Nexus 4, Buy Now? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I have been waiting for Google IO to see if there are any updates for the phone itself or a new phone but it seems more and more there won't be anything big, or it may just be an LTE version. I have no need for LTE at this present time.
There is a good deal today on ebay for a Nexus 4 for international shipping and I want to know whether I should go for it or rather wait till after I/O?
Opinions?

Just get it now , its a good phone and it will last you , at least that's how I feel about my nexus . also if the deal is that good , then yeah get it , make sure the imei is clean and there is no problems , have fun ! :thumbup:
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Wait, seriously. If something awesome is released, you'll be kicking yourself in the butt for not being patient
I could easily see a battery upgrade which is the Achilles heel for this phone.

This has always been a problem with phones: not daring to buy a new one because something else, something possibly better, may be coming up. But trust me: the Nexus 4 is a great phone with great specs and still has updates to come for ages. And about the battery life: with the right mods you'll get through 1,5 day.
You won't be disappointed and if you keep on looking towards newer models, then you'll never get yourself a new one.
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it will be a long while before the nexus 4 feels outdated, it is still top end spec for crying out loud.

No and here's why:
Battery performance is lackluster compared to other devices, 3G/HSPA WILL murder even on stanby
New Nexus is obviously close and may have better storage
Camera is mediocre
The SoC has wakelock issues from the USB modem and certain sleep states are broken
No 4K support(may want?)
Development will slow down significantly after next nexus or new Moto X
Lack of stock LTE support
Call quality is terrible even if you manually use AMR
Thermal throttle is difficult to avoid, thing can heat up in basic apps

Ace42 said:
No and here's why:
Battery performance is lackluster compared to other devices, 3G/HSPA WILL murder even on stanby
New Nexus is obviously close and may have better storage
Camera is mediocre
The SoC has wakelock issues from the USB modem and certain sleep states are broken
No 4K support(may want?)
Development will slow down significantly after next nexus or new Moto X
Lack of stock LTE support
Call quality is terrible even if you manually use AMR
Thermal throttle is difficult to avoid, thing can heat up in basic apps
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I do not agree with this person. Even when I have everything going and a ton of apps sinking in the back ground I get 8 to 12 hours use with around 3.5 hours screen on time with the screen at fifty percent. I have no issues with phone getting hot unless I am using the camera led as a notification tool in lite flow. If I do the normal things like uninstall apps I don't use and sign out of the other apps I get 20 hours easy and about 4 hours screen on time. My normal is 30 hours and 3 hours screen on time
There is little out there that out specs this phone. And being this a clean version of android and doesn't have touch wiz or HTC sense on it my phone seems to blow away even the s4.
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Ace42 said:
No and here's why:
Battery performance is lackluster compared to other devices, 3G/HSPA WILL murder even on stanby
New Nexus is obviously close and may have better storage
Camera is mediocre
The SoC has wakelock issues from the USB modem and certain sleep states are broken
No 4K support(may want?)
Development will slow down significantly after next nexus or new Moto X
Lack of stock LTE support
Call quality is terrible even if you manually use AMR
Thermal throttle is difficult to avoid, thing can heat up in basic apps
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Battery life is as always ...subjective
Google is promoting his cloud storage policy , I agree with it and this is the future ...
Camera isn't mediocre , is average ...
lack of ... LTE support for a phone which doesn't support it ...
Call quality is is good , not terrible , better then what I've used before ( HTC touch pro , wildfire , HTC HD 2 , s2 and s3 )
Thermal throttle ... Is present on hard apps and games which doesn't work properly on other devices , on basic apps is normal
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Your post is exaggerated .
The coefficient price/performance is one of the strongest and unbeatable reasons to get this phone
sent from my Darkside of Nexus 4

There's nothing better out there in terms of Android software support. Even if you sell it a few months down the road, you'll still get a good price for it since it is a Nexus and it will hold it's value.

This phone is future proofed. Go for it.
-Sent from Marino's Nexus 4-

Get it while it's still the hottest device around!

galaxys said:
Get it while it's still the hottest device around!
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I don't think it's the hottest device around anymore. HTC and s4 are the hottest devices at the moment in my opinion.
Op if you want it! Get it. We're not here to convince you otherwise because we haven't experienced the other phones. Do your own research and don't get a phone because a community said to get it. All replies to this thread will be biased
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yes OP! Go try the other phones first, BUT if you want the smoothest phone around with No bloatware, the greatest specs all around with a price no one can beat, you might as well ! Some people say the hype about HTC one is almost at end Aside from the aluminium casing and the specs, nothing else would be exciting.

jonapunk said:
I do not agree with this person. Even when I have everything going and a ton of apps sinking in the back ground I get 8 to 12 hours use with around 3.5 hours screen on time with the screen at fifty percent. I have no issues with phone getting hot unless I am using the camera led as a notification tool in lite flow. If I do the normal things like uninstall apps I don't use and sign out of the other apps I get 20 hours easy and about 4 hours screen on time. My normal is 30 hours and 3 hours screen on time
There is little out there that out specs this phone. And being this a clean version of android and doesn't have touch wiz or HTC sense on it my phone seems to blow away even the s4.
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I said the battery was bad relative to other devices, for instance the S3 gets at least 4. And temperature concerns have been mentioned by many others besides myself even on xda, it is not limited to myself.
xanthrax said:
Battery life is as always ...subjective
Google is promoting his cloud storage policy , I agree with it and this is the future ...
This only works if you have fast speeds such as LTE or higher, and unlimited data.
Camera isn't mediocre , is average ...
lack of ... LTE support for a phone which doesn't support it ...
I said the device has no supported LTE, nothing is wrong with that statement. It would make sense for them to support a modern medium
Call quality is is good , not terrible , better then what I've used before ( HTC touch pro , wildfire , HTC HD 2 , s2 and s3 )
I just found it lacking compared to my Sensation, people always complain they can't hear me.
Thermal throttle ... Is present on hard apps and games which doesn't work properly on other devices , on basic apps is normal
What does the device's temperature have to do app compatibility?
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Your post is exaggerated .
The coefficient price/performance is one of the strongest and unbeatable reasons to get this phone
But if an even better device was to be announced the OP would be kicking himself like someone else said. I find the S4 Pro to be a double edged sword, you get A15 like performance but there are actual design issues that Faux has mentioned such as the wakelock for the usb and the sleep states.
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I can't believe you guys are advocating to not wait 10 days just in case. We don't know for sure whether a nexus 5 will be released. I'm not saying anyone should wait 6 months. Anyone should be hesitant to buy a smartphone that's 6 months old

IMO it is very unlikely that we'll see a Nexus 5 in some days, a new version of the Nexus 4 seems much more likely to me. Either way I would wait these 10 days until I/O. But keep in mind that what we will see at I/O will not be available in the stores right away...

bob13bob said:
I can't believe you guys are advocating to not wait 10 days just in case. We don't know for sure whether a nexus 5 will be released. I'm not saying anyone should wait 6 months. Anyone should be hesitant to buy a smartphone that's 6 months old
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Nexus 5 will come later this year, not at Google io
Google always releases Nexus phones q4 of the year
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Thanks for the input guys. Note that I am definitely only going for the Nexus purely because of the price, it's way cheaper than anything else close in aesthetics and performance.
Just wanted to know whether to wait to see if maybe there is an improvement at I/O, which I think I will do.

OK Acer ... I would advice the OP to ignore my post due to " lack of stock English support " ...
sent from my Darkside of Nexus 4

zephiK said:
I don't think it's the hottest device around anymore. HTC and s4 are the hottest devices at the moment in my opinion.
Op if you want it! Get it. We're not here to convince you otherwise because we haven't experienced the other phones. Do your own research and don't get a phone because a community said to get it. All replies to this thread will be biased
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If you want to deal with Touchwiz, Sense or broken AOSP ROMs then sure, the S4 and One are hot devices.

Related

I have a HTC onex convince me to switch to a GS3

On launch day i when out and brought my self a One X and for the first few weeks i loved it but as time went on there became more and more that anoyed me about the phone for example the lack of S-OFF, terable battery life and the fact that is completly refuses to get along well with my network "three uk".
Should i switch from the ONE X to a GS3?
and if so what are the reasons behind it?
will the GS3 help to amend any of the issues i have with the ONE X?
Thanks guys
Plz don't be convinced to get a s3! U should be loving the no sd card and non removable battery
☞★Swyped from drajax's Galaxy S3!!! *♂ツ
Hit thanz if I helped!
" Tomorrow .... its a brand new Today "
Here's a great site with everything you need to know http://tinyurl.com/c8mmd3t
By the way, the note 2 is better if you can handle the extra half inch
Switch to note2 not s3
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what worrys me about switching to the note 2 is that it has a serious lack of development
i am a huge AOSP fan but i know that if they get aosp up and running on the note that all of the S-pen feautes wont work and and so that will deem that part of the phone useless :/
i have also read that becasue of a recent fall out between cyanogen mod and samsung that cyanogen wont be suporting the note 2 as a official device which will make AOSP development slow :/
irish-sid said:
Here's a great site with everything you need to know http://tinyurl.com/c8mmd3t
By the way, the note 2 is better if you can handle the extra half inch
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i have tryed that but all google is going to tell me is how these two phones compare out of the box when they were first released. since then there has been a huge amount of development on these phones thus rendering any review or comparison usless for what i am looking for :/
Explain to me, as if I am very dumb...what's the point on that switch? Both mobile phones are pretty much the same, one is better here the other there. But it's just my opinion. As far as ROM goes, I would be running CM anyway or AOKP or PA and the sorts...so on that point they would be exactly the same.
What I'm saying here is that people worry too much for things like 30mins extra battery and the sorts. My device has one of the worst batteries ever (Galaxy Ace) and still does it's job. With that said...I'd kill for a HTC OneX and I'd buy the HTC over the S3 any day. And let's get real here...There's this thing called Nexus 4 coming soon...I'd buy that XD
the point is the ONE x has so many problems on 3uk its not even funny :/
if im conected to H and for example i go into a building with a lead roof and i loose signal then when i exit the build the phone wont reconect to the network atall it just refuses and even if it does then it will only let me get a GSM signal and im lucky if i get that. i have to force a conection by searching for the networks and then it will recconect. i am not the only one with thus issue as it is comon with 3uk ONE x users and after half a year of doing this i cant be bothered with it anymore :/
Damsung promised to give drivers for Exynos 4 so there will be huge development from devs on xda starting from next year.
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You said you were a AOSP lover? Aren't those issues caused by AOSP rom? In Portugal CM7 and MMS receiving is broken for example I need to reboot phone, turn data off and back on and then send myself a MMS to force the phone to receive the one someone sent me lol
And from what I recall, from 7 years ago, when I lived in the UK the 3 network sucked bad on pretty much every phone but I guess it would be better by now.
(Just noticed, I'm defending you to keep a HTC over a Samsung phone and I have 3 devices all of them Samsung, just check my sig lololol)
Stilm said:
Explain to me, as if I am very dumb...what's the point on that switch? Both mobile phones are pretty much the same, one is better here the other there. But it's just my opinion. As far as ROM goes, I would be running CM anyway or AOKP or PA and the sorts...so on that point they would be exactly the same.
What I'm saying here is that people worry too much for things like 30mins extra battery and the sorts. My device has one of the worst batteries ever (Galaxy Ace) and still does it's job. With that said...I'd kill for a HTC OneX and I'd buy the HTC over the S3 any day. And let's get real here...There's this thing called Nexus 4 coming soon...I'd buy that XD
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+1. A friend of mine has a HOX and every time I see it I'm jealous of how beatuful and well made it looks. It also has the best sceen available on a phone right now (htc butterfly doesnt count as it is Japan exclusive) and sense looks better than TW. My GS3 is faster (both are on custom Roms, stock kernels and both are blazing fast but the GS3 is faster and smoother ), TW has more features than Sense, camera and speakers are better, micro SD and removable battery, much better battery life and the Bootloader is unlocked (maybe the most important part for me). Both phones are excelent and I wouldn't switch from one to the other ( even if I had the HOX ). If you have to leave the HOX for something else I would suggest the Note II for its great features, the Nexus 4 if you want stock Android or wait for the international version of the HTC Butterfly.
Faster Exynos 4 processor, Bigger screen, Believe it or not but the S3 feels lighter... And if your not a flash addict Touchwiz is better than Sense.
Plus Exynos 4 documentation coming soon, even tho the Tegra already had that but development here is about to get a whole lot better.
Expandable memory, removable and bigger battery, bigger screen.
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nope i have had these probems with my network from day one even with sence
I switched from HOX to SGS3 a month ago and I didn't regret even for a second. GS3 is a way better for me.
I have a friend that has an HTC One X and i can't understand the "beautiful" compliments, it is nice looking but nothing really "awesome" about it, the edges are rough, the screen is slightly smaller, (I hate LCD's, love punchy colors of Amoled displays and true blacks), Sense is fine but i (personally) like touchwiz a little better, No SD Card (LOL @ HTC, why.. seriously.. why?) and no removable battery.. (Batteries die, yep they lose their hold after a few months / year, and you can't replace it on a One X, you can't even do a quick swap for a backup battery).
All this got me to the conclusion of getting an S3 instead, now got a Note 2, an S3 and soon a Nexus 10 (tablet).
Nike: Just do it!
READY...?
Canadian Rogers Version i7747m is what I have.
I wanted the HOX bad. Loved the look. LCD whites are WHITE. Form factor and unibody are great especially if you plan to NOT use a case. Yet the S3 won 51% to 49%.
But having owned this i747m for 3 months now, stock rom, rooted, some framework mods for extra features and cosmetics....I am absolutely floored. (minus a few super minor non issues)
- 32gb +32gb = 64gb storage
- removable battery
- light and thin...so getting a case is not a bulk builder. With case it's still lighter than my old trusty HD2
- 2gb ram with up to 50 background apps in memory (Ask Zeppelinrocks Dev about this....it's a NEW record for a stock device) Wicked Multitasking as we say it.
- Fast, great standby drain, no SOD or Hot Reboots etc.
- Touchwiz....MEH...tried it for a week and ditched that ui for Go Launcher EX which has infinitely better and more custom options.
- Replaced some stock apps with IMO...superior apps (Handcent, Kaiten Mail, PowerAmp)
- my Super Amolded screen shows whites as very close to white and looks incredible playing games or watching movies.
- LED notification is fat and not too bright. It's a warm light and multi colored....and WORKS.
- camera and camcorder are great. Just took a video tonight of some backyard ground fireworks and it came out great...sound and all. Camera is very fast, burst shots...powerful flash etc. Some issues with low light conditions.
- LTE...for us here...is smoking fast data speeds even on 1 bar signal.
- usb can also output analogue and digital audio.
- physical home button. I learned that I prefer this especially to turn the screen on. It's most natural.
- development is aggressive...especially European models. I don't care much about this anymore...since for the first time since froyo, I have a near 100% working device without issues. I can't believe it. I am a stickler for details.
If I was living in Europe, I would get the i9305. I would not even think about getting a device with less than 2gb ram. I could write a book on it.
Like DeadSOL says, and Nike....and ..even Ben Stiller....Juz Doooow eet !!!
If you're an AOSP lover you should stick with a nexus 4 but, keep in mind that the on screen buttons will take up some of the screen real estate.
Oh by the way I have both the one X and the s3 and if you do make the switch you'll be dissapointed by its cheap plasticy feel but you'll be amazed by its battery life.
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[Q] best phone currently for T-mobile

So I bit early last week on a N4 16gb when they first went available again, and since then it seems like the people who are receiving the last batch of the initial stock are posting reviews and Impressions of the device and aren't totally smitten. Whether it be rattling, the glass back, overheating, buzzing in earpiece and non-optimization of 4.2 it was scaring me a little.
What i was wondering, was which phones people felt were the best option for T-mobile. The keys i was taking into account were:
•strong processor (min. Dual core)
•decent to big battery
•high res. Screen (and at least 4.3")
•good video/gaming playback
•decent volume (doesn't feel tiny on headphones on high)
•should be semi safe with updates for next 2 years.
I am in the middle of a mobile contract with a Htc Radar 4g, and its just not enough for me and leave me wanting. So am looking for a phone that could potentially survive at least another 2 years. I was thinking of options like the note II, gsIII, HTC one international (w/ non-gba card), gnex. The only thing i will rule out is the iPhone because i have a PC, no offense to iPhone users.
So tell me your opinions and views.....if this thread should be moved elsewhere i allow the moderators to move it otlr let me know and let me know how to move it.
Thanks in advance
I would say note II but then again im on att ^^
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exaybachay01 said:
Whether it be rattling, the glass back, overheating, buzzing in earpiece and non-optimization of 4.2 it was scaring me a little.
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I think you should think about whether you actually care about these things.
Rattling - basically non-existant, you can't even hear it unless you litterally shake your phone right next to your ear repeatedly.
Glass Back - This is user preference
overheating - pretty sure this only occurs during benchmarking?
buzzing in earpiece - I dunno about this
non-optimization of 4.2 - i'm sure all phones are getting 4.2 eventually so this part might not even apply specifically to the Nexus 4.
I've now lived with a 16gb N4 for about five days and I think it's the best phone on Tmo by a country mile.
Like you, I upgraded from an HTC Radar (actually liked that phone quite a bit), but I carefully tested all of the contenders currently available on Tmo and available unlocked. I opted for the N4 from Google Play.
I guess there may be a rattle but I honestly didn't notice it until I read about it (and I'm still not sure I hear it like some hear it). I've been shocked at how fast and buttery smooth Jelly Bean is. It really is awesome.
Hardware feels more elegant than other Android devices I've felt... Screen is beautiful and battery life has been fine for me (lasts a full day of moderate use).
I dunno. Maybe it's still honeymoon but I'm happy with it!
N4 rocks for me on T-Mobile!
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N4 rocks for me on T-Mobile!
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+1 on this, coming from Sprint epic.
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exaybachay01 said:
So I bit early last week on a N4 16gb when they first went available again, and since then it seems like the people who are receiving the last batch of the initial stock are posting reviews and Impressions of the device and aren't totally smitten. Whether it be rattling, the glass back, overheating, buzzing in earpiece and non-optimization of 4.2 it was scaring me a little.
What i was wondering, was which phones people felt were the best option for T-mobile. The keys i was taking into account were:
•strong processor (min. Dual core)
•decent to big battery
•high res. Screen (and at least 4.3")
•good video/gaming playback
•decent volume (doesn't feel tiny on headphones on high)
•should be semi safe with updates for next 2 years.
I am in the middle of a mobile contract with a Htc Radar 4g, and its just not enough for me and leave me wanting. So am looking for a phone that could potentially survive at least another 2 years. I was thinking of options like the note II, gsIII, HTC one international (w/ non-gba card), gnex. The only thing i will rule out is the iPhone because i have a PC, no offense to iPhone users.
So tell me your opinions and views.....if this thread should be moved elsewhere i allow the moderators to move it otlr let me know and let me know how to move it.
Thanks in advance
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I just came from the HTC Radar and the Nexus 4 is an amazing update, not even looking back
I agree with the rest of them. N4 is the best, and I came from an International Galaxy SIII (i9300).
N4 had two updates in the first week I got it. Guess how many OFFICIAL updates my Galaxy SIII has had in 6 months? 1.
N4 by far thanks to Tmo's 3G network, on ATT it is a little less desirable (~3Mbps download is downright average) but I would NEVER consider getting a phablet like the note and I prefer stock android to any skinned version.
I'd rock an N4
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I went from a One S to GSIII to a Nexus 4 and I love it. Not regretting the purchase at all and I will have this for the next 2 years no question.
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The n4 is all of those things you are asking for.
To address your gripes:
Rattling: it's the auto focus mechanism. Many phones do this, is meant to happen. You probably won't notice it unless you are looking for it.
Buzzing: I've heard about this, my phone doesn't have the issue.
Glass back: personal preference
Overheating: I have been playing games, no heat issues to report.
The only thing that has been happening, which was also happening on my GNex with 4.2 is a rare soft boot crash. The X pops up out of nowhere. I would imagine an ota will fix it.
Glad to get home from work (posted this while on break) and to see that there have been several replies, and without any infighting at that. Good for this thread, pat yourselves on the back ladies and gents.
To follow up on a few things, I loved my Radar when I first got it, HTC makes excellent phones, and many people (not super high end phone people) were surprised by how nice the screen was, just dismayed by the side...the unfortunate drifting island that is windows 7.5 is what made me start looking for a replacement. As well as the ability to easily recoup the money that I would spend on an N4.
To those of those that touted how much they liked the N4, have you had any issues at all. I know some touched on not having the same issues that i mentioned. The yellow tinted screen is something else I have seen mentioned. Of those who have the phone how many are from THE 1ST BATCH of sales. Am curious to see if there is a chance that most of the problems were with the 1st batch, or possibly foreign made batches.
It looks like it is going to to be a good match, but still want to hear more and from people who haven't posted.
For those that came from the sIII, note or gnex, what do you like more about the N4 through your use already.....and any suggestion on cases?
Your in the Nexus 4 forum asking about the best phone for tmobile. I wander how this will play out...
The only main issue that you need to debate if you can handle it with the nexus is the buzzing/ crackling noise from earpeice. Some say it's doesn't matter, because they can't hear it, but some phone have it worse then other. I have two nexus 4 here and one is not noticeable, while the other is quite loud. Also Yellowing spot on the phone when it gets warm which happen when you play game or watch a hd movie for a bit. The yellow spot is most likely a hardware issue, it's not the same as a yellow tint which you may also get.
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Your in the Nexus 4 forum asking about the best phone for tmobile. I wander how this will play out...
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I asked here for honest opinions, people who have the N4 and are getting replacements or are having to deal with the issues and stomach it would be open to stating if they love the phone or feel regret.
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The only main issue that you need to debate if you can handle it with the nexus is the buzzing/ crackling noise from earpeice. Some say it's doesn't matter, because they can't hear it, but some phone have it worse then other. I have two nexus 4 here and one is not noticeable, while the other is quite loud. Also Yellowing spot on the phone when it gets warm which happen when you play game or watch a hd movie for a bit. The yellow spot is most likely a hardware issue, it's not the same as a yellow tint which you may also get.
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It seems from reading that you either get the the yellow spots or the yellow tint, if anyone is getting the yellow tint, is it consistent or off and on, and do you think they will call for a recall due to any of these issues?
Note 2 IS THE BEST at the moment in terms of specs
But N4 is still a good choice, more budget friendly AND it may lose in specs on paper, but it has yet to crash and is SILKY SMOOTH.
also not to bash on note 2, but my friend just got it and i had a few minutes to play with it....but after using pure android (came from sg2), note 2 felt VERY bloated and sometimes slow (note this is on stock)
BTW i have no issues with my phone, but other have said that you can always do a rma thru google. and ofc tmobile honors factory defects as well.
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Note 2 IS THE BEST at the moment in terms of specs
But N4 is still a good choice, more budget friendly AND it may lose in specs on paper, but it has yet to crash and is SILKY SMOOTH.
also not to bash on note 2, but my friend just got it and i had a few minutes to play with it....but after using pure android (came from sg2), note 2 felt VERY bloated and sometimes slow (note this is on stock)
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Stat wise? Note 2 is the best? (laughs hard and sharts in pants) Show me where the Note 2 is beating the Nexus 4 in stats. Please do. Screen size doesn't count wither there bud.
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Stat wise? Note 2 is the best? (laughs hard and sharts in pants) Show me where the Note 2 is beating the Nexus 4 in stats. Please do. Screen size doesn't count wither there bud.
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Note 2 has better camera front and back also has a micro sd slot also note 2 has the best battery life.
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Note 2 has better camera front and back also has a micro sd slot also note 2 has the best battery life.
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+1
Also although we(n4) have the same CPUs and GPU as the LG optimus G, when the Optimus G is compared with the note 2 they were basically a even match with the note 2 slightly ahead in some of the benchmarks. Now we know the optimus G is one hell of a phone and we should also too right? But with the currently thermal throttling/overheating, we arent even up to the optimus G level yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSF6zFc6pV0
i know benchmarks dont mean sh1t but same with specs looks good on paper but it doesnt reflect its daily usage.
That's why i said in terms of specs its better. i didnt say that its the best overall.

Nexus 4 or Xperia SP, Please advice

I'm in a dilemma as to which phone to go for. I'd really really appreciate if you'd take a minute to post your opinion. For now, I have decided to go for Nexus 4 or Sony Xperia SP.
Price Difference:Xperia SP is ~40$ cheaper than the Nexus 4 here
The price difference isnt really my concern though, I might as well put in a few extra bucks to get the best phone, if necessary. Ive researched quite and here are some stuff i really need clarifications about the Nexus 4:
What's the battery backup I can get out of Nexus 4[approx of Standby,SOT[browsing],SOT[gaming, say, subway surfers] with custom rom+kernel and stock? [Standby=No Data,Wifi,Bluetooth,GPS]
Is the back glass very prone to shattering? Assume it falls on the ground from waist height, is it sure to crack?
Do you think the Nexus 4 would be outdated in terms of hardware hence i should be waiting for the Nexus 5? Here in India, Nexus 4 launched recently so I'm assuming the nexus 5 might take quite some time as well compared to the US release
IF you do know some stats about battery in the Xperia SP, do put it out as well.
The major advantage i hear about the Nexus is direct updates from google but aren't other phones like the Xperia SP likely to get custom Rom's with the latest software? So what's the big advantage in it? This would be my first android.
Thank you!
I don't know about the sp, but I have a ZL that I can't decide whether or not I like more than the N4. I'll give you some pointers on it since they are similar, to an extent.
My N4 hasn't broken and my kids and I are pretty rough on it. I have a ringke fusion case though. (I'm not a fan of any case for the device though, it has an of form factor to me). Battery gets me about 6-7 hours with battery guru enabled before a recharge is needed.
The ZL is awesome, I don't like the power button or the goofy scratch prone screen protector that is installed at the factory though. Battery lasts almost 24 hours with regular use, about 5 -6 hours of screen on. Almost two days with light use (I leave stamina on 24/7 and low power mode kicks in at 15%) Sony has a lot of nice options in their OS, but a lot of them also feel like they're in the way. If you've ran stock android, it'll feel way more similar than the Samsung and HTC devices, with a few extras baked in.
Ultimately, I love the feel and the display of the ZL, but I miss the stock lock screen and Google wallet too much to use it regularly. Rooting and flashing the ZL really was a pain too, broke NFC with every non stock ROM.
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It really depends on what you need/want. I find Nexus 4 really good but the lack of expandable memory really bugs me and the camera isn't really that good. Battery is so-so, it'll last a day with light use but only 12-16 hours with moderate to heavy use, oh, but I'm on stock with franco kernel and only had this phone for a week so far.
As for Xperia SP, since it has half the spec of Nexus 4 and bigger battery, it will definitely stay longer than Nexus 4. And as per review on Youtube, the performance is not really that much different than Nexus 4 and it has a cool stylish design. But, Sony's reputation on updates is what really stops me and also the lack of devs (hey, it's still new).
If you want better hardware and updates, get Nexus 4, but if you want a regular to use phone and better battery get Xperia SP. Best of luck dude.
Much appreciate the inputs, thank you.
I really don't mind compromising on the camera or the expandable memory however on the SP the lesser 1gb ram does set me back as I'm not too sure how big this lack of ram would affect the phone in the future. Is the lack of 2gb ram a deal breaker for future updates/appa/games?
The only concern about the nexus 4 is the battery. If it can last me for an hour of music on loud speaker with screen off, an hour of browsing,1-2 hours of light gaming and standby for ~9hrs(with data enabled) id go for it. But I don't know if it can give me so much battery backup either. So if you can help me out, thatd be great
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One gig should be enough as rumor has it that Key Lime Pie will be runnable even on a 512 MB RAM, rumor though. The only noticeable drawbacks from a lesser RAM is during multitasking, but it won't be that bad on 1 GB.
As for battery life of Nexus 4, most users can get up to 3-4 hours of screen time max. With a few music, browsing on Opera Mini, and some light gaming I think you can get at least 9 hours on stock. Dunno on custom ROMs or kernels, probably better.
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Here are some pros and cons of nexus 4
Pros :
Good hardware that is future protected at least for two major android updates .
The stock nexus experience , I like the software navigation bar instead of hardware keys .
Great support from developers , look at the xda threads .
Great bang for buck .
Cons :
Battery life is not that great , I could last a day with 3 to 4 hours of screen on time on 2g but lot less on 3g . (future updates may improve it but my 3g network drops a lot , even under good coverage)
Camera quality and screen quality not up to par with s3 but don't take me wrong here , it's still good.
Sound quality is not good , I missed a lots of calls when phone is faced up , but custom kennels and mods improved it .
Storage and battery are fixed.
Heats up if you ate going to game continuously for half an hour or more , or under any heavy load . mine reached 40 degree but that depends on your surrounding temperature .
I think the point here is that if you are not going to root the device then you may find some problems but for all the non nexus devices I had , the development support ended and cease after an year or so .
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Yes I will be rooting it for sure and trying out anything possible to get the best out of it. I really wish the battery backup was better, I don't really think I could deal with just 3hrs SOT. I mean I don't see the point in getting a powerhouse and not being able to make use of it while your on the move, especially for gaming and stuff. If I were to have to plug in so much I might as well play on my laptop. Even a SOT of 4-5hrs would have been great for me. But I'm really not sure if I could deal with 3.
Actually the more power a phone has, the more battery hungry it becomes. You'll
have to wait until our technology reach a new era, my guess would be around 2 to 5 years until we get some proper full touch screen phones with a good battery without bumping up the battery capacity. Or wait till Google optimizes Android to work efficiently and smoothly without sacrificing the battery.
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Um any idea what now much SOT other phones in the price range offer? Like the S3,Xperia SP or even the S4,Note 2,HTC ONE? If its the same case with all of them, then I guess it's alright. I just felt 3hrs was a bit too low, like I've said before I haven't used an android before so not too sure if this is the general issue
Sorry but I only know Nexus 4's SOT, I never checked my old devices SOT, just realized how to do it now
You should try asking at the respective device's forum or PM some owners to compare them. Good luck dude.
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earlier i use to have 3hrs of sot but with the new franco kernel and pa i have a sot of ~3hrs right now and my battery is 40% remaining
i watched videos played some music and took some photos
its always on wifi no 3g but with sync,location acces and all those thing unchanged and a total ~10hrs on battery now
also about heating i undervolt mine by 100mV and its not heating that much
also about screen i changed the color preset to bundi22 and the screen alot more better sometimes i feel that screen of nexus 4 is better than my earlier amoled experience but its all matter of your taste how you like it
hope i helped
mangomonkey00 said:
earlier i use to have 3hrs of sot but with the new franco kernel and pa i have a sot of ~3hrs right now and my battery is 40% remaining
i watched videos played some music and took some photos
its always on wifi no 3g but with sync,location acces and all those thing unchanged and a total ~10hrs on battery now
also about heating i undervolt mine by 100mV and its not heating that much
also about screen i changed the color preset to bundi22 and the screen alot more better sometimes i feel that screen of nexus 4 is better than my earlier amoled experience but its all matter of your taste how you like it
hope i helped
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That's very encouraging. As long as I get about 4hrs of SOT ill be very satisfied. The other minor problems don't matter much, I won't be gaming all day long so even if it does heat up its gonna last for only a while. I love the design,dev support and everything about the nexus. The only concern is about the battery. Also do you think it's a good option to wait for the nexus 5?
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That's very encouraging. As long as I get about 4hrs of SOT ill be very satisfied. The other minor problems don't matter much, I won't be gaming all day long so even if it does heat up its gonna last for only a while. I love the design,dev support and everything about the nexus. The only concern is about the battery. Also do you think it's a good option to wait for the nexus 5?
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i have no idea when nexus5 is coming if its coming soon then you should wait and buy new nexus5
but if you see in that way there will always be something new,powerful,better to buy in future and even i bought this around 1 month before
and according to me nexus 4 should not be outdated next 1 or 2 years
rest is upto you
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i have no idea when nexus5 is coming if its coming soon then you should wait and buy new nexus5
but if you see in that way there will always be something new,powerful,better to buy in future and even i bought this around 1 month before
and according to me nexus 4 should not be outdated next 1 or 2 years
rest is upto you
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Mhmm. Thank you for the advice mate, much appreciated
Im tempted by the Xperia Z!
superleeds27 said:
Im tempted by the Xperia Z!
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That's past my budget though so I'm gonna have to pick one between the 2 and it looks like its gonna be nexus!
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That's past my budget though so I'm gonna have to pick one between the 2 and it looks like its gonna be nexus!
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i was in the same boat as you but i also decided to buy nexus 4 and guess what , best decision ever no regrets ! my only fear was about battery life which i am getting same as the galaxy s2 which is pretty awesome too so yeah awesome phone
Nexus 4 got better CPU and more RAM. Nexus series will receive new android version very fast but if you have other device, you may have to wait about 0.5-1.5 year to get that android update (or you may not receive an update forever).

The Test of Time?

Now that this phone has been out for over a year, does anybody have any complaints?
How's the battery life?
Has it, or does it ever randomly freeze?
Anything you hate about it now that you've been using it for some time?
Lastly, I found this phone and the LG Optimus G new for around the same price range, the Nexus 4 being around $20 more expensive. Aside from the removable SD card on the Optimus G and LTE support, and the potentially removable battery on this phone, are there any other differences? If you had a choice to go with either phone once again, and neither the SD card, LTE support, nor battery being an issue in making your decision, which would you go with, and why? I believe the only other difference would be the Android support, with the Nexus 4 running 4.4.2, and the Optimus G running 4.1.2.
In other words, my friend is stuck between making a decision between the two and doesn't know which to go with.
Thanks!
Dude they look like almost the exact same phone. The only difference I can see on GSM Arena is that the Optimus has a (market dependent) 13 mp camera vs Nexus's 8mp subpar camera. If it did have a 13mp camera I would get the Optimus. Otherwise as bad as I hate to say it I just can't make myself get another phone at this point. I realllly want an LG G2 but it's like having a car that's paid for that you've become comfortable with and you got it like you like it. Although there are other models that may be a little bigger and get a little better gas mileage and have the navigation built into the steering wheel. Lol. My phone gets phenomenal battery life, can be upgraded to 4.4.2. Will continue to get a fair amount of developer support. Has a super cool glass back. I mean I think it's a good decision. I would probably never get another phone if I had a better camera... Tough choice.
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Yeah, they're essentially the same phone. That's the reason for the troubles, because the differences are so minor, I was just wondering if there was anything bigger than what was posted on a web a year ago.
If your friend doesn't care for LTE or more storage, then nexus 4 would be better. Running latest android version, lots of development support, looks fabulous with the glass back, running very smooth, battery is average but hey, this is a smartphone mate. of course it would gobble down battery fast (still I got almost 7 hours of sot with 22 hours of usage, not very average ain't it? ) But then, it depends on your friend, if he's not so much into rooting or updating android version, many of the nexus advantages would be nothing to him.
The screen will go at some point. Mine just did after 14 months. I was lucky. Some had theirs go funny at 6 months and LG refused to change the screen under warranty. My soft keys don't work in landscape. Only solution is a new screen. Save yourself the headache and buy something else.
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The screen will go at some point. Mine just did after 14 months. I was lucky. Some had theirs go funny at 6 months and LG refused to change the screen under warranty. My soft keys don't work in landscape. Only solution is a new screen. Save yourself the headache and buy something else.
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Just to clarify, which screen will go out? The Nexus 4?
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The performance and the display are excellent.
Battery life is ok.
But the LTE and the really bad camera make me consider an upgrade.
I would recommend to get a newer device.
About a year old now and this is still the sexiest phone. True there are better options but for the price it is still a tough one to beat. Zero issues with it, was my wife's at first, she broke the LCD a few months in (not the phones fault as she has broken half a dozen phones now) so she moved to wp8 (great for her) I took the n4 and swapped a new digitizer/LCD in it and it has been flawless for 8 months or so now.
I have played with a lot of the newer phones and this one still competes great, yes the camera could be better but for my purposes it is still perfect, oh and did I mention sexy as hell?
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when will the nexus 4 hardware be considered obsolete ?

hi all , i am looking for a reason to move to latest hardware of phone but i also think nexus 4 is pretty much ok-ish considering it can run anything without any hiccups and the interface is silky smooth , not trying to fuel the throw away culture but when will be the time to move to next phone ?
fahadsul3man said:
hi all , i am looking for a reason to move to latest hardware of phone but i also think nexus 4 is pretty much ok-ish considering it can run anything without any hiccups and the interface is silky smooth , not trying to fuel the throw away culture but when will be the time to move to next phone ?
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When any of these occur:
1) The device fails
2) It won't do the stuff you need it to
3) You want a new one and have the money
Personally, I expect to get another full year out of this device... My personal plan unless something fails to work properly is start looking for something new in the summer of 2015, it should be more than sufficient until then.
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When any of these occur:
1) The device fails
2) It won't do the stuff you need it to
3) You want a new one and have the money
Personally, I expect to get another full year out of this device... My personal plan unless something fails to work properly is start looking for something new in the summer of 2015, it should be more than sufficient until then.
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option 3 =[ lolol as i said i really dont want to cultivate the throw away culture but......... , my nexus 4 is fairly new , just 10 months old
fahadsul3man said:
option 3 =[ lolol as i said i really dont want to cultivate the throw away culture but......... , my nexus 4 is fairly new , just 10 months old
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You don't have to throw it, just sell it... either locally, or I would also recommend swappa.com, you should be able to get $200-$270 for it depending on condition.
Or send it to me... I will pay the shipping, better than throwing it away, and I will make good use of it.
I recommend you the G2 if you sell the Nexus 4....it's better than Nexus 5 and if you want AOSP there will be AOSP roms for sure, i think it has a big community
Its definitely good for at least 2 Google updates and has good specs for running most apps.
After that there will probably be some unofficial updates ported from other devices.
Which means it could well be good for a few years yet as long as it lasts that long.
Its a good phone with still quite decent specs so I wouldn't worry to much about it becoming dated.
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I recommend you the G2 if you sell the Nexus 4....it's better than Nexus 5 and if you want AOSP there will be AOSP roms for sure, i think it has a big community
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thanks for the advice , how long do you think apps will support the hardware of nexus 4 ? i mean the phones with less software can run most apps ,so n4's 2 gig of ram and quadcore as well as adreno 320 can last another year ?
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You don't have to throw it, just sell it... either locally, or I would also recommend swappa.com, you should be able to get $200-$270 for it depending on condition.
Or send it to me... I will pay the shipping, better than throwing it away, and I will make good use of it.
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it has a tiny crack on the front camera which isnt big deal only causes a small white halo and the headpiece makes a static sound rest of it is ok , few scratches here and there . so with that whats the ideal selling price ? i paid 400 $ for it when i bought it
fahadsul3man said:
thanks for the advice , how long do you think apps will support the hardware of nexus 4 ? i mean the phones with less software can run most apps ,so n4's 2 gig of ram and quadcore as well as adreno 320 can last another year ?
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N4 hardware won't be outdated for a long time....there are still lots of Dual core phones (2013+) that have no problems with apps....
and as ART gets more and more development the N4 hardware will work even more efficiently!
Basically like the others.... Until it either croaks, or worse, the software gets too outdated to run the latest software.
Having a Nexus 7 (2013 and 2012 models) also takes the load off of my phone, letting it be what it is supposed to be: a phone. Storage is a little low, but I don't carry around a bunch of music so that's not a big issue for me.
The Nexus 4 is the first phone I've had in a while that I wasn't itching to get rid of.
The original granddaddy, the G1: I hated how I couldn't see the keyboard in bright daylight... because of the silver keys on the bronze model. It was also a bit slow, but not as a big of an issue at that time as few apps were very demanding. Had to sell it in a financial crunch...
The MyTouch3G (32b): Hated it from Day 2. By the time I bought this, apps were demanding more memory. Music would randomly stop playing in the background as the memory manager executed things without discretion. It made calls. Just about anything else was a pain.
Galaxy S Vibrant: It was OK, I suppose. This was when each carrier still got their own version of the Galaxy S, as well. T-Mobile's version always lagged behind in software, and was abandoned way too early. The GPS could NEVER get a lock. Ever. And, I hated how everyone thought it was an iPhone.
LG / T-Mobile G2X. First dual core phone my ass. It seemed fast out of the gate, but turned out to be slow at the stupidest things. Games and benchmarks would fly, but no matter what ROM I installed - stock or otherwise - it was just SLOW at daily functions. Often it would get "busy" doing something (no idea WHAT) even with clean installs, and I'd have to pull the battery just to be able to use the phone. GPS was still terrible and frequently required reboots to lock. Then, again, it got abandoned on an old software version. LG had promised ICS, and never delivered. They later backtracked and said they'd only promised it for the LG Optimus 2X, not the G2X variant. The only difference was the radio, but the code was NEVER cracked and so no fully functional ICS could be provided... Between that and just how dog-assed slow it was... its only good point was near indestructibility.
Which brings me to the Nexus 4.... it does all the things right that I need. It responds snapily, it is reliable. Hasn't busted (yet) unlike the extremely fragile Nexus 7 2013.... Only downside is it was made by LG, for whom I have a hatred that transcends dimensions. A $199 price and Google's promise of support swayed me.
fahadsul3man said:
hi all , i am looking for a reason to move to latest hardware of phone but i also think nexus 4 is pretty much ok-ish considering it can run anything without any hiccups and the interface is silky smooth , not trying to fuel the throw away culture but when will be the time to move to next phone ?
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Buy a one plus one. It's 300$ for 16gb version and 350$ for 64gb version. It runs snapdragon 801 with 3gb ram. 5.5inch 1080p screen , Bluetooth 4.1, NFC and other features. It's runs cyanogen mod 11s. 13mp exymor camera , 5mp front camera. Both hardware and software navigation keys as per user settings.(user can change).
It will take a while before you can purchase it. only 100 units are for sale. They will soon start mass production.
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