[Q] Noob Q about OTA's. - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

So as I've gathered I can't update OTA when one is available if I have a custom recovery (CWM, TWRP). My question however is if I will be able to apply the update using my custom recovery, and if so, will I retain root and all my frozen bloat from TiBa? Thanks.

If you're talking about stock ota, then no if you have a custom recovery
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blyndfyre said:
So as I've gathered I can't update OTA when one is available if I have a custom recovery (CWM, TWRP). My question however is if I will be able to apply the update using my custom recovery, and if so, will I retain root and all my frozen bloat from TiBa? Thanks.
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Will get custom updates that you can flash through recovery long before the carrier releases the same update..
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rcklss1 said:
Will get custom updates that you can flash through recovery long before the carrier releases the same update..
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You are referring to custom ROM's correct? I was hoping to remain stock and root and still be able to apply updates.
Maybe I should be the bullet and flash a custom ROM that still incorporates TW (want the gestures).
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blyndfyre said:
You are referring to custom ROM's correct? I was hoping to remain stock and root and still be able to apply updates.
Maybe I should be the bullet and flash a custom ROM that still incorporates TW (want the gestures).
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thats what i am doing.

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Root but stock, ota updates?

I wasn't sure if its possible with the nexus 4 to root in order to have the benefits of adding features like beats mods (if that's even possible on stock) and to have root access for subtle improvements to stock, but still receive ota updates from google? Any advice or information is appreciated.
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OTA Updates = Stock recovery
So I can root but not change recovery. But then I couldn't flash any mods to the stock, huh?
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ronbon said:
So I can root but not change recovery. But then I couldn't flash any mods to the stock, huh?
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For OTA updates you can have root but system and kernel must be stock without any modyfication, you can update with custom recovery but you must do that manualy (download update.zip and flash via custom recovery)
OTA updates will install fine if you are just rooted and even with custom recovery.
With custom recovery the OTA update will install through the recovery.
However, you will encounter problems as soon as you change, mod, remove system files.

Custom Kernel and OTA updates

Hello all,
I am really interested in trying out the Franco Kernel on my Nexus 4 but would still like the ability to update OTA in the future if possible.
From my research I understand that you lose the ability to do OTA updates once a custom kernel is installed.
If I ever wish to update OTA in the future is there a way? Can I just install the stock kernel and do an OTA update (without losing data on the phone)?
Appreciate your help on this.
FaeLLe said:
Hello all,
I am really interested in trying out the Franco Kernel on my Nexus 4 but would still like the ability to update OTA in the future if possible.
From my research I understand that you lose the ability to do OTA updates once a custom kernel is installed.
If I ever wish to update OTA in the future is there a way? Can I just install the stock kernel and do an OTA update (without losing data on the phone)?
Appreciate your help on this.
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Yes you can after flashing back the stock kernel
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eainyow said:
Yes you can after flashing back the stock kernel
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Will I lose any data on phone after I flash stock kernel?
What about root, does flashing stock kernel affect root status? I think not since Su binary is in file system.
FaeLLe said:
Will I lose any data on phone after I flash stock kernel?
What about root, does flashing stock kernel affect root status? I think not since Su binary is in file system.
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You won't lose any data or root access by flashing kernels.
Even if you have a custom recovery with the stock kernel, you can still receive OTAs?
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KrimsonChin said:
Even if you have a custom recovery with the stock kernel, you can still receive OTAs?
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As long as everything else is stock yes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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Qestion on ota update

im a on custom rom right now and i have nandriod back up of stock touch wiz. if there is an ota update can i just go back to the back up i made and just do the update
Won't work if you have a custom recovery. You'd have to wait for a modified update than you can flash.
Stealyourface said:
Won't work if you have a custom recovery. You'd have to wait for a modified update than you can flash.[
i would flash the modified version just like any other rom
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danzelcool said:
Stealyourface said:
Won't work if you have a custom recovery. You'd have to wait for a modified update than you can flash.[
i would flash the modified version just like any other rom
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correct!
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Stealyourface said:
Won't work if you have a custom recovery. You'd have to wait for a modified update than you can flash.
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Isn't there a way to return the phone back to completely stock?
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Delakit said:
Isn't there a way to return the phone back to completely stock?
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Yes. But I was assuming that's not what the OP wanted.
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To get this all straight to update I would have to flash rom version of the update?
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To get this all straight to update I would have to flash rom version of the update?
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Since you are already running a custom rom you can just flash an MDL based rom. However, you will not have the MDL modem/firmware. If you want this either get your phone back to factory stock via Odin or if you can restore a nandroid and stock recovery (whatever it takes to flash the OTA update) then you can get to the MDL stock rom with MDL modem/firmware. From what I have read most have to Odin back to stock but a few have said with stock recovery and no app changes the OTA flashed successfully. Personally I would just use Odin, take the update, root/custom recovery, and be done with it. Your choice.
**EDIT....can now flash the modems separately without having to use the OTA procedure: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338919
I am kind of in the same boat. I have stock rom but I rooted it and installed custom recovery. I can't seem to find any of the flashable modded OTA updates. Can some one point me to them?
mmfxda said:
I am kind of in the same boat. I have stock rom but I rooted it and installed custom recovery. I can't seem to find any of the flashable modded OTA updates. Can some one point me to them?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256950
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41192248
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[Q] Stock rooted

Motorola device manager says that there are updates available for my razr m. I'm wary to update "OTA" because I dont want to loose root/bootloader.
I'm pretty happy with the stock ROM (still called motoblur?) Is there a stock rooted rom with all the radio updates and security stuff thats the latest version?
The only other android phone I had was a sprint HTC EVO. That phone it seemed would always have a stock rooted ROM based on the newest updates. Is that the case with the RAZR M?
Thanks for the help and any info that can be provided guys.
Love this phone =)
Franteeko said:
Motorola device manager says that there are updates available for my razr m. I'm wary to update "OTA" because I dont want to loose root/bootloader.
I'm pretty happy with the stock ROM (still called motoblur?) Is there a stock rooted rom with all the radio updates and security stuff thats the latest version?
The only other android phone I had was a sprint HTC EVO. That phone it seemed would always have a stock rooted ROM based on the newest updates. Is that the case with the RAZR M?
Thanks for the help and any info that can be provided guys.
Love this phone =)
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Follow my routine here better then stock like a russian/ Australia ota
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2246081
I don't really want anything but stock rooted latest update ROM. Am I safe to just take the OTA?
I am rooted with unlocked BL.
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Franteeko said:
I don't really want anything but stock rooted latest update ROM. Am I safe to just take the OTA?
I am rooted with unlocked BL.
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Yes
Do it from stock recovery.
See my xperia launcher page for steps in the rom mgr link
Franteeko said:
I don't really want anything but stock rooted latest update ROM. Am I safe to just take the OTA?
I am rooted with unlocked BL.
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Yeah, take the update, you'll probably need stock recovery to do it, and then re-root or you can just flash one of these: http://batakang.com/ftp/?dir=devs/mhous33/XT907 . The first zip can be flashed in recovery and the other is for RSD. You'll need to root these too, but that's easy enough if you're unlocked.
Okay I have safe strap recovery 4.33 or something like that. Where can I download the stock recovery?
I seem to remember clockwork was able to hot swap recoveries. Would that be a good method for swapping to stock then back to safe strap?
Also, do I just download the OTA in zip form? If so, where can I find it at?
Sorry for all the questions and thanks to everyone helping me with this.
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Franteeko said:
Okay I have safe strap recovery 4.33 or something like that. Where can I download the stock recovery?
I seem to remember clockwork was able to hot swap recoveries. Would that be a good method for swapping to stock then back to safe strap?
Also, do I just download the OTA in zip form? If so, where can I find it at?
Sorry for all the questions and thanks to everyone helping me with this.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327340
Attached has recovery & see rom Mgr link for ota steps
Okay I have the stock recovery downloaded. What is the best way to flash it? Can I flash stock recovery from within TWRP?
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Okay I have the stock recovery downloaded. What is the best way to flash it? Can I flash stock recovery from within TWRP?
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Yes.
For the life of me I can't figure out how to do that. I've nosed around everywhere in safestrap and can't find where to go to flash stock recovery. You have been a lot of help already man thank you.
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Could you just fast boot it... fastboot flash recovery "filename"... like you would twrp.... I really have no idea...
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Thank you I'll try that.
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Yeah, I haven't found a stock recovery.img that's flashable. Just flash the stock recovery.img in fastboot, exactly the same way you loaded up TWRP.
I took the ota with twrp installed and unlocked BL. It flashed and at the end twrp asked if I wanted to fix root, I selected yes and kept root. I was wary in doing it by reading the forums, afraid I was going to lose root, but it stayed. I'm now using stock ROM with arrrgh kernel and seeder. Its running extremely smooth.
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RikRong said:
Yeah, I haven't found a stock recovery.img that's flashable. Just flash the stock recovery.img in fastboot, exactly the same way you loaded up TWRP.
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As posted previously.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327340
aviwdoowks said:
As posted previously.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327340
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I don't see a stock recovery in there.
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RikRong said:
I don't see a stock recovery in there.
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I was cleaning up & deleted it. Fixed.
Where can I find arrggh kernal and seeder?
Okay so because of a previous response on this thread, I took the OTA. I had TWRP, root, and unlocked BL.
After the update, TWRP appears to be gone along with safestrap. I think my bootloader is still unlocked but I'm not sure how to tell.
Can someone please tell me how to get root back and how to get my customer recovery back? I am having such a hard time with this phone getting it to work properly. I remember with my EVO I had it down to a science but I've forgotten a lot of steps and many things have changed since then.
I need like a noob guide I think lol.
To reiterate, got latest OTA. My bootloader is still unlocked as far as I know. Need root and custom recovery back. Thanks XDA.
Next is flashing the arggh kernal and seeder I guess. First things first though.
Should have used voodoo. Now just fastboot cwmr img & flash UPDATESU both on my goodies page. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327340
You can extract the img out of the zip.

Installing ROMS

Hello everyone, my question is hopefully simple. I'm rooted and safestrapped. I would like to know if I take OTAs in the future that break my root will safestrap still be there? Like for example, can I run a nonrooted stock ROM with safestrap installed or will safestrap get uninstalled if I take an OTA Update?
Hopefully my questions made sense. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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QbanXpress said:
Hello everyone, my question is hopefully simple. I'm rooted and safestrapped. I would like to know if I take OTAs in the future that break my root will safestrap still be there? Like for example, can I run a nonrooted stock ROM with safestrap installed or will safestrap get uninstalled if I take an OTA Update?
Hopefully my questions made sense. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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You shouldn't be able to even accept an OTA if you're rooted, it won't let you go through with it. You should never accept an OTA regardless, and rather wait until someone packages the update up within a ROM so you can still get the benefits
I wasn't aware that being routed would not allow me to accept an OTA. Are you site this happens when the stock ROM is installed? Or, are you talking about if I have a prerooted ROM installed?
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QbanXpress said:
I wasn't aware that being routed would not allow me to accept an OTA. Are you site this happens when the stock ROM is installed? Or, are you talking about if I have a prerooted ROM installed?
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Good question, it's been a long long time on a previous device since I accepted an OTA :laugh:
Someone always packages it up as a flashable for us, just like the MJ7 Note 3 update....it's up the same week
OK then what I will be doing tonight is flashing the rooted stock ROM. This way I don't have to do worry about any OTA updates. I will be flashing in safestrap over the stock slot. No need to create a second ROM slot for the same ROM just rooted.
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