Installing ROMS - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everyone, my question is hopefully simple. I'm rooted and safestrapped. I would like to know if I take OTAs in the future that break my root will safestrap still be there? Like for example, can I run a nonrooted stock ROM with safestrap installed or will safestrap get uninstalled if I take an OTA Update?
Hopefully my questions made sense. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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QbanXpress said:
Hello everyone, my question is hopefully simple. I'm rooted and safestrapped. I would like to know if I take OTAs in the future that break my root will safestrap still be there? Like for example, can I run a nonrooted stock ROM with safestrap installed or will safestrap get uninstalled if I take an OTA Update?
Hopefully my questions made sense. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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You shouldn't be able to even accept an OTA if you're rooted, it won't let you go through with it. You should never accept an OTA regardless, and rather wait until someone packages the update up within a ROM so you can still get the benefits

I wasn't aware that being routed would not allow me to accept an OTA. Are you site this happens when the stock ROM is installed? Or, are you talking about if I have a prerooted ROM installed?
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QbanXpress said:
I wasn't aware that being routed would not allow me to accept an OTA. Are you site this happens when the stock ROM is installed? Or, are you talking about if I have a prerooted ROM installed?
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Good question, it's been a long long time on a previous device since I accepted an OTA :laugh:
Someone always packages it up as a flashable for us, just like the MJ7 Note 3 update....it's up the same week

OK then what I will be doing tonight is flashing the rooted stock ROM. This way I don't have to do worry about any OTA updates. I will be flashing in safestrap over the stock slot. No need to create a second ROM slot for the same ROM just rooted.
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[Q] Noob Q about OTA's.

So as I've gathered I can't update OTA when one is available if I have a custom recovery (CWM, TWRP). My question however is if I will be able to apply the update using my custom recovery, and if so, will I retain root and all my frozen bloat from TiBa? Thanks.
If you're talking about stock ota, then no if you have a custom recovery
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blyndfyre said:
So as I've gathered I can't update OTA when one is available if I have a custom recovery (CWM, TWRP). My question however is if I will be able to apply the update using my custom recovery, and if so, will I retain root and all my frozen bloat from TiBa? Thanks.
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Will get custom updates that you can flash through recovery long before the carrier releases the same update..
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rcklss1 said:
Will get custom updates that you can flash through recovery long before the carrier releases the same update..
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You are referring to custom ROM's correct? I was hoping to remain stock and root and still be able to apply updates.
Maybe I should be the bullet and flash a custom ROM that still incorporates TW (want the gestures).
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blyndfyre said:
You are referring to custom ROM's correct? I was hoping to remain stock and root and still be able to apply updates.
Maybe I should be the bullet and flash a custom ROM that still incorporates TW (want the gestures).
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thats what i am doing.

Nexus 4

Hello, I have the Nexus 4 I am running 4.2.2 and I'm rooted I was going to update the other day to 4.3 but it didn't work. Could this be due to a custom recovery? I am on stock android and i was unrooted at the time.
I was also wondering if there are any good root methods out there I have heard a lot of problems with rooting on 4.3?
Just would like some opinions?
Thanks guys
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Freakyy6 said:
Hello, I have the Nexus 4 I am running 4.2.2 and I'm rooted I was going to update the other day to 4.3 but it didn't work. Cos this be due to a custom recovery? I am on stock android and i was unrooted at the time.
I was also wondering if there are any good root methods out there I have heard a lot of problems with rooting on 4.3?
Just would like some opinions?
Thanks guys
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There's not really any problems just gotta make sure you're following instructions properly. All you need to do is obviously just unlock your device, then push recovery to it then flash root. Obviously the are more in the between steps.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
There's not really any problems just gotta make sure you're following instructions properly. All you need to do is obviously just unlock your device, then push recovery to it then flash root. Obviously the are more in the between steps.
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do you have any idea why it wouldn't update over air? I was unrooted but did have CWM recovery. would that be the reason?
and ok thats good to know thanks and thanks for the video reference.

Mdl vs. Mf3???

Hey guys i just got my s4 yesterday and am wondering what the difference between the 2 firmwares is. Is one better then the other? My phone downloaded an update last nite but I havent installed it yet. Was going to root this afternoon.
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MF3 locks the boot loader, so if you want to flash ROMS, don't update. It also has some software tweaks and adds Knox and the ability to easily store apps on SD card. There is a root, but not a boot loader unlock, yet.
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Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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gho5t82 said:
Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Do yourself a favor and search and read through the first page or so of the general and Q&A sub forums. The information you need is there, especially the "pinned" threads in the general section. Read the "software update" thread and the "new root method for MF3" thread also. Good luck.
Will do scott thanks! Im coming from an iphone and forgot how big the android world is! Had an inspire 4g prior to my 4s
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gho5t82 said:
Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Some say it has auto installed
It will auto install. You should root and put a custom Rom on asap. Check your firmware first though, if it's already installed you can brick your phone trying to root the way you would with mdl. If it's mf3 you've got the update and you'll have to use a different method.
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I had Knox on MDL, not sure what your talking about.
Mf3 locks the boot loader but fixes bugs and make the camera take sharper pictures. Plus better cell signal.
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I got lucky. It tried to auto instal so i yanked the battery and quickly rooted and threw a custom rom on it.
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Root without custom padlock

Hey guys. I know 3 different methods of rooting i9505(motochoper, cf auto root and pre-rooted roms). But apparently all of them makes your phone turns to a custom status and showing a custom padlock on boot. Does anyone knows a root method that keeps the phone official? Cause I remember that on my old galaxy s2, I rooted my phone using a very simple method, flashing a temporary cwm from external SD card and flashing a busy box that gived me root. Anyone knows if is it possible on s4? Thanks guys
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renanrolim said:
Hey guys. I know 3 different methods of rooting i9505(motochoper, cf auto root and pre-rooted roms). But apparently all of them makes your phone turns to a custom status and showing a custom padlock on boot. Does anyone knows a root method that keeps the phone official? Cause I remember that on my old galaxy s2, I rooted my phone using a very simple method, flashing a temporary cwm from external SD card and flashing a busy box that gived me root. Anyone knows if is it possible on s4? Thanks guys
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Hi,
Using these Pre-rooted ROMS , it keeps the phone "Official" as long as you do not install anything custom.
malybru said:
Hi,
Using these Pre-rooted ROMS , it keeps the phone "Official" as long as you do not install anything custom.
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Thanks a lot. Do you know if using those pre rooted roms OTA updates still works? And if it is, update will unroot the device? Again, thank you so much
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renanrolim said:
Thanks a lot. Do you know if using those pre rooted roms OTA updates still works? And if it is, update will unroot the device? Again, thank you so much
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Hi,
Yes, you can still get OTA.
But I am not sure why you would do that when the [OP] will keep the ROMS up-to-date anyway.
And yes , you would lose root if you updated.

About to buy (another) S4 tonight, please help!

Hey guys, well I'm back in action! After dumping my S4 a few months ago, I am getting another one tonight. Ever since I saw the 4.3 update on my gf's S4, I saw that things have smoothed out and things are the way they should be!
Long story short, I want to see if the one I'm getting can be rooted. It is on 4.2.2 and the baseband is I3373CUFCMF3. Am I good to root it? I've been out of the S4 game for a while, so I don't know. If I can root it, can I run 4.3?
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
I'd try to get a MDL one so you could just flash a 4.3 custom ron
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Most, if not all current S4's will have MF3 firmware preinstalled. I doubt any store would have MDL firmware. Those devices would have had to be sitting there since early summer.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, well I'm back in action! After dumping my S4 a few months ago, I am getting another one tonight. Ever since I saw the 4.3 update on my gf's S4, I saw that things have smoothed out and things are the way they should be!
Long story short, I want to see if the one I'm getting can be rooted. It is on 4.2.2 and the baseband is I3373CUFCMF3. Am I good to root it? I've been out of the S4 game for a while, so I don't know. If I can root it, can I run 4.3?
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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Yes, with MF3 you can root. You can then install safestrap and do some roms.
However if you take the 4.3 update you lose the ability to safestrap and use some roms, but you should still be able to root. I am not 100% as I just kept mf3 and put a 4.2.2 rom on it.
Ok, thanks for the responses. Can I flash any ROM with Safestrap or just some? Can I flash a custom 4.3 ROM for example?
Thanks!
You cannot install anything that's not touchwiz and anything above 4.2.2
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Ok, thanks for the responses. Can I flash any ROM with Safestrap or just some? Can I flash a custom 4.3 ROM for example?
Thanks!
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Your very limited with roms using safestrap. Even then, the ones that work, might not work all the way. If you had MDL, you could use any rom if you flash loki-doki.
Just ask if they have one with MDL firmware. Doesn't hurt to ask, right?
Thanks for the responses guys! I will see if I can get a hold of a MDL phone.
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Quick question. If I'm on MF3, can I jtag back to MDL?
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Quick question. If I'm on MF3, can I jtag back to MDL?
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No.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Quick question. If I'm on MF3, can I jtag back to MDL?
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Get a device that isn't as locked down as the s4 or note 3. Maybe nexus 5? Unless you can live with safestrap or just root. Which I can. If your a ROM flashaholic than stay away.
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Thanks guys, I just scored a MDL on swappa. I will be back soon to root and rom!
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Nice!
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