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Galaxy S II on ATT Oct 2nd $199

Sorry if its a repost. So whos going to upgrade!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/21/...akes-its-atandt-debut-october-2nd-for-199-on/
Im not biased to any phone. I like anything new and high powered. Cant get me wrong I love my Atrix but the Galaxy S II is tempting.

i'm pretty happy with my Atrix, i think i'm gonna hold off on upgrading until a decent quad core phone comes out on the market.

Not enough of an upgrade to think about it.
The Devs have really just started to take this phone to its capabilities so worth hanging in for a while longer.
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When the SGSII came out back in... May(ish), it seems liked I should have not gotten an Atrix and waited for the SGSII to come to AT&T. the SGSII had a bigger screen, faster CPU, no Blur, no locked bootloader, and already had a pre-beta of Cyanogen out within two weeks of the phone hitting the international market.
Fast Foward to today. The Atrix has an unlocked bootloader, a *solid* beta of CM7, MIUI in the works, a bigger battery, and the performance is close to that of the SGS (in CM7 while OC'd) - in some tests it is noticeabley faster.
The SGSII also seems to have some hardware issues that have been reported. Yellowing of the screen on the left side is the most reported issue.
Now look to the future because the SGSII isn't going to come out for another two weeks. Should we have all waited to get an SGSII? No way, not IMHO. I was sitting on an iPhone 3GS for months and months after I was eligible for an upgrade, I was just waiting until something big came out or the phone died. I'll be honest, at first I did regret my Atrix purchase at times. Software versus 4.1.26 had a TON of bugs in it, 4.1.57 did too. 4.1.83 was solid, and when we got GB the phone was pretty solid. Now with CM7 I have no complaints over the phone at all, and I'm glad I didn't suffer with my iPhone 3GS for the last 7 months (I bougt the Atrix on release day) waiting for the SGSII after returning the Atrix to wait for the SGSII.
If I had waited this long for the SGSII with my iPhone 3GS, I would likely pass up the SGSII and wait for more info on the Nexus Prime.
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One thing I don't miss going from my captivate to atrix is in the power usage menu "display" being like 95%. I don't know why they say SAMOLED use less power. I know the screen on the sgs and sgs2 is different but they're close enough IMO. Also after all the BS with GPS and poor update from Samsung I don't know if I could buy another. As far as specs....IMO I don't think it's worth the upgrade the specs are really similar. The only reason I might be tempted is for the dev support.
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as someone who has had both i can assure you the atrix is a much more all-around solid piece of hardware.
like reported above the screen on the SGSii may be bigger but it has its issues (yellow left on most handsets and battery consumption).
the battery is simply way worse then atrix.
and what got to me the most about going back to the atrix was the sound quality, it was simply horrendous, especially for a high-end phone like that.
the sound chip on it is sub-par compared to the original SGS even, with high end headphones i was getting distortions, low volume, and very un-even sound, to anyone who wants to listen to music on his phone this one simply kills the deal.
atrix has a very very good audio experience compared.
same goes for call quality.
and the phone doesnt even have a led for notifications.
also doesnt have an hdmi-out without you buying some special cable adapter.
what does seem to be on its side is a huge dev base working on it and realeasing things daily but the atrix is starting to catch up... just give it some time.
either way upgrading from a atrix to a galaxy 2 is pretty stupid, except for a bit larger screen you really dont get anything in return for all that cash.
i'd wait atleast another year before ditching the atrix. theres simply nothing today that it cant handle so why buy another "future proof" phone when your current one is still "future proof"

Definitely sticking with my atrix <3
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It appears to have a lot of dev support, but how many of those ROM's are the exact same thing with a different theme? That's the way the Captivate was until CM7 dropped...everything was the same.
I'll stick with the Atrix.
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... the screen on the SGSII is so lustworthy... it oozes awesomeness. Other then that --- Atrix is better IMO.
i want both.
iphone5 too if its nice.

i just upgraded this july so no sgsII for me. the galaxy was going to be my upgrade, but it just took too long to come out. also, it's not gonna be the latest and greatest anymore like it would've been when it came out internationally, the sgsIII will probably be out internationally in 6 months since most phone lines get upgraded yearly.
my friend mentioned the PS Vita yesterday and i'm doing research on that to see if it has enough functions to become a phone for me.

s1mpd1ddy said:
... the screen on the SGSII is so lustworthy... it oozes awesomeness. Other then that --- Atrix is better IMO.
i want both.
iphone5 too if its nice.
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I'd rather have an atrix with an average screen than have a SAMOLED that destroys my battery. I have an upgrade available and being 100% honest I'm waiting for a new BB QNX mobile phone to drop next year. The new 9810 with os7 was actually a pretty big step forward in speed and functionality and supposedly QNX will be able to run Android apps as well. Not saying it's gonna be the king of phones but it looks pretty cool.
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My wife is getting it in October, about 2 weeks after it comes out. She is already in love with it and the fact that we are getting the NFC enabled version made her happier. She's almost as big a nerd as I am. (I'm not allowed to touch it, she wants to do everything on her own)
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isn't the sgs2 screen still 800 x 480?

I have the infuse plus an atrix, while the screen on the infuse is so sexy,, the atrix for me has the total package,, the sgs2 for me is not that much of a upgrade from my atrix, even the infuse for that matter, sure it has godly specs, but in real world usage, even my old ass dinc still get the job done,,
I dont like where the smartphone market is heading.. things need to slow back down. alittle,, before you know it, the atrix 3 will be out 3 months after the atrix 2 at the end of the year, lol

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isn't the sgs2 screen still 800 x 480?
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It is. I wouldn't be able to go to the lower resolution.
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TheBassman369 said:
It is. I wouldn't be able to go to the lower resolution.
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yeah i forgot about that lower rez -- UGH -- why put it out at a lower rez then qHD? COME ON SAMMY.

The newer Super AMOLED Plus displays have more sub-pixels and they do not use pentile anymore which also helps eliminate the "grainy" look. I would still like to see qHD but I don't think there is going to be much to complain about on these screens.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/02/2...s-than-previous-amoled-screens-better-colors/
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus-resolution-explained
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yeah i forgot about that lower rez -- UGH -- why put it out at a lower rez then qHD? COME ON SAMMY.
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exactly why i love the screen on my infuse.. but the atrix for everything else, lol

TheBassman369 said:
It appears to have a lot of dev support, but how many of those ROM's are the exact same thing with a different theme? That's the way the Captivate was until CM7 dropped...everything was the same.
I'll stick with the Atrix.
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Not all the same - they had different themes!

live4nyy said:
The newer Super AMOLED Plus displays have more sub-pixels and they do not use pentile anymore which also helps eliminate the "grainy" look. I would still like to see qHD but I don't think there is going to be much to complain about on these screens.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/02/2...s-than-previous-amoled-screens-better-colors/
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus-resolution-explained
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I owned an Infuse and loved the screen and the colors, but I would rather have a higher resolution screen. I find the lower resolution something to complain about, although it isn't that big of a deal for some people.
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Possibly looking at the GS3, would like some opinions

I have a friend who is letting me use the upgrade on their line at the end of September to get a phone so I can keep my unlimited. As it sits right now I have a Galaxy Nexus. I love the phone but want something with newer tech. I had a few questions though.
The first being battery life of the phone compared to the GNex. I'm not at all satisfied with the performance of the Nexus regarding the battery. I average under 2 hours screen time and medium usage, and that sort of stinks. Since the S3 has the same size battery as my extended I have now, is the batter life good in those regards?
Secondly there are some good looking phones coming down the line. I'm a picky person when it comes to screens. Is the quality good regarding the screen? I have some burn in on my nexus and I don't know how the S3 is. Also, the nexus has an annoying issue where the screen loses sensitivity after a while. Does that happen on the S3 as well?
Would I be better waiting for the Note 2, RAZR maxx HD, or the HTC device or getting the S3?
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Here's my personal opinion;
If you're looking for newer tech, why don't you wait for the new Nexus phone(s) coming around December? The S3 is bound to lag behind upcoming phones because technology is moving really fast.
Since the Galaxy S3 has the same screen as the Galaxy Nexus, it is bound to be affected by screen burns after a year or more. The screen quality is excellent but Super AMOLED screens are prone to burn-ins. The Note 2 has a better screen, in my opinion.
The battery life of the S3 is superb! Really. My friend's Nexus doesn't last long at all whilst my S3 can last for a long time!
Stick with the Nexus for now.

Thanks for the honest responses. I wish more companies would follow HTC and use super LCD2, the screen is awesome and crystal clear. I like the note 2 but I fear it might be just too big.
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Just wait a bit for the optimus g or a bit more for the new nexus. The sg3 is great, but there are going to be a few better choises very soon, at least hardware-wise. Then razr maxx hd looks promising, It might be a good bet considering the google acquisition of moto...

I have never been a fan of LG, they always seem to be lacking. I heard a rumor about the new nexus being the 5 inch phablet from HTC. Not sure how I feel about having a super big phone. I'll have to check out the note 2 to figure out if I could handle it.
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chrisjm00 said:
I have never been a fan of LG, they always seem to be lacking. I heard a rumor about the new nexus being the 5 inch phablet from HTC. Not sure how I feel about having a super big phone. I'll have to check out the note 2 to figure out if I could handle it.
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The razr maxx hd looks nice on videos and articles, but Its a bit thick and has a dual core cpu. Lg makes great hardware, but I've never liked the software and slow updates. There are probably going to be other devices with a s4 pro(quadcore) chip soon I would wait and go for one of those.

SGS3 is awesome... Best phone I ever had (and I had quite a few..).
Battery lasts me all day (just email, browsing & reading newsfeeds), no problem. Screen is nice, no complaints. The S3 is just gorgeous and really speedy. I use mine with a 64GB SD-Card, which is the reason why I passed on the GNex.. I need storage space for movies and music!
Best of all, I hook my S3 up to my 42in flatscreen TV (LG), and the picture is nice and crisp...
Did I already suggest you should get an S3 (Quad core)?
Sure, there will always be better & faster phones coming out, but this one just has everything you (probably) want.
Just one thing I really hate about the S3: the physical 'Home' button. HTC did that better on the Rezound (a crappy phone w/ a nice screen...), even though those morons gave it 4 buttons. - How dumb is that?
I certainly will never get another HTC as long as 'Sense' is around - even though I used to root all my phones and put Custom ROMs (preferably CM) on them anyway...
However, I have to admit that after using Samsung TouchWiz (in JB flavor) for the last 6-8 weeks, I have no desire switching to some always half-broken CM ROM anymore.
With TW, at least, all the features work.. right away!!!
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Isnt there a new HTC one x5 coming out? (seeing as you said you like htc screens, this ones meant to be 5 inches and full 1080p) could be just a rumour but have a look: http://blog.gsmarena.com/the-htc-5-phablet-to-be-the-google-nexus-5/

I am having this phone and after using a store model I found it pretty smooth.

i have to honestly say this phone is amazing. not a single fault with it.
its heavily supported by the community, paranoid android is amazing too. etc etc etc.
but as always, just look at what you need. theres never any point looking for the greatest tech, because another this or that will come along in a month and be the new 'best'.
for me, external SD card was a must, removable battery is always nice, etc etc.
either take the dive and get an S3 which will be a really really solid phone for the next 12 months and probably longer, or wait another 6 and get the next big thing, be it nexus, galaxy, HTC <insert name here>... but just make sure it does what you need (and with the number of custom roms out there, this is becoming more and more flexible)

diz_dizane said:
i have to honestly say this phone is amazing. not a single fault with it.
its heavily supported by the community, paranoid android is amazing too. etc etc etc.
but as always, just look at what you need. theres never any point looking for the greatest tech, because another this or that will come along in a month and be the new 'best'.
for me, external SD card was a must, removable battery is always nice, etc etc.
either take the dive and get an S3 which will be a really really solid phone for the next 12 months and probably longer, or wait another 6 and get the next big thing, be it nexus, galaxy, HTC <insert name here>... but just make sure it does what you need (and with the number of custom roms out there, this is becoming more and more flexible)
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Same here, this phone is great, lots of fun and also needed an SD card and battery I could swap. Nothing worse than arriving somewhere and having to wait for the phone to charge!

I was thinking of jumping from the Sensation 4G with Tmo to the GS3 since they are offering an upgrade 2 months early...I think I will stay with my rooted Sensation a bit longer its awesome anyways but I think Tmo will be getting a new line up before Christmas...Im considering the Note 2 but it may be too big Im not sure yet...just dont wanna waste an upgrade and a month later the lastest and greatest hit the market....
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A lot comes down to personal preference.
Like the first reply said why not wait until december.
I had the Galaxy S3 and I hated it.
Found it very uncomfortable to use. Impossible to operate in one had. I would try it out yourself, i wish i did, its not as smooth as everyone makes out. However, i was advised to do lots of things to it which would have made it smooth like rooting etc (i couldn't be bothered with the hassle of that)
Screen is very good but not as good as other phones and its really bad in sunlight. Almost unusable.
Dont know what battery other people have got but its not very good. You wouldn't get through a day with it thats for sure. Android fans had a tough time over the years with battery but this is an improvement.
Also, the device is not very pretty as others seem to think. Again this is personal preference. Its very plasticy and flimsy. One drop and its dead. Poor build quality.
As you can see my post is very negative due to the experience I had with it. Personally, if your an android fan wait til december.

The opposite of what he ^ said.
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antdawe said:
A lot comes down to personal preference.
Like the first reply said why not wait until december.
I had the Galaxy S3 and I hated it.
Found it very uncomfortable to use. Impossible to operate in one had. I would try it out yourself, i wish i did, its not as smooth as everyone makes out. However, i was advised to do lots of things to it which would have made it smooth like rooting etc (i couldn't be bothered with the hassle of that)
Screen is very good but not as good as other phones and its really bad in sunlight. Almost unusable.
Dont know what battery other people have got but its not very good. You wouldn't get through a day with it thats for sure. Android fans had a tough time over the years with battery but this is an improvement.
Also, the device is not very pretty as others seem to think. Again this is personal preference. Its very plasticy and flimsy. One drop and its dead. Poor build quality.
As you can see my post is very negative due to the experience I had with it. Personally, if your an android fan wait til december.
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An opinion, that most people do not share. I would just wait for the next Nexus or look at what HTC is brining out. Something tells me the new Nexus phone may be a disappointment, I do hope I'm wrong though

[Q] Happy with your Nexus 4?

I'm new to the forums here and I have the HTC One X (ATT) and I've come to hate the lack of support of it and also all of the control ATT has over the updates. So I started looking into the Nexus 4 and just wanted see how satisfied or unsatisfied actual users were with their Nexus 4. So please comment and share your thoughts!

I am satisfied with my Nexus 4. Being using for 2 weeks and it's the best your money can buy.
If storage and glass aren't a big deal, then this phone is the best choice.
PS Ordered the second one on 27th for my bro. I love it SOOO much!

ak700 said:
I am satisfied with my Nexus 4. Being using for 2 weeks and it's the best your money can buy.
If storage and glass aren't a big deal, then this phone is the best choice.
PS Ordered the second one on 27th for my bro. I love it SOOO much!
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what about the lack of LTE?

andrew.simon said:
what about the lack of LTE?
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When I am in SF for work, I have LTE but I need to use office wifi for tranfer and other stuff. At home, my LTE is soooo slow that I need to use my home wifi.
Bottom Line - I don't need LTE.

ak700 said:
When I am in SF for work, I have LTE but I need to use office wifi for tranfer and other stuff. At home, my LTE is soooo slow that I need to use my home wifi.
Bottom Line - I don't need LTE.
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Thinking about it now makes me realize that I don't have to have it and Wi-fi really is everywhere. I'm guessing you are on T-Mobile right? So you purchased at a discount?

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Thinking about it now makes me realize that I don't have to have it and Wi-fi really is everywhere. I'm guessing you are on T-Mobile right? So you purchased at a discount?
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No I order through the Play store and use tmobile pre-paid's $30 plan. Works for me. I also have Sprint, which my family uses.

Love my nexus 4... Official cm10. Official PA. official AOKP. Franco and Faux kernels...
Gorgeous 768p IPS. Luxury feel in the hand. Amazingly slick curved display (defiantly don't want to drop this phone)
Meh camera (still great though, just not exciting) and some thermal throttling (being worked on)...
Lte is a non issue as hspa± is plenty fast. I mean, it loads YouTube, music, xda all instantly. Its not like we are doing real time video games and 1080p video streaming (just runs down my data plan quicker)
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Love my nexus 4... Official cm10. Official PA. official AOKP. Franco and Faux kernels...
Gorgeous 768p IPS. Luxury feel in the hand. Amazingly slick curved display (defiantly don't want to drop this phone)
Meh camera (still great though, just not exciting) and some thermal throttling (being worked on)...
Lte is a non issue as hspa± is plenty fast. I mean, it loads YouTube, music, xda all instantly. Its not like we are doing real time video games and 1080p video streaming (just runs down my data plan quicker)
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You really make some valid points. Camera on my HTC One X is nothing crazy either. (pretty sure they have the same specs?) I'd also like to get into modding my phone and I think the Nexus would make it easy but I honestly have no idea what I would be doing. Hahaha. How do I learn more about it because I'm a complete newb.

Awesome phone, I completely love it. Don't need LTE either. External SD would have made this phone too good to be true.

Got it on the 19th, being a pig in mud since.
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BruceCLin said:
Got it on the 19th, being a pig in mud since.
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Haha. Love the metaphor! :good: I can see everyone loves their Nexus that's for sure!

andrew.simon said:
I'm new to the forums here and I have the HTC One X (ATT) and I've come to hate the lack of support of it and also all of the control ATT has over the updates. So I started looking into the Nexus 4 and just wanted see how satisfied or unsatisfied actual users were with their Nexus 4. So please comment and share your thoughts!
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I got the N4 in the mail the Monday after it came out. I too am coming from the AT&T HTC One X. I used the N4 for about a week straight before deciding to break out the ol' One X (just for a change of pace). Quite frankly, it would be hard for me to give up the N4 for the HOX now.
The HOX is a great phone, but the N4 just makes it feel slow in comparison. Maybe I'm spoiled by the speed of the N4, but I just felt like I had to wait forever to do basic things on the One X (running the latest ViperROM, btw). The HOX has better battery life, for sure, and the camera is better. I miss those two things the most. The HOX still has the best screen out there (other than the Droid DNA), but the N4 really isn't far behind. Once a few color control apps come out for the N4, my guess is that I won't really miss the screen as much. For what it's worth, I forgot just how big the HOX's screen is. When they say 4.7", they mean it. The N4 has a 4.7" screen too, but it's probably more like a 4.5" once the on-screen buttons are considered. But the additional width is really nice and almost makes up for it. I don't have LTE anywhere near me where I live, so that's irrelevant to me. I don't travel much either.
Here's my summary.
HTC One X:
- slightly better, arguably bigger screen
- better battery
- better camera (in terms of picture quality; the software is on par with the N4)
- smaller development community, although they're doing a great job imo
- poor multitasking on Sense roms (works fine on AOSP roms)
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- stock Android
- blazes through any task you throw at it
- AT&T doesn't control your phone
- easier to root, flash roms, kernels, etc.
- future proof with quad-core processor and 2GB of RAM
I am fully satisfied with my Nexus 4. I love my One X, but I will not be going back to it any time soon, most likely.

I've actually been with the iPhone since the 3GS when I came into the smartphone world. I read up about this and decided to give it a try from the 4S I was using, and I'm really enjoying the Nexus 4.
I'm still a bit apprehensive to give up iOS since I've been with it for so long--still haven't sold my 4S--but I have a feeling I'll be sticking with this phone for a while. The larger screen real-estate is also much nicer to have in general. I'm torn!

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I've actually been with the iPhone since the 3GS when I came into the smartphone world. I read up about this and decided to give it a try from the 4S I was using, and I'm really enjoying the Nexus 4.
I'm still a bit apprehensive to give up iOS since I've been with it for so long--still haven't sold my 4S--but I have a feeling I'll be sticking with this phone for a while. The larger screen real-estate is also much nicer to have in general. I'm torn!
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I feel like you and me are one in the same! The only thing I do miss is the amount of iPhone users. All my friends and family have one... Which makes me miss iMessage and group texting :/

You are on the forums and mentioned your problems with the 1X community's lack of activity.
I like the screen, but other phones have better screens which are also better calibrated. I like the camera, but indoor photos have very inaccurate white balance.
Connectivity is good (I'm using a $10 MEdia Net plan from AT&T and have used over 2GB every month and one month even went over 12GB cause my Internet was out), and I'm getting 500KB/s average (~4Mbps). Battery life is also good; I get about a day of moderate use and 6-7 hours of literally constant, active use. I am really hurting from the lack of storage as I do a lot of reporting and don't always have time to transfer the interview recordings. I do a lot of work away from a PC and need to be able to quickly seek tracks, so I have to keep he audio on internal memory.
By most people's standard, I'm very careful with my phone. I consider my usage to be of common sense and responsible practice. The Gorilla Glass is very scratch resistant, but I'm sure a few encounters with silicate and a hard surface would leave a mark.
But really, all of these things pale in comparison to one criterion: the development community. I came from a Galaxy S and the community was amazing. Though the HP Touch Pad was well known, it apparently wasn't popular enough to garner a lot of dev support and those forums are fairly sparse.
By getting a Nexus phone, you know that the every dev is prioritizing your phone over any other model they might be working on as well. Cyanogen posted. AOKP posted. Moles posted. These are the respective heads of the three best teams this community has to offer. Check their post history. They don't appear in too many other phones' forums; they usually have teammates do that. But for the Nexus 4, they want to be the ones posting. That says a lot.
And a lot of other devs know this about the community heads' devotion to the newest Nexus model. They are locked in to a N4 for the major dev support, but will also provide their own amateur, but very valuable, contributions as well.
I'm sure the 1X is a great phone. I'm sure the 1X+ is a great phone. Same goes for the DNA, Optimus G, and other leading smartphones out there. But the N4 attracts the biggest development teams, and in turn attracts smaller developers. It kind of feeds on itself, with regard to popularity. None of these other phones have so much 3rd party support going on for them.
So, if you are looking for the absolute best hardware, maybe you should keep looking (keep the N4 in mind, though). If you're looking for flexibility, know that your stuck with one battery on the road and can't expand the meager storage provided. But if your looking for ROMs, kernels, and tweaks that let you customize the phone exactly how you want it, and maximize the potential of the hardware, then look no further.
The Nexus 4 subforums are truly the promised land.

Hung0702 said:
You are on the forums and mentioned your problems with the 1X community's lack of activity.
I like the screen, but other phones have better screens which are also better calibrated. I like the camera, but indoor photos have very inaccurate white balance.
Connectivity is good (I'm using a $10 MediaNET plan from AT&T and have used over 2GB every month and one month even went over 12GB cause my Internet was out), and I'm getting 500KB/s average (~4Mbps). Battery life is also good; I get about a day of moderate use and 6-7 hours of literally constant, active use. I am really hurting from the lack of storage as I do a lot of reporting and don't always have time to transfer the interview recordings. I do a lot of work away from a PC and need to be able to quickly seek tracks, so I have to keep he audio on internal memory.
By most people's standard, I'm very careful with my phone. I consider my usage to be of common sense and responsible practice. The Gorilla Glass is very scratch resistant, but I'm sure a few encounters with silicate and a hard surface would leave a mark.
But really, all of these things pale in comparison to one criterion: the development community. I came from a Galaxy S and the community was amazing. Though the HP Touch Pad was well known, it apparently wasn't popular enough to garner a lot of dev support and those forums are fairly sparse.
By getting a Nexus phone, you know that the every dev is prioritizing your phone over any other model they might be working on as well. Cyanogen posted. AOKP posted. Moles posted. These are the respective heads of the three best teams this community has to offer. Check their post history. They don't appear in too many other phones' forums; they usually have teammates do that. But for the Nexus 4, they want to be the ones posting. That says a lot.
And a lot of other devs know this about the community heads' devotion to the newest Nexus model. They are locked in to a N4 for the major dev support, but will also provide their own amateur, but very valuable, contributions as well.
I'm sure the 1X is a great phone. I'm sure the 1X+ is a great phone. Same goes for the DNA, Optimus G, and other leading smartphones out there. But the N4 attracts the biggest development teams, and in turn attracts smaller developers. It kind of feeds on itself, with regard to popularity. None of these other phones have so much 3rd party support going on for them.
So, if you are looking for the absolute best hardware, maybe you should keep looking (keep the N4 in mind, though). If you're looking for flexibility, know that your stuck with one battery on the road and can't expand the meager storage provided. But if your looking for ROMs, kernels, and tweaks that let you customize the phone exactly how you want it, and maximize the potential of the hardware, then look no further.
The Nexus 4 subforums are truly the promised land.
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Couldn't have said it better. The best devs are working on this phone (provided if they could get one) and that is the exciting part of Nexus4. Trumps all other phones out there.
It might seem very complicated at once if you are not familiar with Android, but it's actually quite simple. And people are always there to help. I'm looking forward to at least 1 great year with this phone.
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And the fact that I am the only one I know are using it makes it super cool. I have several friends who know of N4 but didn't purchase one all liked the phone after I showed them. Their impression was the speed and the screen.
A friend asked me to purchase an iPhone for him since I'm going back to China soon. While in Apple Store, I took out my phone and google talk'ed with him. I can't help but notice the "Genius" looking at me. :laugh: And signing on that 3.5' tiny screen is just ridiculous. I paid half the price for what he is gonna pay for that piece of gadget, but I don't even have the desire to try out the iPhone 5 in their store.

When I got my N4 I was stunned at the slim look and mild colors. I wasn't sure if I'd like it after being on an SGS2 for over a year. I've gotten to where I really love everything about the phone, except the signal.. It sucks.
I can hold the phone next to my Nexus 7 or Galaxy Tab 10.1 and where I would normally get full bars of Wifi signal, I get 1 bar if I am lucky. The cellular signal is terrible as well. Living in Florida with hurricane glass and Double block walls - my SGS2 got really good signal, this thing is just garbage. If you rely on good signal, its not for you..
The touch sensitivity on the on-screen buttons at the lower portion of the phone seem to be not so great, other than that and the signal issues everything else is excellent..

I'm very happy with my 8GB
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Like you, I previously owned a at&t htc one x as well. I ordered my nexus 4 on the 13th and have been using it for a couple of weeks now. Since then, I have sold my htc one x.
to be completely honest, i have to say i liked the camera and screen combination of the htc one x better. Colors on the htc one x were brilliant and vivid, while the nexus 4 screen seemed to look dull. this is all personal preference, but i prefer the 'over-saturated' look.
speed on the nexus 4 is a lot faster compared to sense, but when i had cm10 on my htc one x it wasnt a slouch either.
in terms of aesthetics, they are both beautiful in their own ways. i quite liked the htc's design, but i agree on the lack of support, with the nexus you are guaranteed at least a couple of updates, (just look at the nexus s, got 4.1)
here's my advice to you: as nice as the nexus 4 is, if there is nothing wrong with you htc one x, dont upgrade. If you want jellybean 4.2 and dont want to wait for the update, root your HOX and put cm10 on it.
I was able to sell my HOX for $260 and my nexus 4 was $340 after taxes/shipping.

I for one am very happy with my Gnex4...Ive had every phone that came out this year...just sold my note 2 which was a pure beast if I must say but this nexus have a more snappier feeling as far as speed and etc...plus development is going crazy for this phone which is a big +....but overall this is the best phone on the market hands down...with the note 2 very close behind...

Anyone jump from the AT&T LGOG to the N4?

If so, thoughts and opinions? I've had the LGOG since the 5th of November, and I'm seriously considering selling and grabbing the N4...
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Just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on the LGOG?
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.

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Just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on the LGOG?
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
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This requires more of an depth response than I currently have time for, I'll post again later tonight. Very quickly, I really like the LGOG, but I just have some niggles that are killing me, and most of them I *think* would be solved on the N4.
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I haven't tried the LGOG but they are essentially the same internal components except the LGOG has what I hear is a pretty mediocre 13 megapixel camera. I don't like the LGOG design because it's more square-ish and the rounded look of the Nexus 4 is much better but that is a matter of taste. Stock JB could solve some of your problems if they are software related, from what I hear Motorola's and LG's android skins are not very good.

Havent had the Otimus G but it looks like a very very good phone...But if you switch to the N4 you wont regret it...Development is gonna go crazy for this phone...theres so many Devs that I know that are coming to this phone who are just waiting to get one...this N4 forum is already great with very helpful people and its only gonna get better so if you looking to tweak and rom out...this is the spot...believe me!!!

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I haven't tried the LGOG but they are essentially the same internal components except the LGOG has what I hear is a pretty mediocre 13 megapixel camera. I don't like the LGOG design because it's more square-ish and the rounded look of the Nexus 4 is much better but that is a matter of taste. Stock JB could solve some of your problems if they are software related, from what I hear Motorola's and LG's android skins are not very good.
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AT&T LGOG has the 8MP cam, as well as an SD slot, and LTE. I thought the AT&T LGOG looked better than the N4, but I haven't held an N4. LG's Android skin is okay. Not as intrusive as Sense, but not as silly as Touchwiz. I never use the stock launcher on a phone, so with the LG you can't notice it much.
I don't have LTE around here, so that's not an issue. Performance wise the AT&T LGOG is superb for the most part. Even with ICS. Its the smoothest/fastest Android device I've used. (I've used a TON, all the big players except the new DNA)
HUGE deal breaker for me is the notification LED on the AT&T LGOG. Its a small ring around the power button. Can't see it. Ever. Also its not multi-colored. Then you put a case on it, even the Belkin bumper, and its completely covered up. Gone.
My WiFi performance is horrible. The range seems very short, and it never wants to automatically connect. Not just my home network, but several others. Then when I manually try to do something, it usually gets stuck in a half off/half on state, and I have to reboot. This could be a software issue that could very easily get fixed in the future.
A lot of us are having insane battery issues. Myself, if I'm SUPER lucky, I get 10hrs. Android OS is always at the top, by far. The screen isn't ever at the top no matter how much you use it. Some are saying its a 3G fast dormancy issue. I've got LTE disabled. I'm also running a no bloat ROM, with a kernel that's under-volted. Again, software issues that are probably going to be fixed eventually.
Which brings me to my last issue. Dev support. The bootloader is unlocked, and that's awesome. If you look in the dev section, we have ONE rom. If you look in the Original dev section, we have ONE kernel. I have no idea if the AT&T version is going to take off or not, but its off to the slowest start I've ever seen on a new device of this caliber. Also I'm missing JB. I'm really REALLY missing AOKP. Some of the best times I ever had on an Android device was my GNex w/AOKP.
So this is where I'm at. Give up a better looking phone (yes yes, debatable) LTE, (which I don't have anyway) and the SD slot, to gain a MUCH better notification LED, JB 4.2, WAY WAY more dev support, and obviously faster updates. (I've had Nexus phones before, hell I still have an N1)
Thoughts?

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AT&T LGOG has the 8MP cam, as well as an SD slot, and LTE. I thought the AT&T LGOG looked better than the N4, but I haven't held an N4. LG's Android skin is okay. Not as intrusive as Sense, but not as silly as Touchwiz. I never use the stock launcher on a phone, so with the LG you can't notice it much.
I don't have LTE around here, so that's not an issue. Performance wise the AT&T LGOG is superb for the most part. Even with ICS. Its the smoothest/fastest Android device I've used. (I've used a TON, all the big players except the new DNA)
HUGE deal breaker for me is the notification LED on the AT&T LGOG. Its a small ring around the power button. Can't see it. Ever. Also its not multi-colored. Then you put a case on it, even the Belkin bumper, and its completely covered up. Gone.
My WiFi performance is horrible. The range seems very short, and it never wants to automatically connect. Not just my home network, but several others. Then when I manually try to do something, it usually gets stuck in a half off/half on state, and I have to reboot. This could be a software issue that could very easily get fixed in the future.
A lot of us are having insane battery issues. Myself, if I'm SUPER lucky, I get 10hrs. Android OS is always at the top, by far. The screen isn't ever at the top no matter how much you use it. Some are saying its a 3G fast dormancy issue. I've got LTE disabled. I'm also running a no bloat ROM, with a kernel that's under-volted. Again, software issues that are probably going to be fixed eventually.
Which brings me to my last issue. Dev support. The bootloader is unlocked, and that's awesome. If you look in the dev section, we have ONE rom. If you look in the Original dev section, we have ONE kernel. I have no idea if the AT&T version is going to take off or not, but its off to the slowest start I've ever seen on a new device of this caliber. Also I'm missing JB. I'm really REALLY missing AOKP. Some of the best times I ever had on an Android device was my GNex w/AOKP.
So this is where I'm at. Give up a better looking phone (yes yes, debatable) LTE, (which I don't have anyway) and the SD slot, to gain a MUCH better notification LED, JB 4.2, WAY WAY more dev support, and obviously faster updates. (I've had Nexus phones before, hell I still have an N1)
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Very good post Boosted...so are you considering switching since you love AOKP???...we got it here and I read that is pretty good...Im running PA7 with is awesome...very smooth and stable...

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Very good post Boosted...so are you considering switching since you love AOKP???...we got it here and I read that is pretty good...Im running PA7 with is awesome...very smooth and stable...
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I haven't had a chance to go over the N4 forum much yet, I just got this wild hair up my ass today. Let me throw up some screenshots of some benches.... see what you think.

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very good scores...seems like the same as the N4...their pretty much the same phone or very close...I guess your comfortable with the phone the scrores shows its a keeper or If you wanna go flash crazy...come join us over here lol...

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So this is where I'm at. Give up a better looking phone (yes yes, debatable) LTE, (which I don't have anyway) and the SD slot, to gain a MUCH better notification LED, JB 4.2, WAY WAY more dev support, and obviously faster updates. (I've had Nexus phones before, hell I still have an N1)
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Design is a matter of taste, agree there.
I gave up LTE. I had 15-20 Mbps and now I have 3-7 Mbps. I only notice the difference when I try to download big files. I can barely notice the difference when I watch HD videos. My brother has a Nexus 4 on T-mobile and he averages 15-20 Mbps. I am in San Diego BTW.
I got the 8GB version and I don't need more than that. I carry an iPhone 3G as a PMP and I just got a $50 HTC One V that I am switching to. I am trying to move my Music and Videos to the cloud but the slower data is a little bump in the road.
I think LG HAD to make a top of the line phone for AT&T so they came out with the LGOG but knew that it wasn't going to sell too well. I still haven't seen an add for one. I am pretty sure that the average consumer does not go into the store with the knowledge of the LGOG even existing.
The Nexus 4 is probably going to be one of the top 3 phones with dev support, probably only behind the GS3. Since the LGOG from AT&T doesn't even seem to be the same version from other GSM version you can bet there's going to be a VERY small dev support.

They are identical hardware, sans LTE. But in the very beginning the N4 was having throttling issues and low benches for all the reviewers. Not that benches mean anything for real word usage. How's it feel?
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They are identical hardware, sans LTE. But in the very beginning the N4 was having throttling issues and low benches for all the reviewers. Not that benches mean anything for real word usage. How's it feel?
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Someone said that benches were probably not optimized for the hardware and 4.2, haven't tried myself or seen any new benches.
I like it. The device feels solid. I never owned a Gnex but it felt plasticy just like most Samsung device including my old Note. I am really not concerned about the glass but I take REALLY good care of all my devices. I like the design. I always put a case on my phones but I like this design too much to cover it up so I just got screen protectors for the front and back. I hear people saying it scratches if you put it on a counter but then again doesn't all glass scratch? The software is fast, smooth, snappy, etc... It's stock, it's great. I haven't even found a reason to install a different ROM.

Device feels very great...super fast...no lag at all...Im very happy I decided to go for the N4...I have no complaints at all...

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Design is a matter of taste, agree there.
I gave up LTE. I had 15-20 Mbps and now I have 3-7 Mbps. I only notice the difference when I try to download big files. I can barely notice the difference when I watch HD videos. My brother has a Nexus 4 on T-mobile and he averages 15-20 Mbps. I am in San Diego BTW.
I got the 8GB version and I don't need more than that. I carry an iPhone 3G as a PMP and I just got a $50 HTC One V that I am switching to. I am trying to move my Music and Videos to the cloud but the slower data is a little bump in the road.
I think LG HAD to make a top of the line phone for AT&T so they came out with the LGOG but knew that it wasn't going to sell too well. I still haven't seen an add for one. I am pretty sure that the average consumer does not go into the store with the knowledge of the LGOG even existing.
The Nexus 4 is probably going to be one of the top 3 phones with dev support, probably only behind the GS3. Since the LGOG from AT&T doesn't even seem to be the same version from other GSM version you can bet there's going to be a VERY small dev support.
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I'm gettting about 6mbps down with the LGOG. As long as the N4 gets close to that, I'm fine. I'm on WiFi most of the day.
You haven't seen the commercial with the guy making the action scene in a movie w/the AT&T LGOG? I've seen it several times. But, NO one around me knows about the LGOG, the SGSIII is the big one right now. ( I had the international version on launch day, great phone) I get asked all the time "why did you get of your SGSIII???" as they look at me like a befuddled puppy.
I would think the N4 should be THE top dev phone, its a Nexus after all? (phone for devs) The GNex dev section was nuts.
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Someone said that benches were probably not optimized for the hardware and 4.2, haven't tried myself or seen any new benches.
I like it. The device feels solid. I never owned a Gnex but it felt plasticy just like most Samsung device including my old Note. I am really not concerned about the glass but I take REALLY good care of all my devices. I like the design. I always put a case on my phones but I like this design too much to cover it up so I just got screen protectors for the front and back. I hear people saying it scratches if you put it on a counter but then again doesn't all glass scratch? The software is fast, smooth, snappy, etc... It's stock, it's great. I haven't even found a reason to install a different ROM.
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Yeah, I stopped using cases awhile back, and started using Ghost Armor. But with this phone I didn't wanna cover it up, so it got nothing. Then I found the Belkin bumper case, and tried that. Not bad, but I wouldn't do it again. Personally I like the glass. Gives it a spiffier, heavier feel. But then again I liked the thin light feel of the SGS2, Gnex, and SGS3. I'm not real picky about style/feel. Although I can't stand HTC's layout. The power button on top makes me want to throw the phone. (I did like the One X though, other than the power button and Sense)
I am however a flash/customization-aholic. I was really banking on the AT&T LGOG dev support taking off more than it has.
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I'm gettting about 6mbps down with the LGOG. As long as the N4 gets close to that, I'm fine. I'm on WiFi most of the day.
You haven't seen the commercial with the guy making the action scene in a movie w/the AT&T LGOG? I've seen it several times. But, NO one around me knows about the LGOG, the SGSIII is the big one right now. ( I had the international version on launch day, great phone) I get asked all the time "why did you get of your SGSIII???" as they look at me like a befuddled puppy.
I would think the N4 should be THE top dev phone, its a Nexus after all? (phone for devs) The GNex dev section was nuts.
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I am a big smart phone fan in general but even I didn't know about the LGOG until people started saying that the Nexus 4 was going to be pretty much the same thing as the LGOG. Maybe I did hear about it but I didn't care, I wasn't too happy when I heard LG was making the next Nexus device. LG is just not too good at marketing their products and making customers even consider getting an LG product. If you don't get LTE in your area then I think the Nexus 4 is a no brainer. You may even get faster speeds on HSPA+, some people get about 10-15 Mbps on their Nexus 4. I am in an LTE market so I am screwed, AT&T is not going to develop their HSPA+ network anymore here.

Yeah I'm leaning towards getting the N4. I wish someone who's had both could post. The LED and JB w/dev support alone is enough to convert me. LTE is useless, and I will slightly miss the SD slot.
Any WiFi or battery issues?
I see you can actually order one now, but its 6-7 weeks out!! It will be old news by then!

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from what I hear Motorola's and LG's android skins are not very good.
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This is outdated. Starting with the Optimistic G, LG's skin is now in "Not Awful, But Bulky" territory, and Motorola's skin is actually quite good (starting with the Atrix HD and other ICS-based devices), and provides some genuine functional improvement on AOSP without any real downsides.

[Q] Nexus 4 - Am I making a mistake?

I am an avid fan of the Samsung S series of phones. I've had a few and to date think the S3 is the best they've done so far (S4 notwithstanding). But, I love the Google Nexus series of phones and have owned one, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. I purchased the Nexus 4 on Saturday from Google and I cannot wait to get it. I love the bareness of the Nexus line. I love Android in its stock form. Thing is, I'm going from one of the best selling phones to a midlevel device. Am I making a mistake doing this? What am I loosing? Currently, we do have LTE in our area but it's sucking the heck out of my battery on the S3 so I'm not concerned if the N4 has no LTE. Am I gaining anything from going to the N4? Is the camera good enough? What about the sound on it - it sucked moose butt on the SGN!
I'm hoping for some comments and opinions that will help me in evaluating this latest purchase and what to expect. Thanks guys:good:

Mid-level? You do realize a quad core chip and 2gb of ram make this a high-level device as for lte I personally don't use it and camera is better then the galaxy nexus but isn't the best obviously for the price speakers do fine as well
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Wait until the 15th this month, there is a revised Nexus 4 to be released that should support full LTE, 32 GB of storage and maybe other upgrades. For the current one i`am very happy with it, the camera is a bit less than in the S3, but the cpu and gpu are much better. The screen is fantastic, bright, crisp and a good vieuwing angles. For me it is an upgrade compared to the S3 or even the S4 (wich i`am gona skip for sure). The N4 has no bloatware and great development. And for a very good price.
BTW the N4 is not mid level

Crap...I shoulda waited. I forgot about the LTE version coming out! Oh wells...it's already paid for. Has LG stepped it up on the Nexus line? I've never been a fan of them but in my opinion, Google wouldn't brand their phone if it wasn't any good. As good as the S3 is, it feels slow opening stuff sometimes even with a fresh factory refresh. It's got some good internals so it makes no sense why it does this...this always bugged me. It wasn't a deal breaker as the camera on this phone is sick! Great picture quality on it.

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Crap...I shoulda waited. I forgot about the LTE version coming out! Oh wells...it's already paid for. Has LG stepped it up on the Nexus line? I've never been a fan of them but in my opinion, Google wouldn't brand their phone if it wasn't any good. As good as the S3 is, it feels slow opening stuff sometimes even with a fresh factory refresh. It's got some good internals so it makes no sense why it does this...this always bugged me. It wasn't a deal breaker as the camera on this phone is sick! Great picture quality on it.
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The internal storage of the Galaxy S4 is 16GB and 7GB is for the OS and lots and lots of gimmicks/bloatware/crap. 9GB available for the user We on the N4 have about 13GB left.

I don't think branding the N4 as a mid level device is correct or at least in my opinion. Perhaps it's the price tag that makes it "mid level" or whatever the reason is, the Nexus 4 is more of a high end device for cheap.
I bought a brand new GS3 from a friend a few weeks ago and I don't like it anymore. It was a good idea I didn't get it last year when it came out. I'm gonna sell it...
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Yeah, the N4 is a high-end phone for a mid-range price. Absolute bargain.
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Its odd the “mid range" stigma that's put on the N4 by average consumer, even here at xda. I've seen hundreds of post from various forums or sites in the comments with people calling it that and ironically they are Galaxy users who usually say things like this poster also did about the UI being sluggish while confidently calling the S a high end device lol. OP glad you got the N4, you'll be more than satisfied I believe, you'll read a bunch of complaints on here, but like absolutely any other phone available if you read enough threads on here people will have funky devices or just nit picky problems. UI is awesome, storage is pretty sufficient, OS barely uses any space, I have probably 1000 pics, 30 albums and maybe 50 apps including CSR Racing which is large and have about 4.5gigs free. Lacking LTE maybe an issue for some, but honestly I think it becomes a feature option issue for most, the inability to claim LTE rights amongst other phone users lol, I'm on T-Mobile and live in Philadelphia, my data is always fast, in most real world scenarios as fast as my boys DNA, and as fast as my brother in laws S3 on AT&T. Camera is another issue for some, not for others, look on the pic from n4 thread, when you work at it, the phone is capable of taking some amazing shots, on the fly pull your phone out and snap can be hit or miss but why some people expect or even need their phone to be art gallery worthy pics I don't know lol. Speaker, is well a speaker, I can hear when I need to, but all this talk of the HTC having "boom" sound and dual speakers for what? If I wanna host a mini rave with my phone? Lol I just don't see the real world use for it. Summing it up, everyone that has touched my N4 since I got it, users of iPhone, S phones and even my cousin who still won't let BlackBerry die has loved this phone after spending as little as 10 minutes with it. Feels great in the hand, UI is always snappy, screen is crisp.
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Great replies everyone...thank you. I've read a lot of reviews and such and most of them calls the N4 a midrange phone. In my opinion, they do it based on the price and public (uninformed) preception. I used the same phrase here based on these although loving stock android like I do, I'd be calling it high end. The Camera for me is a nice addition because working as a tech for UPS, I travel around some and get to see the sights along the way. In doing so, it's nice to have a quality camera onhand to take some pictures of where I've been. I don't always take a "camera" as I travel light so having a quality one with me is very handy, which is why I ask what the quality is on the N4. I've read a lot on XDA and seen some pics and it is hit and miss from what I see but a definate upgrage from the SGN.
I've read a lot about the back breaking/cracking. I'm thinking it's a good idea to get a sheild for the back at least. I've never been a fan of putting one on the front as I like the smooth feeling while sliding/swyping.

can6rxw said:
Great replies everyone...thank you. I've read a lot of reviews and such and most of them calls the N4 a midrange phone. In my opinion, they do it based on the price and public (uninformed) preception. I used the same phrase here based on these although loving stock android like I do, I'd be calling it high end. The Camera for me is a nice addition because working as a tech for UPS, I travel around some and get to see the sights along the way. In doing so, it's nice to have a quality camera onhand to take some pictures of where I've been. I don't always take a "camera" as I travel light so having a quality one with me is very handy, which is why I ask what the quality is on the N4. I've read a lot on XDA and seen some pics and it is hit and miss from what I see but a definate upgrage from the SGN.
I've read a lot about the back breaking/cracking. I'm thinking it's a good idea to get a sheild for the back at least. I've never been a fan of putting one on the front as I like the smooth feeling while sliding/swyping.
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I'd agree with putting on a back glass protector. If anything the Nexus is a more high-end phone than the S3 tbh, the S4 Pro trumps the Exynos; 2GB RAM > 1, the screen is at a higher resolution and the build feels more premium than the S3. The only reason it's sometimes called a mid range phone is because of the price. There also seems to be a lot of hate for it on the internet though, which is odd because everyone I know who has one likes it. I think that it's only because loads of people wanted one but had huge delays when ordering it.

A case will provide more protection than a back protector.
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Slim but tough is what I'd want in a case. Know which is best?

scream4cheese said:
A case will provide more protection than a back protector.
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True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.

can6rxw said:
True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.
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Then take the Rearth Ringke Fusion Case. Have it myself and i think its great. Not bulky, good grip and protection and clear back.

gee2012 said:
Then take the Rearth Ringke Fusion Case. Have it myself and i think its great. Not bulky, good grip and protection and clear back.
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I have that case. As a matter of fact I have so many cases for this phone that I only use my diztronic case. Lol.

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I have that case. As a matter of fact I have so many cases for this phone that I only use my diztronic case. Lol.
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There`s not much choice in cases for the N4 in the Netherlands and ordered it in the UK. Do you have the XDA case also?

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There`s not much choice in cases for the N4 in the Netherlands and ordered it in the UK. Do you have the XDA case also?
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I don't have the XDA case. I don't like the color and design.
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True, but I want the back exposed for a little bit.
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If you want the rearth ringke fusion case I can give it to you for free if you live in the U.S. I don't need it. It's just sitting in my desk drawer not being used.
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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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The S4 is 850-900 USD in the Netherlands off contract

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Just because a gs3/4 is over $500 doesn't make it a high end device, calling the nexus 4 a mid range device is ignorance, and yes the nexus 4 beats both
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Well either way the S3/S4 are high-end devices. I doubt the Nexus 4 beats the both devices. The S4 has a newer CPU and it's software features are awesome in my opinion.
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