There are so many kernels for the nexus 4 which is great, but it makes choosing one so hard!
What kernel has a good balance between battery and performance for 4.4.2??
And what app do you recommend for controlling the various kernel settings?
I'm running a purity build from about 6 weeks ago.
Thanks!
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I use hell dokter and use tricksterMod for control, sot +4h and good performance, no hickups on angry birds go
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I'm using Matr1x at the moment, 4:20 screen-on-time which is much better than the 3h I was getting on stock.
Words of advice my friend. Not all phones were made the same. Therefore, others configuration might not work well with your phone. Just try them all and run some tests yourself. That's the right way to do it. This is a nexus. Be adventurous mate.
p/s: Start off with some popular ones like franco/sema/ak/hells-core/matrix.
In my case mtr1x kernel gives me the performance but with good battery life, hellscore or hellsdoctor are a bit better in bettery life but in performance not so good as matr1x kernel. You must decide whats more important for you.
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May i ask where do you guys see that "performance is not as good" on some kernels? Because the 1.5Ghz Quad Core should handle pretty much anything, even with a battery friendly kernel. I'm using Hells + MOD i have a great battery life and no problems with performance at all. Granted, i dont play 3d heavy games, but still... Or are we talking about lower scores on benchmarks that mean nothing to day to day using performance?
In games it sometimes worked not very well maybe an issue with the New minimum Frequency of 81mhz. I dont care about Benchmarks.?
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Somewhat new to the N7 and I would like to know what are the goods/bads of the kernels out there. I am currently on paranoid (latest) ROM and using the latest stable motley kernel. What kernel are you all rocking and what benefits can you share? Lets hear performance, tweaks, battery life, issues, stable vs experimental status, etc....
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Trinity or faux. I am running faux now, and its an enhanced stock veron. But there is another version wich has 520gpu and higher clock speeds.
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Obviously like roms, the suitability and performance of a kernel are highly opinionated and depend on what you do.
I use Faux's kernels, and I have for a while, because they are stable, and the es version offers good battery life. Faux's kernel, even though clocked at 'only' 1.2GHz for the es version, has very good performance and I have no lag. The gaming fix makes the kernel play significantly better IMO with some apps and games not suited to the tegra 3. With some other kernels I experienced low framerate on the homescreen, not with this one.
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I don't really see the need. The one is fast as hell stock. Pretty cool though thanks for posting
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ceelo2008 said:
I don't really see the need. The one is fast as hell stock. Pretty cool though thanks for posting
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I see the need...... it could serve as extra heating in the winter here in Sweden.
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I think I'm not going to do it until after I've bought a pair of asbestos gloves.
I noticed a lot of overheating when I had my device running on stock 1.7Ghz or higher. Really annoying that it would stop charging due to the battery overheating while in the car dock.
I have actually underclocked my device to 1.3Ghz and maintained much better battery life, with no noticeable slowdowns during usage.
This is old news if you've been following the ElementalX thread.
There's a bottleneck somewhere that prevents 2.1Ghz from being usable, plus it's probably pushing it too much.
Plus the fact it's not really needed.
Great.. now I can run my already blazing fast One even faster and get better benchmark scores! Because we all know that's what really matters.
In all seriousness there really is no need to oc devices of today. Now if you're running an old phone with slow cpu I can see the need.. but the only thing ocing is really good for is benchmarks and an external heater.
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MOD please close this thread...
Gpu needs overclocking and not the cpu.
Some games could run better, but HTC should bring this step with 4.2.2 already.
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...or it is impossible without Samsung support?
They already do. 4.3 does a great job.
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...or it is impossible without Samsung support?
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I am not sure. I flashed the latest Resurrection Remix ROM and the battery life was a lot worse than TW.
My batterylife is better with AOSP than with TW. For 4.3 I recommend slimbean and included kernel, thor kernel gives crazy good batterylife too on 4.2.2/4.3 roms but thor is banned here.
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For me Samsung roms are far more effective.
On CM based roms, i get max 2/3 days with my usage, while on Samsung roms i can get 6 days (once got 7 days of juice )
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My batterylife is better with AOSP than with TW. For 4.3 I recommend slimbean and included kernel, thor kernel gives crazy good batterylife too on 4.2.2/4.3 roms but thor is banned here.
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Thor Kernel gives better battery life than stock SlimBean?
My experience with PA 3.65 based on AOSP was mediocre in terms of battery life. I certainly love it much, much more than TW but I certainly couldn't justify keeping that ROM since it was pretty average with respect to battery. It wasn't like ridiculously bad but certainly 25-30% lesser than what stock TW usually gives me and hence I had to sadly move back to a TW based custom ROM. I am hopeful that eventually AOSP will get closer to TW in terms of battery life because in every other sense I find it better.
I was too upset to see the terrible battery life on Aosp. Only thing that keeps me away from them.
Don't know why they can't match up tw in terms of battery life.
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They already do. 4.3 does a great job.
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I'm on cyano official 10.2 and battery life is quite decent but far from the Samsung roms. But I love cyano, and I think that the more drain is worthy.
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My batterylife is better with AOSP than with TW. For 4.3 I recommend slimbean and included kernel, thor kernel gives crazy good batterylife too on 4.2.2/4.3 roms but thor is banned here.
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Why thor kernel is banned?
It is really good as you said?
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They already do.
Elvecio said:
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On CM 10.2 or PA 3.99 I use SetCPU to create 3 profiles;
1) Screen off, max CPU=400, Governor=conservative
2) On call state, Max CPU= 500, governor= the same as the ROM
3) battery< %10, Max CPU=1000, Governor= the same as the ROM
One more thing; I don't think Samsung gives the same effort on giving a smooth experience and I don't think it is about bad software. I think the software is well-coded to perform efficiently but the CPU jump is tuned to be lower and slower intentionally. So it gives some choppiness compared to CM or any AOSP ROM but it also saves some energy from the CPU (or GPU at certain times)..
Basicly speed comes with cunsumption
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On CM 10.2 or PA 3.99 I use SetCPU to create 3 profiles;
1) Screen off, max CPU=400, Governor=conservative
2) On call state, Max CPU= 500, governor= the same as the ROM
3) battery< %10, Max CPU=1000, Governor= the same as the ROM
One more thing; I don't think Samsung gives the same effort on giving a smooth experience and I don't think it is about bad software. I think the software is well-coded to perform efficiently but the CPU jump is tuned to be lower and slower intentionally. So it gives some choppiness compared to CM or any AOSP ROM but it also saves some energy from the CPU (or GPU at certain times)..
Basicly speed comes with cunsumption
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Thanks. I applied all your settings and i set zzmoove as default governor (seems that is more battery friendly than pegasusq).
The story that you said about sammy roms is embarassing. I had an iPhone 4 before my Note 2 and it was completely smooth with a downclocked single core 1 ghz cpu. And battery life was pretty decent. I can't believe that android need so much power.
So, we can assume that all the other smartphone with great battery life (razr maxx, droid maxx, lg g2....) have choppy ui? I think (and i hope) that is related just to the optimization. Maybe samsung is not able to optimize the Touchwiz and prefers the Jeremy-Clarckson approach of "YEAAH, MORE POWER".
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Thanks. I applied all your settings and i set zzmoove as default governor (seems that is more battery friendly than pegasusq).
The story that you said about sammy roms is embarassing. I had an iPhone 4 before my Note 2 and it was completely smooth with a downclocked single core 1 ghz cpu. And battery life was pretty decent. I can't believe that android need so much power.
So, we can assume that all the other smartphone with great battery life (razr maxx, droid maxx, lg g2....) have choppy ui? I think (and i hope) that is related just to the optimization. Maybe samsung is not able to optimize the Touchwiz and prefers the Jeremy-Clarckson approach of "YEAAH, MORE POWER".
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No. We can't assume such thing. Mine was just an assumption only for Note2/S3 Touchwiz vs AOSP.
Besides iPhone 4 is not downclocked, it has just a very high treshold for the last step (1GHz) so it comes into play very little. I remember such thing for dual core Sammy devices (or was it One X, poor memory of mine) from a kernel developer. He/she had tuned the kernel with very high tresholds for 800MHz and 1200MHz so the device was going easily 800 MHz but waiting there until there is huge load of porccesses and then jumping to higher clocks. So that waiting time on a stable was saving some battery and heat since the higher coltages are less efficient for both the battery and heating..
One more thing; the smoothness of an iPhone is not related to its CPU, it is all about the GPU which used to be higher than any same generation Android device until recently..
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No. We can't assume such thing. Mine was just an assumption only for Note2/S3 Touchwiz vs AOSP.
Besides iPhone 4 is not downclocked, it has just a very high treshold for the last step (1GHz) so it comes into play very little. I remember such thing for dual core Sammy devices (or was it One X, poor memory of mine) from a kernel developer. He/she had tuned the kernel with very high tresholds for 800MHz and 1200MHz so the device was going easily 800 MHz but waiting there until there is huge load of porccesses and then jumping to higher clocks. So that waiting time on a stable was saving some battery and heat since the higher coltages are less efficient for both the battery and heating..
One more thing; the smoothness of an iPhone is not related to its CPU, it is all about the GPU which used to be higher than any same generation Android device until recently..
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Thanks for the interesting reply.
Anyway, I've tried the parameters that you said, but on cm 10.2 the phone freezes in a black screen when is locked. Seems that I solved with a simple step up from 400 to 500 mhz when display is off. Just a report for the users that are reading this
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ive never been able to get good overnight idle drain stats. with TW roms i would lose 3-4% per 8 hrs but aosp i can lose about 12-15%. this is with all sync off
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My batterylife is better with AOSP than with TW. For 4.3 I recommend slimbean and included kernel, thor kernel gives crazy good batterylife too on 4.2.2/4.3 roms but thor is banned here.
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Did you try thor kernel with slimbean? When I flashed it the phone didnt boot, was still on black screen. I flashed aokp-n7100-0.25 version, thx!
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Did you try thor kernel with slimbean? When I flashed it the phone didnt boot, was still on black screen. I flashed aokp-n7100-0.25 version, thx!
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Why there is no Thor kernel in XDA? Or have my eyes missed it?
please visit Thors own site - Tegra owners.
if you are a lover of android then your experience cannot be complete without experiencing his 'touch' and you need to read through the threads there - his kernels just dont work without following his instructions.
Thread closed as it has already turned into a best rom/kernel thread. It appears that the question has been answered anyways.
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Downloaded san andreas on my G2 few hours ago and on everything maxed its laggy. Anyone having same problem ?
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Thermal throttling ?
Having played the other 2 games i can say that those games will push your Hardware to the max. Try to reduce some settings.
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ckyy said:
Thermal throttling ?
Having played the other 2 games i can say that those games will push your Hardware to the max. Try to reduce some settings.
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I'm on StockMOD, it has some tweaks about throttling and stuff. But really dont know why is it laggy, on note 2 (watched on youtube) works great. My frames fall down while playing to about 10 fps.
I've noticed this too. It seems to get most laggy when looking at cars. Lowering the Car Reflection graphics setting helps a bit with performance, but I still feel like the G2 can handle this game maxed out. Hopefully someone will find a solution.
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There is no solution for now.. Game is not optimized for adreno 330. Game is laggy on g2, z1, note 3... So we have to wait for game update
I watched gameplay on note 3, its not laggy
i think it might be software dependent. I broke down and bought it this morning, lagged for me too. I was on lg's stock rooted at first, maybe 10-15 fps, flashed over to OSE 2.0 (4.4) and it seems to run a little better, still no GTA 3 smoothness but seems better than stock.
Hi there, I tested as many kernels as I can found but still I miss crucial things for me and haven't found yet something, btw all kernels seem same to me with little differences so has anyone saw a kernel that supports
1. Cifs
2. Openvpn
3. Uv ability to anything in the device? Like gpu?
4. Dual Rom (not crucial)
Damn I miss my s2/s3 days, maybe it's too early for N3 but all developers fell in the trap of benchmark and race to raise the mhz which is useless to most of people but banana appealing. If anyone spotted any kernel with extra features pls share it with me I can even beta test if needed.
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BlueChris said:
Hi there, I tested as many kernels as I can found but still I miss crucial things for me and haven't found yet something, btw all kernels seem same to me with little differences so has anyone saw a kernel that supports
1. Cifs
2. Openvpn
3. Uv ability to anything in the device? Like gpu?
4. Dual Rom (not crucial)
Damn I miss my s2/s3 days, maybe it's too early for N3 but all developers fell in the trap of benchmark and race to raise the mhz which is useless to most of people but banana appealing. If anyone spotted any kernel with extra features pls share it with me I can even beta test if needed.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484840 have a look at this one dont know if it has all the things you want
Thx m8 but it's same as all the others, so far best is civz as matter stability and battery
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