Confusion regarding 4.3 Bootloaders on SG4 - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

My S4 has the original firmware (MDL) and I have since installed a custom recovery (the loki method). I am now running GoldenEye 4.3, which is based off the Internation S4. I love it. I love what my phone can do. Anyway, I downloaded triangle away and it says the binary is official and the counter is 0. I did not see Samsung Knox Warranty 0x0 or 0x1 anywhere. Would I have this if I did the original OTA update to 4.3 from AT&T? I'm guessing its best never to upgrade and stay far away from the knox crap. So much for the Galaxy S5 then. ):
Why did Samsung ever have to implement the Knox 0x0 crap? If its so important to them voiding people's warranties, then why didn't they originally do it when the S4 launched?
As of right now, is my bootloader knox free, since I have a 4.3 rom on it? Would triangle away work if I ever needed to send it in?
Why is there a different root method or custom recovery for each firmware version on the i337?

MattMJB0188 said:
My S4 has the original firmware (MDL) and I have since installed a custom recovery (the loki method). I am now running GoldenEye 4.3, which is based off the Internation S4. I love it. I love what my phone can do. Anyway, I downloaded triangle away and it says the binary is official and the counter is 0. I did not see Samsung Knox Warranty 0x0 or 0x1 anywhere. Would I have this if I did the original OTA update to 4.3 from AT&T?
....With pushed OTA the Bootloader would add a Knox warranty flag to the download mode screen.
I'm guessing its best never to upgrade and stay far away from the knox crap. So much for the Galaxy S5 then. ):
Why did Samsung ever have to implement the Knox 0x0 crap?
....Military, Govt. & Corporate sales. The consumer warranty part is just gravy for them.
If its so important to them voiding people's warranties, then why didn't they originally do it when the S4 launched?
As of right now, is my bootloader knox free, since I have a 4.3 rom on it? Would triangle away work if I ever needed to send it in?
....Afaik no. Recent postings indicate it's not 4.3 compatible. Check your. ROM thread for Knox status.
Why is there a different root method or custom recovery for each firmware version on the i337?
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...Not the firmware as much as model specific differences force incompatability where it exists.
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pc103 said:
...Not the firmware as much as model specific differences force incompatability where it exists.
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So, not every S4 will have the knox counter?

MattMJB0188 said:
So, not every S4 will have the knox counter?
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For the record: Triangle Away is not compatible with any locked bootloader and I don't believe it resets KNOX yet anyways. I think that if you have loki exploit you can use it, but I'm not entirely sure. It's only for the flash counter anyways.
The reason root and recovery methods are different is because with each new firmware Samsung patches the old security flaws that let us have root and recovery in the first place. I don't know if that's at their discretion or at the carrier's request (the locked bootloaders are at carrier request and Samsung must update the security on them to protect their business interests).
Not every S4 gets the KNOX counter, only those with the bootloader from the 4.3 update.

DeadlySin9 said:
For the record: Triangle Away is not compatible with any locked bootloader and I don't believe it resets KNOX yet anyways. I think that if you have loki exploit you can use it, but I'm not entirely sure. It's only for the flash counter anyways.
The reason root and recovery methods are different is because with each new firmware Samsung patches the old security flaws that let us have root and recovery in the first place. I don't know if that's at their discretion or at the carrier's request (the locked bootloaders are at carrier request and Samsung must update the security on them to protect their business interests).
Not every S4 gets the KNOX counter, only those with the bootloader from the 4.3 update.
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So when the AT&T S4 received its official OTA update from AT&T, did it include knox?

MattMJB0188 said:
So when the AT&T S4 received its official OTA update from AT&T, did it include knox?
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It did. With the warranty bit newly added.
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pc103 said:
It did. With the warranty bit newly added.
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Wow. What a shame. It looks like they are doing everything to stop custom roms and root. After the loki method, it got really hard. Seems like more devices would be bricked now, than they would before.
I am wondering why they are cracking down so much now. The AT&T Galaxy S2 (i777) and S3 had unlocked bootloaders and huge development communities.

+1 now many are thinking of ditching their carriers & mfr in favor of costlier, but mod friendlier alternatives truer to Android's progressive core concept.
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pc103 said:
+1 now many are thinking of ditching their carriers & mfr in favor of costlier, but mod friendlier alternatives truer to Android's progressive core concept.
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Yeah, but its still never the same with another carrier's device. For example, I used the T-Mobile Note 3 on AT&T and the experience was not so great. Sure, I had custom recovery and root, but it had that knox warranty thing. It also struggled tremendously holding onto an LTE signal. The overall signal was poor.
Purchasing the international S4 comes with the trade off of loosing LTE. I am hoping with the S5, Samsung includes all major LTE bands with it, so those of us who want to modify our devices can get AT&T LTE.

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[Q] No ROM support for N900 (Exynos) at all?

I made the mistake of rooting my N900, thus tripping knox. Now I can't update the phone nor the Gear watch that comes with it (the gear can be updated through it's app but not tripping new updates unless the phone is up to date as well..).
There is virtually zero XDA support and activity for the Exynos N900.
If you're an owner of one, don't root or do anything XDAish until activity starts popping up.
I am currently on N900XXUBMJ1
Can I update using Odin and downloading a firmware from Sammobile, if yes, whats the procedure to undertake for the update?
Blagoja D. said:
I made the mistake of rooting my N900, thus tripping knox. Now I can't update the phone nor the Gear watch that comes with it (the gear can be updated through it's app but not tripping new updates unless the phone is up to date as well..).
There is virtually zero XDA support and activity for the Exynos N900.
If you're an owner of one, don't root or do anything XDAish until activity starts popping up.
I am currently on N900XXUBMJ1
Can I update using Odin and downloading a firmware from Sammobile, if yes, whats the procedure to undertake for the update?
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yes you can update with odin it will unroot the phone
i thought n900 did not have knox
if you want roms they are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/galaxy-note-3-exynos-android-development
Yeah it doesn't, it has something called warranty bit that was added in the last update and basically makes it our knox version but ours is for sure a software add on and not something more complicated like the S800 knox
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Im pretty sure there's an exynos forum with a few roms. A few of them are even mj7. Root is the best thing you can do to your phone. Ive owen s3 s4 and now note 3. Never used the warranty once and rootes them all. And had them very modded. With kernels effects themes etc. Everybody on this forum is like I need my warranty etc. I dont get it

[Q] How To Root My Galaxy Note 3?

I just got the Galaxy Note 3 & Gear bundle on contract today through TelecomNZ. My contract was up for a renewal & the Galaxy S5 didn't seem to have any real advantage of the Note 3 so alas I didn't bother to wait.
Now however I am at a standstill...I would really like to root my device as soon as possible. I don't want custom firmware & would like to keep the stock so if there are official updates I can get them. Can anyone assist me please with a step by step to rooting my Note 3 preferably without tripping the Knox counter that I have just recently only found out about thus voiding my warranty. I don't want to void the warranty but I would like root so I can use Titanium Backup so if anyone can please provide me with a step by step to safely rooting my device I will be so appreciative for it.
Here are some details about my phone...
Model Number: SM-N9005
Baseband: N9005XXUDMJ7
Build Number: JSS15J.N9005XXUDMJ7
FHL09 said:
I just got the Galaxy Note 3 & Gear bundle on contract today through TelecomNZ. My contract was up for a renewal & the Galaxy S5 didn't seem to have any real advantage of the Note 3 so alas I didn't bother to wait.
Now however I am at a standstill...I would really like to root my device as soon as possible. I don't want custom firmware & would like to keep the stock so if there are official updates I can get them. Can anyone assist me please with a step by step to rooting my Note 3 preferably without tripping the Knox counter that I have just recently only found out about thus voiding my warranty. I don't want to void the warranty but I would like root so I can use Titanium Backup so if anyone can please provide me with a step by step to safely rooting my device I will be so appreciative for it.
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Here are some details about my phone...
Model Number: SM-N9005
Baseband: N9005XXUDMJ7
Build Number: JSS15J.N9005XXUDMJ7
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without tripping KNOX for warranty ? no way Yours is the new bootloader for 4.3, therefore there are no rooting method which is KNOX friendly so far.
antique_sonic said:
without tripping KNOX for warranty ? no way Yours is the new bootloader for 4.3, therefore there are no rooting method which is KNOX friendly so far.
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Okay in that case if I use CF-Root thus voiding my warranty will I risk losing anything else. I had an S3 for 2 years and sheer stupidity resulted in a cracked screen however that was the only time I had to use my warranty so essentially warranty shouldn't concern me but I don't want to trip this Knox counter and lose key features just for root which is all I really want. I don't plan on custom firmware flashing or anything so my OTA should still work via KIES right?
Just crossing the T's and dotting the I's before I possibly ruin a good thing.
Before you root make some checks. If your hardware is OK. Download from market multitouch app to see if your screen passes the 10 fingers test. It's really important. Then stress a bit your phone hardware wise and see if everything runs fine and no defects show up. If everything is OK then trip knox and be happy.
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testadeferro said:
Before you root make some checks. If your hardware is OK. Download from market multitouch app to see if your screen passes the 10 fingers test. It's really important. Then stress a bit your phone hardware wise and see if everything runs fine and no defects show up. If everything is OK then trip knox and be happy.
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FHL09 said:
Okay in that case if I use CF-Root thus voiding my warranty will I risk losing anything else. I had an S3 for 2 years and sheer stupidity resulted in a cracked screen however that was the only time I had to use my warranty so essentially warranty shouldn't concern me but I don't want to trip this Knox counter and lose key features just for root which is all I really want. I don't plan on custom firmware flashing or anything so my OTA should still work via KIES right?
Just crossing the T's and dotting the I's before I possibly ruin a good thing.
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as said by testadeferro,
make a check on your device first for the multitouch (which some note 3 users experience this on their device). So if you need to claim warranty, you are still elligible before you trip the KNOX.
I don't know about KIES, because since my S2, S3, Note1, Note2, and till now Note3, I never use KIES to upgrade my firmware. I like to use ODIN more. And yes, though u root your device, you are still able to flash back firmware (newer version) through ODIN.
cheers.
FHL09 said:
Here are some details about my phone...
Model Number: SM-N9005
Baseband: N9005XXUDMJ7
Build Number: JSS15J.N9005XXUDMJ7
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I have n9005 and I rooted using cf root yesterday
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antique_sonic said:
as said by testadeferro,
make a check on your device first for the multitouch (which some note 3 users experience this on their device). So if you need to claim warranty, you are still elligible before you trip the KNOX.
I don't know about KIES, because since my S2, S3, Note1, Note2, and till now Note3, I never use KIES to upgrade my firmware. I like to use ODIN more. And yes, though u root your device, you are still able to flash back firmware (newer version) through ODIN.
cheers.
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testadeferro said:
Before you root make some checks. If your hardware is OK. Download from market multitouch app to see if your screen passes the 10 fingers test. It's really important. Then stress a bit your phone hardware wise and see if everything runs fine and no defects show up. If everything is OK then trip knox and be happy.
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So basically if the app recognizes 10 fingers on the screen at once it's fine correct? I managed to get 10 fingers recognized easily so essentially I'm okay to root or should I be doing something else first?
Oh and can I just quickly add I love XDA. Thanks for the support guys. I took the time to click the thanks button for you all its not much but I do appreciate the guidance.
Lol, and since when does this multi touch have anything to do with rooting ? Just root the damn thing.
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Dejan Sathanas said:
Lol, and since when does this multi touch have anything to do with rooting ? Just root the damn thing.
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Read carefully please. The multitouch has nothing to do with root. The point is that some screens have issues. And before you loose warranty by rooting you should check it. Duh!
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Thanks!
Okay I have taken the jump & I am now rooted, thanks for the guidance! I have also updated my signature
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Lol, and since when does this multi touch have anything to do with rooting ? Just root the damn thing.
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Yeah... long live root!
Damn sammy all their note device always got h/w problem.
Emmc brick bugs, sds, and now multitouch. Hahaha
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I have some question about Knox

Hi
I have bought me a new samsung s5 and I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
best regards
Peter
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shysstkille said:
Hi
I have bought me a new samsung s5 and I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
best regards
Peter
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Look here http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/ for instance and KNOX cannot be reset atm. You can root with Towelroot without tripipng KNOX but flashing a kernel or custom recovery will set KNOX on 0x1. Yes, tripping KNOX will void warranty in some regions depending on local laws. In the EU it doesn`t unless the oem can prove that rooting was the cause of the defect.
shysstkille said:
I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
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Knox doesn't matter to most people. Samsung will, particularly in North America disavow a warranty if Knox is tripped. But most people don't deal with Samsung for warranty issues. They deal with their carrier and most carriers don't care about Knox.And stronger consumer protection legislation in the EU means that your warranty rights cannot be summarily dismissed. You signature suggests that you may be in the EU in which case it isn't likely an issue for you. Do a forum search to see how your carrier, which you neglected to name, handles warranty claims.
A forum search would have given you better answers to all of your questions. You would find threads demonstrating that Knox can be reset. But it has only been demonstrated in limited and experimental conditions so far. It's not yet clear how widely that could be applied and isn't likely to be easily accessible to you anytime soon. A custom recovery, custom kernel or some older root methods will trip Knox.
If you are unwilling to trip Knox, then use towel root which shouldn't increment Knox and Safestrap to run your ROM. It's a lot more cumbersome and limits your choices. But you pick your poison and drink it.
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fffft said:
Knox doesn't matter to most people. Samsung will, particularly in North America disavow a warranty if Knox is tripped. But most people don't deal with Samsung for warranty issues. They deal with their carrier and most carriers don't care about Knox.And stronger consumer protection legislation in the EU means that your warranty rights cannot be summarily dismissed. You signature suggests that you may be in the EU in which case it isn't likely an issue for you. Do a forum search to see how your carrier, which you neglected to name, handles warranty claims.
A forum search would have given you better answers to all of your questions. You would find threads demonstrating that Knox can be reset. But it has only been demonstrated in limited and experimental conditions so far. It's not yet clear how widely that could be applied and isn't likely to be easily accessible to you anytime soon. A custom recovery, custom kernel or some older root methods will trip Knox.
If you are unwilling to trip Knox, then use towel root which shouldn't increment Knox and Safestrap to run your ROM. It's a lot more cumbersome and limits your choices. But you pick your poison and drink it.
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thanks all for your answer,For the moment I have towelroot in my phone but is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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shysstkille said:
is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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No, root is root. Towel root is just a nickname to the latest way to obtain root.
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fffft said:
No, root is root. Towel root is just a nickname to the latest way to obtain root.
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åh,Nice,thanks a lot mate
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How do I check the Knox counter?.... :/
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Toxicoblivion said:
How do I check the Knox counter?
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A forum search would have told you this.. look on the download mode page, in the system properties or install an app like Phone Info.
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shysstkille said:
thanks all for your answer,For the moment I have towelroot in my phone but is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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Towelroot uses an exploit so it won't trip your KNOX counter.
Using regular root on the GS5 trips KNOX.
But as stated above, flashing a custom recovery, kernel or ROM will trip KNOX regardless.
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Toxicoblivion said:
How do I check the Knox counter?.... :/
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You can either use download mode like the guy who replied to you or download an app off playstore called Phone Info.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo&hl=en

Question about triangle away and Knox.

Hey guys. I was really confident that when I will sell my S4 LTE I'd reset the counter by triangle away and flash stock ROM, but after reading http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45666586 I'm kinda worried. :/
Mine is XXUGNH6 but running CM12.1 can't I ever restore status with Chainfire's Triangle Away? :S
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Hello,
No it's not possible to reset the KNOX status
AntaresOne said:
Hello,
No it's not possible to reset the KNOX status
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Then what is CFTA used for?
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MZO said:
Then what is CFTA used for?
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Only to reset the flash counter. S4 had it on Android 4.2 bootloader which didn't have KNOX, starting from the KNOX bootloader (4.3) the flash counter isn't inside anymore
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Only to reset the flash counter. S4 had it on Android 4.2 bootloader which didn't have KNOX, starting from the KNOX bootloader (4.3) the flash counter isn't inside anymore
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Damnit!! I bought this phone on 4.2... How'd I sell this if I need to lol.
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The Knox flag being tripped doesn't affect sale value. People looking for a device with Knox are probably purchasing the S5 or S6 at this moment. The more important question is whether the phone is carrier unlocked or not, because a carrier unlocked S4 carries a premium over one still tied to the carrier. Case in point is my S4. I purchased it off Swappa with the Knox flag tripped. Compared to the value of other S4 devices being sold on Swappa at the time, the value wasn't hurt at all. In fact, its being unlocked made it more valuable than most of the other phones, so the seller made out well.
If you need to sell it, just sell it. The average person doesn't give a damn about Knox anyway.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The Knox flag being tripped doesn't affect sale value. People looking for a device with Knox are probably purchasing the S5 or S6 at this moment. The more important question is whether the phone is carrier unlocked or not, because a carrier unlocked S4 carries a premium over one still tied to the carrier. Case in point is my S4. I purchased it off Swappa with the Knox flag tripped. Compared to the value of other S4 devices being sold on Swappa at the time, the value wasn't hurt at all. In fact, its being unlocked made it more valuable than most of the other phones, so the seller made out well.
If you need to sell it, just sell it. The average person doesn't give a damn about Knox anyway.
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My phone's hardware is of unlocked black edition but when I bought it it had yes optus firmware. Non black edition -.- any way I can find my own original firmware?
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Go to sammobile.com/firmwares, enter your model number in the search box, then narrow down the search by country and carrier.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Go to sammobile.com/firmwares, enter your model number in the search box, then narrow down the search by country and carrier.
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My country is Pakistan and there's no firmware for it, I bought this phone on AUS YES OPTUS OPS and signals were fine. Better than all the phones(due to hardware)... I mean how do I track it? I bought this black edition without black edition ROM? Any way I could get it back? :'(
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Since you know the device was originally running Australian firmware from Optus, you would narrow down your search using those parameters, not the country you live in. That would get you the correct ROM.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Since you know the device was originally running Australian firmware from Optus, you would narrow down your search using those parameters, not the country you live in. That would get you the correct ROM.
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You mean I should look for Australian black edition? (Original was OPS, it wouldn't matter right?)
My old OG was so cool, it only had one Kdz file no fuss
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Nobody gives a **** about KNOX on a two year old phone anyway.
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You mean I should look for Australian black edition? (Original was OPS, it wouldn't matter right?)
My old OG was so cool, it only had one Kdz file no fuss
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Correct.
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Correct.
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Thanks. I'll get searching and if (IF) I flash wrong .tar.md5 (different region) what could happen?
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In your case, since you're unlocked you can install firmware from any region. I usually don't recommend branded firmware on an unlocked device simply because most branded firmware includes bloatware you cannot use. So in your case, I would look for an unbranded Australian firmware and use that instead of the Optus firmware. As to what will happen if you flash the wrong region, very little. It does however depend on what modifications the carrier made to the firmware.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
In your case, since you're unlocked you can install firmware from any region. I usually don't recommend branded firmware on an unlocked device simply because most branded firmware includes bloatware you cannot use. So in your case, I would look for an unbranded Australian firmware and use that instead of the Optus firmware. As to what will happen if you flash the wrong region, very little. It does however depend on what modifications the carrier made to the firmware.
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Hi,
There's no black edition ROM for Australia... So it is sure that my phone was altered what now? Should I flash any black edition?
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The thing to keep in mind that other than the addition of a set of exclusive wallpapers and ringtones, ROMs for the black edition and regular devices are identical. For example, my I9505 is not a black edition device, yet I can take the British black edition ROM (CSC BTU) and install it without trouble. So it is up to you if you want to do it. Like I said, you're not limited in the ROMs you can use.

Can i root my o2 Samsung galaxy s10+ phone without voiding warranty.

Just the title
EarthMonster said:
Just the title
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rooting a Samsung phone almost always ‘trips Knox’
(permanently blows an e-fuse) and voids the warranty
dezborders said:
rooting a Samsung phone almost always ‘trips Knox’
(permanently blows an e-fuse) and voids the warranty
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Even using magisk + custom recovery? I've heard things like Netflix don't usually work with root but this way it does.
U cant have your cake and eat it too.
Knox being broken shouldn't void warranty under EU consumer laws. But you best do your due diligence and not just take my word for it.
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The answer is no. At least nothing publicly available.
Theres plenty of USA s10+ owners who would be all over if it was possible since we cant even unlock the BL which means stuck waiting around for alternate root methods
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This is not true. It depends on "how" you root. Finding a way to root without unlocking the BL and using custom boot/recovery usually does not trip Knox. Of course these methods are becoming more and more rare. For example I rooted s8/s8+ USA variants back when they launched which was using a few vulns, certain signed samsung firmware and system root and Knox was fine. They also can root USA Note 8 devices using other means without tripping Knox. I also rooted USA N9 on combo firmware without tripping knox/warranty bit.
Heck even unlocking bootloader sometimes doesnt trip Knox until you actually flash custom firmware. Typically if you use Magisk root or TWRP on an unlocked bootloader then you definitely will trip Knox. Point is that it's possible to root without tripping knox as it has been done many times over the years. Nowadays though most people just buy unlockable variants so it's really all anyone sees or knows about most the time.
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Even using magisk + custom recovery? I've heard things like Netflix don't usually work with root but this way it does.
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Lol
Seeing as how magisk patched firmware and TWRP specifically require an unlocked BL which is exactly what trips knox your answer is no. That will 100% trip your knox flag.
As far as Netflix (and many other companies) they are always trying to be as secure as possible. Theres many who find ways to get around those types of issues. It's just a cat n mouse game sometimes i.e devs get it working then Netflix breaks it again then users find a way to get around it etc etc
elliwigy said:
This is not true. It depends on "how" you root. Finding a way to root without unlocking the BL and using custom boot/recovery usually does not trip Knox. Of course these methods are becoming more and more rare. For example I rooted s8/s8+ USA variants back when they launched which was using a few vulns, certain signed samsung firmware and system root and Knox was fine. They also can root USA Note 8 devices using other means without tripping Knox. I also rooted USA N9 on combo firmware without tripping knox/warranty bit.
Heck even unlocking bootloader sometimes doesnt trip Knox until you actually flash custom firmware. Typically if you use Magisk root or TWRP on an unlocked bootloader then you definitely will trip Knox. Point is that it's possible to root without tripping knox as it has been done many times over the years. Nowadays though most people just buy unlockable variants so it's really all anyone sees or knows about most the time.
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What you say is true anything is “possible”
However as the OP is on the O2 network he has an Exynos chipset.
Is it currently possible to root an Exynos S10+ without tripping Knox ?
I stopped rooting about 5 years ago so don’t know of a way right now
dezborders said:
What you say is true anything is “possible”
However as the OP is on the O2 network he has an Exynos chipset.
Is it currently possible to root an Exynos S10+ without tripping Knox ?
I stopped rooting about 5 years ago so don’t know of a way right now
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ive never owned one.. i imagine most just unlock bl.. but from wat my sources tell me there is easy root on exynos without tripping knox.. I am not able to provide details tho as they are private methods.. they use it for business and such apparently so take it with a grain of salt lol
exynos are notoriously known to b a lot easier to root than SD variants
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