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I recently purchased a used Samsung Vibrant. Returning it is not an option at this point. Suffice to say, its not stolen, I've paid my idiot tax, and now I want to move on and try to make someting of the money I 've already wasted. If I had to do it over again, I'd buy a new one.
Basically, the phone unable to show enough signal strength to make a phone call or data connection. Now and then it may show one bar, most of the time no bars or a blue circle/slash icon. AFAIK, even without a SIM the phone should still connect for 911 service. After checking the phone and reading this forum I can verify the phone is running the stock firmware, is not currently rooted or unlocked. As I see it have the following options;
1. Attempt some of the firmware options I find available in this forum. I'm fairly experienced with flashing HTC phones, especially the Touch Cruise, with various radios and Android builds. There seem to be many choices, I'm not sure which to start with but prefer stability over bleeding edge.
2. Contact Samsung support for possible repair, either warranty or at cost. If this is a know simple issue and would cost around $100 or so I'd considering it worth it.
3. Take it to T-mobile and see if I missed something obvious.
4. Slap my self on the back of the head for a bone-head choice, and use my repair money toward a mytouch. At least its Android.
Any helpful suggestions?
Thanks,
Nomedias
New JI6 OTA fixes signal problems
Also avoid palming the phone in left hand on a weak signal, covering the bottom left corner your signal strength drops.. Ive personally only seen this effects data not voice
demo23019 said:
New JI6 OTA fixes signal problems
Also avoid palming the phone in left hand on a weak signal, covering the bottom left corner your signal strength drops.. Ive personally only seen this effects data not voice
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I followed the directions at forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458 to update to JI6 update. The problem is still there. FYI, the only 512.pit I can find is the one included with the stock ROM. Is that good or is there a more recent one I couldn't find mention of?
you dont need to update pit file. its the same that you already have
demo23019 said:
you dont need to update pit file. its the same that you already have
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Thanks, that makes sense.
An update on the issue. I changed the screen timeout to 10 minutes, then set it down. After a couple minutes it might get 2-3 bars (-95 to -105 dBm), but the moment I pick it up it drops to nothing. And no I'm not using a deathgrip, and other phones I have get a solid signal, also on T-mobile. I'm thinking I gonna contact Samsung tomorrow and see what repair options I have, if any.
Thanks for the assist.
Nomedias said:
Thanks, that makes sense.
An update on the issue. I changed the screen timeout to 10 minutes, then set it down. After a couple minutes it might get 2-3 bars (-95 to -105 dBm), but the moment I pick it up it drops to nothing. And no I'm not using a deathgrip, and other phones I have get a solid signal, also on T-mobile. I'm thinking I gonna contact Samsung tomorrow and see what repair options I have, if any.
Thanks for the assist.
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Doesn't have to be death grip it happens just by covering the bottom left side...like i said in my OP just palming in left hand can cause this.
This only happens when you're on a weak signal.
I have this problem even on JI6 you have to hold phone certain way so you're not blocking antenna with hand.
This happens to me at home but noticed when i get real strong signal on the road or at girlfriends house it doesn't happen
I'm pretty sure nothing is wrong with your phone i think its just a design flaw on the vibrant
BTW here is an old post i made few weeks back before understanding what was actually going on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791058
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hey if you do find a solution with Samsung over the phone could you give me a heads up/PM on what they had you do?
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This only happens when you're on a weak signal.
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hey if you do find a solution with Samsung over the phone could you give me a heads up/PM on what they had you do?
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Yeah, that also follows. FYI, I get a strong signal with other phones at my location using my SIM, even on unlocked AT&T phones. However the Vibrant never gets better than -95 dBm.
I've already sent an email to Samsung support. I'll post an update once that is resolved.
Nomedias
Nomedias said:
Yeah, that also follows. FYI, I get a strong signal with other phones at my location using my SIM, even on unlocked AT&T phones. However the Vibrant never gets better than -95 dBm.
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I agree with you my nexus and diamond never had this problem.
What i was getting at is the vibrant antenna is **** or just a bad designed flaw.
and requires "stronger" signal
Anyways from my understanding there still isn't a real solution for this... but i know JI6 helps
but now battery drains faster because of the new JI6 modem
demo23019 said:
I agree with you my nexus and diamond never had this problem.
What i was getting at is the vibrant antenna is **** or just a bad designed flaw.
and requires "stronger" signal
Anyways from my understanding there still isn't a real solution for this... but i know JI6 helps
but now battery drains faster because of the new JI6 modem
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What are you talking about? The Nexus One and ESPECIALLY the Diamond has typical HTC garbage cell reception. My Vibrant has excellent reception, better than the new G2 with it's antenna at the top (don't cover it, you'll switch over to EDGE) If there is something wrong with yours you should get that checked out!
heygrl said:
What are you talking about? The Nexus One and ESPECIALLY the Diamond has typical HTC garbage cell reception.
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Yea ok what ever you say
heygrl said:
If there is something wrong with yours you should get that checked out!
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There is nothing wrong with mine, like i said before ...
This happens to me at home but noticed when i get real strong signal on the road or at girlfriends house it doesn't happen
its a known issue with vibrant phones..even yours
Just not as noticeable the closer you're to cell towers
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Yea ok what ever you say
There is nothing wrong with mine, its a known issue with vibrant phones..even yours
Just not as noticeable the closer you're to cell towers
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You know this because?
1) No, I am NOT near any cell towers
2) Took my Vibrant out to the interstate, had EXCELLENT reception - better than my other T-Mobile phones.
3) Like I said, next to the G2 the Vibrant reports a far better signal
4) if it's not reporting anything higher than -95dBm you have a serious problem. That's probably why it was for sale. Lots of people like unloading junk. It's still under warranty, get a new one from T-Mobile.
this is my 2nd phone not for that reason but old one did same, my friends does same when tested in same spots..ect my phone is fine
considering im in a spotty 3g area even states this on tmobile site on map..
Im talking about about data here not voice...i drop to Edge 3-4 bars when i cover the bottom left i dont lose signal completed. I think there is miss communication between us
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demo23019 said:
this is my 2nd phone not for that reason but old one did same, my friends does same when tested in same spots..ect my phone is fine
considering im in a spotty 3g area even states this on tmobile site on map..
Im talking about about data here not voice...i drop to Edge 3-4 bars when i cover the bottom left i dont lose signal completed. I think there is miss communication between us
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So what does spotty 3G coverage have to do with the phone?
OMG forget it
UPDATE...
Called Samsung support today. The phone is still under warranty, so they issued an RMA number and sent me a UPS label via email. I'll ship it to them and as long as it isn't due to physical damage, it will be covered at no cost to me.
As expected I had to go through the usual steps such as making sure I had a good signal where I was on another phone. Once it was clear it was either a hardware issue or a problem with the software I can't resolve, they had no problem with an RMA. FYI, I was up front about it being purchased from another T-mobile customer, but this did not appear to be an issue.
This is my first time dealing with Samsung support, and all things considered I'm feeling very positive right now. I deal with tech support lines alot in my job and so far I'm happy. Will update when I get the phone back.
Nomedias
I really want to buy this phone... But when I google around, I find tons of forum threads like this and youtube videos like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsEnYzEjjwM
Not too encouraging....
heygrl, you seem to be the only one here who is extremely happy with your reception, so it's hard for me to take your word for it!
Is there any natural way to hold this phone without making the signal drop? The bigger problem for me is that I'm on Wind Mobile, which does not have an EDGE network. So if I lose 3G, I lose my signal alltogether.
I could buy a Motorola XT720... But the screen is just incomparable to the Vibrant
Faruk88 said:
I really want to buy this phone... But when I google around, I find tons of forum threads like this and youtube videos like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsEnYzEjjwM
Not too encouraging....
heygrl, you seem to be the only one here who is extremely happy with your reception, so it's hard for me to take your word for it!
Is there any natural way to hold this phone without making the signal drop? The bigger problem for me is that I'm on Wind Mobile, which does not have an EDGE network. So if I lose 3G, I lose my signal alltogether.
I could buy a Motorola XT720... But the screen is just incomparable to the Vibrant
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If you read the poll 6 people suggested that the OP try a different firmware. Listed in the JI6 bug fixes
http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=560&AT_ID=341559
Radio: 3G antenna bar patch
SNS Sync: The interval value for synchronizing has been changed
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Considering the fact that this thread has low replies after the JI6 firmware has dropped and the fact that it sounds like a problem with this particular device, This thread proves much of nothing. The only people that have problems are the ones that complain.
Believe me, I'd be happy to buy this phone if I knew for sure that reception wouldn't be a problem... But seriously, 3g antenna bar patch? That's so Apple-esque. It does nothing to fix the underlying issue that people are having, which is a 20dBm drop in signal when holding the phone at the bottom.
Edit: 30dBm in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYzI2j3A78E (-81dBm to -111dBm)
It seems hard to believe that Samsung could have let something like this slip...
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Believe me, I'd be happy to buy this phone if I knew for sure that reception wouldn't be a problem... But seriously, 3g antenna bar patch? That's so Apple-esque. It does nothing to fix the underlying issue that people are having, which is a 20dBm drop in signal when holding the phone at the bottom.
Edit: 30dBm in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYzI2j3A78E (-81dBm to -111dBm)
It seems hard to believe that Samsung could have let something like this slip...
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The problem was with the bars. It reflected a much poorer level of service. It's hard to tell someone that has no idea how the signal is measured why their service isn't gone or bad because you have "0 bars". The Vibrant only went to -81dBm and that was obviously wrong because the Android system should reflect -dBm up until -51. -0dBm is an amazing signal, which we'll never see on any phone. It would often bounce between -111dBm and -0dBm when it showed no bars of coverage. I don't know how many more times I have to explain this.
The bars WE'RE wrong. People took this to mean that their reception was bad when in reality there was nothing wrong with it. You can't explain this to everyone because they won't understand it or care. You could go into Samsung's service menu to see actual -dBm reception because the bars we're broken and so was the Android readout.
Yes I'm an engineer so I know that 0dBm is a gain of 1 and therefore an amazing signal. However, Android just displays 0dBm when it loses service, NOT when it has a perfect signal (obviously this is technically incorrect, but this is what they chose for whatever reason).
And why was it wrong that the Vibrant in the video started off at -81dBm? That's a pretty reasonable value to have indoors.
But even if it should have started off at -51dBm instead of -81dBm, it doesn't matter because that can easily be fixed with a software patch. What CAN'T be fixed with a software patch is the 20-30dBm DROP in signal when the phone is held. So instead of my phone dropping from -81dBm to -111dBm, it will drop from -51dBm to -81dBm. Are you telling me that's supposed to be a good "fix"?
What's more concerning of course, is in low signal environments, where you can lose service alltogether. Sometimes I pull my Samsung phone out of my pocket and it shows "No Service" for a few seconds, until it gets connected to the network again. (what I'm trying to say is that it loses service in my pocket)
If I don't hear anything more convincing, I'm probably gonna go ahead and order a cheap MyTouch Slide... Way inferior to this phone, but at least it's nearly half the price and I can be confident about my reception.
Hey everyone and tnx for reading this.
I am experiencing some reception problems with my play today.
Just started to happen today.
Here is wat happens. Out of no where (and i really mean out of nowhere!) the phone has no more reception or connection to 3G or wats so ever. Ithe icons show a diff story. The reception level is full and then internet is showing 3G as normal. But i think they hang. Cuz when i use data the 3G icon changes to H.
anyways this has happened over 10-15 times during the past ten hrs or so. My friends are saying ur phone was off or out of service and im at home where i always have perfect reception.
I didnt install or remove any app.
I didnt play with settings.
I try putting it in and out of flight mode. Sometime it worked. Not everytime tho.
I tried restartung the phone. Reinserting sim and batt. Also tried searching for network manually. But i keep losing reception. Any idea?
Thanks
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Who is your provider? Sorry still getting used to all the providers.
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mamallica said:
Hey everyone and tnx for reading this.
I am experiencing some reception problems with my play today.
Just started to happen today.
Here is wat happens. Out of no where (and i really mean out of nowhere!) the phone has no more reception or connection to 3G or wats so ever. Ithe icons show a diff story. The reception level is full and then internet is showing 3G as normal. But i think they hang. Cuz when i use data the 3G icon changes to H.
anyways this has happened over 10-15 times during the past ten hrs or so. My friends are saying ur phone was off or out of service and im at home where i always have perfect reception.
I didnt install or remove any app.
I didnt play with settings.
I try putting it in and out of flight mode. Sometime it worked. Not everytime tho.
I tried restartung the phone. Reinserting sim and batt. Also tried searching for network manually. But i keep losing reception. Any idea?
Thanks
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G is slow speed.
E is medium speed.
H is broadband speed.
Go to wireless and networks to change to GSM only (permanently slow but better reception) or WCDMA only (permanently fast but probably worse reception based on how developed your carriers communication infrastructure is).
Legato525 said:
Who is your provider? Sorry still getting used to all the providers.
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Its rogers. Im in canada. Its not the network. I have been with them for years and i have had the Xperia play for over a month now. Never ever had a problem with reception. In fact its amazing.
As a matter of the fact u kno this is the problem from my phone. Which is most lijely software since i had my friend sitting next to me with his Bb he is also with rogers. He was fine bue wen he tried calling me mine said its out of service. Also i couldnt make a call to him. A few mins later everything got fixed and again it got messed up. As i said at all time the reception bar is full! But its not real since i jave no rec.
Any ideas?
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G is slow speed.
E is medium speed.
H is broadband speed.
Go to wireless and networks to change to GSM only (permanently slow but better reception) or WCDMA only (permanently fast but probably worse reception based on how developed your carriers communication infrastructure is).
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Tnx for ur advice. But i have had this phone for a month and i have been with rogers for yrs. So this is something happening now. Most likely software based.
I will however try wat u said
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mamallica said:
Tnx for ur advice. But i have had this phone for a month and i have been with rogers for yrs. So this is something happening now. Most likely software based.
I will however try wat u said
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GSM and WCDMA work differently and independantly. Your old Rogers phone probably worked using GSM.
WCDMA is not as well supported and could be considerably worse reception even though it is with the same carrier.
Go GSM only and note if the reception is better.
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GSM and WCDMA work differently and independantly. Your old Rogers phone probably worked using GSM.
WCDMA is not as well supported and could be considerably worse reception even though it is with the same carrier.
Go GSM only and note if the reception is better.
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I understand what you are saying. but as I said I have had this phone for a month and it worked perfectly. amazing reception and super fast data transfer. but its beeen 1-2 days that I am approaching such problem.
so its a software problem....
mamallica said:
I understand what you are saying. but as I said I have had this phone for a month and it worked perfectly. amazing reception and super fast data transfer. but its beeen 1-2 days that I am approaching such problem.
so its a software problem....
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Ye i understand. I'm just trying to throw some idea in the air to help you. I can understand how much of a frustrating problem it could be.
Lets' clarify -
1) You bought Xperia Play, worked perfect
2) After a month, your phone shows a good signal, but when friends telephone you it goes to answer machine as if you had 0 signal?
3) Basically all reception is lost and you have no signal, but sometimes it shows you do, even though you dont.
Here's some things to try -
1) Put your sim card in another phone and note the behaviour. Does it stay a strong signal? If yes, then it has got to be the Xperia Play at fault.
2) Put another sim card into your Xperia Play. Does it stay a strong signal? If yes, then it is actually your network provider at fault. If no, then the phone is at fault.
3) Try resetting the whole phone to default. Does the problem persist? If yes, then it is a hardware fault. If no, then problem solved.
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Ye i understand. I'm just trying to throw some idea in the air to help you. I can understand how much of a frustrating problem it could be.
Lets' clarify -
1) You bought Xperia Play, worked perfect
2) After a month, your phone shows a good signal, but when friends telephone you it goes to answer machine as if you had 0 signal?
3) Basically all reception is lost and you have no signal, but sometimes it shows you do, even though you dont.
Here's some things to try -
1) Put your sim card in another phone and note the behaviour. Does it stay a strong signal? If yes, then it has got to be the Xperia Play at fault.
2) Put another sim card into your Xperia Play. Does it stay a strong signal? If yes, then it is actually your network provider at fault. If no, then the phone is at fault.
3) Try resetting the whole phone to default. Does the problem persist? If yes, then it is a hardware fault. If no, then problem solved.
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Thanks a lot. I did restart it to factory defult yesterday! didnt help! I even reinstalled the whole software using SEUS. nothing is changed.
I know the service provider is fine since my friend sitting next to me had perfect signal. he is also using the same network as i do.
now I am jus waiting for my brother to come home. he has the arc. same network. im gonna double check the sim cards and if its the phone i will send it for repair!
I am having the same problem with mine and reception, I don't know if 85dbm is supposed to be good but I am used to having full bars in my house. I only get about 2 now.
Reception for me is terrible. Used to be a lot better on my crappy old samsung gravity.
Drops to zero bars constantly, and often says no service when inside the house.
My wifi stops working the second I'm out the front door too. Wifi works fine across the street for all my other devices, including a laptop and a samsung captivate.
This leads me to believe the radio transmitter is a defective design. I'll be calling my provider tomorrow.
Edit: wifi doesn't work now at all.
The phone's wifi icon shows it as connected, but theres no transfer of data, router doesn't see the device as logged in.
Some google searches have revealed this to be a common defect. I for one am not pleased.
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Just holding the device lowers signal!!!!
I know that sounds like crap but in the instruction manual it says not to cover the back fo the phone as it affects the signal.
No two ways around it, the phone has issues. I have taken it to carphone warephone and shown them it going from 4 bars to 1/0 bars just buy holding it. As it is over 14 days I am screwed. Whats worse it tha that had stop selling the phone to new customers as it has so many issues.
If you look at your battery life, then click on it you get the graph which shows signal. On mine were it say awake / screen on. i.e. you are holding it, the colour goes from bright green to dull green in perfect unison.
I am currently on my 2nd phone, the first one had 5 different faults. I now have 4 batteries due having to use moxier mail as the stock mail is sh1t. unhappy times
nelly_boy said:
I know that sounds like crap but in the instruction manual it says not to cover the back fo the phone as it affects the signal.
No two ways around it, the phone has issues. I have taken it to carphone warephone and shown them it going from 4 bars to 1/0 bars just buy holding it. As it is over 14 days I am screwed. Whats worse it tha that had stop selling the phone to new customers as it has so many issues.
If you look at your battery life, then click on it you get the graph which shows signal. On mine were it say awake / screen on. i.e. you are holding it, the colour goes from bright green to dull green in perfect unison.
I am currently on my 2nd phone, the first one had 5 different faults. I now have 4 batteries due having to use moxier mail as the stock mail is sh1t. unhappy times
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4 bars for me.
Cover the back with my hand.......yep still 4 bars.
If the phone was bad I would of had a **** load of problems too right?
Phone has worked perfect for me in the 2 months I have owned it.
nelly_boy said:
No two ways around it, the phone has issues. I have taken it to carphone warephone and shown them it going from 4 bars to 1/0 bars just buy holding it. As it is over 14 days I am screwed. Whats worse it tha that had stop selling the phone to new customers as it has so many issues.
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Just take it back.. Demand they fix it or give you a new one... Itll still be under warranty
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Hi guys!
I'm sorry to hear about your problems with Xperia PLAY.
I would suggest that you try some things before considering leaving it into your retailers for a check by a service technician.
Double check that the problem is not caused by an old SIM card. Old SIM's and new phones can sometimes cause troubles. So please try with a later SIM card if possible.
If that doesn't make any difference you could reinstall the phone software or update to Android 2.3.3 which is under launch right now. When the update becomes available for your device differs from market to market and is also depending on operator customization.
BR
Johan
Sony Ericsson
Johan-SEAnswers said:
Hi guys!
I'm sorry to hear about your problems with Xperia PLAY.
I would suggest that you try some things before considering leaving it into your retailers for a check by a service technician.
Double check that the problem is not caused by an old SIM card. Old SIM's and new phones can sometimes cause troubles. So please try with a later SIM card if possible.
If that doesn't make any difference you could reinstall the phone software or update to Android 2.3.3 which is under launch right now. When the update becomes available for your device differs from market to market and is also depending on operator customization.
BR
Johan
Sony Ericsson
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Just a warning, if you unlocked Bootloader ! using FOTA or SEUS very likely will result in a non-usable handset (bricked) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Johan-SEAnswers said:
Hi guys!
I'm sorry to hear about your problems with Xperia PLAY.
I would suggest that you try some things before considering leaving it into your retailers for a check by a service technician.
Double check that the problem is not caused by an old SIM card. Old SIM's and new phones can sometimes cause troubles. So please try with a later SIM card if possible.
If that doesn't make any difference you could reinstall the phone software or update to Android 2.3.3 which is under launch right now. When the update becomes available for your device differs from market to market and is also depending on operator customization.
BR
Johan
Sony Ericsson
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I did all that. Except the update. Actually I just realized its the network. All my frind have the problem. Rogers confirmed. Play has a nice reception. It was the network! Thanks for all ur help.
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captain67 said:
Reception for me is terrible. Used to be a lot better on my crappy old samsung gravity.
Drops to zero bars constantly, and often says no service when inside the house.
My wifi stops working the second I'm out the front door too. Wifi works fine across the street for all my other devices, including a laptop and a samsung captivate.
This leads me to believe the radio transmitter is a defective design. I'll be calling my provider tomorrow.
Edit: wifi doesn't work now at all.
The phone's wifi icon shows it as connected, but theres no transfer of data, router doesn't see the device as logged in.
Some google searches have revealed this to be a common defect. I for one am not pleased.
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I was having trouble with that also.
I changed my router to 802.11G only. I have devices that do not support n so i went with G. it took a day or two but but it fixed it.
to get it working when it does that you have to disconnect and then reconnect.
Seems like some people have said they are more trouble than they are worth. I have two Evo's in the house. I don't really have signal issues but the support dude said he would send it for free so I bit.
I have one. Its awesome. And why are they sending you one if you dont have signal issues?
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can you use the airraave as a wifi router as well and connect it to a cable modem for internet access, or does it only work for Sprint's network? I would love one if it was like an all in one broadband/mobile network hotspot.
adambomb6 said:
Seems like some people have said they are more trouble than they are worth. I have two Evo's in the house. I don't really have signal issues but the support dude said he would send it for free so I bit.
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Support can't even send one. Did you get an order number? Are you sure you weren't speaking with retention?
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iwin2000 said:
can you use the airraave as a wifi router as well and connect it to a cable modem for internet access, or does it only work for Sprint's network? I would love one if it was like an all in one broadband/mobile network hotspot.
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Nope.
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It's fantastic if you have real signal issues in your house. I would be a very frustrated customer without one. I can't imagine what trouble people have with theirs; I don't even think about the damn thing 99% of the time.
Jason Black said:
I have one. Its awesome. And why are they sending you one if you dont have signal issues?
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I'm pretty sure my problem is this....Calls placed with google voice cut off after 30 minutes
so the support guy reset all my crap, new prl, redid the activation, all the normal stuff they do. I doubt it will fix it, and he connected me to the other dept that is going to send out an air rave. I don't have great signal, but I don't think this is the issue. Sounds like it is worth trying out though.
seeing issues with ROM's
works great with stock firmware; seeing issues with CM7.0 and CM7.1 where it doesnt automatically find the air rave without my typing in *99
I used mine for a week or two, then got rid of it, too many problems. First off, the damn thing is a total bandwidth hog. Since there is no way to control what phone numbers get to use it, ALL my neighbors were apparently on it, using all my bandwidth all day long. Second, texts on both of my phones would randomly not send and not receive. Third, your phone's gps will be off. The airave puts out it's own gps signal, which is over a mile away from where it actually is, therefore your phone thinks you are a mile away, which makes using google maps to navigate somewhere a pain.
I spent hours on the phone with airave tech support, these are all "features" of the airave...I.e. the airave is programmed to give your phone a false gps reading.
lijujg said:
works great with stock firmware; seeing issues with CM7.0 and CM7.1 where it doesnt automatically find the air rave without my typing in *99
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I never had that problem. Hmmm...
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I used mine for a week or two, then got rid of it, too many problems. First off, the damn thing is a total bandwidth hog. Since there is no way to control what phone numbers get to use it, ALL my neighbors were apparently on it, using all my bandwidth all day long. Second, texts on both of my phones would randomly not send and not receive. Third, your phone's gps will be off. The airave puts out it's own gps signal, which is over a mile away from where it actually is, therefore your phone thinks you are a mile away, which makes using google maps to navigate somewhere a pain.
I spent hours on the phone with airave tech support, these are all "features" of the airave...I.e. the airave is programmed to give your phone a false gps reading.
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Used mine for a day and got rid of it for that very reason, I could not connect to the internet to save my life.
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I used mine for a week or two, then got rid of it, too many problems. First off, the damn thing is a total bandwidth hog. Since there is no way to control what phone numbers get to use it, ALL my neighbors were apparently on it, using all my bandwidth all day long. Second, texts on both of my phones would randomly not send and not receive. Third, your phone's gps will be off. The airave puts out it's own gps signal, which is over a mile away from where it actually is, therefore your phone thinks you are a mile away, which makes using google maps to navigate somewhere a pain.
I spent hours on the phone with airave tech support, these are all "features" of the airave...I.e. the airave is programmed to give your phone a false gps reading.
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I'm assuming you tried using the online option that allows you to restrict all phone numbers besides the one on your account & weren't successful with it?
The difference has been night & day since I did that, speed wise on the rest of my network. It still goes out every once in a while, but a reboot usually fixes it & I literally would have no service if not for having mine.
I'm assuming you tried using the online option that allows you to restrict all phone numbers besides the one on your account & weren't successful with it?
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Yes, I tried that, but it wouldn't work. I then called Airave tech support, and was told they stopped letting you do that because they were having problems with it.
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I'm assuming you tried using the online option that allows you to restrict all phone numbers besides the one on your account & weren't successful with it?
The difference has been night & day since I did that, speed wise on the rest of my network. It still goes out every once in a while, but a reboot usually fixes it & I literally would have no service if not for having mine.
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How do you do this? I have noticed that when noone is using the phones, the signal light on the Rave is blinking like someone is on it and I didnt know what that was. Also the bandwidth in my house no is horrible. I cant even watch a video on Youtube without it stopping to buffer. If you can help me with this so I can change the settings that would be great, Thx.
That really sucks, I just moved and get horrible signal but I do not want to use an Airave if it basically means all my neighbors will bog my network way down!
Signal is horrid where I live (for any service) so having the airave is a must.
How do you do this? I have noticed that when noone is using the phones, the signal light on the Rave is blinking like someone is on it and I didnt know what that was.
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If you read my post just a half inch above yours, you would see you can't do it anymore, airave blocked that feature.
I love mine, we could not use our phones in our house at all until we got ours. our neighbors live far enough away that we never have anyone using our signal, and I have pretty good internet so I doubt it would do much anyway.
Sprint offered me an Air Rave a while back ago, what exactly does it do though?
Enhance your 3G? does it work with 4G?
I have an airrave and it works great! for the most part. Lol.
I'm making this post because I need some assistance...I've already searched around this forum for a few days but it seems like I may be the only one with this issue...
I got the phone a few days ago, from day one I noticed I've been having network issues. By that I mean every time I try to use any apps that require data such as facebook, youtube, instagram, chrome, google now, and especially speedtest, my network would die for about 10 seconds as it reconnects.
All bars drop, I get the message of "network unavailable", and slowly edge speeds come back, followed by hspa.
I have tested this throughout all parts of Los Angeles already.
I have also replaced the micro sim card twice.
I also hard reset the phone back to stock.
Also reset the APN settings.
Two other people I know of in the area, their Nexus 4's work perfectly fine.
I'm all out of options, the T-Mobile tech support team is also out of options, i was recommended to send it back to Google but I don't want to do that unless it's absolutely necessary as a last resort.
I was just wondering if anyone is familiar with this issue or any suggestions as to what to do?
Thanks so much
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I'm making this post because I need some assistance...I've already searched around this forum for a few days but it seems like I may be the only one with this issue...
I got the phone a few days ago, from day one I noticed I've been having network issues. By that I mean every time I try to use any apps that require data such as facebook, youtube, instagram, chrome, google now, and especially speedtest, my network would die for about 10 seconds as it reconnects.
All bars drop, I get the message of "network unavailable", and slowly edge speeds come back, followed by hspa.
I have tested this throughout all parts of Los Angeles already.
I have also replaced the micro sim card twice.
I also hard reset the phone back to stock.
Also reset the APN settings.
Two other people I know of in the area, their Nexus 4's work perfectly fine.
I'm all out of options, the T-Mobile tech support team is also out of options, i was recommended to send it back to Google but I don't want to do that unless it's absolutely necessary as a last resort.
I was just wondering if anyone is familiar with this issue or any suggestions as to what to do?
Thanks so much
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Seems like a similar problem to what I'm having. I always just randomly lose reception. Reception is already really really bad for me, but it seems like it's whenever I pick up the phone the network goes out. It's really getting on my nerves. Most places in my house I get no reception. But it's the weirdest thing that happens. I can be sitting on the couch using my phone, and have no bars. But then I set the phone down on the couch to go grab something from the fridge and when I come back I'll have received a text message and I'll have like 2 bars! But then the second I pick the phone back up reception goes out again.
This has been going on for the last month for me, and it's especially bad at work but almost nowhere else.
I think (though I have no concrete evidence) that it's because of their ongoing 1900mhz refarm.
Someone should call tmo and find out.
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yep..i'm starting to feel like it's 100% hardware related to the antenna. might have to contact google and see what's up. hopefully if i send it back they won't take a month to replace it haha
Sounds like a faulty antenna to me :\
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I got the phone a few days ago, from day one I noticed I've been having network issues. By that I mean every time I try to use any apps that require data such as facebook, youtube, instagram, chrome, google now, and especially speedtest, my network would die for about 10 seconds as it reconnects.
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I've experienced these problems on AT&T (MEdia Net, not DataPro) as well. It happens regardless of how good my signal is. I haven't experienced the other problems you are a time else mentioned.
On the NPR app, it results in some sort of error such that I have to reboot to get the NPR app working again. The app doesn't say something has gone wrong, but it won't load any audio and will hang after waiting.
The signal drops, then picks up again and goes straight to HSPA+:15. This happens to me on the road quite often and I just switch to onboard music rather than fiddling with my phone while driving. The issue has occurred a few times while in Maps, but thankfully I knew how to get back from where I navigated to.
EDIT: Just want to clarify to the poster below me that this occurs REGARDLESS of how good my signal is. It happens when I have better than -50 dBm (I think -70 gets full bars, although I've even seen full bars at -90!) so it can't just be a low signal issue.
I'm pretty sure this happens to all nexus 4s unfortunately. Anyways that is in a poor connection area had this happen.
This happens to me at home. Bounces from 0 to 3 bars constantly. But if I'm outside in an area with strong signal I never go below 3 bars no matter how I hold it.
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Ive been having the same problems with my n4 in tmob. I get a lot of 3g and sometimes i get no bars. I hope its not a hardware issue. Im in many miami and ive seen a couple of threads about this
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I don't think it's an antenna issue. It was happening on my Galaxy Nexus for a few weeks up until I got the Nexus 4, and prior to that I *never* experienced total signal loss like this.
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I don't think it's an antenna issue. It was happening on my Galaxy Nexus for a few weeks up until I got the Nexus 4, and prior to that I *never* experienced total signal loss like this.
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The first couple weeks I had the N4, I wasn't experiencing any connection issues, but for some weird reason they started last week. It wasn't even fresh after I flashed a new ROM. I think perhaps it's a network issue that is somehow specific to our unique phone and plan combinations and our areas. Anyone using AT&T's MEdia Net plan in Georgia?
I think you guys may have gotten my issue a bit confused, what I'm trying to say is my signal fluctuates depending on location like normal, however only when I use apps that are solely dependent on internet connection, my entire network goes down.
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I think you guys may have gotten my issue a bit confused, what I'm trying to say is my signal fluctuates depending on location like normal, however only when I use apps that are solely dependent on internet connection, my entire network goes down.
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Yeah that's what I'm encountering as well. I wonder what these other guys are talking about?
My network goes down regardless of whether I'm doing anything with the phone or not. I could have just the screen on and it'll be lying on the table and I'll see it go from 2 bars to empty and eventually back.
It's especially bad at work where I have terrible signal to begin with.
Forgot to add.. my coworker with an HTC 8x and another with a Galaxy Nexus are getting the same issues.
So, it's a network problem for sure. I'll post this on the tmo forums tomorrow and see if I can get any official word on the matter.
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My network goes down regardless of whether I'm doing anything with the phone or not. I could have just the screen on and it'll be lying on the table and I'll see it go from 2 bars to empty and eventually back.
It's especially bad at work where I have terrible signal to begin with.
Forgot to add.. my coworker with an HTC 8x and another with a Galaxy Nexus are getting the same issues.
So, it's a network problem for sure. I'll post this on the tmo forums tomorrow and see if I can get any official word on the matter.
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This exact thing happens to me using straight talk att Sim.. Right now, full bars to zero, then back. Sometimes it jumps to roaming, and seems to get "stuck" and I need to turn airplane mode on/off to fix it
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strobex said:
This exact thing happens to me using straight talk att Sim.. Right now, full bars to zero, then back. Sometimes it jumps to roaming, and seems to get "stuck" and I need to turn airplane mode on/off to fix it
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same :crying:
I experienced something similar on my N4 and called T-Mobile tech support. They had me power off my phone and they "reprovisioned" or "reprogrammed" my data connection or something like that. It's been better since then.
Posted on t-mo forums, let's see if they can be of any help.
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/36768
Please add on to the linked thread, the more attention we get on this issue the faster we'll get a solution, or at least an idea of what is causing it.
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last night after midnight my phone suddenly couldn't get a signal from t-mobile. i thought i screwed it up, but then i took the sim and put it in my galaxy nexus and it had the same issue. so i went to bed and in the morning it was working fine. i suspect t-mobile was doing stuff to their network in my area
Having the exact same problem today in Manhattan near Bryant Park. Can't keep a stable signal at all and data is connecting only in bursts. Hopefully this will be fixed soon or I'll have to look for other options than Tmo and my N4
What's the E stand for? 3G?
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Am I the only one that has bad signal with this phone? My Wi-Fi cuts out and I barely get signal in places where I got 4 bars on my iPhone. Is there a fix to this?
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Am I the only one that has bad signal with this phone? My Wi-Fi cuts out and I barely get signal in places where I got 4 bars on my iPhone. Is there a fix to this?
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Having the same issue with my note 3. Seems to have gotten slightly better the past few days, but still poor compared to my note 2. Thinking about taking it back to Verizon this week. Anyone know how the return/exchange process works? If I exchange it and still have problems then what are my options? Or if I return it do I get my upgrade back? Can I then repurchase it and have another 14 days to test and potentially return it?
This is my only complaint about my phone. No problems on WiFi, but 4G reception is inconsistent and I often find the phone switching to 3G in places my Note 2 wouldn't. In that situation, I can use Tellinfo to force LTE only and I often have reception. The only problem with this is in places where 3G would actually be appropriate, I obviously then have no service.
This leads me to conclude (and hope) that it's a software/modem firmware issue rather than a hardware issue--the device is switching to 3G when staying on LTE would be appropriate. As such, we might hope for a fix.
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Having the same issue with my note 3. Seems to have gotten slightly better the past few days, but still poor compared to my note 2. Thinking about taking it back to Verizon this week. Anyone know how the return/exchange process works? If I exchange it and still have problems then what are my options? Or if I return it do I get my upgrade back? Can I then repurchase it and have another 14 days to test and potentially return it?
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I am almost certain there is a restocking fee but they may waive that/it may not apply if you are dealing with a defective device.
I have an ac router with 2 channels I sit 3 ft. From it and get poor connection errors and it's slow when it does work. I have Fios as well.
There has to be bad drivers or radio.
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I have an ac router with 2 channels I sit 3 ft. From it and get poor connection errors and it's slow when it does work. I have Fios as well.
There has to be bad drivers or radio.
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Check out my ac issues thread there is a fix
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Drachnem said:
I have an ac router with 2 channels I sit 3 ft. From it and get poor connection errors and it's slow when it does work. I have Fios as well.
There has to be bad drivers or radio.
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I have same exact problem. Except I'm using century link
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My first N3 had great WiFi & signal strength, build date 10/2, but had a crooked camera.. I've since had 2 replacements both with WiFi & signal issues, same 10/6 build date.. I will be searching Best Buy for an earlier build date or perhaps one from a more recent batch within the past week if that's even possible.
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My first N3 had great WiFi & signal strength, build date 10/2, but had a crooked camera.. I've since had 2 replacements both with WiFi & signal issues, same 10/6 build date.. I will be searching Best Buy for an earlier build date or perhaps one from a more recent batch within the past week if that's even possible.
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Hmm interesting. Thanks for this info I will probably go to Verizon Wednesday for a replacement or to at least test signal strength side by side with another device
I have luckily had vast improvements. Reception has been much better my note 3 compared to my s3. No more dropped calls. Always have a 3g or 4g signal as where I never had. Always on wifi at this location but finally sending out pics with ease.... This has definitely been some thick icing on the cake. I love it
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What's ur build date? @ loopers
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What's ur build date? @ loopers
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How do we find this? The only date I can find is under kernel verison. It states September 24th
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How do we find this? The only date I can find is under kernel verison. It states September 24th
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When u register your phone via the Samsung website, it will tell you once you input the imei info and tab to the next field.
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I had the same problem with my wifi (slow link speed "5mbps" even tho I had great signal) I solved the problem by changing the channel on my wireless router from channel 11 to channel 10 now I have awesome Internet speed "75mbps" compared to what I had before. Try it, it might help you guys' problem also.
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Mine has a build date of 10/02. I'm hoping this is just a software issue. The signal is not horrible by any means. But it seems to be slightly worse than my note 2. I had a few dropped calls the first few days I owned it(never had one with my note 2) and areas where I would at the very worst have 1 bar of 1x I now have no signal(fades in and out constantly). Sometimes I even struggle to send texts in areas that it was never an issue with the note 2. Now you've got me scared that I'll get an even worse one if I exchange it. Did you get your replacements through Verizon? How painful is the process? Also any experience getting Samsung to fix an issue like this under warranty? I'm not sure what my best option is but I only have two more days before my 14 day exchange period runs out. Fwark.
Not sure of the build date of my first Note 3 , but my second Note 3 has a build date of 10/2 and both have wifi stability issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46632006&postcount=20
Tested my note 3 tonight side by side with my girlfriend's S4 and they had about the same signal strength(note was about 10dBm worse at first but quickly adjusted and was actually better for a short period). But after watching them for about 10 minutes they seemed to be almost identical. My signal seems to be a bit better more recently than it was previously(did a soft reset last night and cleared cache as well). The only time the poor performance is really noticeable is in my living room at home where I now have no service 90% of the time making it very hard to send texts and mms. Previously with my note 2 I had at least one bar of 1x most of the time and rarely lost service completely. Hoping this will improve with a software update. I don't plan on taking mine back since it seems likely to get the same or worse performance from a replacement
My wifi is strong 50mbps, its the 4g thats my issue this radio sucks compared to my 3 year old droid bionic.
I wonder how much of the signal issues has to do with the power management. The radio and s800 provide
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I am in downtown San Francisco and at best have only 1 bar showing on 4G. I spoke to VZW service, the rep told me it's counter intuitive: yes San Francisco is saturated as best as VZW can as far as LTE is concerned, but because there are so many people using LTE in such a small area, connectivity is virtually "0".
Is this horse manure?