The Test of Time? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Now that this phone has been out for over a year, does anybody have any complaints?
How's the battery life?
Has it, or does it ever randomly freeze?
Anything you hate about it now that you've been using it for some time?
Lastly, I found this phone and the LG Optimus G new for around the same price range, the Nexus 4 being around $20 more expensive. Aside from the removable SD card on the Optimus G and LTE support, and the potentially removable battery on this phone, are there any other differences? If you had a choice to go with either phone once again, and neither the SD card, LTE support, nor battery being an issue in making your decision, which would you go with, and why? I believe the only other difference would be the Android support, with the Nexus 4 running 4.4.2, and the Optimus G running 4.1.2.
In other words, my friend is stuck between making a decision between the two and doesn't know which to go with.
Thanks!

Dude they look like almost the exact same phone. The only difference I can see on GSM Arena is that the Optimus has a (market dependent) 13 mp camera vs Nexus's 8mp subpar camera. If it did have a 13mp camera I would get the Optimus. Otherwise as bad as I hate to say it I just can't make myself get another phone at this point. I realllly want an LG G2 but it's like having a car that's paid for that you've become comfortable with and you got it like you like it. Although there are other models that may be a little bigger and get a little better gas mileage and have the navigation built into the steering wheel. Lol. My phone gets phenomenal battery life, can be upgraded to 4.4.2. Will continue to get a fair amount of developer support. Has a super cool glass back. I mean I think it's a good decision. I would probably never get another phone if I had a better camera... Tough choice.
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Yeah, they're essentially the same phone. That's the reason for the troubles, because the differences are so minor, I was just wondering if there was anything bigger than what was posted on a web a year ago.

If your friend doesn't care for LTE or more storage, then nexus 4 would be better. Running latest android version, lots of development support, looks fabulous with the glass back, running very smooth, battery is average but hey, this is a smartphone mate. of course it would gobble down battery fast (still I got almost 7 hours of sot with 22 hours of usage, not very average ain't it? ) But then, it depends on your friend, if he's not so much into rooting or updating android version, many of the nexus advantages would be nothing to him.

The screen will go at some point. Mine just did after 14 months. I was lucky. Some had theirs go funny at 6 months and LG refused to change the screen under warranty. My soft keys don't work in landscape. Only solution is a new screen. Save yourself the headache and buy something else.
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lombardo8 said:
The screen will go at some point. Mine just did after 14 months. I was lucky. Some had theirs go funny at 6 months and LG refused to change the screen under warranty. My soft keys don't work in landscape. Only solution is a new screen. Save yourself the headache and buy something else.
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Just to clarify, which screen will go out? The Nexus 4?
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The performance and the display are excellent.
Battery life is ok.
But the LTE and the really bad camera make me consider an upgrade.
I would recommend to get a newer device.

About a year old now and this is still the sexiest phone. True there are better options but for the price it is still a tough one to beat. Zero issues with it, was my wife's at first, she broke the LCD a few months in (not the phones fault as she has broken half a dozen phones now) so she moved to wp8 (great for her) I took the n4 and swapped a new digitizer/LCD in it and it has been flawless for 8 months or so now.
I have played with a lot of the newer phones and this one still competes great, yes the camera could be better but for my purposes it is still perfect, oh and did I mention sexy as hell?
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Moved from Galaxy Nexus -> Galaxy S3 = Thoughts

Hello all,
I got my Galaxy Nexus on day of release, so had it some 6 months or so, the other day I bought a Galaxy S III, the following day sold my Galaxy Nexus for 320€ (loss of 300€ in 6 months, can live with that).
Now, I must say while I loved the GN display I was one of those who suffered from the squares when on low brightness. That was my biggest gripe with the GN... Battery life was 2 days on one charge.. stock Android, loved it.
So on to the S3, performance? wow, very nice, in general pretty smooth. Could I tell a massive noticeable improvement over the GN? Not really.
Sound, MUCH MUCH MUCH better on the S3 ...
Build quality seems a tiny bit less than the GN.
I certainly do not like the physical home button on the S3.
Camera and video, on S3 very pleased indeed.
One very annoying bug is that for some reason I've got no DTFM tones in a call... which is a #taxibookingfail for me Had to grab the misses iPhone 4S to ring the damn taxi company in the end. #eggonface
The Samsung widgets etc I think are average. HTC do much nicer ones thats for sure.
I do miss the GN a lot, and stock Android is wonderful.
As I've been using fastboot to install new release ROM's on the GN, find it a pain to flash the S3. I'm on Mac and I wanted to flash the latest EU ROM in the hope it would fix the DTFM issue, but I just can't seem to get it done. Yeah I've grabbed Heimdall, extracted the ROM, blah blah, even looked at CLI flashing, but it's not working. I guess there is no fastboot for the S3. If anyone knows better please do say. Also are there OTA packages for the S3 that can be downloaded and patched via recovery?
Anyway.. all the best guys
Thank you sir. You just persuaded me to get a gnex. From the google play store, they are only $400 us. It will be a big upgrade from my samsung captivate (carrier branded galaxy s1)
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Toad858 said:
Thank you sir. You just persuaded me to get a gnex. From the google play store, they are only $400 us. It will be a big upgrade from my samsung captivate (carrier branded galaxy s1)
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So I myself am also making the transition from the gnex to the gs3 and my biggest gripe is the battery on the gnex. In your opinion how much better battery life did you get from the gs3 then you did from the gnex?
I would recommend Mobile ODIN to solve your flashing problem. It lets you download things right to your phone, and it will auto reboot and flash them for you. I grabbed the pro version for 4USD because it auto-downloads any fixes you need.
As far as the Gnex, I am surprised you are not happier moving to your GS3. I had a grey Gnex for about 4 months, and the screen quality, camera, and speaker volume were terrible. I was worried it would be similar on this phone, but all three of those areas seem vastly improved to me.
Galaxy nexus is the best device compared to s3 due to the price, stock ics and on screen navigation
Price is the biggest one for me
I bought galaxy nexus for 27000
S3 price abt 39000
Samsung touch wiz and s voice is a crap.
Except microsd I am happy with the purchase of gnex....
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Toad858 said:
Thank you sir. You just persuaded me to get a gnex. From the google play store, they are only $400 us. It will be a big upgrade from my samsung captivate (carrier branded galaxy s1)
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Don't do it. The screen drains the battery on the GN like there's no tomorrow! Unless you turn the brightness way down...then you can't enjoy the HD screen which defeats the purpose. Also the screen is kind of washed out looking, with everything looking yellowish especially at lower brightness. Also the external speaker on the GN is really low and probably one of the worst I've ever heard on a phone. There's a couple more things but these are my main gripes with the phone. The Screen and speaker are 2 very important features that have to work right on my phone. So I'm selling my basically new GN and getting the GS3 on the 21st.
blackguy101 said:
So I myself am also making the transition from the gnex to the gs3 and my biggest gripe is the battery on the gnex. In your opinion how much better battery life did you get from the gs3 then you did from the gnex?
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Approximately twice the screen on time in my case, from 3 to almost 6 hours screen in time.
Idle consumption is worse on sgs3 due to possible bug but screen on time is what matters the most.
Overall performance is much better, but battery life was the top reason for me to move to sgs3 from gnex.
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Wow so i should just save up my pennnies and get the s3? I know the verizon gnex battery life sucks but the same can be said about the gsm version?
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Toad858 said:
Wow so i should just save up my pennnies and get the s3? I know the verizon gnex battery life sucks but the same can be said about the gsm version?
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Yes the battery life on the GSM sucks monkey balls.
I loved my gnex but it had a few small issues. Wifi has short range, the speaker volume was low and the screens colors were more washed out. Overall the Gnex is still solid and one of the best phones I've had. Got love for gnex.
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I'll be getting rid of my g nexus here as well. I get about 4 hours maybe 4.5 of constant screen time. Standby is really good with franco and aokp but those roms and cm well likely be on the s3 regardless so not much reason to stick with the nexus at this point.
I'm just waiting for the second batch. They are likely running full tilt and the manufacturing will tighten up quality wise on the second + runs.
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Approximately twice the screen on time in my case, from 3 to almost 6 hours screen in time.
Idle consumption is worse on sgs3 due to possible bug but screen on time is what matters the most.
Overall performance is much better, but battery life was the top reason for me to move to sgs3 from gnex.
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The fact that you got 3 hours of screen on time amazes me to be honest. I struggle to even get an hour and half and on days that im lucky i get 2. The fact that this thing can get 6 hours screen time wil be heaven to me
Aridon said:
I'm just waiting for the second batch. They are likely running full tilt and the manufacturing will tighten up quality wise on the second + runs.
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Agreed. Now i have to wait a few months...
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Would you not just wait for the next nexus?
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I've just seen so many comments and was shocked by the number ... thought I'd only get one possibly two replies .
Regarding battery life of the GN ... about a month ago I changed network. That made a phenomenal difference in battery life too .... for the better.
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Would you not just wait for the next nexus?
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Trust me man i considered this already. I have no idea what do... Lol. I like waiting a few months after a phone is released to get all the kinks out
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Yes the battery life on the GSM sucks monkey balls.
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What in the world are you people talking about? I get 4 hours screen on time spread out over 40 hours off charger on my gsm gnex. Data on and syncing entire time, 30% brightness.
-Sent from a GSM Galaxy Nexus (RAScream+Trinity).-
Okay guys here is my problem. I got a Play Gnex GSM last month. I have the car dock and pogo landscape dock. The Nexus is my first Android phone. I don't run custom roms and have little interest in modding the device. It is rooted. I play videos and mostly spotify. I was very pissed about the sound volume but have figured that out with Volume+ and finally got the settings I like. As of right now I have no complaints with the phone and love it. I also have the 3800mah and three regular batteries (one original and two qcell non-nfc) so battery issues are not a problem for me. I've never been a hard core gamer on the phone so FPS isn't a concern either. That could change if I got hooked I guess. Also the pogo dock is great. I dock the Nexus and use it as a clock at night. I could do the same with the GS3 but would have to plug a cord in all the time.
To be honest my original intention was to purchase the Nexus then after the GS3 was released give the Nexus to my wife and purchase the GS3. My wife has been using my old iPhone 3g for two years and it's on it's last legs. Not to mention it's jailbroken and Ultrasn0wed for the unlock. It's on 4.01. I'm having second thoughts now. I love the Nexus. On the other hand the GS3 I know is going to be super incredible plus the microsd storage would hold everything I could possibly throw at it. I'm also expecting improved audio from the GS3 as well. I'm okay with the Nexus audio but it doesn't even touch the quality from my two year old iPhone 4.
Should I pass the Nexus on to the wife and get a GS3 or should I wait until the next Google phone comes out and hope it has great specs and pass the Nexus along then? Money isn't that much of a issue at the moment. I already have a 64gb card and plan on selling my iPhone 4 when it's unlocked (as soon as I get the unlock e-mail confirmation from Apple and do a restore, ATT already approved the unlock yesterday). I would be getting the ATT LTE version.
Another option is to use the Nexus and not sell the iPhone but let her use it until the next Google phone comes out then do the rotation.
For those of you that have "upgraded" to the GS3 from the Nexus how many of you would do it again?
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Okay guys here is my problem. I got a Play Gnex GSM last month. I have the car dock and pogo landscape dock. The Nexus is my first Android phone. I don't run custom roms and have little interest in modding the device. It is rooted. I play videos and mostly spotify. I was very pissed about the sound volume but have figured that out with Volume+ and finally got the settings I like. As of right now I have no complaints with the phone and love it. I also have the 3800mah and three regular batteries (one original and two qcell non-nfc) so battery issues are not a problem for me. I've never been a hard core gamer on the phone so FPS isn't a concern either. That could change if I got hooked I guess. Also the pogo dock is great. I dock the Nexus and use it as a clock at night. I could do the same with the GS3 but would have to plug a cord in all the time.
To be honest my original intention was to purchase the Nexus then after the GS3 was released give the Nexus to my wife and purchase the GS3. My wife has been using my old iPhone 3g for two years and it's on it's last legs. Not to mention it's jailbroken and Ultrasn0wed for the unlock. It's on 4.01. I'm having second thoughts now. I love the Nexus. On the other hand the GS3 I know is going to be super incredible plus the microsd storage would hold everything I could possibly throw at it. I'm also expecting improved audio from the GS3 as well. I'm okay with the Nexus audio but it doesn't even touch the quality from my two year old iPhone 4.
Should I pass the Nexus on to the wife and get a GS3 or should I wait until the next Google phone comes out and hope it has great specs and pass the Nexus along then? Money isn't that much of a issue at the moment. I already have a 64gb card and plan on selling my iPhone 4 when it's unlocked (as soon as I get the unlock e-mail confirmation from Apple and do a restore, ATT already approved the unlock yesterday). I would be getting the ATT LTE version.
Another option is to use the Nexus and not sell the iPhone but let her use it until the next Google phone comes out then do the rotation.
For those of you that have "upgraded" to the GS3 from the Nexus how many of you would do it again?
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Dude everybody (or most everybody) in this forum is going to be happy with the change. People in the gnex forum will say the upgrade isn't worth it. Play with an s3 and decide for yourself!
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My nexus was nice to hold but the battery just didnt cut it for me. I bought the white one so the extended battery cover was out of the question for me
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a sad subject. who's buying the Nexus 4 on here!?

I, like many of you, was going to stay loyal to the good old Motorola Atrix. Especially since we finally got CM10 that actually worked pretty much flawlessly for most, except the battery life which was completely awful. I haven't seen much going on here, and usually I would care since I love my Atrix and would like to see more going towards the improving of CM10...but how much can we really improve? I'm stuck with the thought that we're lucky and this is as good as we'll get with Atrix. So...the Nexus 4 comes out the 13th and it's only $300. There's a lot of controversy about the no LTE thing, I've never had it so I don't care. The SD card thing is a shame but googles done it since the Nexus S so it was expected. Anyways, I think it's amazing. I've always hated the cheap plastic quality of the Atrix and the horrible adhesive that I blame for the corners of my screen popping up. This has gorilla glass on both sides which I find really cool. It looks like the most solid Android phone out there right now, I don't think any phone meets it's build quality. No removable battery is upsetting, but it's not like they could of done a removable glass back cover. Plus I think it has do do with making the device thinner. Annnyyywayss... I'm getting it. It's the best, most powerful, and its CHEAP. So who else is ditching the Atrix (sad I know) for the Nexus 4?
BravoMotorola said:
I, like many of you, was going to stay loyal to the good old Motorola Atrix. Especially since we finally got CM10 that actually worked pretty much flawlessly for most, except the battery life which was completely awful. I haven't seen much going on here, and usually I would care since I love my Atrix and would like to see more going towards the improving of CM10...but how much can we really improve? I'm stuck with the thought that we're lucky and this is as good as we'll get with Atrix. So...the Nexus 4 comes out the 13th and it's only $300. There's a lot of controversy about the no LTE thing, I've never had it so I don't care. The SD card thing is a shame but googles done it since the Nexus S so it was expected. Anyways, I think it's amazing. I've always hated the cheap plastic quality of the Atrix and the horrible adhesive that I blame for the corners of my screen popping up. This has gorilla glass on both sides which I find really cool. It looks like the most solid Android phone out there right now, I don't think any phone meets it's build quality. No removable battery is upsetting, but it's not like they could of done a removable glass back cover. Plus I think it has do do with making the device thinner. Annnyyywayss... I'm getting it. It's the best, most powerful, and its CHEAP. So who else is ditching the Atrix (sad I know) for the Nexus 4?
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I'll probably just wait for the SG4, since I actually have LTE in my area.
Have fun with your N4.
Nope...
Not me...
I'm currently running CM7 and will soon flash to Nottach so I can use it with my lapdock... as soon as my Note II shows up next week! :highfive:
At first I thought cool, but I'd prefer to have LTE on my next phone. The real deal killer for me is no SD card. I've got a 32gb sd card + internal storage in my atrix and I'm running low on space. Being stuck at just 16gb is no go for me.
Not me, I'm loyal to my Atrix. Please go crying somewhere else
I'm still up in the air between the optimus G and the nexus 4. I'm leaning towards the G as it has lte and more space. The fact that it's shipping with a locked bootloader is a bit worrisome, but so did our atrix. It's so close, essentially identical, to the nexus so once it's bootloader is unlocked it should stay up to date.
Maybe getting the nexus 4 but just to play around with still sticking to the atrix though
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Wow. That's surprising. I would also love LTE, but I can easily live without it honestly. I have wifi at home and any other building... and on the go I really don't care to have super fast speeds... of course there's a difference in pages loading but it's not significant enough for me to really care. I would like the Note 2 also like many of you... but it's really not the top of the line. It's pretty powerful, just not the best. And I'm tired of hard white cheap plastic. I would of thought so many more of you guys would like the N4... you know you can also wait for the SGS4 but it's going to be the same old plastic device as the previous ones. It's the power and the quality that really made me want the N4. Oh, and it's extremely cheep.
Me. HSPA+ 42 is close enough to LTE in my area for the difference to be negligible. LTE is a huge battery hog anyway. Bring on the Nexus 4!
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Wow. That's surprising. I would also love LTE, but I can easily live without it honestly. I have wifi at home and any other building... and on the go I really don't care to have super fast speeds... of course there's a difference in pages loading but it's not significant enough for me to really care. I would like the Note 2 also like many of you... but it's really not the top of the line. It's pretty powerful, just not the best. And I'm tired of hard white cheap plastic. I would of thought so many more of you guys would like the N4... you know you can also wait for the SGS4 but it's going to be the same old plastic device as the previous ones. It's the power and the quality that really made me want the N4. Oh, and it's extremely cheep.
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So, are you saying the LGN4 is the best? The best is what works for 'you'. Smaller screen, non-removable battery, and no expansion for SD card does not equel best in my book.. but that's me .. .oh, and no LTE.. my daughter has the SGSIII, doesn't feel cheap to me...
I'm getting the Note 2 for the larger screen and the S Pen features and the other feature the Nexus line lacks, mentioned above. To me those are important, to you it isn't, personal choice... I've had HTC, LG, Samsung, Moto... I go with the company/phone that has the features I want..
Good luck and have fun with your LGN4!
Am I getting one? Yes. Am I getting one now or any time near launch? No. My contract with AT&T still has some time left, so I dont want to lock myself into a GSM network should a PAYG CDMA option appear that looks really appealing. My Atrix will be sticking with me for at least another 5 months.
I could care less about LTE. My home internet is only 6mbs down, so its not like HSPA is any slower than wifi for me.
LG + No Ext MicroSD = Automatic NO BUY...
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LG + No Ext MicroSD = Automatic NO BUY...
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...Read some review actually. LG is known to have bad build quality but Google made sure it didn't. And it's said so far that is has the best build quality out of any Android phone right now.
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At first I thought cool, but I'd prefer to have LTE on my next phone. The real deal killer for me is no SD card. I've got a 32gb sd card + internal storage in my atrix and I'm running low on space. Being stuck at just 16gb is no go for me.
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My sentiments exactly! I need my entire music library on my phone all the time, as well as random movies and roms, etc...
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...Read some review actually. LG is known to have bad build quality but Google made sure it didn't. And it's said so far that is has the best build quality out of any Android phone right now.
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Engadget rated it pretty poor for audio quality. (Max volume)
LG and HTC are 2 phones that I've had major problems in the past with multiple phones of each.
I wouldn't mind giving the N4 a try and sell it if I don't like it, but the lack of External Micro SD was the "Easy" nail in the coffin for me.
Google must think that AT&T just loves to give unlimited data away for free, and WiFi can only do so much, which is why I need my Ext SD...
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I am one of those rare idiots who prefer phones with smaller screens and higher resolutions....
and currently i dont see any phones in 4-4.3 inch mark that are worth upgrading.. so ill be sticking to atrix for quite a while looking at current breed of ultra big phones
Not I...I went from Atrix to SGS3
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I don't see a huge improvement in the smartphone society so I'll stick with my beloved atrix on mrom until something that blows my mind comes out or until it breaks. BTW my country only supports expensive 3G so I'm not using data.
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I'm going to give it a few more weeks for reviews and complaints. I was originally going to get a Galaxy Nexus but aside from no LTE the LG is still a nice phone.
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Apparently the battery life is terrible. I remember the atrix would last a good 30 hours with moderate use for me.
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Nexus 4, Buy Now?

So I have been waiting for Google IO to see if there are any updates for the phone itself or a new phone but it seems more and more there won't be anything big, or it may just be an LTE version. I have no need for LTE at this present time.
There is a good deal today on ebay for a Nexus 4 for international shipping and I want to know whether I should go for it or rather wait till after I/O?
Opinions?
Just get it now , its a good phone and it will last you , at least that's how I feel about my nexus . also if the deal is that good , then yeah get it , make sure the imei is clean and there is no problems , have fun ! :thumbup:
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Wait, seriously. If something awesome is released, you'll be kicking yourself in the butt for not being patient
I could easily see a battery upgrade which is the Achilles heel for this phone.
This has always been a problem with phones: not daring to buy a new one because something else, something possibly better, may be coming up. But trust me: the Nexus 4 is a great phone with great specs and still has updates to come for ages. And about the battery life: with the right mods you'll get through 1,5 day.
You won't be disappointed and if you keep on looking towards newer models, then you'll never get yourself a new one.
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it will be a long while before the nexus 4 feels outdated, it is still top end spec for crying out loud.
No and here's why:
Battery performance is lackluster compared to other devices, 3G/HSPA WILL murder even on stanby
New Nexus is obviously close and may have better storage
Camera is mediocre
The SoC has wakelock issues from the USB modem and certain sleep states are broken
No 4K support(may want?)
Development will slow down significantly after next nexus or new Moto X
Lack of stock LTE support
Call quality is terrible even if you manually use AMR
Thermal throttle is difficult to avoid, thing can heat up in basic apps
Ace42 said:
No and here's why:
Battery performance is lackluster compared to other devices, 3G/HSPA WILL murder even on stanby
New Nexus is obviously close and may have better storage
Camera is mediocre
The SoC has wakelock issues from the USB modem and certain sleep states are broken
No 4K support(may want?)
Development will slow down significantly after next nexus or new Moto X
Lack of stock LTE support
Call quality is terrible even if you manually use AMR
Thermal throttle is difficult to avoid, thing can heat up in basic apps
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I do not agree with this person. Even when I have everything going and a ton of apps sinking in the back ground I get 8 to 12 hours use with around 3.5 hours screen on time with the screen at fifty percent. I have no issues with phone getting hot unless I am using the camera led as a notification tool in lite flow. If I do the normal things like uninstall apps I don't use and sign out of the other apps I get 20 hours easy and about 4 hours screen on time. My normal is 30 hours and 3 hours screen on time
There is little out there that out specs this phone. And being this a clean version of android and doesn't have touch wiz or HTC sense on it my phone seems to blow away even the s4.
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No and here's why:
Battery performance is lackluster compared to other devices, 3G/HSPA WILL murder even on stanby
New Nexus is obviously close and may have better storage
Camera is mediocre
The SoC has wakelock issues from the USB modem and certain sleep states are broken
No 4K support(may want?)
Development will slow down significantly after next nexus or new Moto X
Lack of stock LTE support
Call quality is terrible even if you manually use AMR
Thermal throttle is difficult to avoid, thing can heat up in basic apps
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Battery life is as always ...subjective
Google is promoting his cloud storage policy , I agree with it and this is the future ...
Camera isn't mediocre , is average ...
lack of ... LTE support for a phone which doesn't support it ...
Call quality is is good , not terrible , better then what I've used before ( HTC touch pro , wildfire , HTC HD 2 , s2 and s3 )
Thermal throttle ... Is present on hard apps and games which doesn't work properly on other devices , on basic apps is normal
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Your post is exaggerated .
The coefficient price/performance is one of the strongest and unbeatable reasons to get this phone
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There's nothing better out there in terms of Android software support. Even if you sell it a few months down the road, you'll still get a good price for it since it is a Nexus and it will hold it's value.
This phone is future proofed. Go for it.
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Get it while it's still the hottest device around!
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Get it while it's still the hottest device around!
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I don't think it's the hottest device around anymore. HTC and s4 are the hottest devices at the moment in my opinion.
Op if you want it! Get it. We're not here to convince you otherwise because we haven't experienced the other phones. Do your own research and don't get a phone because a community said to get it. All replies to this thread will be biased
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yes OP! Go try the other phones first, BUT if you want the smoothest phone around with No bloatware, the greatest specs all around with a price no one can beat, you might as well ! Some people say the hype about HTC one is almost at end Aside from the aluminium casing and the specs, nothing else would be exciting.
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I do not agree with this person. Even when I have everything going and a ton of apps sinking in the back ground I get 8 to 12 hours use with around 3.5 hours screen on time with the screen at fifty percent. I have no issues with phone getting hot unless I am using the camera led as a notification tool in lite flow. If I do the normal things like uninstall apps I don't use and sign out of the other apps I get 20 hours easy and about 4 hours screen on time. My normal is 30 hours and 3 hours screen on time
There is little out there that out specs this phone. And being this a clean version of android and doesn't have touch wiz or HTC sense on it my phone seems to blow away even the s4.
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I said the battery was bad relative to other devices, for instance the S3 gets at least 4. And temperature concerns have been mentioned by many others besides myself even on xda, it is not limited to myself.
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Battery life is as always ...subjective
Google is promoting his cloud storage policy , I agree with it and this is the future ...
This only works if you have fast speeds such as LTE or higher, and unlimited data.
Camera isn't mediocre , is average ...
lack of ... LTE support for a phone which doesn't support it ...
I said the device has no supported LTE, nothing is wrong with that statement. It would make sense for them to support a modern medium
Call quality is is good , not terrible , better then what I've used before ( HTC touch pro , wildfire , HTC HD 2 , s2 and s3 )
I just found it lacking compared to my Sensation, people always complain they can't hear me.
Thermal throttle ... Is present on hard apps and games which doesn't work properly on other devices , on basic apps is normal
What does the device's temperature have to do app compatibility?
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Your post is exaggerated .
The coefficient price/performance is one of the strongest and unbeatable reasons to get this phone
But if an even better device was to be announced the OP would be kicking himself like someone else said. I find the S4 Pro to be a double edged sword, you get A15 like performance but there are actual design issues that Faux has mentioned such as the wakelock for the usb and the sleep states.
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I can't believe you guys are advocating to not wait 10 days just in case. We don't know for sure whether a nexus 5 will be released. I'm not saying anyone should wait 6 months. Anyone should be hesitant to buy a smartphone that's 6 months old
IMO it is very unlikely that we'll see a Nexus 5 in some days, a new version of the Nexus 4 seems much more likely to me. Either way I would wait these 10 days until I/O. But keep in mind that what we will see at I/O will not be available in the stores right away...
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I can't believe you guys are advocating to not wait 10 days just in case. We don't know for sure whether a nexus 5 will be released. I'm not saying anyone should wait 6 months. Anyone should be hesitant to buy a smartphone that's 6 months old
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Nexus 5 will come later this year, not at Google io
Google always releases Nexus phones q4 of the year
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Thanks for the input guys. Note that I am definitely only going for the Nexus purely because of the price, it's way cheaper than anything else close in aesthetics and performance.
Just wanted to know whether to wait to see if maybe there is an improvement at I/O, which I think I will do.
OK Acer ... I would advice the OP to ignore my post due to " lack of stock English support " ...
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zephiK said:
I don't think it's the hottest device around anymore. HTC and s4 are the hottest devices at the moment in my opinion.
Op if you want it! Get it. We're not here to convince you otherwise because we haven't experienced the other phones. Do your own research and don't get a phone because a community said to get it. All replies to this thread will be biased
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If you want to deal with Touchwiz, Sense or broken AOSP ROMs then sure, the S4 and One are hot devices.

[Q] HTC Sensation 4G or Nexus 4?

Dear gang, hope all of you are doing well. I need your expert opinion on something. I love my HTC Sensation 4G. Got two batteries for it, a dock, and i am always blown away by its camera. It sometimes lags (especillay when on 4g and out in the real world), but nothing that I cannot accept. The maps is glitchy as well, and I cannot use the old format after using the newer version. I have used AOSP, Carbon rom, MIUI, you name it, I have tried it.
Having said that, I just got a 16 GB Nexus 4 for 160$ from someone in 9.5/10 condition. with a good rubber case. Its fully functional, I checked. And this is where I am confused.
Should I keep the sensation 4g and sell the Nexus 4 for upto 250$ or more. Or sell the sensation 4g? My main use is social networking and using google maps etc. Which phone has the better camera? Nexus 4 or Sensation? (I feel like the Sensation 8mp is less noisy vs nexus 4 camera. please advise)
Hope to hear your thoughts on this query. Thank you for taking the time to read this. May all your devices keep running happily. :cyclops::angel:
ib.ch said:
Dear gang, hope all of you are doing well. I need your expert opinion on something. I love my HTC Sensation 4G. Got two batteries for it, a dock, and i am always blown away by its camera. It sometimes lags (especillay when on 4g and out in the real world), but nothing that I cannot accept. The maps is glitchy as well, and I cannot use the old format after using the newer version. I have used AOSP, Carbon rom, MIUI, you name it, I have tried it.
Having said that, I just got a 16 GB Nexus 4 for 160$ from someone in 9.5/10 condition. with a good rubber case. Its fully functional, I checked. And this is where I am confused.
Should I keep the sensation 4g and sell the Nexus 4 for upto 250$ or more. Or sell the sensation 4g? My main use is social networking and using google maps etc. Which phone has the better camera? Nexus 4 or Sensation? (I feel like the Sensation 8mp is less noisy vs nexus 4 camera. please advise)
Hope to hear your thoughts on this query. Thank you for taking the time to read this. May all your devices keep running happily. :cyclops::angel:
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If you are willing to root and flash custom rom it is worth to keep the N4, for the camera you can use other cameras (Focal,Snap) and battery life should be 3-4 SOT (but depends (I can get 7)), however without root N4 overheats and the battery is 3 hours tops (usually 2.5)
ib.ch said:
Dear gang, hope all of you are doing well. I need your expert opinion on something. I love my HTC Sensation 4G. Got two batteries for it, a dock, and i am always blown away by its camera. It sometimes lags (especillay when on 4g and out in the real world), but nothing that I cannot accept. The maps is glitchy as well, and I cannot use the old format after using the newer version. I have used AOSP, Carbon rom, MIUI, you name it, I have tried it.
Having said that, I just got a 16 GB Nexus 4 for 160$ from someone in 9.5/10 condition. with a good rubber case. Its fully functional, I checked. And this is where I am confused.
Should I keep the sensation 4g and sell the Nexus 4 for upto 250$ or more. Or sell the sensation 4g? My main use is social networking and using google maps etc. Which phone has the better camera? Nexus 4 or Sensation? (I feel like the Sensation 8mp is less noisy vs nexus 4 camera. please advise)
Hope to hear your thoughts on this query. Thank you for taking the time to read this. May all your devices keep running happily. :cyclops::angel:
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Hands down sell the Sensation. I owned one and the LCD panels they use in that phone are atrocious. Worst ghosting and refresh rate problems I've ever seen plus horrible viewing angles. The specs on the two phones speak for themselves. You won't regret it
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corwest said:
Hands down sell the Sensation. I owned one and the LCD panels they use in that phone are atrocious. Worst ghosting and refresh rate problems I've ever seen plus horrible viewing angles. The specs on the two phones speak for themselves. You won't regret it
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And what is your take on the cameras sir? Is the Nexus 4 camera satisfying? Thank you for replying.
salehmbaker said:
If you are willing to root and flash custom rom it is worth to keep the N4, for the camera you can use other cameras (Focal,Snap) and battery life should be 3-4 SOT (but depends (I can get 7)), however without root N4 overheats and the battery is 3 hours tops (usually 2.5)
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And the camera for nexus 4? is it better with Focal? Thank you for replying
ib.ch said:
And the camera for nexus 4? is it better with Focal? Thank you for replying
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personally I find it ok (almost the same) for better quality and free camera360 and LenovoSuperCamera (it is ported from Lenovo rom) I find them better for dark room photos, btw I don't know if it is the custom rom or the fact of the update to 4.2.2 and 4.3 (I rooted my phone after a week from when I got it) but I think the photo quality improved a lot with the updates (or the custom rom improvements I really don't know). But Personally I think it is not bad camera PM me and I will send you photos
What? Sensation? Never heard of that.
I hated my Sensation, was not as good as the my touch 4G. Anyway get the Nexus 4, or wait for the 5.
Why I hated Sensation:
Slow data speeds
Bad battery life
SLOW dual core, felt worse than the single cores in my Sig
Dust under the screen issue, hard to stop
Needs more RAM
Why I prefer nexus 4:
Development/support
Faster, much, like Krillin vs Ss3 goku
Better design, larger screen, etc
LTE on T-Mobile
Glass back is sparkly
Great battery
GPS has been reliable for times I needed it
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And the camera for nexus 4? is it better with Focal? Thank you for replying
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There are plenty of online samples of the Nexus 4 camera shots, just check them out for yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2000602
Nexus 4 absolutely. Trust us... this phone is great (although there is allways something which is not perfect and people is too demanding IMO) and kit-kat is soon
I too came from the sensation 4g. Wouldn't go back for anything.
When it comes to camera they both have an 8 megapixel rear camera and I don't notice much difference. The N4 has a better front camera.
mess around with them both for a few days. See which one "feels" best for you.
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ofc n4!!! also my n4 doesn't even get warm when gaming i have no idea why they call it overhead 0_0
its awesome NOO battery life problem!! and come on n4 i so much more powerful better screen but still sensation is incredible too (not htc incredible)
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ib.ch said:
Dear gang, hope all of you are doing well. I need your expert opinion on something. I love my HTC Sensation 4G. Got two batteries for it, a dock, and i am always blown away by its camera. It sometimes lags (especillay when on 4g and out in the real world), but nothing that I cannot accept. The maps is glitchy as well, and I cannot use the old format after using the newer version. I have used AOSP, Carbon rom, MIUI, you name it, I have tried it.
Having said that, I just got a 16 GB Nexus 4 for 160$ from someone in 9.5/10 condition. with a good rubber case. Its fully functional, I checked. And this is where I am confused.
Should I keep the sensation 4g and sell the Nexus 4 for upto 250$ or more. Or sell the sensation 4g? My main use is social networking and using google maps etc. Which phone has the better camera? Nexus 4 or Sensation? (I feel like the Sensation 8mp is less noisy vs nexus 4 camera. please advise)
Hope to hear your thoughts on this query. Thank you for taking the time to read this. May all your devices keep running happily. :cyclops::angel:
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sorry. keep sensation i say get n5 i would probably do that!!!! great idea
ib.ch said:
And what is your take on the cameras sir? Is the Nexus 4 camera satisfying? Thank you for replying.
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Both cameras are meh. Neither have good low light quality but in good light they are pretty good. N4 being a little better to me.
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I had the sensation and I would never go back to it. The nexus 4 is astonishing and a completely different phone but never the less instant updates for n4 and not for the sensation and things the devs can do is amazing.
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I've had both - own a N4 now - though I thoroughly enjoyed my Sensation, I'll never buy another non-Nexus device ever again.
This is the first time I have NOT run a custom ROM on my device. 4.3 has been very good for me in terms of stability and battery life. The camera is okay - its not going to replace my DSLR, but for quick shots with decent lighting, it definitely gets the job done.
Nexus 4
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[SOLVED] [Awesome]How is the G2?

Basically, because my family is switching from at&t to Sprint and paying a quarter of a family plan is way cheaper than my own plan, I also have to switch to Sprint.
I refuse to downgrade on my phone, because I'm really not feeling anything slower than a dual core with 2GB RAM after being spoiled by my galaxy s3 for so long.
The options in my price range right now are the S4, the Motorola G, and the LG G2. Of those three, the G2 looks the most appealing because I'm a big dude with huge hands (wine bottles look like beer bottles in my hand) and the volume rocker being on the back seems way more intuitive because that's where my index, middle, and ring fingers rest with my pinky cradling the bottom of the phone.
So, design and specs wise it's a no brainer, but what do you guys think about the stock experience? How is the camera in real life usage? Is the battery life decent? (I know that last one is extremely subjective based on how the phone is used)
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imo - this phone is the BEES KNEES
It was pretty damn amazing stock, straight out of the box. battery lasted longer than any smartphone ive ever had. great camera too.
since rooting and flashing a custom kernel im getting 24+ hours on battery with pretty heavy usage throughout the day.
Yeah this phone is a straight beast and is better than the iPhone 5S and the Note 3 and I have owned both of those devices. Battery is a beast and the way LG handles Android is phenomenal! You won't regret it.
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The stock experience is pretty good, IMO. And that includes the battery life. Of course, rooting and customizing it will get you even more performance and battery life.
You will not regret getting it. An all around awesome phone like the rest have said.
Take the plunge,mate!
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Well let me put it this way.....my last s3 used to be bak to the charger at 6 pm after unplugging at 8 am......now i go to bed at 12 am and my g2 has 45-50% juice on it! Thats for battery.......for the experience, this phone allowed me to change icons out of the box....to me no need for a launcher which is great......lag wise: never experienced any.....redraws are minimal.......camera is on par with competitors......all in all, best phone experience i've had since i started using androids probably 8 yrs ago!
The only real decision with this phone is should I get a black or white one. Or you can get a red or gold on off ebay.
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Stock was okay but this a pretty good phone I had a galaxy s4 before this didn't like it nearly as much but then again my galaxy s4 came with Knox and a bootloader that can't be unlocked
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Thank you for all of your responses, guys. You've made my decision very, very easy. G2 it is!
I look forward to getting my hands on it in the next few days and starting work on porting my favorite rom (miui)
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Guys, to not open a new topic, I'll ask some questions here. I have a Note3 but I can't get used to it since is too big. Looking on Nexus 5 thread, it seems that is plagued with many defects (dead pixels, low volume, bad battery...). I can't see any other replacement since in my country G2 is actually at the same price as G2.
Here are my questions:
1. How is the process of flashing custom roms and reverting back to stock in case of warranty problems ? As you may know on Note 3 there is a knox flag which invalidates warranty if a custom rom is flashed. So how is on LG G2?
2. How is the back of the phone feel ? Doesn't give a feeling that is slippery ? Can it be hold confortably ?
3.I see many complains that you hear noises when you hold/press on the backside of the phone. Is this true ?
4. I see that there are many variants, I am from Europe and I want a variant which is compatible with cyanogenMod. Which one should I get? D802?
5. Can somebody which owned maybe a Nexus 4 or a Note 3 how it feels in hand when used ? The size is not too big ? I really find the n4's form factor as the best for me.
Thanks a lot.
1. You can flash back to stock without any major hassle.
2. The back is slippery and a fingerprint magnet. Grab a case, you won't regret it. This phone is too fragile.
3. No, just because a few had that issue, it doesn't mean every one has it. Mine creaks but follow #2.
4. yes D802 for EU.
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Thanks a lot @vPro97
Is it too fragile because of the plastic used or because of small bezels ? Unfortunately I never use cases. This is a thing I need to put more thoughts into.
I forgot to ask about the screen, anyone having backlight bleeding ?
Woot. I did it. I now own the Sprint LG G2!
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