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Hi fellow xda-ers,
I smashed my N4's back door yesterday, in a very eccentric way.
I was riding my race bike really fast, when I noticed something awkward in the balance of the bike, it felt kind of loose.
Cycling on a cobbled street, I didn't think more of it. Suddenly the rear wheel just hopped off, and stuck itself in the frame.
As I was pedaling standing, i was projected forward and almost fell. The upper part of my thighs struck the handlebar or the stem so hard, that it totally crushed my barely 2 months old N4.
Now, the back door is totally destroyed. It wouldn't be so much of a big deal if there wasn't dead pixel cloud on the screen...
The touchscreen is however fully working, tchecked it under developper options.
I am now wondering what to do. Either repair the back, get over the dead pixel problem and cross finger hoping nothing else has been damaged. Or repair the back, RMA the phone arguing about the drop connection problems (which I truely have been facing) and hope a new one comes. One last solution, which truely repels me, would be to repair the back, sell the phone and get a new one.
My question is, would a tiny grey cloud on the screen and a different backplate be noticed, if I RMA the phone ?
The spot is almost only visible on grey & white.
Please kindly spare me with the moral issues it raises. I am a student, I waited several months to get this phone and broke it out of bad luck, not even mishandling it. Plus the phone had dropouts problems ...
Thanks for your advice.
Stas
[ EDIT : I had started an RMA for connection dropouts before breaking the phone ]
ps : As english is not my native language, is it correct to say "pedaling standing" ? Looks ok, but is it the proper way of saying it ?
Sorry for the sht*y quality of pictures, I don't have any other camera than my computer's webcam. In reality grey dots are more visible.

smaghe said:
Hi fellow xda-ers,
I smashed my N4's back door yesterday, in a very eccentric way.
I was riding my race bike really fast, when I noticed something awkward in the balance of the bike, it felt kind of loose.
Cycling on a cobbled street, I didn't think more of it. Suddenly the rear wheel just hopped off, and stuck itself in the frame.
As I was pedaling standing, i was projected forward and almost fell. The upper part of my thighs struck the handlebar or the stem so hard, that it totally crushed my barely 2 months old N4.
Now, the back door is totally destroyed. It wouldn't be so much of a big deal if there wasn't dead pixel cloud on the screen...
The touchscreen is however fully working, tchecked it under developper options.
I am now wondering what to do. Either repair the back, get over the dead pixel problem and cross finger hoping nothing else has been damaged. Or repair the back, RMA the phone arguing about the drop connection problems (which I truely have been facing) and hope a new one comes. One last solution, which truely repels me, would be to repair the back, sell the phone and get a new one.
My question is, would a tiny grey cloud on the screen and a different backplate be noticed, if I RMA the phone ?
The spot is almost only visible on grey & white.
Please kindly spare me with the moral issues it raises. I am a student, I waited several months to get this phone and broke it out of bad luck, not even mishandling it. Plus the phone had dropouts problems ...
Thanks for your advice.
Stas
ps : As english is not my native language, is it correct to say "pedaling standing" ? Looks ok, but is it the proper way of saying it ?
Sorry for the sht*y quality of pictures, I don't have any other camera than my computer's webcam. In reality grey dots are more visible.
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If you had bad luck, why is it the responsibility of Google to foot the bill of your bad luck? When did Google enter the business of insurance?
I understand that you're a student, but think about the above. And if the phone truly had substantial drop-out problems, you would have replaced it a long time ago. Your choice to keep the phone suggests that the "problem" is not as dire as you're making it out to be. It's funny how the phone breaks, and suddenly your phone had a "problem" all along that you "lived with".
Repair the phone, sell it off if you want, and disclose that information to your buyer.

Couldn't you call up LG customer care and send it to them to fix it for a cost?
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@PoisonWolf
I actually had started an RMA procedure for the network problems ...
@DarkSora
A backplate is an ok cost. Backplate + Display is definitely not worth it...

So you don't think they would notice the damage to the phone once they get it back and not charge you?

The accident is through no fault of Google so they wont repair it for free. Even though you started the RMA procedure, they wont accept a damaged phone like that when you send it them. Most likely the hold they put on your card will actually be what you end up paying.

Under no circumstances should you sell the phone unless you tell the person what happened to it and sell it as-is without trying to fix it yourself. Some people are into fixing phones. Sending it to Google under the assumption that you are trying to fix a different problem so you can get a new phone is just plain dishonest. Karma is real and doesn't let people get away with dishonest actions for very long.
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If you can live with the screen issue, fixing the back is a simple $10 thing. Go buy a DBrand skin http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095261 they will stick to broken screens and now you can't tell. No fancy pattern but you lost that anyway now.They are pretty thick and the black leather I have feels nice.
I keep thinking about bringing my N4 with mne when I ride but avoid it for this reason. I have hit my thigh on many things, I would rather pop out the SIM and use my HTC desire, but I generaly just ride without a phone or use the Desire as an MP3 player.

@ Rizy & Kzoodroid
Read ! I don't plan on sending it back without having the back repaired. Just repair the back and keep on with my initial RMA procedure, that I had started BEFORE I broke the phone.
It's quite unsure wether they will notice the dark spot on the screen, and that is the thing I was wondering about.
@eqjunkie829
Yes, that's why I said it repeled me.
@ajanu
Thanks ! It's a great solution, but it implies buying a new back cover, and get over the screen's dark spot, also implies keep on having dropouts problems.

smaghe said:
@ Rizy & Kzoodroid
Read ! I don't plan on sending it back without having the back repaired. Just repair the back and keep on with my initial RMA procedure, that I had started BEFORE I broke the phone.
It's quite unsure wether they will notice the dark spot on the screen, and that is the thing I was wondering about.
@eqjunkie829
Yes, that's why I said it repeled me.
@ajanu
Thanks ! It's a great solution, but it implies buying a new back cover, and get over the screen's dark spot, also implies keep on having dropouts problems.
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No one on here knows what Google is going to do even if you repair the phone. Its all just speculation as to what their process is for inspecting RMA'd devices. I believe the back glass runs around $100 and not sure if its an exact copy of the original or not. But if you repairs look original I say RMA it.

Xperia Z1 experience

Well, hi there, nice people of the XDA forums,
I have been using my shiny new Z1 for a month now and here's my opinion on it. It is awesome. Good battery life, beautiful screen and build coming from a Xperia V user.
I've loved every second of using it after i got used to its large form.
Sadly, my Z1 has now been returned to the service centre since I bent it. I got to admit, when I first saw people posting images of their bent Z1s and saying that no external forces were imposed on the device, I was like "which dumb guy will believe that a phone made of aluminium would magically bend itself?", but after 1 month, unfortunately, I realised my Z1 was bent horizontally above the power button. It was hard to notice at first as I had it in a roxfit gel shell, I think that's what it is called, but when I removed the case, I had a huge shock.
Later that day, I sent my Z1 to my local Sony centre, I live in Singapore, and apparently, there have been many cases of this happening here but the lady was reluctant to tell me if the damages could be covered warranty.
So, here I am, writing this post to remind my fellow Z1 lovers to never ever ever put you phone in a region that is really tight and moves a lot, for example the pockets on your jeans, as you may come to regret it.
P.S. I'm just posting my experience with it so far, if I am on the wrong section, feel free to yell and get a mod to move it.
P.S.S I'll update this as the service centre gets back to me.
Timeline:
23/1/14 - Day 1 - Sent Z1 to service centre.
25/1/14 - Day 3 - Received email that service centre has started repairs
20/2/14 - Day 28 - Finally, after a lot of emails between me and Sony and even longer waiting time for emails, Sony has finally got back to me.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h3v7rln8wuahxm0/Capture.JPG

I'm using my Z1 for a month now and no bent phone, nothing, I'm using it with no case amd in my jeans with that protective thing on my glass
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strange that most people with bend phone where putting cases while ppl who go naked are straight !

Do you happened to have any pictures?

ashouhdy said:
while ppl who go naked are straight !
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Are you sure :sly:
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Well I'm straight, so this makes sense now
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did op say he bent his phone?
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This cant be life

Yea I bent my phone. Sorry. I don't have pictures. But imagine a arc S's curve. But on a z1. Also, I have to assume its because we have cases on our phone so we tend to disregard minor bumps and such even though they hurt the fragile device.
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Aaron_035 said:
Yea I bent my phone. Sorry. I don't have pictures. But imagine a arc S's curve. But on a z1. Also, I have to assume its because we have cases on our phone so we tend to disregard minor bumps and such even though they hurt the fragile device.
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isnt that cool ? i mean u now have the LG G Flex from SONY

sruba209 said:
isnt that cool ? i mean u now have the LG G Flex from SONY
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Well. Not really. I freaked out. I meant, yea. I know I shouldn't have put it in my pocket and ran up and down stairs with it but every other phone I have, have survived that so I was a little disappointed.

Aaron_035 said:
Well. Not really. I freaked out. I meant, yea. I know I shouldn't have put it in my pocket and ran up and down stairs with it but every other phone I have, have survived that so I was a little disappointed.
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Not every ... I had broken galaxy note in my front pocket jeans screen into pieces while sitting.
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Are you sure :sly:
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Atleast they are clear with their needs !
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ashouhdy said:
Not every ... I had broken galaxy note in my front pocket jeans screen into pieces while sitting.
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Atleast they are clear with their needs !
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I've neen through quite a few phones, a W595, W995, iPhone 3G (unfortunately), a Galaxy S2 (also unfortunate), arc, arc s, V, then finally my Z1.
And ironically, I've only sustained serious damage in the last 2 phones, ie, the V's flaps coming off and, of course, my z1 bending. Funny how as time passes, their life spans decrease.

Day 4 Update - 26/1/14
Well Sony finally got back to me to tell me:
1. Frame bending is nor under warranty
2. I have to replace the screen
3. It will cost me SGD$405 or USD$320
Being the broke student I am, I'll probably sell my z! then buy a nexus 5.
Seriously the crappiest warranty coverage ever.
After a long long time with Sony, this has been a major bite in the ass.

Aaron_035 said:
Seriously the crappiest warranty coverage ever.
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Well to be fair, I'm pretty sure the warranty covers manufacturer faults, not the user making a fault. If I drop my phone and kill it, why should the manufacturer cover the costs? Trouble is when the person honestly hasn't damaged it through their own fault, in which case proving to the manufacturer you haven't is pretty much impossible. Unless you wear a GoPro all the time or something.
You would be looking for insurance cover, or some kind of extended warranty/protection that covers user inflicted damages.
Either way, I'm careful with my Z1 in my pocket now, especially when sitting down

Minibull said:
Well to be fair, I'm pretty sure the warranty covers manufacturer faults, not the user making a fault. If I drop my phone and kill it, why should the manufacturer cover the costs? Trouble is when the person honestly hasn't damaged it through their own fault, in which case proving to the manufacturer you haven't is pretty much impossible. Unless you wear a GoPro all the time or something.
You would be looking for insurance cover, or some kind of extended warranty/protection that covers user inflicted damages.
Either way, I'm careful with my Z1 in my pocket now, especially when sitting down
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I guess that's that then. Nothing much I can do about it other than be furious and then cry myself to sleep.

Aaron_035 said:
be furious and then cry myself to sleep.
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On a serious note, it sucks bigtime, man. At least it seems like the phone still works, going by what you said in the first post. May not be waterproof now, but still.

Minibull said:
On a serious note, it sucks bigtime, man. At least it seems like the phone still works, going by what you said in the first post. May not be waterproof now, but still.
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It still works. By my calculations, I cant afford a nexus 5 even if i sold the z1 at half the retail price, which means I'm stuck with a banana phone for 11 months. Guess I'll just put a book on it or something until the phone returns to the normal shape or until the screen shatters.
Will update. :/

i don't know what to say... this bending thing is wierd...
i bought my z1 from singapore over ebay and i have it for two month now. i keep it in my jeans front pocket the whole day, sometimes i have my GF sit on my lap and on the phone and it's still straight as an arrow... i have a soft tpu case protecting it...
i don't think physical pressure is at fault here, must be either overheating or manufacturing fault...

shteren said:
i don't think physical pressure is at fault here, must be either overheating or manufacturing fault...
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Overheating would be a very strange one though, I would expect issues with the glass splitting like with the XZ before the aluminium frame warping. The phones get hot, but not that hot. If it was getting hot to the point it may soften and warp, you would probably have cooked the battery and the CPU/GPU as well. Not to mention it could take time for it to warp.
I know someone who had an Xperia S, and they would hear it crack every so often when they would sit down, or bend their leg. No damage to it, but obviously something wasn't liking the pressure. Meanwhile I had an XS, never heard it make noises like that. But then I always have loose pockets, whereas my mates phone was wedged into his pocket, tight as.

Minibull said:
Overheating would be a very strange one though, I would expect issues with the glass splitting like with the XZ before the aluminium frame warping. The phones get hot, but not that hot. If it was getting hot to the point it may soften and warp, you would probably have cooked the battery and the CPU/GPU as well. Not to mention it could take time for it to warp.
I know someone who had an Xperia S, and they would hear it crack every so often when they would sit down, or bend their leg. No damage to it, but obviously something wasn't liking the pressure. Meanwhile I had an XS, never heard it make noises like that. But then I always have loose pockets, whereas my mates phone was wedged into his pocket, tight as.
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net nessecerly... if the aluminum frame is made by chipping it can be made is a bad way causing internal forces inside the aluminum, these forces need not 500 degrees to alter it's shape, i'm not talking about the frame melting.
just a small temperature, 50-60 degrees is enough to give the frame the energy it takes to relive these internal forces and bend itself...
this is why i said manufacturing fault, because if some of the frames were made in one factory which did the chipping wrong and others in another which did it right it can explain why some devices bend and some don't. and it has nothing to do with external pressure...
if you want to google go for "strain tensor"

Xperia Z1 Water Damage

Just send in my z1 for water damage after going to the pool 2 days back.. Had no idea how can water went to Sim port and micro SD port when I'm using casemate tough dual layer protective case.. And there's small water droplets around the camera lens..
Still not sure will they honor the warranty or gonna push the blame to me.. Will only know the outcome tomorrow..
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Same thing happened to me today, but now the phone working fine, let's see how's it will do this week, camera button also is pressing itself sometimes without me touching it.
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jancarlos1597 said:
Same thing happened to me today, but now the phone working fine, let's see how's it will do this week, camera button also is pressing itself sometimes without me touching it.
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Yup.. My camera also auto starting randomly and at times it's just keep starting in a loop till i have to freeze camera apps using TB.. Anyway why dont you send back in and try claiming for warranty?

infatality said:
Yup.. My camera also auto starting randomly and at times it's just keep starting in a loop till i have to freeze camera apps using TB.. Anyway why dont you send back in and try claiming for warranty?
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Because i bought it from a guy, but if the problem still this week, i will go with the guy that a bought it and claim the warranty.
I didn't freeze the camera app, i only disable button launch on options.
Lets see how the phone do this week.

I went to the service centre at junction 8 after dropping my z1 in the pool. When they ask you about water just denie everything
Got my entire pcb board replaced and my warranty still stands.
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Techtard said:
I went to the service centre at junction 8 after dropping my z1 in the pool. When they ask you about water just denie everything
Got my entire pcb board replaced and my warranty still stands.
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Does your imei still retains after changing the whole pcb?
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Now the phone is auto-pressing the power button :\
At the end of this week i whink i will claim the warranty.

jancarlos1597 said:
Now the phone is auto-pressing the power button :\
At the end of this week i whink i will claim the warranty.
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Well I guess many z1 have manufacturing defects.. It's almost impossible for an ip58 rating device to come in contact with water despite all ports had been covered properly..
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infatality said:
Well I guess many z1 have manufacturing defects.. It's almost impossible for an ip58 rating device to come in contact with water despite all ports had been covered properly..
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Tomorrow i will go to claim the warranty, is anoying, i can't use the phone at all...

All I can say about my Z1 is that it's honestly been the best phone I've ever had. The screen is good, camera is great, build quality is amazing. I haven't had any problems with it.
Some Z1's do leak but mine has been great. I was taking pictures in a pool and I dropped it, it went to the bottom (deeper than what its rated at) and its fine.

infatality said:
Well I guess many z1 have manufacturing defects.. It's almost impossible for an ip58 rating device to come in contact with water despite all ports had been covered properly..
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never actually tried with either the Z1 or the Z in water yet, now I don't think I will... at least not with the Z1
by the way, are you Cantonese bud?

This is my water travel, after one Day Phone is alive but screen is... everyone See :/
IT is possible to fix that? Clean inside screen?

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Does your imei still retains after changing the whole pcb?
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New imei given with the number on the job status form.
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Wow. Seems like this phone isn't that waterproof. At least they fix it for free.
To the people who have water damage: Do you open and close the USB cover frequently? Or do you use a dock? The cover might have just gotten loose.

That is weird I was in Mexico and went in the ocean and pool with it and no problems
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grzesiek1945 said:
This is my water travel, after one Day Phone is alive but screen is... everyone See :/
IT is possible to fix that? Clean inside screen?
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Prolly need to open the screen. Seems like water went in between the screen and digitizer... Anyways at first look it looked like a theme. Had to stare for a few seconds before I could see the fault.

I think that bending is a big contributing part of the water damage. I have had mine in a fair bit of water, reasonably deep, say 1m max, for most of it I had no problems... But I bent it ever so slightly (0.25mm) somehow (check out how many complaints are about z1's bending, the alum. bends on drops, and slight pressure) and because of that water got in (not into sim slots etc)... Anywho, it fixed up shortly after, and I did bend it back the other way so it was straight again, and shortly after checked the waterproofness, to find that it was watertight again (very slight pressure to bend it back, the alum. is sooo malleable) ... and now it's just died, permanently, because it's bent again(it once again is bent about 0.25mm) it will still boot if i apply pressure to it, so presumably it's some kind of power connector which has broken solder or something. It's a real shame because otherwise the phone is great, they just bend so easily, heaps of threads on the net about it if you guys aren't aware, which means it's not sealed properly.
I've never broken a phone before, I'm very careful, borderline paranoid about the way I treat my phones.

my friend get fog on camera after using many time.
but still working on until now.
n my z1 not yet go to pool but i have many time wash it.

Personally I see this water proofing as just another level of insurance for when I use my phone around water,
I don't plan on using it in the water. Its sad in a way because I have other water proof devices (watches, Canon D1) and use them all the time in the water with out any fear. I guess a cell is more important to me so i just rather not take the risk even with the IP58 certification.
It is a bit frustrating I am sure for many people who bought the phone and planned on using it in the water as advertised by Sony and are now having problems.
I had a Otterbox Armor which was water proof for my Samsung S3 but I also never actually took it in the water it was more just insurance.
I got the Z1 knowing i would be around water and wanted to keep the phone slim but still protected in-case it gets splashed.

deconfrost said:
never actually tried with either the Z1 or the Z in water yet, now I don't think I will... at least not with the Z1
by the way, are you Cantonese bud?
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Yes.. I'm Cantonese.. Can tell from my surname.. [emoji14]
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Took galaxy s7 edge to poool.

Man that was awesome ! Took many pictures and video I took a swim for 2 to 3 hours today. Took it out for a 30 minute breaks twice, it works great! One thing to be aware about is your speaker will sound muffled for a good 3 to 4 hours! At least mine did glad sound came back had me worried there for a momment. Moral of the story you will have absolutely no problem taking your s7 edge to the pool for a full day of fun, your speaker will eventually come back to normal. Actually sounds better haha, maybe phone is water proof?!
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I think it will be fine, how did you take pictures underwater without screen working? Nm figured out you can use volume to do so.

Sonin66 said:
I think it will be fine, how did you take pictures underwater without screen working? Nm figured out you can use volume to do so.
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Yeah lol that's what I did I used thevolume button and it worked great. As of now phone is functioning properly. Not worried about what happens a week from now to it because I'm not worried, as I was fully confident my phone will handle being submerged into the pool and water slide with the only problem being my speaker. I didn't however realize it will take 4 hours for the speaker to dry.
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Already a similar post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/help/phone-underwater-t3337471
Basically it's good for 30 minutes to 5 feet of water.

Samsung doesn't warranty against water damage so even they have little faith in their water resistivity. It should be used as insurance and not for underwater photography. This is just the tip of the Iceberg as there are many posts like this...
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...a-lense-proximity-sensor-no-longer-works.html

kronium said:
Samsung doesn't warranty against water damage so even they have little faith in their water resistivity. It should be used as insurance and not for underwater photography. This is just the tip of the Iceberg as there are many posts like this...
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...a-lense-proximity-sensor-no-longer-works.html
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I think they don't want people deep sea diving and trying to warranty their phone when it does get water in it. I have personally took a shower letting the water hit the phone while trying to install a screen protector. Phone was fine honestly, even did my gear s2 the same way. Only problem I noticed was the speaker and microphone not working after for an hour or so

I was in Cancun at the end of April, and I used my phone in the pool, and took underwater video and pics like a mad man. Phone works perfectly fine, never have had any issues with it after being submerged.
Just make sure you let the phone dry completely before trying to charge it.

idtheftvictim said:
I was in Cancun at the end of April, and I used my phone in the pool, and took underwater video and pics like a mad man. Phone works perfectly fine, never have had any issues with it after being submerged.
Just make sure you let the phone dry completely before trying to charge it.
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Yeah I know lol. People not having the balls to do it themselves think there phone will mess up? Hahaha haha yeah sure because I've heard of peoples s7 edge not working after a water test. "It voids warranty ???? Yada Yada Yada" who cares. I have not onces had to return any phone for a warranty exchange. And with a water resistant phone you think we don't want to use it under water? If you don't have the balls big enough than don't do it. I could care less. Letting people know that YOU CAN SWIM WITH YOUR S7/S7 EDGE if you choose to do so.
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nano303 said:
Moral of the story you will have absolutely no problem taking your s7 edge to the pool for a full day of fun, your speaker will eventually come back to normal. Actually sounds better haha, maybe phone is water proof?! View attachment 3772861
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That's irresponsible to claim this when there are many examples of the S7edge getting water damaged. I'm glad yours didn't get water damaged. Now don't be a **** about it.

Used my device in the pool a few wks ago also no issues. Speaker sounded like $&jt for a few hrs but after a while sounded normal. One thing to plan ahead is u wont be able to charge device soon after its submerged as it will throw a moisture detection msg and u'll have to wait till its completely dry. Or u can do what i did n use a blow dryer to expidite the dryness. Lol. Just dont fry ur phone.

I haven't seen any reports of water damage from pools, on the contrary everyone saying they did it with no problem
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I haven't seen any reports of water damage from pools, on the contrary everyone saying they did it with no problem
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If you search S7 and S7 edge water damage, you will find many examples. Just use a little caution if you're like me and $750 means a lot to you.

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If you search S7 and S7 edge water damage, you will find many examples. Just use a little caution if you're like me and $750 means a lot to you.
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Lol 750 is a lot to me too bro. I babied this phone for the first month. After that I used it without case lol have nicks around my phone but I'm not trippin. Your phone wouldn't damage man take a shower or go surfing with it you'll be golden I'm not sure I'll swim to the bottom of the ocean for the phone though. It's cool to be cautious. I had that mentality it'll brush away soon lol
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Report back in a week...
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I've done under wateriyaki photography and videos on 4 separate occasions and it's worked every time.and flawless since. It's manufactured to do so.

I just came back from a whole week cruise vacation, and let me tell you! this phone is awesome every day pictures in the pool under water and phone works without any issues, like before make sure you dont go too deep.

Mine went for a trip in the washing machine last night for about 30 minutes before I realized it and took it out. Works perfect. Speaker took about a day to dry out, but over all I'm damn impressed.

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Oh BTW it's been 11 days, have not had a single problem
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I just got back from a trip into the mountains around Boone NC. I did a lot of fishing and river tubing with my phone in my pocket the whole time. I didn't use the phone under water but it was in my pocket while I fished the Watauga with the water up to my armpits. I did see a popup on the phone about water being detected but haven't experienced any issues the phone. I got some good pictures and video that couldn't have been gotten even with my go pro as the sound with the phone is perfect. I took a chance but in this case it was worth it.

Tw1sted247 said:
I've done under wateriyaki photography and videos on 4 separate occasions and it's worked every time.and flawless since. It's manufactured to do so.
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No, it isn't. It is manufactured to withstand a certain water immersion depth and length of time in a static environment. Actually using it, ie: moving it under water, pressing buttons, etc can easily go outside of the specifications. Not to mention it is in no way rated for underwater use, its water resistance is designed for some protection against accidental exposure.
Point is this, it is your device and you should use it as you please. But to suggest that it is in any way ok or that it is designed to do so is extremely irresponsible on your part. For starters it is wrong, and your warranty will be voided should any water immersion be detected. I'm pretty sure there are indicators built in for Samsung to know what you did.

Bricked S8. Water damaged?

I tested my new S8 in the pool, and took a few pictures using the volume control button. After a few minutes the phone shutdown.
When charging (wired or wireless) it gets warms, but the screen remained off.
It doesn't boot. And nothing shows on screen. Tried to boot to recovery mode and nothing happened as well.
To my surprise download mode works normally!!! But when I choose restart does back to blank screen,
I re flashed stock ROM through ODIN with success, but it still doesn't boot or go to recovery.
I tried to flash TWRP recovery, but the phone is FRP locked....
It seems the water "damage" sent the phone to a lockdown mode and the boot img isn't available anymore..
Any ideas or helpful feedback? After many years and dozens of soft bricked devices it seems I got my first hard-bricked one.

braap said:
I tested my new S8 in the pool, and took a few pictures using the volume control button. After a few minutes the phone shutdown.
When charging (wired or wireless) it gets warms, but the screen remained off.
It doesn't boot. And nothing shows on screen. Tried to boot to recovery mode and nothing happened as well.
To my surprise download mode works normally!!! But when I choose restart does back to blank screen,
I re flashed stock ROM through ODIN with success, but it still doesn't boot or go to recovery.
I tried to flash TWRP recovery, but the phone is FRP locked....
It seems the water "damage" sent the phone to a lockdown mode and the boot img isn't available anymore..
Any ideas or helpful feedback? After many years and dozens of soft bricked devices it seems I got my first hard-bricked one.
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I guess it can resist 3 feet dept.
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thahim said:
I guess it can resist 3 feet dept.
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It's not relevant here, but it wasn't more than 2 feet, and less than 1 minute....

Don't put expensive electric devices in water, even if advertised as water resistant.

braap said:
I tested my new S8 in the pool
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The phone isn't waterproof, just water resistant, expensive lesson learned i guess.

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The phone isn't waterproof, just water resistant, expensive lesson learned i guess.
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Since Samsung used this image at their press conference I'd expect it to be covered under warranty.

IP68 certified - dust/water proof over 1.5 meter and 30 minutes
Had the s7 edge , used it extensively in sea water and in pools and no damage was present afterwards. Just follow the rules. Simple

Bring to samsung service centre

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Since Samsung used this image at their press conference I'd expect it to be covered under warranty.
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And when the service center says sorry we don't cover water damage you will do what? Sue? Please...
tasked28m said:
Had the s7 edge , used it extensively in sea water
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You are very smrt.

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And when the service center says sorry we don't cover water damage you will do what? Sue? Please...
You are very smrt.
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Next time pay attention to what I personally say. I didn't say Samsung is obliged to give you a free phone if you are care less. I told you there are specific guidelines and rules on how to use your phone underwater. They wouldn't advertise underwater unboxing and am pretty sure there no fresh water sharks out there.

What rules? Keep it less than 30 minutes in the water and less than 1.5m deep? I wouldn't trust any of those rules with a device this expensive, unless samsung specifically says that the phone is water proof then i'll use it under water, but since its only water resistant i wouldn't risk it.

Samsung can test the seals before they open it. When you send it in for repair they will email you status updates. If they open it before you see an update saying they tested the seals than tell you warrantee denied due to water damage, call them and ask them how they know it didn't have a defective water seal before they opened it since the didn't test the seals. If they say send it back in for reevaluation, tell them only if they promise to fix it, because now that they have potentially fixed the broken seal by opening and re closing it they have no way to tell if the original failure was a failed seal. Samsung will always use the water sensor inside against you, unless you are smarter than them and point out nowhere does the log on your phone repair say they tested the seal.

I do unserstand your concerns but companies like samsung and lg wouldn't risk being suied cause of wreckess design and obviously catastrophic results. Do as they told you to and you'll just be fine.

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IP68 certified - dust/water proof over 1.5 meter and 30 minutes
Had the s7 edge , used it extensively in sea water and in pools and no damage was present afterwards. Just follow the rules. Simple
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technically the rules is fresh water, not sea or pool water..

Samsung and Sony both say the phone is tested in lab conditions and switched off.
It is not meant to be used in water. Electricity and water do not mix!

Just buy your unit with an insurance plan. My carrier offers me free insurance and for 1€ extra I'm getting loss or theft covered also. Easy peasy. I used to own a Z3. Oh wait! I owned 5 different z3's.

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Next time pay attention to what I personally say. I didn't say Samsung is obliged to give you a free phone if you are care less. I told you there are specific guidelines and rules on how to use your phone underwater. They wouldn't advertise underwater unboxing and am pretty sure there no fresh water sharks out there.
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Certainly in the UK you'd be entitled to a refund or replacement from the place of purchase, not Samsung. They are the ones legally liable and I'd have thought that if they advertise the phone as working underwater, and it doesn't, you'd have a pretty concrete argument under the Consumer Rights Act as it's not as described.

braap said:
I tested my new S8 in the pool, and took a few pictures using the volume control button. After a few minutes the phone shutdown.
When charging (wired or wireless) it gets warms, but the screen remained off.
It doesn't boot. And nothing shows on screen. Tried to boot to recovery mode and nothing happened as well.
To my surprise download mode works normally!!! But when I choose restart does back to blank screen,
I re flashed stock ROM through ODIN with success, but it still doesn't boot or go to recovery.
I tried to flash TWRP recovery, but the phone is FRP locked....
It seems the water "damage" sent the phone to a lockdown mode and the boot img isn't available anymore..
Any ideas or helpful feedback? After many years and dozens of soft bricked devices it seems I got my first hard-bricked one.
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Put that sucker in a bag of rice
I wish my S8 plus was rooted?
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braap said:
I tested my new S8 in the pool, and took a few pictures using the volume control button. After a few minutes the phone shutdown.
When charging (wired or wireless) it gets warms, but the screen remained off.
It doesn't boot. And nothing shows on screen. Tried to boot to recovery mode and nothing happened as well.
To my surprise download mode works normally!!! But when I choose restart does back to blank screen,
I re flashed stock ROM through ODIN with success, but it still doesn't boot or go to recovery.
I tried to flash TWRP recovery, but the phone is FRP locked....
It seems the water "damage" sent the phone to a lockdown mode and the boot img isn't available anymore..
Any ideas or helpful feedback? After many years and dozens of soft bricked devices it seems I got my first hard-bricked one.
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Have you tried to bypass the factory reset protection?
I wish my S8 plus was rooted?

Cant believe what I just read lol are you for real or trolling? Because they have an image of it you think its some sort of Submarine phone :laugh: phones are electrical equipment even if they bull**** saying they can go in water dam I wouldnt trust that at all

Look up underwater testing on YouTube. Several devices pass the test and some go for an hour underwater without damaging the unit. Maybe buy one of those. ?
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