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nexus problems vs mt4g

So I'm debating trading in my mt4g for the nexus. I picked it up a couple weeks ago and i'm not 100% sure I'm sold on it.
I got one with a washed out screen. so thats a negative. also the battery life sucks. I found I dont do as much web surfing as I thought I might, so 4g is becoming a little more moot...
So I know the positives about the nexus. (screen, 2.3, fast updates and Dev support)
I'm wondering about the negatives. There has to be some. Right? hows battery life? does the phone feel cheap/ or creek?
Please let me know and be honest I would like to be sure if i'm to trade it in. Thank you.

Eppidemic said:
So I'm debating trading in my mt4g for the nexus. I picked it up a couple weeks ago and i'm not 100% sure I'm sold on it.
I got one with a washed out screen. so thats a negative. also the battery life sucks. I found I dont do as much web surfing as I thought I might, so 4g is becoming a little more moot...
So I know the positives about the nexus. (screen, 2.3, fast updates and Dev support)
I'm wondering about the negatives. There has to be some. Right? hows battery life? does the phone feel cheap/ or creek?
Please let me know and be honest I would like to be sure if i'm to trade it in. Thank you.
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I hate doing this to people, but please use the search function, there have been sooo many threads like this its hard to take a new one serious

if ur nitpicky, keep the mytouch.

I went to play w/ the MT4G for the first time about a week after I got my Nexus S and i must say that its looks like a piece of trash compared to my MT4G. Glad I waited for it. Just my Amoled screen is enough to make me look down on that mytouch. I love HTC but....

MT4G looks ugly, I mean very ugly imho. Nexus s is way better looking. If I can get flexibilty and awesomeness of android in a very nice looking phone, I'm in. MT4G is ugly especially that earpice.
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Ive said it over and over again, I rather take ontime updates over the look of something

My touch is a horrible android experience. Get rid of it and get any other android phone.
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So would anyone care to name off some of the problems that have been reported with the NS? I might not care about some features the NS might have vs the mt4g. I'm interested in hardware and physical problems like barry or screen issues. Things like that...
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I have nexus s and my wife has the mt4g. It's all on what u prefer. I had the nexus one and want to continue with nexus. The mt4g isn't bad though.
Believers b3ar fruit with their Nexus S.....

I have used both for a good week, both have pretty bad battery life, I web browse and listen to music, go on YouTube make phone calls and text all over 3g and with wifi, I think the Nexus S has better battery life, besides the wifi tether issue ( there is usually an error after you enable it, still worms but not very responsively). I am sold more on the Nexus just cause I love the cameras, both cameras are really nice. HTC boasts about 10 MP and 8 MP, but I would rather have a 5 MP Samsung camera than a 12 MP HTC camera. In the end, we all know HYC will abandon it for a good couple of months until the next update is announced, then they will give it Gingerbread( my assumption by the way). While the Nexus S is great, don't give up your device just to get it... not worth the trouble, especially since both devices will be outdated in a few weeks. Wait for a better device before going through the trouble. If you really want the latest Google Android OS, go for the Nexus, and stick with it until the next big Google device in the future.
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The nexus is missing some of the more popular video coddecs and there are issues with the keyboard when you're typing fast, but awesome phone is awesome and I'd rather have it than mt4g.
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Honestly, the Nexus S feels like a big rushed project. Lack of basics like SD, notification LED, and HSPA+ just make you scratch your head. Sure, it's a sexy device, and the curved glass and SAMOLED are almost enough to make you ignore these flaws, but it isn't worth it to me. In my opinion, the Nexus S is in the same "generation" as the MT4G, and both will be outdated shortly. I recommend keeping the cheaper of the two and just getting a new device when the next generation of Android devices arrives this spring.
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N1 vs Nexus S

Which one is better and why? I'm really in need of new phone please help me.
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I go for LG optimus x2, it's a dual core phone.
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Depends on what you want out of an Android phone. You can't buy the Nexus One directly from Google, you can with the Nexus S though (and Best Buy). I still have the Nexus One and I really don't see myself even considering the S due to the lack of things I need (FFC is useless, plastic throws me off).

So if I buy N1 would it be upgradable to honeycomb? And is it fast compare to x10? That's what I currently have?
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the_ahmadzais said:
Which one is better and why? I'm really in need of new phone please help me.
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I have the nexus one, but if i could choose now - I'll definitely go for the Nexus S without a doubt.
The touch screen on the nexus one is abysmal. It has multiple freezing issues, and a boatload of bugs that no one is bothering to fix. It's also much slower than the S... i've had a play on my brother's S, and it's so smooth, responsive.. amazing phone.
Also, you're guaranteed to survive at least 1 Android upgrade with the Nexus S, seeing as it's the flagship google dev phone as of now. The nexus one... not sure how much longer it can go. probably a while, but that would be do to the mod community and not the official channels.
Go Nexus S and don't look back.

the_ahmadzais said:
So if I buy N1 would it be upgradable to honeycomb? And is it fast compare to x10? That's what I currently have?
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Yes it will. You are basically comparing phones with the same hardware, both 1 GHz, 480 x 800, 5 MP, capacitive buttons, etc. Updates should be reasonably quick depending on how Andy Rubin runs things.
Oh and the major difference being that the Nexus One has dual noise canceling mics, phones calls are going to be crisp and better for the person on the other end. The Nexus S has a front facing camera, once Skype gets on Android, it might take off.

I have the Nexus One and my wife has the Nexus S. Neither is rooted. I find the USER EXPERIENCE on the Nexus S to be MUCH BETTER than the Nexus One. Larger and brighter display that you can use outside. Not the fingerprint magnet the Nexus One is. Much smoother touch screen experience. And I don't know what all the fuss is about the plastic case vs the metal case. I find it very sturdy and it even feels better in your hand. It's faster at almost everything. You can even hear the speakerphone. Don't get me wrong, I love my Nexus One. But if some one ask me if i would trade it for a Nexus S... Without any hesitation YES!

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And I don't know what all the fuss is about the plastic case vs the metal case.
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Fingerprinting on the battery door. If you get fingerprints all over the Nexus One battery door, I am surprised. On the Nexus S, not so much.

I had the n1 one for about a year and upgraded to the nexus s just 2 weeks ago. I find the battery life to be amazing (full day normal use) on the nexus s. The most important improvement has been the touch screen, not cause i play games, but for typing. I noticed that im making less mistakes on the nexus s and my speed has gone up substantially, i also had gingerbread on my n1.

Go with the Motorola Atrix or a new tablet.

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Go with the Motorola Atrix or a new tablet.
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Tablets are for sick people.
Both Nexus phones are great and both have their problems...but nothing is perfect!

I had the nexus S for about two weeks before I had to return it since T-Mobile service is horrible where I live.
I've gotta say that the S is better in most aspects. The screen is amazingly bright and easy to read in sunlight. The screen also registers fast typing much better, so I make a lot less mistakes.
Stock gingerbread is so fast and smooth.
However I didn't like the glossy plastic construction on the NS. It was a fingerprint magnet. Also, the quality control on new units were terrible.
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the only thing that I keep N1 is to stay with T-Mobile $5.99 old unlimited data plan.

[Q] Nexus 4 - Am I making a mistake?

I am an avid fan of the Samsung S series of phones. I've had a few and to date think the S3 is the best they've done so far (S4 notwithstanding). But, I love the Google Nexus series of phones and have owned one, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. I purchased the Nexus 4 on Saturday from Google and I cannot wait to get it. I love the bareness of the Nexus line. I love Android in its stock form. Thing is, I'm going from one of the best selling phones to a midlevel device. Am I making a mistake doing this? What am I loosing? Currently, we do have LTE in our area but it's sucking the heck out of my battery on the S3 so I'm not concerned if the N4 has no LTE. Am I gaining anything from going to the N4? Is the camera good enough? What about the sound on it - it sucked moose butt on the SGN!
I'm hoping for some comments and opinions that will help me in evaluating this latest purchase and what to expect. Thanks guys:good:

Mid-level? You do realize a quad core chip and 2gb of ram make this a high-level device as for lte I personally don't use it and camera is better then the galaxy nexus but isn't the best obviously for the price speakers do fine as well
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Wait until the 15th this month, there is a revised Nexus 4 to be released that should support full LTE, 32 GB of storage and maybe other upgrades. For the current one i`am very happy with it, the camera is a bit less than in the S3, but the cpu and gpu are much better. The screen is fantastic, bright, crisp and a good vieuwing angles. For me it is an upgrade compared to the S3 or even the S4 (wich i`am gona skip for sure). The N4 has no bloatware and great development. And for a very good price.
BTW the N4 is not mid level

Crap...I shoulda waited. I forgot about the LTE version coming out! Oh wells...it's already paid for. Has LG stepped it up on the Nexus line? I've never been a fan of them but in my opinion, Google wouldn't brand their phone if it wasn't any good. As good as the S3 is, it feels slow opening stuff sometimes even with a fresh factory refresh. It's got some good internals so it makes no sense why it does this...this always bugged me. It wasn't a deal breaker as the camera on this phone is sick! Great picture quality on it.

can6rxw said:
Crap...I shoulda waited. I forgot about the LTE version coming out! Oh wells...it's already paid for. Has LG stepped it up on the Nexus line? I've never been a fan of them but in my opinion, Google wouldn't brand their phone if it wasn't any good. As good as the S3 is, it feels slow opening stuff sometimes even with a fresh factory refresh. It's got some good internals so it makes no sense why it does this...this always bugged me. It wasn't a deal breaker as the camera on this phone is sick! Great picture quality on it.
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The internal storage of the Galaxy S4 is 16GB and 7GB is for the OS and lots and lots of gimmicks/bloatware/crap. 9GB available for the user We on the N4 have about 13GB left.

I don't think branding the N4 as a mid level device is correct or at least in my opinion. Perhaps it's the price tag that makes it "mid level" or whatever the reason is, the Nexus 4 is more of a high end device for cheap.
I bought a brand new GS3 from a friend a few weeks ago and I don't like it anymore. It was a good idea I didn't get it last year when it came out. I'm gonna sell it...
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Yeah, the N4 is a high-end phone for a mid-range price. Absolute bargain.
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Its odd the “mid range" stigma that's put on the N4 by average consumer, even here at xda. I've seen hundreds of post from various forums or sites in the comments with people calling it that and ironically they are Galaxy users who usually say things like this poster also did about the UI being sluggish while confidently calling the S a high end device lol. OP glad you got the N4, you'll be more than satisfied I believe, you'll read a bunch of complaints on here, but like absolutely any other phone available if you read enough threads on here people will have funky devices or just nit picky problems. UI is awesome, storage is pretty sufficient, OS barely uses any space, I have probably 1000 pics, 30 albums and maybe 50 apps including CSR Racing which is large and have about 4.5gigs free. Lacking LTE maybe an issue for some, but honestly I think it becomes a feature option issue for most, the inability to claim LTE rights amongst other phone users lol, I'm on T-Mobile and live in Philadelphia, my data is always fast, in most real world scenarios as fast as my boys DNA, and as fast as my brother in laws S3 on AT&T. Camera is another issue for some, not for others, look on the pic from n4 thread, when you work at it, the phone is capable of taking some amazing shots, on the fly pull your phone out and snap can be hit or miss but why some people expect or even need their phone to be art gallery worthy pics I don't know lol. Speaker, is well a speaker, I can hear when I need to, but all this talk of the HTC having "boom" sound and dual speakers for what? If I wanna host a mini rave with my phone? Lol I just don't see the real world use for it. Summing it up, everyone that has touched my N4 since I got it, users of iPhone, S phones and even my cousin who still won't let BlackBerry die has loved this phone after spending as little as 10 minutes with it. Feels great in the hand, UI is always snappy, screen is crisp.
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Great replies everyone...thank you. I've read a lot of reviews and such and most of them calls the N4 a midrange phone. In my opinion, they do it based on the price and public (uninformed) preception. I used the same phrase here based on these although loving stock android like I do, I'd be calling it high end. The Camera for me is a nice addition because working as a tech for UPS, I travel around some and get to see the sights along the way. In doing so, it's nice to have a quality camera onhand to take some pictures of where I've been. I don't always take a "camera" as I travel light so having a quality one with me is very handy, which is why I ask what the quality is on the N4. I've read a lot on XDA and seen some pics and it is hit and miss from what I see but a definate upgrage from the SGN.
I've read a lot about the back breaking/cracking. I'm thinking it's a good idea to get a sheild for the back at least. I've never been a fan of putting one on the front as I like the smooth feeling while sliding/swyping.

can6rxw said:
Great replies everyone...thank you. I've read a lot of reviews and such and most of them calls the N4 a midrange phone. In my opinion, they do it based on the price and public (uninformed) preception. I used the same phrase here based on these although loving stock android like I do, I'd be calling it high end. The Camera for me is a nice addition because working as a tech for UPS, I travel around some and get to see the sights along the way. In doing so, it's nice to have a quality camera onhand to take some pictures of where I've been. I don't always take a "camera" as I travel light so having a quality one with me is very handy, which is why I ask what the quality is on the N4. I've read a lot on XDA and seen some pics and it is hit and miss from what I see but a definate upgrage from the SGN.
I've read a lot about the back breaking/cracking. I'm thinking it's a good idea to get a sheild for the back at least. I've never been a fan of putting one on the front as I like the smooth feeling while sliding/swyping.
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I'd agree with putting on a back glass protector. If anything the Nexus is a more high-end phone than the S3 tbh, the S4 Pro trumps the Exynos; 2GB RAM > 1, the screen is at a higher resolution and the build feels more premium than the S3. The only reason it's sometimes called a mid range phone is because of the price. There also seems to be a lot of hate for it on the internet though, which is odd because everyone I know who has one likes it. I think that it's only because loads of people wanted one but had huge delays when ordering it.

A case will provide more protection than a back protector.
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Slim but tough is what I'd want in a case. Know which is best?

scream4cheese said:
A case will provide more protection than a back protector.
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True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.

can6rxw said:
True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.
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Then take the Rearth Ringke Fusion Case. Have it myself and i think its great. Not bulky, good grip and protection and clear back.

gee2012 said:
Then take the Rearth Ringke Fusion Case. Have it myself and i think its great. Not bulky, good grip and protection and clear back.
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I have that case. As a matter of fact I have so many cases for this phone that I only use my diztronic case. Lol.

scream4cheese said:
I have that case. As a matter of fact I have so many cases for this phone that I only use my diztronic case. Lol.
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There`s not much choice in cases for the N4 in the Netherlands and ordered it in the UK. Do you have the XDA case also?

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There`s not much choice in cases for the N4 in the Netherlands and ordered it in the UK. Do you have the XDA case also?
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I don't have the XDA case. I don't like the color and design.
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True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.
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If you want the rearth ringke fusion case I can give it to you for free if you live in the U.S. I don't need it. It's just sitting in my desk drawer not being used.
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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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The S4 is 850-900 USD in the Netherlands off contract

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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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Well either way the S3/S4 are high-end devices. I doubt the Nexus 4 beats the both devices. The S4 has a newer CPU and it's software features are awesome in my opinion.
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Forgive the SONY user but need help!

Hi all, currently I'm Sony Xperia S user but after a year of usage I got tired of it, very unhappy with build quality and the speed of the device. The thing is I'm planning to get Nexus 4 (white) in about few weeks and I'd like to know the impression of N4 users. If you have some spare time please write something about the device, camera performance. Thanks in advance!

MADNJPN said:
Hi all, currently I'm Sony Xperia S user but after a year of usage I got tired of it, very unhappy with build quality and the speed of the device. The thing is I'm planning to get Nexus 4 (white) in about few weeks and I'd like to know the impression of N4 users. If you have some spare time please write something about the device, camera performance. Thanks in advance!
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My friend has an xperia s and it lags like hell when he scrolls through the UI, he's on stock unrooted.
Get the nexus 4, it's a beast. Camera performance compared to some other phones is acceptable, but far from being the best.
There are many threads about impressions and thoughts around here, mostly you'll find satisfied users.
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I upgraded from a XS to the N4 a month ago. You won't be disappointed The first thing you will notice is the screen is a lot better, but the colours do need adjusting for the best results otherwise it will look washed out. I've been getting the same battery life as I did with the XS so no issues there. The build quality is OK, not brilliant, but acceptable for the price.
I never had any speed/lag issue with the XS on SEMC ROM but the N4 does feel nippier. The camera seems faster on the N4 but I had issues with the XS camera so can't compare directly.

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My friend has an xperia s and it lags like hell when he scrolls through the UI, he's on stock unrooted.
Get the nexus 4, it's a beast. Camera performance compared to some other phones is acceptable, but far from being the best.
There are many threads about impressions and thoughts around here, mostly you'll find satisfied users.
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Yea, thanks !! I've searched around the forum and liked the pictures taken with N4, also almost everyone is satisfied.

MADNJPN said:
Yea, thanks !! I've searched around the forum and liked the pictures taken with N4, also almost everyone is satisfied.
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I'm one of those unsatisfied with the camera , because i had a galaxy s3 before and i know what phone cameras are capable of nowadays. But anyways, it's a compromise, nexus line was never about cameras...
As for the screen, some people will tell you it's washed out and to mess around with it, i think it is a subjective thing, my phone is rooted,but i kept the stock colors because i like them.
Performance wise, nothing comes close to a nexus and a stock android experience.
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rayiskon said:
I'm one of those unsatisfied with the camera , because i had a galaxy s3 before and i know what phone cameras are capable of nowadays. But anyways, it's a compromise, nexus line was never about cameras...
As for the screen, some people will tell you it's washed out and to mess around with it, i think it is a subjective thing, my phone is rooted,but i kept the stock colors because i like them.
Performance wise, nothing comes close to a nexus and a stock android experience.
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Thanks for your impressions. I love XS, I love it's camera and it really performs very well that's why it's hard for me to switch from cameraphone to Performance monster.

I came from a S2 Skyrocket.
The camera is meh @ best. Samsung really does have rocking cameras. N4 is Okay in decent light. Sucks in low light conditions.
The pure android OS with the hardware this phone has for the price is awesome.
The screen is really crisp and I don't find the colors wash.
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mrhiab said:
I came from a S2 Skyrocket.
The camera is meh @ best. Samsung really does have rocking cameras. N4 is Okay in decent light. Sucks in low light conditions.
The pure android OS with the hardware this phone has for the price is awesome.
The screen is really crisp and I don't find the colors wash.
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Yea, I held one of the Nexus 4 when I was in a shop and it looks and feels great, screen colors look very natural I liked them, but then I saw Xperia Z ... 13mp + microsd card slot + water resist ... makes me worry , should I risk and take SONY again ( Sony fan about 13 sony phones ) or take nexus ...

The Test of Time?

Now that this phone has been out for over a year, does anybody have any complaints?
How's the battery life?
Has it, or does it ever randomly freeze?
Anything you hate about it now that you've been using it for some time?
Lastly, I found this phone and the LG Optimus G new for around the same price range, the Nexus 4 being around $20 more expensive. Aside from the removable SD card on the Optimus G and LTE support, and the potentially removable battery on this phone, are there any other differences? If you had a choice to go with either phone once again, and neither the SD card, LTE support, nor battery being an issue in making your decision, which would you go with, and why? I believe the only other difference would be the Android support, with the Nexus 4 running 4.4.2, and the Optimus G running 4.1.2.
In other words, my friend is stuck between making a decision between the two and doesn't know which to go with.
Thanks!

Dude they look like almost the exact same phone. The only difference I can see on GSM Arena is that the Optimus has a (market dependent) 13 mp camera vs Nexus's 8mp subpar camera. If it did have a 13mp camera I would get the Optimus. Otherwise as bad as I hate to say it I just can't make myself get another phone at this point. I realllly want an LG G2 but it's like having a car that's paid for that you've become comfortable with and you got it like you like it. Although there are other models that may be a little bigger and get a little better gas mileage and have the navigation built into the steering wheel. Lol. My phone gets phenomenal battery life, can be upgraded to 4.4.2. Will continue to get a fair amount of developer support. Has a super cool glass back. I mean I think it's a good decision. I would probably never get another phone if I had a better camera... Tough choice.
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Yeah, they're essentially the same phone. That's the reason for the troubles, because the differences are so minor, I was just wondering if there was anything bigger than what was posted on a web a year ago.

If your friend doesn't care for LTE or more storage, then nexus 4 would be better. Running latest android version, lots of development support, looks fabulous with the glass back, running very smooth, battery is average but hey, this is a smartphone mate. of course it would gobble down battery fast (still I got almost 7 hours of sot with 22 hours of usage, not very average ain't it? ) But then, it depends on your friend, if he's not so much into rooting or updating android version, many of the nexus advantages would be nothing to him.

The screen will go at some point. Mine just did after 14 months. I was lucky. Some had theirs go funny at 6 months and LG refused to change the screen under warranty. My soft keys don't work in landscape. Only solution is a new screen. Save yourself the headache and buy something else.
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lombardo8 said:
The screen will go at some point. Mine just did after 14 months. I was lucky. Some had theirs go funny at 6 months and LG refused to change the screen under warranty. My soft keys don't work in landscape. Only solution is a new screen. Save yourself the headache and buy something else.
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Just to clarify, which screen will go out? The Nexus 4?
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The performance and the display are excellent.
Battery life is ok.
But the LTE and the really bad camera make me consider an upgrade.
I would recommend to get a newer device.

About a year old now and this is still the sexiest phone. True there are better options but for the price it is still a tough one to beat. Zero issues with it, was my wife's at first, she broke the LCD a few months in (not the phones fault as she has broken half a dozen phones now) so she moved to wp8 (great for her) I took the n4 and swapped a new digitizer/LCD in it and it has been flawless for 8 months or so now.
I have played with a lot of the newer phones and this one still competes great, yes the camera could be better but for my purposes it is still perfect, oh and did I mention sexy as hell?
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