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So I've got some time at the moment to work on the vibrant again, so I figured I'd ask you guys a question.
What are you guys wanting out of the vibrant?
I'm not really one to go for the latest and greatest buzz word feature like "Linaro build" or "optimized build prop," etc.
lengthy posts are encouraged, tell me what you still want out of this device. What do you use it for? What do you want to use it for? Etc.
Like I said, not looking for "gimme 500MB ram" or " an updated 2.3 kernel", I wanna know what user experience your looking for.
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No takers?
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Now we have almost faultless ROMs and kernels, the only issue is GPS.
+1 on GPS
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Now we have almost faultless ROMs and kernels, the only issue is GPS.
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Point if the question was missed, it's not about faults. Also there are very talented individuals working on the GPS issues. I cannot test GPS as mine no longer works. I want to know not just for me but also the talented Devs working on the vibrant, what ideas do you guys have for improving the Android experience, just in this case I happen to be gearing it toward the vibrant as I won't be working in anything else myself. That doesn't mean it's faulty, there is always room for improvement.
Anyway...not monitoring this thread anymore....Idgaf anymore and people not gonna answer :3
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ECOTOX,
Just in case you do monitor this thread Ill give you a request. Ive built a couple of Froyo ROMs now, and plan to stick with Froyo for some time (at least until the EU error fixed)
That said I usually package the Bali 18.8.UV kernel with them. My favorite Froyo kernel is the DMZ kernel.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/633-kernel2213ghzdragonmodz-nightly3smartassscary8262011140pm/
What set your work apart is the fact it could stepclimp in 100mhz increments. My phone pukes at anything over 1100mhz. Its has the smartass governor (the one I want) that works perfectly. It is smooth, quick, and almost perfect for my needs. Ive only packaged it with one of my ROMs due to the lack to stepclimbing. Here is a request:
Ive tried up to 3 different overclock / volting programs. Tried to set it manually via init script, but the kernel has 2 stock settings: 500mhz / 1000mhz. If I I overclock to 1100mhz I only get three settings: 500/1000/1100. Is there any way you could get a 200mhz in there?
That said your git is available. I don't know how but I guess I could try and build my own based off your source / patches. You kinda sounded like you wanted to help/work some on the T959. With the EU error we have more folks coming back to Froyo every day. Froyo is not dead if I have anything to say about it -
Thanks for your time (I if read this)
+1 on GPS
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GPS is primarily due to inadequate or faulty hardware design. We have pushed the limits of trying to fix it with software guys.
I personally would love more battery life. I truly cannot get more than 45 minutes of screen time in ICS.
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How about intergrating more RAM?
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Moped_Ryder said:
ECOTOX,
Just in case you do monitor this thread Ill give you a request. Ive built a couple of Froyo ROMs now, and plan to stick with Froyo for some time (at least until the EU error fixed)
That said I usually package the Bali 18.8.UV kernel with them. My favorite Froyo kernel is the DMZ kernel.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/633-kernel2213ghzdragonmodz-nightly3smartassscary8262011140pm/
What set your work apart is the fact it could stepclimp in 100mhz increments. My phone pukes at anything over 1100mhz. Its has the smartass governor (the one I want) that works perfectly. It is smooth, quick, and almost perfect for my needs. Ive only packaged it with one of my ROMs due to the lack to stepclimbing. Here is a request:
Ive tried up to 3 different overclock / volting programs. Tried to set it manually via init script, but the kernel has 2 stock settings: 500mhz / 1000mhz. If I I overclock to 1100mhz I only get three settings: 500/1000/1100. Is there any way you could get a 200mhz in there?
That said your git is available. I don't know how but I guess I could try and build my own based off your source / patches. You kinda sounded like you wanted to help/work some on the T959. With the EU error we have more folks coming back to Froyo every day. Froyo is not dead if I have anything to say about it -
Thanks for your time (I if read this)
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Lol happened to be browsing the forum for info and saw you posted here.
I'll make you a kernel, but I'm not 100%sure I'm sticking with the 100mhz steps for my own release but I'll make you one specifically. I might, but I want to get voltage control working with 100mhz steps, I also gotta work on keeping the gpu clocks more stable.
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I would be in your debt sir. Thanks for your time.
I just wanted to say thanks for the great work on DMZ, ECOTOX. It has surpassed Overstock as my kernel of choice, but I had one quick question/request. Is it an issue with the kernel or with a particular ROM for some functions to get a little quirky when you start to overclock into the 1.2Ghz range? Whenever I set the CPU ceiling to 1.2Ghz the long press functions on the haptic buttons of the Vibrant would become flakey. I read that's fairly common with overclocking, but was curious who the culprit might be.
Not knowing anything about how scalers/governers can be implemented, what would the chances be to get something like Smartass v2 or a few more options on a new Froyo kernel? I liked messing around with them when I was running Sub-Zero on ICZen to find that happy medium of battery life vs performance.
I say a Galaxy S III themed gingerbread ROM. Anyone?
Im getting nexus 7 in few days and here are my questions:
1. Which kernel you would recommend?I want best performance to be able play games like modern combat 4,nova 3 @ +30-40fps
2. Should i stay with stock ROM or not?If not what you 'd recommend?
3. Do i must have credit card to get 25$ present from google to buy apps in playstore?Does paypal fits?
4. Can i break my device by installing ,using kernels,roms with high voltages?
Thanks.
P.S. I would like to get over 7000 at quadrant benchmark.
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Im getting nexus 7 in few days and here are my questions:
1. Which kernel you would recommend?I want best performance to be able play games like modern combat 4,nova 3 @ +30-40fps
2. Should i stay with stock ROM or not?If not what you 'd recommend?
3. Do i must have credit card to get 25$ present from google to buy apps in playstore?Does paypal fits?
4. Can i break my device by installing ,using kernels,roms with high voltages?
Thanks.
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1. Franco Kernel is rock solid and has a good balance of performance/battery life.
2. Up to you, but if you like being able to change things, I'd recommend PARANOIDANDROID. You can change between phablet/tablet UI at will. More customizations are coming as well!
3. Not sure, sorry.
4. This device is almost unbrickable -- just read the instructions of the OP for each thing you do and be very methodical and you should be fine. Remember to READ READ READ!
And read!
Enjoy XDA
I recommend you spend the first 30 days on the stock rom.
Just unlock the boot loader (wipes memory) before anything else, and root it if you like.
If you don't know what stock is like, you won't be able to appreciate any differences in custom roms.
As far as I know, the $25 bonus early adapter program ended back in September roughly.
Thanks for the answers.I think that i will stay with stock ROM.But does Paranoid ROM improves overall performance?Waiting more offers for kernels .
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Thanks for the answers.I think that i will stay with stock ROM.But does Paranoid ROM improves overall performance?Waiting more offers for kernels .
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Ehh it's more for customization. SmoothROM has great performance though.
Forgot to mention that i will have Nexus 7 32gb 3G version.Does it matters for ROMs and kernels?
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Forgot to mention that i will have Nexus 7 32gb 3G version.Does it matters for ROMs and kernels?
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Oh, yes -- check the 3G development forum then.
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Oh, yes -- check the 3G development forum then.
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What if i won't use 3G function does that still matter?And what will happen if i will try install ROM or kernel which doesn't support 3g?
3G is important with ROMs only or with kernels too?
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What if i won't use 3G function does that still matter?And what will happen if i will try install ROM or kernel which doesn't support 3g?
3G is important with ROMs only or with kernels too?
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The structure is a bit different on tilapia (3G N7) than grouper (WiFi N7). So yes, you should only install ROMs from the 3G forum.
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The structure is a bit different on tilapia (3G N7) than grouper (WiFi N7). So yes, you should only install ROMs from the 3G forum.
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How about kernels?I must install kernels only from 3G forum?And N7 3G is more powerful then simple N7?
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How about kernels?I must install kernels only from 3G forum?And N7 3G is more powerful then simple N7?
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About the same power, just a bit different internals due to the cellular antenna. I know some Kernels are for both 3G and WiFi -- they'll be labeled.
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About the same power, just a bit different internals due to the cellular antenna. I know some Kernels are for both 3G and WiFi -- they'll be labeled.
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Thanks for help.How about elite kernel is it safe to run @ 1.8ghz 650gma for daily use?And will it work for 3G?
Waiting for more kernels suggestions.
P.S. Clicked thanks button for everyone who repplied and tried to help.
Before flashing an overclock kernel try your games with stock, you might find oc is unnecessary. I have yet to find a game that lags and I'm complete stock. In my personal experience across a multitude of android devices custom ROMs don't provide any performance gains over stock, simply added features (most perceived performance gain is pure placebo), though there are some ROMs that decrease performance.
As for kernels, the only area I've ever seen a truly noticeable increase is in benchmarks, games play the same and overall fluidity feels the same.
But if you want rock solid performance with minor added features and big bench scores I'd recommend a combination of rasbean ROM and trinity kernel. That and stock are all I'll run on my g'nex while keeping the 7 stock for now.
Edit: Rasbean doesn't indicate support for 3g version.
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Be careful playing with overclocking... That and high voltages can definitely mess up a device.
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korockinout13 said:
Be careful playing with overclocking... That and high voltages can definitely mess up a device.
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How can overclocking mess up device?I heard that device only can reboot or something like this,nothing dangerous?
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How can overclocking mess up device?I heard that device only can reboot or something like this,nothing dangerous?
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One of the major things that can kill hardware....heat.
Over clocking and over voltage both make the device run hotter.
Too much heat destroys the chips.
Try water cooling...
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So what kernel should i use and @ what cpu frequency and @ what gpu frequency to run games as nova 3 ,modern combat 4,asphalt 7 @ +40fps and be safe for hardware?
Hey everyone, I have been on the hunt for the last few days for the best Kernel for my N7, in regards to performance. Earlier today someone turned me onto M-Kernel. I must say, it is very impressive. It has a built in 1.9 GHz overclock, that I was able to set via no-frills. I am running Clean ROM.
This is a multi-purpose post. First off, I wanted to let everyone know about my experience because I had a little trouble figuring out the best combo. The second reason is I would like to know if anyone knows of any other ROM/Kernel combos to get the highest quadrant score possible.
I have a co-worker who has a Galaxy SIII, and we have a friendly rivalry. I would really like to blow his phone away with my Nexus.
Thanks!
Check the link in my sig for my guide to the 'best' kernels. I don't think there is a lot of difference between roms in terms of benchmarks results.
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Check the link in my sig for my guide to the 'best' kernels. I don't think there is a lot of difference between roms in terms of benchmarks results.
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Clemsyn's Elite Kernel CPU overclock to 1.8GHz and GPU overclocked to 700MHz
droidhaxxor said:
Hey everyone, I have been on the hunt for the last few days for the best Kernel for my N7, in regards to performance. Earlier today someone turned me onto M-Kernel. I must say, it is very impressive. It has a built in 1.9 GHz overclock, that I was able to set via no-frills. I am running Clean ROM.
This is a multi-purpose post. First off, I wanted to let everyone know about my experience because I had a little trouble figuring out the best combo. The second reason is I would like to know if anyone knows of any other ROM/Kernel combos to get the highest quadrant score possible.
I have a co-worker who has a Galaxy SIII, and we have a friendly rivalry. I would really like to blow his phone away with my Nexus.
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
Motley is an overall great kernel
Can any one guide me thru the best setting for smooth scrolling.
While using facebook for example, the scrolling up and down is not smooth.
It lags.
Currently on pacman powered by franco m3.
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faddyie said:
Can any one guide me thru the best setting for smooth scrolling.
While using facebook for example, the scrolling up and down is not smooth.
It lags.
Currently on pacman powered by franco m3.
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the facebook app just sucks.
try using the force gpu rendering option in developer options in the phones main settings.
Try Faux123's latest kernel. While there may be no true cure for stuttery apps like Facebook, it almost goes away.
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faddyie said:
Can any one guide me thru the best setting for smooth scrolling.
While using facebook for example, the scrolling up and down is not smooth.
It lags.
Currently on pacman powered by franco m3.
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Just use the mobile facebook site. It is much better and its practically the FB app.
Just create a shortcut on your launcher to m.facebook.com
ShinnAsuka said:
Just use the mobile facebook site. It is much better and its practically the FB app.
Just create a shortcut on your launcher to m.facebook.com
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truth
simms22 said:
the facebook app just sucks.
try using the force gpu rendering option in developer options in the phones main settings.
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What exactly is force GPU rendering their for ?
Also does it effect battery or anything etc
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What exactly is force GPU rendering their for ?
Also does it effect battery or anything etc
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some apps still use software rendering, this forces them to use the hardware to render. this generally will give you a better experience. more battery.. no, not really.
You can use another governor like "interactive" to get more smoothness.
While some apps aren't as well written as they should be, and Android isn't quite capable of perfectly fluid and hiccup-free performance just yet, use a kernel that doesn't do the ridiculous thing of disabling MPDecision, which is a part of project butter that many kernel developers pretentiously disable, thinking that they're more capable than google+qualcomm. Funny thing is, contrary to general belief, your phone will even heat up less.
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While some apps aren't as well written as they should be, and Android isn't quite capable of perfectly fluid and hiccup-free performance just yet, use a kernel that doesn't do the ridiculous thing of disabling MPDecision, which is a part of project butter that many kernel developers pretentiously disable, thinking that they're more capable than google+qualcomm. Funny thing is, contrary to general belief, your phone will even heat up less.
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That`s total BS! MPDecision= Little smoothness at high price! Hot-plugging is wayyyy better than MPDecision! Less heat!? MAybe if your phone is idling but not if you`re using it!
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While some apps aren't as well written as they should be, and Android isn't quite capable of perfectly fluid and hiccup-free performance just yet, use a kernel that doesn't do the ridiculous thing of disabling MPDecision, which is a part of project butter that many kernel developers pretentiously disable, thinking that they're more capable than google+qualcomm. Funny thing is, contrary to general belief, your phone will even heat up less.
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I am also inclined to believe the opposite here man.. mpdecition has been around and used before project butter and Jelly Bean
. It literally sets your min freq to over 1 gigahertz just on a touch. Creates a lot of heat when turned on. Devs like faux who have building kernels for multiple devices for multiple years do know what their doing.
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Yeah well, believe what you want to believe, it's not my job to change your mind.
I did my own testing rather than believing and came to my own conclusions; I could take 30 minutes to explain the actual behaviour of MPdecision compared to those hand written hotplug drivers, but I really have no interest in trying to convince anyone who's happy with their beliefs.
OP was asking for advice on how to make his device smoother (without even mentioning heat or power consumption) and I gave it to him. I'm happier with MPDecision, maybe he'll be as well; I don't really want to start a discussion with whom is already satisfied otherwise.
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Yeah well, believe what you want to believe, it's not my job to change your mind.
I did my own testing rather than believing and came to my own conclusions; I could take 30 minutes to explain the actual behaviour of MPdecision compared to those hand written hotplug drivers, but I really have no interest in trying to convince anyone who's happy with their beliefs.
OP was asking for advice on how to make his device smoother (without even mentioning heat or power consumption) and I gave it to him. I'm happier with MPDecision, maybe he'll be as well; I don't really want to start a discussion with whom is already satisfied otherwise.
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That was quite elaborative... I am also with mp decision might be... Coz on stock i dont know how but feel much smoothness rather than custom.
This might be might be coz i am not that much techy to tweak further the custom kernel. I run with default values of any custom kernel... Learning: wip. lolx
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Yeah well, believe what you want to believe, it's not my job to change your mind.
I did my own testing rather than believing and came to my own conclusions; I could take 30 minutes to explain the actual behaviour of MPdecision compared to those hand written hotplug drivers, but I really have no interest in trying to convince anyone who's happy with their beliefs.
OP was asking for advice on how to make his device smoother (without even mentioning heat or power consumption) and I gave it to him. I'm happier with MPDecision, maybe he'll be as well; I don't really want to start a discussion with whom is already satisfied otherwise.
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And yes im confident your testing and knowledge goes beyond devs who have been building longer than you've been on XDA.. :thumbup:
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Mokee os/sabermod + franko kernel linaro..
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And yes im confident your testing and knowledge goes beyond devs who have been building longer than you've been on XDA.. :thumbup:
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Not all devs dropped mpdecision.
PJcastaldo said:
And yes im confident your testing and knowledge goes beyond devs who have been building longer than you've been on XDA.. :thumbup:
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Again, I really don't care what you think.
Confide in whatever you wish, you're free to trust people whoring for donations as much as you want.
I'll keep compiling and testing things myself without giving a crap.
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Again, I really don't care what you think.
Confide in whatever you wish, you're free to trust people whoring for donations as much as you want.
I'll keep compiling and testing things myself without giving a crap.
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i think "whoring" is overstepping. kernel devs such as franco and faux certainly aren't in it for the donations. they're just geeky enthusiasts like the rest of us, in it for the fun.
i think OP's problem is likely related (as others have mentioned) to poorly coded apps rather than rom/kernel.
namurt said:
i think OP's problem is likely related (as others have mentioned) to poorly coded apps rather than rom/kernel.
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1. In scrolling is there a role of FPS?
2. What is sampling rate in a kernel. Increasing sampling rate in ondemand governer can make some resolve to this prob?
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i think "whoring" is overstepping. kernel devs such as franco and faux certainly aren't in it for the donations. they're just geeky enthusiasts like the rest of us, in it for the fun.
i think OP's problem is likely related (as others have mentioned) to poorly coded apps rather than rom/kernel.
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hahahahaha
you really don't know who faux is
I am sorry if what im about to ask is already posted somewhere (probably is), but this forum is pretty vast and I couldnt find what im looking for. The question is this, Im using Vanir ROM. Now with the inbuilt kernel I had around 20k benchmark on antutu. I flash hells core, excited to see any difference and whoop, i got 14k. Also i checked the part with 3D testing and fps was higher for about 5-7 points. So what Im asking is this,What is the meaning of this and also how can I, how to put it to not sound noobish, tweak the kernel to perform/save battery etc.?Because Im assuming thats not the top what HellsCore kernel can do, am I right? Or if you guys have any kernels to recommend, all is appreciated. Also if this helps, Im using Nexus 4, Vanir ROM(as posted above) and dont know what else would you need to know to answer.
Thanks in advance
/So I rebooted and now I am on 20840 for some reason.
Benchmarks are not very conclusive abnout anything. Each phone is different each user has different needs and how and where there phone is used. Everyone will tell u to try this kernel and that kernel but u just have to find one that works for you
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mymeatb18 said:
Benchmarks are not very conclusive abnout anything. Each phone is different each user has different needs and how and where there phone is used. Everyone will tell u to try this kernel and that kernel but u just have to find one that works for you
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I get that, i was more concerned about those numbers. Why did it drop to 14k and then went to 20k again.
Probably some patches were included in the rom's kernel, which can affect the scores.
When you flashed another kernel (helldoctor), you stopped using these patches, so scores went down.
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I am sorry if what im about to ask is already posted somewhere (probably is), but this forum is pretty vast and I couldnt find what im looking for. The question is this, Im using Vanir ROM. Now with the inbuilt kernel I had around 20k benchmark on antutu. I flash hells core, excited to see any difference and whoop, i got 14k. Also i checked the part with 3D testing and fps was higher for about 5-7 points. So what Im asking is this,What is the meaning of this and also how can I, how to put it to not sound noobish, tweak the kernel to perform/save battery etc.?Because Im assuming thats not the top what HellsCore kernel can do, am I right? Or if you guys have any kernels to recommend, all is appreciated. Also if this helps, Im using Nexus 4, Vanir ROM(as posted above) and dont know what else would you need to know to answer.
Thanks in advance
/So I rebooted and now I am on 20840 for some reason.
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Anututu and other benchmarks depend on a number of factors/conditions which affect the final result . The major conditions which affect it result are below
1) The CPU temperature !! When ur phone gets hot the CPU throttle will automatically reduce the active cores and the clock speed to cool down your CPU !! This results in decrease in performance !! When you flash new kernels its possible that ur phone is hot and hence performance decreases
2) Using your phone while running tests also affect the results . for eg if there is a notification during the test or background sync going on it will affect the result
3) probably the kernel packed with vanir had 4 cores active all the time to increase scores and hells core has just 2 cores active ( at a given moment) will mean decreased performance
The ideal way to test kernels is as follows
1) Dirty flash your ROM before flashing kernel
2) Reboot your device after the first boot
3) Let it settle down for an hour
4) turn of data/WiFi during the test
5) see the kernels specs( like cores active/the maximum CPU speed) through an app like trickster/faux clock
6) Now run the test
7) after test let your phone cool down for 15 mins
8) repeat the test a few times and take the average of all scores
Kindly hit the thanks button as a token of appreciation
Antutu was never accurate if you ask me. Sometimes it goes down and the other it went up..so..
I see, thank you guys.
Benchmarks are like putting makeup on.
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