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Maybe we should organize a boycott of the Galaxy Tab

I apologize for making another "I'm mad at Samsung for..." thread, but after trying for the past hours to get the JI5 update and failing, I'm a bit angrier than I usually am and want to hurt Samsung somewhere where they will feel it while not going to extremes like trying to organize a class action suit.
Ever since the Galaxy S line came out they really haven't done much to support it except release 3 buggy updates for three of the phones and completely ignore the one that's been out in the States for the longest (until the "made you look" event of today), yet they're so eager to show off that Galaxy Tab that they want everyone to be interested in and buy next month. I suggest simply spreading the word to everyone that no one should but that thing until they at least get their house in order and get the Galaxy S line up to the basic functionality they should have had out of the box. Spread the word that they apparently can't support the products they release and that nobody should touch those things until they can prove they are going to stand behind the products they want us to spend our hard earned money on.
Before some of you start flaming me, I do very well know this is a forum for people who mod their phones and have no intention of staying stock. I mod my phones too. Even with the fixes I've flashed I still have issues with GPS and the phone resetting. I appreciate everything the community has done to help make these phones better and I whole heartedly thank them for doing so, but at the same time there's a whole company with a division of people getting paid to do this that hasn't been able to supply us with one good fix after nearly 3 months time. It's time we should make every potential customer aware of that.

I'm boycotting the U.S. release of the Galaxy Tab, but only because I find the fact that all 4 U.S. carriers disabling the phone functions of the thing (the international version won't have this limitation) as a hugely retarded move.
I'm not interested in carrying around 2 huge slabs-o-touchscreen all the darn time. If I were I'd be an iDiot and worship Steve Jobs.

That's understandable, personally I could care less about being able to make calls on tablet. It's not like you would be able to take calls on both your cell phone and the tablet. And I sure wouldn't care for having another phone number.
I love my iPad btw!

masterotaku said:
I'm boycotting the U.S. release of the Galaxy Tab, but only because I find the fact that all 4 U.S. carriers disabling the phone functions of the thing (the international version won't have this limitation) as a hugely retarded move.
I'm not interested in carrying around 2 huge slabs-o-touchscreen all the darn time. If I were I'd be an iDiot and worship Steve Jobs.
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Why would you carry it around if you can't use it as a phone?
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To be honest I am not surprised they are disabling the calling feature. In fact I would be surprised if they didn't.
I mean I for one wouldn't want to stop using my vibrant to use that giant tablet.
Also no matter what it will have wifi so it can be more like a laptop on the go and playing games on it will be awesome from the looks of it.

Well if they are just disabling the feature then that means the hardware to make calls is still built in so someone could root it and make calls anyway. But I'm still not getting one cause it'll be just like my phone. Tablets are a median of a phone and a notebook but nowadays the Ipad is the best out.
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Can't say I'm feeling pouty and petulant about Samsung in general, but I crossed four Tabs off my Xmas list when they announced the phone functionality was disabled.
As for the frequent comments about the Tab being too large to use as a phone, I use my phone as a speakerphone most of the time, and Bluetooth headsets put the final nail in the coffin for that argument.

I really doubt the S Tab will sell much anyway.
Smaller screen than the iPad, lower resolution, considerably worse battery life, for almost the same price....
Plus, given our experience with Samsung, it will probably not be upgraded to Gingerbread, which according to Google is the first version of Android actually meant for tablets.
Who in their right mind will buy the Tab?

What made me mad is they have more accessories slated for that thing than the very phones they already have out.
Docks, keyboards and all kinds of goodies. Oh yeah they all plug into the bottom of the Tab not the top like our retarded phones.

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Why would you carry it around if you can't use it as a phone?
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Exactly!
Since it's functionally crippled compared to it's European counterpart I don't plan on carrying one around.
It's an interesting device, and will probably have a modicum of success, but the deliberate lockdown of an existing feature is one that makes me uninterested in it.
Given that it's carrier unsubsidized pricing internationally is likely going to make it more expensive than the iPad, if I were to develop an interest in an Android tablet/mid that didn't support phone functions, I'd just SPEND LESS MONEY on a comparable 7" tablet that doesn't have phone functions. There are several...

Huge flaw with Samsung tablet, not sure if mentioned
At the moment pretty much every App available doesn't even support the tablets 1024x600 resolution so they will be to small for the screen or will stretch and look like crap.

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Huge flaw with Samsung tablet, not sure if mentioned
At the moment pretty much every App available doesn't even support the tablets 1024x600 resolution so they will be to small for the screen or will stretch and look like crap.
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I can make everything in an app support that higher res, and I font even consider myself a dev... More of a file mover.. But there are tutorials and some apps are already compatible...
Remember when donut and froyo came out not all apps were compatible.. Some apps dont work on donut now...
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WTF does this have to do with the Vibrant? Oh, can all of you stop blaming everything on Samsung? It seems like only half the people on this forum has sense and understands that T-Mobile makes the final call on updates.

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WTF does this have to do with the Vibrant? Oh, can all of you stop blaming everything on Samsung? It seems like only half the people on this forum has sense and understands that T-Mobile makes the final call on updates.
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Dude, you are drawn to these threads like a fly is to sh!t!
T-Mobile has its problems, but what about the rest of the companies carrying the Galaxy S? Have any released Froyo, or successful compass fixes?
No? Must be a worldwide carrier conspiracy to make Samsung look bad, by delaying fixes and OS upgrades.....
No, Samsung's track records with product support just sucks. That's why some are pissed.

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Wait a second, let me get this straight. You are upset because an unofficial, probably beta quality firmware wasn't available properly through a piece of software that hasn't been released to the US market yet?

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Wait a second, let me get this straight. You are upset because an unofficial, probably beta quality firmware wasn't available properly through a piece of software that hasn't been released to the US market yet?
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Nice troll, since I don't believe you are actually as stupid as you're trying to get us to believe.
No, we're all pissed off about Samsung's crappy support. I bought a phone with a GPS built in. I can't use my GPS because it doesn't work.
A little fact which has been repeatedly explained to you. So either you choose to ignore it so you can troll more, or you have major issues with reading comprehension, take your pick.
And, as I said elsewhere, no one forced you to bring your fanboi self into this thread.

I'll hold out for MOTO or HTC
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That's great, let's organize a boycott of something that 99.9% of people have no plan to purchase in the first place. In other words, we're going to have to seek out people who want to buy the Tab and then dissuade them. Personally, I think I won't.

psshh, who is gonna buy that over sized phone anyway, too big for been a phone, too small for been a tablet

Xoom or gslate?

Ok im deciding between the xoom and the gslate. xoom supposed to be out in the next 2 weeks, gslate by the end of march. they're similar in specs. But should I sacrifice the bigger screen (10.1 inch) on the xoom for a "possible" smaller (8.9 inch) 3d screen on the gslate. Gslate is definitely capable of recording 3d though. I have tmobile as my carrier also but I don't mind signing a contract with verizon either since tmobile doesn't have 3g in my area yet (I guess they haven't have time to update our network cuz they're busy bull sh*tting about their 4g network). So which one do you think is better?
Ps: I've also heard that if the gslate has 3d screen, it'd require a pair of 3d glasses. I have no 3d tv either.
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I prefer the Xoom, since I think all these 3D are a gimmick.

Mokurex said:
I prefer the Xoom, since I think all these 3D are a gimmick.
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This^^^^^^

im leaning toward the G Slate for myself. Im on TMo and I prefer a smaller joint. I almost bout a galaxy tab then these showcased at the CES. I would prefer a smaller galaxy tab like screen for mobile purposes. If i want a 9-10 inch joint id buy a laptop or netbook. But, they will still get my money...lol

I am leaning towards the G-Slate for 2 reasons.
1) I am already a very happy T-Mobile customer and not a big fan of Verizon.
2) 3D. I already have a 3DTV and I enjoy it very much, I disagree with it being just a gimmick.

Buck Shot said:
im leaning toward the G Slate for myself. Im on TMo and I prefer a smaller joint. I almost bout a galaxy tab then these showcased at the CES. I would prefer a smaller galaxy tab like screen for mobile purposes. If i want a 9-10 inch joint id buy a laptop or netbook. But, they will still get my money...lol
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Maybe I'm crazy but I still think of LG as the cheap, low-end consumer appliance manufaturer. They made a microwave I had years ago.
And, I dunno, as such I'm skeptical about build quality. But I'd rather something on TMO or something without a contract.
The Xoom looks awesome but I dont think I want Verizon hiding behind every MB looking to charge me more money.
Yeah, I'm kind of a pessimist.

I'm leaning towards a Wi-Fi version of the Xoom. If they don't do a W-Fi version, then I'll get a ViewSonic G-Tab and flash Honeycomb onto it.

I kinda wanted the G-Slate, since it definitely seems to look more appealing than the Xoom.. but I don't know about the 8.9'' screen size. If it was at least the iPad's 9.7'' size.. I don't think I want to get any smaller than that. And then I hear that the Xoom's screen quality isn't even up to par with the entirely irrelevant to this discussion BB Playbook.
I don't know what to want ._.

Buck Shot said:
im leaning toward the G Slate for myself. Im on TMo and I prefer a smaller joint. I almost bout a galaxy tab then these showcased at the CES. I would prefer a smaller galaxy tab like screen for mobile purposes. If i want a 9-10 inch joint id buy a laptop or netbook. But, they will still get my money...lol
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Well I'm kinda bored with the Windows OS. In fact, I hardly use it at all anymore ever since I got my N1. But I prefer the 10.1 inch on a tablet though, but 8.9 really doesn't make much of a difference to me either.
To other commenters: LG isn't a cheap manufacturer man.....they're the second biggest electronics manufacturer behind samsung in Korea. And No, I'm definitely not getting a Playbook since I've never owned a Blackberry phones to sync it with.
Where did you hear about the screen on the Xoom?

Originally Posted by Mokurex
I prefer the Xoom, since I think all these 3D are a gimmick.
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This^^^^^^
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+1!
Get the Xoom, assuming the price isn't outrageous. Until proven otherwise I don't believe that the 3D screen won't degrade the visual quality on the LG unit.
Here's a limited shootout based on what is currently known:
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/107...dia-tegra-2-nvidia-tegra-2-3d-processor-i.htm

LG=GE. You remember GE right? Their logo is only stamped over almost every light bulb in America.

Remember this?
@tdcrooks if you want to do custom roms, then buy elsewhere, we'll continue with our strategy that is working thanks.
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This alone will probably keep me away from Motorola for a very long time.
The G-Slate looks very appealing to me, with or without the 3D experience.
Although I'd rather buy HTC, which will undoubtedly come later in the year.

I whould love honeycomb on 7" with nvidias tegra2... that whould be cool
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Get the xoom, it's essentially the nexus tablet.

Yea me too. A nice dual core, 7 inch honeycomb. I feel that's a good pocketable size.
I was going to by the Samsung tab. But then news of these came down the wire. In the end, decided I would wait.
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Well early leak says xoom could be out at the price of $699 unconfirmed, I hope it's the unsubsidized price though. Gslate has not yet been priced. LG is a good brand cuz I had this messaging phone before the n1, LG neon, anybody knows of it? It was a great messaging phone. Thanks for link too.
But I also don't think that the xoom is the nexus tablet either. It'll definitely be locked down. If xoom is the nexus tablet because it has no customization on it, then so is the gslate.
But hopefully lol both of them are going to be low price unsubsidized.
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wang1404 said:
Well early leak says xoom could be out at the price of $699 unconfirmed, I hope it's the unsubsidized price though. Gslate has not yet been priced. LG is a good brand cuz I had this messaging phone before the n1, LG neon, anybody knows of it? It was a great messaging phone. Thanks for link too.
But I also don't think that the xoom is the nexus tablet either. It'll definitely be locked down. If xoom is the nexus tablet because it has no customization on it, then so is the gslate.
But hopefully lol both of them are going to be low price unsubsidized.
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No, the Xoom is definitely the "Nexus Tablet". Not because it is pure Honeycomb, but because it is Google's lead Honeycomb tablet device. Just like the Nexus, apps will be developed on the Xoom, it will be shown in all those major app release videos like the Nexus One/S, and Google will use it to demo any tablet developments they make.
Although I'm about to contradict myself, the only reason I wouldn't believe it is the Nexus tablet is because it is tied to a carrier. And even has the Verizon branding on it. The Nexus One and Nexus S were simply buy it if you want to, it wasn't tied to anyone, and had no other branding but the manufacturer and Google.
In this situation, I believe it was "Google asked Motorola to make a tablet", not "Motorola made their own Honeycomb tablet cause they felt like it". I'm really assuming that Google will handle all the updates for the Xoom, and they used Verizon cause they needed to put the device out on a major network with amazing advertising power.

Eclair~ said:
No, the Xoom is definitely the "Nexus Tablet". Not because it is pure Honeycomb, but because it is Google's lead Honeycomb tablet device. Just like the Nexus, apps will be developed on the Xoom, it will be shown in all those major app release videos like the Nexus One/S, and Google will use it to demo any tablet developments they make.
Although I'm about to contradict myself, the only reason I wouldn't believe it is the Nexus tablet is because it is tied to a carrier. And even has the Verizon branding on it. The Nexus One and Nexus S were simply buy it if you want to, it wasn't tied to anyone, and had no other branding but the manufacturer and Google.
In this situation, I believe it was "Google asked Motorola to make a tablet", not "Motorola made their own Honeycomb tablet cause they felt like it". I'm really assuming that Google will handle all the updates for the Xoom, and they used Verizon cause they needed to put the device out on a major network with amazing advertising power.
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It had to be google who asked for motorola to make it. you've just convinced me the xoom is the nexus tablet because I remember at d dive into mobile, andy rubin brought the xoom with him. +1 to you.
It just pulls a trigger to me that google was using samsung galaxy s to be the nexus s because they didn't have 3.0 and the xoom ready yet. So they just did a quick search and found that sgs is the most powerful phone back then yet. But that didn't please everybody of course.
Like you said google need a powerful network to rely on, so verizon is clearly the winner. Let me add to that though. Google doesn't play favorite. They've already released their babies on at&t and tmobile except for verizon and sprint. Plus motorola has had a very good relationship with verizon thanks to the droid brand.
I think im gonna go with the xoom. But I'll keep waiting and weigh both of them some more when more official informations are out. But verizon and motorola better keep the promise to upgrade the chip to lte 4g. Motorola just ditched the cliq xt if that proves what I said.
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Price Price Price.
Until I know if the Wifi only versions will even exist and at what price point no point thinking about it.
If it wasnt for Notion Inks hideous giantbezel design theyd be a no brainer because of the sky high price points being thrown around.

Xoom 2

Possible new Xoom accidentally outed?
http://www.androidguys.com/2011/05/...unced-products-zaha-slimline-tracy-xl-xoom-2/
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No news there. Just hype. Of course they're working on another tablet. There is no evidence in that article of any details whatsoever. Just an "I hope" attitude of changes they THINK are problems.

zehkaiser said:
No news there. Just hype. Of course they're working on another tablet. There is no evidence in that article of any details whatsoever. Just an "I hope" attitude of changes they THINK are problems.
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Oh, don't kid yourself. The new one will come out by christmas, probably sooner. Let's hope that the 4g upgrade happens before then...

maybe I'm the only one but the tech world moves to fast for me. I just bought my xoom and its old tech with in a few months. I was also reading that there's a new galexy tab 4g comming out in the fall hell the 10.1 isn't even released yet. Then there's the tegra 3, I'm all for advancement but how do you keep up, hell how do you afford to?
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maybe I'm the only one but the tech world moves to fast for me. I just bought my xoom and its old tech with in a few months. I was also reading that there's a new galexy tab 4g comming out in the fall hell the 10.1 isn't even released yet. Then there's the tegra 3, I'm all for advancement but how do you keep up, hell how do you afford to?
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I assume that you do not keep up! There is no time or money to follow the way that tech changes.....If what you have covers your needs then you are ok.

Give us our update, then talk about a second Xoom!!!

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Give us our update, then talk about a second Xoom!!!
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I agree. That's the part that upsets me. This product hasn't reached its full potential, where's the 4g ? where's the SD card? Yes I know I can root then get SD card working but they (moto) made promise.
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I'm keeping this until a tegra3 device.

Thanks to the OP for the interesting tidbit. I think the significant news is that instead of the usual annual product cycle, it's now semi-annual.
As some said, this isn't surprising for Android tablets. At Computex '11, Asus and others are already announcing their 2nd wave of roll-outs for tabs this year.
Current owners understandably feel some angst at the prospect of being forgotten. There are two components to after-sale support. On the Goog side, the Xoom got the 3.1 update first, as it was used to develop HC and no modification was needed. I think this will hold at least to ICS. After that, it'll probably be a DIY affair, since Goog will have a new ref device for ICS.
On the Moto side, OS support is lacking, perhaps because the OS itself is a moving target. But SD-card and 4G are major items and aren't something Moto can sweep under the carpet. They'll happen, although probably later than sooner.
Though, I wouldn't count on anything else, as developing firmware for the new toys will have higher priority. It's just business. We all know this is the bleeding edge. It's a safe bet that most Xoomers here, being early adopters, will have a new squeeze when the quad-cores and ICS drop.

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Oh, don't kid yourself. The new one will come out by christmas, probably sooner. Let's hope that the 4g upgrade happens before then...
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I thought that too.
Why would they push out another tablet for no reason before ICS?

This makes my upcoming return decision easier.

obviously they are working on a new tablet but no way will it get released this year. If it does get released this year (which it isn't) fortunately for me I bought my 3g xoom at best buy and have the buy back program they offer, as long as best buy carries it I'm good

Yep, returning mine as well. The thing that gets me/I dont understand is...arent these significant processor changes going to alter the architecture enough to render the "Beta Tabs" obsolete? Meaning...the Xoom will have had a complete life cycle of 2 months and the SamTab of -1 month. If your products have a life span into the negatives...something is wrong with your strategy. People will stop buying Android Tabs until the CoreWar companies have gone broke enough to slow down R&D. Sucks, I just got a Nexus S and Xoom thinking Id at least get software updates for ICS, but thats starting to seem like a vain premise. Im not hating/*****ing...just rap'n about the state of this tech.
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Yep, returning mine as well. The thing that gets me/I dont understand is...arent these significant processor changes going to alter the architecture enough to render the "Beta Tabs" obsolete? Meaning...the Xoom will have had a complete life cycle of 2 months and the SamTab of -1 month. If your products have a life span into the negatives...something is wrong with your strategy. People will stop buying Android Tabs until the CoreWar companies have gone broke enough to slow down R&D. Sucks, I just got a Nexus S and Xoom thinking Id at least get software updates for ICS, but thats starting to seem like a vain premise. Im not hating/*****ing...just rap'n about the state of this tech.
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You guys do realize this isn't only android. They're already talking about ipad 3s. Iphone just got to verizon 8 months after atts release and vzw has said the next iphone will land with them sametime it does with att. Vzw users won't even have theirs for a year. This is just another ***** fest thread
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Keep those stones your casting "pee-limb." Talking about current events is not the same as *****ing. Your crying witch because you dont want people to see your broom. You are *****ING ABOUT *****ING.
Anyway, now that the dirt has been fell from the shoulder...I just purchased the Xoom 4 days ago, so I would be kind of foolish to not return and wait. I really like the size and weight and pulled the trigger knowing I'd wait on SD (32 GB is nice on internal!) but at this point there are not only newer options coming out but they are cheaper as well. My first reply was actually more of a question, "Will a dual core device run *most* of a Quad Core OS, or are they to different for the old tech to carry on?" And interesting as well...if tablets are to one day replace other mainstream forms of daily computing, wont it eventually be a broad range of hardware running one OS anyway. I mean...I dont have an Alienware, so why would I need/expect a basement price on a bleeding edge tablet, say...5 years from now?
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Keep those stones your casting "pee-limb." Talking about current events is not the same as *****ing. Your crying witch because you dont want people to see your broom. You are *****ING ABOUT *****ING.
Anyway, now that the dirt has been fell from the shoulder...I just purchased the Xoom 4 days ago, so I would be kind of foolish to not return and wait. I really like the size and weight and pulled the trigger knowing I'd wait on SD (32 GB is nice on internal!) but at this point there are not only newer options coming out but they are cheaper as well. My first reply was actually more of a question, "Will a dual core device run *most* of a Quad Core OS, or are they to different for the old tech to carry on?" And interesting as well...if tablets are to one day replace other mainstream forms of daily computing, wont it eventually be a broad range of hardware running one OS anyway. I mean...I dont have an Alienware, so why would I need/expect a basement price on a bleeding edge tablet, say...5 years from now?
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I purchased my xoom 4 days ago but I'm going to return it and wait 9 months so I can get the new one, lmfao. Their talking about quad cores now and the galaxy tab hasn't even dropped. Yup, keep waiting lol
Quadcore project kal-el
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBvaDtshLY8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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You guys do realize this isn't only android. They're already talking about ipad 3s. Iphone just got to verizon 8 months after atts release and vzw has said the next iphone will land with them sametime it does with att. Vzw users won't even have theirs for a year. This is just another ***** fest thread
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Difference being that their products were functional when they got them. It's been months and months and months and the SD Card and 4G update are nowhere to be found. It's disgusting. At this point, I truly do not think that either update is actually coming. The fact that they're more interested in selling their next incomplete product than fixing the mess they shoveled out initially is obscene. This is my first Motorola Android product, and after this mess I think it may be the last.

MikeyMike01 said:
Difference being that their products were functional when they got them. It's been months and months and months and the SD Card and 4G update are nowhere to be found. It's disgusting. At this point, I truly do not think that either update is actually coming. The fact that they're more interested in selling their next incomplete product than fixing the mess they shoveled out initially is obscene. This is my first Motorola Android product, and after this mess I think it may be the last.
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Xoom is and was functional when you bought it. If you wanted sd card then you should've never bought the xoom
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Slim...your fanboy is showing. I'm off this thread. Christ.
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abowlby said:
Slim...your fanboy is showing. I'm off this thread. Christ.
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Yes, truth hurts. Go cry somewhere else. The SD slot is the most pathetic argument there is. You buy something as if they actually gave you and indication of any timeline on that feature as well as they NEVER advertise anything about that. They do however advertise 4G which is a complaint but still they didn't give any exact time frame, I believe they said 2nd quarter, which hasn't ended yet
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Should I sell my galaxy nexus and get the nexus 4? If yes, how?

Hi guys,
I've been pondering over this. Maybe I could even consider the galaxy s3. What do you think?
The nexus 4 or the galaxy s3 or just stick with the galaxy nexus.
I live in singapore. So getting the nexus 4 is a little difficult. I could use eBay to find local sellers or from the US/UK/AUS.
I can also use sites that give me a us address to purchase. However, the play store has none in stock..
What do you recommend I do? Thanks.
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shockem said:
Hi guys,
I've been pondering over this. Maybe I could even consider the galaxy s3. What do you think?
The nexus 4 or the galaxy s3 or just stick with the galaxy nexus.
I live in singapore. So getting the nexus 4 is a little difficult. I could use eBay to find local sellers or from the US/UK/AUS.
I can also use sites that give me a us address to purchase. However, the play store has none in stock..
What do you recommend I do? Thanks.
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I would stick with the Gnex. If I would have to choose between the N4 or the GSIII, I would choose the N4, simply because I wouldn't buy anything other than a Nexus device or something similar. And the price/performance ratio is just better.
But if I had the Gnex, I would stick with it. Sure, the N4 is better. Almost every new phone is better than the previous one. I would always skip one generation though. I had the Nexus S, and now I have the Nexus 4. If you skip one generation, you really feel change. Not saying that you won't feel change if you come from a Gnex though.
It's a personal preference and we can't really help you with that. The only legit reason to get a N4 (versus getting another phone) that I can think of is the price. But the cheapest is to just use your Gnex for another year.

Well since you can't order one I would say stick with the gal nex. Only if your leaving a ****ty place like sprint for T-Mobile and your old phone won't work. I don't think the nexus 4 is that great it doesn't feel as fast as I expected. Also I hate the nexus 4 screen.
But on T-Mobile I get really fast data and my bill is 100 bucks less a month.
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+1 on staying with the Gnex, especially since getting your hands on a N4 would be a pain. I wouldn't bother getting an S3 either; you might as well wait a bit and pick up the S4 when it comes out...
Are you unhappy with your Gnex for some reason, or just thinking about an upgrade?

tengen said:
+1 on staying with the Gnex, especially since getting your hands on a N4 would be a pain. I wouldn't bother getting an S3 either; you might as well wait a bit and pick up the S4 when it comes out...
Are you unhappy with your Gnex for some reason, or just thinking about an upgrade?
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+1 on this, right now I think everyone should stick with whatever phone they have and be ready for a 2013 android phones invasion. There will be so many great choices, just a little more patience.
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barondebxl said:
+1 on this, right now I think everyone should stick with whatever phone they have and be ready for a 2013 android phones invasion. There will be so many great choices, just a little more patience.
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But yet they will probably release with the older Android version JellyBean 4.1.X. Which is always like that because last CES released 4.0.X when 4.1.X was already out.
I disagree, Nexus devices will always be on the top of the chain in terms of ROM and kernel development and the best stock experience possible. No carrier restrictions, no bloatware, not receiving updates 5-7 months later. Not to mention this phone will be one of the first devices to receive Android 5.0.X. Galaxy Nexus remained relevant all of last year regardless of all phones being released. Once a Nexus, always a Nexus.

It all depends on your budget.
Paid a total of $370ish with tax for my N4, but was able to sell my GN for $300 shortly after. So for 70 bucks it was worth it for me.
The upgrade is undoubtedly worth it though, the speed increase and over all performance is a world's better on the N4 compared to my old GN.
Good luck!

There's no other phone than Nexus:good:

i love my gnex. so much so that im having trouble rationalizing why i need to get a n4.

simms22 said:
i love my gnex. so much so that im having trouble rationalizing why i need to get a n4.
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Because morfic made a Trinity kernel thread on the N4 forums just today even though there was a thread on his site, so therefore you must buy one to contribute to his XDA thread duh

zephiK said:
Because morfic made a Trinity kernel thread on the N4 forums just today even though there was a thread on his site, so therefore you must buy one to contribute to his XDA thread duh
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lol, just minutes ago i told him the same. someone needs to take care of the noobs

You could try Kijiji or Crsigslist to sell or trade the phone

Thanks for the replies guys. I will let you know of the decision soon. If i can get my hands on one easily through ebay then i will go for it. If not i will stick.

I had a Gnex before my N4.
Get the N4.

Try Swappa. I got tired of waiting for my shipping confirmation from my order on Nov 13th, so I canceled it, and on Dec 2nd, I bought a BNIB 16GB off Swappa for $410. I paid $15 more and got mine in 3 days. I've never owned a GNex though so I can't comment on it. But I can tell you, this is the best device I have ever owned, and I will own nothing but Nexus from here on out.
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It's not much of an upgrade IMO. I'd wait for the next phone, but that's just me. It's not like you will run a different OS or anything. Cameras are good on both, good specs on both, good displays, and you'll have to rebuy accessories.
It's your call though

mobileboost said:
It's not much of an upgrade IMO. I'd wait for the next phone, but that's just me. It's not like you will run a different OS or anything. Cameras are good on both, good specs on both, good displays, and you'll have to rebuy accessories.
It's your call though
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mobileboost said:
It's not much of an upgrade IMO. I'd wait for the next phone, but that's just me. It's not like you will run a different OS or anything. Cameras are good on both, good specs on both, good displays, and you'll have to rebuy accessories.
It's your call though
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Camera on GN is actually not that good.

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Camera on GN is actually not that good.
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now you know that ill say that youre wrong, all shot from a galaxy nexus..
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Simms your pictures always make the gnexus look so good. Since the beginning even the nexus s.
I have arranged with a local seller to get my nexus 4 tomorrow for SGD$650 which I believe is a reasonable price for the 16GB version.
Anything I should look out for?
Once again, I am very thankful for all your help and suggestions
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google play edition phone's Failed*

*GOOGLE PLAY EDITION PHONES FAIL*
When the nexus 7 2013 was announced at the google's conference android 4.3 was introduce. Virtual surround sound, restricted profiles, trim support, open GL ES 3.0, bluetooth 4.0 was more or less under the hood features you can come to expect from it. Once Google was done glorifying it's latest tablet, i said to my self ok GEP(Google edition phones) time to see if you will receive updates in timely manner, like the nexus line. And man am i so glad i didn't spend my hard earned money on one these nexus wanna-be's. It makes absolutely no sense to spend $600+ on one of these when you can cut that price in half and get a phone with comparable specs, that receive updates when they release. There's no excuse, even the galaxy-nexus which is even older than the GEP's received the update in time. Sorry GEP owners i'd just stick with a nexus!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=navPos9JOfU

you're entitled to your opinion, i guess.
i'm very happy with my converted phone.

Sorry to hear, see ya later!

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*GOOGLE PLAY EDITION PHONES FAIL*
When the nexus 7 2013 was announced at the google's conference android 4.3 was introduce. Virtual surround sound, restricted profiles, trim support, open GL ES 3.0, bluetooth 4.0 was more or less under the hood features you can come to expect from it. Once Google was done glorifying it's latest tablet, i said to my self ok GEP(Google edition phones) time to see if you will receive updates in timely manner, like the nexus line. And man am i so glad i didn't spend my hard earned money on one these nexus wanna-be's. It makes absolutely no sense to spend $600+ on one of these when you can cut that price in half and get a phone with comparable specs, that receive updates when they release. There's no excuse, even the galaxy-nexus which is even older than the GEP's received the update in time. Sorry GEP owners i'd just stick with a nexus!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=navPos9JOfU
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I think this was one of the most unintelligible things I've ever read. Thanks for sharing your opinion!

Man, someone sounds like a crybaby.
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SNNTEC said:
*GOOGLE PLAY EDITION PHONES FAIL*
When the nexus 7 2013 was announced at the google's conference android 4.3 was introduce. Virtual surround sound, restricted profiles, trim support, open GL ES 3.0, bluetooth 4.0 was more or less under the hood features you can come to expect from it. Once Google was done glorifying it's latest tablet, i said to my self ok GEP(Google edition phones) time to see if you will receive updates in timely manner, like the nexus line. And man am i so glad i didn't spend my hard earned money on one these nexus wanna-be's. It makes absolutely no sense to spend $600+ on one of these when you can cut that price in half and get a phone with comparable specs, that receive updates when they release. There's no excuse, even the galaxy-nexus which is even older than the GEP's received the update in time. Sorry GEP owners i'd just stick with a nexus!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=navPos9JOfU
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*YOUR GRAMMAR FAILS*
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The gpe just got the 4.3 update a few minutes ago. This thread is a massive fail

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The gpe just got the 4.3 update a few minutes ago. This thread is a massive fail
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Lol.
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So what a week/ week an a half is to much for you?
SNNTEC said:
*GOOGLE PLAY EDITION PHONES FAIL*
When the nexus 7 2013 was announced at the google's conference android 4.3 was introduce. Virtual surround sound, restricted profiles, trim support, open GL ES 3.0, bluetooth 4.0 was more or less under the hood features you can come to expect from it. Once Google was done glorifying it's latest tablet, i said to my self ok GEP(Google edition phones) time to see if you will receive updates in timely manner, like the nexus line. And man am i so glad i didn't spend my hard earned money on one these nexus wanna-be's. It makes absolutely no sense to spend $600+ on one of these when you can cut that price in half and get a phone with comparable specs, that receive updates when they release. There's no excuse, even the galaxy-nexus which is even older than the GEP's received the update in time. Sorry GEP owners i'd just stick with a nexus!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=navPos9JOfU
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bobruels44 said:
So what a week/ week an a half is to much for you?
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Considering some Nexus devices havent gotten it yet...... pretty damn good to me

monkeypaws said:
Lol.
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Lol.... 4.3 is getting pushed now.. LOL..
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Sigh.... another one of these posts?
There's a few people complaining on Google+ as well because of lack of updates. I realize this is XDA and we always have the latest and greatest, but sometimes you just have to be happy that you have a fully functional device and enjoy life.

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It makes absolutely no sense to spend $600+ on one of these when you can cut that price in half and get a phone with comparable specs,
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Nexus 4 has comparable specs to an HTC One or S4 GPE edition? In what world?
I'll have what he's drinking....

So much fail
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SNNTEC said:
*GOOGLE PLAY EDITION PHONES FAIL*
When the nexus 7 2013 was announced at the google's conference android 4.3 was introduce. Virtual surround sound, restricted profiles, trim support, open GL ES 3.0, bluetooth 4.0 was more or less under the hood features you can come to expect from it. Once Google was done glorifying it's latest tablet, i said to my self ok GEP(Google edition phones) time to see if you will receive updates in timely manner, like the nexus line. And man am i so glad i didn't spend my hard earned money on one these nexus wanna-be's. It makes absolutely no sense to spend $600+ on one of these when you can cut that price in half and get a phone with comparable specs, that receive updates when they release. There's no excuse, even the galaxy-nexus which is even older than the GEP's received the update in time. Sorry GEP owners i'd just stick with a nexus!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=navPos9JOfU
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I read this post and said wow SNNTEC FAILED. Talk about putting your foot in your mouth hope you didn't step in any poop that wouldn't taste good.

Hahaha if I was this guy id abandon my xda account and start over with a new identity
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