The octacore... which is used When? - Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General

Basically, I read in one of these threads (can't remember which now) that the higher speed cup is only used in gaming, and for everything else the 1.3 cup is used.
Now this sounded odd to me, as I know my original note 10.1 ramped up to full speed during various normal tasks (it was rooted so I could see these things lol).
Unfortunately I haven't rooted this one yet, I'm waiting for the knox issue to get resolved (or for a good rom to appear) so I can't look for myself, so I thought I'd ask you nice people...
When does the cpu speed ramp up to the full 1.9?
Is it only in games, or does it do it for browsing, gallery, photos, sketchbook pro, etc.
Not all apps require the extra power, but for some it's helpful. I was just curious I'm sure other are Too!
Thanks

the octa is never used all together basically but the high4 cores would go up to 1.9ghz when on a heavy task

Blackwolf10 said:
the octa is never used all together basically but the high4 cores would go up to 1.9ghz when on a heavy task
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Oh sorry, I know it's really two separate quad-cores, and only one of them is used at any one time...
I just meant at what point does the 1.9 cpu kick in. Is it only in games, or does it do it for other tasks too

nirurin said:
Oh sorry, I know it's really two separate quad-cores, and only one of them is used at any one time...
I just meant at what point does the 1.9 cpu kick in. Is it only in games, or does it do it for other tasks too
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it is mainly for console class games but maybe sometimes the phone will use it for other stuff too

I think the exynos change cpu when you need more power in interface or in game. i think the lags on exynos are when the cpu change.

interesting reading
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_announces_true_octacore_for_its_biglittle_chip-news-6759.php

thomlh;4826Here's interesting reading
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Very interesting. Heres hoping this is something that can be done with a software update!

Blackwolf10 said:
the octa is never used all together basically but the high4 cores would go up to 1.9ghz when on a heavy task
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Blackwolf,
In 2004 I was a civilian stationed at Camp Freedom near Mosul. But you were just a boy then. Many good memories.

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Blackwolf,
In 2004 I was a civilian stationed at Camp Freedom near Mosul. But you were just a boy then. Many good memories.
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ah memories in 2004 I was a boy dreaming of owning even a simple Nokia and now yeah its all different well glad to see someone remembering the good times ^_^

You don't need root to monitor cpu
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nirurin said:
Very interesting. Heres hoping this is something that can be done with a software update!
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It is, but it's not confirmed to be coming. When you buy a Samsung product don't expect much in the way of updates. You'll get a few firmware updates and the next version of Android. If you're looking for much more than that then you're risking very serious disappointment.

Houndx said:
It is, but it's not confirmed to be coming. When you buy a Samsung product don't expect much in the way of updates. You'll get a few firmware updates and the next version of Android. If you're looking for much more than that then you're risking very serious disappointment.
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Well no, but if the update is released for the Exynos cpu, some clever sod is bound to figure out how to implement it onto the Note in a custom ROM kind of way.
That would definitely be worth rooting for haha.
And I thought I needed root to do anything with the CPU. I will have to look to see if I can find a live monitor app or something, thanks.
Edit:
I found an app which does that, in a nice little overlay. Seems that the cpu peaks up to 1900mhz fairly frequently, when loading up certain things etc. So its not just a gaming thing. Seems to work quite well.

Which app? Please share.
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sbattosai said:
Which app? Please share.
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Oh I'm at work, but off the top of my head I think its called "cool stats".
I have it showing a tiny little overlay showing cpu speed and memory usage
Edit: "cool tool".

Blackwolf10 said:
the octa is never used all together basically but the high4 cores would go up to 1.9ghz when on a heavy task
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From what I got fromSamsung site, It is true for the older version. With the new version used in GN 10.1 2014 it has HMP and all cores work together simultaneously, and potentially all cores at a given time.

Link or proof?
As far as I understood it, there is a patch that might come out and open for full octa core, but nothing yet. And they have pretty much said that the note 3 will NOT be getting it
http://www.techenclave.com/news/no-true-octa-core-hmp-for-samsung-galaxy-s4-and-note-3/6573/
and here
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Note...t-core-performance-patch-says-Samsung_id47977
We can still hope....

sbattosai said:
Which app? Please share.
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System monitor works well but to get overlay, you have to buy it
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ChrisNee1988 said:
System monitor works well but to get overlay, you have to buy it
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I used cool tools, its free and includes overlay

double07 said:
From what I got fromSamsung site, It is true for the older version. With the new version used in GN 10.1 2014 it has HMP and all cores work together simultaneously, and potentially all cores at a given time.
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No, it does not use all 8 cores simultaneously. The older versions of the Exynos big.LITTLE chips do not have the capability at all. The newer version, including the one in the 10.1 2014, has the hardware in place to do it, but it is not turned on in the kernel.

Ah, thanks for pointing that out.
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[Discuss] Minecraft on Xperia Play

Can't believe this isn't here yet. Minecraft is demoed on the Xperia Play. Check it out. http://goo.gl/QCEQN
Please give me that asap I will do anything to be on that alpha list or something.
Please tell me how great this will be bellow...
I love Minecraft but personally would never play it on the Xperia Play.
Why?
Because as seen in that demo, the draw distance is really small on the Play and you NEED the draw distance when traveling at first to find your way "home" (Yes I know you can make a compass)
Also if you made your home far from your spawn and then died you'd never find your home lol
Even though it looks simple you need pretty beefy hardware to make it (My PC does no prob: i7, 5870, 12gb RAM, 1tb HDD, BR-burner) But my buddy struggles in the game on his laptop and its a dual core.
So I don't know, I just can't see it being very good really...unless they can increase the draw distance some how.
OHHH YESSS!!!! this is the best phone ever i never knew it could play minecraft this phone is the best !
gunstar3035 said:
I love Minecraft but personally would never play it on the Xperia Play.
Why?
Because as seen in that demo, the draw distance is really small on the Play and you NEED the draw distance when traveling at first to find your way "home" (Yes I know you can make a compass)
Also if you made your home far from your spawn and then died you'd never find your home lol
Even though it looks simple you need pretty beefy hardware to make it (My PC does no prob: i7, 5870, 12gb RAM, 1tb HDD, BR-burner) But my buddy struggles in the game on his laptop and its a dual core.
So I don't know, I just can't see it being very good really...unless they can increase the draw distance some how.
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Draw distance will be fine by release, trust me. There is already a Minecraft clone on the market called Minebuilder. While it's unfinished, it's still a very good representation of how the real game would run on mobile.
If I were you, I would check your buddy's laptop for spyware and the like. It seems that it's running slower than it should be. I've run minecraft with no issues on a 1.3Ghz ULV (ultra low voltage, slower) dual core processor on my HP TM2 and with integrated graphics on.
My eeebook on ubuntu plays minecraft. And if that can, anything can lol.
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Clyzm said:
Draw distance will be fine by release, trust me. There is already a Minecraft clone on the market called Minebuilder. While it's unfinished, it's still a very good representation of how the real game would run on mobile.
If I were you, I would check your buddy's laptop for spyware and the like. It seems that it's running slower than it should be. I've run minecraft with no issues on a 1.3Ghz ULV (ultra low voltage, slower) dual core processor on my HP TM2 and with integrated graphics on.
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Hmmm yeah maybe its just his laptop.
I just assumed you needed beefy hardware because it runs fantastic for me and not for him. I dont know, guess we will see.
I checked out minebuilder. It seems good but it won't work with buttons... anyone know how to configure controls?
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replicant101 said:
I checked out minebuilder. It seems good but it won't work with buttons... anyone know how to configure controls?
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You can't configure anything. The game is extremely extremely alpha right now. The actual Minecraft port from Mojang will likely come out before Minebuilder is actually playable.
Oh okay cool
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Just can't wait for it. It will be so good, in a shopping centre to be building... In Minecraft.
Not sure i would want to play MC on my Mobile over anything else i have to kill time with currently on there.
I'm pretty gutted to see that it's Minecraft Classic and not the current one. ie, there's no arm or anything, no need to harvest supplies to gain more, you have unlimited blocks!
Nhialor said:
I'm pretty gutted to see that it's Minecraft Classic and not the current one. ie, there's no arm or anything, no need to harvest supplies to gain more, you have unlimited blocks!
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I can't imagine it would be released without survival mode. That's probably just for testing.
Probably no multiplayer though.
giventofly17 said:
I can't imagine it would be released without survival mode. That's probably just for testing.
Probably no multiplayer though.
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I made a mistake in my post, there is the arm holding blocks! I read earlier that there will be multiplayer, but I pray to god that survival mode is included and not the classic mode :-(
You guys can have it. I'm waiting for desert wind or whatever it is. Lol
Nhialor said:
I made a mistake in my post, there is the arm holding blocks! I read earlier that there will be multiplayer, but I pray to god that survival mode is included and not the classic mode :-(
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I'm not bothered at least we are getting it.
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Tegra 3 to have 5 cores, not 4!!!

Read about it here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4840/kalel-has-five-cores-not-four-nvidia-reveals-the-companion-core
o0o0o nice!!!
seems kewl
wil you buy me one NOWWWWWW
erica_renee said:
seems kewl
wil you buy me one NOWWWWWW
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Lol you only put out for chix....no chance
Seems like such an obvious feature that you wonder why intel/AMD haven't implemented it already in PCs. Maybe it's a bit more complex than that, but having a companion core clocked for low power consumption is just such a winning idea. Can't wait until we see them in consumer products.
nytrojen said:
Seems like such an obvious feature that you wonder why intel/AMD haven't implemented it already in PCs. Maybe it's a bit more complex than that, but having a companion core clocked for low power consumption is just such a winning idea. Can't wait until we see them in consumer products.
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Next Gen Android Tablets will be using them!
nytrojen said:
Seems like such an obvious feature that you wonder why intel/AMD haven't implemented it already in PCs. Maybe it's a bit more complex than that, but having a companion core clocked for low power consumption is just such a winning idea. Can't wait until we see them in consumer products.
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Because the fifth core will save power in the long run. On a desktop you don't have to worry about battery life.
I guess nobody cares about laptops anymore.
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Proud to be an early adopter and look forward to the next Gen!
On the real though, 5th core is the lonesome kicker.
The way NVIDIA has handled the 5th core is pretty clever in its simplicity, the OS doesn't have any kind of direct access to it at all so there's no changes to the OS needed. This'll reduce idle power usage by very large amounts and makes me wonder how long will it take for other manufacturers to catch on and implement a similar function in their CPUs.
monkeychef said:
Because the fifth core will save power in the long run. On a desktop you don't have to worry about battery life.
I guess nobody cares about laptops anymore.
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Yeah when I said PCs I guess I should have mentioned laptops specifically. Similar idea behind Nvidia's Optimus: 2 discrete GPUs; one clocked for low power consumption and one for high performance and make them switchable on the fly depending on requirements.
nytrojen said:
Yeah when I said PCs I guess I should have mentioned laptops specifically. Similar idea behind Nvidia's Optimus: 2 discrete GPUs; one clocked for low power consumption and one for high performance and make them switchable on the fly depending on requirements.
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It's not really the same thing: both the graphics cards are accessible by the OS and it's the driver that makes the change take effect, meaning that it won't work in OSes where no such driver exists. This thing however is OS and driver independent: it is implemented at hardware level and thus works on any OS, both current and future ones. That makes this approach much more accessible and future-proof.
Im curious to see how much battery this will save seeing that this fifth core will only be in use when you are doing nothing at all. I already get amazing standby battery life
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I wonder if this will show up in the rumored 10 inch Android Kindle Tablet. Also wondering how obsolete this will make my A500.
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I wonder if this will be in the rumored 10" Amazon tablet. I hope this doesn't obsolete my A500
the link is 404'D
Falkner09 said:
the link is 404'D
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Check your internet, worked fine here, and the link is at anandtech, one of the most respected tech sites on the net, I've never found them to go down.

Tegra 3 Companion Core and Performance

I'm sure the Performance of the Tegra 3 5th core has been discussed before, but this video makes it really easy to understand.
Video on the Companion 5th core in the Tegra 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1qKdBX4-jc
The constant Wait messages and browser lag has had me thinking about how the companion core works. Watch the video. I get the impression that lag is a "Built in" feature of the Tegra 3.
It would seem that every time you stop doing something, like stop scrolling you get dumped back to the low power companion core. So it would make sense that there is always a lag when you start and stop doing things in the browser, or any other app for that matter, including the home screen interface.
I would think - continuous activity = no lag - high power cores in use
Intermittent activity = lag and slight delay while cores switch and "Ramp up"
May provide a little insight into the way the interface is responding and why this thing is so laggy at times.
I'm thinking it would be interesting to use an app (assuming there is one available like that shown in the video) and watching what the cores are doing when the annoying"Not responding, Wait" messages show up on this tablet.
Another observation: I don't remember getting any of these "wait" messages on my Tegra 2 devices. And tegra 2 has NO companion core.
So, one core foreward, and two steps back?
Next thought would be - is there a way to disable the companion core, or force use of the high power cores exclusively? I expect this would greatly speed up our tablets, with the trade off of lower battery life.
The video seems to imply that games use the high power cores exclusively - though perhaps this is just because of the constant activity/demand
I'm thinking that this might be another reason I might prefer a snapdragon or exynos processor which I assume have no "Handicap" core. I think I would prefer consistant performance and the absense of lag over slightly increased battery life.
** If anyone knows a CPU monitor that shows the companion core please let me know - so far the ones that I have looked at on the market appear to monitor the high performance cores only - though, I suppose I could just infer its activity, by the main cores being inactive....
Additional Intersting Info: The "Companion core is said to run at 500mhz. So if browsing is done with the companion core, thats pretty darn slow.
It is supposedly invisible to the Android Operating system. Managed apparently by Tegra 3 hardware itself.
When you use browse2ram, you get no wait- message but you are still using the companion core ... so i think you think wrong...
black_impact said:
When you use browse2ram, you get no wait- message but you are still using the companion core ... so i think you think wrong...
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What exactly is browse2ram?
MrMarques01 said:
What exactly is browse2ram?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25286407&postcount=61
It`s great
I had this problem too when first using the device. It seems as I'd the Tegra 3 had problems ramping up from the low power companion core. This happened on every application I've had. Now it's been day 2 with the tablet and the lag completely went away. I've only had one full charge and I was playing sonic 4 episode 2 for a bit. Went to browser and it felt as smooth as butter.
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Tw1tchy said:
I had this problem too when first using the device. It seems as I'd the Tegra 3 had problems ramping up from the low power companion core. This happened on every application I've had. Now it's been day 2 with the tablet and the lag completely went away. I've only had one full charge and I was playing sonic 4 episode 2 for a bit. Went to browser and it felt as smooth as butter.
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I read something about tegra 3 needing to cache before it runs at its best. I can confirm at first i thought wtf is up with this piece of ****.. lol now I simply love it nothing lags everything is fast, battery lasts forever. With more use I give it the better performance ive noticed.
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deathskater said:
I read something about tegra 3 needing to cache before it runs at its best. I can confirm at first i thought wtf is up with this piece of ****.. lol now I simply love it nothing lags everything is fast, battery lasts forever. With more use I give it the better performance ive noticed.
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Very interesting. I haven't used my TF300 heavily lately, but I think I did notice that the wait message doesn't pop up as often.
NCRoadster said:
Very interesting. I haven't used my TF300 heavily lately, but I think I did notice that the wait message doesn't pop up as often.
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I seriously reccomend boat browser it hasnt lagged ir anything at all and is working great.
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Stuttering, lag on internet

Does anyone encounter any serious stuttering or lag when they are scrolling a page on the internet. If anyone has any tips on how to fix it than I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm up to date so I'm hoping there is a quick fix I can do.
mikeakanice said:
Does anyone encounter any serious stuttering or lag when they are scrolling a page on the internet. If anyone has any tips on how to fix it than I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm up to date so I'm hoping there is a quick fix I can do.
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Depending on the web page, it doesn't scroll as smoothly as an iPad if thats what you were hoping for. But this is the case I find with most android devices. Although, it has been reported that rooting the device and turning off, some of the Samsung Bloatware such as Knox applications, improves it significantly. I personally won't do that because I do like some of the samsung apps and don't want to mess up the tablet's S-Pen functionality, even though the rooting supposedly doesn't mess with that.
A friend of mine recently bought the wifi version and together with my lte variant we started doing some everyday performance comparisons.
One of the things we noted immediately was the stuttering when scrolling in the browser or when pulling down the notification bar. It was nonexistent in the wifi version , but the lte version (even though rooted and free of bloatware) was constantly stuttering. I just hope it was the effect of the performance updates the wifi version received, else I have to say the exynos is superior. What do I want with a snapdragon that can't even handle smooth scrolling..?
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Does anyone encounter any serious stuttering or lag when they are scrolling a page on the internet. If anyone has any tips on how to fix it than I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm up to date so I'm hoping there is a quick fix I can do.
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A friend of mine recently bought the wifi version and together with my lte variant we started doing some everyday performance comparisons.
One of the things we noted immediately was the stuttering when scrolling in the browser or when pulling down the notification bar. It was nonexistent in the wifi version , but the lte version (even though rooted and free of bloatware) was constantly stuttering. I just hope it was the effect of the performance updates the wifi version received, else I have to say the exynos is superior. What do I want with a snapdragon that can't even handle smooth scrolling..?
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Thats surprising as I thought for sure the snapdragon would be superior. I have read the speed comparison tests and it gets better benchmarks than the wifi version. The only surprise down the road is the rumored patch that samsung is working on that will allow all eight cores to work simultaneously together which would make the enynos version faster.
noctisk said:
A friend of mine recently bought the wifi version and together with my lte variant we started doing some everyday performance comparisons.
One of the things we noted immediately was the stuttering when scrolling in the browser or when pulling down the notification bar. It was nonexistent in the wifi version , but the lte version (even though rooted and free of bloatware) was constantly stuttering. I just hope it was the effect of the performance updates the wifi version received, else I have to say the exynos is superior. What do I want with a snapdragon that can't even handle smooth scrolling..?
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My device is the wifi version. Yet still horrible choppiness, stuttering, lagging when I scroll. It is starting to feel like a game breaker to me which would be ashame because the S pen feature is the most wonderfully polished feature ever. I'm a student of course though.
abacus0101 said:
Depending on the web page, it doesn't scroll as smoothly as an iPad if thats what you were hoping for. But this is the case I find with most android devices. Although, it has been reported that rooting the device and turning off, some of the Samsung Bloatware such as Knox applications, improves it significantly. I personally won't do that because I do like some of the samsung apps and don't want to mess up the tablet's S-Pen functionality, even though the rooting supposedly doesn't mess with that.
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I find it really curious though that with 3 gigs of ram and the type of processor this device has that it shouldn't be running as smoothly as the ipad. I mean spec wise this thing is a monster. Is it just bad software optimization? I'm also afraid of rooting because I've never done it and the term is pretty new to me. I know I'm a noob
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I find it really curious though that with 3 gigs of ram and the type of processor this device has that it shouldn't be running as smoothly as the ipad. I mean spec wise this thing is a monster. Is it just bad software optimization? I'm also afraid of rooting because I've never done it and the term is pretty new to me. I know I'm a noob
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im also scared of rooting.
pretty bad when you have to do something drastic and invalidate your warranty on a £450 tablet just to get it to work properly...
mikeakanice said:
Does anyone encounter any serious stuttering or lag when they are scrolling a page on the internet. If anyone has any tips on how to fix it than I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm up to date so I'm hoping there is a quick fix I can do.
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Are you using the stock browser? I'm using Dolphin HD. I also downloaded Flash. I found that switching flash to on demand vs always on seemed to help. I occasionally get a slight freeze or crash but overall I'm pretty happy with the Web browsing.
Redline80 said:
Are you using the stock browser? I'm using Dolphin HD. I also downloaded Flash. I found that switching flash to on demand vs always on seemed to help. I occasionally get a slight freeze or crash but overall I'm pretty happy with the Web browsing.
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I've used puffin, chrome, and stock. In fact, the stock browser has the least issue. Also, has anyone noticed that youtube videos that say HD don't look very good. Sorry, it's my first time with a tablet.
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Thats surprising as I thought for sure the snapdragon would be superior. I have read the speed comparison tests and it gets better benchmarks than the wifi version. The only surprise down the road is the rumored patch that samsung is working on that will allow all eight cores to work simultaneously together which would make the enynos version faster.
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Actually seems like Samsung have nipped that in the bud by saying the wont be doing that.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Note...Exynos-performance-patch-says-Samsung_id47977
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Are you using the stock browser? I'm using Dolphin HD. I also downloaded Flash. I found that switching flash to on demand vs always on seemed to help. I occasionally get a slight freeze or crash but overall I'm pretty happy with the Web browsing.
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Where did you get the flash from..adobe's site says that flash isn't supported anymore since on all devices after july 15th i believe. if you could provide that link it would be great..thx
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I've used puffin, chrome, and stock. In fact, the stock browser has the least issue. Also, has anyone noticed that youtube videos that say HD don't look very good. Sorry, it's my first time with a tablet.
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To be honest, I believe this might be an issue with youtube. I noticed on my note 2014 that I'm only able to play 720p youtube videos. I've tried Tubemate as well as other 3rd party youtube apps that allow you to download videos and I never get any options above 720p quality. Why google/youtube would impose this restriction I have no idea.
The problem with this is that on a tablet with 2560x1600 resolution, content shot at 1280x720 resolution can look less than impressive. However, when you get a hold of quality 1080p content the screen is downright amazing.
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Where did you get the flash from..adobe's site says that flash isn't supported anymore since on all devices after july 15th i believe. if you could provide that link it would be great..thx
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Geordie Affy said:
Actually seems like Samsung have nipped that in the bud by saying the wont be doing that.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Note...Exynos-performance-patch-says-Samsung_id47977
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I already think this tablet gets way too hot for doing normal stuff. I'm not touching octa even if somebody figures out how to hack it. It would probably melt my precious plastic leather.
I'll patiently wait for Samsung to optimize the software. I know this hardware is capable enough, damn it. It's a freaking pull down. That can't be that intensive as to bring a 1.9GHz quadcore to its knees unless somebody coded it wrong.
I think performance is decent enough for this tablet without the octa patch. That is once you tinker with it and optimize everything. My rooted, customized galaxy s3 runs smoother than the beast of a note sometimes. But anyway, that's the fun part.
As for lag or stutter, I do get it, but I think after rooting and cleaning up Samsung's touchwiz, it will get much better.
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Thats surprising as I thought for sure the snapdragon would be superior. I have read the speed comparison tests and it gets better benchmarks than the wifi version. The only surprise down the road is the rumored patch that samsung is working on that will allow all eight cores to work simultaneously together which would make the enynos version faster.
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It wouldn't make it faster anyways....it would just increase battery life as the four cores that become available to you when you need high performance and have high cpu load is the slow, low speed, but power efficient chips. This is with the rumored patch of course. If you already have the a15 based chips all on and ruining at max freq then you will get nothing g, or next to nothing, from turning on 4 lower power ones.
It would be like driving a Ferrari 150mph down a race track and saying you are going to give yourself a speed boost by pushing with your feet....just ain't gonna happen
But in the case of the exynos, you will at least have the option of saving fuel (battery power) by pushing with your feet (using the low power cores) so it would be nice, but it's also been stated by mire than a few people, not sure how reliable these sources are but it's been said by mire than a couple sources, that there will be no patch for the note 3 or the note 10.1 2014 as this functionality will be savedfor a next generation device. Sad but also makes a little sense as these current devices are already basically top of the line and best I'm class, or at least right up there, as far as hardware specs go. Software may not be considered top notch by all but that isn't the point here as if these devices were patched or the functionality was released on the next generation, they both will still come with touch wiz software and thus the software part of it is a moot point. The point is, with or without this functionality, the people who would want to buy it are not concerned about it having touchwiz and thus they are getting the top end device either way. Why would Samsung push this generation device that much farther ahead when they still have a top end device and can save that "trick" for the next iteration....
/end rant

unbelievable lag playing pocket fleet on lollipop

I can't believe this phone can't handle a game like Pocket Fleet. It starts off ok, but after playing for a while it starts overheating and fps can go down to 10fps......10!!!
This is ridiculous, sorry I need to blow off steam. Wasted a lot of money on this phone, disappointed with Samsung, sold a lie.
Tuffcheez said:
I can't believe this phone can't handle a game like Pocket Fleet. It starts off ok, but after playing for a while it starts overheating and fps can go down to 10fps......10!!!
This is ridiculous, sorry I need to blow off steam. Wasted a lot of money on this phone, disappointed with Samsung, sold a lie.
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Yes.. the snapdragon variant have this problem, no problems so far on N910C, i suggest you to try a exynos device...
willowpc said:
Yes.. the snapdragon variant have this problem, no problems so far on N910C, i suggest you to try a exynos device...
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So, will Samsung refund me or swap it for exynos? I'm totally gutted and fed up of having to find solutions for a piece of hyped up equipment that fails to deliver. Sorry, maybe I'll wake up tomorrow and feel better lol.
Tuffcheez said:
So, will Samsung refund me or swap it for exynos? I'm totally gutted and fed up of having to find solutions for a piece of hyped up equipment that fails to deliver. Sorry, maybe I'll wake up tomorrow and feel better lol.
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i don't think so lol, maybe you can try to go to a samsung store, test a exynos device, and it's more likely that you'll have to sell your device to buy the exynos variant... try to talk with a samsung saler or the waranty.. ask for your money back... idk, maybe works hehe
Tuffcheez said:
I can't believe this phone can't handle a game like Pocket Fleet. It starts off ok, but after playing for a while it starts overheating and fps can go down to 10fps......10!!!
This is ridiculous, sorry I need to blow off steam. Wasted a lot of money on this phone, disappointed with Samsung, sold a lie.
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Did you install OTA or flashed via ODIN? In case you installed via OTA make factory reset.
At my N910C I installed via ODIN and before flashing I make wipe of data and cache from stock recovery.
Here all ok, device run perfectly.
Flash AEL Kernel , on 4.4.4 not on lollipop yes , you will , that lag will be gone had same problem with stock kernel , also you can try to lock and unlock your screen to remove that lag on game !
Tuffcheez said:
I can't believe this phone can't handle a game like Pocket Fleet. It starts off ok, but after playing for a while it starts overheating and fps can go down to 10fps......10!!!
This is ridiculous, sorry I need to blow off steam. Wasted a lot of money on this phone, disappointed with Samsung, sold a lie.
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Did you factory reset or just upgrade from kitkat? You have to factory reset to get smoothest operation. That made a big difference for me.
fredphoesh said:
Did you factory reset or just upgrade from kitkat? You have to factory reset to get smoothest operation. That made a big difference for me.
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Doing a factory reset does not fix the overheating when playing, which then throttles your game until it's unplayable. Everything on the surface seems to work ok, which is an illusion... play a game like Pocket Fleet and watch it deteriorate over time.
Most of games are perfectly playable in powersaving mode. Limited maximum cpu clock frequency in powersaving mode may prevent phone from overheating
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darekz said:
Most of games are perfectly playable in powersaving mode. Limited maximum cpu clock frequency in powersaving mode may prevent phone from overheating
Sent from my SM-N910T using XDA Free mobile app
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You are joking? Thanks, but it doesn't work. And why the freaking *?!*#@* should I have to limit this supposed "monster" beast of a phone to make a simple game work? Any gamers out there who know what they're talking about, and found any solutions apart from adding a rom please? I'm rooted with stock freaking lollipop.
It must just be Monday morning. I may be OK tomorrow. Thanks.

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