone OS did have a bit more time than Android. We'll see though, I really hope Froyo makes android as smooth and responsive as a iPhone.
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The more N1 sales there are the more long term support it will get. I get a little worried about Google saying that its tired of dealing with whining customers and bad press and just drops the N1 completely to focus on Android...
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I think that Google could do better in support for the Nexus one, I've walked around the boards on the Nexus one page and there doesn't seem to be much being resolved or fixed. I know Google is new to this, but eventually they'll get it right, lets just hope it'll happens soon.
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Yes, I know the iphone is a lot smoother and easier to use, and therefore it's a more mainstream device, but I know in the long run as Google gets going the Android OS will probably topple the iPhone OS, because the iPhone OS did have a bit more time than Android. We'll see though, I really hope Froyo makes android as smooth and responsive as a iPhone.
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LOL In my household, ASIDE from my N1, there are all the current flavors of iphone - 2G, 3G, and 3GS, and my Nexus One blows them all away in terms of smoothness, responsiveness, and speed, so I'm not sure what else you're wanting here. Even the iphone isn't as fast as its commercials would have you believe (go figure, eh?), but the Nexus One is handily faster.
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LOL In my household, ASIDE from my N1, there are all the current flavors of iphone - 2G, 3G, and 3GS, and my Nexus One blows them all away in terms of smoothness, responsiveness, and speed, so I'm not sure what else you're wanting here. Even the iphone isn't as fast as its commercials would have you believe (go figure, eh?), but the Nexus One is handily faster.
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Well I've owned 2 iPhones, and the smoothness I'm talking about is when you're moving from one home screen to another, and the responsiveness I'm talking about is sometimes the screen tweaks out and I have to put it to sleep and then it'll be fine. But Yeah I've compared the speed of my Nexus One with my friends iPhone 3GS, that thing is nothing compared to my N1. :]
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Honestly I like being the only person I know that has a Nexus one. I'm not sure why some people are complaining about the Nexus one not getting the attention it deserves, i prefer to be the only person in my group of friends that have one because it makes me feel special :] lol and really though I don't want it to become the next Walmart of phones like the iphone. How do you all feel? Basically I like that the Nexus one is not in retail stores.
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What to do? Google is not big on mainstream advertising. I guess hope rested on word of mouth within the tech community. Most tech outlets covered the phone, again just limited reach.
I love the "exclusivity"! A lot of people who I've encoutnered are always like "woah! is that a nexus one?!"
The Nexus One is like a mythical creature; a lot of people have heard about it, but not many people know how to capture/get one.
Back in the day, the iPhone used to be the epitome of all great phones, but now everyone has one so no one really cares anymore
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I love the "exclusivity"! A lot of people who I've encoutnered are always like "woah! is that a nexus one?!"
The Nexus One is like a mythical creature; a lot of people have heard about it, but not many people know how to capture/get one.
Back in the day, the iPhone used to be the epitome of all great phones, but now everyone has one so no one really cares anymore
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I know right? lol Whenever I meet someone they are always like "Dude let my see that wallpaper thing where you can press on it and colors shoot out" people see it on Youtube, but never played with one, so I like being the guy that has a Nexus one instead of an iPhone like all my other friends
I'd like to be one of the few to own a Nexus One but this has a downside. Less people owning it means lesser development of apps....
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I'd like to be one of the few to own a Nexus One but this has a downside. Less people owning it means lesser development of apps....
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And lesser chance of future support...
faraz1992 said:
I'd like to be one of the few to own a Nexus One but this has a downside. Less people owning it means lesser development of apps....
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This makes no sense whatsoever. Android is not based off of simply one phone, it is an ecosystem of phones. One Android device not getting as much attention as the other will not effect the speed at which the market grows.
Then there is the fact the Google has been passing out this phone to developers for quite some time, popular apps such as "SkyFire" are demoed on the Nexus. Along with things like Flash. Hypothetically, it is Google's Android Developer Phone 3.. well 2 I believe.
I got a colleague who's pretty sick of his iphones. Been jailbreaking the **** out of them and he's totally bored. Kept giving me those "I'm sick of iphone and u got a cool nexus one" looks. Mwahahaha.
But seriously, I hope Google doesn't cast the Nexus One aside anytime in the near future.
God I'm sick of reading posts about the Nexus One being "phased out" on here. To the people that just bought their first smartphone, and want it to last for (at least) a year, maybe you're better off going to the Apple camp.
And why are people *****ing about "support"? We will be getting Android updates... Plus we have warranties no matter what new phones Google releases...
/facepalm
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Android Beats iphone in First Quarter Sales by a Whopping 7 percent!
Link to Arcticles here:
Android sold more phones than Apple in Q1, analyst reports
Report: Google Android surpasses iPhone in U.S.
Android Elbows iPhone Out of Second Place in US Market
Android Advances against Inferior iPhone 28 to 21.
Google's Android Takes Bite Out Of Apple
Android Tops Apple OS for First Quarter
Google Android Crushes Apple In Mobile OS Race
This is going to get ugly. Pop some corn! So if the new Iphone doesn't turn the tide this summer, what will Apple's reaction be?
F~cking OWNED.
Steve Jobs must be crying now.
In your FACE.
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F~cking OWNED.
Steve Jobs must be crying now.
In your FACE.
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lol... ya gotta love it.
In fairness, we have an Android Army of phones on a lot of carriers going up against the Iphone. Still, Jobs has a bellyache and is soiling his drawers.
**yawn**
Sooner or later, this was going to happen because ultimately "open" wins
Steve Jobs would be pretty pissed
and this is in the US only... Worldwide its surely a much bigger margin.
the one phone one provider isn't an argument because Apple and Steve choose this path so fair or not if the loss it's becuase the didn't play the game right.
What is unfair is the fact we have 3 major top of the line devices right now (driod, nexus, incred) and they have to release the iphone4 in a few months. If we hold a lead that month then the world is on its head and we are slaying the dragon. Lets hope the Evo puts a nail in that coffin!!!
Yeah, only the beginnig ...see asian market!.. but China only, should be enough to tripple this, as they start producing really low prized Android devices.
It just means that apples going to try and add more features than they originally planned to the new iphone. Will probably just take some elements from android and polish them.
I mean.. just look at that green bar there, Look how it climbs???
Up your ass Steve...
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it just means that apples going to try and add more features than they originally planned to the new iphone. Two options for them:
1.) they will actually make something that completely outshines all android and smartphone devices
2.) [recommended] they will try and copy android and make everyone think iphone is better
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What could they possibly do to make their next iPhone better than Android?
Make it open-source? LOOOL
There's also the question of which group of users Windows Phone 7 will appeal to. If its Apple users, thats another problem for the iPhone
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What could they possibly do to make their next iPhone better than Android?
Make it open-source? LOOOL
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somehow get the technology in place and at&t on board with video calls... so nothing
Umm, thats slightly deceptive, since there are 101 phones that run android, as well as tablets, netbooks and other devies. But hey, fan boys will be fan boys, be they android or iPhone
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Umm, thats slightly deceptive, since there are 101 phones that run android, as well as tablets, netbooks and other devies. But hey, fan boys will be fan boys, be they android or iPhone
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Thats the reason why android is doing so well because it can work on so many hardware devices. You can choose a phone with the hardware you need, in your price budget and still get android.
If the next iphone does this I will consider buying it:
or this
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/05/07/android-gets-ported-to-the-iphone-3g/
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Umm, thats slightly deceptive, since there are 101 phones that run android, as well as tablets, netbooks and other devies. But hey, fan boys will be fan boys, be they android or iPhone
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It's a 100% factual comparison of the number of Android OS users versus the number of iPhone OS users. How is this deceptive?
Just because you don't like the facts, doesn't mean it's deceptive
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Umm, thats slightly deceptive, since there are 101 phones that run android, as well as tablets, netbooks and other devies. But hey, fan boys will be fan boys, be they android or iPhone
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Nothing deceptive or fanboyish about it at all. Android outsold Apple's iPhone. It's Apples fault for releasing the iPhone on only one network and offering pretty much the same phone for the last 2-3 years. People are bored with the iPhone and it's UI. Time to move on.
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Hehe, sorry but I had to laugh
I knew Android was on the move & great to read the articles
1. Do keep in mind this time of year the Iphone rumors are in full tilt , many are holding off waiting for the "next" iphone.
2. Theres nothing "skewed" about it. ATT or one unit is not an excuse. Its what Apple has decided to do. Sure if iphone was avilable on VZ it may be a different story...but if Nexus One was subsidized and sold in stores itd be another story. Google and Apple have made there decisions these are the results. Theres no would or could....only is.
3. Incredible/Evo/N1+MTSide vs Iphone 4g.
Current and next quarter is what will count. It will be interesting to see if Iphone goes to VZ just how much advertising theyll put in between the incredible or iphone.
Doesnt matter what Iphone does the drones will buy it up.Theres enough uneducated sheep out there that still think iphone OS is the best so if it goes to VZ thatll be a monumental seller. I still think ATT got the ipad becuase VZ was getting the Iphone 4g as well.
Great news for Android but BB is darn impressive considering the ridiculous lack of good hardware. BB communications and "business" features are still killers. Android and Iphone just arent taking it serious enough. BB users would jump in a heartbeat if there email/txt/IM were as reliable and easy on either platform. BB users are much smarter than Iphone users IMO they want substance that isnt offered elsewhere.
Sprint/VZ and lazy Google would serve themselves well pumping out ad campaigns for there new phones. VZ ad campaign alone was the force behind the massive jump. Imagne if Sprint/Google would match that tv ad money.
Yep, don't count your chickens yet guys....
People who bought an iPhone about 6 months ago will need to buy another soon as they can't change their battery!!
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I still think ATT got the ipad becuase VZ was getting the Iphone 4g as well.
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I disagree. I think it say the opposite: The iPad going to ATT just shows that Apple and ATT are still partners and that nothing has changed.
There will be no Verizon iPhone. Not this year anyway.
A tiny bit of offtopic: iPhone users may be suffering from "Stockholm Syndrome"
I hope I will be forgiven for a bit of an off-topic here, but since there is much, much comparison between iPhone and Nexus, and selling models of both phones differ so much, here it is:
Analyst Says iPhone Users Experiencing Stockholm Syndrome
A bizarre report from Strand Consult, an analyst firm in Denmark, has likened the relationship iPhone users have with their iPhone to Stockholm Syndrome:
When we examine the iPhone users’ arguments defending the iPhone, it reminds us of the famous Stockholm Syndrome – a term that was invented by psychologists after a hostage drama in Stockholm. Here hostages reacted to the psychological pressure they were experiencing, by defending the people that had held them hostage for 6 days.
….Below is a selection of some of the arguments that various hard-core iPhone fanatics have been using since the iPhone initially launched:
1. The first iPhone was not a 3G phone: What do you need 3G for? You can easily use the iPhone without using a 3G network and anyway, 3G is not particularly widespread, so this is not a problem.
2. The phone cannot send MMS: There is no need to send MMSs, hardly anybody sends MMSs.
3. You cannot forward a SMS: This is a function that hardly anybody uses and was therefore not included in the first iPhones.
4. The phone has a poor camera: The built-in camera is perfectly adequate and the iPhone takes fantastic photos with its camera.
The report lists 20 iPhone flaws and purported defenses by iPhone owners and comes to the conclusion that the real reason for the popularity of the iPhone is because the people that bought one will go to great lengths to justify their purchase, even lying to others:
In reality the iPhone is surrounded by a multitude of people, media and companies that are happy to bend the truth to defend the product they have purchased from Apple.
Personally, I find the whole idea that that the iPhone is holding me against my will preposterous. I mean, sure, I signed a two-year contract that I really didn’t want, but it’s not like I’m stuck in some kind of walled garden or anything. In a real hostage situation, the hostage taker would control what you see and hear, and it’s not like that with Apple, right? And there’s no one demanding money, like, say $175, to free me from the iPhone or the two-year contract. Nope, I love my captor, I mean, my iPhone.
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Original: http://artoftheiphone.com/2009/12/13/analyst-says-iphone-users-experiencing-stockholm-syndrome/
DISCLAIMER: This is for laughs and giggles only, by reading this you agree that you are not an apple fanboy and will take this article not as means to defend The Sacred Apple, but as a funny anecdote. Chronic flamers need not bother.
This is actually pretty funny. The only outdated part is the one about the 2-year contract (I think they sell them off-contract now?).
I like to think that Steve Jobs was a shepherd in a past life.
lol, Good one...like the disclaimer
galaxys said:
lol, Good one...like the disclaimer
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Yup, anyone not following it will be BANNED!
spidermonkeyrob said:
I like to think that Steve Jobs was a shepherd in a past life.
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Lol good one there
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Yup, anyone not following it will be BANNED!
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Jose, glad 2 C U visiting the N1 gang where the action is
I just got done reading the article from the link. This reminds me of this arguement I had with an iphone user on youtube. I was explaining how the N1 was a better phone overall to him and this was one of his responses to one of my comments. I remember it like it was yesterday. The guy was an asshole too.
"Why would I need a voice-to-text feature when I can type XXX words every minute???"
*sarcasm* I would love to see this guy work his fingers that fast as his car is driving off a cliff. Dont text and drive kids.
i've seen HTC/Android/WM users that are no better.
whenever someone is willing to shun a device just because it runs XXX OS or is built by XXX company without giving it a fair try needs to pull their head out of the sand.
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The only outdated part is the one about the 2-year contract (I think they sell them off-contract now?).
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Yeah, locked for $700.
This article touched on SO many good points about how Apple has changed their tune on tons of different features. My favorites include...
-MMS, not needed because you can use email (but the email client will resize your images to VGA/MMS quality anyway, fixed in 4.0).
-Apps/App Store, web apps are the future!
-Multitasking, unnecessary and excluded to improve stability, then push notifications were satisfactory, now multitasking is being added in 4.0.
-3G, drains way too much battery life so it's not needed...until we release another phone to sell you next year.
But my favorite of them all? PRICE. The original 8gb, EDGE-only iPhone sold for $599 on a two-year contract.
crazy talk said:
i've seen HTC/Android/WM users that are no better.
whenever someone is willing to shun a device just because it runs XXX OS or is built by XXX company without giving it a fair try needs to pull their head out of the sand.
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...unless they're talking about Windows Mobile. Really, I don't care what your background is. 6.5 and below is absolute garbage, lest HTC and everyone else wouldn't be trying to cover it with different UI layers, nor Microsoft ditching the framework altogether for Windows Phone 7.
We are all fan boys to a certain extent. I'm sure many of you (including me) will defend the nexus against some other device. We might have different limits, but the behavior is the same in every one of us.
Lets be realistic, we love our devices no matter what choice we made.
The rest its just pure exaggeration and if you start believing in psychologists your life is going down the hill.
Yeah, I do the same with my Nexus One :
For some reason I can't send MMS, but hey, who needs MMS anyway ?
Games definitely sucks compared to what you have on an iPhone... but you don't buy a phone to play games, do you ?
Sound quality sucks... but I have a DAP so i don't listen to music on my Nexus One.
The screen is almost unusable in direct sunlight... but I almost always use it indoors.
The truth is, once you bought an expensive device, either you don't like it and you return it, or you like it enough to keep it and you start convincing yourself that it doesn't have any flaws, or that its flaws are not really important.
And I do like my N1 more than enough to forget its flaws =)
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The rest its just pure exaggeration and if you start believing in psychologists your life is going down the hill.
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You'd better believe the psychologists, at least some of them might know your nature more than you know yourself. Here is one that explains this point, for example:
http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_gilbert_asks_why_are_we_happy.html
So the point is that we should have less choice so we can be happy with the only thing we have? "Yeah, right!"
This doesn't make any sense to me. While he might be right, i do believe in being able to choose.
Come on guys, we all know Apple rules. Just check out this latest article from Gizmodo (lol):
http://gizmodo.com/5545711/dear-steve-has-google-leapfrogged-apple
Dear Steve, Has Google Leapfrogged Apple?
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Here's what Steve Jobs thinks of our thoughts of Google leapfrogging Apple:
Dear Steve,
Have you read this Gizmodo article? What are your thoughts on it? Do you believe Google is surpassing you guys or do you believe something different? What do you plan on doing if Google is surpassing Apple?
Any thoughts?
Sincerely,
Brian
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Steve Jobs wrote:
Not a chance.
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The "leapfrogged Apple" article is actually pretty good; check it out here:
http://gizmodo.com/5543794/google-is-leapfrogging-apple
The only thing worse than the supposed Apply fanbois (which to be honest I don't really notice) are the Apple hatebois. I really don't understand what all the hate towards the iPhone (and now iPad) is about. I think it's a pretty good product, personally.
I'd much rather see people with iPhones than BlackBerry's. Nothing annoys me more than being "out of the loop" because everyone I know uses BBM almost exclusively for communications. If RIM made phones that I actually wanted to use it wouldn't be such a problem, but as it stands they lock everyone in with services like that and then produce lackluster consumer products. Rumor has it that iPhone OS 4 will have iChat functionality built in, which likely means native Google Talk support!
Google Talk good, BBM bad.
Re: A tiny bit of offtopic: iPhone users may be suffering from "Stockholm Syndrome"
Omg, the wars to defend the Sacred Apple have started =)
It's just a funny article. You don't see nexus fans flame over Onion News' video of "google whispering ads to your ear". If you can't take the sarcasm, maybe there is a reason why you're so defensive =)
The wars to defend the Sacred Apple have started? Someone says they think a product is decent and to you its a declaration of war? I think that's the problem. There seems to be no middle ground any more. You either have to agree to hate Apple, or risk being branded a mindless drone caught in Steve Jobs' reality distortion field.
Anyway, I realize the blog post has a joking tone. I was just pointing out that I think iPhones are nice. Not awesome like a Nexus One, but still nice.
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Anyway, I realize the blog post has a joking tone. I was just pointing out that I think iPhones are nice. Not awesome like a Nexus One, but still nice.
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Yeah, I agree =) I guess that puts me in the middle ground.
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Jose, glad 2 C U visiting the N1 gang where the action is
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Nice to see you too! I m getting a Desire in the end of the month but my love for windows mobile will never end.
to everyone else;
I like the I-phone very much,but hate when a company wants to tell me what is best for me or what i can or cannot do.In short i hate arrogant people.
Also,it really tick me of whend people that have an iphone as their first touch device BELIVE that only the I-Phone has such technology or was the first to have it!
anyway,
peace and love guys.
faria said:
Also,it really tick me of whend people that have an iphone as their first touch device BELIVE that only the I-Phone has such technology or was the first to have it!
anyway,
peace and love guys.
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Yeah, I think you hit the spot there. It may actually have nothing to do with the device itself, it's the attitude and the ignorance. You'd think that spending $500+ for a phone, people would research and educate themselves a bit about the alternatives, pros and cons.. yet iphone users (I'm sorry, it's true) very often do not. The reasons for that are a separate topic. Mostly, the salesguy at AT&T (or coworker/friend/media) just told them it's the best, so it must be the best.
It'd be hard to find nexus one user who didn't make any research before buying it. Maybe that's why they didn't sell as many . I betcha vast majority of nexus users know all about Nexus' pros and cons.
Imo, that is the main reason for all this fighting. iPhone itself just got caught in the middle.
I apologize for making another "I'm mad at Samsung for..." thread, but after trying for the past hours to get the JI5 update and failing, I'm a bit angrier than I usually am and want to hurt Samsung somewhere where they will feel it while not going to extremes like trying to organize a class action suit.
Ever since the Galaxy S line came out they really haven't done much to support it except release 3 buggy updates for three of the phones and completely ignore the one that's been out in the States for the longest (until the "made you look" event of today), yet they're so eager to show off that Galaxy Tab that they want everyone to be interested in and buy next month. I suggest simply spreading the word to everyone that no one should but that thing until they at least get their house in order and get the Galaxy S line up to the basic functionality they should have had out of the box. Spread the word that they apparently can't support the products they release and that nobody should touch those things until they can prove they are going to stand behind the products they want us to spend our hard earned money on.
Before some of you start flaming me, I do very well know this is a forum for people who mod their phones and have no intention of staying stock. I mod my phones too. Even with the fixes I've flashed I still have issues with GPS and the phone resetting. I appreciate everything the community has done to help make these phones better and I whole heartedly thank them for doing so, but at the same time there's a whole company with a division of people getting paid to do this that hasn't been able to supply us with one good fix after nearly 3 months time. It's time we should make every potential customer aware of that.
I'm boycotting the U.S. release of the Galaxy Tab, but only because I find the fact that all 4 U.S. carriers disabling the phone functions of the thing (the international version won't have this limitation) as a hugely retarded move.
I'm not interested in carrying around 2 huge slabs-o-touchscreen all the darn time. If I were I'd be an iDiot and worship Steve Jobs.
That's understandable, personally I could care less about being able to make calls on tablet. It's not like you would be able to take calls on both your cell phone and the tablet. And I sure wouldn't care for having another phone number.
I love my iPad btw!
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I'm boycotting the U.S. release of the Galaxy Tab, but only because I find the fact that all 4 U.S. carriers disabling the phone functions of the thing (the international version won't have this limitation) as a hugely retarded move.
I'm not interested in carrying around 2 huge slabs-o-touchscreen all the darn time. If I were I'd be an iDiot and worship Steve Jobs.
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Why would you carry it around if you can't use it as a phone?
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To be honest I am not surprised they are disabling the calling feature. In fact I would be surprised if they didn't.
I mean I for one wouldn't want to stop using my vibrant to use that giant tablet.
Also no matter what it will have wifi so it can be more like a laptop on the go and playing games on it will be awesome from the looks of it.
Well if they are just disabling the feature then that means the hardware to make calls is still built in so someone could root it and make calls anyway. But I'm still not getting one cause it'll be just like my phone. Tablets are a median of a phone and a notebook but nowadays the Ipad is the best out.
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Can't say I'm feeling pouty and petulant about Samsung in general, but I crossed four Tabs off my Xmas list when they announced the phone functionality was disabled.
As for the frequent comments about the Tab being too large to use as a phone, I use my phone as a speakerphone most of the time, and Bluetooth headsets put the final nail in the coffin for that argument.
I really doubt the S Tab will sell much anyway.
Smaller screen than the iPad, lower resolution, considerably worse battery life, for almost the same price....
Plus, given our experience with Samsung, it will probably not be upgraded to Gingerbread, which according to Google is the first version of Android actually meant for tablets.
Who in their right mind will buy the Tab?
What made me mad is they have more accessories slated for that thing than the very phones they already have out.
Docks, keyboards and all kinds of goodies. Oh yeah they all plug into the bottom of the Tab not the top like our retarded phones.
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Why would you carry it around if you can't use it as a phone?
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Exactly!
Since it's functionally crippled compared to it's European counterpart I don't plan on carrying one around.
It's an interesting device, and will probably have a modicum of success, but the deliberate lockdown of an existing feature is one that makes me uninterested in it.
Given that it's carrier unsubsidized pricing internationally is likely going to make it more expensive than the iPad, if I were to develop an interest in an Android tablet/mid that didn't support phone functions, I'd just SPEND LESS MONEY on a comparable 7" tablet that doesn't have phone functions. There are several...
Huge flaw with Samsung tablet, not sure if mentioned
At the moment pretty much every App available doesn't even support the tablets 1024x600 resolution so they will be to small for the screen or will stretch and look like crap.
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Huge flaw with Samsung tablet, not sure if mentioned
At the moment pretty much every App available doesn't even support the tablets 1024x600 resolution so they will be to small for the screen or will stretch and look like crap.
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I can make everything in an app support that higher res, and I font even consider myself a dev... More of a file mover.. But there are tutorials and some apps are already compatible...
Remember when donut and froyo came out not all apps were compatible.. Some apps dont work on donut now...
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WTF does this have to do with the Vibrant? Oh, can all of you stop blaming everything on Samsung? It seems like only half the people on this forum has sense and understands that T-Mobile makes the final call on updates.
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WTF does this have to do with the Vibrant? Oh, can all of you stop blaming everything on Samsung? It seems like only half the people on this forum has sense and understands that T-Mobile makes the final call on updates.
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Dude, you are drawn to these threads like a fly is to sh!t!
T-Mobile has its problems, but what about the rest of the companies carrying the Galaxy S? Have any released Froyo, or successful compass fixes?
No? Must be a worldwide carrier conspiracy to make Samsung look bad, by delaying fixes and OS upgrades.....
No, Samsung's track records with product support just sucks. That's why some are pissed.
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Wait a second, let me get this straight. You are upset because an unofficial, probably beta quality firmware wasn't available properly through a piece of software that hasn't been released to the US market yet?
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Wait a second, let me get this straight. You are upset because an unofficial, probably beta quality firmware wasn't available properly through a piece of software that hasn't been released to the US market yet?
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Nice troll, since I don't believe you are actually as stupid as you're trying to get us to believe.
No, we're all pissed off about Samsung's crappy support. I bought a phone with a GPS built in. I can't use my GPS because it doesn't work.
A little fact which has been repeatedly explained to you. So either you choose to ignore it so you can troll more, or you have major issues with reading comprehension, take your pick.
And, as I said elsewhere, no one forced you to bring your fanboi self into this thread.
I'll hold out for MOTO or HTC
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That's great, let's organize a boycott of something that 99.9% of people have no plan to purchase in the first place. In other words, we're going to have to seek out people who want to buy the Tab and then dissuade them. Personally, I think I won't.
psshh, who is gonna buy that over sized phone anyway, too big for been a phone, too small for been a tablet
First of all, i have an Evo...before anyone says apple fanboy. Call me whatever you would like, however. So anyways, why do you guys hate on apple so much? They have way better products than anyone out there.
Take for example..motorola xoom. 800$ for dual core tablet. Se? 800? Why not just buy a really good laptop? The ipad 2 starts out at 499, for 16gb. It has a dual core chip, two cameras..anything you would want from a tablet computer. Granted it does run Apple's software, but you seriously can't hate on a device that is way better than any out there.
The pricing is better.
The product is better.
The aftermarket is better.
The design is better.
The battery life is WAY better.
And before someone says, you will just have to replace it in a year..so what? You have to replace anything within a year. One month after you buy something (especially on verizon!) you are already outdated. You have (Motorola, Samsung, Rim, and god knows who else making all these tablets). At least you have one company only making one design a year. They update their technology, and they make it good. Android phones get a new one every freaking month, and they are all looking the same. When you have different companies making different stuff, they shouldn't look the same. Can you say copycat much?
Get over yourselves.
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Just sayin...
My real penis is huge, as well.
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First of all, i have an Evo...before anyone says apple fanboy. Call me whatever you would like, however. So anyways, why do you guys hate on apple so much? They have way better products than anyone out there.
Take for example..motorola xoom. 800$ for dual core tablet. Se? 800? Why not just buy a really good laptop? The ipad 2 starts out at 499, for 16gb. It has a dual core chip, two cameras..anything you would want from a tablet computer. Granted it does run Apple's software, but you seriously can't hate on a device that is way better than any out there.
The pricing is better.
The product is better.
The aftermarket is better.
The design is better.
The battery life is WAY better.
And before someone says, you will just have to replace it in a year..so what? You have to replace anything within a year. One month after you buy something (especially on verizon!) you are already outdated. You have (Motorola, Samsung, Rim, and god knows who else making all these tablets). At least you have one company only making one design a year. They update their technology, and they make it good. Android phones get a new one every freaking month, and they are all looking the same. When you have different companies making different stuff, they shouldn't look the same. Can you say copycat much?
Get over yourselves.
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I don't know why would set yourself up to get flamed on this because you know its gonna happen, but whatever floats your boat. I'm not gonna hate on you for liking Apple but I do think that you missed a few things.
-Android is more customizable since it is open source.
-The majority of Apples product line is not better priced than its competitor's.
-The specs on Apples stuff becomes outdated very quickly, many times you can buy something non-apple cheaper that is spec wise a lot better and it won't cost your near as much.
The only things that I can agree with you on is that yes Apple design is better, and also the support for their products is much better, but with a significant price difference usually.
I think it really comes down to preference in the end. IMHO people fall in love with Apple products because they are easier to use, there is not a lot of complication in doing some things. IOS vs. Android, you have the people who want to be able to have a smartphone and dig the ease of things in IOS, then you have Android which is more complicated but you can do a lot more with it. So you could call the IPhone the smartphone for "dummies" and then Android is for the more tech advanced crowd that likes to customize everything to how they want it. I am not trying to step on anyone here but, that is just how I see it and I think many others would agree.
PS- I am not here to argue about which is better, so if your gonna start trying to flame on me don't expect another post from me.
What's with all these random threads?
****, you're cluttering up the forums!
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What a snorefest. I hope you guys have fun arguing the same **** over and over.
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I am not trolling, i am pointing out good issues. I am sorry that you are such a android fanboy where you cannot take criticism and realize when you are wrong.
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I am not trolling, i am pointing out good issues. I am sorry that you are such a android fanboy where you cannot take criticism and realize when you are wrong.
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not true.. because pricing has not officially announced.
I don't get why people "hate" anything product related. If you don't want it, don't buy it. Saying anything sucks without owning one for a long period of time is just people being petty, immature, and possibly jealous.
It's one thing to be brand loyal, but don't be a moron about it. Think about if everything were the same. It would suck. The fact that there are different brands and items is a good thing. We should want more diversity, not less.
I don't really *hate* Apple. I just don't like the way they do business. It doesn't appeal to me. They lie about the competition, present the worst case scenario as the norm, lock everything down, and charge a premium for cosmetic differences.
I could buy a Mac Pro laptop for $1200 or I could buy an Asus laptop with the same specs PLUS an iPad or Galaxy Tab for the same price. It's not worth it to me to have an aluminum case and a slightly better fit and finish. For some folks it is worth it. People buy Mercedes and BMW and that's their business. I just don't like the implication that unless you buy into their closed ecosystem you are stuck with something that is falling apart and complete garbage. There's always something in between the bargain basement crap and the fancy boutique offering.
Xoom has a bit higher specs than the iPad 2 but yeah, it's a bit overpriced. The thing is, it's not just Apple that prices high when something is new. The Viewsonic G-Tablet has almost identical specs to the iPad 2 and it's $400. As the market heats up there should be plenty of $500 tablets.
And they *will* do more to replace a laptop. They run all kinds of apps from any app store, not only the Apple or Google or whoever approved store. They don't block competing tech like Flash which is used on a ton of web apps. Not everyone wants to sacrifice capability just so things are idiot-simple.
This is the only time when I really get annoyed at Apple. They make certain simple things sound so hard in order to sell their products. Rather than spending 15 minutes to learn valuable computer skills, they'll just take away options and charge you for the privilege. Screw that. Paying extra so I don't have to think is not a good thing and the idea that it is a good thing irritates the crap out of me. People are way too eager to open their wallets to avoid using their brains as it is. On a personal level that annoys me.
If you think I'm too stupid to decide what apps to install or what kinds of things I want to run on the devices I can buy, then you can do without my stupid money.
Anyway that's all personal ranting. There's always a market for people with more cash than time or effort. It's legit. It's just not the only way to look at things and it's not for me. I like to bargain shop, compare features/specs, and go for bang to buck ratio. That's just not usually an option with Apple.
Besides all of my personal preferences, I don't really give a crap where other people spend their money. As long as there are options that suit me better I am happy. Tech geeks can argue about why they make the choices they do all day. It's our hobby to research and compare so we stand behind our decisions. It can get irrational and I'm no better. In the end it's just consumer electronics made by greedy corporations and they will probably all gain sentience and kill us all anyway.
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Couldn't have said it better
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I don't really *hate* Apple. I just don't like the way they do business.
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This. Although I am posting this from one of my 2 macbook pros. As a designer, I can't get used to Windows, but the above applies to the rest of their business.
Digging deep in my fail bank today. These threads are getting a little crazy today.
****tards need to quit starting threads just to start ****.
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****tards need to quit starting threads just to start ****.
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I agree with this. Let's not forget this is an Evo forum, for discussion of the Evo. Let's not clutter it up with threads of non-relevant devices. There's an off-topic thread if you want to do that.
Wow, so silly. You are a troll, speaking in absolutes, and without facts.
The xoom 32gb wifi + 3g that is 800 has a slightly larger screen, and is upgradeable to 4g for no additional cost.
The ipad2 32gb wifi + 3g is 730.
If you are arguing options, that is one thing, but it doesn't make sense to compare different storage sizes and complain about the price difference.
If you took 4g out of the picture, the xoom 32gb would be cheaper than 800. Both are dual core. They are both simarly speced and priced products.
Since you asked, yes Apple has good products and eco systems. What I personally don't like are their practices which are worse than anything Microsoft ever done.
I hate Apple because they act as though customers are lucky to be holding one of their products in their hand instead of the company feeling lucky that they have the customer.
The only thing that apple does that I'd like to see other manufacturers do themselves is make near-perfect hardware. The build quality of apple products is without rival and I wish HTC would attempt to come close to that.
No more ASUS for me
Never posted before, but what a silly post. Perhaps Microsoft should not develop any further versions of windows as it will 'harm' their past users? Perhaps no-one should develop any new technology as some will be left behind, perhaps we should have stuck to bows and arrows? It is well known that Android is a more fragmented eco system than Apple. Perhaps you should have thought about this more and researched your purchase a little better. You sound more suited to Apple quite honestly, fanboy in the making.
Meh. Whatever. Have fun with Apple. Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.
It's tough to take anyone serious that turns goodbye into "good by".
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It's tough to take anyone serious that turns goodbye into "good by".
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Yes, i opened the thread believing it contained something positive regarding Asus and Google. Instead i was rewarded with petty drivel.
If you're looking for somebody to talk you out of it (which you must be, you wouldn't have made a post otherwise), don't bother looking. We don't need you to stay. Go ahead and jump.
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It's tough to take anyone serious that turns goodbye into "good by".
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Lol...funny i was thinking something similar. Funny thread.
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to me the TF was a "good buy"
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had to thank that 1 lol
i love my TF ICS or not
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
I find it funny about his complaints of Asus/Android. It's not a flaw of Android by any means.
Should Android stop releasing operating systems? No! They have nothing to do with hardware. Their goal is to develop competent software with reasonable releases, and they do that.
This intermediate time of merging the software onto the hardware? Yes, it is annoying, but it's expected. Android releases their software at the same time to EVERYONE. It takes time to develop the OS for a product. This time exists in Apple products as well most likely, but Apple has the fortunate benefit of not releasing the software until AFTER it has been fitted for the limited number of devices they control, because they are both a hardware AND software company.
Give it time. ICS will be here eventually. I'm patient. In the meantime, I will keep running paulbrennan's build and enjoy what we already have.
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I, for one, have had enough with Android and Google. Android/Google are forever building new versions of code that manufacturing companies can not keep up with.
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And what do you think, other developers do what? Apple does the same (no wonder the old iPhones aren't supported by iOS4 and 5), just like Microsoft, Samsung, Nokia, etcetera.
New codebase is the key to the future - with new functions built in, it can be a more widespread generic base, where manufacturers have less to modify to make their own taste. And manufacturers aren't able to keep up? Seriously, if they only made a device tree, and sent it to Cyanogen Team with a few test devices, they'd have more profit than ever. They could keep up, and they are not willing to do so because then the newer devices wouldn't sell. Just like Apple, Microsoft, Samsung, etc.
Manufacturer's are not going to spend profits on older products, they already got your money! Why is Google forever coming up with new versions? Android is in developement and always trying to be like Apple. I am an android developer and thought I would be happy with developing for 50% of the market users. 50% of the market users but in the corporate world the ratio is much different.
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The Android Market has millions of devices connected (I recall someone saying over 300million). So to target only the 50%, you'd have to make an application what is useful for almost everyone. Then count with the other devs who thought about the same, and you'll drop below 20% in the most optimistic case. You can never reach 50% if you're not a name already (like EA Games, Gameloft, and other huge companies). Or if you can't afford heavy marketing, adverts, etc.
Companies that provide employees with phones and tablets is where Apple rules. Why is that? Apple products are just better. They are not cheap plastic, creaky things where every one if different and not hardly one is on the same version. I do not have an iPhone because I refuse to pay carrier's pricing but all I want from a phone is phone calls, gps, access to emails, and some web browsing.
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WRONG. Companies buy iPhones for their employees because they have contracts with a given carrier. They get them in huge numbers for cheap, because Apple is pushing them (the carriers). They get huge bonuses just because that, not to talk about a lot bigger user base.
Apple things don't rule. They are made of the same plastic, metal, and other parts (ICs, SoCs, etc), as 99% of these are manufactured in China, even assembled in China! There was a picture, where it showed that the same factory was producing iPhones on a line, and next to it were cheap tablets and phones and mp4 players, and they were using the same material, electronics, etc.
At Apple, Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola, and so on, you're paying for the brand - actually, some of the Chinese stuff can be better for half the price. Justsayin'
Phones are not game systems or video players - I am not going to watch a full length movie on a 4" screen.
Tablets on the other hand might be video players and I might play a game and I certainly will surf the web and read emails.
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Phones aren't, you're right, but when you're on the bus for 30mins, sitting in a line for the dentist, and so on, you can't have your xbox, ps3, wii with you. But you have your phone. So it's a fine time to watch a short movie (an episode of some series, etc), or play something funny (Angry Birds for an example).
Tablets are the same, except bigger, and you can use them as a smaller form PC or laptop.
I do not have an iPAD because I thought android was better. It is not and is always trying to one up Apple but Google can not even catch up to Apple nevermind get ahead of them.
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Then you think wrong. Both sides have their own pros and cons, but Google is definitely ruling Apple with Android, for the first time. There were more Android phone activations just during the holidays, than iPhone sales during a YEAR.
I had high hopes for ICS but doubt it will ever come on h/w that I already own - thanks ASUS, but I understand. Why no ICS yet? Because ASUS is working on their next device as they try to make a better product than Apple.
Interesting, first you say Google shouldn't make updates, now you cry for not getting one?
If ASUS cant take google code and get it ported into a device and not have problems then why are they selling the product. The prime GPS stinks but they continue to sell them, ASUS fixed the problem by repacking the PRIME but not retrofitting the nonworking Primes. We pay for their development, they are not looking back - profits comes from new sales.
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Asus won't release ICS until they get enough sales of the Prime first. You DID NOT pay for their development, there was no word about providing further updates in the future (there was a part, where it said, that Asus MAY send updates) for sure in the contract, you simply purchased the device, with the actual software on it. About Prime problems, yes, it's a concern they won't retrofit the problematic ones, but I'm sure they will come around that sooner or later.
I am saving for an iPAD and will keep the Android toys around for the kids. ASUS finally made me see the light.
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Okay then Apple boy. All of your sentences were just words from someone's mouth who bought an Asus Transformer expecting iPad features. I can tell you for sure: YOU WON'T GET THEM. This is not frikken Apple, this is ANDROID. Learn the difference between an open source, community driven operation system, and a closed source licensed and overpriced product.
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It's obvious that Android wasn't made for you. You people have to understand just some people think they like something but really don't. Try out apple, see how restricting they are. Maybe you will see their "light"
just to say.........if Apple was the bomb then why do people feel the need to jailbreak.........i think the term says it all. Freedom over the system to change what they want to try make it better ( sounds familiar ).......and get free **** of course (coughfilesharecough get it right up you )
just outta curiosity.........whys the logo got a mouldy half eaten granny smith on it anyway rather than a fully glorious golden delicious?
hmmm
Go for Apple, sell your transformer and give it a shot.
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I'll take that tablet off Ur hands since u don't want it..........
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I was about to post that. It might be nvflashable, which is more than you can say about mine
His ratio of posts is like 20-1 whining about ICS not being here to actual non-ICS posts..lol
I guess he bought the TF101 expecting it to be ICS any day, if you purchase an item with above reasonable expectations, when you get disappointed it is your own fault.
Lesson? Study the device you purchase better before you purchase next time.
LOL and after getting reamed for such a thoughtless post he edited it to remove all the thoughtlessness haha
Probably all talk. He will keep the tablet I'm sure.
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I remember reading your post saying you own that car. You don't need the money.
So is your tf nvflash capable and how high does it clock ?
Mine has bad light bleed etc and well a swap or upgrade would be nice
Then you can sell and buy a nice shiny new ipad 2s
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