Man that was awesome ! Took many pictures and video I took a swim for 2 to 3 hours today. Took it out for a 30 minute breaks twice, it works great! One thing to be aware about is your speaker will sound muffled for a good 3 to 4 hours! At least mine did glad sound came back had me worried there for a momment. Moral of the story you will have absolutely no problem taking your s7 edge to the pool for a full day of fun, your speaker will eventually come back to normal. Actually sounds better haha, maybe phone is water proof?!
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I think it will be fine, how did you take pictures underwater without screen working? Nm figured out you can use volume to do so.
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I think it will be fine, how did you take pictures underwater without screen working? Nm figured out you can use volume to do so.
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Yeah lol that's what I did I used thevolume button and it worked great. As of now phone is functioning properly. Not worried about what happens a week from now to it because I'm not worried, as I was fully confident my phone will handle being submerged into the pool and water slide with the only problem being my speaker. I didn't however realize it will take 4 hours for the speaker to dry.
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Already a similar post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/help/phone-underwater-t3337471
Basically it's good for 30 minutes to 5 feet of water.
Samsung doesn't warranty against water damage so even they have little faith in their water resistivity. It should be used as insurance and not for underwater photography. This is just the tip of the Iceberg as there are many posts like this...
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...a-lense-proximity-sensor-no-longer-works.html
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Samsung doesn't warranty against water damage so even they have little faith in their water resistivity. It should be used as insurance and not for underwater photography. This is just the tip of the Iceberg as there are many posts like this...
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...a-lense-proximity-sensor-no-longer-works.html
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I think they don't want people deep sea diving and trying to warranty their phone when it does get water in it. I have personally took a shower letting the water hit the phone while trying to install a screen protector. Phone was fine honestly, even did my gear s2 the same way. Only problem I noticed was the speaker and microphone not working after for an hour or so
I was in Cancun at the end of April, and I used my phone in the pool, and took underwater video and pics like a mad man. Phone works perfectly fine, never have had any issues with it after being submerged.
Just make sure you let the phone dry completely before trying to charge it.
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I was in Cancun at the end of April, and I used my phone in the pool, and took underwater video and pics like a mad man. Phone works perfectly fine, never have had any issues with it after being submerged.
Just make sure you let the phone dry completely before trying to charge it.
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Yeah I know lol. People not having the balls to do it themselves think there phone will mess up? Hahaha haha yeah sure because I've heard of peoples s7 edge not working after a water test. "It voids warranty ???? Yada Yada Yada" who cares. I have not onces had to return any phone for a warranty exchange. And with a water resistant phone you think we don't want to use it under water? If you don't have the balls big enough than don't do it. I could care less. Letting people know that YOU CAN SWIM WITH YOUR S7/S7 EDGE if you choose to do so.
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Moral of the story you will have absolutely no problem taking your s7 edge to the pool for a full day of fun, your speaker will eventually come back to normal. Actually sounds better haha, maybe phone is water proof?! View attachment 3772861
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That's irresponsible to claim this when there are many examples of the S7edge getting water damaged. I'm glad yours didn't get water damaged. Now don't be a **** about it.
Used my device in the pool a few wks ago also no issues. Speaker sounded like $&jt for a few hrs but after a while sounded normal. One thing to plan ahead is u wont be able to charge device soon after its submerged as it will throw a moisture detection msg and u'll have to wait till its completely dry. Or u can do what i did n use a blow dryer to expidite the dryness. Lol. Just dont fry ur phone.
I haven't seen any reports of water damage from pools, on the contrary everyone saying they did it with no problem
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I haven't seen any reports of water damage from pools, on the contrary everyone saying they did it with no problem
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If you search S7 and S7 edge water damage, you will find many examples. Just use a little caution if you're like me and $750 means a lot to you.
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If you search S7 and S7 edge water damage, you will find many examples. Just use a little caution if you're like me and $750 means a lot to you.
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Lol 750 is a lot to me too bro. I babied this phone for the first month. After that I used it without case lol have nicks around my phone but I'm not trippin. Your phone wouldn't damage man take a shower or go surfing with it you'll be golden I'm not sure I'll swim to the bottom of the ocean for the phone though. It's cool to be cautious. I had that mentality it'll brush away soon lol
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I've done under wateriyaki photography and videos on 4 separate occasions and it's worked every time.and flawless since. It's manufactured to do so.
I just came back from a whole week cruise vacation, and let me tell you! this phone is awesome every day pictures in the pool under water and phone works without any issues, like before make sure you dont go too deep.
Mine went for a trip in the washing machine last night for about 30 minutes before I realized it and took it out. Works perfect. Speaker took about a day to dry out, but over all I'm damn impressed.
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Oh BTW it's been 11 days, have not had a single problem
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I just got back from a trip into the mountains around Boone NC. I did a lot of fishing and river tubing with my phone in my pocket the whole time. I didn't use the phone under water but it was in my pocket while I fished the Watauga with the water up to my armpits. I did see a popup on the phone about water being detected but haven't experienced any issues the phone. I got some good pictures and video that couldn't have been gotten even with my go pro as the sound with the phone is perfect. I took a chance but in this case it was worth it.
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I've done under wateriyaki photography and videos on 4 separate occasions and it's worked every time.and flawless since. It's manufactured to do so.
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No, it isn't. It is manufactured to withstand a certain water immersion depth and length of time in a static environment. Actually using it, ie: moving it under water, pressing buttons, etc can easily go outside of the specifications. Not to mention it is in no way rated for underwater use, its water resistance is designed for some protection against accidental exposure.
Point is this, it is your device and you should use it as you please. But to suggest that it is in any way ok or that it is designed to do so is extremely irresponsible on your part. For starters it is wrong, and your warranty will be voided should any water immersion be detected. I'm pretty sure there are indicators built in for Samsung to know what you did.
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A Very Cautionary Tale...
We've all heard the "urban myths" about exploding phones, and maybe even a few of you have experienced them. I'm here to tell you, they're true (proof below).
Got home, put my phone on the desk (wood) face down right next to my laptop and plugged it into USB to charge. Left the room for about 20 minutes.
As I was walking back into the room I heard a very loud POP. I looked over and a spark/flame jumped about 18" from the back cover of my phone. Then thick white smoke (and a really acrid stink) started spewing from it. I don't know how, but I had the presence of mind to run across the room and yank the cord out of the computer so it wouldn't blow. By now, the phone was fully engulfed in flames so I flipped it onto the floor and threw a sweatshirt over it to smother it.
Again, I don't know where the presence of mind came from, but I realized I had irreplaceable pics on the sd card so I put my shoe on the phone and with a knife flipped the battery out, grabbed needlenose pliers off the shelf and pulled the card. (It was a little distorted from the heat but everything was still there...it's now functioning in the new phone!!!)
The phone itself was still so hot it left an imprint on the bottom of my sneaker, and (as you can see) the battery left a burn right in the middle of my living room carpet. Parts of the pT hardshell case fused to my shoe, the phone, and my desk. The battery was still too hot to touch, so I poured cold water on it. But BIG props to Gorilla glass...the screen did not shatter!!!
When I went to Sprint, they were SO freaked out (and hysterical laughing) the techs all came out and took pics, and my salesgirl gave me a brand new one with battery! (Don't wanna waste my upgrade until LTE hits L.A. in May).
So, Exploding Batteries are a real thing, kids. Beware.
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HTC Stock battery And not even using an SBC kernel! Pretty crazy stuff. You got me paranoid about plugging in any of my phones unattended now.
Good to hear you got things under control with the fire though and thankfully you were able to recover your SD Card
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HTC Stock battery And not even using an SBC kernel! Pretty crazy stuff. You got me paranoid about plugging in any of my phones unattended now.
Good to hear you got things under control with the fire though and thankfully you were able to recover your SD Card
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Pure dumb luck...had I not walked back into the room at that moment I'm sure my wood desk, laptop and god knows what else would've burned up. The fire was extremely hot. The battery stayed warm for an hour even after having cold water dumped on it.
Now, if I could just figure out how to get the acrid smell out of my place, I'd be happy. Burned Nag Champa all night and it barely helped...
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Pure dumb luck...had I not walked back into the room at that moment I'm sure my wood desk, laptop and god knows what else would've burned up. The fire was extremely hot. The battery stayed warm for an hour even after having cold water dumped on it.
Now, if I could just figure out how to get the acrid smell out of my place, I'd be happy. Burned Nag Champa all night and it barely helped...
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You left your evo on top of your car and drove off and it survived. Surprised it didn't survive a explosion this time
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You probably shouldn't be sniffing them fumes...
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You left your evo on top of your car and drove off and it survived. Surprised it didn't survive a explosion this time
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You and me both!! I thought I had a superphone...
And it was definitely not the phone that started the whole thing, but my original HTC battery.
Freaky
Man you were lucky on two fronts..
#1 nothing else burned
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#2 if you had been dealing with most other companies like Microshaft, they would have blamed it on the laptop maker and/or its faulty USB port and you'd still be going around in circles....
Kudos to Sprint for steeping up to the plate.
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You and me both!! I thought I had a superphone...
And it was definitely not the phone that started the whole thing, but my original HTC battery.
Freaky
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You are one lucky man for sure! Timing saved a lot this time around.
How old was the phone/battery? It can be rather impressive when a Li-ion battery decides to vent the polymer and burn. Been there, done that, have the t-shirt.... But not inside of a phone!!
Glad it all came out Ok. Good for Sprint for covering it.
Holy cow! The most surprising thing was that nag champa didn't help.
Glad you're safe and also your pics
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Wow. I was reading this with my phone in my hand, plugged in. For some reason, I got the urge to unplug it.
Glad all is safe for ya.
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Man you were lucky on two fronts..
#1 nothing else burned
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#2 if you had been dealing with most other companies like Microshaft, they would have blamed it on the laptop maker and/or its faulty USB port and you'd still be going around in circles....
Kudos to Sprint for steeping up to the plate.
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You are one lucky man for sure! Timing saved a lot this time around.
How old was the phone/battery? It can be rather impressive when a Li-ion battery decides to vent the polymer and burn. Been there, done that, have the t-shirt.... But not inside of a phone!!
Glad it all came out Ok. Good for Sprint for covering it.
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Holy cow! The most surprising thing was that nag champa didn't help.
Glad you're safe and also your pics
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Dev - agreed all the way around. My experience with Sprint the last 1.5 years has been nothing short of amazing, after almost 15 years on AT&T and Verizon (and all their precursors). Sprint never hesitates to step up and do the right thing.
Rab - Phone was about 6 months old and was a NEW (not refurb) replacement, including battery, for a refurb I got from a friend when my original OG went south (I walked in and they just swapped me...they didn't have any refurbs in stock and needed one!!). As I said, I have found Sprint corporate conduct to be quite remarkable in this day and age.
And yes, the fire was unbelievable. The amount of smoke coming from that small thing was incredible. And the heat coming off it shocking.
TT - My favorite smell!!! And I was shocked it didn't cover up the burn smell, but that's how bad it was.
Thanks, all. And remember ALWAYS WATCH YOUR PHONE WHEN CHARGING.
Yikes! I leave my phone to charge overnight and I've never had a problem, but I'm going to think that over again....
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Geez, my phone charges next to my pillow at night so I can listen to slacker radio. Guess I'll stop that ...
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Wow. I was reading this with my phone in my hand, plugged in. For some reason, I got the urge to unplug it.
Glad all is safe for ya.
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Same here lol
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lol im not gonna change my habits over but dayyuumm.
well atleast you got a shiney new phone i've dropped mine enough times i wouldnt mind that lol
Ok, that is an unreal story, but I don't think everyone needs to rethink how and when they charge their phone. There could be variables, like a bent pin in the connector, for example, that caused this anomaly to happen
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Wow. I was reading this with my phone in my hand, plugged in. For some reason, I got the urge to unplug it.
Glad all is safe for ya.
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Plus one for the phone plugged on...
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You left your evo on top of your car and drove off and it survived. Surprised it didn't survive a explosion this time
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I think I saw this thread. Didn't you say you thought the phone had been run over? That might have had something to do with it.
Yikes! Did Sprint techs give any guess why this happened? Defective battery?
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I think I saw this thread. Didn't you say you thought the phone had been run over? That might have had something to do with it.
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I thought it might have been run over, but the Sprint tech said no way. The only impact it took was hitting the ground and the case took the hit. They bench-checked the phone and gave me an all-clear.
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Yikes! Did Sprint techs give any guess why this happened? Defective battery?
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Defective battery was their best guess. The battery was definitely the root cause. No bent pins, or any other [obvious] anomaly. That's not to say the 2 incidents were unrelated, but the phone worked perfectly for 9 days before this happened and wasn't ever even warm when charging.
I went to the beach today and put my phone in my shoes on some rocks near the water (yes I know, very stupid mistake) . A huge wave came and knocked my shoes along with the phone into the water. My phone was literwlly floating in the water for about 5 seconds. At that point I didn't care about anything else, and ran and scooped it out and ran to dry it with my shirt. I took out the battery, sim and sd card and left it for half an hour. Despite what just happened, it turned on, with still fully functioning touch, no water in the screen, just about everything works, except a major issue of the speakerphone and mic. But i tested it with headphone and hands free and it is working. Other than this issue, which IS a major issue, i am just amazed that it is still functioning 95% properly.
Does anyone know what I could do to fix the speakerphone and mic? Can I fix it myself by opening it up, or should I just send it to Samsung? Would they figure out its water damaged, and not fix it? Or would they fix it, but for a cost?
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Try to put it in to the rice for 20-30 hours
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Yeah I know about this trick. But that's usually if the phone doesnt turn on, or its going haywire which is not the case for me. Would it fix the speakerphone and mic?
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I guess it's kinda late but I would suggest that you keep it off with battery, and sim and sd card out for much more than 30 minutes. Let's say overnight at a dry and warm environment.
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But that's usually if the phone doesnt turn on
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It might help with many things. It helps me with mic and touch on my galaxy s two years ago. Screen was working and buttons too but touch did not respond and speaker was a half silent. After this rice procedure everything was fine.
You can bay Spare parts
I have changed my usb print-port, and i thing you can get trubble with charger, going beeb, beeb. showing your phone is on charger when not. Spare parts are cheap on ebay. I would get
"OEM Charger Port Micro USB Connector Mic Flex Cable Samsung Galaxy Note N7000" and
"Samsung Galaxy Note jack conn. flex with speaker"
You can get both parts for 28 US $. And your Note will be good as new. the usb port contains new mic.
If you are handy the note is a frendly phone to service.
There should be Youtube videos out there by now.
Last year in sommer i have a similar problemm with you. I have let my phone without batterie in my balconie in a shadow place for 2 days after that it works again. Outside temperatur was 30-40 C°. Give it i try if no one else have a better idee
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Try to put it in to the rice for 20-30 hours
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myth..doesnt work... and for those who will disagree...please tell me how the rice cleans the corrosion that occurs when water hits the board when it is on..and i guarantee that happens.... all rice does is get dust in the ports... if it is not touching the liquid then it is not absorbing it any faster than it is already evaporating on its own... a fan will do 100 times better than rice... moving air=faster evaporation. then after its dry it needs to be cleaned and treated so the corrosion does not come back..
it needs to be cleaned and treated by a professional that knows what they are doing and has the right tools and chemicals...
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Yeah I know about this trick. But that's usually if the phone doesnt turn on, or its going haywire which is not the case for me. Would it fix the speakerphone and mic?
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no it wont...
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I guess it's kinda late but I would suggest that you keep it off with battery, and sim and sd card out for much more than 30 minutes. Let's say overnight at a dry and warm environment.
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smart advice
@dr. xp55 pm me and ill help you out getting this working again the proper way...
Thanks guys, I'll try all these ways. Hopefully it will be in working order by the end of the weekend.
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@dr. xp55 pm me and ill help you out getting this working again the proper way...
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Thanks, I've sent you a PM
The rice treatment is not a myth. When treated quick enough (same day, day after tops), the rice absorbs the moisture out of the device, and prevents corrosion from developing. Why does it work better than just leaving the device out in the open? the air around you has moisture, sticking it in rice creates a much dryer environment, so water dry up faster, and moisture get sucked out faster. A fan is moving air, but air with moisture in it. Unless you're in a desert. So, either rice or hair dryer on low heat setting and very carefully.
If it already has corrosion, nothing can really help.
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myth..doesnt work...
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This "myth" helps me to fix my Galaxy S after water.
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The rice treatment is not a myth. When treated quick enough (same day, day after tops), the rice absorbs the moisture out of the device, and prevents corrosion from developing. Why does it work better than just leaving the device out in the open? the air around you has moisture, sticking it in rice creates a much dryer environment, so water dry up faster, and moisture get sucked out faster. A fan is moving air, but air with moisture in it. Unless you're in a desert. So, either rice or hair dryer on low heat setting and very carefully.
If it already has corrosion, nothing can really help.
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is a MYTH and if you would like to argue im glad to in pm... as for the corrosion... if the phone was on when it got wet it has corrosion...100% guarantee so your whole point is moot... and again if the rice isnt touching the liquid it is not absorbing it hence it is evaporating at the same rate bottom line.... and since you want to try to debunk the fan...well the fan creates friction and the friction will promote faster evaporation whether the air has moisture or not... there is a difference between humidity and large areas of liquid... so again rice DOES NOT WORK... i work on these things for a living so i think i may know a thing or two about this...
im trying to help people save their phones so dont think im trying to stop diy... im just trying to show you a better way that actually works and is scientifically proven...
btw how long have you been working on phones??? just curious on your background... and please feel free to keep on using your rice.. even if your phone starts to work again... it wont be long till the corrosion catches up and your phone wont be working... your call because again i dont care what you do... im trying to help others that want help and good advice..not idiots that want to argue...
lastly if it has corrosion..i can make it work again.. i do it daily and make a nice living at it.. so i really dont think you should be giving advice on this since you say there is no hope if there is corrosion... sorry but it is what it is..
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This "myth" helps me to fix my Galaxy S after water.
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im sure it did... and i hope it makes you feel better believing that it did.... taking the battery out and letting it dry on its own would have done the same thing... either it didnt get anything wet that was electrical or it is just a matter of time before the corrosion catches up...
again just trying to help and again if you want to argue pm me...
The rice thing does work, although people misunderstand its purpose... It won't do a thing if your phone was damaged. It simply helps to take the water out of phone's chassis etc. - if it already touched the board and damaged the circuits, it won't do anything. Anyway, best to use silica-gel or at least salt crystals as they work ten times more effectively.
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The rice thing does work, although people misunderstand its purpose... It won't do a thing if your phone was damaged. It simply helps to take the water out of phone's chassis etc. - if it already touched the board and damaged the circuits, it won't do anything. Anyway, best to use silica-gel or at least salt crystals as they work ten times more effectively.
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again it does not help... IF THE PHONE WAS ON WHEN IT GOT WET, IT GOT DAMAGED SOMEHOW..THERE WILL BE CORROSION SOMEWHERE... I GUARANTEE IT... if the rice is not touching the liquid then it is not absorbing it... unless you take the whole phone apart and i mean the heat shields and all and then immerse the phone in the rice it is not absorbing... and if you went to all of that trouble then rice is not necessary...
this is to all others who doubt my reasoning... please tell your # of years experience working on phones and your training....
again im not trying to argue im trying to help you save your phones when they get wet and for them to still be working a year or so later...
i prove it daily when customers bring in their phones to my shop in bags of rice that have been in there for weeks and still nothing... i do my method and they work... proof enough for me and my customers...
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again it does not help
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It does help
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again it does not help... IF THE PHONE WAS ON WHEN IT GOT WET, IT GOT DAMAGED SOMEHOW..THERE WILL BE CORROSION SOMEWHERE... I GUARANTEE IT... if the rice is not touching the liquid then it is not absorbing it... unless you take the whole phone apart and i mean the heat shields and all and then immerse the phone in the rice it is not absorbing... and if you went to all of that trouble then rice is not necessary...
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Have you even read my post, or just the first sentence ? It doesn't matter if the phone was ON or OFF. If water got through the case and touched the board while the battery was in - it's most likely fried, and even a ton of rice won't help.
If water never touched the board and got only on the case, or between the case, then it might help - not fix the phone, simply absorb the water from the case, so it won't pour on the board.
Anyway, it doesn't matter. Don't put it in rice... putting it in rice is the method for people who don't want to take their phone apart - but know what ? If you wet your phone, your warranty is void anyway, believe me - service will know what happened. Just take your phone apart as soon as possible, let it dry, and pray that water didn't reach the internals...
You probably want to wash the device's internal with really strong alcohol....the salt in the sea water is not good for the device....
I just don't get why the hell are people arguing over this? I don't care if it's a myth or not, if it works for you then good, if not, go find some other way around. Putting each other down won't change anything, neither the facts nor the opinions. Relax guys!?
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Quite right. Kawgirlval - perhaps just saying it once and not being quite so aggressive might get people to listen more. There are ways and ways.....
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ya and i do get that and even state im not looking to argue...
im done here i could care less if people soak it in windex... whatever floats your boats...
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We all value the views of people who know more than us. Just no one likes being lectured. Keep it civil and I'm sure you have a huge amount of experience to offer us all.
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Well, hi there, nice people of the XDA forums,
I have been using my shiny new Z1 for a month now and here's my opinion on it. It is awesome. Good battery life, beautiful screen and build coming from a Xperia V user.
I've loved every second of using it after i got used to its large form.
Sadly, my Z1 has now been returned to the service centre since I bent it. I got to admit, when I first saw people posting images of their bent Z1s and saying that no external forces were imposed on the device, I was like "which dumb guy will believe that a phone made of aluminium would magically bend itself?", but after 1 month, unfortunately, I realised my Z1 was bent horizontally above the power button. It was hard to notice at first as I had it in a roxfit gel shell, I think that's what it is called, but when I removed the case, I had a huge shock.
Later that day, I sent my Z1 to my local Sony centre, I live in Singapore, and apparently, there have been many cases of this happening here but the lady was reluctant to tell me if the damages could be covered warranty.
So, here I am, writing this post to remind my fellow Z1 lovers to never ever ever put you phone in a region that is really tight and moves a lot, for example the pockets on your jeans, as you may come to regret it.
P.S. I'm just posting my experience with it so far, if I am on the wrong section, feel free to yell and get a mod to move it.
P.S.S I'll update this as the service centre gets back to me.
Timeline:
23/1/14 - Day 1 - Sent Z1 to service centre.
25/1/14 - Day 3 - Received email that service centre has started repairs
20/2/14 - Day 28 - Finally, after a lot of emails between me and Sony and even longer waiting time for emails, Sony has finally got back to me.
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I'm using my Z1 for a month now and no bent phone, nothing, I'm using it with no case amd in my jeans with that protective thing on my glass
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strange that most people with bend phone where putting cases while ppl who go naked are straight !
Do you happened to have any pictures?
ashouhdy said:
while ppl who go naked are straight !
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Are you sure :sly:
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Well I'm straight, so this makes sense now
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did op say he bent his phone?
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This cant be life
Yea I bent my phone. Sorry. I don't have pictures. But imagine a arc S's curve. But on a z1. Also, I have to assume its because we have cases on our phone so we tend to disregard minor bumps and such even though they hurt the fragile device.
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Aaron_035 said:
Yea I bent my phone. Sorry. I don't have pictures. But imagine a arc S's curve. But on a z1. Also, I have to assume its because we have cases on our phone so we tend to disregard minor bumps and such even though they hurt the fragile device.
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isnt that cool ? i mean u now have the LG G Flex from SONY
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isnt that cool ? i mean u now have the LG G Flex from SONY
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Well. Not really. I freaked out. I meant, yea. I know I shouldn't have put it in my pocket and ran up and down stairs with it but every other phone I have, have survived that so I was a little disappointed.
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Well. Not really. I freaked out. I meant, yea. I know I shouldn't have put it in my pocket and ran up and down stairs with it but every other phone I have, have survived that so I was a little disappointed.
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Not every ... I had broken galaxy note in my front pocket jeans screen into pieces while sitting.
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Are you sure :sly:
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Atleast they are clear with their needs !
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ashouhdy said:
Not every ... I had broken galaxy note in my front pocket jeans screen into pieces while sitting.
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Atleast they are clear with their needs !
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I've neen through quite a few phones, a W595, W995, iPhone 3G (unfortunately), a Galaxy S2 (also unfortunate), arc, arc s, V, then finally my Z1.
And ironically, I've only sustained serious damage in the last 2 phones, ie, the V's flaps coming off and, of course, my z1 bending. Funny how as time passes, their life spans decrease.
Day 4 Update - 26/1/14
Well Sony finally got back to me to tell me:
1. Frame bending is nor under warranty
2. I have to replace the screen
3. It will cost me SGD$405 or USD$320
Being the broke student I am, I'll probably sell my z! then buy a nexus 5.
Seriously the crappiest warranty coverage ever.
After a long long time with Sony, this has been a major bite in the ass.
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Seriously the crappiest warranty coverage ever.
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Well to be fair, I'm pretty sure the warranty covers manufacturer faults, not the user making a fault. If I drop my phone and kill it, why should the manufacturer cover the costs? Trouble is when the person honestly hasn't damaged it through their own fault, in which case proving to the manufacturer you haven't is pretty much impossible. Unless you wear a GoPro all the time or something.
You would be looking for insurance cover, or some kind of extended warranty/protection that covers user inflicted damages.
Either way, I'm careful with my Z1 in my pocket now, especially when sitting down
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Well to be fair, I'm pretty sure the warranty covers manufacturer faults, not the user making a fault. If I drop my phone and kill it, why should the manufacturer cover the costs? Trouble is when the person honestly hasn't damaged it through their own fault, in which case proving to the manufacturer you haven't is pretty much impossible. Unless you wear a GoPro all the time or something.
You would be looking for insurance cover, or some kind of extended warranty/protection that covers user inflicted damages.
Either way, I'm careful with my Z1 in my pocket now, especially when sitting down
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I guess that's that then. Nothing much I can do about it other than be furious and then cry myself to sleep.
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be furious and then cry myself to sleep.
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On a serious note, it sucks bigtime, man. At least it seems like the phone still works, going by what you said in the first post. May not be waterproof now, but still.
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On a serious note, it sucks bigtime, man. At least it seems like the phone still works, going by what you said in the first post. May not be waterproof now, but still.
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It still works. By my calculations, I cant afford a nexus 5 even if i sold the z1 at half the retail price, which means I'm stuck with a banana phone for 11 months. Guess I'll just put a book on it or something until the phone returns to the normal shape or until the screen shatters.
Will update. :/
i don't know what to say... this bending thing is wierd...
i bought my z1 from singapore over ebay and i have it for two month now. i keep it in my jeans front pocket the whole day, sometimes i have my GF sit on my lap and on the phone and it's still straight as an arrow... i have a soft tpu case protecting it...
i don't think physical pressure is at fault here, must be either overheating or manufacturing fault...
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i don't think physical pressure is at fault here, must be either overheating or manufacturing fault...
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Overheating would be a very strange one though, I would expect issues with the glass splitting like with the XZ before the aluminium frame warping. The phones get hot, but not that hot. If it was getting hot to the point it may soften and warp, you would probably have cooked the battery and the CPU/GPU as well. Not to mention it could take time for it to warp.
I know someone who had an Xperia S, and they would hear it crack every so often when they would sit down, or bend their leg. No damage to it, but obviously something wasn't liking the pressure. Meanwhile I had an XS, never heard it make noises like that. But then I always have loose pockets, whereas my mates phone was wedged into his pocket, tight as.
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Overheating would be a very strange one though, I would expect issues with the glass splitting like with the XZ before the aluminium frame warping. The phones get hot, but not that hot. If it was getting hot to the point it may soften and warp, you would probably have cooked the battery and the CPU/GPU as well. Not to mention it could take time for it to warp.
I know someone who had an Xperia S, and they would hear it crack every so often when they would sit down, or bend their leg. No damage to it, but obviously something wasn't liking the pressure. Meanwhile I had an XS, never heard it make noises like that. But then I always have loose pockets, whereas my mates phone was wedged into his pocket, tight as.
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net nessecerly... if the aluminum frame is made by chipping it can be made is a bad way causing internal forces inside the aluminum, these forces need not 500 degrees to alter it's shape, i'm not talking about the frame melting.
just a small temperature, 50-60 degrees is enough to give the frame the energy it takes to relive these internal forces and bend itself...
this is why i said manufacturing fault, because if some of the frames were made in one factory which did the chipping wrong and others in another which did it right it can explain why some devices bend and some don't. and it has nothing to do with external pressure...
if you want to google go for "strain tensor"
Just send in my z1 for water damage after going to the pool 2 days back.. Had no idea how can water went to Sim port and micro SD port when I'm using casemate tough dual layer protective case.. And there's small water droplets around the camera lens..
Still not sure will they honor the warranty or gonna push the blame to me.. Will only know the outcome tomorrow..
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Same thing happened to me today, but now the phone working fine, let's see how's it will do this week, camera button also is pressing itself sometimes without me touching it.
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jancarlos1597 said:
Same thing happened to me today, but now the phone working fine, let's see how's it will do this week, camera button also is pressing itself sometimes without me touching it.
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Yup.. My camera also auto starting randomly and at times it's just keep starting in a loop till i have to freeze camera apps using TB.. Anyway why dont you send back in and try claiming for warranty?
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Yup.. My camera also auto starting randomly and at times it's just keep starting in a loop till i have to freeze camera apps using TB.. Anyway why dont you send back in and try claiming for warranty?
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Because i bought it from a guy, but if the problem still this week, i will go with the guy that a bought it and claim the warranty.
I didn't freeze the camera app, i only disable button launch on options.
Lets see how the phone do this week.
I went to the service centre at junction 8 after dropping my z1 in the pool. When they ask you about water just denie everything
Got my entire pcb board replaced and my warranty still stands.
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I went to the service centre at junction 8 after dropping my z1 in the pool. When they ask you about water just denie everything
Got my entire pcb board replaced and my warranty still stands.
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Does your imei still retains after changing the whole pcb?
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Now the phone is auto-pressing the power button :\
At the end of this week i whink i will claim the warranty.
jancarlos1597 said:
Now the phone is auto-pressing the power button :\
At the end of this week i whink i will claim the warranty.
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Well I guess many z1 have manufacturing defects.. It's almost impossible for an ip58 rating device to come in contact with water despite all ports had been covered properly..
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Well I guess many z1 have manufacturing defects.. It's almost impossible for an ip58 rating device to come in contact with water despite all ports had been covered properly..
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Tomorrow i will go to claim the warranty, is anoying, i can't use the phone at all...
All I can say about my Z1 is that it's honestly been the best phone I've ever had. The screen is good, camera is great, build quality is amazing. I haven't had any problems with it.
Some Z1's do leak but mine has been great. I was taking pictures in a pool and I dropped it, it went to the bottom (deeper than what its rated at) and its fine.
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Well I guess many z1 have manufacturing defects.. It's almost impossible for an ip58 rating device to come in contact with water despite all ports had been covered properly..
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never actually tried with either the Z1 or the Z in water yet, now I don't think I will... at least not with the Z1
by the way, are you Cantonese bud?
This is my water travel, after one Day Phone is alive but screen is... everyone See :/
IT is possible to fix that? Clean inside screen?
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Does your imei still retains after changing the whole pcb?
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New imei given with the number on the job status form.
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Wow. Seems like this phone isn't that waterproof. At least they fix it for free.
To the people who have water damage: Do you open and close the USB cover frequently? Or do you use a dock? The cover might have just gotten loose.
That is weird I was in Mexico and went in the ocean and pool with it and no problems
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This is my water travel, after one Day Phone is alive but screen is... everyone See :/
IT is possible to fix that? Clean inside screen?
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Prolly need to open the screen. Seems like water went in between the screen and digitizer... Anyways at first look it looked like a theme. Had to stare for a few seconds before I could see the fault.
I think that bending is a big contributing part of the water damage. I have had mine in a fair bit of water, reasonably deep, say 1m max, for most of it I had no problems... But I bent it ever so slightly (0.25mm) somehow (check out how many complaints are about z1's bending, the alum. bends on drops, and slight pressure) and because of that water got in (not into sim slots etc)... Anywho, it fixed up shortly after, and I did bend it back the other way so it was straight again, and shortly after checked the waterproofness, to find that it was watertight again (very slight pressure to bend it back, the alum. is sooo malleable) ... and now it's just died, permanently, because it's bent again(it once again is bent about 0.25mm) it will still boot if i apply pressure to it, so presumably it's some kind of power connector which has broken solder or something. It's a real shame because otherwise the phone is great, they just bend so easily, heaps of threads on the net about it if you guys aren't aware, which means it's not sealed properly.
I've never broken a phone before, I'm very careful, borderline paranoid about the way I treat my phones.
my friend get fog on camera after using many time.
but still working on until now.
n my z1 not yet go to pool but i have many time wash it.
Personally I see this water proofing as just another level of insurance for when I use my phone around water,
I don't plan on using it in the water. Its sad in a way because I have other water proof devices (watches, Canon D1) and use them all the time in the water with out any fear. I guess a cell is more important to me so i just rather not take the risk even with the IP58 certification.
It is a bit frustrating I am sure for many people who bought the phone and planned on using it in the water as advertised by Sony and are now having problems.
I had a Otterbox Armor which was water proof for my Samsung S3 but I also never actually took it in the water it was more just insurance.
I got the Z1 knowing i would be around water and wanted to keep the phone slim but still protected in-case it gets splashed.
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never actually tried with either the Z1 or the Z in water yet, now I don't think I will... at least not with the Z1
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Yes.. I'm Cantonese.. Can tell from my surname.. [emoji14]
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My original M8 suffered from the infamous cloudy camera. I got it replaced by T-Mobile, and it's been maybe three months now and the replacement M8 did the same. My buddies M8 started to do the same thing about a month ago, and he used Zaino Wax to buff out the camera cloudyness away.
I noticed yesterday that mine was doing the same thing again when I tried to take a picture and it wasn't focusing. Tried to clean it, and at first I just thought it was dirty. Picture wasn't important, so I ignored it. Then last night I went to get a drink with a buddy of mine, and tried to take a picture, and the camera wasn't focusing. Tried to clean it again, and that's when I noticed the cloudy camera again.
So I woke up this morning, found some turtle wax, put some on a terry cloth, rubbed a little on the lens, let it dry for a couple of minutes, and then buffed it off. Sure enough, it started to take some of the cloudyness away. So I did it again about three more times, and now the cloudyness is down to the edges. I was excited that it worked, that I ran over to my laptop to make this thread.
I was thinking about getting another replacement, but this is a better alternative for me. I don't want to be setting up my phone all over again every few months for the same issue.
This is what I used.
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I found the Mr. Clean Magic eraser to work very well too. I actually prefer the eraser because there is no risk of water getting under the lens. You squeeze it all out before rubbing
Toothpaste works too. I just put a dab on the end of my finger and rubbed the lens in a circular motion for a bit. Cleared up all but the edges which don't seem to bother anything. My guess is if I used a Q-Tip instead of my fat finger I could get the edges clean too.
I had the same problem and I used toothpaste. But my concern is whether we have rubbed off the anti glare coating?
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I had the same problem and I used toothpaste. But my concern is whether we have rubbed off the anti glare coating?
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I followed a guide and used a tiny amount of Brasso on the end of a cotton bud, it's like the phone's brand new again. Like you, I'm concerned I've removed something which should be there but the camera was unusable prior to doing this. Mine was bought in April, has been in a case, screen protector applied since day 1, handled with constant, real care but the scratches on the lens were something else!
Pictures of the lens pre clean here and also 3 very quick shots from the phone pre and 3 post clean... Was in a rush so had no artistic quality to them whatsoever!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157645558003205/
HTC recognise this is a real issue and are taking devices in for repair. Mine is being collected today. I'll let ya know what they do to fix this when I get it back
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HTC recognise this is a real issue and are taking devices in for repair. Mine is being collected today. I'll let ya know what they do to fix this when I get it back
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Wasn't aware of that to be honest but thanks for the update, what did they say to you regarding this issue specifically?
Cheers...
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Wasn't aware of that to be honest but thanks for the update, what did they say to you regarding this issue specifically?
Cheers...
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I said that the coating on the lens was rubbing off and there is a lot of discussion online about it, so its not just mine. The HTC rep said "yeah we know, we had a meeting about it today, just send it in and we'll take care of it". I asked what the coating was, olephobic? He said he wouldn't say and wouldn't comment on what the course of action is. I thought, ok, as long as you fix it I thats all that matters.
I guess they will replace the lens glass with something other that what came out of the factory. No point in putting the same thing back on there. He probably couldn't comment as this will effect every single One M8 which means they would all have to be recalled. Expensive!
i am struggling with same issue and looking for some solutions.. this morning i tried toothpaste but i didn't like the results too much
i will give a shot with following this directions, tonigh
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flayzeraynx said:
i am struggling with same issue and looking for some solutions.. this morning i tried toothpaste but i didn't like the results too much
i will give a shot with following this directions, tonigh
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That's the video I watched and got the idea from prior to doing mine.So far... so good but it's only been a day, see how the lens holds up after prolonged "quick rub before the shot" with shirts, jumpers, sleeves, all the normal day to day stuff.
You've got to be kidding me.
After the M7 camera fiasco, they allowed this to happen?
My wife just got hers last week, and it's having reboot and connectivity issues (completely stock, unrooted)
I'm going to have her exchange it for the S5, I'm done with HTC's idiocy.
Great! Thanks for the fix. I just tested out the wax thing and it worked perfectly !
Toothpaste is the best solution, I tried and is like new!
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ingenious247 said:
You've got to be kidding me.
After the M7 camera fiasco, they allowed this to happen?
My wife just got hers last week, and it's having reboot and connectivity issues (completely stock, unrooted)
I'm going to have her exchange it for the S5, I'm done with HTC's idiocy.
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To each their own. But it's hardly idiocy. It's simply a minor design issue. Mine has scratches on and focuses and shoots perfectly fine.
As for reboots and connectivity issues, these are things any manufacturer can have, but I wouldn't take the bandaid phone over a HTC One even if the HTC One had no camera at all.
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To each their own. But it's hardly idiocy. It's simply a minor design issue. Mine has scratches on and focuses and shoots perfectly fine.
As for reboots and connectivity issues, these are things any manufacturer can have, but I wouldn't take the bandaid phone over a HTC One even if the HTC One had no camera at all.
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The Purple/Pink tint issue was the likely BIGGEST camera fiasco the mobile industry has ever seen, and it cost HTC tons of money and hurt their reputation badly. You can find countless threads here and elsewhere about it
And then they completely drop the ball on the NEW phone and allow another camera issue?? If it were a "minor" issue, they wouldn't be taking them back for repair no questions asked.
It's obviously a widespread debacle, and not only that - they should have listened to the previous One (M7) owners as they had an issue with the CHEAP camera glass cover on the M7 which cracked for NO reason at all and was easily scratched.
Choosing to ignore that issue and causing themselves another heartache on their flagship phone is idiocy IMO. What would you call it?
What if i cant that in my area do i can use my own
Just kidding mate :good::good: Thanks for the idea
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I said that the coating on the lens was rubbing off and there is a lot of discussion online about it, so its not just mine. The HTC rep said "yeah we know, we had a meeting about it today, just send it in and we'll take care of it". I asked what the coating was, olephobic? He said he wouldn't say and wouldn't comment on what the course of action is. I thought, ok, as long as you fix it I thats all that matters.
I guess they will replace the lens glass with something other that what came out of the factory. No point in putting the same thing back on there. He probably couldn't comment as this will effect every single One M8 which means they would all have to be recalled. Expensive!
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How did your repair go? Ironically I should have just looked on here. I had noticed this same scratched camera coating though my phone has been in a case since Day 1, is always in a pocket with no other items and I never place it on tables, etc. The chat guy says that cosmetic is typically not covered but in this case we'll cover it. I ship my phone and get an email two days later that the repair will cost $300 if I want the camera fixed. Or I can choose not to fix it but will have to pay administrative costs? Ugh.. would have not bothered if the chat guy hadn't literally said most cosmetic is not covered but we will cover this repair. Plus of course I've been without a phone for a week now but would have not bothered if it's gonna end up costing me $40. Poor form HTC..
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How did your repair go? Ironically I should have just looked on here. I had noticed this same scratched camera coating though my phone has been in a case since Day 1, is always in a pocket with no other items and I never place it on tables, etc. The chat guy says that cosmetic is typically not covered but in this case we'll cover it. I ship my phone and get an email two days later that the repair will cost $300 if I want the camera fixed. Or I can choose not to fix it but will have to pay administrative costs? Ugh.. would have not bothered if the chat guy hadn't literally said most cosmetic is not covered but we will cover this repair. Plus of course I've been without a phone for a week now but would have not bothered if it's gonna end up costing me $40. Poor form HTC..
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If you call and complain and talk to a supervisor they will do it for free and expedite.
flayzeraynx said:
i am struggling with same issue and looking for some solutions.. this morning i tried toothpaste but i didn't like the results too much
i will give a shot with following this directions, tonigh
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Try with a pencil eraser..
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ingenious247 said:
You've got to be kidding me.
After the M7 camera fiasco, they allowed this to happen?
My wife just got hers last week, and it's having reboot and connectivity issues (completely stock, unrooted)
I'm going to have her exchange it for the S5, I'm done with HTC's idiocy.
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Auto reboot and connectivity issue?
I use until now never face either.