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How does the demon kernel compare to cyanogens? pros and cons
personally i haven't really a preference for either
both are good and improve battery a fair bit
i tend to use demonspeed for sense ROMS and miui and cyanogen's or faux's for AOSP
DS kernel is slightly under-volted and is set to SMARTASS governor clocked at 900ish Max and 150ish min.
Stock cm is ONDEMAMD governor clocked at 1ghz Max and 200ish min.
I just stick with stock CM kernel because for one, it's one less thing to flash, and I honestly see no difference in batery life nor speed. Plus, I don't wanna mess with under-volting my CPU.
Hope this helped.
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DS has a larger selection of governors and allows to overclock higher than the "stock" CM kernel. I had a number of problems though with DS v9 and 10 under CM 7.0.3:
camera no longer worked
video playback no longer worked (for YouTube as well as for locally stored video files)
so I am now using CM 7.1 and the kernel that comes with it.
I am running Royal Ginger 3.0 with demonspeed and I didnt know cm7stable was compatible with dmspd? Isnt it a 2.3.7 kernel?
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I didnt know cm7stable was compatible with dmspd? Isnt it a 2.3.7 kernel?
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According to this post, the two should work together. I haven't tried it, though ...
Im running the hydrogenmod rom based off of 206 and its 2.3.7. Tdj's demonspeed v10 kernel works flawless.
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i'm currently running demonspeed v10 on nightly build 213 and so far no problems
haven't noticed a major change in battery life though, either way before and after flashing it, my battery lasts long enough that when i unplug and leave for school at 7am (ish), my battery is at like 50% when i get home like 15 hours later, good stuff
I've done a bit of reading and don't seem to be able to identify a kernel that works fully with webtops.
There are 2 current issues:
1. Status bar on webtops do not work with popular kernels
2. CPU speed locks at 1ghz when in webtop
I know for a fact this is an issue with Faux's kernels and it is typically there on Clemsyn's kernels. Are there any kernels out right now that may provide some of the performance and battery life tweaks of Faux's codes w/ a working webtop?
I recently purchased the $50 lapdock and am interested in trying to get everything working. I may even give up Faux kernels to go back to stock =(
I have a stock ROM with Clemsyn's timing tweaked kernel. I have tried webtop with the multimedia dock (not the lapdock...backordered like most others), and I've noticed that both cores peg at the 1.4 GHz max and the phone could heat a small room. Like others have reported, after I quit webtop, the processors are still pegged at 1.4GHz, and almost 100% utilization. I get poor performance after that until I reboot the phone. Not very nice.
The main reason I wanted to go with an alternate kernel is more for UC and UV. Right now I have Battery Saver set to the max, which seems to UC me to 608 MHz most of the time and I don't really see any performance issues. I know stock doesn't give OC and I don't even think it does UV. Don't know about UC.
I haven't paid attention to the status bar issue...I've only used webtop so far just to check it out...but with the lapdock I plan to use it more (coupled with the full Ubuntu mod).
clenynsns uv better than any other lkernal
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You can use kholk's kernel, and i think it works perfectly with webtop
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On my lapdock/webtop now and can confirm that everything appears to be working well with Kholk's kernel.
After seeing the suggestion here, I tried it and am both speedy and stable using the 1.5 GHz version with everything undervolted -75. Got some freezes in Webtop if I opened more than a few Firefox tabs when I UVed -100
Glad this kernel is webtop compatible. It helps a pretty good bit. Definitely makes being without MIUI/CM7 more tolerable.
never mind. I am dumb.
The latest faux kernel also works with webtop now.
which kernel out there is the best right now? in battery life and speed
theres only one that fits best battery and fastest.. trinity kernel.
I like Trinity but Motley also did very well for me.
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theres only that fits best battery and fastest.. trinity kernel.
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This^ look at it this way. The nexus allready has great performance, it will handle any game you throw at it. (Unless not optimized for tegra 3) so wht else do you need? A kernel that gives amazing battery life. And what kernel is that..... \l/ TRINITY \l/
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TRINITY without a doubt!!! Fast as hell and almost unbelievable battery life!
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Trinity IMHO....
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battery right now..
speed..
Ill say motley. I tried trinity kernel. Its good. But I getbetter performance,stability, and battery life with motley. All these battery screen shots really mean nothing. Why? Because none show real heavy use. I can easily get the same stats or better with light to moderate use. Show me some stats showing 8-10+ hrs of screen on time. With some heavy app or game usge. Anyone can use device for a few hours. Then leave it in deep sleep and show the same or better stats.
I've tried all the kernels out so far. They are all good. Its a matter of personal preference of features you want. Some pack things others don't. MOTLEY 'S ATM is the only linaro based kernel. So its using new additions/components. Better optimized. Benchmarks are cool but its real world performance that matters most.
I'm running stock rom with motley latest linaro based kernel with Zram, then CPU overclock @ 1.624ghz and gpu overclock @ 520mhz. I'm also undervolted -75mV across the board. So my temps stay low. Which equates to my device running at a higher performance speed longer.
The best thing about stock rom is I can measly flash different kernels and not have to worry about flashing a rom and setting my apps n all THST all over again. I can flash a kernel with no wipes and be good. Plus stock rom is the most stable ATM. Can't lie though, I am anxious to flash some roms. THST paranoid Android one looks really good. Along with the pure linaro based rom. That's the great thing about choices.
Its not a matter of who has the best kernel. Its more about what you looking for in features and personalizing your device to cater to our needs.
Asking who has the best kernel is like asking who is the best developer on xda. I don't think that's fair to the developers as they ALL work hard on roms or kernels. Forget the popularity contests.
THEY ALL THE BEST lol. Some are just more seasoned than others. Which is OK. I love the fact we have variety of things to choose from. I've been impressed with trinity kernel, based on scores I've been seeing. But I'm also impressed with faux kernel and its a more straight forward one with lots of new Linux commits and additions. All the kernels have a personality of their own. I love the fact that twrp makes it very easy n simple to try out any kernel I want for nexus7. No matter who makes it. Every developer has its followers. You also have people who like to try out different setups.
Choice is a good thing! That's what I love about Android.
I've got to say for me trinity is the best kernel for the Nexus 7, updated daily and great communication with the dev makes this an awesome kernel. The trinity toolbox app is the icing on the cake.
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Ill say motley. I tried trinity kernel. Its good. But I getbetter performance,stability, and battery life with motley. All these battery screen shots really mean nothing. Why? Because none show real heavy use. I can easily get the same stats or better with light to moderate use. Show me some stats showing 8-10+ hrs of screen on time. With some heavy app or game usge. Anyone can use device for a few hours. Then leave it in deep sleep and show the same or better stats.
I've tried all the kernels out so far. They are all good. Its a matter of personal preference of features you want. Some pack things others don't. MOTLEY 'S ATM is the only linaro based kernel. So its using new additions/components. Better optimized. Benchmarks are cool but its real world performance that matters most.
I'm running stock rom with motley latest linaro based kernel with Zram, then CPU overclock @ 1.624ghz and gpu overclock @ 520mhz. I'm also undervolted -75mV across the board. So my temps stay low. Which equates to my device running at a higher performance speed longer.
The best thing about stock rom is I can measly flash different kernels and not have to worry about flashing a rom and setting my apps n all THST all over again. I can flash a kernel with no wipes and be good. Plus stock rom is the most stable ATM. Can't lie though, I am anxious to flash some roms. THST paranoid Android one looks really good. Along with the pure linaro based rom. That's the great thing about choices.
Its not a matter of who has the best kernel. Its more about what you looking for in features and personalizing your device to cater to our needs.
Asking who has the best kernel is like asking who is the best developer on xda. I don't think that's fair to the developers as they ALL work hard on roms or kernels. Forget the popularity contests.
THEY ALL THE BEST lol. Some are just more seasoned than others. Which is OK. I love the fact we have variety of things to choose from. I've been impressed with trinity kernel, based on scores I've been seeing. But I'm also impressed with faux kernel and its a more straight forward one with lots of new Linux commits and additions. All the kernels have a personality of their own. I love the fact that twrp makes it very easy n simple to try out any kernel I want for nexus7. No matter who makes it. Every developer has its followers. You also have people who like to try out different setups.
Choice is a good thing! That's what I love about Android.
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1. trinity kernel has been using linaro since april of 2011, on the nexus s, the gnex, and now the nexus 7.
2. zram is a placibo. theres nothing there
3. stock rom is good, but i prefer a pure aosp build. no, they are not the same.
4. and the last two paragraphs are the absolute truth.
5. really, you should try them all, let your device tell you which kernel it likes the best
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1. trinity kernel has been using linaro since april of 2011, on the nexus s, the gnex, and now the nexus 7.
2. zram is a placibo. theres nothing there
3. stock rom is good, but i prefer a pure aosp build. no, they are not the same.
4. and the last two paragraphs are the absolute truth.
5. really, you should try them all, let your device tell you which kernel it likes the best
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Thing with zram is, its not for getting higher benchmark scores or immediate performance. Its more so for heavy multitasking. Is been proven to help. The placebo is on people who think its supposed to provide some immediate result. If someone is a heavy multitasker on their device, then zram would benefit them. If you not much of a multitasker, then zram will show no Bendix for you.
You are right though, about trying out different kernels and such. Pure aosp rom sounds good. I just hate having to reset up my apps n stuff. I know titanium good for that but me personally, I'm waiting for roms to mature more and have most things, of not everything working. All roms so far seem to have something not working yet. Which is fine. Nature of the beast.
I think I might give trinity kernel another try. I did buy the tkt app. But never used it in conjunction with the kernel. I bought it just for the automatic script it runs..lol plus to show support. I heard tkt app works best with trinity kernel plus allows you to tweak features only in trinity kernel.
Ill download the latest build Trinity has and see what's up. Performance and better battery life is always a good thing. Its gpu is overclocked to 520mhz also?
Trinity HANDS DOWN its been 3 hours on sleep and ITS still at 100%! + the ridiculous speed along with the power saving features. I may be new to the Nexus 7 scene but this is hands down to godly .
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Thing with zram is, its not for getting higher benchmark scores or immediate performance. Its more so for heavy multitasking. Is been proven to help. The placebo is on people who think its supposed to provide some immediate result. If someone is a heavy multitasker on their device, then zram would benefit them. If you not much of a multitasker, then zram will show no Bendix for you.
You are right though, about trying out different kernels and such. Pure aosp rom sounds good. I just hate having to reset up my apps n stuff. I know titanium good for that but me personally, I'm waiting for roms to mature more and have most things, of not everything working. All roms so far seem to have something not working yet. Which is fine. Nature of the beast.
I think I might give trinity kernel another try. I did buy the tkt app. But never used it in conjunction with the kernel. I bought it just for the automatic script it runs..lol plus to show support. I heard tkt app works best with trinity kernel plus allows you to tweak features only in trinity kernel.
Ill download the latest build Trinity has and see what's up. Performance and better battery life is always a good thing. Its gpu is overclocked to 520mhz also?
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im not sure if gpus oc...but when u underclock..theres absolutely no performance difference..and saves battery too! 102mhz-1100mhz on demand/deadline..god like battery life. 4 hours screen time...still 45% left...shouldve been more if i didnt flash roms in between battery life. also under clocked, gta 3 and cs portable runs great and smooth still.
thanks to simms, I tried out trinity again. I flashed the latest builds. ran some benchmarks. for some reason, my device doesn't like the highest speed on benchmarks. it kept rebooting during them. so I stayed at 1.5ghz. governor I used was performance and on demand. for scheduler I ran with deadline. i forced cpu online and put fysnc on faster, thanks to TKT app. on quadrant, I was more concerned with seeing if I could achieve those crazy high I/O scores. which I did. my overall score was good but I've gotten higher on motley. it could be higher on this kernel if I get the 1.6ghz+ speed to stick. I was more impressed with my rl sqlite benchmark test. scored 18 seconds overall. which blows away the competition.
so I'm impressed with latest version of kernel. definitely better than the older build I ran of it from before. some things I've noticed though. where is the ability to undervolt at? no option in tkt app and the voltages tab disappeared from system tuner. also, this build gpu isn't overclocked. or might be better for me to say its definitely not running at 520mhz. I could tell this by the fps from quadrant. its running 59-60fps. on motley with 520mhz gpu I get 70-80+fps. just some things I noticed. not necessarily drawbacks. kernel runs very good. just got to figure how to make higher speed stick. since I can't seem to adjust voltages on this build, I can't increase voltage or undervolt it. if this can be done on trinity kernel, let me know how. its not showing voltages in tkt app or system tuner.
overall very good kernel. will run it for a while to see how battery life is. I will likely underclock it like above poster mentioned for best battery life. I noticed nexus 7 still runs great underclocked. no lag.,no matter what kernel I'm using.
I've attached screenshots of my benches on latest trinity overclocked @ 1.5ghz. I know my device can take 1.6ghz cuz on motley I can run the speed fine, even through benches. so have to see why its not taking on trinity kernel. maybe voltage needs to be increased.
so it doesnt matter if trinity is still in experimental? its that good? i guess ill try that one out
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thanks to simms, I tried out trinity again. I flashed the latest builds. ran some benchmarks. for some reason, my device doesn't like the highest speed on benchmarks. it kept rebooting during them. so I stayed at 1.5ghz. governor I used was performance and on demand. for scheduler I ran with deadline. i forced cpu online and put fysnc on faster, thanks to TKT app. on quadrant, I was more concerned with seeing if I could achieve those crazy high I/O scores. which I did. my overall score was good but I've gotten higher on motley. it could be higher on this kernel if I get the 1.6ghz+ speed to stick. I was more impressed with my rl sqlite benchmark test. scored 18 seconds overall. which blows away the competition.
so I'm impressed with latest version of kernel. definitely better than the older build I ran of it from before. some things I've noticed though. where is the ability to undervolt at? no option in tkt app and the voltages tab disappeared from system tuner. also, this build gpu isn't overclocked. or might be better for me to say its definitely not running at 520mhz. I could tell this by the fps from quadrant. its running 59-60fps. on motley with 520mhz gpu I get 70-80+fps. just some things I noticed. not necessarily drawbacks. kernel runs very good. just got to figure how to make higher speed stick. since I can't seem to adjust voltages on this build, I can't increase voltage or undervolt it. if this can be done on trinity kernel, let me know how. its not showing voltages in tkt app or system tuner.
overall very good kernel. will run it for a while to see how battery life is. I will likely underclock it like above poster mentioned for best battery life. I noticed nexus 7 still runs great underclocked. no lag.,no matter what kernel I'm using.
I've attached screenshots of my benches on latest trinity overclocked @ 1.5ghz. I know my device can take 1.6ghz cuz on motley I can run the speed fine, even through benches. so have to see why its not taking on trinity kernel. maybe voltage needs to be increased.
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there are more features that are going to be added, theyre being added all the time. ask gnex owners how the options grew(same app btw, different devices running trinity see different features in the app. so you purchase it once, and use it on multi devices. btw, voltage adjustment will be added, remember how new development is on the n7. also, if other developers added the options into their kernels, theyed be able to use those features with their kernels
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so it doesnt matter if trinity is still in experimental? its that good? i guess ill try that one out
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thats just trinitys method of rotating the kernels.. starts off in experimental(every kernel is tested to boot and run before it every appears here), then it graduates to prerelease if it makes the cut, and then if you guys like it it makes its way to release. its just that trinity development is so new here that there isnt a prerelease yet
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im not sure if gpus oc...but when u underclock..theres absolutely no performance difference..and saves battery too! 102mhz-1100mhz on demand/deadline..god like battery life. 4 hours screen time...still 45% left...shouldve been more if i didnt flash roms in between battery life. also under clocked, gta 3 and cs portable runs great and smooth still.
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I've underclocked mines to 1.1ghz also. battery doesn't want to budge from 100% so far..lol. it's barley sipping battery. the UI and browser is fluid n smooth at this underclock. which is a good thing. the real test will come once I play nova3 shortly. if it plays lag free on this lower speed then underclocking is a winner. I set my governor to interactive though. you get better battery life than ondemand. using deadline also. with fsync set to faster.
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there are more features that are going to be added, theyre being added all the time. ask gnex owners how the options grew(same app btw, different devices running trinity see different features in the app. so you purchase it once, and use it on multi devices. btw, voltage adjustment will be added, remember how new development is on the n7. also, if other developers added the options into their kernels, theyed be able to use those features with their kernels
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thats just trinitys method of rotating the kernels.. starts off in experimental(every kernel is tested to boot and run before it every appears here), then it graduates to prerelease if it makes the cut, and then if you guys like it it makes its way to release. its just that trinity development is so new here that there isnt a prerelease yet
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I understand nexus 7 is still infancy, developement wise. its cool. just wondering if those features were included since the option disappeared. I could undervolt or increase voltage on motley kernel. the tkt app would let me do it on THST kernel as the section shows for it. but I like using system tuner for undervolting when I was on motleys kernel. can't wait to see what new features get added. plus once I get my new phone, hopefully there'll be a trinity kernel out for it so I can use tkt app with it. the build is very good.
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thanks to simms, I tried out trinity again. I flashed the latest builds. ran some benchmarks. for some reason, my device doesn't like the highest speed on benchmarks. it kept rebooting during them. so I stayed at 1.5ghz. governor I used was performance and on demand. for scheduler I ran with deadline. i forced cpu online and put fysnc on faster, thanks to TKT app. on quadrant, I was more concerned with seeing if I could achieve those crazy high I/O scores. which I did. my overall score was good but I've gotten higher on motley. it could be higher on this kernel if I get the 1.6ghz+ speed to stick. I was more impressed with my rl sqlite benchmark test. scored 18 seconds overall. which blows away the competition.
so I'm impressed with latest version of kernel. definitely better than the older build I ran of it from before. some things I've noticed though. where is the ability to undervolt at? no option in tkt app and the voltages tab disappeared from system tuner. also, this build gpu isn't overclocked. or might be better for me to say its definitely not running at 520mhz. I could tell this by the fps from quadrant. its running 59-60fps. on motley with 520mhz gpu I get 70-80+fps. just some things I noticed. not necessarily drawbacks. kernel runs very good. just got to figure how to make higher speed stick. since I can't seem to adjust voltages on this build, I can't increase voltage or undervolt it. if this can be done on trinity kernel, let me know how. its not showing voltages in tkt app or system tuner.
overall very good kernel. will run it for a while to see how battery life is. I will likely underclock it like above poster mentioned for best battery life. I noticed nexus 7 still runs great underclocked. no lag.,no matter what kernel I'm using.
I've attached screenshots of my benches on latest trinity overclocked @ 1.5ghz. I know my device can take 1.6ghz cuz on motley I can run the speed fine, even through benches. so have to see why its not taking on trinity kernel. maybe voltage needs to be increased.
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Interesting, 70-80fps, more than the panel.
You were interested in battery in an earlier post, this is me feeling meh and couching most of Sunday.
EDIT: Yes, emailing, tapatalk, browsing for laptop and not finding any, reading news in Pulse and flipboard, tweetcaster and testing slice(s?), gtalk, not heavy usage obviously. Screen wasn't on unless The Seven was used though.
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Interesting, 70-80fps, more than the panel.
You were interested in battery in an earlier post, this is me feeling meh and couching most of Sunday.
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what is this?? 7hrs screen time and 30%??
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what is this?? 7hrs screen time and 30%??
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Expect no less.
I've been trying different Roms lately, such as cm10.1, slim bean, liquid smooth. They were all fine except liquid smooth. But I was just wondering in general, is there a ROM that enhances or makes gaming better on?
No. Your question is silly, it's like asking. What is the best operating system for gaming? Is it windows 7? Mac? Or Linux?
... What you're asking for are kernels, not roms. And there is no best rom or kernel. Just look around and try for yourself
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As zephix mentioned, you should be looking at kernels, not roms, to improve gaming performance. You would want to look into kernels that overclock the GPU by default, or give you the option to overclock it yourself. Compare the different kernels out there, matrix, faux, motley,harsh, etc and see which one benefits the GPU the most.
For example the Matrix kernel has a GPU overclocked version that boost the gpu up to 487mhz. This should help improve game performance but will also negatively affect battery life when gaming.
Trinity kernel, its the BOOM
Trinity kernel forces gpu over clocking all the time though, with no option to set it back.
You can try the RasBeanJelly ROM + Trinity kernel combo. RasBean has new bionic patches while Trinity bumps up GPU. I'm running that right now. There was a nice jump in my Antutu score (20,000+), but we all know benchmark numbers mean nothing.
Like zephiK and Raider said: it's up to you to try out a bunch of different ROMs/kernels and see which ones you like best. Since I'm answering, I say check out RasBeanJelly and Trinity.
Faux' kernel gives me quite good 3D performance.
franco r53 has quite bad 3D performance for me. r61 seems to be really good, but somehow uses more battery while gaming, at least for me.
Every ROM is okay, I play games with vsync off and 128mhz CPU and they run good. Dead trigger, most wanted, temple run 2, and riptide are smooth. Games that aren't tolerable are basically not optimized and most likely lag on every device it can run on. Long story short, every ROM is apt, the GPU is a beast and isn't necessary for things out now. And HD YouTube even works in this mode.
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All roms have bionic. Rom won't do anything to your game. Kernel probably won't either. Games on the stock nexus 4 run great. If it weren't for washed out colors I'd say kernels are a waste of time. But anyone saying that stock android on the nexus 4 is slow or unfit for gaming is a liar. Just stop worrying about this performance bs, enjoy your nexus.
...or it is impossible without Samsung support?
They already do. 4.3 does a great job.
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...or it is impossible without Samsung support?
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I am not sure. I flashed the latest Resurrection Remix ROM and the battery life was a lot worse than TW.
My batterylife is better with AOSP than with TW. For 4.3 I recommend slimbean and included kernel, thor kernel gives crazy good batterylife too on 4.2.2/4.3 roms but thor is banned here.
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For me Samsung roms are far more effective.
On CM based roms, i get max 2/3 days with my usage, while on Samsung roms i can get 6 days (once got 7 days of juice )
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My batterylife is better with AOSP than with TW. For 4.3 I recommend slimbean and included kernel, thor kernel gives crazy good batterylife too on 4.2.2/4.3 roms but thor is banned here.
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Thor Kernel gives better battery life than stock SlimBean?
My experience with PA 3.65 based on AOSP was mediocre in terms of battery life. I certainly love it much, much more than TW but I certainly couldn't justify keeping that ROM since it was pretty average with respect to battery. It wasn't like ridiculously bad but certainly 25-30% lesser than what stock TW usually gives me and hence I had to sadly move back to a TW based custom ROM. I am hopeful that eventually AOSP will get closer to TW in terms of battery life because in every other sense I find it better.
I was too upset to see the terrible battery life on Aosp. Only thing that keeps me away from them.
Don't know why they can't match up tw in terms of battery life.
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They already do. 4.3 does a great job.
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I'm on cyano official 10.2 and battery life is quite decent but far from the Samsung roms. But I love cyano, and I think that the more drain is worthy.
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My batterylife is better with AOSP than with TW. For 4.3 I recommend slimbean and included kernel, thor kernel gives crazy good batterylife too on 4.2.2/4.3 roms but thor is banned here.
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Why thor kernel is banned?
It is really good as you said?
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They already do.
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On CM 10.2 or PA 3.99 I use SetCPU to create 3 profiles;
1) Screen off, max CPU=400, Governor=conservative
2) On call state, Max CPU= 500, governor= the same as the ROM
3) battery< %10, Max CPU=1000, Governor= the same as the ROM
One more thing; I don't think Samsung gives the same effort on giving a smooth experience and I don't think it is about bad software. I think the software is well-coded to perform efficiently but the CPU jump is tuned to be lower and slower intentionally. So it gives some choppiness compared to CM or any AOSP ROM but it also saves some energy from the CPU (or GPU at certain times)..
Basicly speed comes with cunsumption
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On CM 10.2 or PA 3.99 I use SetCPU to create 3 profiles;
1) Screen off, max CPU=400, Governor=conservative
2) On call state, Max CPU= 500, governor= the same as the ROM
3) battery< %10, Max CPU=1000, Governor= the same as the ROM
One more thing; I don't think Samsung gives the same effort on giving a smooth experience and I don't think it is about bad software. I think the software is well-coded to perform efficiently but the CPU jump is tuned to be lower and slower intentionally. So it gives some choppiness compared to CM or any AOSP ROM but it also saves some energy from the CPU (or GPU at certain times)..
Basicly speed comes with cunsumption
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Thanks. I applied all your settings and i set zzmoove as default governor (seems that is more battery friendly than pegasusq).
The story that you said about sammy roms is embarassing. I had an iPhone 4 before my Note 2 and it was completely smooth with a downclocked single core 1 ghz cpu. And battery life was pretty decent. I can't believe that android need so much power.
So, we can assume that all the other smartphone with great battery life (razr maxx, droid maxx, lg g2....) have choppy ui? I think (and i hope) that is related just to the optimization. Maybe samsung is not able to optimize the Touchwiz and prefers the Jeremy-Clarckson approach of "YEAAH, MORE POWER".
Elvecio said:
Thanks. I applied all your settings and i set zzmoove as default governor (seems that is more battery friendly than pegasusq).
The story that you said about sammy roms is embarassing. I had an iPhone 4 before my Note 2 and it was completely smooth with a downclocked single core 1 ghz cpu. And battery life was pretty decent. I can't believe that android need so much power.
So, we can assume that all the other smartphone with great battery life (razr maxx, droid maxx, lg g2....) have choppy ui? I think (and i hope) that is related just to the optimization. Maybe samsung is not able to optimize the Touchwiz and prefers the Jeremy-Clarckson approach of "YEAAH, MORE POWER".
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No. We can't assume such thing. Mine was just an assumption only for Note2/S3 Touchwiz vs AOSP.
Besides iPhone 4 is not downclocked, it has just a very high treshold for the last step (1GHz) so it comes into play very little. I remember such thing for dual core Sammy devices (or was it One X, poor memory of mine) from a kernel developer. He/she had tuned the kernel with very high tresholds for 800MHz and 1200MHz so the device was going easily 800 MHz but waiting there until there is huge load of porccesses and then jumping to higher clocks. So that waiting time on a stable was saving some battery and heat since the higher coltages are less efficient for both the battery and heating..
One more thing; the smoothness of an iPhone is not related to its CPU, it is all about the GPU which used to be higher than any same generation Android device until recently..
_delice_doluca_ said:
No. We can't assume such thing. Mine was just an assumption only for Note2/S3 Touchwiz vs AOSP.
Besides iPhone 4 is not downclocked, it has just a very high treshold for the last step (1GHz) so it comes into play very little. I remember such thing for dual core Sammy devices (or was it One X, poor memory of mine) from a kernel developer. He/she had tuned the kernel with very high tresholds for 800MHz and 1200MHz so the device was going easily 800 MHz but waiting there until there is huge load of porccesses and then jumping to higher clocks. So that waiting time on a stable was saving some battery and heat since the higher coltages are less efficient for both the battery and heating..
One more thing; the smoothness of an iPhone is not related to its CPU, it is all about the GPU which used to be higher than any same generation Android device until recently..
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Thanks for the interesting reply.
Anyway, I've tried the parameters that you said, but on cm 10.2 the phone freezes in a black screen when is locked. Seems that I solved with a simple step up from 400 to 500 mhz when display is off. Just a report for the users that are reading this
Inviato dal mio GT-N7100 con Tapatalk 4
ive never been able to get good overnight idle drain stats. with TW roms i would lose 3-4% per 8 hrs but aosp i can lose about 12-15%. this is with all sync off
wtr_dhd said:
My batterylife is better with AOSP than with TW. For 4.3 I recommend slimbean and included kernel, thor kernel gives crazy good batterylife too on 4.2.2/4.3 roms but thor is banned here.
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Did you try thor kernel with slimbean? When I flashed it the phone didnt boot, was still on black screen. I flashed aokp-n7100-0.25 version, thx!
majko11293 said:
Did you try thor kernel with slimbean? When I flashed it the phone didnt boot, was still on black screen. I flashed aokp-n7100-0.25 version, thx!
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Why there is no Thor kernel in XDA? Or have my eyes missed it?
please visit Thors own site - Tegra owners.
if you are a lover of android then your experience cannot be complete without experiencing his 'touch' and you need to read through the threads there - his kernels just dont work without following his instructions.
Thread closed as it has already turned into a best rom/kernel thread. It appears that the question has been answered anyways.
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