Tegra 3 to have 5 cores, not 4!!! - Acer Iconia A500

Read about it here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4840/kalel-has-five-cores-not-four-nvidia-reveals-the-companion-core

o0o0o nice!!!

seems kewl
wil you buy me one NOWWWWWW

erica_renee said:
seems kewl
wil you buy me one NOWWWWWW
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Lol you only put out for chix....no chance

Seems like such an obvious feature that you wonder why intel/AMD haven't implemented it already in PCs. Maybe it's a bit more complex than that, but having a companion core clocked for low power consumption is just such a winning idea. Can't wait until we see them in consumer products.

nytrojen said:
Seems like such an obvious feature that you wonder why intel/AMD haven't implemented it already in PCs. Maybe it's a bit more complex than that, but having a companion core clocked for low power consumption is just such a winning idea. Can't wait until we see them in consumer products.
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Next Gen Android Tablets will be using them!

nytrojen said:
Seems like such an obvious feature that you wonder why intel/AMD haven't implemented it already in PCs. Maybe it's a bit more complex than that, but having a companion core clocked for low power consumption is just such a winning idea. Can't wait until we see them in consumer products.
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Because the fifth core will save power in the long run. On a desktop you don't have to worry about battery life.
I guess nobody cares about laptops anymore.
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Proud to be an early adopter and look forward to the next Gen!
On the real though, 5th core is the lonesome kicker.

The way NVIDIA has handled the 5th core is pretty clever in its simplicity, the OS doesn't have any kind of direct access to it at all so there's no changes to the OS needed. This'll reduce idle power usage by very large amounts and makes me wonder how long will it take for other manufacturers to catch on and implement a similar function in their CPUs.

monkeychef said:
Because the fifth core will save power in the long run. On a desktop you don't have to worry about battery life.
I guess nobody cares about laptops anymore.
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Yeah when I said PCs I guess I should have mentioned laptops specifically. Similar idea behind Nvidia's Optimus: 2 discrete GPUs; one clocked for low power consumption and one for high performance and make them switchable on the fly depending on requirements.

nytrojen said:
Yeah when I said PCs I guess I should have mentioned laptops specifically. Similar idea behind Nvidia's Optimus: 2 discrete GPUs; one clocked for low power consumption and one for high performance and make them switchable on the fly depending on requirements.
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It's not really the same thing: both the graphics cards are accessible by the OS and it's the driver that makes the change take effect, meaning that it won't work in OSes where no such driver exists. This thing however is OS and driver independent: it is implemented at hardware level and thus works on any OS, both current and future ones. That makes this approach much more accessible and future-proof.

Im curious to see how much battery this will save seeing that this fifth core will only be in use when you are doing nothing at all. I already get amazing standby battery life
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I wonder if this will show up in the rumored 10 inch Android Kindle Tablet. Also wondering how obsolete this will make my A500.
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I wonder if this will be in the rumored 10" Amazon tablet. I hope this doesn't obsolete my A500

the link is 404'D

Falkner09 said:
the link is 404'D
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Check your internet, worked fine here, and the link is at anandtech, one of the most respected tech sites on the net, I've never found them to go down.

Related

Android 3.0 Honeycomb multicore support, traces of smartphone support!! etc...

Andy Rubin said Honeycomb has onscreen buttons.
Do you think we will quit using the capacitive buttons once updated? Will they stop illuminating?
We would save battery from them not lighting and the lack of haptic feedback.
Thoughts?
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AndroidZ28 said:
Andy Rubin said Honeycomb has onscreen buttons.
Do you think we will quit using the capacitive buttons once updated? Will they stop illuminating?
We would save battery from them not lighting and the lack of haptic feedback.
Thoughts?
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It all depends on how it is implemented, and haptic feedback will never go away, haptic feedback isnt just for capacitive buttons.
and the LEDs from the buttons dont even use much power
I thought that Andy Rubin said that was only implying for tablets since they have more space for a dedicated taskbar.
I know all haptic would not go away, I meant just for the keys. Taking away some vibrations and leds would help battery some...
Also there are some people who have capacitive button issues but don't want to exchange the phone because nothing else is wrong - they wouldn't have to!
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I personally doubt that many would quit, especially on mobiles. Tablets, yes (for instance if the Galaxy Tab recieved Honeycomb), but due to the relative small size of mobile displays, I imagine having the capacitive buttons would be useful. And I doubt it would save much battery, but then again I don't know how much they use in the first place.
Maybe the onscreen buttons will only be for tablets? Who knows...
I think the Nexus would look good with nothing lit up at the bottom.
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honeycomb has on screen buttons for the tablets only. There are two variations of honeycomb, one for phones and one for tablets.
The tablet version has a black bar on the bottom that has all the buttons that the phones normally have, and more. It moves around depending on the orientation of the screen, this was done so that no matter what way you hold the device you always have easy access to the buttons.
On the phones thats useless since all phones have the buttons on them, not to mention it would take up a good amount of screen space and lead to possible burn in issues if the buttons are always there.
Anyone see this news about Honeycomb - requires Dual Core?
Hi - Just came across 2 articles (PhoneDog and original source PCMag), that Honeycomb requires dual core - if so, won't this hurt us NS owners (or any single core Android phones)?
I get that these articles are talking about tablets, but just wondered of Google was planning to create a light (lack of a better term) version for phones? Sorry, don't know much about how this all works, so I wasn't sure if the same OS on tablets, would also be the same one we get on phones.
PhoneDog:
http://www.phonedog.com/2011/01/03/rumor-honeycomb-requires-a-dual-core-processor-high-res-display/
PCMag:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375016,00.asp
Lies! ... all lies
They start these rumors every single time about a future OS coming out...
PCMAG:
Google's new Android Honeycomb tablet OS will require a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 processor to run properly, said Bobby Cha, managing director of Korean consumer electronics firm Enspert.
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They're just rumors.. I highly doubt that this is true. There are no evidence to back this up, it is just some "analyst" who think he knows what he's talking about.
That's like saying the next Windows will drop support for Dual Core CPUs and only support Quad and above. It isn't realistic.
Obviously not true, that isn't Google's way of working.
remember the whole gingerbread requiring 1ghz processor..yea, that was BS
Whew! Thank you guys - now I don't have to return my baby!
Every article/rumor is saying "Honeycomb tablet OS." Nothing about the phone version. So it could be true for tablets, but I highly doubt it'll be true for phones. Not yet anyways.
oke,here is some logical sense
honeycomb is getting optimized for tablet's 'Hmm?
all the new Tablet's in the future are already getting nvidia dual core chip thingy. 'hmm?
a tablet has a bigger screen.
if you put a 30 inch screen on a windows xp single core machine and play games on it. 'Hmm?
what happens?
yes. it will run slower :3
so i am guessing.
because of the big screens on tablets,the tablets need dual core.
so assume we mobile phone users dont requir a dual core.
ghost010 said:
oke,here is some logical sense
honeycomb is getting optimized for tablet's 'Hmm?
all the new Tablet's in the future are already getting nvidia dual core chip thingy. 'hmm?
a tablet has a bigger screen.
if you put a 30 inch screen on a windows xp single core machine and play games on it. 'Hmm?
what happens?
yes. it will run slower :3
so i am guessing.
because of the big screens on tablets,the tablets need dual core.
so assume we mobile phone users dont requir a dual core.
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.....that logic is so faulty imho, 1ghz single core is more than enough power for an average tablet
Everyone is missing the verbatim quote:
Google's new Android Honeycomb tablet OS will require a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 processor to run properly,
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This is the same line that was touted during froyo/gingerbread. The OS will run properly on target hardware, that does not mean it's a requirement.
Since the very beginning andy rubin has stated the android ecosystem is similar to windows ecosystem in terms of upgrades. Meaning, that as technology moves forward so do the possibilities.
With the tablet form factor and layouts you will have views inside views, something that NEEDS more power to do. This DOES NOT MEAN phones cannot run the base OS. A phone will NEVER require to have a view within a view, because lets face it it's a 4" screen.
Just like the NFC/bluetooth/wifi/ffc apis are hardware dependent so will the "tablet API" be dependent on actual hardware that performs better.
This will probably mean a get out jail free card for samsung so they never have to update the TAB, but something tells me it's be an encore presenation of the LG fiasco with the Optimus line.
Expect to see honeycomb on phones from modder commmunity (CM and co). They'll probably hack in the tablet API just for the hell of it, even if it's useless on a handset screen.
this is nothing official, just someone's opinion. however we did all see the video of the motorola prototype at allthingsd site, and he flat out said "we take new hardware, new screen, etc" and it was running the dual core tegra cpu. that right there should give an indication of where they want tablets to go. sure it might not be REQUIRED. but i mean, the proof is right there, it was running a dual core.
RogerPodacter said:
this is nothing official, just someone's opinion. however we did all see the video of the motorola prototype at allthingsd site, and he flat out said "we take new hardware, new screen, etc" and it was running the dual core tegra cpu. that right there should give an indication of where they want tablets to go. sure it might not be REQUIRED. but i mean, the proof is right there, it was running a dual core.
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I honestly dont see any next generation tablets with a single core processor, same thing with phones too. is dual core needed for the every day user..oh hell no. but does it sound good and is it going to sell product, hell f'ng yes
I have no fear that the NS will get honeycomb.

Transformer 2 related info goes here

http://androidcommunity.com/asus-ee...ice-cream-sandwich-expected-in-q3q4-20110623/
It should never be too early to talk about the next TF that is coming later in the year.
I have the original & I love it but I'm not sure if I will be getting the TF2 or not. If they keep the same price range then it will be hard to resist in getting one. I just recent got a brand new Euro GSM GT 7" for the hell of it & I like the size. I'll probably look for a tablet in the 7-8" range & give my mom my TF since she uses it more than me.
So will you be getting the new TF2 when it comes later in the year or will you be going a different route?
A lot can happen between now and October, when he TF2 is anticipated to be out. I doubt that I'll be ready to replace the TF so soon, and I'm guessing there will be a pretty exciting new round of products coming out in 2012. So, I'd be more inclined to stick with what's working well for me, and see what's announced at CES 2012.
If I had the funds to upgrade my gadgets every six months, I would. Alas, I don't.
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It will depend on how better the TF2 will be.
I'm usually a sucker for the latest tech and a Kal-El processor is definitely hard to resist.
But I hope its just more than spec bumps, a lighter, slimmer form factor with better speakers would be nice.
If it turns out to be good then I'll probably sell my TF and get it.
Ditto, depending on how much of an upgrade the TF2 from the original TF is what will make that decision for me. Also the $ aspect
Ice Cream Sandwhich will also be a big factor, Im excited to see what it offers over Honeycomb.
Like everyone else, I may consider it, but I don't have a job, so it may be hard to get the funds, especially since I need the keyboard dock for school, and I don't even have that yet.
Chandelure said:
Like everyone else, I may consider it, but I don't have a job, so it may be hard to get the funds, especially since I need the keyboard dock for school, and I don't even have that yet.
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Lol...i know i'm trying to wait for it to go down a bit...not saying its not worth 150, cause it really is for all it does....idk, im thinking next year i'll look and see whats out there. The good thing about the TF is that it was a good price, and usually that pushes the prices of the competition down, so in a few months we might start seeing more tablets in this price range...
There is absolutely NO NEED for a quad core processor in a Tablet. This will just eat battery life ( unless they change that as well ) and cause it to get hotter.
Quad Processors are for MEDIA and GAMING machines. Machines that will take advantage and USE them properly. Tablets? No need.
If that is the only change between the two devices then anyone that does get one.....Well you know the saying " A fool and his money are soon parted ".
Digiguest said:
There is absolutely NO NEED for a quad core processor in a Tablet. This will just eat battery life ( unless they change that as well ) and cause it to get hotter.
Quad Processors are for MEDIA and GAMING machines. Machines that will take advantage and USE them properly. Tablets? No need.
If that is the only change between the two devices then anyone that does get one.....Well you know the saying " A fool and his money are soon parted ".
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The more cores doesn't mean the more power it uses, In fact the new Kal-El chips will have less power consumption than Tegra 2 at the same clock rate.
Apps also aren't the only thing that will benefit quad core processors. General tasks such as browsing or watching HD movies will benefit greatly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14yzln-NBGQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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The more cores doesn't mean the more power it uses, In fact the new Kal-El chips will have less power consumption than Tegra 2 at the same clock rate.
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Because 4 cores processing the same workload is more efficient than two cores doing the same job.
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Because 4 cores processing the same workload is more efficient than two cores doing the same job.
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Correct, as the work is shared and spread at lower amounts between the 4 cores.
At this point, I can't see anything that will get me to upgrade. Everything I need can be done on the Transformer - it's fast enough for me, games run great (I play games that run well on my old Android phone, so quad-processor Tegra 3 isn't needed..... ). I don't know of any features I "need" that I don't already have with this tablet.
Of course, my phone does need to be upgraded.... but that's a story for another day LOL
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4 cores = no more lag on the browser???? Wow, sign me up....
How about they support this one with accessories? I would love to hear about that more than making a new one and **** the original. An over priced and poor quality case is the only real accessory they have.
fader01 said:
How about they support this one with accessories? I would love to hear about that more than making a new one and **** the original. An over priced and poor quality case is the only real accessory they have.
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Future iterations of the ASUS Transformer line are said to be compatible with the current keyboard dock accessory. If you want to upgrade your TF, just replace the tablet itself and the new one will fit right in the keyboard dock. Saves you $150.
RMXO said:
So will you be getting the new TF2 when it comes later in the year or will you be going a different route?
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Probably not. Not falling for the Apple "sucker" business model anymore. The Kool-Aid has lost its taste.
slateac said:
Correct, as the work is shared and spread at lower amounts between the 4 cores.
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Understand and agree. But, stop a minute. What tasks do we all do that would truly (now, be as objective as we can lol) necessitate a quad core processor on a tablet? Who here is doing large spreadsheets? Ripping, re-coding mpeg2 files, etc. I can't speak to games as I don't play them so I'll not comment. Other than note taking, email, YouTube, a movie here or there, web browsing, Pulse, etc all mentioned perform (for me at least) quite well on the Tegra 2.
I love the "latest and greatest" too. And I consider myself very fortunate to not have a TF plagued with build issues others are experiencing. But, for me, until I see full specs that include the TF2 giving massages (oops, I take that back!) I'll just zip along with what I have. "Needs" and "Wants" are vastly different and seldom the same. IMHO.
Now the Devs, well they're different breed of cat. Heck, they've probably forgotten more about android than I'll ever know! A quad might well be indicated for them.....but the the rest of us?
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How about they support this one with accessories? I would love to hear about that more than making a new one and **** the original. An over priced and poor quality case is the only real accessory they have.
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I'm inclined to feel the same. I love the pace of current technology innovation, but I can't stand how the race to get to the next product launch consistently leaves products from the previous generation with serious bugs and other unresolved issues. The GTab is a good example of that...thank God for the dev community, who saved that device from the ashes.
The sooner Asus releases the source code, the better we'll be able to take care of ourselves in the long run with this device.
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I'm inclined to feel the same. I love the pace of current technology innovation, but I can't stand how the race to get to the next product launch consistently leaves products from the previous generation with serious bugs and other unresolved issues. The GTab is a good example of that...thank God for the dev community, who saved that device from the ashes.
The sooner Asus releases the source code, the better we'll be able to take care of ourselves in the long run with this device.
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Here, here!!! The way the accessories are coming out (insert smirk here) we might see TF6 before a useable desktop dock shows up. Or any of the other goodies we've only heard about!
jjsoviet said:
Future iterations of the ASUS Transformer line are said to be compatible with the current keyboard dock accessory. If you want to upgrade your TF, just replace the tablet itself and the new one will fit right in the keyboard dock. Saves you $150.
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This would be cool if it ends up happening (and I'd definitely upgrade if that were the case), but the TF 2 is rumored to be thinner than the TF. Not sure how it could work with the keyboard dock if that's the case.
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Do not the software/apps have to be written to take advantage of quad cores? My guess would be a quad core tablet would kind of be a waste as at least 2 out of the 4 cores would sit by doing nothing most of the time until all the programmers catch up.

Manufacturers abandoning Tegra ship?

Both of the upcoming Galaxy tablets won't be running a Tegra chipset. Toshiba's AT200 won't be either. And this is after Tegra3 has been announced, shown off. Wonder if this is a good thing.
It is. I for one don't want Android to become a mono-chipset OS. Imagine the PC market without AMD pushing Intel, or AMD pushing Nvidia, or Audi pushing BMW, etc.
Not to mention, reviewers and buyers are starting to yawn at "another Tegra-powered slate".
Itaintrite said:
Both of the upcoming Galaxy tablets won't be running a Tegra chipset. Toshiba's AT200 won't be either. And this is after Tegra3 has been announced, shown off. Wonder if this is a good thing.
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Croak said:
It is. I for one don't want Android to become a mono-chipset OS. Imagine the PC market without AMD pushing Intel, or AMD pushing Nvidia, or Audi pushing BMW, etc.
Not to mention, reviewers and buyers are starting to yawn at "another Tegra-powered slate".
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I totally agree that this is a good thing. Maybe we might even see Tegra 3 sooner.
I must admit, I really don't care much for gaming on tablets. So as long as whatever they put into the upcoming tablets can handle all my videos (without transcoding), I'll be one happy man
Gaming on tablets is even more stupid than gaming on laptops. I wish they would use more die area for the CPU and video accelerator instead of adhearing to stupid kids that play video games.
Itaintrite said:
Both of the upcoming Galaxy tablets won't be running a Tegra chipset. Toshiba's AT200 won't be either. And this is after Tegra3 has been announced, shown off. Wonder if this is a good thing.
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This is definitely a good thing. I was getting tired of tegra optimized apps that wouldn't work on other devices without chainfire plugin.
There is a standard created and i think every manufacturer should follow them

Upgradable hardware for phones as a new technology

This would be great for future mobile phones..,being able to replace the processor with another, add more RAM etc.
I was thinking...it can't be that hard to implement, may just take a little more space though.
Id love this also, my first upgrade would be the new processor from the SIII, its faster and it uses less power according to samsung.
RudiRulez said:
Id love this also, my first upgrade would be the new processor from the SIII, its faster and it uses less power according to samsung.
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With the current climate and state of the world, it would make more sense to think along the lines of the environment, all you need is one phone and the replacements can be bought.
I would easily keep my phone for 5 years this way rather than 1-2 years if my phone could be upgraded.
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With the current climate and state of the world, it would make more sense to think along the lines of the environment, all you need is one phone and the replacements can be bought.
I would easily keep my phone for 5 years this way rather than 1-2 years if my phone could be upgraded.
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And thats exactly why phone manufacturers would never allow upgradable hardware unfortunately
I see no reason for opensourcing hardware lmao. That or transition it all in the cloud so no newer hardware is needed altogether
Need some serious batteries thought for the constant streaming
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It would be nice, the most likely upgradable parts would be the CPU, GPU, RAM, and maybe sound DAC, and possibly an internal expansion port, with similar upgrade principles of a laptop computer.
Everything would have to be standardized, manufactures would be limited to whatever the standard specifications (size, voltage, power) of the components are. They can't use better proprietary or non standard components.
Example, all phones have RAM, but they all don't use the same type of RAM chip, they're all different, with different sizes, pins, voltages etc. What if that had to be standardized, and what if and the industry standard for phone RAM isn't as good.
there is nothing new about having upgradeable hardware..the PC has been doing that since the 80's.. but there is the space to do it.
This makes zero sense in the mobile space. The economics and physical sizing needed to support anything like this, in addition to the massive increase in support costs simply defy any rational possibility of this ever occurring
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This makes zero sense in the mobile space. The economics and physical sizing needed to support anything like this, in addition to the massive increase in support costs simply defy any rational possibility of this ever occurring
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Why would the costs be irrational?
If the manufacturer has the will there would be a way. Like cars that share their platform/engine etc. I do not think it's costs that is prohibiting this development from happening.
I am happy to go through links that support your claim, though.
It will never happen so get real. What's the incentive for phone manufacturers as they're not making the actual chips?
Also everything on a phone is surface mounted - to put it in sockets would increase the size three times, so it's completely unrealistic.
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You can't swap CPU/GPU in 95% of laptops out there, how would you expect this to ever happen with a phone?
Besides the fact that it would kill manufacturers profits, standardizing everything would never happen. They would also have to design sockets to allow for this which would make for thicker heavier devices.
Keep dreaming
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this would never happen as the whole point of a mobile phone is for it to be portable
if there were specifications on the dimensions of different components so that we could swap them out with other hardware, it would limit how small we could make phones
the whole reason we solder components to a motherboard and not have everything connected with cables and sockets is to reduce space and weight
This would be the stupidest thing a company would do. Would it be nice in la la land yes, but why would any company do this. For the fans? lol people are funny.
Funny a lot think from a company perspective like they are the only stakeholders.
Think from a consumer perspective, how would it benefit you.
I like the environment point too
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And thats exactly why phone manufacturers would never allow upgradable hardware unfortunately
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"allow" lol they are not your parents lmao
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baz77 said:
Funny a lot think from a company perspective like they are the only stakeholders.
Think from a consumer perspective, how would it benefit you.
I like the environment point too
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Yes, in an ideal world companies would only care about customer satisfaction and ignore profits and growth. In the real world this doesn't happen.
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The problem is the cpus used are totally different in terms of sizes in dimensions etc and considering the size of mobile technology in terms of chips etc both the parts and paying for a professional to fit them would far outweigh the benefits gained
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Also to make the parts accessible to be user friendly plug and play would make the phone huge not to mention the firmware for our phones is mostly hardware specific
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this will never happen, because it would kill manufactories profits ;D
This is possible with PC's because they have a lot more room. Everything is so tightly packed in mobile phones that there isn't any space for connectors, slots, etc to make things like RAM or SOC's user replaceable. Have you seen how much space a CPU socket takes in? Quite a lot more than just soldering the damn thing to the board.
I could see it being possible for tablets, though. But if it ever happens, I doubt we'll see anything more than expandable RAM or hard drive. But even laptops are moving away from such things, so don't get your hopes up!
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This is possible with PC's because they have a lot more room. Everything is so tightly packed in mobile phones that there isn't any space for connectors, slots, etc to make things like RAM or SOC's user replaceable. Have you seen how much space a CPU socket takes in? Quite a lot more than just soldering the damn thing to the board.
I could see it being possible for tablets, though. But if it ever happens, I doubt we'll see anything more than expandable RAM or hard drive. But even laptops are moving away from such things, so don't get your hopes up!
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Well to start, PC's are not compact & portable, thats why you have laptops & in modern day laptops you cant change 80% of the hardware.... Phones are like laptops, compact, portable, small, built for a purpose, so if you want a phone that you can change hardware on i suggest buying a Neverhappening 3000 starting prices at £/$0
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The octacore... which is used When?

Basically, I read in one of these threads (can't remember which now) that the higher speed cup is only used in gaming, and for everything else the 1.3 cup is used.
Now this sounded odd to me, as I know my original note 10.1 ramped up to full speed during various normal tasks (it was rooted so I could see these things lol).
Unfortunately I haven't rooted this one yet, I'm waiting for the knox issue to get resolved (or for a good rom to appear) so I can't look for myself, so I thought I'd ask you nice people...
When does the cpu speed ramp up to the full 1.9?
Is it only in games, or does it do it for browsing, gallery, photos, sketchbook pro, etc.
Not all apps require the extra power, but for some it's helpful. I was just curious I'm sure other are Too!
Thanks
the octa is never used all together basically but the high4 cores would go up to 1.9ghz when on a heavy task
Blackwolf10 said:
the octa is never used all together basically but the high4 cores would go up to 1.9ghz when on a heavy task
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Oh sorry, I know it's really two separate quad-cores, and only one of them is used at any one time...
I just meant at what point does the 1.9 cpu kick in. Is it only in games, or does it do it for other tasks too
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Oh sorry, I know it's really two separate quad-cores, and only one of them is used at any one time...
I just meant at what point does the 1.9 cpu kick in. Is it only in games, or does it do it for other tasks too
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it is mainly for console class games but maybe sometimes the phone will use it for other stuff too
I think the exynos change cpu when you need more power in interface or in game. i think the lags on exynos are when the cpu change.
interesting reading
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_announces_true_octacore_for_its_biglittle_chip-news-6759.php
thomlh;4826Here's interesting reading
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Very interesting. Heres hoping this is something that can be done with a software update!
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the octa is never used all together basically but the high4 cores would go up to 1.9ghz when on a heavy task
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Blackwolf,
In 2004 I was a civilian stationed at Camp Freedom near Mosul. But you were just a boy then. Many good memories.
jnichols2 said:
Blackwolf,
In 2004 I was a civilian stationed at Camp Freedom near Mosul. But you were just a boy then. Many good memories.
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ah memories in 2004 I was a boy dreaming of owning even a simple Nokia and now yeah its all different well glad to see someone remembering the good times ^_^
You don't need root to monitor cpu
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nirurin said:
Very interesting. Heres hoping this is something that can be done with a software update!
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It is, but it's not confirmed to be coming. When you buy a Samsung product don't expect much in the way of updates. You'll get a few firmware updates and the next version of Android. If you're looking for much more than that then you're risking very serious disappointment.
Houndx said:
It is, but it's not confirmed to be coming. When you buy a Samsung product don't expect much in the way of updates. You'll get a few firmware updates and the next version of Android. If you're looking for much more than that then you're risking very serious disappointment.
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Well no, but if the update is released for the Exynos cpu, some clever sod is bound to figure out how to implement it onto the Note in a custom ROM kind of way.
That would definitely be worth rooting for haha.
And I thought I needed root to do anything with the CPU. I will have to look to see if I can find a live monitor app or something, thanks.
Edit:
I found an app which does that, in a nice little overlay. Seems that the cpu peaks up to 1900mhz fairly frequently, when loading up certain things etc. So its not just a gaming thing. Seems to work quite well.
Which app? Please share.
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sbattosai said:
Which app? Please share.
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Oh I'm at work, but off the top of my head I think its called "cool stats".
I have it showing a tiny little overlay showing cpu speed and memory usage
Edit: "cool tool".
Blackwolf10 said:
the octa is never used all together basically but the high4 cores would go up to 1.9ghz when on a heavy task
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From what I got fromSamsung site, It is true for the older version. With the new version used in GN 10.1 2014 it has HMP and all cores work together simultaneously, and potentially all cores at a given time.
Link or proof?
As far as I understood it, there is a patch that might come out and open for full octa core, but nothing yet. And they have pretty much said that the note 3 will NOT be getting it
http://www.techenclave.com/news/no-true-octa-core-hmp-for-samsung-galaxy-s4-and-note-3/6573/
and here
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Note...t-core-performance-patch-says-Samsung_id47977
We can still hope....
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Which app? Please share.
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System monitor works well but to get overlay, you have to buy it
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ChrisNee1988 said:
System monitor works well but to get overlay, you have to buy it
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I used cool tools, its free and includes overlay
double07 said:
From what I got fromSamsung site, It is true for the older version. With the new version used in GN 10.1 2014 it has HMP and all cores work together simultaneously, and potentially all cores at a given time.
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No, it does not use all 8 cores simultaneously. The older versions of the Exynos big.LITTLE chips do not have the capability at all. The newer version, including the one in the 10.1 2014, has the hardware in place to do it, but it is not turned on in the kernel.
Ah, thanks for pointing that out.
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