Don't know much about safestrap, just trying to pick you all's brains.
I wanted to know what happens if safe strap is installed and I'm on stock ROM... and I accept an ota update from Verizon? Does safestrap get uninstalled,overwritten, or is it still there and I can install a custom ROM to it even after an update that most likely breaks root?
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SS requires root to work. If you take an OTA and lose root you will loose the ability to boot into SS (however the app will still be there). If you maintain root or reroot you will maintain the ability to boot into SS.
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I wasn't sure if its possible with the nexus 4 to root in order to have the benefits of adding features like beats mods (if that's even possible on stock) and to have root access for subtle improvements to stock, but still receive ota updates from google? Any advice or information is appreciated.
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OTA Updates = Stock recovery
So I can root but not change recovery. But then I couldn't flash any mods to the stock, huh?
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ronbon said:
So I can root but not change recovery. But then I couldn't flash any mods to the stock, huh?
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For OTA updates you can have root but system and kernel must be stock without any modyfication, you can update with custom recovery but you must do that manualy (download update.zip and flash via custom recovery)
OTA updates will install fine if you are just rooted and even with custom recovery.
With custom recovery the OTA update will install through the recovery.
However, you will encounter problems as soon as you change, mod, remove system files.
So as I've gathered I can't update OTA when one is available if I have a custom recovery (CWM, TWRP). My question however is if I will be able to apply the update using my custom recovery, and if so, will I retain root and all my frozen bloat from TiBa? Thanks.
If you're talking about stock ota, then no if you have a custom recovery
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blyndfyre said:
So as I've gathered I can't update OTA when one is available if I have a custom recovery (CWM, TWRP). My question however is if I will be able to apply the update using my custom recovery, and if so, will I retain root and all my frozen bloat from TiBa? Thanks.
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Will get custom updates that you can flash through recovery long before the carrier releases the same update..
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Will get custom updates that you can flash through recovery long before the carrier releases the same update..
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You are referring to custom ROM's correct? I was hoping to remain stock and root and still be able to apply updates.
Maybe I should be the bullet and flash a custom ROM that still incorporates TW (want the gestures).
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blyndfyre said:
You are referring to custom ROM's correct? I was hoping to remain stock and root and still be able to apply updates.
Maybe I should be the bullet and flash a custom ROM that still incorporates TW (want the gestures).
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thats what i am doing.
Hello everyone, my question is hopefully simple. I'm rooted and safestrapped. I would like to know if I take OTAs in the future that break my root will safestrap still be there? Like for example, can I run a nonrooted stock ROM with safestrap installed or will safestrap get uninstalled if I take an OTA Update?
Hopefully my questions made sense. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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QbanXpress said:
Hello everyone, my question is hopefully simple. I'm rooted and safestrapped. I would like to know if I take OTAs in the future that break my root will safestrap still be there? Like for example, can I run a nonrooted stock ROM with safestrap installed or will safestrap get uninstalled if I take an OTA Update?
Hopefully my questions made sense. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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You shouldn't be able to even accept an OTA if you're rooted, it won't let you go through with it. You should never accept an OTA regardless, and rather wait until someone packages the update up within a ROM so you can still get the benefits
I wasn't aware that being routed would not allow me to accept an OTA. Are you site this happens when the stock ROM is installed? Or, are you talking about if I have a prerooted ROM installed?
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I wasn't aware that being routed would not allow me to accept an OTA. Are you site this happens when the stock ROM is installed? Or, are you talking about if I have a prerooted ROM installed?
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Good question, it's been a long long time on a previous device since I accepted an OTA :laugh:
Someone always packages it up as a flashable for us, just like the MJ7 Note 3 update....it's up the same week
OK then what I will be doing tonight is flashing the rooted stock ROM. This way I don't have to do worry about any OTA updates. I will be flashing in safestrap over the stock slot. No need to create a second ROM slot for the same ROM just rooted.
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Basically looking to go back to default factory settings, don't have the stock recovery anymore or a custom one, do not see if there's a official firmware that I can run
Would anyone be able to direct me in the right direction
Thanks
So your recovery is gone? Same thing happened to me before. Unfreeze any apps (if you froze any) take your phone to Best Buy and say Kies broke your phone. They can re-flash your phone which will unroot it and you get your recovery back. Then install the update.
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So your recovery is gone? Same thing happened to me before. Unfreeze any apps (if you froze any) take your phone to Best Buy and say Kies broke your phone. They can re-flash your phone which will unroot it and you get your recovery back. Then install the update.
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Why can't we this kies lol
We have the mf3 tar files you can use though to flash mf3
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Yes use the MF3 files in Odin and if you like root than re root and install Supersu pro to use survival mode and take the OTA Update and it will keep root for you . completely safe
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I have a pre_MF3 phone but my gf has this device with NC1 Bl, I was able to use geohot's root method to acquire root access. I have supersu installed but can't update binaries. I tried using goo.im to install a recovery but that seems to have failed (it says it installed successful). Each to I try to reboot recovery it boots into DL mode and will continue doing that until I pull battery and force a it into the "booting a custom software" screen to which then I can push vol down and restart it normal but cannot in anyway get it into recovery mode. I'm assuming this may have to deal with it being a "loki'd" recovery? Does this seem like a plausible issue? If it is what's the chances of say, since we can install I9505 roms that we could install the un- "loki'd" I9505 custom recoveries? Also, this isn't packaged with a recovery so, I'm assuming the best method of installing a recovery may be odin? Any feedback would be nice, Thanks in advance
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I have a pre_MF3 phone but my gf has this device with NC1 Bl, I was able to use geohot's root method to acquire root access. I have supersu installed but can't update binaries. I tried using goo.im to install a recovery but that seems to have failed (it says it installed successful). Each to I try to reboot recovery it boots into DL mode and will continue doing that until I pull battery and force a it into the "booting a custom software" screen to which then I can push vol down and restart it normal but cannot in anyway get it into recovery mode. I'm assuming this may have to deal with it being a "loki'd" recovery? Does this seem like a plausible issue? If it is what's the chances of say, since we can install I9505 roms that we could install the un- "loki'd" I9505 custom recoveries? Also, this isn't packaged with a recovery so, I'm assuming the best method of installing a recovery may be odin? Any feedback would be nice, Thanks in advance
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Bootloader is locked. You can't have recovery besides Safestrap on any version past MDL 4.2.2. You'll have to reflash it with ODIN to fix the recovery issue and use Safestrap to flash ROMs.
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DeadlySin9 said:
Bootloader is locked. You can't have recovery besides Safestrap on any version past MDL 4.2.2. You'll have to reflash it with ODIN to fix the recovery issue and use Safestrap to flash ROMs.
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Do you understand what I'm talking about ? Geohots newest root method that works on the s5 and everything? If so I guess what you're telling me is this isn't a true root method but merely a way to get a ss installed?
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I guess I was thinking this was a true root method. It does make sense that I'll need SS seeing as how the other recovery isn't working. I'll go try installing SS
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Droidmissionary said:
I guess I was thinking this was a true root method. It does make sense that I'll need SS seeing as how the other recovery isn't working. I'll go try installing SS
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Yep,geohots is only root, still no recovery
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Droidmissionary said:
I guess I was thinking this was a true root method. It does make sense that I'll need SS seeing as how the other recovery isn't working. I'll go try installing SS
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Root is not the same as a bootloader unlock. Older phones only needed root, now that we have complicated locked bootloaders with checks we need more than just root to install a custom recovery and ROMs.
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Root is not the same as a bootloader unlock. Older phones only needed root, now that we have complicated locked bootloaders with checks we need more than just root to install a custom recovery and ROMs.
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No I understand and that is all my fault. I guess all this hype made me think it was a true unlock. Not just root. Im sure the hype was mostly over s5
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No I understand and that is all my fault. I guess all this hype made me think it was a true unlock. Not just root. Im sure the hype was mostly over s5
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it's still only root, good progress note not the whole enchilada
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