Seems like some people have said they are more trouble than they are worth. I have two Evo's in the house. I don't really have signal issues but the support dude said he would send it for free so I bit.
I have one. Its awesome. And why are they sending you one if you dont have signal issues?
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can you use the airraave as a wifi router as well and connect it to a cable modem for internet access, or does it only work for Sprint's network? I would love one if it was like an all in one broadband/mobile network hotspot.
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Seems like some people have said they are more trouble than they are worth. I have two Evo's in the house. I don't really have signal issues but the support dude said he would send it for free so I bit.
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Support can't even send one. Did you get an order number? Are you sure you weren't speaking with retention?
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iwin2000 said:
can you use the airraave as a wifi router as well and connect it to a cable modem for internet access, or does it only work for Sprint's network? I would love one if it was like an all in one broadband/mobile network hotspot.
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It's fantastic if you have real signal issues in your house. I would be a very frustrated customer without one. I can't imagine what trouble people have with theirs; I don't even think about the damn thing 99% of the time.
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I have one. Its awesome. And why are they sending you one if you dont have signal issues?
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I'm pretty sure my problem is this....Calls placed with google voice cut off after 30 minutes
so the support guy reset all my crap, new prl, redid the activation, all the normal stuff they do. I doubt it will fix it, and he connected me to the other dept that is going to send out an air rave. I don't have great signal, but I don't think this is the issue. Sounds like it is worth trying out though.
seeing issues with ROM's
works great with stock firmware; seeing issues with CM7.0 and CM7.1 where it doesnt automatically find the air rave without my typing in *99
I used mine for a week or two, then got rid of it, too many problems. First off, the damn thing is a total bandwidth hog. Since there is no way to control what phone numbers get to use it, ALL my neighbors were apparently on it, using all my bandwidth all day long. Second, texts on both of my phones would randomly not send and not receive. Third, your phone's gps will be off. The airave puts out it's own gps signal, which is over a mile away from where it actually is, therefore your phone thinks you are a mile away, which makes using google maps to navigate somewhere a pain.
I spent hours on the phone with airave tech support, these are all "features" of the airave...I.e. the airave is programmed to give your phone a false gps reading.
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works great with stock firmware; seeing issues with CM7.0 and CM7.1 where it doesnt automatically find the air rave without my typing in *99
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I never had that problem. Hmmm...
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I used mine for a week or two, then got rid of it, too many problems. First off, the damn thing is a total bandwidth hog. Since there is no way to control what phone numbers get to use it, ALL my neighbors were apparently on it, using all my bandwidth all day long. Second, texts on both of my phones would randomly not send and not receive. Third, your phone's gps will be off. The airave puts out it's own gps signal, which is over a mile away from where it actually is, therefore your phone thinks you are a mile away, which makes using google maps to navigate somewhere a pain.
I spent hours on the phone with airave tech support, these are all "features" of the airave...I.e. the airave is programmed to give your phone a false gps reading.
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Used mine for a day and got rid of it for that very reason, I could not connect to the internet to save my life.
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I used mine for a week or two, then got rid of it, too many problems. First off, the damn thing is a total bandwidth hog. Since there is no way to control what phone numbers get to use it, ALL my neighbors were apparently on it, using all my bandwidth all day long. Second, texts on both of my phones would randomly not send and not receive. Third, your phone's gps will be off. The airave puts out it's own gps signal, which is over a mile away from where it actually is, therefore your phone thinks you are a mile away, which makes using google maps to navigate somewhere a pain.
I spent hours on the phone with airave tech support, these are all "features" of the airave...I.e. the airave is programmed to give your phone a false gps reading.
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I'm assuming you tried using the online option that allows you to restrict all phone numbers besides the one on your account & weren't successful with it?
The difference has been night & day since I did that, speed wise on the rest of my network. It still goes out every once in a while, but a reboot usually fixes it & I literally would have no service if not for having mine.
I'm assuming you tried using the online option that allows you to restrict all phone numbers besides the one on your account & weren't successful with it?
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Yes, I tried that, but it wouldn't work. I then called Airave tech support, and was told they stopped letting you do that because they were having problems with it.
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I'm assuming you tried using the online option that allows you to restrict all phone numbers besides the one on your account & weren't successful with it?
The difference has been night & day since I did that, speed wise on the rest of my network. It still goes out every once in a while, but a reboot usually fixes it & I literally would have no service if not for having mine.
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How do you do this? I have noticed that when noone is using the phones, the signal light on the Rave is blinking like someone is on it and I didnt know what that was. Also the bandwidth in my house no is horrible. I cant even watch a video on Youtube without it stopping to buffer. If you can help me with this so I can change the settings that would be great, Thx.
That really sucks, I just moved and get horrible signal but I do not want to use an Airave if it basically means all my neighbors will bog my network way down!
Signal is horrid where I live (for any service) so having the airave is a must.
How do you do this? I have noticed that when noone is using the phones, the signal light on the Rave is blinking like someone is on it and I didnt know what that was.
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If you read my post just a half inch above yours, you would see you can't do it anymore, airave blocked that feature.
I love mine, we could not use our phones in our house at all until we got ours. our neighbors live far enough away that we never have anyone using our signal, and I have pretty good internet so I doubt it would do much anyway.
Sprint offered me an Air Rave a while back ago, what exactly does it do though?
Enhance your 3G? does it work with 4G?
I have an airrave and it works great! for the most part. Lol.
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Tell me there is a way to get voice and data at the same time on the Evo with 3g. If not, I'm taking this beast back.
Nope, that's always been a limitation with 3g. You cannot do both on Sprint's 3G CDMA network. Same for VZW.
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Nope, that's always been a limitation with 3g. You cannot do both on Sprint's 3G CDMA network. Same for VZW.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Back to F'ing AT&T.
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Tell me there is a way to get voice and data at the same time on the Evo with 3g. If not, I'm taking this beast back.
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I thought everybody knew sprint and verizon can't do that.
And being able to have voice ONLY with 4G has been talked about since the first day EVO was announced.
you can with WIFI on
I'm still lost as to why this is a deal breaker. I have needed that functionality only a handful of times over the last many years.
Some people really buy into the hype that at&t has been pushing these last few months
Wow, you just need to settle down. Having Data and voice at the same time isn't that important.
I just came from AT&T and I can count the number of times I have needed that feature. Most of the times has been when I am on a call and need to look for a phone number in maps or something like that.
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I just came from AT&T and I can count the number of times I have needed that feature. Most of the times has been when I am on a call and need to look for a phone number in maps or something like that.
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same, if it comes down to it i'll just call whomever back.
i'm experiencing MUCH faster data (20-30% speed improvement over [email protected] in my area). so it's a worthwhile trade off for me.
I'm going to keep it for 28 days and see how it works out. I surf the web a lot while on conference calls. Also use it to look something up while talking. Typically, when I need it, I really need it.
I can't say I've ever needed that feature. My only Q for those with the phone, is the reconnect (to data) very fast? I'm assuming it's probably instantaneous.
I had a (long ago) Windows Mobile phone that had this slight inconvenience, only issue was that it took about 15 seconds to get a data connection again.
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I can't say I've ever needed that feature. My only Q for those with the phone, is the reconnect (to data) very fast? I'm assuming it's probably instantaneous.
I had a (long ago) Windows Mobile phone that had this slight inconvenience, only issue was that it took about 15 seconds to get a data connection again.
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The reconnection is not something you'll notice as far as time goes.
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I surf the web a lot while on conference calls.
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This is the only reason that I have ever heard that makes any sense...but of course when I'm on a conference call I am also usually at my computer.
There are not many people in your exact situation (conference calls away from desk), so really this is a slight inconvenience for 99% of people.
The ONLY time this has bothered me is when im tethering and i get a phone call or text and even then it only really affected me when I was video chatting with someone or another form of stream. The fact that it goes off when I get a text momentarily is more annoying than the phone call one though, because I tend to get many more texts than phone calls. If i'm on a phone call, I don't need to be tethering anyways generally.
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The reconnection is not something you'll notice as far as time goes.
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It's also not exactly hard to test...make a phone call, then watch for the 3G symbol at the top of the screen.
I'm going to keep it for 28 days and see how it works out. I surf the web a lot while on conference calls. Also use it to look something up while talking. Typically, when I need it, I really need it.
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It really depends on the person. I used it all time (i am sure we can find these exact points in another thread) but the EVO is well worth the sacrifice for me.
Used it today on my EVO as a matter of fact, I was in WiFi country needless to say
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Sim. voice and data is really handy. Ever heard of Bluetooth. Browse the web and talk pretty easily. I can't say it is a deal breaker for me, but with no Wimax ( I refuse to call it 4G as it is not actual 4G) in my area their 3G speeds suck ass. AT&T I get 3.5mb down and 1.5 up. I tested on the Evo at Sprint store and was getting 900 down 900 up. Phone seemed pretty nice but don't think I want to ever go back to a CDMA carrier ever again.
You seriously walk around talking and surfing the web? I have had the urge 2 times in my entire life...
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You seriously walk around talking and surfing the web? I have had the urge 2 times in my entire life...
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thats twice more than me.
No, But I get a lot of breaks at work and play on the web etc. Like I said it is not a big deal breaker for me but when you get used to it you notice it more....
Bit the bullet last night and picked up one. Really like it so far...
http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/08/19/sprints-3g-capable-airave-from-airvana-starts-shipping/
It probably won't be really available for a while (more than 30 days - although apparently a few people have been able to get their hands on one already), but it looks like this thing is coming out sooner, rather than later.
I have one. Got it about a week ago. I havent even taken it out of the box. Guess if it supports 3G, I should.
One thing I do like is you dont need a switch to use it anymore. It has a pass-through ethernet configuration.
Im unboxing it now.. this thing is freakin huge.. WAAAAY bigger than the original AirRave I had.
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Im unboxing it now.. this thing is freakin huge.. WAAAAY bigger than the original AirRave I had.
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think you'll be able to post some speed-test results? How'd you get yours? Thought they weren't really out yet.
I still don't understand why having 3G is important at all for an Airave. The airave works using a broadband connection, so if you have broadband, the chances of you having wifi are pretty high also, and if you have wifi, who cares about 3G? Does my logic hold ground?
Sure.. Ill run speedtests.
I didnt do anything special to get it. I used to be with Sprint and I left and went to TMobile. Well, I returned my original AirRave because they asked for it back. When I came back to Sprint, I asked them to return the AirRave to me so I could hook it back up and they said they would send me a new one.
I noticed it looked different but didnt really think anything about it.
Here's a couple of things that arent mentioned in the article above.
This thing is HUGE.. I already said that but I wanted to say it again.
Its set up so you plug the cable modem directly into it and then there are extra jacks for hooking up a PC or a router.
Mine is going through the sync process now. It doesnt seem to be any faster than the old AirRaves but I may end up having to DMZ it in my router like I did the last one.
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I still don't understand why having 3G is important at all for an Airave. The airave works using a broadband connection, so if you have broadband, the chances of you having wifi are pretty high also, and if you have wifi, who cares about 3G? Does my logic hold ground?
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yes - as far is the EVO goes. But there are a ton of Sprint devices that can use 3g data but don't get wifi.
I've had mine for almost 2 weeks now, its really great, I get five bars at home and the 3g seems capped at about 2mbps. It us pretty big, but I don't mind, although I think that the samsung airrave looks a little cooler.us kind of weird when using 3g because your not using sprints network so its almost like wifi, just slower. My only complaint is that the thing takes 20 minutes to start up and it has a really weak built in gps signal, you have to use the antenna to make it work. I got mine for free from sprint because I get 0-1 bars and was "threatening to cancel" (lies to get a free airrave with no monthly fees)
I'd say its pretty awesome
You should have posted this thread in the accessories section noob
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So what do those of us with the Samsung Airaves have to do in order to get one of these new 3G capable ones?
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So what do those of us with the Samsung Airaves have to do in order to get one of these new 3G capable ones?
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Sell it on ebay them buy the new one with the money you get
I can't see that this is anything of a big deal unless your phone doesn't have Wifi capabilities
I just sent Sprint an email about getting my old Airave upgraded to the new one. Hopefully they hook me up since I've been a customer for 7 years and have no service in the middle of Atlanta.
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I still don't understand why having 3G is important at all for an Airave. The airave works using a broadband connection, so if you have broadband, the chances of you having wifi are pretty high also, and if you have wifi, who cares about 3G? Does my logic hold ground?
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Every person in my family has an evo except my mom who has a palm pixi. Which had no wifi.
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Got one on the way with a return kit for my old airave. I called customer care and asked if they were upgrading old airaves. After a few minutes on hold i was given the details regarding the new airave and the return kit. One bummer was that the rep told me that the 3g is not evdo, but first gen 3g.
Other than that I am expecting delivery next Thursday.
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is the signal given off of the new airave any better/go any further???
In my tests so far with the airave 2.0 they signal seems to be a little stronger than before...
Does it actually hand off calls to the network like its supposed to?
My Airave does not hand off calls even though when I go outside the condo, I get a full 5 bars of Sprint signal. It has yet to hand off a call though I have been impressed by the distance I can go before it drops...
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Does it actually hand off calls to the network like its supposed to?
My Airave does not hand off calls even though when I go outside the condo, I get a full 5 bars of Sprint signal. It has yet to hand off a call though I have been impressed by the distance I can go before it drops...
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What do you mean hand off calls to the network? Its not a cell repeater, I have one of those to, that will hand off calls to the network, but the airrave is a femtocell, which takes your broadband internet connection a sprint tower, it never even uses sprints towers. If you need a cell repeater I'm selling mine
Hey all,
So i just installed my Airave in my apartment, but I'm seing a lot of activity as far as the WAN light basically its rapidly blinking as if I Was making a phone call. Now here is my question... Can others beside me lock onto my Airave and use its signal? If so is there a way for me to block them out?
Yes,other people can use the airave. If you want to block them you have to call customer service. I believe that you can then give it permission based on phone numbers
yep anyone can. log into sprint website: click my devices: Update my air rave (on right side) :users: restrict accesses then add the numbers of people you want to be able to use it.
I was supposed to get an Airave but then Sprint screwed me because I get a discount for being in the military they said they will not give me one for free. Does it seem like you're getting a better signal?
Thank you guys
and yes, i get full signal, but mine doesn't allow me 3g, i only get 1X speeds with it, but I have wifi so whatever, also call quality is awesome.
no problem. and what? that doesn't sound right man... i would try calling customer service again.
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no problem. and what? that doesn't sound right man... i would try calling customer service again.
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Some versions of Airave don't give you 3g speeds, the earlier versions. A new revision was made recently that gives 3g, honestly i dont mind, i got my airave from my boss at work, he had it then canceled sprint.
The airave can not block phone numbers . I called the other day and ask about this problem and they said they can't fix it.also my airave also would set my evo to different time zone after 12 hours and my alarms wouldn't work.I have had mine off for a month now.but I get good signal now and don't pay for it anyways.
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I was supposed to get an Airave but then Sprint screwed me because I get a discount for being in the military they said they will not give me one for free. Does it seem like you're getting a better signal?
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That seems kind of backwards..thanks for serving.
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You can go to Sprint online and simply enter in the phone numbers you want to have access to the unit.
The way to test it is do a *99 from a number not entered and you wont get the message that you are going thru your personal tower.
Good luck
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Big improvement.... i have the newer airvana and it works great
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The airave can not block phone numbers . I called the other day and ask about this problem and they said they can't fix it.also my airave also would set my evo to different time zone after 12 hours and my alarms wouldn't work.I have had mine off for a month now.but I get good signal now and don't pay for it anyways.
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You can go online to sprint and into your devices and manage your airave. It ask's you to have it open or specific numbers. Put your number in and whoever else.
Go to My preferences scroll down to manage my airave access point
As far as I know, only Sprint phones can connect to the Airave. Some of the posts are a little misleading, making it sound like you can allow any phone to connect to it.
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As far as I know, only Sprint phones can connect to the Airave. Some of the posts are a little misleading, making it sound like you can allow any phone to connect to it.
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True but my neighbours have sprint so I wouldn't want them grubbing off of my airave
I own an airave myself and had it for a year now here's the deal; only 3 users can talk on it at a time meaning they don't even have to know there on ur airwave but once they make a call it will automatically connect. The problem with that is I live in a apt and people used to connect to my **** all the time and I couldn't use it lol. And even the newer airaves don't allow 3g its about 150kbps max on data correct me if I'm wrong. But I'm 100% positive about only 3 users at a time. Now here's the next problem, I believe the airave DOESN'T play nice with AOSP roms it only likes sense. Reason I say this is because on both my heroc and evo running aosp my airave had mad problems nothing would work right ; time zones, calls connecting and just wouldn't let me make calls on the airave. But on sense roms I had no problems whatsoever. Lastly, about locking your airave ;if you lock your airave on an aosp(vanilla, cm etc) it most likely will have problems. This is how my problem got started in the first place to where I came up with my theory. I tried to lock it so people couldn't steal it on an aosp rom and it wouldn't work at all. To make an already long story shorter lol if you lock it I myself believes it will only work on sense roms and that sucks for me cause I hate sense roms, so rock aosp then airave has to be open and people steal my airave so I still can't use it lmfao. Either way it goes I have one and can't use it lol.
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I own an airave myself and had it for a year now here's the deal; only 3 users can talk on it at a time meaning they don't even have to know there on ur airwave but once they make a call it will automatically connect. The problem with that is I live in a apt and people used to connect to my **** all the time and I couldn't use it lol. And even the newer airaves don't allow 3g its about 150kbps max on data correct me if I'm wrong. But I'm 100% positive about only 3 users at a time. Now here's the next problem, I believe the airave DOESN'T play nice with AOSP roms it only likes sense. Reason I say this is because on both my heroc and evo running aosp my airave had mad problems nothing would work right ; time zones, calls connecting and just wouldn't let me make calls on the airave. But on sense roms I had no problems whatsoever. Lastly, about locking your airave ;if you lock your airave on an aosp(vanilla, cm etc) it most likely will have problems. This is how my problem got started in the first place to where I came up with my theory. I tried to lock it so people couldn't steal it on an aosp rom and it wouldn't work at all. To make an already long story shorter lol if you lock it I myself believes it will only work on sense roms and that sucks for me cause I hate sense roms, so rock aosp then airave has to be open and people steal my airave so I still can't use it lmfao. Either way it goes I have one and can't use it lol.
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So many things not true....
1. The airave supports up to 6 people at once....
2. It does get 3g speeds... I get 2300 kbps up and 900kbps down
3. I have had 0 problems with locking it and using aosp. Sure sometimes it wont send calls... but using the stock rom that happens too.
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I own an airave myself and had it for a year now here's the deal; only 3 users can talk on it at a time meaning they don't even have to know there on ur airwave but once they make a call it will automatically connect. The problem with that is I live in a apt and people used to connect to my **** all the time and I couldn't use it lol. And even the newer airaves don't allow 3g its about 150kbps max on data correct me if I'm wrong. But I'm 100% positive about only 3 users at a time. Now here's the next problem, I believe the airave DOESN'T play nice with AOSP roms it only likes sense. Reason I say this is because on both my heroc and evo running aosp my airave had mad problems nothing would work right ; time zones, calls connecting and just wouldn't let me make calls on the airave. But on sense roms I had no problems whatsoever. Lastly, about locking your airave ;if you lock your airave on an aosp(vanilla, cm etc) it most likely will have problems. This is how my problem got started in the first place to where I came up with my theory. I tried to lock it so people couldn't steal it on an aosp rom and it wouldn't work at all. To make an already long story shorter lol if you lock it I myself believes it will only work on sense roms and that sucks for me cause I hate sense roms, so rock aosp then airave has to be open and people steal my airave so I still can't use it lmfao. Either way it goes I have one and can't use it lol.
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So many things not true....
1. The airave supports up to 6 people at once....
2. It does get 3g speeds... I get 2300 kbps up and 900kbps down
3. I have had 0 problems with locking it and using aosp. Sure sometimes it wont send calls... but using the stock rom that happens too.
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I have also had 0 problems with MIUI, CM6, or CM7 while using the airave/airvana
not sure about speeds as I never use it for data, i always connect to wifi while home.
so it would seem that there are a few just laying around at people homes who aren't even using them? I'm assuming that Sprint gave them to the people who have them free of charge as they had initially offered me?
That just makes me hate the customer service over at Sprint a little more right now.
Anyone willing to give up the one they aren't using? lol
The Rep told me only 3 users can use my device at once maybe mine is older, I have the white samsung airave that looks like a router. Even in the manual it says only 3 users can be on it at once. I've had mine a little over a year. When I get home ill try to find the manual. And I SAID BASED ON MY THEORY NOT ANYONE ELSES, for ME it never worked with any AOSP out there WHEN THE AIRAVE IS LOCKED. Meaning only the authorized numbers can use it and it only works on sense when its LOCKED. why don't you lock it and try for yourself. I've asked about this so many times in the heroc forums nobody had anything. When the airave is open it works on any rom. This is my exp not speaking for others.
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So many things not true....
1. The airave supports up to 6 people at once....
2. It does get 3g speeds... I get 2300 kbps up and 900kbps down
3. I have had 0 problems with locking it and using aosp. Sure sometimes it wont send calls... but using the stock rom that happens too.
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Youre wrong about the first 2 things nice try though. That's your normal 3g speeds my airave doesn't even support 3g my 3g with out turning my airave is about 1mb when its on my data is way slower. Do your research homeboy before you try to call someone out bro.
http://www.slashgear.com/sprint-airave-reception-boosting-cdma-femtocell-review-1413996/
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Below is my lengthy, but I think fair email about my past year with Sprint's nearly unusable 3G data network in my area.
To whom it may concern in Dan Hesse's office at Sprint:
Dear person reading this email, I have unfortunate news about how your network performance has been slowly degrading at the towers around the valley that I live in.
First off, here is the account info:
I live in in South East , which isn't the billing address (which is the office), but the home where I live when I'm not at the office.
When we signed up with Sprint last June, it was our first time using your network. You offered affordable family plans and had great service, according to your coverage maps and Consumer Reports ratings except that has ultimately not been the case the majority of the time.
As you can see for yourself, according to the coverage maps below (from sprint.com), there's perfect or nearly perfect voice and 3G data coverage at the billing address:
The first month or two that we had our EVO 4Gs, your network performed great and we were very happy with the service, but then in Sept. of last year, the 3G data completely stopped working/was slower than dial-up at the tower by the office. After calls to tech support, several techs claimed that the towers in the area had just been upgraded/updated...I asked: to what, dial-up?, since it wasn't just the tower by the office, it was the majority (and by majority, I mean 70%+ of the time) the 3G data barely worked or was slower than dial-up from the towers in and all around the Caldwell, ID area. Dropped calls were also a often occurrence.
When the Airvana Airave was released, I called in to tech support again, explained the situation and the tech found that we were experiencing upwards of 10% dropped calls, which is much higher than the avg. Also, tech support as never once admitted that it might possibly be the towers/network that's the problem; it's always: your phone must have issues, it mustn't be updated, ect., which I could see, except the same poor network performance was happening on all 3 of our EVOs, as well as all of my friend's EVOs in the areas. Several of them had also gotten the same story/runaround from tech support, too. Anyhow, relations sent us a free Airave, which was very nice of them, and that has made the phones work at the office/billing address, except the CSR in relations said that the coverage was 'very spotty' at that address, which I clearly don't see in your advertised coverage maps. With the Airave, 3G actually works and the calls are better, except the only reason for this is because it uses our ISP/internet to do so. The tower's 3G is still incredibly slow and much slower than advertised nearly a year later. I'm not at the office very often myself, so I can't provide you with speed test recent results, but I would suspect them to be in the 100-200k range.
Next, lets talk about the horrible service at the house. Home address is:
The service here (mainly data/3G speeds) haven't been any better than at the billing address; the sprint.com coverage maps also say that there is perfect or nearly perfect service here.
Surprise, surprise, it's also the tower that doesn't work in this case! By the way, there is an app called Antennas in the Android Market that locates which tower the phone is currently connected to, then plots it on a map - in case you were wondering.
I've called tech support and gotten the same story about how it must be the phone, not the tower...of course. Yes, my (previous) phone was rooted, but fully updated with the latest radios, PRI, NV and PRL), but other's EVOs on the plan are not rooted (but still fully updated) and they receive the exact same type of degraded service, therefore, it makes no difference to be rooted or not, even though the techs insist that it does. Finally, I gave up trying to communicate with tech support; retentions wouldn't send another Airave out for the house, either. The 3G data speeds have been hovering around 75 - 100kbps (1/6th of your lowest advertised 3G data speed, which is 600k) for almost a year - sometimes they reach upwards of 300kbps in the early hours of the mornings. For instants, one day I installed the latest Google Maps update which was about 5.75MBs; it took 28 minutes to download while I was out and about, but still in the radius/connected to the tower by my house...that's about 190kbps and probably a slightly more accurate speed test than using the Speed Test app since it was a larger file download.
Anyhow, I was in a 50MPH t-bone motorcycle wreck last week when a driver crossed the road directly in front of me when I was 10 feet from the intersection. In the wreck, my EVO was completely ruined and I was forced to get a new one. I just got home with a brand-new, fully updated, not even rootable (yet) EVO (I've been in recovery, without a phone, and haven't been home for 8 days) and guess what...the 3G data speeds have dropped even lower at the tower by my house since I was home last. Now, I can't provide a screen shot of the latest speed test results (because you have to be rooted for screen shot apps to work), but the results aren't good. The highest 3G data speed result is 23kbps, with the lowest being 4kbps; upload is slightly higher (typically is/has been) with 89kbps high and 37kbps low - that's out of 10 tests over 5 hours (every 30 minutes). Those speeds are completely unacceptable and less than half the speed of dial-up. Sprint's advertised 3G speeds are 600 to 1400...I'm getting 25.
And this continues, since its not just the towers by my house or the billing address, its about half of them, if not more. Like I said, I have several friends with EVOs who live in ; some of the EVOs are rooted, some are update, some aren't, ect. They're all experiencing the same lackluster service, even though they're in 'good' coverage - ALL depending on what tower their phone is currently connected too!
I finally stopped in to some of the local Sprint stores the other day and asked the employees there: What's up with the horrible 3G speeds? The guy at one store lied to me and showed me how he was getting perfect 1800kbps 3G speeds...of course the store had an Airave hooked up in the back, which the phone was connected to (when connected to an Airave, phones make beeps when initiating calls). The other 2 stores smugly agreed with me about how the speeds are super slow, even on their phones. On a side note, I really wonder how the hell you've been selling phones, except I know its most likely because 90+% of the customers don't know that its the crappy 3G speeds that make their email take forever to load, for Facebook to display a photo, ect.. One store did tell me that all they knew was that all of the towers from Portland, OR to SLC, UT were being updated and the ones here should have been fixed months ago.
Now, I know I'm not the only person experiencing these problems while also paying monthly for Sprint's completely and utterly unusable 3G data speeds, here, or in other parts of the nation. I know I'm not the first to email Dan's office about this problem with these same types of problems, too. I know what the replies from Dan's office have been about these types of network problems to other's. I don't expect a canned response. I don't except or want to get the runaround about the problems. I don't want to hear about how they'll be fixed by the 1st of some month in the near future, since that promise have always been broken when given to others. And I don't want a new phone because this one is the reason while I'm experiencing poor network performance.
What I expect is:
- A network/tower tech in my area to call and talk directly to me - I do do computer and tech work for a living and have read hours of information on forums and the internet; I know what I've been experiencing and I know what I'm talking about.
- Monthly discounts on all (3) lines until I receive your advertised 3G data speeds and service the majority of the time, not just when the phone is connected to an Airave our about 1 out of 7 towers.
In the end, I'm just your customer, asking for your advertised speeds and coverage, with no lies, runarounds or bull****. I'm not mad, just disappointed at how nothing has been resolved in almost a year. This is not how a business should be run.
Regards,
Man you sure do whine a lot. First about your bike accident, which I'm more than willing to bet was your fault and now about this.
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Man you sure do whine a lot. First about your bike accident, which I'm more than willing to bet was your fault and now about this.
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Not my fault; couldn't have been my fault, so STFU.
You try living with 3G speeds half the speed of dial up, in fact, cancel your home internet and sign up for Netzero's dialup because I'm sure it'll save you a few bucks a month; I hear they even have a free dial-up optimizer that gets you an extra kbps or two.
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Not my fault; couldn't have been my fault, so STFU.
You try living with 3G speeds half the speed of dial up, in fact, cancel your home internet and sign up for Netzero's dialup because I'm sure it'll save you a few bucks a month; I hear they even have a free dial-up optimizer that gets you an extra kbps or two.
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just ignore the troll dude he is a n00b hope they give you a response will watch for one from you to see what they say and sorry about the wreak man!
I'm actually curious as to what the response will be.
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Evo4eva said:
Man you sure do whine a lot. First about your bike accident, which I'm more than willing to bet was your fault and now about this.
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Wow. Lol. That's all the input you have to give back?
Anyway, I'd like to see what the response is also. I had problems for about 2 months and after about 20-30 phone calls they came out and fixed the towers and haven't had any problems anymore. Hope it works out for you!
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Man you sure do whine a lot. First about your bike accident, which I'm more than willing to bet was your fault and now about this.
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Troll of the day
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Hope you get a quick response. Please update us
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Man you sure do whine a lot. First about your bike accident, which I'm more than willing to bet was your fault and now about this.
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I hope your stay at xda is a short one.
Evo4eva said:
Man you sure do whine a lot. First about your bike accident, which I'm more than willing to bet was your fault and now about this.
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SMH!!
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Color me unimpressed with 3G speeds, too. Though this is my first 3G capable phone, so I don't really have anything to compare it to.
dsf3g said:
Color me unimpressed with 3G speeds, too. Though this is my first 3G capable phone, so I don't really have anything to compare it to.
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i am shocked that its your first must have really liked the old one lol
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i am shocked that its your first must have really liked the old one lol
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My old phone was a Chinese copy of an HTC Touch 3G... but without the 3G. It was a fairly decent phone as far as Windows Mobile 6.1 phones go. I still use it at the gym as an MP3 player with a set of Sennheiser MM100 bluetooth stereo headphones because its A2DP music quality is far superior to my Evo. Before that I only had flip phones. I was on T-Mobile then.
The Evo, of course, outshines the old phone in every other way. It's a bonafide, pocket-sized Android tablet.
I too, want to know what the response will be. Please update this thread when you receive a response.
my 3g speeds have sucked every from Sacremento in the north, san diego in the south, tucson in the east, and all along the western coast from San Diego to Monterrey.
WHere did I get a good speed? Anytime I roam on the verizon network, and anytime I am in Mexico......Yes, it works great in Tijuana, Rosarito, Ensenada...
This latest update seems like it helped fix my speed though. Its still not the best, but hey I last checked in Tucson (yuck) and will check several locations between here an Los Angeles as I drive towards home!
Ahh, I miss Ensanada....
Great town to party in.
Hrshycro said:
Not my fault; couldn't have been my fault, so STFU.
You try living with 3G speeds half the speed of dial up, in fact, cancel your home internet and sign up for Netzero's dialup because I'm sure it'll save you a few bucks a month; I hear they even have a free dial-up optimizer that gets you an extra kbps or two.
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Lmfao
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I'll keep y'all posted on any replies from Sprint!
As soon as you used the word "bull****", you invalidated the entire email.
IMHO, you will probably get a canned response with no followup. The wording and flow of your message was more akin to what a kid would send in. But good luck, I hope you do get a real response, along with some satisfaction.
I'm making this post because I need some assistance...I've already searched around this forum for a few days but it seems like I may be the only one with this issue...
I got the phone a few days ago, from day one I noticed I've been having network issues. By that I mean every time I try to use any apps that require data such as facebook, youtube, instagram, chrome, google now, and especially speedtest, my network would die for about 10 seconds as it reconnects.
All bars drop, I get the message of "network unavailable", and slowly edge speeds come back, followed by hspa.
I have tested this throughout all parts of Los Angeles already.
I have also replaced the micro sim card twice.
I also hard reset the phone back to stock.
Also reset the APN settings.
Two other people I know of in the area, their Nexus 4's work perfectly fine.
I'm all out of options, the T-Mobile tech support team is also out of options, i was recommended to send it back to Google but I don't want to do that unless it's absolutely necessary as a last resort.
I was just wondering if anyone is familiar with this issue or any suggestions as to what to do?
Thanks so much
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I'm making this post because I need some assistance...I've already searched around this forum for a few days but it seems like I may be the only one with this issue...
I got the phone a few days ago, from day one I noticed I've been having network issues. By that I mean every time I try to use any apps that require data such as facebook, youtube, instagram, chrome, google now, and especially speedtest, my network would die for about 10 seconds as it reconnects.
All bars drop, I get the message of "network unavailable", and slowly edge speeds come back, followed by hspa.
I have tested this throughout all parts of Los Angeles already.
I have also replaced the micro sim card twice.
I also hard reset the phone back to stock.
Also reset the APN settings.
Two other people I know of in the area, their Nexus 4's work perfectly fine.
I'm all out of options, the T-Mobile tech support team is also out of options, i was recommended to send it back to Google but I don't want to do that unless it's absolutely necessary as a last resort.
I was just wondering if anyone is familiar with this issue or any suggestions as to what to do?
Thanks so much
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Seems like a similar problem to what I'm having. I always just randomly lose reception. Reception is already really really bad for me, but it seems like it's whenever I pick up the phone the network goes out. It's really getting on my nerves. Most places in my house I get no reception. But it's the weirdest thing that happens. I can be sitting on the couch using my phone, and have no bars. But then I set the phone down on the couch to go grab something from the fridge and when I come back I'll have received a text message and I'll have like 2 bars! But then the second I pick the phone back up reception goes out again.
This has been going on for the last month for me, and it's especially bad at work but almost nowhere else.
I think (though I have no concrete evidence) that it's because of their ongoing 1900mhz refarm.
Someone should call tmo and find out.
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yep..i'm starting to feel like it's 100% hardware related to the antenna. might have to contact google and see what's up. hopefully if i send it back they won't take a month to replace it haha
Sounds like a faulty antenna to me :\
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I got the phone a few days ago, from day one I noticed I've been having network issues. By that I mean every time I try to use any apps that require data such as facebook, youtube, instagram, chrome, google now, and especially speedtest, my network would die for about 10 seconds as it reconnects.
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I've experienced these problems on AT&T (MEdia Net, not DataPro) as well. It happens regardless of how good my signal is. I haven't experienced the other problems you are a time else mentioned.
On the NPR app, it results in some sort of error such that I have to reboot to get the NPR app working again. The app doesn't say something has gone wrong, but it won't load any audio and will hang after waiting.
The signal drops, then picks up again and goes straight to HSPA+:15. This happens to me on the road quite often and I just switch to onboard music rather than fiddling with my phone while driving. The issue has occurred a few times while in Maps, but thankfully I knew how to get back from where I navigated to.
EDIT: Just want to clarify to the poster below me that this occurs REGARDLESS of how good my signal is. It happens when I have better than -50 dBm (I think -70 gets full bars, although I've even seen full bars at -90!) so it can't just be a low signal issue.
I'm pretty sure this happens to all nexus 4s unfortunately. Anyways that is in a poor connection area had this happen.
This happens to me at home. Bounces from 0 to 3 bars constantly. But if I'm outside in an area with strong signal I never go below 3 bars no matter how I hold it.
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Ive been having the same problems with my n4 in tmob. I get a lot of 3g and sometimes i get no bars. I hope its not a hardware issue. Im in many miami and ive seen a couple of threads about this
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I don't think it's an antenna issue. It was happening on my Galaxy Nexus for a few weeks up until I got the Nexus 4, and prior to that I *never* experienced total signal loss like this.
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I don't think it's an antenna issue. It was happening on my Galaxy Nexus for a few weeks up until I got the Nexus 4, and prior to that I *never* experienced total signal loss like this.
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The first couple weeks I had the N4, I wasn't experiencing any connection issues, but for some weird reason they started last week. It wasn't even fresh after I flashed a new ROM. I think perhaps it's a network issue that is somehow specific to our unique phone and plan combinations and our areas. Anyone using AT&T's MEdia Net plan in Georgia?
I think you guys may have gotten my issue a bit confused, what I'm trying to say is my signal fluctuates depending on location like normal, however only when I use apps that are solely dependent on internet connection, my entire network goes down.
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I think you guys may have gotten my issue a bit confused, what I'm trying to say is my signal fluctuates depending on location like normal, however only when I use apps that are solely dependent on internet connection, my entire network goes down.
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Yeah that's what I'm encountering as well. I wonder what these other guys are talking about?
My network goes down regardless of whether I'm doing anything with the phone or not. I could have just the screen on and it'll be lying on the table and I'll see it go from 2 bars to empty and eventually back.
It's especially bad at work where I have terrible signal to begin with.
Forgot to add.. my coworker with an HTC 8x and another with a Galaxy Nexus are getting the same issues.
So, it's a network problem for sure. I'll post this on the tmo forums tomorrow and see if I can get any official word on the matter.
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Pheno.menon said:
My network goes down regardless of whether I'm doing anything with the phone or not. I could have just the screen on and it'll be lying on the table and I'll see it go from 2 bars to empty and eventually back.
It's especially bad at work where I have terrible signal to begin with.
Forgot to add.. my coworker with an HTC 8x and another with a Galaxy Nexus are getting the same issues.
So, it's a network problem for sure. I'll post this on the tmo forums tomorrow and see if I can get any official word on the matter.
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This exact thing happens to me using straight talk att Sim.. Right now, full bars to zero, then back. Sometimes it jumps to roaming, and seems to get "stuck" and I need to turn airplane mode on/off to fix it
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strobex said:
This exact thing happens to me using straight talk att Sim.. Right now, full bars to zero, then back. Sometimes it jumps to roaming, and seems to get "stuck" and I need to turn airplane mode on/off to fix it
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same :crying:
I experienced something similar on my N4 and called T-Mobile tech support. They had me power off my phone and they "reprovisioned" or "reprogrammed" my data connection or something like that. It's been better since then.
Posted on t-mo forums, let's see if they can be of any help.
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/36768
Please add on to the linked thread, the more attention we get on this issue the faster we'll get a solution, or at least an idea of what is causing it.
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last night after midnight my phone suddenly couldn't get a signal from t-mobile. i thought i screwed it up, but then i took the sim and put it in my galaxy nexus and it had the same issue. so i went to bed and in the morning it was working fine. i suspect t-mobile was doing stuff to their network in my area
Having the exact same problem today in Manhattan near Bryant Park. Can't keep a stable signal at all and data is connecting only in bursts. Hopefully this will be fixed soon or I'll have to look for other options than Tmo and my N4
What's the E stand for? 3G?
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